This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jazalz Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R two sag at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody, welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakinsaus got our guy Ryan with us today. All I have to say is I'm glad for the guy who invented AC amen for the woman whoever wey you want.
Those guys who work for air conditioning companies are working very hard right now, and they're they're out in the sun and they're very busy. They're very busy, very busy, very busy. Card job security well, you know, yeah, but then what are you doing the winter? Uh work on HVAC had a lot of money. Hey, welcome everybody. Welcome to Thursday edition. Thursday's edition of Eye on the Ball of NBA tonight. Yep, finally the uh you know, it's been a while since we've seen some basketball,
so oh good. I don't even say who you going to win because I don't want to hear it. For obvious reasons I don't want to do the jinx me. Yeah. Well, okay, then we have our guy Ryan with his Dallas Mavericks shirt on. Oh I didn't even notice, right, I guess you just get it. I actually got it yesterday. Oh it's it's like the NBA Finals shirt. You can still see the wrinkles in it. Okay, okay, okay, what see. I I've always hesitated to
get I mean, I'm saying it right now. Right, I got a College World Series shirt on from twenty twenty one, but that it was a gift. I hesitate to get that until they win the championship because you know, I don't want to get a finals shirt and then have them lose the finals. Then I don't feel like wearing the shirt. Yeah, I mean I understand that I've always done it, though, like if my team's have like won the rents or like the division or something you always trying to get.
So so now you'll spend another thirty five bucks on the championship if they win it, at least probably fifty. Yeah, there's a lot of other stuff that you could buy. Jim preconceives because he can't buy it because eventually if he bets on him or talks about him. You're not gonna win it, so why buy it? But like I don't. I've never bought Dodgers Nation League Champions jersey shirt, right, and if they don't win the World Series, then I don't get a shirt. So that But that's so you
said a lot of money. That's me and the mojo. That's me and the mojo. He's got a figure. But you said that's a good thing. That's a good thing on not on YouTube? Dot what everything flies on YouTube? What the hell not? If you could do it, damn well I could do it. But but no, that's cool. It's cool. I mean you like ordered that immediately and yeah, like like as soon as the game was over. I went on to fanatics and in guyline like I'm
gonna get it right now. Yeah, I mean I I you know, I did that when the when the Dodgers won the World Series in twenty I mean the game had just ended and I was ordering my stuff. I mean, you get you gotta order that pretty quick if you're going to yeah, because it goes Yeah, its win tonight, I hope. So that doesn't answer the question. I took the Celtics they're gonna win tonight. He just took the Celtics. You're guaranteed to win. It's gonna be it's gonna be
a very close. It should be a fun series. Yeah, because two Boston is a very good team and Dallas has played very well with two fantastic players. And here's the here's the thing. My colleague here or my partner here, Uh you who would you think is gonna win the series? Before I go here? I think Celtics. Okay, okay uh. And not because of the obvious, but a year or two ago when the trade was made with Kyrie, yeah, you don't want him. I didn't like it.
I still don't like I don't like kyriev and I think he's bad for most every team he's been on. I'm a little surprised that you know that they're here because because that he he helped get him here, they found the way to go exist. Yeah. No, I I'm not a fan of Kyrie Irving. I think he's he's one of those guys that can that can
direct the locker room record team. But you know, somebody said, maybe it was just the fit that that you know, that he needed, and and that and that the Mavericks needed because you know, a lot of the places he's been it's just not worked out, you know that. So you know, good, good for him, good for the Mavericks. But I'm
taking the Celtics. You know. I was worried about that too when they got him, because I was like, he really gonna mess with Luca exactly, you know, the players they had at the time, And I was worried about that. You know, I'm glad that he's he's worked out, and what the what's the dynamic with Horsingus and and uh and uh the guard I can't want to say his name. No, no, with the Dallas they shipped him, was there some chemistry issues? Okay? And I don't
remember. It was kind of it was kind of strange how I saw. I didn't listen to it, but I was leaving and they brought the dynamic with Porzingis. Yeah. What I remember from Porzingis was he just he got injured a lot. Yeah, and he's like he was really good for Dallas when he was on the court, but he just he got injured. So there was no chemistry issues with I don't think him the rest Okay, Well, I don't care if he plays or not, because he obviously he's a
heck of a player. But they've done well without him. Do they need him? I guess we'll see. Yeah, you know, I here's the thing. I think it's gouna be a really good series for a brief moment, For a brief moment, I entertained the idea of that since I think
the Celtics are gonna win taking Celtics money line. But on the money line today the Celtics minus two thirty or something like that, And so if they don't win it in say five games, you're gonna lose money, right if if, if, if the MAVs even win two games, and you're betting the same amount, you're gonna you're not gonna win daily Yeah, on every game? Oh yeah, okay, yeah no, yeah, you don't want to do that. Yeah, yeah, no, I thought you said for
