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I can get the PGA tournament on. They're still playing, uh in Rochester, New York Press and Shamble still has a one stroke lead over the field. A Scottie Cheffler stroke behind Adam Scott. It looks like he's still playing.
He's a stroke back. Keegan Bradley's up there, and I don't know where my guy Xander Shotly is. Anyways, it looks like some big news has come out of California um gatee Feldman UH posting that the National Labor Relations Board Region in California has issued a formal complaint against USC, the PAC twelve, and the NC double A. The complaint alleges that the college that college athletes quote have been and are employees within the meaning of what the NLRB calls
employees. So they've been misclassified as non employee student athletes, says the Again, this is against USC, but it's also then the pactwov ncuble A says that the three have been interfering with restraining and coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in the National Labor Relations Act, and that USC must file an answer to the complaint by June one. Let's basically, it's one more
thing. The complaint seeks in order requiring USC at alban In, PACTOV and NABA to cease and desist from misclassifying the athletes as non employee student athletes and to reclassify them as employees of the universes. That sounds like a big deal. I you know, one of the queen things I wanted to ask Dave now that you say that is the thing that when we talked about yesterday was the geist comment about it doesn't it's a football and basketball When you have him,
guys like him, who are you know? Father could have some more? What's the little Oliver could have some more? Give me some more? Yeah, we'll see we'll see. Okay, but this sounds like a big deal because that's that's one thing that that people have been going back and forth on is that, you know, should should the NC double A just say
okay, you guys are athletes. But I think one of the other things has been that I don't think that that they want to be stupid, that they want to be athletes because they're gonna say, okay, well you're gonna get paid X. But what about the quarterback who can make six figures right right? That's you know, the universe first Sea's not going to pay him that. No, they can't. They've already paid them or they're paying them six thousand dollars or five for whatever it is, yeah a year, uh
year. And then maybe it's something that's says, okay, your your classifying them as as as employees and therefore and now what there's what's been their scholarship money is going to get taxed. I mean, it's interesting interesting to see who's who's going to benefit from this, if anybody, right, I don't know, and I don't know if when we have when we get Johnna, well ron, if you'll have some some in some insight, to this, UH, you know, because he's obviously been keeping keeping taps on the on
the uh UM pack twelve deals. All right, UM Pima Pema baseball. In the first round of their uh their district tournament, they had a seven to two lead going to the ninth inning against UH. No, did he go under the eighth inning against UM? What's the name of the team that they're playing? I forget anyway, UM, the game got tied in the eighth UH the Nebraska team, UM, I think it the Nebraska team took the lead in the top of the nine, Pema tied it. Now they're
going they're in the tenth inning, so they did. They scored a run in the bottom of the ninth UH to tie the game. So they're still they're still in it. But you know, they had a seven to lead. He can't blow a lead like that. No, So that's a that's a tough goal. UM. Kind of a little a little bit of news.
Mitch Dubisky, who was beat up all that time in uh UH in Chicago, he's gotten a two year extension on his deal with the Steelers, so he's he's he'll have he's not he'll not be under contract for three years with the Steelers. Again, another one of those guys just good enough to you know, keep getting a job, keep hanging around, keep um uh you know, keep burning a paycheck. Good for him because you know you never knew, uh what what he he was gonna. How long do you
look around in the league? Do you speak about a quarterback down? It reminds me of of Nick Foles who got released a while back. Do you think he mentally he's done? I think so. He nixt got some miles too. He's in his thirties and who's gonna who's gonna pay a back up? Back up? Right? He's been making but he's been making exactly exactly. I mean, he's look, he's made a lot of money. He'll
be fine, he'll uh, you know, he'll go the one. Maybe he'll come and be on our show now because we could never get him on her show when he was playing somebody, somebody out to reach out to him and Tom go on this guy's show. These guys are good. Um. We've mentioned the women's golf team starts the NC doable as tomorrow. They are in Scottsdale, so sort of not a home court, but sort of you know, they don't have to travel far of course that they've played, you
know before. Ye, so they're uh, they've got their turn their national tournament. One of thirty teams in the tournament. I think they've mentioned starting tomorrow up in Scottsdale. Good for them. You see, an eighteen year old hacked into a into a fantasy camp with you know, a sports book and is now being charged pretty heavily. WHOA, I don't know which one
it is. It doesn't say which one it is. Uh, he cyber attacked on a fantasy sports and bedding site this past fall that impacted approximately sixty thousand accounts. We might want to check our accounts. I do check my account. I know exactly how much, and it's not very much. The indictment did not identify the betting site, but DraftKings later released a statement saying
it worked with law enforcement in the investigation. Okay, okay, so we'll see more about Well, did you say that somebody hacked into the scoreboard at the Rangers stadium, the big baseball the big one. Yeah, the big
screen videos. They were just putting stuff, They putting logos, they put they put the devil or the Ray logos and you're putting pictures and I don't know, I just saw a couple of a couple of screenshots of it, but it was clearly what was on the scoreboard clearly was not what was supposed to be there. Oh okay, And so you saw one of them. I think it was a Diamondbacks yestory one of the pictures or they were playing catch in the back and the oh he had a bird. The bird again.
