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GUEST: Sean McNeill, Manager, Tucson Saguaros Pecos League baseball team

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Stringy Live. I mean I Heeart Radio WI. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera and Jay Goob Salez by Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we have Ryan with breaking news. This is I on the Ball, Breaking News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, We're gonna start with something a little bit local. University of Arizona football yesterday

announced that they signed sixteen transfers. Today they added another one. Former Colgate defensive back Owen Goss has announced that he has committed to the Wildcats. He has one season of eligibility remaining. What are the guys we didn't talk about yesterday? I think it happened yesterday or or over in the last period. Was the kid who went from New Mexico to here to Mississippi to come back

named to Ja Corey something or other. Yeah, Bill, I guess this is his his nickname, which is another a nice, nice little ad add subtract to add again to the running situation. Yeah, they, I mean they they loaded up and running back and wide receiver on the defense of an

offensive lines. You know it's it's gonna be interesting. Look at again, this is the way it is. And you know, people freak out when guys leave, but you know, guys leave from all the different schools and now of a sudden, you know, guys you know are coming back, not coming back, but you know they're filling the holes. And that's just the way. You know, the turnover is just going to be like that. And we keep saying that, and everybody's just got to get used to

it. You know, they they people lose their minds when these people leave from Tommy Lloyd's program. Well, Tommy Loid, he's got to go out and get guys right. And the thing that Tommy Lloyd did best was he got three guys that went into the NBA Draft and got him got them all to come back. So the same thing with football. Guys are gonna leave and guys are gonna you know, come and go. They got a couple of Polynesian players, you know, to kind of add to that pipeline that

they're really doing a nice job of establishing. The recruiting looks similar to what Jed Fish was doing right, right, And we're gonna have Brennan on next week at some time to talk about what's going on. Yeah, but you know that's that's just the way it is. And you you line them up and uh, you know, in the fall and see what happens. I'm very excited for football to come back. Yeah, I you know, I was. I was. I was talking to my wife this morning, believe

it or not. We're out for a walk and we were having the chat and I was saying, you know what with baseball ending, you know, softball's over. It's like, okay, now we're in the Big twelve. Yeah, right, we're in the Big twelve. We're not We're not in the Pac twelve anymore. We're not hanging on you're not wrap. We're in the Big twelve. We've got to start talking about the Big twelve. Now. Okay, So well I'm curious. Does she look at you like I

look at you like, what the hell you talking about? Yeah? Kind of? She just said, okay, thanks to Yeah, keep talking, keep talking? Is this what's gonna end? No? That that's actually I'm making fun. That's actual, not true. She's very interested in she's a big fan. He's a big fan. You know, of course, she you know, she likes Mokie bets more than she likes me. But that's another story for another I think a lot of Dodgers do. She's like,

look your bets and uh. And Justin Turner, who's no longer he's actually in Toronto blee Jay now he's now a Blue j He was a Red Sox last year and he's now with the Blue Jays. He's on my fantasy team, which means he's hurt. Yeah, accurate. That's about right. All right, move on. I was staying on topic of college football. Just news just broke, probably about an hour ago. The n CUA a okays on field sponsor logos for the regular season football games. This kind of goes

back to the the case of House versus the n c A settlement. Just an opportunity. You gotta go to the couch cushions and get fine places to make money. Let me ask you, in your heart of hearts. So we were in twenty twenty four, this would have been taboo. Your two thousand naming rights in that football stadium. I think you know, I think they almost have no choice. I think you got to name the football Sam. I think you got a named Michael, and I don't know if they

will, but I think you have to. You know, you know, you can get millions of dollars out of that. The question is who who? Who? Right? You know, is it is it local? You know? Issues Arenas was called Wells Fargo Arena for you know a lot of years. Yeah, you know, you know, do you go to Bank of America? Do you go to P and C? You know a bank? You know, remember there was a time that there was gonna be they were gonna put Casino Del Soul or Desert Diamond on the field, and people

lost their minds over that. You know, are you are you the draft? You know draft kings. I want to go there, you know Draft Kings at McHale Center or something. I want to go there after the breaking news that type of discussion. Yeah, once you finished. But you know, I don't think they have a choice. People. People will lose their minds. But you've got to go get money from someone, no question, no question. Switching over to the NBA, ex NBA player Delonte West was

arrested on two misdemeanor charges. He was arrested in Virginia early Thursday morning, forty years old. But what do you do? Let's see violating the conditions of his release and resisting arrest. Yeah, he's been in trouble for a long time. Uh, he's got a lot of issues from the past. And I think he plays for Dallas and he's got a lot of trouble from there too. Yeah. He's older guy, he's in the years old.

