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GUEST: Matt Moreno, GOAZCats.com, Rivals

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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio Whip Just Surgeon I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakin z Owes. Now we have Brian with breaking news. This is I on the Ball Breaking News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, let's get it going.

First thing up, as Keivin Clark. She broke a record the other night for the WNBA had two point one million viewers that followed her debut the other night, the most watched game in over twenty years. Twenty years. Wow, yeah, yeah, I mean the curiosity factor, woll the game fact, just the whole I mean, the everything factor. I mean, you know, it's just you look, you look at what I mean. People want to you know, people want to see this, and she's doing she's

doing something that nobody else has been able to do. And so you know, if you're gonna give her crap for all of that, then fine, because there are some people who are you see, there was a there was a clip of a file that she took. She's going down the lane and she just got clob I saw that. I want to say, clover, And I'm like, Okay, was there a little more a little something behind

that one or not? But and you know, everybody's you know, they're gonna do the welcome to the w NBA thing and that's fine, you know, And as long as she rolls with it and plays and still is good, then fine. Well, Tarashi was quoted again yesterday or the day before saying, uh, it's not like I didn't warn you about this, because

uh, it's not. She said. You're not playing against eighteen, nineteen twenty year old girls, right, You're playing against women who've been in the league, you know the game, who are crafty and whose jobs are on the line right right right, And you guess what, little girl, you're here to take my job. I'm gonna prevent you from doing exactly. You know. I'm sure they don't see it that way, but you know what I'm saying, at the context where where? And that's just the NBA too.

Look, and you know what it would be like. It's like that in every league, right of course, you know, Major League Baseball player comes up, you know, you know, gets to the plate, then you know, pittrol buzz them and you know, welcome, welcome to the you know, welcome major League Baseball or whatever. You know, it's there. These people are competitive and they're they're in they're in these leagues because they're ultra competitive, more competitive than you or I could ever be. And and

uh yeah, and that's why they're there exactly. It's funny because all you'll have rickings. I'll bring up something later. Go ahead, Okay, guess tonight she has her home opener, so we'll see if she does a little better in her second game. She had a pretty rough, pretty pretty rough night. Yeah. Well, they they're they're playing the New York Liberty, which has Sabrina I and Escu, who is like the other chosen one, right, you know, who came up through Oregon. Uh shoot, yeah,

and can shoot the hell out of the ball. You know, she had a three point shooting contest against did she against Steph Curry and stuff? So you know, she's helped generate some attention for all this as well. So the two of them be on the court on opposite size tonight, so there'll be a lot of people watching that one. Yeah, so that games at four o'clock Mountain Standard time on Prime video. If anybody wants to check

that out. Let's move over to the NFL. One of the topics on the NFL right now is the schedule release and one of the teams that they're I guess there's some complaints about it. The Jets are heavy early on the primetime, right Is he gonna be ready to play right away? Yeah, yeah, he's gonna play, but you know it's like, okay, if he blows out his thing again in the first game, you can have all these Jets games coming on, then nobody's gonna want to watch. And they

got six six primetime games this year. Yeah, on the for not having been any good in a while, so kind of crazy that. You know, Hey, Aaron Rodgers moves the needle. The big game was I think the first game was Kansas City Baltimore. That's gonna be the opening, be a fantastic game. Yeah, rematched the championship, so we'll see if Baltimore can get the revenge and yeah, take down the defending defending again. Yeah, So let's switch over to g c U. Yeah, interesting news.

Let me find it lost theirical one second. Sorry, Grand Canyon is moving to he is moving to the w c C, the West Coast Conference, that will be starting in twenty twenty five, right, so one more year. Right. That's that. That's the league that Gonzaga is in. They've been in that, they've been in the whack. The glan Can's been a little controversial, you know, because there are for profit college and people say, you know, that's not what these you know, are supposed to be.

But you know, they've been playing there, they've been playing television one. Colleges are not supposed to be for profit. No, they're not, wonder Arizona, they're doing a good job of not being for profit. Congratulations Arizona. You're doing exactly what you're not supposed to be doing. Well, I did. You're supposed to make some money, aren't you. No, colleges are supposed to make enough money to continue to operate. That's all.

That's what I try to do. But anyways, because I remember Luke saying that he would he was never going to play Grand Canyon, and they never did. No, they never did. But he was like in the later part, I don't remember him saying that, but maybe maybe because uh, well they've gone through some coaches, right because uh Marley one of our guys, friend of mine, Peneal was there for a while before he because Marty, Marty took him, took it over. And now they have a good

coach with the Bealpariso guy. Oh the shot at the shot Scott Drew. Yes, no, no, no, no, Bryce, Yeah, which you know, it's surprising that in the year or two if he continued, he'll go back to what he was doing. He got fired at Vanderbilt. And so they go to the West Coast Conference with with Zaga, Saint Mary's, Santa Clara, all those guys. So, yeah, that'll be good.