the series. I actually took him at that number two thirty. And it's not it's gonna get you what twenty It's gonna get you a little more than half. If you bet twenty five bucks, you'll win fifteen. Yeah, it's it's it's a simple. I thought that Boston is the best team. We'll see if that's I teased. I teased the points spread down to two and a half's six and a half, right from six from six and a
half two, which is what's that? I got minus one ninety on that and then I and then I parlayed it with the under that's what I've got just for ten bucks. You know, Dallas, I used to live there before I got here. Uh senor uh Dallas. There's a great meme on the internet because the uh the Rangers, Yeah, the one the cockey team start that was done well. Uh, there's another team that's done well. I can't remember which one it is. Uh, there's a team well,
no, so two teams. And now now you've got the Mavericks in the finals and they're saying, okay, Cowboys, what the hell happened? And you give it. They're they're your Dallas Cowby, they're your Dodgers. I mean, I talk about this all the time. I was with some Cowboy fans over the weekend. I set them straight and they're like, why are you so negative? I said, I'm just telling you the truth. They've sucked since nineteen ninety five. It's been a while. Yeah, you know.
Yeah, what am I supposed to do? Change the facts? And I used to be a Cowboy fan. Yeah, but that's the team that's you know, the Cowboys blotty do. Waiting on them to get it going. I don't know if they're going to do it. Those they have so many issues. There's that's a dysfunctional family. Very very good regular season team, but when it comes to the playoffs, they're just Yeah, I think we got so many training call in. I just got a call. Yeah. No, I think I do think it's gonna be a good and fun
series. I really do. I think it's I mean, I guess you know what I'm thinking. Oklahoma City did nothing for me. You know, it's the number one scene. I'm like, they don't look like a championship team. They do not. They just don't got a call record. Let's take this, Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Yes, I'll take uh. Dallas and I'm getting five points. That's that's good. That's a good number. I mean, I think it's gonna be a close game. Dallas and five. Vegas has them six and six and
a half is what I saw. Yeah, I know, but I got my buddy, he's he's pretty cheap, and you ended up being the nice guy. He was trying to give me three and I felt, you know, a couple of choice words, and I said, all right, we'll put the difference in me live. All right, that's the way. I'm Kyrie Irby. By the way. One thing I've noticed he had an interview a while ago. But he's married and he's got a child, and I've watched. I think he really has matured in the last couple of years.
A children have a tendency to mellow you out a little bit. Yeah, if that kid is or the child is under two three years old, that makes sense. Yeah, what makes sense, Absolutely makes sense. Yeah, the big yeah you just like to me, might be three. But you kid too, if you uh, if you had kids, Rick, but I'm sure you do one on a Tuesday night, you should take care of him. Well, you know what, I'm a grandpa and now I'm a great grandpa and guess what, wh she gets to hold them at my discretion.
You've matured because of it, Thank you, Rick, Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, you guys have a good day. It's like that, what do we bet? We bet a football game? Right, where you gave me not even close to what the points spread was, and I took it and you'd still lost when it was one of the game, it's one of your FA football games this last season. It was the USC game or something. Oh yeah, yeah, the spread was like twenty one or something
and he only gave me fourteen something like that. Yeah, you're right, and I'm thinking, how is this happening? And it turned out to be that's the team that we saw. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. I think I remember. I remember getting or giving you a saying, god it, I take him, take him to the clean. I was like, your, holy crap, you're gonna pull this off. Yeah, so you know, Heyrick was a nice guy, and yeah, well let's see and take the four. Let's you know, I didn't feel confident in
the six and a half. It'll be right there. And look, and you know what, I honestly don't care. I don't have any dog in this fight. I'm just betting it because it's the finals and it's fun and the game is gonna come on and I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be a long road here. Like two weeks seeing what's gonna happen? Welcome to the NBA Playoffs. Yeah, pray for my sanity. Well, you know, then tonight they have the World Series obviously the
college World Series. See if Oklahoma wins the fourth straight, which would be again, something else I'm not watching. I saw last night last night was a song when there whatever it was, Texas made a short rally. But you know what, the guy that's done very well, maybe you've get him on the show at some point here as things settled down for the summer is del Conte. Uh, he's a he's a friend. I give him crap
about stuff, but he's turned that Texas. You're friends with him? Yeah, unfortunately, anything anything, you know it well, it's it's in the way I become friends with people. You don't give him crap. It's like we grew he grew up in northern New Mexico. Okay people, Oh yeah, something common with Yeah, yeah, New Mexico. I give him crap because he's he's he was here for a while and and it's two Hispanic dudes
giving each other grief and then going out for a beer. That type of you know, call each other names, you know, bad names, blah, blah blah, we want to go eat Okay, yeah, okay, got it. Okay, So let's have him because he's done a tremendous, tremendous job. Well, he's Texas. I mean, he's arguably the second or third, maybe fourth most powerful person college athletics. And I'll go there
with him, because how is this kid from northern New Mexico small. He's up there with Greg Sanky, He's up there with guys like Greg Burn, you know those kinds of guys. He probably ahead of Greg Burn. Now, I mean he's in Alabama, but Texas, and he's got a lot of sports. He had the best softball team in the country. They're number one in the country, and then swimming when they just stole the Ears and