This is not his It doesn't need when you're that age and you're getting you know, into that, it's kind of like it's a long haul for you. Yeah. Well, so this news just broke on uspn uh Nate Diaz and think for a the news conference erupted in the into a brawl. No, really, was that a boxing you thank you you go to If a brawl doesn't break up, then it's then it's a boring news conference, exactly exactly. I'm shocked there's no video veteran, I'm not a big US you

know, tickets to Steven. Steve's a big, big UFC boxing guy. I've never I mean I watched one couple of years ago. I mean it was that like Buffalo Wow Wings. But I've never understood paying for it because it can end like in oh sure, but you got a lot of endings. You have a lot of beatings, beatings. You know, you get five or six beatings for you freed the price of your chicken wings. I mean, I guess you're not. You're not paying for just that one by

your You're paying for all the all the blood. And it was I mean, it was interesting to watch it. Yeah, it's it's it's cool. It's a night of you know, hanging out with the people. That's all I have today. Okay, so, uh, there's plenty more stuff, but let me go here because it's been in the news a lot lately. Uh. So we just said, iron the Ball Bechale Center. We'll go put me here right exactly. So, Jay, So, a lot of people, a lot of people players are getting uh in trouble because they're gambling,

uh in house baseball blah blah blah. So you have the they're in house to draft kings in the in the or or whoever is in the building. Is that is that part of the problem. But a lot of people are saying they're taking money as sponsorships with now they're in house and they're you know, the call is coming coming from inside their house. I get that,

That's why I ask you. But a lot of even even back in the day, and we talked about this with when Cedric was the n C Doua a chairman and after him and all that, they wanted to take the lines out of the newspapers, right because they would trust And of course it

made no sense, right because that was the least of the problems. It's it's very simple, Okay, yes they you know, draft kings and you know and whatever, all these batting sites are being you know, they're they're they're part of the fabric of sports now, whether it's college or the pros. That's a part of it. So what you can still have rules that

say we we do this, we endorse this. But if you're going to be a Major League baseball player, you can't partake in Sure, the NFL too, right whatever, you know, if you're an athlete, you can't partake it. There should be no problem with it. Now it's your problem, you know, you you the player. Sure, it's your problem if you can't abide by those rules, is the way I see it, you

know, And so I don't think it's part of the problem. There's always been this, you know, there's always been the ability to gam you know, I think the fact that it's now more in the open is actually better than what it used to be, because look true, you know what, what I'm suggesting is that these guys were getting caught. They're getting caught before when it was all underground, I'm guessing there were a lot of guys gambling.

They didn't just start gambling when DraftKings came around. It's what I'm saying, they've been gambling with bookies. We just don't know it because they didn't get caught because it wasn't so easy to find out. It's easy to find out now, and that's better. You just talked to the nineteen eighteen Red Sox or Black Suck or Yeah, we're talking one hundred years ago that these guys were gambling, and it's probably more prevalent than because they didn't make any

money. So to me, it's not that, oh, guys are suddenly gambling. They're not suddenly gambling. They've always been gambling, you know, Pete Rose, You know, I mean, they've always been gambling. We just didn't know it because they weren't getting caught because it was so under ground. Now they're getting caught because it's out in the open and it's easy to get caught, you know. And I'll tell you what, there's probably still

guys gambling with bookies. There's still bookies around. You know, you're dumb if you're if you're gambling with a bookie, because now you know, I mean maybe and maybe you know you live in California. You can't gamble online, so maybe there's bookies in California. Yeah. Well, if you're if you're in Arizona, got a bookie, you're you're kind of stupid, right there you go, he's interpreter. We just pleaded guilty and all that stuff.

So I don't think I mean, okay, so the candy is there and it's getting waved in front of you, doesn't mean you have to take it. Yeah, it's temptation versus reality or whatever, right, you know. To me, it's guys that To me, it's just it's just dumb. Yeah. Well, when you're making millions of dollars, Yeah, why why why would you know? Why would you risk your You're you know that guy who who there's no answer, who lost his seven hundred and forty thousand

dollars UH annual salary because he made a ninety nine dollars bet? What are you doing? Yeah, well we have a guy who's been on our show and we think the world of them. So Stanley Barryhill, what are you doing it? You know, risk reward dude, you know that's all a part of it. You know, what do you do? Why would you