Yeah, the Randy Johnson was the funny thing. Somebody tweeted out if he had a nickel for every time a Diamondbacks pitchers as he had a bird, you'd have two nickels. But they came, they came hit those rings zone well, and it was their best pictures. That Gallant, who happens to be one of my fantasy pictures. Oh yeah, this one was different from the one ring Randy Johnson was throwing a pitch, but it was that Gallant was just playing catch out of the outfield. Was somebody I saw the
video the bird flu into it was the funny thing. You gotta have your head on a swivel. The funny thing about it. We live in the day and age you're gonna get filmed no matter what. Two dudes playing catch, right, two dudes playing catch and oh, oh, by the way, he hit a bird. Ye come yeah, somebody in the seats was out there shooting video because they were close enough too, and then boom, you're out on social media. They can they can see. I don't know
if I didn't see if did he kill the bird? I think so? I think yeah. I think the guy just looked at the bird on the floor and said, you know, bumber, you better pick a better flight, pat your hit on a swivel. Man, you gotta have your hit on a swivel or fly higher or well yeah, I mean, what's it? Yeah, there's that too. I mean you just gotta you gotta know you're surrounding. Did you see it? So? So I was out last I watching the game, and the heat is the heat right there, they're
gonna they're they're very good. Two three stars and seven undrafted, seven undrafted players, and that play, yeah, yeah, that play tells you how good you have to be or not be, whatever where you want to go with this. Um, you don't have to be drafted as long as you can play. As long as you can play. I mean again, you know, we saw a Lonzo Treer hang around for a little bit. Gabe York is still hanging around. Um, you know some guys like that.
I mean, yeah, you know, Arizona has had some top draft picks, but you know how long is Solomon Hill? In fact, in fact, there was a there was a tweet a couple days ago. Uh. You know one of our things that we quote about college of NBA, the most active college players from the school, Kentucky had like twenty seven. Arizona was tied for second with twelve. Yeah, and I don't even know if
that's true. I don't know if that's true unless they they're talking maybe the G League or whatever league that is now in G League, because there aren't twelve. I don't think can you go twelve from Sean's time. There's only a couple from from I couldn't think of them. No, Matherin, you have Gordon now, um t j uh tj Lowry marking in h Um. I mean, let's count them just because Okay, okay, now, okay, here we go. How are you go after that? Oh? Deandredre
we Ford about him? Seven? He was only No. One seven. That's about seven that I can. I am sure we were missing some, but they had twelve. I'm thinking twelve really? Oh oh, Andrea Guardal he's retired, Yeah, he's but he was on the list of last of the Yeah, what's you're Let me ask you this, and you may have a different one than me, uh, because I covered him. I covered Andre for forever. Uh in the two years. What's your lasting memory of
Andre when he played here? Being on the phone in the funnel? Exactly my same one, exactly, my same one. They lost the tournament, and then they go back to in the tournament and they lose the seating hall. That's my lasting memory of And then after the fact they came back from that, they came back from that event of the tournaments in seating Hall. I think it was in a in a dwagle of a game, and he had yet to determine whether he was gonna go or announced that he was gonna
go to the NBA. So they had lane for the game at the time. He's played in that and we as reporters have to go, you know, follow that game. So he played in it. I was chasing him down to say, could you tell us if you're gonna leave or no, he ran away and he chay ran away. I couldn't get him on the
record or anything like that. Eventually went into a restroom and in look at the girl like the women's locker room, and he waited for me to to leave so he wouldn't have to answer the question, I don't you know? Look on you know Andreadala had a great career and Arizona claimed him as being an Arizona guy in the NBA YadA YadA, YadA one. I never saw him as an Arizona guy similar to DeAndre Ayton and something. The first round
you know he was. He was here for one thing, um, and then the sting on the phone right before an NC Double A tournament game, Um, all that stuff he left me with a bad taste about him as an Arizona guy. Smart dude, a great career. But that's I wanted to ask you and see if you remember that, and you and you did obviously yeah with the phone, No, I absolutely did. And then that
that bothered me again. It gets to it gets to the thing of why are you here right If you're gonna and I get the one and done thing, but if you're gonna go to school at least give it all you have for a year, right and for more than moving up, you know, improving your drafts. One of the things that I saw on Facebook because of