they and they're buying coaches, they're taking their taking. I mean, he's in a position where he can just say this is this is who I want. Yeah, let's take this call. Hi, you're on the air behind the Ball. Yeah, I wanted piggyback on. Uh uh Steve talking about del Conte and Texas. You know, I listened to I listened to your show and other shows, and I haven't heard much about the women's golf coach leaving. Was it money, greener pastors, change the scenery or are their
issues you can't talk about? Is it the you know, the fluctuations in the athletic department. Do you have any take on that. My guess would be money. Yeah, the assumption when it's when it's a Texas or in an Alabama or something like that, taking your coach, you just make the general assumption that it's it's money and opportunity resources, right without questions. And I say that because when she's a U a grat, she's won a title
or two here right too. She's been here and I was at the golf event that they had a month ago, just built them a great facility. She was almost in tears talking about how important it was to have it, and then someone swooped in. Yeah, yeah, you make the assumption it's money. Well yeah, you know, I kind of assume that, but it just seems odd with all the new facilities and everything that boom she's gone. But it may be a big bark. Yeah, well that's it.
Well, that's it. I mean that that's because they've got she now has this facility that's as good as probably any facility in the country on one of the great golf courses you know, in the area. What else could it be then that that she would leave for except for a hef do you raise in salary? So that Again, we don't know unless it's some underlying issue. Right, nobody knows about her talk No, no, but you you would hear things, yeah, no, And this is this is not a
minor sport. What do you call it? Just a minor sport. Yeah, it's a non revenue sport. But we haven't heard anything. And you usually hear something, especially after they leave here. Well, you didn't know this was going out. We've heard zero. Yeah, it just seems you know, and I understand after seventeen years and money in Austin could be appealing, but uh it, you know, she's done so well and golf has done so well here. Yeah, yeah, no, it's my number one
thing with that, I would think I would think money. Hey, thanks for the call. We do appreciate it. Keep listening. We love you guys listening to us. Thank you. Yeah bye, all right, we got to hit the road, take a break. We're to come back. We don't even talk about our guests, but we've got pat Darcy's going to come in. He's the head of the Peanut County Sports Hall of Fames. We talk to him a little bit about this year's class, and then in
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station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, we'll connect to Eye on the ball here all Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay, and pet is out there somewhere. We had him. We lost him. That was like a drop ball in the outfield. So we'll see, like this is funny, he's going, how did they get in this room? What am I doing here? We had lost him like a fly ball. We'll put that as an error. Yeah, so we'll see if he calls back. We had him there for a second. No, I want to talk
to him obviously we want to talk about the Hall of Fame. He's an instrumental and and and all the guys that go in on women good nice class coming in more educational than anything of the people. Yep, yep, no, you know. And he's he's really done a great job with this, with this Hall of Fame, it's become a big deal, you know for a lot of people. You know, we had uh, Tom dan he on yesterday who got induct Who's getting inducted with this class. Tomorrow We're gonna
have Jerry Gastellum, a longtime referee coach uh in the Tucson community. I made it to the you know all. You know he was a college rep football referee. So you know, guys like that who again are getting recognized for just being involved in this community. Uh, you know, which is a great thing. Let's try to reach out one there and we forgive anybody if they hit this because I texted him he hasn't no, you're here? Path is this you? Yes? Yeah? Me? Don't drop that phone,
don't jump well, I won't. Hey. Welcome to the show, Pat Darcy, uh Pema Hall of Fame, the Sports Hall of Fame. Glad to have you on the show. We've had you on the show before. You must be excited about your new class. Yeah, we do. We're really you know, every year it seem to getting better and better. I think, I think, well, this who's who's going to come next year? And Greg Hanson just started firing our names at her, so well,
you know, this is another good class for us. And every year we've been at the Double Tree at Ree Park now for like ten years, and our attendants goes up from there, so it's it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun, you know, especially we had we've had two teams now, so a lot of these teams come back and they've been gone for like fifteen twenty years and their coach is there and they get to
get to sit together. It's great. It's nice to see that, pat, you know, because we've been you know, I was born here, so you know, I kind of know who all these people are who are going into the Hall of Fame. We're just talking yesterday about how it's not just guys who you know, guys who made it to the major leagues or professional football or whatever. It's people like you know, the day Lopez is
that. You know, we just talk mentioned Jerry Gastellum, uh, Tom Danny, people like that who are just a part of sports in this community. How important is that to you? Guys? And and and you know, how do you how do you? You know? What are you looking for when you're looking for guys like that? I shouldn't say guys. People guys like Jibblemander Whowre high school All city player, thirteen years in the minor leagues, right, you know, you know to ride those buses like that.
