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You know, I was thinking, I mean, this is like one hundred and twenty years of Tucson sports knowledge sitting at this table right here.

That that and two dollars will give us a two dollars Is that?

Is that a compliment or is that a well?

The guy that puts us over the edge is Greg forty five, but my thirty eight year forty two. That's right.

So we're here at casino. Del sold the sole sports sports book. We've got Greg Hanson joining us for the two hours. Greg obviously got nothing better to do with his life than hang with us for a while.

Right, you can't use the mile. You can't do miles on this trip here for your taxes. Yeah, okay, but.

We're gonna be here for a couple hours leading into the first college football semi final tonight Notre Dame and UH and Penn State. There's also another game tomorrow and then the NFL playoffs get started this weekend. So if you're inclined to come and hang out watch the big screens here, put a little wager down. This is a great place to do that. It's a it's a great venue. I love it here. Might stick around for a little while after the show. Yeah, that's that's a smart move.

Starts a five thirty, so you know, you might linger and have some fun of a cocktail. And we have some some sales here right right, We've got we've got some specials to talk about. Let me let me get him up here because Veronica kindly sent him over. But as always, they've got uh, they got some some great uh some great names for some.

Of the for some of the specials. So Sunshow is still there, Sunshae, let me fight. Okay, here we go.

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I don't have that anyway, but there's some UFC stuff going on on Saturday as well. Uh, you can do all the all the betting on on kiosk here is if you don't feel like saying the line, or if you're like me, you like to go to the window, get a piece of paper, uh and watch your and watch your uh uh watch your game win. So but we are gonna be here for a couple of hours as we are once a month, and then we're gonna do this again one more time as we head into the Super Bowl next next month.

So yeah, sure, a lot of fun. Hey, a big day to day at you A right? U A football kind of they're trying to save save the future, so good, good moves, guys. What do you think I mean? I think so oh.

I thought it would be a stand up double if they hired the Boise State defensive coordinator who I thought was in the in the pitcher and they end up getting Joe Salavea is there assistant head coach and elevate Danny Gonzalez to defensive coordinator former head coach in New Mexico.

Right, I think it's more like a home run. I agree, And here's here's the things that, you know. I've come to.

The realization that, you know, the football offseason, people want to get caught up in who's getting recruited, who's in the portal, who's coming out of the portal, who are they getting who are the recruits. You're not going to know anything about this team until you see them on the field in September. Don't you think, I mean anymore, you can't. You can't even glean anything from spring practice. You think you got good guys, and you don't know

Not me, not you?

Right, So that's the best example. Nobody knew they were going to be good because they're a picked last right. And that's so.

Do you think if you win the portal? If you win the portal and what winning means, I don't know? Right, Well, that's the question. You win, You win the portal, and then you win in September. Yeah, I mean, but here's the thing. You don't know if you've won the portal, Well, you don't know, you know. I Mean, here's the thing.

I remember when Bill Bill Norton left, Okay, guy came from he came in from Georgia, had a great year with a you know, on the defensive line. I saw camp Scataboo make a format out of him in you know, in the in the bowl game or in the playoff game last week.

You know at Texas. How many plays did he play? Maybe eight? Ten plays? Sure he's get he played about five plays per game.

Yeah, so you know, I'm sure he got a bunch of money to do that. But you know, Arizona loses a guy and how good was he? He was great for Arizona, but was he Texas good? Apparently not? So you don't know, Steve, I think I think, you know, Arizona maybe getting all these guys. There's the receiver they got yesterday from Chattanooga, you know, an All American FCS guy. He might be Jacob Colling, or he might be we don't know, somebody else. And that's the weird thing is

Greg, would you happen to know, and I don't know if you want to disclose, but would you happen to know what the the NIL budget? If there is a budget? And what would you guess? All right here?

I talked last week to Gary Bernardi, head recruiting coach here for like seven years. His son's now the offensive line coach at West Western Kentucky. Western Kentucky Kentucky came after one of their alignement. Gary said they offered him three hundred thousand and he turned it down. He was going to stick with his buddies. They appealed to him. Two weeks later, Kentucky offered him five hundred thousand, and he left. Wow, I believe that one hundred percent.

That's true.

We can Play's going to tell you that because his son told him that, you know, you got our first gem. All right, So if Kentucky's paying five hundred thousand for a Western Kentucky offensive lineman, right, it's outrageous.

Messed up, It's just messed up. Yeah, who's going to go for what? Right? I saw yesterday in a story where he is eleven. I guess from the issue the quarterback his estimation is three million, three million for him?

Who who in Phoenix is going to give him three million dollars.