It'll be interesting. Seattle University is also going with them to bring the conference to eleven full members for full teams for the first time in its history. Okay, just adds a little bit of competitiveness. What else you got over to the Lithuanian Basketball League former Arizona Fordlis Cubilis Cubllis, you say his name, he wins the MVP. No, go back, get up and

do your thing. You wouldn't know what it is, Okay, So go ahead and say what he was to say, you were going to say that he's he won the m v P of his league, the league he grew up watching. He became the m v P in his first year. So this is Tubellus. He's saying this to them. They kicked that's his voice. Okay, that's his voice. But actually he kicked their asses and he became the MVP of his hometown, hometown league. Well, good, good

for him. What kind of new I mean he was gonna get he would he would do well playing overseas and you know these players who come here, they get this experience, this high level experience, you know, in places like Arizona whatnot. You know, Helena Poayo, she'll go to she'll go over to you know, overseas and she'll play and she'll be a star.

Reese was a star in Australia and in Australia Astralia. Right, so she's going to anottle league now, but she was like the MVP there right well right, so you know, and he's probably making a pretty decent living over there. They love their basketball over there, and he's a hometown guy, right, so you know, good for him. Mom's cooking goes a long way. It does it? Does you see his his brother graduated there was he was one of the was it with his son who graduated? Yeah,

so good for Zulus. Happy for him. Yeah. I think in twenty seventeen eighteen he made sixty four percent of two pointers, of two pointers and triples. He he kind of did that his whole career. In terms of triples. He was a decent shooter from the three. That's the only thing that was missing from his game because he was not a long distance shooter. Now he's still in that same range. You know. Uh, he's probably never gonna play in the NBA. He's just not an NBA athletic guy.

Let me ask you something. Are you almost done here? So Peterson sends me a note. Uh, I'm sure you saw the thing on Twitter where that Johnson Keyshaw. Johnson had a great workout. He was your workout guy for the combine. He jumped out of the gym. No shock there. He did a lot of the intangibles really well, no shock there. But now he has to play basketball, right, So I guess. I guess at a game he and I he said, who's gonna who's gonna get drapted

ahead of one of the or the other. It was Johnson or Pelle And I don't remember this. I said pell Pelle and he bet me twenty bucks and I said, okay, And then he got this news that he was doing really well. A combine to me, Okay, what does that mean someone's gonna like you because you can jump out of the gym all I So, I don't remember that, but I'll hold to the bet. And I you know why, I never would have made that bet, at least in my mind. I don't think any get drafted. That's the only reason I

said that. I said, I don't remember this because I don't think either one will be drafted. But if I made the bet, I made the bet. I don't think he's gonna get drafted, would you. I don't see. I don't see Pella getting drafted. But he is. He's been on has not been on any and that's why, and that's my point. He's fantastic, being gifted. But is he an NBA guy? Well, you know he you know, he's he's he's like he's a guy that you would You're not gonna go get him in the first round, but you know

that you can put on your bench and he can be useful. Do you get different? You get those guys as a free agent. Yeah, that's my point. You bring yeah, you bring him in, or you get him in as a second round pick or whatever. And you get him in and he say, Okay, you know, we've got some use for this guy. But that's you know, that's what it takes. So that's my

whole point. It also takes being in the right place either one. Oh yeah, of course, you know Michael Wright, all these guys between ers, whatever, and we'll see more power to them if they do get drafted. I just didn't think they would get drafted. Yeah, now I hear you. And again you know, you just get you get you. It's like the NFL drafted. You know, if you're going to get drafted in the seventh round, you might as well just go as a free agent.

So you can pick a spot right that fits, fits, that fits. You know, there's a there's a room for you there. You know that that's what you have to do. The last thing I got is we're switching over to the PGA Championship Tiger Woods. He's a four time PGA Championship winner. He carted one over seventy two, so he's I guess he's way back. Yeah. Well, Xander Shoftley shot at nine under par sixty two, which is just crazy. I mean, and you got him this weekend.

I picked it. Well, my boy, he hasn't got the memo that the Jiggins always curse. We'll see how that lasts. Yeah, he's uh, now he's not. He doesn't know that that that the tag is on him, So we'll see. Uh, we'll see what comes up there. But uh no, I think that uh you know, look, you know, here's here's I was having a conversation with some folks about the Live Tour players Brooks, Koepka, Bryson to Shambo, and Kepka's kind of up there.