Oh man, yeah, and he did it and now you think he works as a scout tour right now. But that's these people that just keep fighting, fighting, and you know, we get we get like we know we're sixty No, you know, people you know sitting as if may applications to be in the Hall of Fame. And that's we have to break that down to twelve with two teams, right, And I want to mention one thing about the Hall of Fame. It was founded in nineteen eighty nine by
a guy named alside Al was a wrestler from New Jersey. Got a scholarship with the University girls and a wrestling scholarship. And he's the one that started the Hall of Fame there. Now, this is something that's really weird. I was at a Red Big Grads reunion about like ten years, eight years ago something like that, and I was sitting with Rolly Eastwood. Raleigh was from New Jersey. I didn't realize that he and Outside wrestled in the state
championship against each other. Wow, it's amazing, And so I got Al was real he was really ill at the time, and I got a hold of him that I had gave Rolling the phone and they started going back. I should have beat you. You should have beat what. He can't see the pet he handed the phone. Al said, Pat, that's the most punt I've had in a long time. So it was nice that way. He passed away. You know, they a week late or something like that.
So you've you've included twelve more people total, how many through the years since nineteen eighty nine. I think right now are around four thirty six something like that, because we've added teams. We just you know, recently, we just started adding teams about six years ago, five six years to my two teams. And that helps out too. It's fun to watch these, you know, the kids, not kids that the older adults come and get to see their former teammates and their coaches. It's a lot of fun that
way. Yeah, so you know, but you know, thinking about some of these people though, like like Dale, like Jerry, you know, who just are involved, and I mean that's such a big deal to this community to have got people like that who've just been around you know, that they get to get to be in this Like I'm not a Hall of Fame athletes, He's not a Hall of Fame athlete, you know, but you know, people like that who just get get a chance to you know,
I don't want to say rebelbows, but just get recognized for the amount of effort they put into this kind of stuff. That's what it's all about. It's all about these people, you know, people that have just battled and battled and you know, made it through the minor leagues or you know, you know colleagues playing there or something like that, but just really worked at it, and they you know, they make it up through the Hall of Fame. So you out of the twelve if you want to just mention the
names, and then you have a banquet in November. I think it is our banquet is in our press conference in October sixteenth. This is at the Double Tree Repark and our is at October sixteen, eleven o'clock. Our banquet is on November seventeenth at twelve thirty at the Double Tree, and anybody can go to the dinner. Correct, Yes, we're going to have that. We don't have the tickets out yet, too early for that, but that'll be coming on soon. We'll have that out there and people can call and
get the tickets. So you mentioned that the number of applications and those kinds of things that you get, nominations and whatnot. How tough is it year to year, you know, to narrow it down to you know, this many people and you know, do the same people keep coming back and saying, you know, this should be my year, this should be my year.