do that? Just don't you know, go gamble on something else, you know, go go bet the horses if you've got a gambling niche and you got money to money to blow, you know, but just don't you know, what are you doing to me? It's a matter of just a lack of intelligence or or as in some cases, some guys just think they're above

the rules. They said, well, I'm a Major League Baseball where I can do whatever I want, and I think that I think that's some of it, because there are some there are some athletes who think that the rules, you know, not that not just athletes, you know, people who are in prominent places, either make a lot of money or whatever, who think rules don't apply to them. You know, we have a former president

who thinks rules don't apply to him. So it's you know, it's that it's not that it's available, it's just that, you know, some of these people just think I don't have to buy by the rules of rules for other people who don't have what I have. Okay, well, speaking about gambling, the Belmont is here on Friday. On Saturday, I'm sorry afternoon. We'll have a regular girl d on tomorrow. I haven't looked at it.

It's what I think, I know what I want. I never did send her a note that she helped me pick a winner for well, you can tell her tomorrow. I will tell her marrow thank her on the air. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna use that to go with the belt. Seize the great Seize, the great goes goes, I think again on Saturday, so we'll see what happens there. Yeah, okay, nothing else, Senor, I can't. I got breaking these the Dodgers up for his zip.

That that's Brooke hard breaking heart. It's only the bodom of the second need to get The Pirates are beating him too, in a row. They beat him one zip. Goze Gonzales, Nick Zales. Yeah, we hadn't mentioned that nicko zas the Tucson kid he went to. We had him on the show. I think so he's somewhere on the side that his dad had his dad. I'm sorry, Yeah, I think you he went to high school. He's been up. He's been up in the majors for a while,

which I didn't know. I only noticed him on Tuesday when I saw him, uh batting against the Dodgers and then he had a dog. He had a two rb I double yesterday when they when they beat down the Dodgers yesterday. So but yeah, good for him because we we've talked, We've asked about him a couple times. You know, how's he doing? And he wasn't doing that well. He's a shortstop. He's playing shortstop for for the priorates, not second base. I thought Cruise was playing short he was.

He played shortstop yesterday and all ill type. He's in the lineup today because uh I am watching the game. I do have the game on. But uh, you know I I I thought he was a second baseman. Yeah by trade, I think he is. But they maybe something happened, uh injury wise. Let's see, is he in the lineup today? He is? He's oh today he's playing second base. Uh so yeah, I mean he's he's uh oh, he's batting as we speak. Okay, he's just come. He's just coming to he's just coming up to bat again.

They're down for Sif he's batting three ten, three homers, twenty RBIs he's doing really well. I hope he has of eight fifty five and he's just flying to center field. So he's out. Get out of here, go sit down. Okay, that great conversation. We'll move on to the ghetto. All right, all right, let's get out of here. Let's move on. We got to Sean McNeil speaking of baseball. He's the manager of the local pro baseball team, the tu st Suorrows. They play out at

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this. How many years have you been the manager. I've been the manager Tuson since twenty twenty. I know that's during COVID, so I guess I've been physically managing Tucson since twenty twenty one. So you've done very well. I think you've won a title or two in that time. Yes, yes, I have. Okay, okay, so well I'm looking at you. Guys have won well, you've won two, right, you said to the manager of twenty twenty, So twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. There was

also a league championship in twenty sixteen. Tell us about the league that you know, the level of play, the quality of the play, the places that you guys play. Just fell us in a little bit about about all of this, because I think it's sort of an, I don't know, under the radar kind of thing here in town. Although you know, I look at some of the pictures from your games, it looks like you got

some decent crowds. Oh. Pagos League is a sixteen team league based in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska. I would say the level of play is probably rookie ball. It's basically a lead to get it. Let guys get an opportunity because you know, back, I want to say, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, somewhere around COVID time, MLB got rid of twenty rounds for the draft. So there's a lot of players that can play that aren't getting the

opportunity that they deserve, and this league gives them that opportunity. So you've been around it a long time. Are how many guys in your time here or even before have been able to kind of move up in organizations. For us, we're a league where we get you into a higher independent league, one of the MLB Partners League. But I would say I had to give you a round number forty. But we did have a player that played in

twenty twenty one and he made it to after playing with me. He made it to a higher league and then ended up playing in the Patres organization. So and these guys have to be just guys that love baball right. I mean they're good, but you know they play for the love of the game. They still want the opportunity, the dream or whatever that might be. But mostly it's got to be they just love playing baseball. Yeah, But there like there are guys that you know, deserve to get a look to

play the league. I mean, if you ever heard of the name here and Mercedes, he was the guy that started out in this league and without this league he probably would have never made it and played in the White for the White Sox a couple of years ago. Yeah, right, have you had a player like that? Maybe not to that degree, but someone that you saw that was special, and I'm sure you have contacts you can kind of say, hey, I got a guy. You know, you just

got to keep looking at him. Oh, of course, of course. Like I said, the picture that played for me that made it the the Padres organization before he played for me, the highest level baseball he ever played with Division two baseball? And how old was he or is he? I think now he might be like twenty five? Okay, so the young guy.