the n IL deal and who's gonna pay for that? And we kind of talk about the Arizonassists program and after being part of it, you know, Joe Schmoe or meet you whatever, and they're saying, well, what about all the guys that came through here and made a lot of money. How come they're not helping? Or are they? Or are they helping? They're they're mostly not They're not, of course not right. You know, guys
like Richard Jeffersoniel built the gym curse putting some money. I think Mike Bibbies put into a little bit of money, you know, but they that all
the way back to twenty years ago. You know, that was a question that I had said, why aren't these guys who were making millions and millions and millions of dollars and who got there because of a where where are they when it comes I'm wondering, I'm wondering if the reason is one of the reasons is Sean who was not one of those guys that about him in you know what I'm saying, he's not the jet guy, right, It was not a there was a little disconnect, you know that. I'm wondering if
that's part of it. Did they let they let me out high and dry? And yeah, I don't know. I've always wondered that why they're you know some of the some of those athletes haven't been you know, bigger donors over time, Uh, like the Jim Furi in golf or one, right, yeah, and and some you know, and some of those I think Furich has done some stuff for golf. Yeah, but like you know, what's Gronk done? I don't know, right, Yeah, I don't know. You know what is his neck foles done? H he probably he might
has. Yeah, Yeah, we'd have to ask and could they tell what if Gilbert Arenas? Yeah? Right, probably not much? Right, gives them grief about that? Yeah, you know, so you wonder when you know they're when we're getting pinched for you know, one hundred bucks a month or whatever that they want. Yeah, so no, absolutely, Okay, all right, um, let's go take our breakwhere to have John Wilner on the show here just a second. We'll get into all the pac twelve stuff.
Um, he again always follows it closer we go to him. We thought all this was going to be done by now, and it's not. Dylan Terry Coloco. That's maybe nine. Yeah, maybe that number is okay.
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twelve goes or turns? What episode are we in now? I mean it feels like we're in kind of a rerun situation waiting, you know, for this be if you ab to get done and I'm I'm guessing that and it's just a guest that you know, buy maybe the second half of June seems like an interesting time for them to get it done to me, just because of that, June's aren't even deadline for it's looming out there for San Diego State, But we'll see. Will you say at this point that San Diego
State is a is a done deal or not? No, I wouldn't say then deal, but it sure seems pretty pretty likely. I mean, you can't you can't ever underestimate the patwal president's ability to do something they probably shouldn't. But uh, I do I think that they're going to invite Saego State? How can you not? Right? I mean, they just went to
the National Chimpership Game. In addition to all the things that they have going for them and have had going for them since the last summer, they just went to the National Chimpionship Game. And you're gonna say, I, no, thanks, You know, I didn't know if that doesn't make sense to me? Right? Right? So? So what, okay, tell me what we're waiting on. Because you've you've talked before, you know, last time you're on the show, you talk about they're trying to land three planes
at the same time. Right, the granted rights, the TV deal and the expansion. I mean, what had those planes just been in a holding pattern since then or what? Well? I think the media lites, the media lites has got to be done first, and then you go to the president and you're saying, here's the deal on the on the table, are you willing to sign you your money over to the converence and then wants to
do that comes expansion. I think that it's not going to be the three planes landing at the same time, but it's going to probably be like one after another. It's very rapid fire succession probably how it's going to go. And obviously the hold up has been a media lites deal. If they had a great deal, they would have already taken it. But just because they don't have a great deal doesn't mean they have it. Don't have a deal
that is going to be satisfactory it shot. It seems like economic conditions have played a role in the delay, based on what Washington States President said. I don't know that that's the only reason. My guess is it's not the only reason, but that can't need to cut of it. I think so having covered this for since you or twelve, it seems like because it's lasted that long, is there realistically a chance or good chance they get they will get a good media deal and I mean good as in, you know,
worthwhile, because we've talked about this for like almost a year now. Well, it kind of depends on what do you mean by good exactly exactly what components are there right now? There's a lot of emphasis on the funny, and obviously that's a huge piece of it, and there's a lot of emphasis on the visibility, the access. What networks are they going to be on? Are the premium football games gonna be on line or television, you know, broadcast or cave or the big game is going to be on streaming.