How hard is that? It's tough and we know we just I mean a while back it was like sixteen in the Hall of Fame, eighteen and that we've we now down to twelve with two teams, and that's tough. That we get so many people calling, you know, senate applications dinner and something friend of theirs writing about it, why this person should be in? Yeah, they really want to be and that's what that's Those are the people that battle it and that's yeah, and they should be rewarded too. I'm
assuming I'm assuming correctly. I think you're in it too, aren't you? What year I am? I mean I was in geez that it was like had to be maybe seventy five or something like that. I don't know, a long time ago. Wait wait, wait wait, so I thought you said you started in eighty nine. That's no, no, that's that's after me. But anyway, just like say, does we did our first I
did the first even call it name. It was downtown at the rotting In and they're probably like there must have been like twenty two people there or something like that. So it's going on. It's going on from there. Yeah, but it's a lot of fun. Yeah. So, uh, you know, year to year you're you're getting these folks. What's the process? When do you start the process and how long does it take and who does it? Right? I'm assuming there's some sort of a committee, But what's
the conversation like when you're going through some of these different people. Well, we have you know, people sending information in and then we'll go we'll discuss it. So, like you said last week, like most sixty people you know, sending something in and so we have to go through that list now. Doesn't mean they don't get elected go to the next year. That happens a lot too, But it's just one of these things. There's so many people coming out now that are going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, yeah, no question. So is there is there a special place though? I mean, is it kind of let me ask it this way. You know, you get an Edvsberg, right who? Uh, you know, little League College, you know, maybe World Series. Those those guys are easy. Which ones are the hard ones to decide on? Uh?
Like a like a Kim Olander, maybe a Bob Lacy who wanted to get you know, I know him a little bit of Calabroni and they played in professional baseball for quite a while and he was just when he wasn't getting any he sent me a letter with just a question mark on it. That's good market we get him in there. Questions, Well, that's kind of cool that people really really really want to get in, right, I mean, it's a it's a huge honor for some of it for these people.
Oh, Yeah, definitely. It's it's they want to get in and people you don't realize that tell how much it means to him till they get up there. I'm I'm the Master's sim I'm right next to him when they're giving their talks. You know, they get cherry eye and stuff like that. It's it's it's a it's a special moment. Are you guys modeled after any others like this? You know this is Pima County? Are there other cities, county states? Who? What do they do and where where do you
get some of your ideas about how to do this? Well, you know, we kind of learned as we go along here, you know, the good things we did and some things we didn't do right, stuff like that. But uh, it's you know, it's working. And you know, I said outside started the whole thing. But it's good just getting it's good,
you know, seeing people get them. We had Soorrel High School volleyball about two years ago and almost Hope the whole team was there and they were and their coaches there and I guess they started out and the coach they was okay at Sorrel and the coach said over the summer I was, we're gonna travel around, we're gonna play tough teams. And they got into it and they did. They played and they get it, and you know we're one of the tough teams in Arizona. Yeah no, that you guys do a
great job, a great job. Yeah. Here's what more, here's what it stands out to me. Calleberti football teams they had. They were a bad team, and after their season was over, the players all got together and they signed a contract that they're gonna come, they're gonna work out, they're gotta come to practice, and they ended up they end up in it, winning their position in the state championship. Yeah. Well, well that's you know, that's what you need to have, you know, to have
teams like that. All right, so let let's uh, let let's talk a little bit of baseball, pat, you know how much of you know, I think we've had this conversation, but you know, baseball is changing every day. You're getting guys are making half a billion dollars and stuff like that. You know what's that like for you? Somebody who played, you know, into the mid seventies, so you're like this one, okay, I was good the Lake Joe Morgan and we talk a lot. His first
year in the Major League he made seven thousand, five hundred dollars. Jeez geez. I mean he probably made more per game doing college baseball on ESPN than then than that. That's that's crazy. But you know you said gout like shoy Otani right there. I mean, is nearly a billion dollar, billion dollar ball player over the years. That's got to be mind boggling to you. It's just it's just the money they you know, the money you're
making. And when you go to like some of these you know, like the Reds, you have a yearly thing get together some of the players and some of these guys think it's, you know, no big deal, and it's one of them. You know, it's like we're struggling. They got all this money. They've made all this money, right, So let me ask you, what are your thoughts on the pitch count having been a pitcher, but count not the count, the clock, the clock. It's not
that it's not that I would I don't like. Here's you know, how the umpires, you know, the catchers, the umpires move around too much or they I wouldn't like. You see an outfielder with on his wrist, he yes, where's this here? Very supposed to play this? Hit her? You know they all so they have, They told her everything to do,
and that did We just played? Yeah right, yeah, well okay, you were a picture of what would you think of an electronic strike zone right where it's not the umpire calling the pitches, but there's a little electronic box that somehow tells you whether it's a ball or strike, call the pitches all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let'll tell you a funny story. There's another story. I was pitching that game and uh, it's Cincinnati and the umpire you see me up baseball? I turned. I didn't like