Yeah, young guys, you know, guys that just get overlooked, right, Like for example, the kid that played double A with the Padres, he just went to a school that no one ever heard of, right, it was called Upper Iowa University. No one's ever heard of that school. But without the Pekas League and giving these guys this opportunity, that guy would have been done baseball working at some nonprofit because I think he works there on the off season and no one, no one would have ever heard of

his name before. I think one of the things that correct me if I'm wrong. I think you used to play at the auxiliary stadium or field way back, and now you're now in the big, big stadium. Is that correct? Uh? No, actually so. So in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen they played at in Pinot Stadium in the stadium, okay. Then we ended up moving in twenty seventeen, I believe at Cherry Field, okay, or

maybe twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, excuse me, cherry Field. Then COVID happened, and then twenty twenty one we played at Anti High School, and then in twenty two till now we're back in Kino Stadium. All right, okay, all right, well good, but I mean it's a great venue and got sure, sure it needs to be you sure, That's why I said it's a great place to play. To be honest with you, I enjoy it. I'm sure the fans enjoy it. Well, I know my

players really enjoy it, like they get all excited. I know the other team gets excited playing at the stadium. Well, let me tell you this because I know some people back home. I'm from Santa Fe in New Mexico, and I know the venue you played it. I played it growing up in high school and beyond. So I'm sure the people who are in the league probably don't play as You're kind of like your place very often. Yeah, no, that would be correct. I mean you have our field.

You might have another field, like two other fields that are similar to ours, not as good as you know, but yeah, the field you're referring to back in Santa Fe. If they came here, they would I think we would have to postpone the game a little bit just so they can take pictures, great analogies. I wanted to it so so as the as the manager of a team like this, where you're kind of you know, trying to get these guys to you know, to the Promised Land or wherever.

You want to say that, you know, what's the what's the most satisfying thing for you? Uh, being a being a manager of these guys in terms of again, I know it's hard to get guys that you get them the opportunities, but just managing this team, what's in it for you? Yes, I would say just the fact of like seeing them progress. I mean I just like helping people Like Tess. You could say, I guess

when I'm long and you know time passes, I'm passed away. Like those guys are younger than I am, so you know they might talk back like, hey, Sean McNeil helped me get here, and what the hell am I was an I would never had this opportunity. I guess that's what it's for me. You know. Well, one of the things that impresses me now after talking to you, because you've been here a while, you've won a couple of titles. Uh. This is a league where it's surely transitory.

You play for one team or you play for another team, and you move around you haven't uh and and players are kind of just finding the spot. So I don't move around. Because I enjoyed Tucson a lot. I think it also helps that. I guess you could practically call her my wife because we've been together forever. But she's from Tucson originally, so like what the pride that she has with Tucson. I guess you know, I inherit

that, So like I want tuson the win. I enjoyed Tucson. I love the city, so like, if the team's here, I want to be here. Yeah, Okay, we're talking to Sean McNeil, manager of the Tucson Sorrows. The Dependent Pacos League baseball tune that plays down at three time champion, three time champion that plays down at at Keno Stadium. I want to call it too sound like your park because I haven't named that Sean.

But anyways, but you know, being being out there getting fans to come to the games, Uh, what what kind of work do you guys need to do to do that? Who comes to your games? I would say, just you know, like your average fran, maybe a fans in the U of A that knows about the Two Sansorrows. I know this league is not very well known, but it's it's basically a word of mouth league in the sense of like the fans knowing about it. So being on the radio helps us, just like letting you guys know, like, hey,

there's a there's a professional team out here. But I mean just promotions and everything and players being out and about maybe seeing our our logo and just like hey, what's what's that? You know, like and then player maybe a player might say like, hey, this is what this is? The Two Sans the professional team here, but yeah, just wear them out and being on the radio and everything helps a ton, or being in the newspaper or the news. Right, So so we just go back to Santa Fe.