That's a big part of it. I think that one piece that's been overlooked a little bit is the logistics of the selection points. Right Fans they're very frustrated with that six day selection window and with all the night games, and so those are pieces that are they're trying to deal with as well. And the presidents here from their constituents, I don't like being I don't like finding out on Sunday what time the game is going to be on the following Saturday.
So there's a whole lot of pieces that they're trying to work out, and you know, not the money is probably the most important, but it's not the only thing to me as a fan is that a TV deal for the PAC twelve has to be kind of centered on ESPN. And I don't know what the possibility is of that. Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure ESPN is going to have a big part of it. I would be I would be shocked if there is not a package of games on ESPN.
And how much right now ESPN has I think it's twenty two out of basically eighty games. Twenty two on ESPN, there's twenty two on Fox. The forty fifth is alternated as the championship game. It alternates between the two. There's another thirty five. They're on the patrol of networks, so you wouldn't say they expand and add two teams, so they have basically the same number
of home games eighty. Is ESPN gonna have twenty two out of the eighty Nope, it's probably gonna be somewhere around there, and I have to think it's going to be some of the biggest games too. That's you know, part of it is figuring out the tiers and the packages and make you chart that each network partner hears what they want at the right price. But I would be shocked if ESPN doesn't have you know, I don't know, Jackie
how much it'll be, but you know, something like that. So you've been covering this a long time and I'm gonna kind of go with this as a media guy. Now you've been covering this from probably day one. We see other reports from all over the country from other guys that we know and that you know, well how many and reports are varying, right, some
denies, yes, maybe maybe deny this guy has it wrong. Um, when you talk to these guys, can you sense that they're telling you the truth for what they know today or just don't have any idea refruiting other stories. It's just so convoluted to me. Well, it's convoluted partly because there's very few people who actually know the details, right, I mean, the
athletic directors don't even know all the details. This is being handled by the commissioner as consultants the negotiators for the networks, and they're briefing the presidents, but I don't get the sense of the persons know every detail as they come up here, you know, on a week to week basis. The athlatic directors are even more detached. So and meanwhile, the college football media nationally is heres to getting its information from the coaches and athletic directors and they don't
really know what's going on here. So that's part of the reason that there's a lot of speculation and a lot of it is unfounded. You also have the Big ten, a Big twelve, you know, which is trying to destabilize the PAC twelve using its media consultant group endeavor to do that. And that's something that we've never really seen before in realignment, which is one conference trying to destabilize a number like this, uh in a real concerted effort.
The PAC twelve has put itself in this position because it has taken so long, because it's taken most of you now, so it's vulnerable to having something like this happen. H So you know, that's to me, that's kind of why the whole national narrative is playing out in a very uneven way where you don't know what's truth and which fiction. Very few people know what's going
on. You have a party that's trying to deep stabilize, and you have this incredible one way of time that it's taken to get a deal done. You mentioned a minute ago that the Commissioner George Kliavkoff and his consultants, how is this getting done at the PAC twelve level? You know, I mean, what's the what's their problem? Mean, who's sitting at the table and who's doing the day to day work on getting this on getting this deal worked? One? I mean it's the two of them, I think Clikoff and
you know he's got Doug Perlman who runs Sports Media Advisors. He may heard a couple of Lucanson's working for him. I know Jamie Zaninovich, the deputy who was the Deputy Commissioner until about a month ago as a full time He is now working for a consulting agency, but he is advising the PACK twelve. He started a degree. Uh and I know that you know the PAC twelf has got the way they weren't chart to set up. There's an Executive
Committee of the Presidents. It's three presidents on a rotating basis, and right now at Stanford, Washington, Worshton State, they are I think, pretty clued in as to what's going on, and then they are disseminating information among the other presidents. But it's really a very small group of people, which is why there have been no leaks of real information. Uh, they've been very impressive and avoiding leaks, but in the vacuuming all this rumor and speculation.
