Steve Rivera and Jacoon Sommings. They have their High on the Ball on two Songs sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back to its probably I'm about here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jacon's Ols. Got a guy Jason now with breaking news. I on the Ball, breaking news. Okay, so some nil news. The Desert Take Football Collective has arrived in two Songs to provide opportunities for the Arizona football student athletes.
Well, that was something that Ray Wells talked about. Ray Wells, who's the executive director of this collective but also the executive director of Friends of Wilburn and Wilma, which he said this collective was going to be formed to specifically focus on football. So we kind of heard this was coming in. Now it's here, right, which of course they probably needed to do it. AU basketball has its own Basketball has one, right, Yeah, and
it's gonna be getting crazier more and more as we move along. Yeah, and we're you know, we're continuing to see that. You know, there may be some federal legislation coming related to all of this. UM which is that thing that UM Greg Sanky, the SEC commissioner who was sort of the top commissioner of the NC double A, was saying that the as much as you hate to do this, that you know you need Congress to do something because it's so scattered around with all the different states. Did you see so
the penalties that came down on Tennessee right didn't involve a bull band? Okay, Well, I hadn't seen this until after the fact, but the Tennessee Attorney General had threatened to sue the NC double A if there was a bull band because they were saying that an NC double A bull band would have violated Tennessee. Tennessee's NIL legislation that said that the ncuble A can do cannot do
anything that in hibits a players opportunity to make nail money. And they were threatening DANC double A. Soy, we're coming after you if you get if you give them a bull band, because they're saying by giving them a bull band that that means that they can't make an amil money related to the bull
That's what's wrong with what's going on right now. Sure, and I'm sure he's a pretty big Tennessee fan, right exactly, And nobody's saying that that's why d NC double A didn't give him a bull band, but that that was out before the before the penalties came down crazy some national news. The NFL owners unanimously approved the Washington Commander's sale of six billion dollars to the group led by Josh Harris, Magic Johnson and some other partners, as well as
the Boys, part owner of the Dodgers. Yeah, yeah, interesting, Well that ends a huge saga, right, an unfortunate saga, a non winning saga. He kind of came in, he was like, what's his name? First name again? Hurricane Dan came in and blew up to place and just left. He was I mean, he was just a mess.
And so on the heels of that UM, the NFL released a statement that Dan Snyder and owes them sixty sixty million dollars because of because they they an investigation into him revealed that he had been hiding money that was supposed to have been shared with UM, with h the other owners, he other owners in the team of his team, of his team, but that he was supposed to share with the NFL. Revenue was supposed to shared with the NFL,
and so he uh and so he was doing that. Wow, so they said, the investigation said that they how did how did they put it? They have? Um, oh god, I had this, I had this in here. Oh here it is here. Let me read. This is the conclusion of the report from the NFL. After extensive investigation, we have
sustained that's the keywords that she used. Sustained both Tiffany Johnson's allegation of sexual harassment by mister Snyder and Jason Friedman's allegation of deliberate under reporting of NFL revenues by the club to avoid its VTS sharing obligations. We found that the evidence was insufficient to demonstrate mister Snyder's involvement in the calendar photo incident or in the security deposit issues. Allegedly they kept security deposits deposits from season ticket holders.
That was my comment and was inconclusive. Inconclusive as to his personal participation in the club's improper shielding of revenues. In the course of the investigation, we also identified a variety of transactions and accounting entries left unexplained by the club, which raised a number of issues as to whether a significant portion of the revenues recorded were NFL related revenues properly shielded from VTS sharing, so basically he was
stealing money too. He was sexually her asking people, and it was just a complete mess. They had to get him the hell out of it. Was it is it? Jabber Morales is a huge Redskins fan. Yeah, I'm guessing he's happy. Yeah, But it's kind of it's kind of that thing of it's a relief, we got it. It's like when Arizona fire John mcavic and when Fat Kevin somewhat it's just like a relief that this is this crap. Let's move on from move on from out of here fans and
everybody can move on and then and let mean real real quick. So then um the Red, the new Redskins owner, issued a statement today, My partners and I were entrusted by the NFL with the stewardship of a great franchise. As a lifelong Washington football fan who grew up here, I know that the Commanders are more than just a sports team. That's an institution passed down
from generation generation and it goes on. So basically you feel like it's in the hands of somebody who's really gonna care about it, right, Good for the good for the Commanders. I'll cheer for them again. Yeah. So are they going to begin like a name logo kind rebrand, They're gonna redo. I think they're gonna change the name again. It sounds like I heard that a while back that they may be changing the name again. I'll just did another, dude again. Yeah. Um, So the NBA In the
Season Tournament is going to be happening on November November third. All thirty teams will be participating in it to win the NBA Cup, and eight teams will be advancing into the knockout rounds. So yeah, go ahead, every team is gonna play. Every team will be playing a single elimination. Yes, um, eight teams advanced if they knockout rounds. The tournament semis and championship game we'll be heading Las Vegas will be held in Las Vegas on course.