It's a small town, you know, seventy thousand people, so people know who they are because it's it's they get coverage a little and it's, uh, you know, what do you want to do. Let's go to the ballpark and watch the game here. He's exactly right. It's it's tough to get the word out. But but you do have a you do have something. It's kind of a hidden something. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely a hidden gym. You know, if you enjoyed baseball, it's something to

come and watch. And you know, unfortunately, I know the U of A got knocked out and I'm hurting with you guys as well, because i mean I'm a U of A fan. Yeah, but but I mean it's something like if you i mean, something to pass the time to watch baseball, you know, it's it's something to do because I mean, I know, the Diamondbacks are about two hours away, so if you don't want to take that two hour drive up, two hour drive back, it's you can

watch some professional baseball, see guys. And it's a little more interactive than what it would be with an MLB game, just because you know, you can get close to the field and it's something to you know, definitely enjoy and watch you know your hometown wins. How can people go to the games? Is it free? Does it cost? Is it kind of like a regular baseball game? Because it is a kind of a cozy situation. So I would say it's kind of a regular baseball game. It's not free,

even have to pay. I think the tickets are like ten to twelve dollars. I think for kids under a certain age it's free. Kids will be able to run the field as well, you know, and then like fans are able to get pretty close to the dugout and actually talk to the players. I know there's a few that do that. We actually have one fan after the game. She actually provides us with pookies every every time. Wow.

Okay, all right, so you can get pretty close. If that If that helps give you an idea how close you can get the player? Well, I think I think I'm sure they do this with you guys, because they do another other place is uh they have the players stay with host families, right, yes, yes, so for us, we we have host families because the players are all over the country. I mean to kind of give me an idea with that, Like we have a couple of guys

from North Carolina. We have guys from the Bay Area, we have guys from Japan, so we definitely need host like host families. But well, but we also you know, that's how we are able to have a team here by the people providing this place so they can sleep, they can shower, they can do their laundry, you know. So so that way I can build a team to win championships, because without them there, there's there's no team. To be honest with you, yep. So I just got

texted a question. You know, somebody comes out to the game where you know, concessions open and all that kind of stuff. I mean, is that that kind of an atmosphere? Yes, yeah, so confessions are open. I believe tonight is dollar beer night, honest with you. Okay, okay, I believe that's every Thursday, thirsty thursdays over there. All right, there we go. So you how long have you been in the league?

Not so much of me as a manager, but in the league, oh, the league, I would say since twenty twenty fifteen, like like the lie twenty fifteen and now as a player, which is and as a manager, which is twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen. I was a player, and then twenty seventeen, I took on that role as a manager, but for a different team. Perfect for my question because you've probably seen the league evolve and improve dramatically. Yes, yes, I've seen. I've seen the

league definitely get better. I've seen the league grow because I believe when I was a player, it was a ten team league and now they've had it six teams. When I was a player, there was no California teams. I believe there are six now. And also when I was a player, there was no Nebraska team, less Texas teams. So the lead's been growing to give more players opportunities. Like I said, with the draft and eliminate or twenty rounds getting eliminated. It definitely helps the league in a sense of

we need to grow, so we've the more opportunity to players. But the town has definitely risen since I was a player. All Right, all right, So I'm looking at your schedule. You've got you played what about fifty games, right, and you're you're a couple of weeks into it. I'm looking at your schedule. I see seven Thursdays, so that's seven dollars beer nights coming up between now and the end of July seven o'clock at at the King at Keno Stadium. Sowarros Baseball dot com is your website, so if

you want to go and get some information, there you go. Unless that was your first home game right now the season. Couple of nights ago, yeah, two nights ago. One won the home opener, so we're one in one right now at home. This is game three. Hopefully we won the rubber match. I think we have a good chance. We have a great, h great pitcher pitching tonight. Actually kind of a local guy from

Douglis, Arizona, also played a little bit in the Mexican League. Okay, you know this is a group of people from all over the country. This is great and in the world actually because uh there's guys like you said, who love the game, who maybe want to get a look still and you you must. What do you do on the side, Do you have like a real job? You must? I used I used to actually, and back in our I used to work in the mortgage engine and excuse me,

the mortgage industry where I was the s per specialist. I would make sure that if you had private mortgage insurance that that would get paid on time for the for the providers. And actually my old company is based in New Jersey, but we have a we have an office in Phoenix. Okay, yeah, see so these guys, you know, this is this is what we're talking about. This is not the major leagues. It's people who love to do it for for for the love of the game. Right yeah,

