Thursday, June 22, Hour 2

Dreamy Live, I mean my heart radio whip. This is High on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jaken Zalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. They welcome back to win the boat here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're jakens Os. You know you have the breaking news hopefully this is

high on the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. All right, if they said just the spread of stuff right, nothing super earth shadowing, all the earth shattering, although the couple of a couple of things um big. Another big trade day, Chris Paul is on the move again. Uh. He was traded to the Golden State Warrior Warriors to join Steph Curry over. He was traded for Jordan Pool, who is the guy who um um

Draymond Green punched before the before the season started last year. And in the end a lot of people said that that had a lot to do with why Golden State didn't do any better than they did, just attention from all of that. So Jordan Pool heading over to the Wizards and Chris Paul over the Golden State. I don't know how that's gonna work, but but I'm sure

that the Golden State Warriors would be better, well if Chris Paul. I think it's one of those things that if Chris Paul is willing to accept a role, right Steph Curry's the point if Chris Paul is like, Okay, i'm i'm, i'll, i'll i'll, I'll fill in for him, you know, when he's on when he's on the bench, and i'll you know, compliment him on the side as opposed to trying to be the guy.

If he understands that, then, you know, because Chris Paul is still a good player, and if he doesn't have to play all the minutes, durability might might uh you know, might be better as well. But yeah, so Chris Paul heading over to uh uh uh the Wizards. Funny thing though, so um um. The Athletic posted a press conference when when when Mike Dunleavy was hired as the uh the Warriors GM. In the press conference, he said, we're planning on having Jordan's pool here for four more years

at least. And as this was posted, you know, this happened just a few weeks agoing out he's already gone. So Jordan Poole out and Chris Paul who started the week and UH and was at this time last week was in Phoenix. Now he's not headed from the Wizards over to UM over to UH Golden State. How he found out about that he had been traded that his son, His son texted him while he was on the plane headed somewhere. So so there's that. UM we talked about this just a little bit

um. The ia ARP ruling on which is the Independent Accountability Resolution Process, which is the body that ruled on Arizona's stuff coming out of the FBI investigation, ruled on LSU today. Their former coach, Will Wade got a ten game suspension and then a two year show cause, which I don't know what exactly that means, but it just puts some limits on his recruiting and what not. So he's at mcnee's state now, so he's gonna have a ten

game suspension to start to start the season at mcnee's state. But if this didn't bury LSU or they literally have him on tape talking about buying a player, that Kansas is going to get a slap in the wrist. Yeah, that wouldn't be a surprise as well. But Dan Walk and our our Buddy Um wrote it has a long column again on USA Today and just has the one paragraph that he said, Uh let me, let me fine. He says, once the ia ARP rules on Kansas and based on President President,

we shouldn't expect much actual accountability from the accountability folks. They will be shut down and remembered as the biggest waste of time and money in pretty much three of Ncuba a government pretty much pretty much. Look at all the worrying and all the hand ringing here in this town. Yeah, in this town just just turn out to be a big, as they say, a big nothing burger. So that's so, that's that's what they're kind of, you know, big news. Hey, did you know that they change the way we

vote for the All Star Game? Now have you ever heard? There's the first time I've seen this. So there's there's two phases of voting. So everybody votes for whoever they want, right, and so what they come up with its two finalists at each position, four finalists at like an outfield, and the top two. Now you vote again for one of these two finals Yeah yeah, so so um and then the two in this initial vote in the two top overall vote getters are named starters. So showey Otani on the

American League side, Ronald Lacuney on the National League side. We'll start no matter what happens in this uh, in this UH balloting, but it's it's kind of weird. So now between now and June twenty ninth, UM, now you go vote for the there's two finalists at each position. UH. And and so there's you know, and that and that's where it worked. So UH. On the on the American League side, for instance, UM, there's two catchers, Adlee Rushman of the Orioles Jonaheim of the Rangers.

You've a phone two, I think, and I guess the idea is to you know, now you got to to you know, two the best guys allegedly get the most. Now let's everybody pick between those two guys. I don't really know. I didn't know this was happening, so I haven't had a chance to go back and uh and see when or why they did this. But like Vladgarrow Junior Yandy Diaz of the Rays all right first base for the American League, Marcus Simion of the Rangers, with Mary Field of the

Blue Jays for second base, and and on and on and on. UM in the National League, my favorite Will Smith is one of my favorite players, if not my favorite player with the Dodgers right now the catcher, he's up against Sean Murphy from the Brave, Freddie Freeman of the Dodgers, Matt Olson of the Braves at first base. Um. In the outfield, you've got um, Mookie Bats, Carbyn Carroll, Lord of Discordille from the d Backs, and Michael Harris and the Braves. You get to pick three of

those. You know, one of those guys won't be won't be a starter. So it's just it's it's crazy that that it's done that way. But you can start voting for them today now and uh, you pick one of those two guys at each position. So interesting, all right, UM, kind of a a little of a I don't know if it's a sad story yet, but Kurkkurbstreet reporting that his son was a tight end for a stake, but it's having some heart issues. He'd been on tweeting a lot.