Yeah, of course on December seventh and eight. So, um, dude, they stop the regular season and play this tournament. Yeah, yeah they will. Yeah? And how long is it for two weeks? How long? I think it's two weeks long? Yeah, and you know you get a trophy, you get you know, money, incentives as well. So, and all thirty teams playing and they have it broken up into different groups and then they just you know play, so they're like a round robin and
then a bracket. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm sure you know, the older guys in the league probably won't participate just because I mean, I mean, wear I'm out. Yeah, wear I'm out because he definitely you know, playing playoffs all that afterwards. So this is another money grab, does yeah my money and TV grab yet? Yeah? Pretty much? So okay you care about it? Um, I mean I might watch it, you know, if I have nothing better going on. I mean, do you care who wins it? Oh? No, I don't like and
does why didn't mean anything? I'm not really It's like the All Star Game, you know, doesn't mean And here's your issue. If somebody gets hurt in that tournament, right, we're gonna say when the hell are we playing? They were gonna They'll say, well, we were gonna be playing games anyway. So yeah, yeah, but not part of the regular season. This is extra. Yeah, this has nothing to do with the contracts. Are gonna say, well, I'm gonna play in this tournament, give me
something any more money. Yeah, because I'm sure they had to negotiate that, Steve. I mean, I think would have had to negotiate that just to be able to play the tournament. And if they were negotiating that, I'm sure there was some money and the players. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't just say you don't just do that, right, Yeah. I think you know, they were like more, you know, incentives for participating in this versus you know, just playing the regular you know. So
yeah, but that's why the break News offered today. Okay, UM, a few other things. Let's see what I'll say. Um, what what I have here? Uh? No, I had got him. Oh. We talked briefly about the Dan Patrick retirement yesterday, right, So it turns out he he wasn't really trying to announce his retirement. What he was talking about was that he's got a contract extension for for Fox Sports, for iHeart,
which which we're on. He you know, his his show is on this station in the morning and for Peacock, and that the contract runs for another four years. And that's so he basically said, I'm done after that four years is over. So, so it's at the end of December of twenty twenty seven, so he had to clarify that day. Paramoun So he'll be sixty nine, said, right, I think he's sixty seven. Now at some point you're gonna say goodbye, run up into the sunset. If
you're not calling your shot, someone's gonna calling for you. He's sixty seven. He just turned sick. Did he turned sixty seven two months ago, So he'll be seventy one, be seventy one when he calls it. Okay, you see he's he's kept well you know, yeah, he was a college athlete. He was called well, I didn't know. I didn't know at a Eastern Kentucky. Yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, he's sixty said, well, you know, sixty sevens and you forty seven.