Well thanks coach, appreciate it, appreciate it. Sean, best of luck, and we'll try and keep an eye on you. Perfect. Thank you, and I appreciate all the help in the If I had to say one last thing, if there's anybody interested in hosting any other players, please please let us know. You can reach out to Laura Martin, or you could just come to the game, find somebody that works there and you can they can direct you to Laura. Okay, all right, that's great. All

right, so you sure thanks much, appreciate it, welcome. Yeah, it's it's very grassroots right bottom. Well, you know, I think it's similar to what you know, what you're seeing, like with you know, the Sugar Skulls. You know, they was kind of like you know, these guys come in, they play, they find a way to support you know, to get support. They need support for the community. Yeah, you know, and that's what sugar skulls do, you know by in terms

of getting meals and things like that. And you know, it's pro basic. This is dudes with jobs. Yeah, this is pro baseball. These guys, I'm sure they have to work during the day and they play ball at night. Right, So there you go, all right, that was good, that was fun. All right, So stick around. We're going to be back. We'll take your calls five to two zero four, one sixty. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful

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Sports fourteen to fifteen. Hey, welcome back to annabal here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jenckensaus. Got our gun, mister Ryan, fourteen minutes that if you want to give us a call five two zero for one six seventy four forty. I know we stirred the juices of a couple of people with our with our paying the kids, Yeah should they shouldn't we? How much do you get paid? Blah blah blah. I got a couple of emails from some people. If you want to call,

I encourage you five two forty. Well, it's it's an interesting and a tough conversation. Oh god, Nick, Nick Gonzalez just went yard against the Dodgers to a run homer to tie the game for all of the s bottom of he's a big dude. Not he looks bigger. He's grown up, right, Uh, he's a finished Yeah. Yeah, he's bad against Walker Buehler, the Dodgers, great, really good Dodger pitchers coming out picture coming off of arm surgery. Filed off about eight pitches and then took him yard

to left field with a runner on pit from Pittsburgh. Oh, he got a pitch up and he just jumped all over it. That's four homers for him, four homers, twenty two r beyond and a few games. Yeah, twenty some games. Yeah, in like twenty four games or something like that. Ye, damn it. Can I say damn it? You just did I did twice and we didn't have to hit the butt. But it's yeah, it's uh, it's uh okay, okay. What else going on?

Anything else? So we talk about that if you want pay per play, the Hurly situation and uh oh he is gonna have a press commerce here next next week. Yeah, talk about her her final recruiting class and Tommy's playing and then Tommy's playing in the under eighteen. I think it's right right in Argentina, right. Uh So it's kind of quiet. We we've gone

through this a few times already, right together for the summer months. Our best year was COVID because nobody was working and they got plenty of time to talk on the radio. Yeah, but we're working on some good stuff. Yeah. You know last week we wanted to uh get Roxy Bernstein on, you know, right after the Pac twelve baseball tournament was over. Then his his you know, close friend Bill Walton passed away. So but talked, uh talked to Roxy today and I think we're gonna get him on some time

next week. So you know, we got we got guys. You had Kerr on, you know, a bit of go, We had Frey Francona, guys that have been on with us before. We'll keep going on. And if you missed it, where can they go? Oh, you can go to our podcast. You can find it on the iHeart website iHeartRadio dot com. You can go to Spotify and you've caught up and I've kind of

them all up home. You can also go to uh. You can also go to uh uh you got to call and accidentally answered it, and you can go to Apple Podcasts, So all the podcasts from last week when I wasn't in are up, so they're easy to find. And if they wanted to go for Kerr, let's say Kerr, do they google the name curve? Yeah, yeah, you can. You can go to a search you can you can search for the one for Steve Kerr. Uh uh. You

know, you can search for the best places. The is the I hear website because you you know, you can go to our our paget Eye on the Ball, searche Eye on the Ball. You go to the page there and you can find out you know, you can check when Kerr or what Kerr anybody else has been on the show. Okay, cool, cool, I got to send a hoad Rubino his segment, and I old Matt Radelson had been looking to get those because you want to put them on his his

social So yeah, and you know and say that thing. If you go, if you go to the R Heart website, you can download the show and you can you know, if you're if you're on the show, you can put it on your website or whatever. Yeah, okay, super we got about ten minutes, eleven minutes. Again, if you want to call five, two oh four, one, six, seventy four, forty game tonight women's softball and then the men's basketball with the NBA going on as well,