He's in the top ten today. But I just can't help but feel, or think or theorize that these live guys have sort of lost their edge. You know, they plan on the Live Tour where you know, they've got their money, there's no pressure to win, you know, every week and compete and stuff like that. Then they come to the PGA Tour and come to the and playing these majors, and all of a sudden, these guys who were grinding every week and it's like, and you haven't been do

you lose your edge? And and I kind of think you do. I think from the normal people like you and me, you think they would. And I don't disagree with you because every week you're you're you're playing for your your food, your survival, right, your survival, uh, and the survival is what do you want to eat? Cavia or something. These guys you've got there one hundred million dollars and you know, no no pressure.

And I think that I just feel like that that kind of matters. I don't know, I could be wrong, but I feel like that anything else. I have one from Channing Fry, former U of a basketball player, you know he does his T and T stuff in the basketball podcast. He was telling made a story, uh, telling JJ Reddick to do not go for that job. It's a kiss of death job. Channing Fry, Oh,

wow, because a kiss of death. Every coach they've had in the last few years goes there to get fired because of obviously the main main event guy is Lebron and you have to kind of stir the right. It's a place where you go to get fired. Wow, he says, don't do it because it's it's a no work situation. And if you go there, like if you're JJ Reddick, you go there and do a bad job, you have a tough time getting another year. Yeah, so no, just

pick your pick a better spot. That's stuff. Don't go there, pick a better spot if you want to coach. Interesting, very interesting who JJ Redick. He hasn't gotten the job. I don't. I don't know. But but the thing about it in the in the NBA, if you're respected by the players as a coach, they'll play hard for you. If you're not looking. With in Phoenix, they didn't. You can you can hear reports that they're they didn't really respect the guy. They didn't play hard for

him. That's for darn sure. You know Steve Nash over there with the with Brooklyn and some of these other coaches that you just go in there and they say, I'm getting paid, don't tell me what to do. I'd be a tough job, even Steve, even Steve Kerr, who had some great players, this last few years have been very difficult for him because you know he's got you know, Green and Draymond Green and these guys who are just kind of paying you know, Okay, big pain in the butt.

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welcome back to iining the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jake. Now on the fun we have Matt mod and Go Easycats dot Com. Matt, how are you doing great? Guys, Thanks for having me back. You must be a very busy man with portal and recruiting and all that stuff on two sports. Yeah, I mean it really

never stops these days. And you know, something that we'll see if that eventually gets remedied, because it's not just me, because you know, I'm out a bunch of high schoo this week and check in on spring spring football for a lot of programs, and there's coaches all over the place as well. And you know, saw a few members of Arizona staff within the last couple of days and they're all out on the road, and so even coaches,

you know, they never have any time off. It used to be this was a little bit of a slower time of year, and it's just not that case anymore. It's kind of a year round thing. And you know a lot of that has to do with the portal, but everything kind of impacts everything else, and so yeah, it's kind of a year round deal now, covering recruiting and figuring out where everyone's going to go at all these colleges. So you know, one of the things big things everybody's waiting

for here. Maybe maybe not. It's sort of a recruiting thing because you're trying to recruit this guy back is you know, Caleb Love whether or not he comes back, and then how that affects everything else, right, because you don't you know, you don't know what what happens there, But what's the latest? What do you know? What do you think? Uh? Where's that headed? Yeah, I mean I think nobody really knows for sure until you get all of the information. But you know, the combine has

been going on, and you know there's different invites going out. You have some guys that go to the G League, you know, combine and they get pulled up and you've seen someone like Lookie Ellis go through that process, and Caleb Love has kind of been caught in the middle of that, and obviously not getting an invite to the Big Combine is notable because you know a lot of people who are making those decisions about who goes to that are the

ones that are going to be making the picks once the draft comes around, and so I think you can kind of glean something from that a little bit and get an idea of kind of where he stands in the overall picture. But if you're not a guaranteed first round picks, I'd be very hard pressed if I'm in that position to say, yeah, I'm going to stay in the draft. But I know there's that appeal and sometimes players only need to here from one team that hey, we're going to take you, we seek

your first round talent, and that's enough for them. But that just hasn't been the buzz around Caleb Love. You know, it's he kind of is what he is, I think as a player, and so it feels like a lot of NBA teams have kind of decided what he is and there's not a ton of first round buzz with him right now, and so I think

the feeling is that he's going to eventually come back. I think there's obviously different things that can change in the eleventh hour, and you know, it could go different ways, and sometimes it's just you know, however, they wake up that day and they feel like, you know, not never mind, I want to stay in the draft. I want to I think I

have a shot. I think I'm counted enough to play in the next at the next level and get drafted, and you know, things can change, but at least kind of reading how everything has been so far and how it's played out, it just feels like it's going to eventually lead to him coming back, which will obviously be very big for Arizona, and you know, give them a proven player once again at that position, and then someone who's