I feel about thirty. I feel thirty ninety, said I want to get out a bit and walk around, and i'm you know, and I'm like, you know, I'm forty three. Yeah, it was like it was diver. I was gonna bring something help, I'll I'll bring it up. I can't Okay, No, no, I can't because it's you don't explain why in the break, Okay, um, we'll see what happens. So
anything else. No, No, that's all all right. Um, I mean, you know, look, there's I did see that the Colorado chancellor said that the that the presidents were supposed to be presented with a TV deal today. Oh good, you see what having a Stanford all of their president. Yeah, so that's another Stanford president. That's no president's done. And that that the Stanfford president is on the executive committee. So that's he's gone
now. So now that's one that's voice for now. But that um that there was supposed to be something that something was supposed to be given to the presidents today. Didn't say that there's gonna be an announcement, just said more information that that that they were going to have have a sense of it sometime today. I can't imagine that if they get if that gets out to the
presidents, that's not going to get out somewhere. Well, I think one more thing you have you talk to me about the PAC twelve recruiting thing. Well, that was a college basketball report that does stuff similar to a big game Boomer does, uh, regarding of of uh sports of stuff. They listed the top five best recruiting college hoops programs in each conference in East Power
Conference, so they include the Big East as a power conference. In basketball, they listed Arizona number one in the PAC twelve, ahead of UCLA, USC Oregon in Washington. They've got Duke, North Carolina, Louisville, Florida State in Virginia in the ACC. In the Big East, they've got Villanova, Yukon, Georgetown, Xavier, and then Marquette in the Big East. And then obviously Kansas number one in the Big Twelve, Indiana number one in
the Big Ten, and Kentucky number one in the SEC. That shouldn't surprise anybody, but you just saying that these are the top recruiting programs. So and I think, you know, I think probably Arizona still gets a little bit of a little bit of nudge from all the five stars that Sean Miller got, you know, for all those years. Because I know that Tommy's getting a lot of top players, but he's not getting like three five stars every year plus with the with the I don't think and I don't think that
matters anymore. Look at look at what did to the program. Well yeah, yeah, hey, you can't have all these good dudes then to jump and then what happens? Yeah, I mean you know, don't you kind of like the fact that he you know, Hanry Bass all right, yeah, really good player. He's gonna take some time to develop, seasoning and he'll develop. You know, Zulus was here three years. I think Crevis
is gonna be the same way. Yeah, has emerged. Yeah, and you know, I'm really happy to have umar Balo coming in this year. Then some five star guy who's was in high school last year. Oh yeah, playing that position for much right, right, we'll see awesothing That was actually um the Vikings first round pick Jordan Addison the side of this morning forest beating and reckless driving from Georgia. Yeah, no, no, he's wrong,
said did he go to Georgia? He was apparently driving one hundred and forty miles per hour freeway, which when I read that, I was like, it's not right, But I mean what free Where was this side? Isn't in Minnesota? Yeah, We're in the world. Can you drive in Minnesota that fast? Why would you? I don't know whether this, Why would you Why would you go over hundred? Why would you do? Yeah?
I go seventy six? Man. They would talk about this. So the big poppy on on the damn Patrick show, because he's got like I think he's got like a couple of Lamborghinis. So, damn Patrickan, what's the fastest you've ever driven? There? He said? He said, of two hundred miles an hour? Why it was? It's where did you drive a two hundred miles an hour? He said, the Dominican Republic. He said, there's roads that you can do that in the Dominican Republic. He
said, I had to. I had to do that to see how fast I could go. And then he said, are you gonna do it again? He said no, Yeah, it'd be like one of those speedboats and then flips over like that. Just a rock, right, get a rock, hit a deer hit, a hit a road. Yep, you're gone. My thrill is making it in the parking out there here I go, I go eighty, I go eighty, I go see you. All right, we're gonna take a break, We're gonna come back. We're gonna have
Yogi Roth. We'll talk about PAC twelve Media Day, uh coming up tomorrow, and just some of his thoughts on on the league. He's been around checking everything out, so we'll see what Yogi Roth has to say about where
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I heard radio app. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jakonsos. And now on the phone, we have Yogi Rock from the PAC twelve Networks. Yogi, how are you doing? Okay? Great? How are you doing? We're doing well. Are you ready for tomorrow's PAC twelve media day? I must think that you are very excited about tomorrow. Yeah. I think it's you know, as I sit here in my early forties, I'm like,
God, these years have flown by, you know. I know you guys probably think the same thing. And here we are, new days again. It's another season and it is. It is absolutely flying right now. So it's good to be here. It's gonna walk around the hotel, see the coaches and players, all the good stuff. So I can't wait to uh, I can't wait to talk to them, can't wait the shirts, our
stories, can't wait to keep the ball moving. Here to be the historical league this year in terms of talents, So I'm really excited about it. Well, well, so much of the conversation unfortunately since season the season ended, has been you know, the TV deal and the expansion, all that
stuff. We finally get to talk about the football. And you know the other part of the conversation has been that the PAC clubs, it looks like their head they've got a year where they've got they could have some great teams, a whole bunch of great quarterbacks. Well, you know what's the main storyline on the field this year. I think it's the quarterbacks. And honestly,