All right, so you said a minute ago, because of this this deadline with with San Diego stating to explain to listeners, State doesn't once we get passed through thirty at the end of the fiscal years year as soon as the student notifies the Mountain West that they're leaving in the twenty twenty four fiscal year. If they notify them within that year, they have to pay more
of the penalty. I think the penalty like doubles. You know, it goes up from like fifteen or eighteen million up into I think the high twenties or thirty millions. If San Diego State unifies the Mountain West after June thirtieth, I don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, right basically what we're looking at, and it could that exit fee could be negotiated down. I don't think Santego State worst. They in a position one it's
got to do that. I think the state warrants this done by June thirtieth. I guess is that it will be done by June thirtieth. In some fashion. We may not know that it's done, but I think it's some level it's probably going to get done by the end of this fiscal year. Okay, let's assume the San Diego State is in the PAC twelve. Maybe there's maybe there's a twelve team. Based on based on what you know, I think we ask you this every time, based on what you know today,
What can you predict? What predict what you think is gonna where we're gonna end up. Well, I think they're gonna end up with a deal. I think they're gonna end up adding. I mean, if I were if I were betting, I don't think any of this is guaranteed. But if I were betting, I bet that they were. Uh, and you know me, I was better too. Cocklais line. So Stantego State were added. They sign a media deal that is probably linear, which means pecaster
cable and sixty percent streaming. I don't know who the stream is gonna be, Amazon, Apple, somebody else writing. I mean that Pocock, the NBC streaming service, got an NFL playoff game extrusively, I kind of raised an eyebrow for me. Um. And then the money is going to be somewhere near where the State twelve is probably within ten percent in a way. So twenty eight million per school up to thirty four million per schools that range
into something that's that would be my guest. You know, I really don't know. Yeah, no, wait, well we don't, but um, you know, we can guess. I mean, we thought we knew who was going to win the Kentucky Derby, and our horses came in last, so you know, you just don't know what's going to happen well as I would have expected, but we like you. We've been on weener dogs at halftime of Arizona basketball game. So there's that and kids bowling. I think
you were there for that. Maybe not anyway, so okay, well you know again, it's just I know that you know, we can. We're continuing to speculate, and every time we get you on the phone, we're speculating some more. But uh, I mean, it's is there anything that you feel is pretty certain that I mean, are you certain that the PAC twelve is going to stay together? Let me put it that, Let me
ask you that. No, I'm not. I haven't been certain now all along, and I think the odds of that stay together are lower than they were, you know, three months ago or six months ago. You know, the longer this takes, the more chane that there's going to be some kind of unknown factor that comes in and disrupts. I've got the survival as like a four point favorite over extinction. It was as high as five and
a half, five and a half fourt favorite. It dropped down to, uh, you know, I'm just kind of doing this because I think it helps fans get an they can envision what the situation is better by using their points. But so dropped down to like three and a half at the end
of Mars, and it's up to four now. And a big part of that is because two of the persons, Arizona's president in Colorado's chancellor have both said they're willing to be patient and wait for this thing to play out, and as long as the persons still mechanic, I think the conference has got a better chance to stay together. So we'll see. But I definitely do
not think it's guaranteed. I never have thought that. I think it's more likely that it will stay together, but it is not guaranteed until they signed that. Garana wrights are so so John, You've been covering a lot of different stories throughout your career coaching searches. In addition to this, Where does this rank? This story, this entire story rank and all the I don't
know if I want. I don't want to say fun because it's not fun, but just kind of like a just tedious, just the research and just waiting for calls and things like that. Where does this rank among them? If I were gonna, well, if I were going to rank like the top ten stories, this would be one through ten. It is. The stakes are very high. I mean talking about a hundred sub mural conference that has been the basting of college sports on the West Coast and it's fighting for