to do it back. So next inning he throws me the same ball again. I said, hey, you used to do this on four I was just testing you. But but would you like that or not? I you know, I just think played, you know, play the game and have everybody you know have all these before their stats, all these things they gotta do. You gotta play this position that and the balls. You know, the balls, man, we used to you know, balls were you could
tell them that all the time. Yea, you know, there there was no big and the balls because the balls could stay in place for two or three innings. Four inns now hit the dirt and they throw it out. Yeah, you're notorious for being part of one of the best teams on UH. Ever with Cincinnati, I'm curious. Were you on a team that was already uh here we are mid June, first first week of June and down
a number of games, like, you know, fourteen fifteen games. How was it to survive a season like that when you when it's like just going to work and it sucks. Yeah, the minor leagues is bad. I played at Houston, had some bad minor league teams, and we've finished last place every year and used to losing. That's not good. You know, in Cincinnati they had a really good minor league. They won most of the
times, and they're guys, all you expected to win. Well, yeah, but it was kind of tough, right Hey, Pat, thanks for joining us. Good luck, good luck, you appreciate it and have fun with that. Well, we'll talk again when the when the event gets closed. I know that the bank was on the river seventeen okay, okay, we'll tell them how to get tickets, all righty man? Thank you,
Pat? By Pat Darcy. Pat Darcy is one of the biggest talking I saies, a part of one of the biggest plays in World Series history. Right right, gave up the gave up the homer to Carlton Fisk in the seventy five Game six, Game six, seventy five World Series. Yeah, I was. I was twelve years old Cincinnati Red fan, and I couldn't sleep that night. Yeah, then they won the day. I hated that year. I was. I was really upset about all of that because I didn't like, say, no, what did you say seventy six? Yea
seventy five because they won again seventy six. I know that too. Sorry, you're just bragging down that last time. All right, thanks to Pat Darcy for joining us. We'll be back right after the break. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolsen era in my new book,
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have fourteen minutes five two zero four one six seventy four forty. We're gonna take something from Ryan Now from breaking news to a big news out of the Los Angeles area. Lakers. Well, yeah, we get up this morning and uh uh Adrian Rojanowski sends out the old WOJ bomb saying that, uh, Danny Danny Hurley is a candidate, not just a candidate, but they're Lakers are looking to hire him. I wonder what I went with the Reddick
thing, because I thought that was pretty much a done deal too. Well, I said, that's that's the big question, is that you know, it seemed like things were getting close to being done, uh with with Raddick, and but it didn't get done, right He's and they and that they're saying that some of that has to do with the fact that that Radick is still working the finals, you know, for TV and stuff. But you know, it didn't get done and has gotten done, And is this why
it hasn't gotten done? So I don't know, well, but I surprised, not surprised. I guess yeah. What it does is it opens up the rest of the college basketball scene to having another or a different championship right this year because they're going to be good, you know, we have to be lucky, good and all that stuff. But they were building a juggie
out over there. Well again, if you if you look at it, if you look at it this way, you think about the fact that if Danny Hurley goes to the Lakers. Now the most recent college football national championship coach and the college basketball named national championship coach both have high tailed it for the pros. And you know, well, what does that say. Does it say, Okay, the money was was you couldn't you know, he couldn't turn down the money? Yes? Does it or does it say coaching
in college sucks? Yes? And well, let me if you remember, because I think you worked, you worked the final four in the press room, right, what was heard he saying that night? He says, I already have to start thinking about the ni l stuff within within this house, right and then going after playing right, well, and that's become a huge
burden. Yeah. And you know at last year's tournament, I was at the regional in Vegas and he actually went on a little bit of a rant at the you know when you know, when they got to the final four, you know, in the postgame press conference after winning the regional, you know, getting ready to go to the Final four, and he went on
a little bit of a rant then about how much it sucks. And he said, here, I am, I've just got my team to the final four, and I have to recruit my team right right, because he said that again, yeah this year. You know, they said that today as they're doing some stuff with with this story, and I'm thinking, Okay, I don't know how many how much money he makes, but I know Timmy Lloyd makes about five million. Yeah, and every coach like him makes about
five million. And I think that's what he's making about. So give me those real world problems, right, is it tough? No question? The problem is that now he's coaching kids who are making a lot of money, will they listen to your coaching? And how much money do you need it to be given? Bags? Yeah, well that's it. You know. I was watching Dan Patrick this morning as this news was breaking, right and as a coincidence, at Gino Orima on his show, Connecticut women's basketball coach
and Orima had a really interesting take. He said, he said, look, we're not college coaches anymore. We're pro coaches now, we're coaching professionals. He said, make no mistake about it. We're not coaching you know, we're not, He says, So why and he's not He said, Look, I'm not encouraging. I'm not trying to get him to leave.