Or if it's three million, he's going to go if that's his market price in ASU doesn't give it to him and somebody else does.

That's where he's going to go. That's what his value is. And he's staying so so he's just one man. He's just one guy.

How did he get so out of whack so fast? I don't know the price of winning has gone to.

I mean, I mean what I mean, everybody, we all heard, whether it's true or not, that cam Ward got two million dollars in Miami. I mean, what's a what's a college? I look, we're doing get off my lawn kind of stuff here. But it's amazing that that the market is at.

In the same with right, That's why he's still here. Probably, yeah, well this is this is this thing.

And you know them, Greg, I know a few of them, the people with the money.

Shouldn't you or wouldn't you have buyer's remorse. Oh and if you got to renew it this coming year, it goes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, are you saying I paid this for that and you asking for more? And what if they're not any good? That's it. You know.

Let's let's say you entice a guy from Chattanooga to come here, say okay, we're gonna give you X.

Then he comes here and he socks. You know, what do you think about that investment?

And what do you think about that investment the next time you get asked to make it?

Yeah? No, I hey, I'm god, I don't have any money. No one's calling me, no one's calling me.

His performance was not worth one hundred thousand dollars that last year, Probably got paid more, probably get more of this coming year.

Yeah, you know, you hope that the new the new offensive coordinator you know, can can fix that. And you know, you like to think that, you know, a youthful guy with a youthful look at how offenses worked, that might get Fefeeda's value back up. But then again, you know what about what happens after that? And and and if you were if you were the one, whoever it is in Tucson, that's paying nor Fefeita. You know, he's got the tuss on in your National Airport ad that he's

I'm thinking Arizona's budget for NIL football isn't that huge because the players are getting are from low level schools.

Yeah, Mercy, Yeah, Chattanooga. Yeah. You just hope that they're good. You just hope that they're good.

Yeah, you know, and and and you know, you hear you hear coaches talk about the fact that I'd rather have a kid from a winning group.

Of four an FCS program.

He's got two years under his belt than a high school kid that we think we think might be good but as yet to be hitting the mouth in the college game. And that those guys, you know, you'll they'll take that experience over over somebody brand new, And you take your chances with those guys.

Gif you do both this, Okay, so you got this team and you're the coach. Now, I'm curious, Greg, if a coach or to pastor president from other schools are here have told you I don't like coaching in this situation. The kids will making one fifty fifty add more, and here I am having to yell at them and tell them and by blah blah, and they're probably saying in their mind, shut the hell.

Yeah, how does the UCLA basketball players bringing in two fifty think about what Mick Cronan said about him last night?

Exactly, you don't want me to play for you even more? Ad there. I would have fired him yesterday. But his payouts too much? Is it? Really?

Who would come to play for him? We've been saying that for years, Greg, but they keep coming.

There are averaging fifty nine points a game at UCLA.

Yeah, they're averaging fifty five hundred fans per home game. And if he hadn't inherited Homi Hawky has and Tyger Campbell, he would have been fired already.

Yeah. I don't know. That was crazy. So I got off the subject there, but you know, but agree, Steve.

I mean, this is it's turned everything upside down, and we know that, and and that's the way it is.

But you just wonder, you know, I don't know.

Maybe we'll see, we'll see things figure themselves out when the whole revenue sharing things starts, you know, in the in the fall or in the summer.

Right.

And that's what a lot of people are saying, is that, Okay, when everybody's paying out of their coffers, you know, how does it change and how important does nil come?

Is it still going to be important?

Are you still going to have to go get nil money for guys on top of what the school is paying.

Well, there's no question that's going to probably be the case. Yeah.

I think of Ohio stand and all those linemen. They're paying five hundred thousand dollars age. I mean in the coach we were paying.

He said two million, he said yeah, he said they had no twenty million, twelve twelve something, you know, multiple millions you know for for uh in nil for that team.

Yeah, it makes sense when you're trying to buy a championship and you may not even buy the championship, Well, you still got to win some games. Win some games.

That's the other thing to get the players guess what they still have to be coached. Yeah, don't end me the coaches, and you better be damn good if you're a coach, because guess what, your your your length of stay is not good unless you're winning. That was the case before, but now it's now it's quickly.

Well, let me throw this out there from a from a basketball standpoint, at a UFA basketball standpoint. You know the top that I have with, you know the you know the people that I hang with and stuff. A lot of discussion about how Arizona has suddenly flipped a switch or something and that and what it and the way the way we're diagnosing it is that you know, the three guards out there, love love, Bradley and and uh and kJ Lewis just didn't seem to be on

That's what your group is like, call it just came up and that's what we came up with.