and then WNBA and all that stuff. The rest of the stuff is kind of subsided a little with the NBA WNBA. I'm sorry. Yeah, with all the noise that was there, there was, but you know, geeno Orim had some interesting stuff to say about that today. Again gino Ari, I'm the great coach from Connecticut, would win the championship every year, still one of the great coaches, just signed a new five year deal to keep to keep coaching. But he talked about and look he said, he

said kind of what I said. He said, Look, Caitlin Clark is coming in and you know, she's getting all the attention and there's expectations of her. She's a rookie, no matter what you say, she's a rookie, and she's you know, she's not physical enough for the game yet she's going to get bounced around. And he said, now he said what I said. Yes, he said, the hard file going down the lane for you're not going to get a free pass. What that what that one player

did by just going up and knocking her down away from a play. That's unacceptable. But you know, she's got to expect she's going to get trash talk, she's going to get you know, people are going to make it hard on her. But if they do it in the context of the game, that's part of the game, and that's you know, that's what we talked about yesterday, and there's nothing wrong with that, Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But it's when somebody targets you, you know, with a cheap

shot, that's not that's not what's that's not acceptable. So that's what I was saying about what that what that player did to her that that one time, and then you know, they got to have your back. But he said, look, he said, it's gonna be hard on it. And there's nothing wrong with it being hard, and there's nothing wrong with other players making it hard on her. Sure, there's nothing wrong with that, and I agree with that. But what's wrong is what happened in that game that

got that went. Did you see I guess the Chicago Sky was going to a game I can't don't remember where, just having history and there was a fan that was got too close to the team. Did you have that need to have that, and I guess the security had to come in and get him removed because he was he was kind of like stalking the person can forget her name, the one who blindsided came to Clark, so you know again, and there's there's no place for that either. Of course, there's no

place for that either. She shouldn't have to that, but you know what, don't do those things and people won't come after you like that. So you know that that's not that's a little bit on her. But we're a nut job kind of society anyways when it comes to stuff like that, that's

just stupid, you know. So and then you know, and then you have you know, Pat McAfee and what he said, you know, on his show, and it's like, come on, guys, we have to just be a little bit better than that, right right, So we'll see, we'll see, we'll all get better from well, okay, one more thing I saw the Angel Reese came out and said, you know, we're really good, you know, we're really good players and people want to see

us too. And then somebody posted the attendance. Saw that. Someone said that to me, Yeah, that that you know, they're getting seventeen thousand when Kayln Clark is there and they're getting five six thousand, when she's not so angel you need to Why don't you just accept the fact that she's helping your league and she's helping you. Why don't you just accept that instead of fighting. There's so many of these these players. Are I need it?

They're they're they're resenting it, and that's that's that's the problem, right, And there's some curiosity looks as well, uh for the reces and all that, and that's and that's to be expected. Let me ask you, would you drive up to Phoenix to watch your play? No? If I had a no, you're asking the wrong person. But if I had a little girl, who's who's interest? Yeah? Of course? Okay? But but if they played where you sit today, if they played, if they played

here, I would. If they play if you got a credential, would you buy a ticket here? Uh? But probably if they played here? Yeah, yeah, I think I would, just out of curiosity. Let's say let's say you know, the Phoenix Mercury came and played a game against against Indiana here, Michale, would you go to that game as a fan? That's a good question because I can easily say sure, of course, Jay, but I think I would just because uh I did it. But

let me tell you something. This is how interested I am, and this is kind of foolish, but I'm gonna do it be because I collect this crap that you talk about with this T shirts. You know, I have a bunch of crap T shirts. Not crap T shirts, but just different T shirts. Uh So, one of our listeners, and we know who is, he's in Indianapolis. He's getting he's getting a Clark shirt. I said, give me one. I want one. Yeah, because I'll wear

it just because it's interesting. It's a talker. Would I wear it once? Yeah, of course. Would I wear it twice? I don't know, but you know, yeah, why not. I'd make fun of you. That's fine. It's it's called Tuesday, it's called Wednesday. What do you have on right now? No? I wear it and people say, hey, coo, where'd you get that shirt? Well? I got it from somebody. See that. And that's the thing of it, Steve, is that And it's not just it's each it's each person's thing. Sure,

of course, it's each person's thing. You you you you take this in the way you want to take it in, sure, and guess what your answering. It's like Vic called yesterday about the playing all your there's no right or wrong answer, right, No, that's my answer was right, And here's this wrong. That's part of the problem. What you say is your

deal, right, and how you live your life. Okay, good for you, and it's move on and it's respecting sure of course, right, And so it's respecting the fact that she's getting all this attention and it's helping you, and it's helping your league. Just accept that and play with it and go with it. Yeah, I've known too many athletes very good ideas are resentful or you didn't you didn't pay your dues, you didn't do this, and all that stuff. But you know, hey, life's not fair.