Unless Yeah, so he's out, he's but he's home from the hospital. But they're trying to figure out what, you know, what all this is. He's on medication. Um, they've not even addressed whether or not. Um, you know you'll you'll be able to continue playing football or not. But he's got some kind of a hard issue. It's zach herb Street. Who's who's you know going home? And you know he's he's been with a

high States as see what happens there. Kind of a tough deal. Um, let's see, Oh, Arizona's got a new assistant golf coach, Matt Walton joining Arizona from see where he's been. I was gonna look it up to see where's been and then it got pass me. Um he's been at USC. Uh. Yeah, he's been three seasons that assistant to USC's now he's now coming to Tucson to coach for Jim Anderson. Um he's from Uh, he's from England. He went to the University of Cumberland's in England and

he's kind of a young guy. He agreed ten years out of college. So there you go. So Matt Matt Walton as a new assistant coach at at Arizon at Arizona, Oh, Arizona football got a kicker out of the Stars reportal the kid kid out of BYU got by the name of Cash Peterman. He's from Chandler. Uh, he's got three years of eligibility to remaining. And so they've got a new a new kicker in camp and so I don't expect we'll see him this because I think they've got a recurring kicker form

last year. But cash Cash Peterman sounds more like a tight end than a schoolper's name. Though, great name, it's a great name. Um, Deon Sanders, man, have you been reading this stuff? Surgery they've got they found blood clots in his legs. Um, he's gonna have some surgery too, in both legs. He's gonna have some surgery. One of those one of those legs has a His foot is a mess, and he's lost a couple of toes on that foot and they're trying to avoid amputating the whole

foot. But god, you know, who knows what this means health wise, how much he's able to, you know, do the work that he's got to do in his first year at Colorado. But Deon Sanders having some he's having some health issues. M and he's already kind of hobbling. What kind of he is horbling? Yeah? Um, I thought it was something else. But yeah, yeah, it's not gonna look good. Nothing looking good. Nah, that looks it looks really scary and really really scary.

Um okay, um, I have one Okay, Kioto Pinder will be with the Suns. Oh yeah, saw that he had a good a good time in Australia where he's from. All we're talking about basketball, Okay. I mentioned this to you on off off air. In the last couple of days, I've seen Victor Webbon Yama. Let's seven foot three, seven foot four and seven foot five. I'm like, okay, I get it. I get that he's tall, but we can't narrow it down to less than, you know, within a couple of inches. I mean, how tall is

he? Which one have you seen? More? You know, seven four? I think seven four? But seven four, seven three seven? What the hell? Once it's one hundred and ten degrees, it's it's one hundred and ten degrees, whether it's one hundred nine hundred and eight, yeah, they say we're not gonna know. We're not gonna know for sure. Um uh, you know, until he goes to camp and they actually do a measurement. But I don't know what he is, all right, Um,

here's an interesting one because this came up. This came up, and when the liv golf thing with the PGA, with the with the Saudi's you know, buying into the PJA and stuff like that, is a quatar or a cutter I think it's actually pronounced cutter. The the country right there, in their investment authority, which is similar to the one that the Saudi's have, is looking at buying a five percent stake of the company of the parent company of the of the Wizards Capitals and the mystics of the w NBA. So

it's believed to be the first time. Um, you know, the government of Qatar, I guess is investing, is looking at investing in US professional sports. And I do know that that Um what's his name? Um? The NBA commissioner, Yeah, h Adams said that that when when he was asked if the Saudi Arabians through their investment authority would be able to buy an NBA team, he said, an individual, a person. It can't be

like, you know, a fund can't buy an NBA team. It has to be you know, an individual who's got you know, then an individual that runs that's it, you know, So they do they go hire somebody to do that. But anyways, all right, Uh finally, Steve, where are we have a sick gambling society? No? Really? Yeah? So there's been some back and forth on social media between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg to rich people problems too rich guys about having a cage fight. Oh,