And that and and that each was trying to get his own, whether it was to get in the NBA, whether it was to make more money or whatever, and it wasn't working there they're four and five, and maybe Tom got to them and said, guys, whatever you think you're doing, it's not working.

And something happened.

That's how we've diagnosed what's happened with this team over the last several games.

I have a different thought, But what's your thoughts. You can't take the money away from them, right, you can't take it away from them.

But if you're crappy, you're not going to make a bunch more money next year because if you're Caleb Love, you're not getting get drafted or kJ Lewis or whatever. And if you stay, who's going to give you money if your team doesn't make NC double a tournament?

Yeah, I mean kJ Lewis next year would be in New.

Mexico right right that And so I'd like to think that somewhere along the line, whether it was Tommy or somebody else, said, you guys got it.

You guys got to work this out. So the group that you hang with a few of them ten maybe I was give you ten have said this team has gotten better, Yes, the better. See, in my thoughts, maybe they played teams that they're just better than bingo bingo, and guess what they'll They'll play the next two teams better than they are. You know, they're better than But when the teams like Iowa State in the Houston's an not that come in, you're gonna say, well, they're not

But that's my point, Steve, is that they were playing like crap during all that time. But you know, you know Wisconsin and and and uh and you see, I mean you see Las turned out to be not a very good team.

That they that they.

Lost for Michigan is a pretty damn good play team as well. I don't know you were going to agree with me for a Right before the Cincinnati game, I went down their schedule and went, I wish I was a place where I could bet, because they're not any good. They've beaten nobody. Yeah, they've beaten nobody. So I wasn't surprised when Arizona pounded them. Yeah, and I looked at

Yeah.

Well yeah, I don't know, but they but Steve, it's still looks better.

Oh no, no, no, no question. It looks better what they're doing there.

There seems to be you know, I remember last time we talked about this, you know, I said that it looks like chaos over there, and and and it just looks better now.

No, it does look better. They're playing better together, at least part the Naked eye or whatever. But we gotta go. We gotta go. Before we go, we're gonna have Greg for two hours, right right, We're gonna have eron Torres at four seven.

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Basis Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty, I want to take part in the show called up Steam Now went five to two oh four one six seventy four for d.

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V John Robinson number two? Okay? And the Laney Snell Okay, okay, Wolfgang? Because did he he didn't win another one?

Did he?

Four in a row?

Plus?

Okay, I got seven hundred and seventy four wins. He's taking that aparts. Is one more than Dick McConnell in basketball, and McConnell plays so many more games.

Plus you know soccer. See, yeah, that guy's a he's the he's the grandfather of soccer and Tucson. He's about eighty something seventy eight seventy eight, okay, almost as old as you. That was cheap. I'm sorry you walked to Julian.

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Noted Dame in Penn State. But I you know, I didn't get a chance to read it. Are we in it? In what top one hundred. Like you said, what I was just receiving. There's a different list for you. J there's a different list you quit.

So I look, dude, I'm in my third or fifth year of stat keeping. It doesn't that count for something? Wait till the Pima College Sports Hall Fame.

Yeah, that's so we're talking to football obviously. Let me ask you a question. This is here question gree Uh, you're still doing columns for the Star and doing kind of the profiles Wendy just on Sunday, how would how would you have handled this year's football season? Critical?

Uh?

Insight? How would you have handled it? Because they were not any good? They were bad? I mean they were historically and you can lie to me here, but but I'm asking you a serious question. I'm glad I wasn't on it regularly because I really liked Dino Babors. Anybody who's been around him, Yeah, that guy's the first smart, smarty and he just mailed it in. He did buy out.

Babors came in and did Kevin someone and I I didn't have.

To write about that, and I and I that's how I kind of felt like, any man, this is the offense you ran in the you know, in the late nineties, and it doesn't work anymore. That's not how it works anymore. And and and the thing was that they persisted with that the whole nothing changed from game to game.

You know, he had not called play since two thousand in a two Wow.

Suddenly twenty two years later he's calling plays here. Yeah, yeah, that's not good.

That's not good. Whose feet do you put that at Brendan's feet?

Though?

For doing that and thinking that Babers was gonna good or did Babers convince him I can do this?

Well maybe a little bit about it. The Babors called me, I would said wow, I would have thought, yeah, how could we get a better guy than this Syracuse head coach? And then if you look at his background, though Syracuse was off looks at one ear, he did well bowling Green and they did well this year.

Yeah without his hand, wins without him. So so you talk about Babors, what about Brennan though you know him, you've done it for a long time. He came in and he was not dynamic. I mean, that's no better where I could find. It was just non dynamic. How would have that been?