like I don't even think we've been think that hard. You know, it's like the number that will get thrown out around a ton tomorrow by everybody who talks. I think is that, you know, eight quarterbacks last years through for three thousand yards. That only happened once in the history of college football ever before, and it was in this league in twenty fourteen. And
this year six of those eight per terms. You add in the best transfer classes in the country, some of the best high school quarterbacks in the country. So we're talking about Dante Moore, Malachi Nelson, were talking about transfers in DJ Louis on the LA and of course Shodor Sanders drew time possibly as a starter at Arizona State, Like, you can't not look at this league and be like, yep, they got the best quarterbacks in the country. Last year, I was arguing it, and I get proved to be true
by the end of the year. This year from jump, you know, get kind in prediction that it's Caleb and it's Panics and it's bow All five go on outs are better. This is a league, you know, it just is. And I think that always dies the conversation. And I would say that's what wins. Look at the teams that have won the national title over the last handful of years, the sure you have an eleague quarterback and I think that's what our league has and that's why I think it's a year
or a league that is a chance of a special year. Would you think that the national media has finally kind of paid attention and it's ob you see the quarterbacks, but they're finally kind of looking this way to see that there might be some pretty good football this year. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I've been doing shows on all the parts of the country. They went on the South this morning, and they're rare, you know, that's the best part. And they're away of Arizona and the passing game with
jug Fish. They're aware of Oregon and Washington SC. Of course in Utah's two time defending champion, they're a where of Oregon State and being a sleeper team. They know of Chip Kelly and what he's done. So I think that the storylines that these coaches, these head coaches have brought to the table with the players that they have have really cut through. And in my twenty some years now around this league, it's never been like that in terms of
every team having a story that can cut through. Right, it could be Troy Taylor and what he's done offensively, that story at Stanford because it's so different than everybody that cuts through. I can go up and down every team in this league, even Cow if the addition of Sam Jackson, the fourth from TCU got cuts through because of Jake spaviol Is, BOC and some of
the staff chains Justin Wilcox made. So it's it's really cool because they'll be a ton of eyes and that needs to be a lot of eyes because a that's warranted and it's great for the league. So you know, you know, the the PAC twelve has the as the returning Heisman Trophy winner Caleb Williams, But I'm not so sure that he is hands down necessarily the best quarterback in the Pac twelve coming into this year. I'm leading Michael Michael Pennocks, but I mean, you have to say he is, but it's not a
sure thing. Yeah. I think that speaks to like, you know, I always say this rout of the draft right the top two picks, whether it was carsonal Went and Jared Goff from cal or whether it was last year in Price young CD strout, you're hitting that position against each other, and I think it's okay to like have a lot of really good ones, you know, And that's what this league has. And I see it at the
high school level all the time. Who's the best quarterback in America? Who's a five star, who's the best guy And the end of the day, there's so many things that allow that player, that person to thrive, and it's okay if a couple of them do. I think Michael Pennocks, to
your point, is a bona fide perennial All American. He proved that when I'm going Passion in the Nation last year, Caleb Williams it is the best quarterback I've seen in my career play what he does as a second reaction passed, or how strong it's dirty he is, how accurate is he's competitive temperament, He's really special. Box I said the same thing, like he's a very unique player, and he's a guy that none of us would be surprised
if he's in New York City for the Heisman. And we kind of go down the list a little bit, right, and then you start talking about Cameron Ward and James de Laura and there's there's players in this league which just played at high level. How came Ryan? He wants two straight titles either winner right, Kyle winning has been their nineteen years. And then he calls him like the alpha's alpha, but he he might be the best leader in
the league. And I think leader gets thrown around very easily all the time. It's Kim is the definition of a guy who can walk in the room and make people feel his presence will make them better. So it's it's a fun debate, and I think for us as a league, you look at him say, oh, it's just loaded there and that is going to make every game so fun. On the fourth quarters. All these guys want the ball league. Well, let's come push the home and Tucson. What do
you feel about Jet in his third year? You know, I'm excited about this team. You know, they've they've done a lot of Look at where he took this thing over and kind of what's happened. You know, they were the I think the seventieth offense in America to six right. You look at the players he's brought in in terms of tens Rowan mcgillan, you know,
recruit from that program's history. And then this year doing the same thing on the defensive side, obviously addressing the needs and the portal with Justin Floe and company. On the defensive side, they were just okay last year. They win more game and they go bowling. So I'm like, I was the first guy talking about him when he got hired with you guys, and
I've always been bullsh you Luncheon, and I've always backed him up. I think that he's proven that he got a plan, that it's a detail that he's gonna recruited high school and he's gonna add when needed, be the transfer portal. And you guys want to be there. You don't see a lot of players transferring out. I get the Dorian Singer left to go to usc UH. You know, coaches leaving necessarily they wanted to be there fundamentally.