that'd be fun, and apparently odds have been posted. I would take uh uh Zuckerberg and the other guy and elm oh Elon Musk Oh, I thought it was the Amazon guy. Uh yeah, but a basis isn't shape which I would have taken. I would have taken be taken Beazil. Yeah, and then he's a day what's her name? Uh, sanitez gro Um. I'm taking the Zuckerberg. Okay, Zuckerberg is minus one six, he's the favorite. He's the favor. I would take that one. And Musk

is plus one for yeah, I'm not sure he's yeah. Why why would you watch that? No? No, but I watched the Twitter highlights. Could be very quick. I kind of like to see these guys just beat the hell out of each other, right right, No winner in the draw, let's put him in a sup No, that was me. I'm sorry, you're going to hell, you know what, maybe even tonight, maybe

tonight. But anyway, so there's the odds aren't official, they're just Draft Kings has has quoted some odds and you can't go on Draft Kings and sure, but as they say, there are for conversational or informational purposes only. Okay, are you done? So let me I was just going to the NBA Draft getting ready for tonight, which I you know, no reason to uh. She in the last ten years, Solomon Hill, right, yeah,

I think I don't know if he's still in the league. I don't if he made me twenty three, Aaron Gordon, we talked about him. Stanley Johnson still, Ronde Hillis, Jefferson, uh Lorie Marketing, Dean john Eden, Josh Green, Zeke Nagy right of the last few now, Ben Mathurin and I think that's about and uh and uh India the guard. Yeah yeah, yeah, he wasn't drafted. But yeah, that guy, he didn't get drafted. No, um no, no, this is our first

round picks, first round picks. Ok So so all those run Day who was just drafted eight years ago has been at the league for for a few years. Yeah, yeah, so you know he didn't last long. You gotta score in that league, you know, as much as you defend, right, yeah, I mean every time about while he's a great defender. Well, yeah, you gotta score. You gotta be on the board. And that's why you know, Aaron Gordon has begun to do that, and that's why he is stock is rising, you know, quite a bit as

a possible NBA all started out. Yeah, so no, gotta you gotta put the ball in the hole, man, And and if you don't, they'll find somebody else who can do what you do and score without question. Right, But I was looking at a story by uh Was or by Bruce Pasco. No, if Arizona doesn't get anybody drafted, which it's unlikely with the zoolosno, probably I can get drafted. This would be the third year in the last five that Arizona didn't get It makes sense, total makes sense.

Yeah, it's uh not good for blue Blood, you know, and man I uh well I have changed, you know, but we'll see ye. All right, let's take our breakwhen come back, and we'll have um um um um um Kurt Kurt Kenny Chug come and talk about what's going on with San Diego State getting into the back twelve, We'll be right back.

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here on Fox Sports sporteen. Kokie, I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jakins. Also now on the phone, we have Kirk Kenny in the San Diego Union Tribune. How are you, Kirk? Good? Well, guys, thanks for having me. You must be a busy man. Yeah, are you having fun? Well? This is usually this is our slow time, Junior, usually the most downtime I have before things are cranking up in July with

football ramping up? Do you dare take some time off for you know, not knowing if this thing's gonna happen any day or what you do, it will, right. It's like if you go away from your phone or from your laptop for a couple hours, that's immediately when something goes goes on, right, Right, So, how how's it gone? And what's the latest? Yeah, we had this thing this last week where this letter got sent to pre apparently in the in Mountain West replied and said, we're not cutting

you any slacker, So just what is all that? Well? I think the deadline of June thirtieth has been looming for Santego State, and you know, any other team in the Mountain West if they were to have an opportunity to move out to another conference to where they would pay an exit fee. If you'd pay it by June thirtieth, it would be approximately seventeen million. If you waited till after that, it would be it would be double.

So Dandia State kind of reached out to find out if that deadline could be extended and or if some of the terms could be altered a little bit to benefit them, and they were told, in fact, no, there's some talk to you know, maybe it would have been better to keep this maybe more on the down loan, just to have a senior States president called directly to the Mountain West Commissioner, and then it kind of went out to all

the presidents and blew up there. So I've seen online and you know, everybody on the internet saying that San Diego State just kind of blew the whole situation. I don't that's too extreme, isn't it. I don't know blow it would would be the right way to say that. I think it could have been done a little more discreetly, a little more, a little more depth depth of touch. I think by you know, as long as soon as you put something out to more and more people, obviously it's going to

get out there more easily. One is I think they shouldn't have put it in writing and do I think they should have kept it to one on one with the commissioner, right right. So the assumption has been for a while that San Diego State is going somewhere and most likely the PAC twelve. You know, from where you sit, I mean, is that is it a foregone conclusion as far as that goes that that they are leaving in the more likely place is the PAC twelve. You know, I wouldn't call anything foregone