Man?

He had no edge to him. He had no presence. This is my opinion. Yeah, of course, now you're you're I think you're right.

TV cameras a few times they showed him. He looked just like a spectator. How often do you see a head coach who are just standing there and okay, so that's what he's done this year. Don't you think, against whatever odds, that he has to change that. If you can't be that again, the.

New athletic director, she's not gonna let that go on again.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, you can't be Mike Stoops. But you there's today. In today's you know, college sports world, appearances are more important than they used to be. You can't be Dick Tomy on the sidelines anymore, which is what Brent Brannan was.

You know.

Yeah, I would see Dick, you know, get fired up a time, you know, and we can see Brent Brennan get fired up once in a while. But you're right, Dick would walk the sidelines and you say, who's doing the coaching right? And now they were good and you know a lot of times and so you thought, okay, he's got guys. But in this case, you know that the offense was so terrible, and you just didn't feel like Brennan was in control of that.

For some reason.

To me, he looks more like a head football coach and Jed Fish, but Fish would hold a play calling sheet up in front of his face, he put on headphones, he'd wear Advisor, and suddenly he looked.

Like a coach. People thought he was doing something when he was thought he.

Was calling, didn't have earphones on, nothing, to the point where people were getting pissed at his wearing those lays.

Well, okay, so if it's not I'm Brent, and he has to have assistance who are very capable, right, who are the if he's the CEO, if you will, because that's what Jed kind of was or whatever, so we thought that his assistants had to be carrying the shimp.

The one thing I would say about Brandon how he's changed since the season ended, is he fired the defensive line coach, Joe Simalo, who'd been with him for seven years at San Jose State, and it's about the nicest man you've ever met. He had to fire him in the last couple of days so that he finally had to do a real, real hard thing. Instead of just riding it out with his.

Boy and realizing that he can't just come here and load up with his friends and coach in in in in the FBS at the FBS level, at the Power four level. You know that maybe those guys and and I think you know he said this a couple of times, maybe this coaching staff got in over its head. Now you hope that in the year, the year of experience that they have, that they've they've figured some of those

How do you how do you overcome that? If that's who you are, that's the thing that's my question.

Like everybody else, you grow into your job, you know, Brent Brandan, it's not too old to learn and grow into a job.

And but the question is can he and will he do that?

Look at the look at the unchangeable guys, Rich Rodriguez, right, didn't hasn't changed, won't change.

So it'sohn Brannan. You can't be like Rich Rodriguez. Right, it's certainly, I mean for thinking this.

He's been told this, yes, sure by somebody, whether it's the ad, whether it's been a booster, a supporter, or whatever it said. Brent, you got to look like you're in the middle of all of this, and the way you look last year isn't going to work anymore.

Okay, So this is not just about him too, though. Now you have kids who are here to play for you, and all of a sudden, this is strange. This is a different guy that wasn't here last year. You know, your parents. You just either you're a good parent or you're a bad parent. And you come in the next year and think, all of a sudden you have the belt. You have the belt. The belt. Okay, but let me ask you.

Were you a better parent from the time you went your kids were born to when they were ten, they were fifteen, to they were twenty or were you the same parent the whole week?

Probably the same parent. Yeah, I thought I grew as it. I didn't know crap about raising kids. No, I thought I did. I was came from the school of my dad. Give him a look and that fixed thing.

Yeah.

Well, see I came from the school of my dad too and said, you know, I'm not going to that school as a parent, right and and so you do you do things differently. And you know what, It's funny because I'm different as a grandfather to that little course, to that little rat.

That we've got that I woke to Mike. That kid can get away with anything. That's that's the obvious book.

Yeah.

Yeah, and your parents, your kids were saying you never did that bus Yeah wait wait wait, I did that and I got in trouble. No, you didn't get in trouble that. You never got in trouble. You. I'm gonna show you trouble. I'll show you trouble. To my point is, it's a different dynamic. How is he going to change when you have another fifty forty guys who stayed here and have and played for you. Now they have to play different because the different coach. Uh, he's up against it.

He was awful, He wouldn't recruit. I saw him at the Tucson Airport one night, just randomly. He everything was an f bomb. Just got back from f and Frozno, what a waste of eff and time? Sent me out there to recruit somebody. And then rich Rod fired him finally four years later, but by then Salive was a star at Oregon.

So at least.

Brannan now brings back Salive, a guy when he's, you know, an industry standard and has to fire his buddy.