I just think it's a really healthy organization and I'm a big fan of He's gonna come under some scrutiny tomorrow. He knows that, they know that. I would Jane Delora being here and everything that went on in the offseason, But I don't think we can lose sight of what he's done with. You know, his team and the roster that he had and the team that he took over. And it's the team in year one with him. Do you guys know this? But it was eight games over within a score and heading
into the fourth quarter. They didn't win those games other than one. Last year there was five of those games they went three and two. I accept that thing to keep growing, and I really look at their schedule. I think it's a good team that can be four. Oh, they've got a comfort play. You know. Thinking about the quarterbacks again, when you have all these great quarterbacks in the league, and you guys, Arizona's a guy like has a guy like Jane Deloran They're picked to finish eighth in the league.
So with all these teams having these quarterbacks, who, you know, what is the next thing that some a team is going to need to have? You do you think to come out of this? You know who who's the champ and what does the champ look like? Yeah? I had a theory heading into the season this year that I think the run games are really
going to come back, you know, I really do. And you look at all these teams that were raided in the preseason polled that you just referenced, and Rally's always loved to run the football, you know, as creative as a run game as I've seen in terms of different pollers. Offensive lineman movie making really creative and forcing defenses hasn't said you look at you Dub, They're going to run the football, apaling the boy. It's gonna be a
physical out you have to be, especially in the weather you talk. That's how they've been defined as a physical unit. Oregon they're extremely that right bonus carry the ball Ton last year or stayed I'd say in the best run game in the league. You see like a shift they want to run it, Like I think that's going to be the thing and then which defense can slow
people down. I'm talking about a possession of two a game. And that's why it's interesting to see USC being picked with the dramatic amount of votes, because I think people are just assuming that that defensive facebook from a personnel standpoint, he's going to transfer the field. And I can't wait to find out. I'm called their first two games. I hope it does. I'm always rooting for the players to play their best, but that's gonna have to be
the thing. I think you don't defense gets no of you know, statistically, they were one of the better defensive last year, and I think people think that they were terrible on defense because of back to back losses against UCLA and A. As you they were dramatically injured in those games. They added a couple of players being the transfer portal. So I'm looking forward I think
the team when they're hosting the trophy here in December in Vegas. Yes, they'll have a quarterback that might be in New York shape for the Eisman, but I guarantee they'll ever ran the football and have been able to eliminate a possession or too because of their physicality on defense. I think who better to ask than a former player who played the game? You know, who are
two fat old dudes here talking Dolora. How much of the weight of the of the guy and the pressures that he's coming into the season will take its toll? Or or will it? Or do players just play? We weren't asking that tomorrow, you know, I know Jedfish. Of course he's gonna address the media. Jane Blower's gonna have to address the media, addressed what went on in the off seasons around the civil case that everybody's been talking about.
I'm sure in your hometown, and I think that's fair to talk about it. We got to bring it up. Those types of conversations are real and they're wrong. I know Jedd for fifteen years, like he takes this extremely seriously. And I think for them, they're bringing Jade the Lord to med Day so they can address it and then I think they'll play. And I think for the players on the team, I'm sure when the news came out, like all of us, there were shocked, like what is going
on? And there's confusion, And I'm sure that among that facility and in that episode has been clarity around the illegal case of Jade the Lord as a minor, and how they can move forward and how they will look forward. And I know Jed again he dust me out it like if he felt that there was something going on that was dramatically inappropriate for him and his team. I don't think jay Nor would be there. I just believe that in my heart. And I would imagine that when we have Jane DeVore, Hey,
how has this affected your team? He might say it's brought us closer. They got to know me on a deep level about me as a high school person, as a high school young man. I got to know them on a deep level. I'd imagine because it does one of them the two things right, either fractures it order brings it together. I'd imagine the ladder because he's here at media day. Yeah, I don't think jay would bring him if it was a negative reverberation from the locker room within the team. Okay,
Yogi, well thank you for your for your help. I was good talking to you. Enjoy tomorrow even even though coach Prime will not be there. But wish him the best, you know, like clearly health comes first. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't really excited to the interview for the first time. But that's okay, we'll get our time. He's not going anywhere. He'll be around for a long time. You have fun tomorrow, guys. Okay, Yeah, I think I think you can tell
him his voice that he's excited. Yeah, I think everybody there will be excited. Excited, um sort of short of jet fish or what's that's discussing and put aside. Well, there's gotta be some anst about it, right, Yeah, forget to drop. There's got to be some angst about you know what, what do we say? What are they gonna ask? Yeah? Sure, and hope hopefully the approach was okay, let's address it so
that we can get past right, right. And I think if you do it that way, you address it enough so that people will stop asking questions about it, then you move on. So I think that that's a actually a thing that they need to try and do. They try to They've got to get to a point where they're um, where they're uh sort of say enough, right, say enough so that it satisfies the satisfies everybody. They can stop asking questions and as they said, move on, you know,
you know, my my point to to to to uh Yogi. You know, everyone's got a quarterback like Jaane Delora, who one of the top quarterbacks in the league. Right, yeah, they're fig pick to finish eight. I'll tell you how good is this league? You know? I know, I know Yogi had to go. I would have liked to have, you know, ask him. Well, we'll ask it down the road, and
we'll ask it of some other people down the road. You know, I know they say that there's some college football playoff worthy teams in the league that you can argue the USC in Washington definitely, depending on how good Cam Rising comes back. Maybe Oregon is you know good Oregan's Oregon. But there's so many How does the team get through unscathed to get to the college football That's
been the problem forever. You have to be very very very good. I mean you're gonna have to be you know, Matt Leiner, Reggie Bush good right, right right to do that. And I don't know that anybody is who knows. We'll see, because you see has that probability you're you're voting or you're you're talking Washington, right, we'll see it's gonna they're gonna cannibalize each other, thankfully thinking that they're gonna do it. Maybe they don't.