conclusion, as we've seen so many things can change. And I think the biggest concern is with the PAC twelve. I think we've heard since last December that their their deal, their new TV media deal is imminent, and here we are going on eight months later and still nothing is secure. We went from here in December to January to March to and now end of summer, you know what's to make it so it's not the end of the year before they get anything done. And with that in mind, you know, how

could Santega State think anything's just secured deal. Yeah, this might be a silly question, but you know is it is the fan base pretty much on board with wanting to go to the Pac twelve. Do they like where they are? Do they want to go to the Big twelve? What's your sense of that. I'll put it this way. My first memory of going to a Senator State football game is with the safety patrol in sixth grade in nineteen seventy two, and I think I think there was talk among ourselves then that

there's hope to go to the Pac eight. Then then there's the Pac ten and the Pac twelve. So the fan base has been very charged up for going on fifty years to move to the Pacific Conference, and they're just chomping at the bit at every morsel of news that maybe this is going to happen. And it has in fact happened, but at this point I still think

anything is speculation, right. What do you say about the fit? Just over the few years, the football team has comported itself very well with the competition it's faced, and then just last year basketball has kind of fit in very well given what they've done. So it seems like the obvious fit from the West I think definitely basketball especially would fit well. Football has been, as you said, competitive against Pacific teams in the last few years, but

I think there would be some challenges. I know, well, you know, you taught a good example that's taken them better part of ten years to be where they rose to the top and could win a championship, and I think something would be similar for Sandega State football. But at the same time, you know, being able to finally get a foothold with the Power five would would be very beneficial to the program. And I think they would be

competitive. As you look forward, you know they're over here, we're you know, we've got I don't know if it's a fifty fifty split, but it's not far off from that of people who want to stay in the Pac twelve and people who would have loved to go to the Big twelve primarily because of basketball. Um, how much of a fit do you think Sandiego State would be in the Big twelve. I think that would be a lot different.

But again, you know, is it the Big twelve that we're looking at right now, or do they enlarge and add some more West Coast teams to where you might have some pods I just can't really see Santego state some of their teams wanting to fly all the way to the East coast and compete with some of those teams, And in that way, I think you're gonna get a little bit far flung if you went to the Big twelve. Obviously,

I think the pacif twelve is the key fit. The big thing is, you know, we've seen so many rumors on this happening or that are happening that the PAC twelve state together as it's composed of difference. But let me ask you a dumb qushion too, given that it's let's assume it happens

for a second, usile he's gone. Obviously, US he's gone. Do you think that they would have an advantage, not a competitive advantage, but advantage with the recruiting because if that's the only school left in the southern California region now that they're part of the PAC twelve, PAC ten, PAC twelve, that they would have it, have it good or how much of a leap you think they can make semi because of that? Because of that?

Well, funny you bring up the recruiting aspect. I think that's been the biggest thing that's kept sending of State out through the years since we've always heard that UCLA and USC don't want panna State on equal footing to where they could be retaining a lot of the players from San Diego, which is is a

hot bed and recruiting. UM so, so I do think it's prove that when USC and using leaving um sing with State if it were to join the PAC twelve, Uh, it recruits them I think more likely want to stay home and and that would definitely benefit and boost the program right right makes sense to me? Yeah, no, it would, I mean, and certainly that's why the PAC twelve would would love to, you know, keep them

in the you know, in the league. Um, if it's if it's SMU or whoever it might be. Um, what are your thoughts on what that league the I don't know, not so much image of the league, but the competitiveness of the league compared to the other leagues. If let's say, if it's SMU and UH and San Dieo stayed in their back at twelve teams, where you know, where does the PAC twelve fallow in the hierarchy there? Do you think in your opinion? Uh, if you were to

add those two teams. Yeah, Um, I think they're right now their best of the rest, and so that's kind of what you're hoping. Obviously, I think the Pac twelve is diminished by the two teams that it lost, and I don't think anybody they can bring in would would make them whole

again. But at this point, and I think that's that's kind of the best thing you could probably do. And and you know, the big key is again we've heard so many rumors about various things happening, and you know, can they stay intact with Oregon and Washington and you know the four foreigner schools they say, and and there's so much it's funny for us far along down the road we are. Are we any farther than we were back when

USA and Utula? And they really know exactly you know, that's a really good that's a great pot Because we talked about this when we did the show a year ago, right almost a year ago, and we made a bet real quick and Jay said it is going to be done by August or September, and that didn't happen. Now we're the old lady on the Titanics thing. Well, it had been eighty four years since this is going to happen.