But from where I sit, why would you want to If you're going to be coaching pros, why wouldn't you want to coach pros who know how to be pros as opposed to coaching pros who have no idea what it's like to be a pro perfect. He said, we're not coaching amateurs anymore. These are professional athletes, sure that we are coaching now, So why wouldn't you want to go make some more money and coach pros who are actually pros?
And then you could take some time off once a seasons. Right, you have time off, right, you don't have to you don't have to go out recruiting, you don't have to recruit your team every year, all these other things that he said, But it's he said, make no bones about it. We're not amateur. We're not coaching amateurs anymore. We're coaching professional. How would you handle I know lut would not like it at all.
I'm pretty confidence. How would you like to do this where you're making good money, obviously making let's say five million, and then now you have Killer Love making x amount of money and it's x not a small X amount of money. And then you have other kids making X amount of money and you're trying to make them motivated one of the things. And I'll go to my
deathbed with this. Sean Miller had a hard time motivating eight Trier Alkins, those one and done guys, right, because guess what from September to April when they were here. I'll listen to you when I can, because guess what after the season, I'm bout of here. Honestly, it's a rented player. No, you're you're one hundred percent correct. Now maybe, and
this is this is where I hope that they get this stuff corralled. You know, if it gets to a point where, okay, we're gonna have professional athletes playing college college sports, which means now you're gonna have to have contracts, you're gonna have, you know, to rain all this in where and you can say, okay, if you want to play here, you
gotta sign a three year contract right to play. And if you don't want to sign a three year contract, then you're gonna you're not gonna play here, you know, stuff like that, and and but there's a lot of legal aspects to that. I just saw, you know, a thing today that said that there's this Division one College Athletes Advisory Committee, I think it's what it's called. So it's basically a group that's representing Division one athletes.
They're saying, the athletes do not want to be employees. They're trying to they're trying to do not They're trying to create a system where you can be a college athlete but not and get paid, but not be an employee of the university that's paying you. So what would they be called. I don't know. That's just it. There's nothing like this. This doesn't exist. They have to make it up. They know, they literally have to create
this. I mean, I don't know if it's the US Department of Revenue, the or Treasury Department or the State Department or whoever has to there. They're basically that's what they're saying, we need to create system that's unlike any system that exists, so that these athletes are going to get paid hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars are getting paid by somebody, but they're not an employee of that person or that company or group or university that's paying.
Let me give you a scenario. So you're talking about me signing a three year deal. If I don't like it, I can take it, take it or leave it. Jay, What if I'm a guy that you really really want and I'm a coach, I'm not gonna stay but two years. I'm telling you this right now. But the three year obligation is there now because you need to win or want to win. You got to decide.
You got to decide as a coach, are you selling your soul if that's the right term for this guy that you need for at least a year or two. But you've already said I need you for three years? And then who may get here? It may suck? Yeah, right, I mean, you know, think more. Think about these all the all the five stars that were never any good. No, no, you signed one of those. You signed one of those too, h you know, whatever, whatever your number is at your school, Let's say a half a million dollar
contract. Then they get here and they're not worth ten grand, Well that's the whole thing. And if they're at a point guess what you do? What would happen to you in the real world, Sorry to say, but you're you've been terminated. Yeah, and then or do you do you do you? You know, do you trade your point guard to South Carolina for their point guard? Well? And you know, what do you do there? You know? Can you send somebody somewhere that they don't want to go?
Dude? This this hole is crazy. It is all screw. I hope I don't make sure you have your finger on that button because I could cuss, and I'm cussing in context and that doesn't mean I mean, but I don't envy the coaches. But again, they're not getting away with his cheap too. They have they're making a lot of money through right, so their troubles are being taken care of. But I never imagine this, and I'm I got ten years in this business if that I never thought this would
come to this. No, you know it and it Steven. It kind of happened fast, isn't it very fast? That's why that's why there's no answers. You can't put the toothpaste back in the Yeah, it it as they say, it escalated quickly and everybody got caught off guard and now you've got you've got a situation that's just took completely out of control. And even the solutions that they have are probably not the right solutions, like patchwork solutions.