survival after the usc UCLA decision. Uh, you know, there's a lot at stake for a lot of athletes and a lot of sports. There was a lot of stake for fans of those schools and a one nine of those schools. Uh, this is you know, by far, I think that, you know, the most significant story I've covered for sure, Uh most tdous as well. I never expected back in July that it was going to
still be going here right as we almost are in Susent right. Well, I lost a bet to Steve that this thing would get done by August. By the by the end of August of last year, that was a bad beat at the time. I did say it at the time because they were locked in a ninety day window with ESPN Fox, and Fox wasn't going to give them a decent bid, So there was almost no chance that they were going to get this on the those coast ninety days. Every war is one
before it actually fought. All right, Okay, I'm real quick. I want to get your reaction to two words, Dion Sanders. I mean, he's he's making five or six million a year, He's already basically earned his first year salary, and they hadn't even coach the game. Just you know, forget about whether they go seven and five or four and eight or whatever. All of the attention he has brought to the University of Colorado, not just the football program, but the school itself, has been an incredible amount
of marketing, uh for the university's brands. And that's that's what a you know, a high profile football coach could. We could finally do a lot for the USC. Deon's doing even more for Colorado just because Colorado was starting at a low level. But regardless of whether they get to a bowl game this first year, he has done everything they could possibly earn, sort of wasting the program's profile. All right, there you go. Thanks John, Hey, John, thanks a bunch. Appreciate it as always. Well,
you know, I hope you get a vacation. This is all done. Yeah, I've got my vacation scheduled and I guarantee that's when they're going to announce be of course, of course. Okay, John, Thanks thanks much. Man. That's how it goes. That's how it work. I take a shower real quick. Oh the call just game, That's exactly how it works. All right, let's take our last break. We're gonna come back.
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I on Volcano Box Ports sporteen fifty. I'm Steve Vera Jakinsass So we have about thirteen minutes for you guys to call five too. Oh or seventy four forty you'd love to hear from you. I got little breaking news, good breaking news. Baseball blue seven to two league got into extra innings. Uh, Andrew Stucky catcher out of cdo. It's a walk off home run in the bottom of the tenth inning to beat McCook Community College in the first round
of the Double Ellina, the double Elimination District Tournament. It's a four team tournament in Nebraska to get to the College World's Junior College World Series. So they're in the winner in the winner's bracket with a win one, nine to eighty. And this is just for the West, right, this is the West District. So um there eight district champions go to the Junior College World Series. But you know, winning that first game in a double the Nation
tournament is a big deal. Yeah, they almost, they almost. I mean they were gagging it all over the place. I don't know what ken Hakami was doing with his with his hair or if he's got any left. But pima wins um means that they don't have to play a double head or tomorrow unless uh they lose. Wow, if they lose, but they're they're in the winner's bracket it right now, so they play it at three o'clock I think Central time. Uh, they're in Nebraska tomorrow again. They will
play the winner of Southeast Community College in Salt Lake Community College. If they win that, then that they're in the championship on Saturday. So good for them. But Andrew Stuckey Catcher out of cdo we have a caller? Hang on higher on the aar and on the ball. Hey guys, so I couldn't get the phone working yesterday? You throw it in the pool or what did you do? I'm also in mourning, but not just because my father in law died, of course, because of the son's loss. We know
that we were wondering about how we were wondering a bunch. But Denver's gonna win. And I was really gonna hammer Jay, but Miami did be Boston. Thank goodness for Jay's sake because when he made a statement, oh really one of these yeah, either one of those teams can win the East. But there's only one team can win at all, Jay, not any one of the four and women, me and Steve know who's gonna win. It's gonna be It's gonna be Denver, period, all right, okay, And
but I'm gonna go against you, Steve. I'm gonna say Denver's gonna win in five. I know you need six, but I'm gonna say they're gonna win in five. They're that I'm okay, I'm okay with that. But you said you need him to win in six, Well, no, I just gonna win. Well, he's got a separate bet on how many games,
but he's also got Denver winning that. Yea yeah. And I'm gonna go on a real long hiatus because Jay dropped the ball and said only one hundred more days till the first game, because I don't care about football. I'm gonna be I'm gonna I don't want to hear anything for one hundred days. Hey, how or who do you want to be the next coach of the Suns? How? Uh? That young guy, the guy they have in the bench might be okay, you know, other than myself, I