Uh, and it's not, and here we still are. UM. I had a quick question, go ahead, Jake, But you know, is there you think they're Do you think fans are getting tired of this? You know, are they just like, just do this already? I'm sick of hearing about it. Uh you know, do they do you do fans lose interest over this? I mean, what are your thoughts on you know, how fans are reacting to all of this and just how long it's taken.

I think there are some, definitely who are fatigued. I've seen a few even on chatboards saying, you know, wake me when they're finally a decision. But at the same time, you know, I think they're willing if if this does come to pass, I think they're willing to wait a little bit extra time to have it happen. So go ahead. Well, I was just thinking about my question. So you're in the business stuff finding stuff out obviously in this business. Uh so do you hear anybody who doesn't

want this to happen? Yeah? Administratively from a sending state standpoint, I think everyone wants it to happen. Here's my one thought on where this all goes. In the last decades. You know, one of the biggest reasons sending the States wanted to join the PAC twelve in addition to it's a Power five conference, but it's the opportunity to play UCLA and USC and they're going

to be leaving. So I've given one more thought to, well, what does happen down the road and could the Mountain West itself be a better conference? And there is there a possibility that maybe Santego State's better off staying where it is and being the big dog on that block rather than going to the Power five and really having to perhaps struggle for a few years before it gets

a foothold. Yeah, okay, because you know, I look at I went to the San Diego State, Arizona Arizona Steak everything Steve did too beautiful stadium, very you know, upscale kind of thing, and they're they're like, you know, if they were to stay in the Mountain West with with that advantage over most of the other schools in terms of a football program, You're right, they could become a or you elevate themselves way above the Mountain

West schools or as joining the PAC twelve. Yes, they're in a Power five conference, but now they're kind of like, as you said, they're sort of starting where Utah was. You know, it took them a while to get up to speed. And is it good enough just to be there? You know? I think biggest thing is I think you're if Synator State gets to go to the Power five, they get fans and administrators and everyone else gets to puff out their chests that we're part of the Power five.

And I also think it makes you're scheduling better. You're gonna have some better teams or more high profile teams come into play, and those are definitely big benefits. But beyond that, I mean, are your wins and loss is going to be the same. I would think it's going to be more of a challenge to be as successful. And and you know, if you have a few senators State has not had a losing football season in more than a

decade. If you have one or two of those in the next few years, you know, how much does the fan base alliss get start getting frustrated because they're not seeing the same success. So so you don't have to answer this question, I'm kind of asking it in light. But I'm sure. I mean, given haven't been a reporter here for twenty five years, and J two that you already have both stories written already. If they don't go or if they go, you just gotta hit a button. I wouldn't say

we're at that point, but we will beady to add. In fact, I think it's not two stories, but it's probably about twelve. Yes, just different versions. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, so many different veries. I mean somebody, as you said, so many things can still happen, right. Uh, well, I'm talking one of my colleagues a lot about this the last few weeks and months, and one thing he brought up this weekends. He goes, what if something comes out of left field

the way they live and PGA Golf merger came. You know what if all this sudden we see the pact, the PAC twelve and the Big twelve decide we're going to merge. Who knows what could happen? No, I hear you. I mean it's just as you say, and now in your mind, has we see all the speculation stuff like that, But it's awesome. It's mostly speculation. There haven't really been a ton of let's say, reliable leaks of information. Right, only a few things have come out that have

actually been true. Everything else has been speculation. Would you agree with that completely? I mean, you know, if you're really think about it, what progress has actually been made? Yeah? Not much from the same rumors that happened at the beginning. They're still coming out and everybody knows right, everybody's I know this, I know that. Shut up, you don't know

this? Well? Yeah, we keep saying that they we have to see what the media rights is and I'm kind of like, you know, well, what if you just decide what your composition or your conference is going to be, because won't that be part of what determines what your media rights is worth? Yeah? Chicken and egg thing? Right? Who? Yeah? Which one first? Exactly exactly right? Well, again, as I said, are you are you having fun with all this? Well, I mean

it's definitely. I have more fun when there's something definitive that you can kind of think your teeth into and actually write about. I haven't. We've we've written very few stories on this because I really am not one that likes to just perpetuate speculation, you know, when there's just nothing there. Yeah, we're just good. We appreciate that, we really do. But uh, you know, I for one, you know, we are are our kind of way we do things here on our show. Steve's the Steve was a

writer for a hundred years. I was a sportswriter back in the day. But I'm more of the fan here. I really want San Diego State in the Pac twelve. I really do, uh, because I'm a I'm a little upset at ucln USC because we take that road trip, you know, pretty much every year. So I'm looking forward to, you know, coming to San Diego State, even if it's only every other year. Plus, we really liked the stadium last year. Although that day was damn hot.