into the battles and did a lot of good things this last season. I would imagine that money might play a factor if if not, because I'm sure he's going to get paid well here in IL, I wouldn't have any figure because to me, he's not He's not going to come home. Unbelievable. Yeah. So yeah, whether it's five two hundred thousand and fifty thousand, I don't know, but I'm sure that's a factor as well. I mean you have to think, you have to think about those things. And again

that's where I'm talking about. If you're not a guaranteed first round pick and you're not slotted into yeah, I'm gonna be on a roster, I'm gonna be making you know, a sizeable amount of money at the NBA level, why not come back? I mean you're seeing some of these players reportedly getting

up to two million dollars to play in college. I mean, you're just not gonna get that, you know, as a second round pick, or if you're a free agent and you're gonna have to battle and really try and fight to get a roster spot in the NBA, why not get two million dollars if some team is going to be you know, involved in doing that and want to give that to you. Washington just pulled a guy in as

a transfer portal player that is importably getting two million dollars. And so, you know, if you're gonna be getting if you're talking about those types of numbers, even if you're talking about you know, two hundred and fifty thousand

guaranteed or whatever, however it's gonna play out in the nil space. You know, if you're a player that's on the fringe and it is not going to be a guarantee first round pick, why not come back to college, you know, be a star player for whatever team you play for, and you know, maybe make some good money in the process. And so I think that is the kind of the big X factor in his whole whole deal.

And I think that's a big part of why you're seeing a lot of players test the waters because they can, you know, they can go through this entire process, gather all the information that they need and return to school and go, you know, I'm gonna collect my ANIL check and I'll be just fine, and now I know what I need to work on and what

I need to improve on for next year. And I think that's why you're seeing so many players because they're definitely were some head scratches when you saw that list come out of you know, early entrant NBA players and you're like, oh, I didn't think that guy even had a shot. But if they're gonna allow it, and they're gonna allow you to go to go through the process and come back to school, you know, why not. And so I definitely think the nil element is kind of even as the playing field in

a lot of ways. And you know, it gives players a reason to go test the waters and feel it out, and if not, they can come back and still feel like they're making money and you're helping their families in a lot of ways. And then that's you know, what their ultimate goal is and they want to be able to, you know, make a living and so and al makes that possible. And a lot of people have different opinions on what it means for the game and what it means in college athletics,

but you know, it is a big part. You can't overlook that element of this whole thing. So I don't know, are you over thirty? Now how old are you? I am over thirty. So you you reach the rivera age of being cranky about all this we're getting. We're getting We're getting there day by day. So does this make you cranky? All this stuff? I mean it does, I mean in a lot in a

lot of ways. It's just there's just a lot more layers. And the thing is like, you know whatever, I guess the FBI case kind of showed what was going on before and it was not It's not necessarily only different from what was going on before. It's just a little bit more on the surface, I think, and so there's different things that are in play, So it just makes it a little bit more, a little more steps you have to get through and decipher and kind of weed through to figure out what's

kind of going on and how decisions are being made. And you know, in a lot of cases it's just coming down to straight up numbers and who's gonna pay me the most, and that takes some of the fun out of it, I think for a lot of people, so suchial people in my position, and obviously fans of you know, our website and subscribers of our website and people who follow these things, and you want to believe, like, hey, no, they're picking this school because they love the school and

they love the staff and they love the fan base and they want to be a part of this thing. But it's become less so of that, and you know, that's just kind of part of this whole deal. And we talked about that before, and you know, it's it's not as much about that. It's especially for transfers, it's a lot about what are what are the numbers? Let me know those numbers and then I'll make a decision.

We're talking to Matt Modano from goisycast dot com as well as rivals. Some man on the football side, you know, coaches are now being raided on their you know, transfer portal recruiting, uh and and how that's going. Arizona's got some guys. There's still some guys hanging out there. Elijah Badger, the receiver from from a SU is looking at three schools that all have

sort of a a jedfish connection. You know what we're what, how well do you think Brent Brandon has done and what's left for them to do? Yeah, I think they've done a really solid job. I think there's obviously some more players that are out there. And that's the thing is, just because of the transfer portal window close doesn't mean that you're gonna see transfer recruiting

stop. There's still a lot of players in the portal. All the window was was just that players could no longer enter after you know, May first and so. But there's still a ton of players in the portal and there's gonna be a lot of players that eventually come out on visits. But I think a lot of the work has been done up to this point. You know, Elijah Badger is obviously the big name that's still kind of out there for Arizona. He'll be making a decision very very soon before the end of