I mean, this would be the perfect year here for the for the twelve team playoff to start, right if the team flaff starts this year, pac twalve gets two teams you think you think you think you know because you get an automatic bed and then and then may you know maybe but Jay, the four teams, Man, Jay, the games need to be play. They do need to be played, so we'll see you to be played. But
you know what we see today is potentially really some really good teams. And you know it's not gonna be easy for USC to come to Tusson and win. They probably will win, no, you know, Washington, Washington come, it's gonna be hard, and they know it's gonna be hard. They'll probably win. And I think they're gonna win, but it's not. It won't be easy here, right, Okay, let's one take the break. Let's say, let's go and take our break or we're gonna come back.
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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to the fourteen Cookie on Steve Rivera, Ja ginzas about fifteen minutes. If you guys want to call in, please do give it your capital impression of dude. He doesn't Yeah, he really is. Um. You know, I thought, I thought what Yogi said about Jane Delora was really interesting. Um. And I think, you know the expectation is that if they're bringing him he's got to talk right right when when when we uh, we last saw when we last you and
I saw him, they were preparing for spring right practice. Remember we were in there. I remember they're in that little room. And then we talked to him. He had gained some weight, he was prepared. He came off very good. Obviously I liked him. He was very very thoughtful and his thoughts very um, very good. Um. I'm thinking that's not gonna change. I don't think that's gonna change you are who we are. I
think he'll just be more careful in what he says. Yeah. Um, I think one of these things the kids don't understand how how influential they are this level, from little kids even to the adults. Yeah, no, you're you are, You're you're absolutely right. People, they listen for sure. How you're on the r and I on the ball. Yeah, this is Nico, man, Nico, what's up? Ain't nothing? Man? I listened to the podcast this morning when I was that work which one Yesterday's
Okay, who do we have on yesterday? Well we have Brad Alice had Yeah we did you let's do the whole two hours? Yeah, man, I had to do prep and stuff, But that doesn't matter. I agree with you, Jay, what you said at the end. Arizona is a football town. Where did you go, Nico? So what was the choice? Football? Or Rose Bowl or Final Four? Also, just you know when football is going, we're a football town. It's just that it has been going for a while, right, Nico, Exactly? And I think
the city thrives for football. Man, basketball is basketba. Well, what do you mean thrives? They wish for it to be good or what do you mean exactly do you do? You say that because you go to the football games but don't go to the basketball games. I say it like this, Man, if I missed a football game, I'm pissed. If I missed a basketball game, I don't care. Okay, Okay, that makes sense. That's it in the nutshell. Yeah, And I think that's I
think that's part of it. Again. I think when football those years that football a few of them that they're having the football has been really good or even just when you thought they were going to be good and you were having your foot Saturdays are a big deal and basketball, you know, game games kind of come and go. I agree with that exactly. I might be a little biased because I grew up with I was just gonna ask you. So you grew up here, what were you and you're like late twenties now.
I think we've been talking to you for a while. Now, what are your biggest memories? Man? When I was a kid, it was collecting cups and tickets stuff because they suck so bad, going in the game at half time. Yeah, but that's pretty much your memory that they haven't been good. Right, twenty fourteen, that was a good season and that was okay, ago, give me how many five? How many seasons?