It's the hottest I've ever I've ever been in Southern California. We've ever been in southern California as well. We brought I guess we brought it with us because that was bad man, Holy cow. Yeah, Okay, Well, good luck to you. Yeah, Kirk, we appreciate the appreciate the time on this. I'm sure we're gonna want to touch base with you again whenever whatever happens happened before we go this. I don't you think at the end of the day, j and I'll believe this San Diego State, it's gonna

be in Everything that we've kind of heard is gonna go that way. So don't worry. Just get that story gone. Just write that baby, what's gonna happen. That's what we're saying. Just get this thing done. Well. I will say that they're there. Athletic director John David Wicker has hinted strongly enough that you would think it is a very very good chance. Yeah, because I don't think you would say that otherwise, and in the terms that he's stated it. So it's like, you know, you know,

once I hang up, we'll probably hear something about an hour. All right, man, Well we'll keep an eye on you. So, hey, thanks a bunch of Kurt. We appreciate and say hi to Ryan for us. He's a good friend of our. Probably have you back when all this kind of settles. Absolutely sounds good, Thank you, thank you. Um. Yeah, we just don't know, we know, but we don't know.

I mean we again, you know, Kurt's you know, he's in the middle of it over there and just basically hearing all the same things that we're all hearing and just waiting for somebody to pull the trigger on this thing. Just think we are all right, Let's take a break, come back for our last segment. To give us a call five to zero, four one, six, seventy four, forty and we'll talk about whatever you want to talk about. We'll be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball

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with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back. Join the buck around Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve, You're James get fifteen minutes, you want to give us a call five to h four one sixty. It was good to talk to or San Diego guys. Yeah, Kirk Kenny, first time I had him on the show. But um, obviously you know you know the question I asked. I mean, he can't go anywhere right now? No, right, you can't tall like us.

And he goes a vacation. It's gonna happen. Yeah, and he's hanging out there until this thing happens. Yeah. Well, the good thing, the good thing that he said. And I'm not sure if other editors will left this fly, but find out today, find out today, he says, I'm not doing that because it continues to feed the beast of some speculation, speculation which you know, good for him, that's really cool, you know that the one Ryan allows that and trusting him that he can get

the story without you know, writing about it every day. All right, I have a question for you. If you had four hundred grand sitting in your in your living room or in your pocket or whatever, would you put it on the NBA draft tonight? No, no two, not even first thing. No, No, I did that last year, remember I think they did that Austria when and then the last Monte they switched. I did that too, and they switched and switched it. Yeah, just all of

a sudden, no two hundred draft kings. Somebody put four hundred thousand dollars on Victor Webb and Yama to be the first number one overall pick at minus twenty thousand odds, so they would win two thousand dollars. Yeah, what's the point. What's the point If you have the four hundred thousand dollars, why do you need another two four thousand? I wouldn't because about retirement. Did you want to cash a ticket or what? What's the deal? So

anyways, hey, UM skipped a thing. When we're talking about the LSU's i ARP thing. The IRP did smack the football program around a little bit, and UH wanted to cover that little bit. First of all, Um, they had to vacate a bunch of wins. Apparently there was a player whose father got one hundred and eight thousand dollars from somebody attached to the program who embezzled that money from from UH from somewhere and gave it to UH.

This athlete one hundred and eighty thousand dollars and the player was at was at LSU from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen. Doesn't see what the player was, No, I wonder if he was any good. I don't know. But because of that, they've had to vacate thirty seven wins from less miles coaching career, which means he drops under the sixty uh winning percentage threshold to be able to get into the College Football Hall of Fame, which is what's keeping