Every one of them is some sort of a patchwork solution. Okay, this will take care of things for now, but we need a long term solution. Yeah, and then take care of it for now is probably not the right phrase, because you don't know if it's gonna take care of it. I don't envy. I don't envy the new A D any any u A D s because they have to. And we talked about this with with the Rocky and we joke about it with Live and Good and some of the
other ones. They're glad they're not an A D. Right. So now you're getting a little little jagans always is making money on the side with n I L Now U A U A comes back and has to give little jagansawys more money because from from the new twenty million dollars bill. And if I'm a we talked about this with Matt Reynelson and I'm mister mister Levitz, who's giving money to either or I don't need to give it to you anymore. You already get in it from somewhere else. Why would I give you more
money I get, yeah, exactly. And they're saying, because I can go get it somewhere else. So I'm out of here, and now you're gonna lose. I don't know, Steve. Yeah, Well, the good thing is you and I don't have to worry about it. But it's it's a sad situation. Well the thing about it everywhere, But I guess it's it's sad when you compare it to what it was. But on the other hand, you know, the athletes are getting paid now, which they should
have been getting paid long before this. Yeah, And if the change had happened at a reasonable pace, you know, it might have been it might not have been so bad. I don't know if anybody's listening who's an athlete or former athlete, because they're gonna get paid from back in the day too. What would be a reasonable amount to get paid for what they do as a college athlete? As a college athlete twenty five thousand, and you got a bunch of them, not a little a few of them, You got
a bunch of them, you know. I don't know because because because it's gonna Steve, it's always going to be tied to what are you bringing in? Okay? Right? Okay, like like like okay, a car salesman makes money on the cars that he sells. Here, she sells, right, they make the more cars they sell, the bigger, the better cars
they sell, the more money they make. They're bringing in revenue, so therefore they get more of it. Sure, so you got a football player, you know, a quarterback who's helping put fifty thousand people in the seats, Well, how much should they get versus the tennis player who maybe gets forty people at they're at their tennis fan. But if you're okay, I'll give you that example. But I'm I'm mister Geist or I'm Delaney syesright,
and I'm winning national titles. The football players not doing it. Yeah, that we'll see. That's thing. That's the dilemma. That's the dilemma. What what is? What is? What is Jordan guys for Delaney Chanelle Worth compared to Noah Flafida and and and and Tator mcmill. This line in the sand is disappears at times and then it moves at times you know, and maybe you say, Okay, well, okay, Delaney Schanell, go get paid by the Olympic Committee. That's where you get your money from, because
they're the ones who are benefiting from you know, what you're doing. I don't know that I'm just throwing that out. I don't know that that's an answer or even a legitimate answer to any of that. But but again, you know, it goes back to the initial piece of this conversation was that it's making guys like Danny Hurley, making guys like Jim Barba, making guys like Nick saban Uh make life decisions that they do not want to any longer.
Be a part of this true and well, the thing too is they're taking a chance on being good at what they do at the next level. Historically, Jay, it doesn't work well. You've got to be really really good at it, and the guys have to respect you. First of all. It's likely they'll respect Hurly, but it typically doesn't go well for a
coach from the college Branks. Okay, but thank you. Okay, but think about both, Nick, think about what Nick saban right went to the end, went to the NFL sucked after a year came back and when he became you know, Danny Hurley is probably in a similar position. If he goes to the Lakers and it's not very good at it. Who in college basketball is going to not want to take him back? Oh sure, No, no, No, he's got a job for life. Yeah he does. And I if for it this way, If he doesn't take this job,
I think he's crazy. Well, you know what is the one that gave you the reason? Because the funny it was a funny thing. That's part of the conversation. Because he's he said, he said, he goes. I was. I was with him last night. We were at an event last night and I'm sitting next to him. No, he goes, he goes. And I leaned over him and said, so you're taking that Lakers job. And he said, no, I think you should take the Lakers job. And that Hurley just kind of looked at him and out of
his head and didn't say anything. WHOA. Well it didn't come out too He didn't know, he Arima, didn't know that he was talking to the Lakers. It was just a random question. He said, So you think you're gonna take the Lakers job or you know, so like, you know, he said, I think you should take the Lakers job, and and Herey just kind of looked at him and kind of didn't even wink and it
just kind of nodded and didn't say anything. He goes, then I get up this morning and I see this, and I'm like, what the hell. It's like, what are you doing? And here's the thing. They've got the same agent. He mentioned, They've got the same agent, and so even the agent hadn't told Arima that this was going. Then he made another funny point real quick an out of that said, I took less money. He just signed a contract. Okay, did he goes, I took
less money to leave them money to pay to pay. Danny Hurley said, if he takes the Lakers job, I want some of that money back. It was a great car if you if you haven't had chances, you can on social media. You can find that that segment with with Gina Armey. It was really good. I liked him. I had never really seen him talk like I've only no, I've only seen him after after games and stuff. I think you're you know, he made a good point with the kitten
Clark stuff too. If you talked about that as well. It was a big deal. We can talk about later, all right, We got to get out of here, top of the arm. We're gonna come back. Ryan is gonna be here with breaking you so