don't know how about Tyler. They're talking Tyler. Now, forget Tyler. He's one and he's under contract for two years. They'd be giving up too much. So let me ask you. There was a good, good voting thing with the radio in Phoenix. Who's going to be there in two years? Will DeAndre be there in two years? Will will Hopkins be there in two years? Oh? Did you hear the guys were saying that, uh
WILLI DeAndre got Williams fired. That's what some people like to say, Oh, there's no Well maybe in the sense that they didn't have a good relationship immediately. I mean, DeAndre is not not going to you know, matt ishbie In saying I need you to fire him, But to say he got in fired in the sense that that relationship was was crap and and that maybe they say, well, we got to make a change. Maybe here DeAndre here, here's what I'm gonna say you guys said, don't Dave Hk was
great saying the child environment, having a family, that's college. If you if you're like if you're like Michael Jordany Doune something in the NBA, then you can have your kid around. He's got a little one and a half, you'll playing around. He hasn't done anything in the NBA. DeAndre, Yeah, Hey, I don't know if you said it a bad word, but we cut you off. I don't think bad word you did. Kind of didn heard it, said darn we're good, all right, that's all
right. We got the dump for three months because I don't want to hear about the football program. You guys take care of right. We had to dump him for a second. We did, we did? Have it worked? Yeah, well you'll have to go in there and chop it up. I don't know. He may not have it sounded like he did. Okay, cool, did you do that? We don't have another call right now? Okay, so we have money minutes you gets still calling. Man.
You know, it's almost like it doesn't even matter who the coach is going to be, right, I don't know if it's gonna be somebody that did you? Did you say the list of guys? Now you look at the list, it's not sexy. It's no, you don't hear you even know who they are. And they had a pretty good one, honestly. You know, they all get recycled and all that. They weren't the guys that
they weren't the names that were used to that's for sure. Hey. In fact, if JB has been interviewed in Milwaukee, why would you be Why wouldn't you just bring him out here to see how you'll do? Right, Honestly, I think maybe the entree plays for him. You know what I'm saying, it's hard for him, you know, Arizona guy. You know, it's all a little something, right, a big man something to add to the relationship. Yeah, Blair's a big guy. You know, maybe
he'll feel like he who knows. Yeah, let's let's get that petition. So something's gonna it could could happen, who knows. I do feel that JB's gonna get a head coaching job at some point, at some point, because he's got that personality. Um, and he's again been successful where he's been, and I know he got there the interview with Boston, but that just seems like a bigger job than maybe a first time coach can step into. That coach is in trouble. And Damien Damon Damon, who's now no
longer with Boston. He's a Boston but Milwaukee Milwaukee. Yeah I was green uniform. That got confused. Uh, Damon's no longer with Boston now he's into Georgia Tech, so he has some jobs in. Jason Terry is still coaching. I think he's in Utah still. Um, So all these guys have aspirations for being coaches, not that they would get that type of job. But Milwaukee is a big job. I mean there there's the number one yeah seed in the in the in the in the NBA after winning the title
not too long ago, two years ago May. So we'll see. It's it's a big boy sport, man, it is it is. And yeah, right, and if you're if you're afraid of that job, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway. So and I'm sure Joseph Blair's no, yeah, no, afraid of that. And I think he'll be eventually, at some point he'll be ready to do it. Yeah. Like I said, he's come a long long way. Um, anything else, you still got about six minutes I'm watching I got the PGA on on my iPad. And
there's a guy, a player who's knee deep in a lake. Not at the lake. It's a who god, who is that? I mean, he's up to his waist in water. I don't know what he's doing. He's got mud all over his arm and he fell, he fell in the water. This is awesome. That's gonna be all over. So the foot basketball game starts here about five thirty, right, right, uh, five thirty, so we're good. That gives me enough time to get home. Put something down on it. Step, Oh, don't do it. But
if I take the Lakers, though, wouldn't that make you? Yeah? Yeah, please take the layers. So you're putting double double down, Baby, I'll sleep easier. Oh God, excuse me, you're putting me to sleep, Steve, Okay, no, you you've had long days here, that old age of beers. So I've been seeing some really somebody, I mean, you want to talk about digging for stats? Right? Okay, somebody did a stat that Michael Wiley led that he had most yards or most