Dick Tomi out of the out of the Hall of Fame right now. They've not bent bent over backwards or changed the rule or giving them a little leeway to do that. So he fought he's now in at point five ninety seven because of those vacates, and so now less Miles may not get into. He's not even coaching anymore, right, didn't he go into get a Yeah? I think he thinks out and then yeah, he was in Kansas and

then he got fired from there. Um. One of the violations that also occurred there was if remember after LC won the national championship, Odell Beckham went on the field was ending any money to players. They determined that he gave four players two thousand dollars each, So that was part of the part of the punishments they got so tivation for three years. So timing is everything, right, if you did that now would be okay, no, no,

because they have to do something for the two thousand dollars. Okay, well you give me two thousand and then I'll just do something for ya. You send out a tweet, right or whatever. Yeah, and then there was also one more violation that had to do with ed Orgeron having impermissible contact with with with a prospect. But the LSC football program gets smacked around a little bit. They're on a three year probation now, uh with with the NC DOUBLEA. So there you go. Um, here's the one. And I'm

sure he's getting paid for this. Caleb Williams is gonna have a bubblehead night at Dodger State in August. They would, wouldn't. You don't have to play for the Dodgers to get a bubblehead. I guess you don't have to be Yeah, you don't. You know you've arrived when you get a bubblehead. Yeah, it's some other place. It's some other place. We gotta call it. H on there and on the ball Hey, good afternoon guys. Tommy Lang, How are you doing pretty good? Tommy? What's up?

Hey? I got what I hope is kind of a funny story from last year's NBA Draft. Okay, can I tell it? Yeah? So, uh, if you if you go backwards in time and go to the USC home game, you know, somewhere in the first part of Mark right, and uh, I'm at the game and we're in we're in the second row in sixteen, so we're straight across the USC bench, right, And then three or four minutes into the game, I mean it's a fired up game. We're like ranked three to five and they're in the top fifteen eighteen.

This this guy and it's probably fifties, and his daughter comes sitting next to us on the aisle. No big deal. She's amazingly too good looking, you know. But about twenty four and then three four minutes of more game time, they're not moving, they're not cheering for anybody, They're just

like sitting there watching the game. So at the TV time out, I say to this girl who turns out to be your this kid, her name is Kendall Pritchard, I said, hey, do you guys come to a lot of games and she's like, no, I live in LA and I met my dad here to come watch number zero matherin. Right. So we get to the draft day and if you remember, none of us we didn't

know who was getting ticked by who. So I'm so bored. I turned on the draft when it's going to start, and I opened up the Arizona Wildcats page on Facebook, and after about the second pick, I just put it in there. I go, Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Mathern gets drafted by the Pacers? Who the GM is Kevin Pritchard, you know, the point guard from eighty eight Kansas Dannon Manning championship team. That was

just so funny because then he ends up getting picked. It was just a fun the story because they didn't really fit in you know, oh, oh it was Kevin Pritchard. Yeah, it was Kevin Pritchard. You know. At the end of the game, he just turned and turned towards us and he's like, hey, what's your names? And I told him and they said, I I'm Kevin. Nice to meet. Yeah. I said, yeah, I remember you. I was in Kansas and he kind of smiled and he goes, good memory. And I said, that's not that great.

But yeah, it was Kevin Pritchard, you know from the Pacers GM and he was the point guard in Kansas. The other two things I remember about that game, which was cool, was I gave nine and a half because if you remember, we were down by six, eight, ten in

the middle of the second half when we won by nine. And in the second half when USC was shooting right in front of us, there were so many balls taking out of bounds, like ten feet in front of us, and Drew Peterson kept taking the ball, throwing the ball in and then I was riding him like a donkey. I just couldn't because he went like one for the world that day and I kept going at him, just keep throwing

about, just keep jacking up shot. But it was a fun story, and you know, I'll see what happens today, all right, man, Very cool, Hey Tommy, thanks a much, man, good story. Thanks later. Okay, we got seven minutes and do you want to call? Yeah a guy that I know what my buddy always notices whenever he shows up, and it's more often at the PAC twelve tournament. You always see

um. Now I can't think of his name Danny always a Pac twelve tournament every year, every year, sitting there taking notes, baseball cap, trying thinking nobody's gonna recognize him. But always there. But yeah, interesting stuff. Yeah, you know, Arizone's always guys, guy, you know, scout stuff. There's always guys. If you remember they had from the Lakers. Oh man, he was a chapter in my book Riowa Loots, one of the Loots cards. God, I hate my you always with the Lakers.

Yeah, I got another call. H you're on the r and I on the ball. Hey, guys, this is Phil. Hey Phil, what's up? How are you guys doing? We're doing good? What are you on your mind? Hey? I have a question for both of you. Okay, since it's uh, it's kind of a basketball day with the drafting all ye, who who do you think Floyd Is can be more like? At the end of the day, after his career is over, he's going to be more like lud Olson or more like uh Sean Sean Miller?