the week, and Arizona's right in the mix of it. And it is funny that you mentioned the Jetfish connection, because they're all you can kind of it's the six degrees of Jetfish. I guess you know, everyone kind of has a little bit of a of a connection to Elijah Badger. It sounds like Washington is probably out of it, out of the picture at this point. I don't think you'll actually be joining Jeff Fish. I think that'd be a big surprise. Talking to a lot of different people and kind of hearing

some things behind the scenes. I don't think that's going to be the destination. So then it comes down to is he going to go to Arizona? Are going to go to Florida? And I think, you know, the way it sounds are now, Florida feels like it's probably in the better spot. But I don't think you count Arizona out. I think there's a lot to be uh excited about. If you're if you're Elijah Badger. And you look at the situation at Arizona, you look at the quarterback spot that's very

solidified. You look at the players you're gonna have around you, especially offensively, you know, to be able to kind of play off of someone like Teto McMillan and some of these other guys that they have offensively. I think that's a big deal for someone like Elijah Basher and similar like we were talking with Jamian Martinez from Oregon State when they're going with Miami. I think the

positive even if Arizona doesn't get Elijah Badger. I think the biggest thing that you can really look at is that Arizona's playing ball in terms of NIL because you look at David Martinez, you look at you know, Elijah Badger, and and there's NIL is a big part of this. You're talking about cools Miami Florida that have NIL, and you know that's gonna be a big part of this equation. I just mentioned what I mentioned about transfer portal players and

how much that's at the four up for a lot of them. I think it's a great sign that Arizona is getting involved with these recruitments. It's not I think I think the fact that burn Brandon and his staff are doing a good job and setting involved is a good sign as well for the future and

what they're going to do recruiting wise. But I think the bigger messages that Arizona's involved with some pretty premiere NIL programs and that tells you they have some money to spend, which is a very good thing and if you're Arizona, a positive thing for the future and at least the investment going into the football

program and what it could become under Burn Brandon. If they're already getting involved with some of these players and becoming a finalist for some of these players, so you know, are gonna you know, garner some big NIO money. So I was before you went went there with NIL, would you happen to know? I know, I haven't asked. Only Jay has what Arizona Arizona's budget is with that, with that overall, and you said they're being competitive,

so it must be pretty good. There's numbers that are going to plot it around. Is the number one question that you try and get answered behind the scenes, that nobody talks about it. That's stilled the big hurdle when you look at when you try and cover this stuff. When you look at all these things, there's agents involved. Now there's nil, collective is involved. Everyone's protecting the numbers unless they want it out there. So it's not

as prevalent as you think. There's not people that are like throwing those numbers around maybe hear about it after the fact. I think the one thing that I've kind of picked up along the process and talked to some people, especially earlier in the off season, was that there's some high dollar figures that are thrown out there, and that it ends up being a lot smaller than what

people think. So if you're hearing a million dollars, you're probably not the person's probably not getting a million dollars, so they're not talking about that that high. I think those numbers get blown up que a bit, but it is still significant money that's being spent in the hundreds of thousands for certain players. That's come up quite a bit, and that's kind of been the norm.

Is you're talking about a starter level player. There's a couple hundred thousands of dollars that you're talking about when it comes to nil, and so it's been interesting to kind of hear some of the numbers around as far as hard concrete facts, people just don't and gives that up. It's very it's still pretty secretive. I think we're going to get to a point in time where that becomes less of the case and we're talking about contracts and numbers and it's

all public information and people are going to know exactly what's going on. We're just not there yet, and so so I don't have numbers for you because it's very closely guarded. People just don't talk about it. You can ask players outright and they won't tell you. It's it's something that you know, people don't want to talk about their money. And as much as it's a big part of this whole process, it's it's still very much under wraps,

you know, a couple of years into this whole Nile thing. And that's one of the issues going forward right there. In a lot of the what they're talking about in terms of rules around NIL. One of the things the NCAA wants, I think at least, is for there to be some sort of reporting so that kind of everybody knows what they're dealing with. Whether that come to fruition, I mean, it's like so what you have to tell how much you make in order to make it. I don't know how they're

gonna ever say that that's that they can do that. Yeah, I mean eventually. Feeling is and talking to different people who are involved at different levels, and obviously it's still very much speculation. But the feeling is I think that around for people around college athletics is that it's going to look much more like the pros. You're gonna have maybe a salary cap, You're gonna have

people reporting these numbers. It's it's gonna become a lot more public and people you're gonna know what you know, test Roe McMillan is making or no Fafida is making, and you're just it's just gonna be well known. And how you get to that point. We'll figure that out, I guess as it goes on and we'll see how it plays out. But the feeling is that that is eventually what it's gonna become. It's going to look a lot more like the pros, and you're gonna have you know, there's already a lot