Yeah? Five? Come on, But but seasons have been fun. There have been some seasons that haven't been great, but it still been fun nic. Would you agree with that? Hey man? Every time you're at you have a stadium, it's like a party around Jay though apparently people to sit down. Look, Dick told me had to run of seven and four seasons that we're all really fun. You know why because at the end they beat
Arizona State every time, and so those were fun. We look back on those as a fun time at least I do, hey man, But you are two sounds of football, Tien. There you go, Nico. I'm with you man, you guys. So I was in somewhere with some of my guys, older guys, older dudes, UM, and ask them the same question. I said, I don't know if you listen to you today, but I asked this. We asked this question, and what the choices between Rose Bowl and Final Four? If you if Final four has never been,
you've never been. It was split? It was split. Yeah, it was definitely split. Yeah. Um, and I kind of knew who would pick football, kind of who knew basketball. But of the eighth there, who was Okay, so let me ask it this way. Then, let me ask it this way back when Ludolson had just gotten here, all right, and we didn't know anything what it was going to be. Come sure, right, So let's say in the eighty or eighty five you're putting in there, you're putting me in that time frame? Yeah, okay,
okay, when you first got I already know what I'm gonna say. All right, let's take this call. You're on there and I on the ball. Hey Jay, this is done? Hey do um? I wanted to piggyback off a Nico was saying, but on a on a longer perspective, I'm born and raised in Tucson. I'm fifty seven years old. And when I was a kid, and before the Phoenix Cardinals came, everybody got to
choose their their professional football team. That's why there are so many Pitchburg fans in Tucson, Raiders fans, Cowboys fans, heck, even Dolphins fans, because we always got the top games on TV. So everybody got to pick of the best teams to be their team. But Arizona brings us together. We all did. Everybody likes football and we can't always agree on Sunday. But on Saturday, when the Cats are good, like Niko was saying this, this town rocks. When when when the Cats are good or when they're
fun like you said, when they're fun? Okay, dog, how many times is that? How many years has that been? How many times have they had? Yes? See, I think they've been more good than bad. Oh come on, no, I mean, look, we've had long stretches of bad, right then, we've had long stretches of bad. We've had some seasons that were roller coasters or you win one, lose one, win two, lose two, and then everything else. But at the end,
if we beat a su it's all good. We're you know, if we finished the season plus one and ASU puts us at that, it's a good season. Because let me ask you this, Steve, Yes, what's better no football? Would you rather be no football? I mean, because that's the attitude that that I hear from people that are from big cities, from major sports cities, that it's just college college but two sundays of college town. There's a big deal here. That's not a fair question to no
football. We give me something else. Well, let me say this though, you said, how many fun seasons? Yeah, every one of rich Rod's years was fun except one, which is the which one last three and nine season that they went remember when they didn't win They didn't win a league game until they beat ASCU. I don't even remember. They ran five thousand yards against a SCU in that game. But every one of his other seasons
were fun. They were seven and five seasons they you know, whatever ended up with a bowl game, those were all fun because the football was filled so done. To answer the question that we had yesterday Rose Bowl or Final Four, given that you had never been to either one in Tucson, Well, we haven't hosted a final four here in Tucson. But we've been to four. I say the question is if Arizona has not, let's just no final Imagine that Arizona has not been to a final four. Okay, never
been to one. Would you rather go to a final four or a Rose Bowl? I think a rose bowl? A rose bowl because it's one. Football is Football is bigger than everything else because one game, one game of football is like three games of basketball. It's a it's a whole week of baseball. So when you when you win one, it's that much better, and if you lose one, that's why there's that much worse. Done a
really good point, Donny, are you married? Yes? Okay, if you're not married and you get married, I'm gonna go to the dollar store and get you a present. That'll be my present because you're not you're not expecting much. I love you. Don well think to think about it. A Major league season is one hundred and sixty two games, and they just extended the football season to seventeen games. So one football loss is a ten game losing streak. Yeah good, that's yeah. Or seven game losing streak.