What sense success? Oh? Winning games? Being successful in the tournament, raising the University of Arizons Loot to the heights that they used to be lot not even a question to talk about. Tomm Lloyd right, Why? Yeah, because I think Tommy Lloyd's gonna get Arizona to the Promised Land, not know so much a natural championship, but I think I us gonna get to a couple of finals fours. Why is that? Because I think he's a

better coach. I think he's a when I say a better coach. He's got his guys playing in a way that other guys are gonna want to come and play for him, and he's going to continue to get good plays. Wait wait, wait, was there a right or wrong answer? Because you're you're told yeah, he seemed like you disagree with us. Well I did disagree with you, guys. No, there is no right or wrong answer

because it's an opinion. Right, So do you I think I think he I think he's going to gonna be closer to Sean Miller, which would mean one because I think that that in the long run, he'll he'll never beat to the point where Rude Olsen was taking teams to elite eights in final fours. I don't even to the championship game with Rude alson. We went to do to two championship games. No, don't get me wrong. Well,

it hasn't in him to do that. Yes, I'm gonna think so is because he's only had two years as as head coach and he hasn't really proven anything yet. Might be wrong, That's just what I think. So winning sixty one games, I think he was in two years, it's not proven. From Phil, were you what are you doing well? Okay? And also Phil, let me just say, don't get me wrong. Remember, don't get me wrong. I don't think. I don't think Tommy Lloyd is

a lout Olson in the making. But you said you're going to be closer to Loot or closer to Sean, And I think if he gets to a final four or two, he's closer to Loot than he is to Sean. And I also think that, Okay. So I also think that it's not out of the realm of possibility. I think he's a really good coach.

And I think what we've seen in the last couple years, in spite of the Princeton loss, all right, in spite of the fact that they didn't that they only got to the sweet sixteen and in his first year, which I sit there and I say, we're unhappy he didn't go far enough in his first year because he only got to the sweet sixteen. I think he's a really damn good coach, and I think he's gonna be here a while because he wants to be here. And I just think that good things are

gonna happen with this program. And that sounds homeless as all hell, but from what I've seen these first two years, I do believe that he's a really good coach who does things in a way that he's going to continue to be a good coach. And I agree. I agree with Jay for the first time and forever for all those reasons. Phil, you must suffer from the Norm Ellenberger. I do that that and the Steve Alfred. With that said, I don't know if you remember Gary Coulson. Remember Gary Coulson coach

there? Oh no, I remember Gary. He's the one that took over it fixed the program after after Ellenberger. Right, And one of the things, and I don't know if you know that Dennis Latta passed away just recently and the one thing that he would he would say to the media and alb Creek, all you do is complain, there's never a happiness in this global land. And and Phil, you're proving it right, hey day that you can say that about every university in this United States. That is true too.

It is that four people aren't happy, they're not that's a that's a hundred, that's one hundred percent in fact. That's not of opinion. That is fact. You know, because while I was seeing fact, we're I was seeing radians of Arizona fans as as some of them, not the worst fans, but the most entitled fans, uh you know, in the country, and they are and and and so yeah, I mean you're right. I mean people there's people were including you. I guess we're unhappy with Tommy

Lloyd after his first two years when he's done. No, I'm not so many things. No, I'm no, Okay, So I was. I was a Sean Miller fan. I think Sean Miller was a good coach. And I think he still is a good coach. Look what he did at Xavier. Again, wherever he was, where he goes, he wins. Right, he was he was never going to become the coach, said lud Olsen. Was. He never was going to be that. I don't think he'll ever will be, Okay. Yeah, And I think Tommy Lloyd is

gonna be closer to that than Rudolsen. That's what I think. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I would take that at you and them any days, right, but I just to me rude Olsen was he leade? Yeah, it's hard to be leader. Well, we're not going to have another one of those. You don't. You don't get another week failed the field test, but it was tilted. That test was tilted because of

the greater last thing. Guys, I just hope that San Diego State does not leave the Mountain West because there are only real consistent team that we have amongst football, basketball and base makes sense, makes sense. But they're coming. They're coming to the back really weekends the Mountain West. If they leave, all right, sorry Phil, but we're taking them all right. Hey, we gotta go. Top of the hour, end of the show. Thank you for calling. I appreciate good call. Thanks guysger come on,

what are you doing? I just remember the all, the all, the all, the Turtuoise and silver, the normalger where and that scandal of back in the day, the grades on. That's the blip on the ridge compared to what's going on now. As as we just went through, uh little through the LSU stuff. Yeah no, I no kidding, that's just uh, it just change, all right. So we're gonna be back tomorrow.

We're gonna be talking to FC two soon, right, FC two songs stuff, and so you know, whenever we come up with it will be a Friday. We'll have fun and we hope you'll be around to that. So we'll see you tomorrow