of GM types within college athletics. There's a lot of people within these uh you know, programs that are now considering themselves general managers. And so if you look at a lot of programs around the country, they're kind of going more towards that model where coaches are kind of coaching, and then your talent evaluators, your player personnel people are really the ones going after the players and saying, hey, these are the players we're bringing to you. Now you

go coach. So it's kind of starting to see those wheels turn a little bit more after college level, and I think it's only going to be more so the case as we keep going on in these years and as the game continues to change and shift, And I do think it's eventually just going to become a lot more public, and you're going to know kind of exactly what everybody's making in NIL and well that eventually becomes an actual contract and they're making

straight up getting paid to play for college programs. We'll see, but I think it's going to become a lot more transparent. And I agree, and I think, again, what you're just alluded to, I think everybody evolved out to see it become a lot more transparent because there's a lot of gray area right now. And if there's a gray area, we know people in college athletics will try and work within that gray area. So I think the hope is that eventually becomes more black and white and more clear, but just

not there yet. Even if it becomes black and white, as you were speaking, I'm thinking there's still going to be players and boosters who are going to be in those handshakes that we used to familusly talk about ten twenty years ago are still going to exist even with their contract. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that's always going to be part of the game, and it's going to be there's gonna if there's a way to get an advantage, there's gonna be someone who wants to figure out how they can get that

advantage. Yeah. Okay, well, Matt, thanks a bunch, good luck, spend the rest of this sea relaxed this summer. At some point we'll see, We'll see, Okay, maybe July. You we'll focus on July. Okay, thank you, Thank you, Matt. Matt more from Goeasycats, Uh, let's go and come back and then talk about more. There's some stuff going at Pima that we can get to real quick. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty

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they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson Sports Stage. Chef Fox Sports fourteen to fifty streaming live on the iHeartRadio wapp Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. You got thrying with us today. We've got fifteen minutes exactly to give us a call got left in the program. Five to two oh four one six seventy four forty Just a couple of quick things I found out just now. First game in the tournament lost lost to Vegas, to the j C and

Vegas. So now they have a work cut out for that double domination tournament, I think. So. Yeah, yeah, district tournament. Good enough to play in it. So, but they lost their first game. And then there was something for breaking news the shortstop. You wa short stop and you see the Mason. Mason is now a Dick Howser Trophy semi finalist. He hit he hit a massive Yeah you're talking about the other day. Yeah,

I think it was a big dude. He's not a big dude, and I mean he it was like it went like four to seventy and if you it was one of those homers where is he lefty too? Yes? Left he's a lefty. One of those homers where you you know, when you're watching the video from behind the picture and he hits it and you just go, oh, that's gone, because you just knew, what's that? What's the guy? I forget his name? Uh surprised the center fielder for UB A couple three years ago, very good. Yeah, not not a

couple of last year. Was I think two years ago? Okay, I know what you're thinking of, and I can't think of a swinging swing. Yeah. Yeah. Chase Davis even the baseball name, right, that's a baseball name. He was fantastic. Yeah. I would maybe google him to see if you find out where he's at and how he's doing, because he was one of those lefties that you'd say, God, I wish I could swing the ball like him, swing the bat like very cool. All right.

I remember watching him a couple of years ago when I went to a lot of the games he was. It was like you had to stop what you're doing to watch him right to play because he was one of those great players. Okay, Steve, you're gonna get a chuckle out of this. This just came up on on on on Twitter and reposted by by Darren Ravel. It's it's uh the amount of money bet on various sports in at Colorado

sports books. Okay, okay, not a surprise. Right at the top of the list basketball and I think it's pro basketball because then they've got a category for Incy double A basketball. So two hundred and thirty million dollars on pro bat basketball, one hundred and two million dollars on NCAA basketball. Next is tennis tennis, twenty nine million dollars bet on tennis. After that it's ice hockey, which you know they got They got the Avalanche, you got

team. So the twenty two million on hockey, twenty one million on soccer, and I'll give you thirty guesses at the next one. Well, that's just where the trick ques. Fourteen million dollars bet on this in Colorado. I don't know ping pong? Oh? Really, table tennis? You bet on pin? I guess, And here's the kicker. It's higher than baseball. Wow, Colado, thirteen million dollars bet on baseball? Doesn't it surprises me? It surprises me. But remember where the Olympic headquarters are in Colorado