Yeah no, seriously, I hear you. I hear you. All right, go ahead. Well, I mean that's why it's such a big deal. I mean, and then now we have so much information that as a fan that tries to pay a ten mention to you know, the salary cap and everything else and all that stuff there, there's no joy in winning anymore because as soon as the game's over, you're worried about the next week. Yeah, well I'm going to I'm giving you paper plates for your I'm
past paper, past paper. Thanks the whole bunch. Man. Appreciate you, Appreciate the callee. Always talk to you. Appreciate, appreciate you, guys. Okay, where I was okay, perspective, Okay, where I was going is let let because we talked about imagine there's no final. Let's go back to the win when Arizona was just when basketball, you know, with Loot was just getting the foothold, and and you think of the two programs at that time, and football was really good at that time. People
love football at that point. If you'd have asked anybody, which would you rather right now? Would you rather go to the final four? Would rather go to the Rose? But I'd say ninety percent of people would say Rose I would say rose Bow at that time. I would say Rose Bowl at that time, And I would think that, I think realistically back and then you'd say final four, Come on, are you crazy fun? Rose Bowl? Yeah? Even today, I knew you're gonna go there, I'd say
Rose Bowl too. Yeah. Yeah, so I think and so I think that when when you're that's more of an apples to apples comparison back today. Yeah, yeah, because you already know what you've already experienced, right right, I mean when you know with the final fours, the Arizona got to have have I always been like, holy hell, this is I did not go to Minnesota. I've only been. I've been to I've been to two of the four I went. I went to uh obviously, I went to
City, then I went to Indianapolis. Yeah, and I'm not talking fun. I'm talking about prestige of the of the event. But you know, again, when when you're Arizona seven and four season on, beating as U was fun. That was fun for us. A winning season was fun for us. Oh, sure, you're winning more than you lose in football,
because it's hard to win for in football. Yeah, every one of those where we're hoping that, you know, they're gonna go to the Rose Bowl, and yeah, of course, but not getting to the Rose Bowl didn't make it a bad season, whereas not getting to let's say the lad eight or the final four ye expectations. Let me ask you, because I don't remember twenty fourteen, what were they predicted to finish? No, I don't
know. I'd have to go back and look at that, but I do know nobody thought they were going to the festival at the beginning, and then that year and then the year after. After having that year, you're expecting these things because everybody was back, but then you're I remember, actually, um either either making a comment on either on a on a either would there have been social media back then? Then on social media expressing the opinion that
Arizona was one game from going to the Rose Bowl in twenty fourteen. They've got everybody back, they got the quarterback back, they got Scooby right back, everybody's back. Why is an Arizona being talked about as possibly as a team that can win the league? Because it wasn't. It's what I member, and uh, well you know what they just listed, um in the
in the news relief, they listened. Okay, in twenty fourteen or for twenty fifteen, UM Oregon was picked to win the North, No, twenty fifty, Oregon was picked to win the North and USC was picked to win
the South. And Stanford won the North and USC won the South. But nobody was picking Arizona twenty fifteen, even though they had the whole team back and had successfully begin and had had had had been in the you know, you know, in New Year's sixth Bowl game the year before, and I didn't understand why that was, and I mean I knew why that was. It was because Arizona was Arizona. Yeah, okay, so we got Richard texted me here real quick. Uh, he's talking absurd. You go to
the Final four and hope it's in Pasadena. The Rose Bowl has lost its cache unless it's the Final four, unless it's today now. Yeah, yeah, U a football fans, long suffering. I hope this is a good year. And you gets he's right, and you're a perfect example long suffering. And you mentioned your dad. I mean, come on, he's still If he were still alive, they still wouldn't have got him to the Rose
Bowl. No, they still wouldn't have. And I know if I've got there were a bunch of a bunch of because my dad, you know, he came to all of our baseball games, so like Chris Lopez and Pete Russell and guys like him. I called him out in my eulogy to my dad, you know, I called out those guys for not getting into a rose ball. I think I think Dick was there. Well, I hope you. I hope Adam doesn't say the same thing to the next group. So you guys, but dad died and you never got into a rose ball
two generations. Oh god, Well, the rose Ball is gonna be harder, is harder to get to, not because it's a playoff, so it's different, you know. So my hope is almost gone, short of getting into the playoff and getting bracketed to go to the rose Ball to play to play your playoff game in the rose Bowl. Now, maybe I better shot at that happening when when it's a twelve team the league, but a twelve
team to tournament. But you know, almost kind of like crap, might you might never see a jay I know, and I and I've not gone to one. I could have gone to a couple of rose bows, and I won't go to one. I don't want to go to one until Arizona. That Arizona's in Yea, Now I might have to just to see one, just to see what it looked like. I think I would hate that. I might have to get really drunk at that to enjoy it. We gotta go, and man, that was a down. Okay, I'm off
tomorrow. You got Andy Brown coming in tomorrow right to be to fill in for me and a couple of great guests, so we'll uh. I'll see you guys on Monday, sir,