times that he wasn't touched before nine yards or something like that. And now there's another one. He's got the most yards per attempt when there have been seven defenders in the box, and he's got eight point zero average in that situation. He leads, he leaves, Oh, he leads a pack twelve. Okay. I think Michael Wile is gonna have a really good year. You know, he's he's really good. I think the whole office is gonna
have a good year. I hope that Delora can kind of move past what's happening with him, and you know that's gonna be a heavy burden, There's no question about it, don't you think on the road even at home again again, they just got to get some stuff out of the way in the preseason, right, get it, get at the hill out of the way, and maybe maybe you wait, you know what we've been talking about,
address it and get done with it. Maybe they do it at the start of camp, say this is it the last time we're talking about it, because by that time maybe some of some stuff has died down or whatever. But I do think they I do think he is going to need to address that, and whether he wants to or not, because he's gonna get asked
and then he's gonna get asked out of the place. But if he does it preseason and says, this is the last time I'm talking about it, and you know, when he goes to someone's school and somebody brings up and say, I addressed at the beginning of the day, I'm not talking about it anymore. You can do that, yeah, and that and that's what
that would that doing something like that would do. And if I was this pr advisor, if I was the departments a pr advisor, I would advise it they do something like yeah, and it's probably not even up to them anymore. It's probably up to the school. Yeah, and you know almost you're almost say if you do it. Kind of in the summertime, things
are kind of dead, nobody's around, nobody's talking football much. You'd say, hey, we're gonna old the press confers of Jade Delora would all show up, we talk about it for a day or two, and then it'd be goodnn, it's over right gone. So we have a called one. Let's go all right, Hi, you're on the ron on the ball. Hey, guys, love your show. Steve, you had the right sense to try to cut that guy off. I did it went through everybody? Did it go through? Did you hear it? You didn't cut it off?
No, we got to go through the through the have to. I'll have to peel it out of the well. Thanks for calling and let us know who's this? Who's this? I do love your show? Thank you? Who's this? Jeff? Jeff? Okay, Well, thank you very much, thanks for listening. Appreciate it, thank you and thanks for letting us know on that. Thank you, Thank you, Jeff Damn Howard. I did look at the clock, so through with nine minutes left in the show, so I'll find it. Well, Howard's called, wasn't that?
I did do that the other day too? Was it him? Was him the other day too, wasn't it? We don't have to have a chat with Howard. He's texting me earlier he said he didn't. I'm telling him he did? You did? You did? We just gotta call it? Said you did? All right? Okay? So um, anyway, going back to going back to the subject, you know, just just address it, address it, get it out of the way. Sure, and and for you know, for the media is good, but also for Jade the
lords. Sure of course. Let me ask you, have you checked over unders winnings for Arizona? Was it like five and a half? Five and a half? Probably still gonna be there, you unless it was a gift to you? But was it a gift? Would have a tough number, yes, because now you're saying you're betting that they're going to be in a ball game. Mm hmmm right. Six wins? Yeah, according to our guy Jake, whoill be on tomorrow, he says, he says seven wins
regular season and and then when possible win a ball game. Yeah, but he's never not optimistic. I'm looking it up right now to see where where Arizona is. They are. It's not five, which is like five and a half. I'm not what five you tie so you can get your money back. But they've dropped to five, So five, I bet the way I'd go over if i'd go over, if I were to bet it, I'm not gonna bet it. But still, I mean, I don't see
it. I don't see plus plus the plus your minus has gone down because at five and a half it was minus one fifteen, not's minus one ten. Okay, I think I'm gonna have to go get this right now. You're gonna go over? Yeah, yeah, I think that's the safest bet. Well, the smarter ben it's more fun to bet it that way. Well, for you to go out there and bet against them, bet for them to lose. I guess Kevin Summers there, I might. I did that with Maca. I didn't bet, but I was rooting against him,
so we get fired. But that's a kind of fan that I was. All right, Steve, that's it man, ok. Gold Nuggets. Steve's on the on the Nuggets. He needs them bad, needs him to win, needs him to keep win in and win the series. Steve wants them in six. Yes, right, they don't have to win a six, but yes, all right, I'm taking the Nuggets. You just said the Lakers go back to me, all right, be back tomorrow. We're gonna have Reggie Geary and Jake Fisher will be going now as step back tomorrow