Springs. How much of a degenerate you have to be? Let me one ask one. Okay, I've never bet on table tennis ever. It's funny. It's funny because I play, obviously playing, uh and TJ plays. I didn't know he plays. And we're gonna have a tournament at the house someday soon. But yeah, if you're betting on I wouldn't even know who I want to wear? What? What would you bet on? Just a

player? Just yeah? Match? Okay? More was bet on table tennis, then on baseball, then on golf in Colorado, then on M M A. And there's a lot of gambling on M m A. Right, isn't that crazy? Yeah? I wouldn't tis. I wonder what levels too? Did you even get to watch it? Where do you watch it? Uh? Yeah? No? Remember are they betting on ATX throwing and and and and hornhole? You know, maybe a little curling, you know, from the Olympics. I love curling, But fourteen million bucks bet on table

tennis, like pickle ball's not on there? Because that's exactly I mean. I still make fun of the fact that a dearly departed friend of mine, right right, uh who one time bet on women's Olympic hockey women's Uh they could be back. And you know, in Vegas, we were in Vegas for something and uh, and there was a women's Olympic hockey game on the board and you bet on it. And to me, that's like a level of degenerate that it's hard to surpass. But if you're betting on table tennis.

I think you. I think that surpasses that. I almost feel like I want to go bet on that and just keep the ticket, right and not even even if I win, just keep the ticket. Just I once bet on table tennis and just and just frame the ticket. Okay, I've done I've done that though, I've framed the ticket. Yeah. Oh, I have a I had to make a like a frame thing for my brother

with a program and a photo and his ticket. Uh. When American Pharaoh ran in delmart after he won the Triple crinst and I've got this ticket and I didn't cash it, and I've got the I took a picture and then he had the program still, So I put all that in a nice little frame I have. I have the ticket from the Triple Crown to them, two two dollars winners from the Triple Crown from Bill from Belmont because Bill Baffort got it. Buy two winning tickets. Don't cash them. They're worth you

know whatever, four bucks whatever. Yeah, but don't cash them. Just bring them back to me. Have a middle frame there. Yeah, cool, very cool. Anyway, did you see it start? Did you you read the Athletic every now again? Yeah? So there was a free preb from Dana O'Neill on Bafford yesterday or last night. A very good story on just his thoughts on the whole situation everything with him involving Churchill downs. He's kind of moving on from it. He's hoping that the next year they man,

he's gonna kind of be low profile when it comes to that. He has a chance this weekend. I don't know if he'll win it, but uh, he has a chance. His first horse, the Favorite, is out out, so he has another horse called the Imagination, So maybe he wins it. I'm not sure I'll bet it. But what what what do you think, daven what's gonna How's he? How does he get back into that well? I mean and will will he? This will always be his reputation, won't it. Yeah. Yeah, he's seventy one years old.

He could he could train until he's one hundred, right, you know, because he's that guy and d Wayne Lucas is like in his eighties and he's still doing it. Uh, it's gonna follow him, obviously, but he's still one of the best trainers and outside of Churchill and a few of the trainers inside the room, Uh, he's still Bob Bafford. He's still one of the best in the business because he my guy's here. White men and Watson have horses with him, fantastic horses with him, and a lot of

owners of horses. You know, if I had that money, because guess what's where it's going. That's where it's going. A guy who can win, and he's a winner, and he's done a lot of things. Uh, this happened unfortunately. Yeah, but you know, Uh, I hate to bring the name up, but I will. Uh. The other U a grad who had the he had the player Placher had the one you have, the favorite in the last pretty in the last derby, he finished fifteenth

or whatever. He got in trouble last year for stuff. He just wasn't at the Kentucky Derby. So it's just you know, the level of trouble. Yeah. Uh, but he's he's still one of the best games. They love him in California because all he does is win. Yeah, and and and he's still I mean, his name still rings. I think the question will ask you ask that same question to d because now she's been in

it for two years. She knows the players now and she probably better answered the question because she knows she's talked to him, she spent some time interviewing him. So I mean, we'll talk about that time. Well, she'll be on tomorrow. We'll talk about about that and talk about the breakness. You know. I'm not even gonna be home when it when it runs, so I don't know that I'll eaven bet on it. Yeah, it should.

It's the thing got to be. It's not as exciting as the last few years because, uh, you know, Dan might win it again, but the the field is a lot smaller. Yeah, and the excitement is not gonna be like it was two weeks ago. You see what who was it? Jason Kelsey said the other day about Secretariat. No, I want to smack him in the head. What do you say said that? He said, there's no doubt Secretariat was juiced up. No, I didn't see that. Yeah, And I'm like, you know what, you need to

get your face kicked in by Secretariat? All right, stand right, stand right there, let's Secretary kick you right in the nuts, because I mean, come on, man, that's what that's like. That's like, you know, that's like saying the pope was juiced up? Right? I mean, it's secretariat is like royalty in all sports. Who said this is Don Travis Jason, his brother brother, Yeah, on a podcast, and I'm like, what do you Why would he say that? And what context?