It's just not make the most of it. Yeah, sure, right, make the most of it in your way. Yeah, as you lift me up, thank me too, because you wouldn't be doing you wouldn't be in front of seventeen thousand people. All right, Off topic, I'm looking at the I'm looking at the Dodgers box score right now. I told you I made this, I made this bet yesterday I had bets Otani Freddie Freeman in Tiasca. Her name is all getting a base hit just five dollars partlay,

and one of them, Bets didn't get one. We're in the third inning. All four of those guys have a base hit. Kill d it just you know if you would have done it today, it wouldn't be happy. Yeah, okay, Well the Celtics are in trouble then, I know that's you're upset with me. Brian's raising his hand, he's he's he's excited with his T shirt. You have a T shirt on under your T shirt? Do you? I got my my jersey underneath of Mavericks jersey? Yeah, lift up your shirt. I won't see that he does. Twelve.

You want to keep and Clark shirt. He's got a Mavericks jersey on under his masverage. Are you we final shirt? The weren't long SUTs regular? Wait? Is that a Mavericks hat? Turnaround? It's the finals hat? Yeah? Oh you got the hat too? Why not? That costs you about one hundred and twenty dollars not gonna cash. That's right, that's funny, that's cool. You're twelve, really twelve? You know? I love your enthusiasm and loyalty. I really do. Now it's a little bits guided

that it's the Mavericks, but I'm good. No, you know what's one hundred and ten out there? You get two shirts and the day it's gonna be a little roasty out there. You have a dog. You have a dog? A dog? Okay, I was gonna say, what's its name? Yeah, Madame, that's a good Luca. No, no, I asked him during the show. Do you have a go? He said, no, No, I know why I spend money on this. Just keep doing that. You're better off. Don't listen to him and stuff like that.

I told you that, don't listen to him. That's funny. You know. I'm happy for you, but I'm not rooting for you tonight. That's all that's right, you know, honestly, I just I wanted to be a good series. He's like, I want to that's what I want. Yeah, you'd hate You don't want to see your team just get blown out and swept or whatever. You want it to be a good series. You want you're the underdog. I mean, you know, you want to feel like, Okay, we have a chance. That's what you want.

Yeah. I mean it's like just like with any other sport. I mean I want to sit down and watch it and yeah, enjoy it, be like, hey, it's a good series. Yeah if if who would have thought they would have got to this point in the first place? What's what's four fifth or four fifth five? I mean, like so they were first place for like two weeks starting the season and then they kind of fell off and you know, they were hovering around five hundred before they made those traits.

Do you pay attention to them, you know, a serious this year? So do you think and as I watched Jason Kidd and we've seen him forever, right, right, do you think he's a good coach? Is he one of the reasons why they're doing this? I mean I think he's a really good coach. I mean, who was a Rick Carlisle before that? Yeah, he was a really good coach too. And I was sad to see him go because he is a good coach. He's a good coach. I mean he won a championship, he took the twenty eleven championship and

the kid, Yeah, kid's a good coach. I hope he six a round for Yeah, I guess he found his he found his uh, his team, his niche and maybe you know, and maybe it's Jason Kidd that has made Kyrie Irving be not a pain in the ass, but you know, an asset to the team that that helped come to the championship. Right.

I mean, we'll see because look, those things are hard, right and because the way they talk about when Steve Kerr took over the Golden State Warriors and how uh kind of messed up that team wasn't Mark Jackson couldn't get them to win went in there with the same players and wins all these championships. Well, that's that's the fun. You know, there's certain guys that can do that. We have no very little time. But I remember five six years ago, one of the guys that friendly with he says, oh,

I could have gone in there and just coached those guys. No, you couldn't. He couldn't if somebody else already had it. Personalities, you know how difficult it is to coach. He goes like that. Yeah, and now it looks you know that they kind of blew up the way, you know, and now it's it's it's hard again. You know, we'll dream on green with well with uh. We talked to him two weeks ago.

Yeah, we talked about it. I mean, it's it's tough, it's it's not easy to do. He would rather be coaching right now, but he's not. He's not, and that's the way it goes. Okay, man, Okay, good day. Thanks Ryan, nice job on the board. Appreciate it. Thank you for our guests for being here. Good luck, and we'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna talk some horse racing tomorrow with d

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