I don't know, I don't know, and and and why why would you? Why would you go after horse? It has been dead for like thirty years. Yes, he'll go after dead people or did horse come on? Man? Ah? God? Well oh he said it on the podcast. Yeah, on the podcast. Yeah, okay, yeah, you'll have to go look that up. People with radio shows and podcasts you can see whatever they want. God, I mean the horse that I here to defend himself,

well, who knows? Well, probably not, probably not. Have you ever seen the movie the Disney movie that came out with Diane Lane very good. Yes, this is corny, but it was fun. You know, the only thing that bugs me about the movie is that is that the the the horse racing scenes weren't at the actual tracks were of those races took place? Right? I think I looked it up. They ran them at

oh god, I can't remember where. But what like the Belmont was not there was not be yeah whenever you yeah, but you know, but it's a it's a corny movie. But this is gonna sound weird, but Secretary was kind of like a hero to me. It was just like that horse is so damn good. And you know, I was what I think I when I was fourteen, when thirteen years old? When oh yes, when well that summer I turned fourteen, that summer seventy three and uh and uh god, how do I? How do I? How do you? Well?

Of course we know that with that, we couldn't remember nineteen or twenty twenty four yesterday. Well, those races can pop up on my social media, uh you know, all three races at different you know, different times on TikTok, on my Facebook feed, on Twitter and stuff. And I just watch that every time, especially that that that that Bellmont Stakes. I mean just like just talk about an athlete that just kicked a crap out of

everybody and just left no doubt about its greatness. And that was that was so cool, right right, you're gonna watch I know you're not, probably won't watch this the Tyson Tyson fighting. No, I want to because I hope he wins. And I don't know about winning because I'm sure the punchers are gonna be legit. Yeah, but how legit? Will it be? Right? Yeah? Because he's not the other guy's not too likable. Yeah, and that's funny because Tyson's not too likable, but he's unlikable. He's

becoming you know what made him likable the movie The Hangover. Let's take this. Let's take this, cust Hi, you're on the Aaron on the ball. Hi fella, it is your buddy, Jim. Hey, Jim, what's up? Well? I heard you actually talking about baseball for a few minutes and wry Walker's name came up. Yes, he's one of my probably top two or three favorite players of all time. Really, why why is

that? Well? He was such a gifted, well rounded athlete. That guy in one year hit forty nine home runs and three sixty three I think it was, yeah, and spool twenty bases. Yep. You I got to see him up close and in person down here at you know, at the Reed Park, Yeah and the Diamonds when we played. And spectacular athlete. He didn't look the part, but he could move, he could jump, he could run everything well. And he had one of those he had

one of those really pretty left handed swings just a beautiful swing. He could swing three quarters and hit it out to center field. Yeah, yeah, no, I I liked him a lot because for that part, and also because the Rockies were never really ever a danger to the Dodger. So but he was. I hear you. It always is, Jim, feel my pain, feel my pain. Every day in this room thinking Dodgers. That's that's turned into a money laundering operation. It is like, whoever can spend

a trillion dollars will win the baseball this year. Well, they're not guaranteed to win it, but they're they're doing very well, as well as they should be. Uh, they went through a tough stretch, but all of a sudden they are Steve. They don't have their pitching set up, Yeah, but they're going to shortly. Yeah, they're starting to. If no one else gets injured, they're gonna be just amazing. Yeah yeah, all right, ja, and we got to hit the road, top of the

hour, end of the show. So thanks for calling. Appreciate it, yep, thank you. By Yeah, No, they he made the pitching is the key to the Dodge and they're they're they've got a patchwork staff right now. But what's happening is that they're kind of the back end pictures are getting some really good experience and pitching really well. Walker Buelder just came back. Clayton Kershaw is still on the you know, on the shelf for now.

But if they get you know, some of their stud pitchers back, they're they're gonna, yeah there the other they're like a six like a six game lead in the West, and they start a series tonight with your Reds. So we'll see what happens your Reds, Cincinnati Reds. You know they are. You're trying to hide. You're like you like that guy that's got the bottle of booze in the paper bag. You don't want anybody to know

you're drinking it what you're drinking. But you're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're drinking the red You guys don't believe me, but uh as they say, you couldn't care less. You know you do, you know you do. You're just trying to convince everybody. You're trying to keep that rapid. As a non sports fan, kind of all right, I headed out to the the uf A Gang tonight. I at least I

am Steve's bailed out on that, but we'll see how that goes. Are trying to clinch the back off championship tonight and if they do, uh, you know, good on them. So we'll see what happens. Uh. But see at the ballpark. Hope there's a bit crap and then we will see you back here tomorrow. We're gonna talk some horse races, so be sure to come around.

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