Yes, And I think that I think that says a lot about again, your growth, as you know, in a job like that, where he's come to the realization that I got to get guys who can coach, not guys who are just my friends.

You know, I'm a loyal to. He'll have to And I think I said this arrest us to the guys in the studio this week. How many wins minimal does he have to win this year this coming year? Seven minimalis that's a that's a tall task, Jake.

He's still got players he's still got the most important position that you have to have, and that's a quarterback who who has shown that he can be really good.

I think he's I mean maybe it's six. Maybe it's getting to a bowl game.

Oh.

I think you're probably right though, But is he is he? Is it gonna happen? Seven? Oh? It can.

But you know I and I say that only because a SU you're just right using them. Yeah, I mean their case study. They were because because year before last they were not only not good, they were really, really really bad. You look at what Arizona did to them. I mean that was that was you know, determine that we using my kids. That was Saint Gregory against Greenfields right in basketball, you'd beat him eighty to four. That's what that That's that's who as U was. And then

Give me a number.

You know, they played Kansas State and that third game, I win the first two. If they can beat Kansas State here, that would give them three, and I think they could win three more to get into six. I wouldn't go beyond six right now. I mean I've been in this room once when Arizona's in Vegas as are one and a half, and my buddy put a lot of money on Arizona winning.

Two and we didn't get it. Don't say anything that seven seven is a tough time. Well, I think the way he posts the question is what what do I think fans will be? Okay? Well, no, no, no, I don't care about fans. I'm telling you, Desiree, she's the way I think.

I think if he wins six and it's a good six, right, maybe they have a surprise win, right. Uh, you know some you know, I don't want to cause a statement when we thought the Utah game was a statement win last year and it turned out to just be what should have happened. Right, But you know, you you beat uh, you know, you beat b y u or and then you beat as here or whatever. I think six wins will work. Seven wins might not be enough if it's

The key component here is Desiree. Yeah, because she didn't hire him, m hm, you don't know what she thinks of him. Maybe she has a guy in mind. She loved Marcus Royal, she hired at U and OLV and has no issues coordinator. Maybe she's just not gonna Maybe she won't be willing to go to the next actually are to them, and she has yet to make the mark with something like that. Well again, and I agree that. I mean, if he has a losing season next year,

There's some there's some questions about it. Yeah, so we got to go right Yeah, where we are we do?

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Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on Tucson sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Hey, welcome back to Way on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

I'm Steve Rivera. I have my eye on day gonzolate. I have to Now we have Jeffrey Linndheimer, the manager here at sol Sport. What's that I think having Jeff.

Thanks so much and I hope all you you and all your listeners at a great.

Christmas in New Years this place rocking for New Year's Yes, absolutely, they were rocking and rolling in there.

Yeah.

I bet good time. Yes it was.

Uh yeah, you had that that postponement of the of the night game that day. How did that affect things or did it just get you more in the book of since they played it the next day.

Well, our house rules state that football games must be played on the date.

Uh and scheduled venue.

So actually, anybody that bet that up until the post bone and just had no action on that game, so they have to re buy it exactly and then and then the uh uh the corrected date went up at about noon.

On New Year's Day, and everybody that betted after that of course had action.

Yeah, well, how are you gonna settle out?

You got a similar thing coming up right with the possibility that that rams uh uh, the Rams Minnesota Minnesota game might have moved to Phoenix.

What happens there?

I heard about that?

Yeah, yeah, Rams Rams uh many might get moved uh to Monday and possibly a change of you. So uh again, if you you bet it and and uh what Sunday is the is the date. If it gets postponed, it will be no action. But that's just the way it happens sometimes.

Is that rules here or everywhere?

That's rules here.

Each individual sportsbook will have their own uh house roles on that one. But if they do change the venue, I would expect the points spread on that one to change. Right now, You've got Vikings a one and a half point favorite. They go to a neutral site, you might see the Rams getting two and a half possibly even three of the dog favorite or something like that.

Yeah, okay, So how how has the action been on on the playoffs? Has that been a boon for you guys for the college football playoffs for you know, more more interest, more activity on on those particular games as opposed to bowl games in the past.

Absolutely.

Now that we're down to the final four, we're getting a lot of action on on on on all sides, all four of those teams.

We're getting bets on them.

Uh.

And tonight's game, we have Notre Dame slight favorite over Penn State and they're about a one point favorite and.

The total is forty five. So I can tell you the sharp money on the under in that game I heard tonight.

Yeah, a lot of that.

It's forty five and a half or something like that.

Went from forty five, it came back to under forty forty five. And I'm here in Notre Dame's looking to run on the ball. So there's some smart money on that side. But you know, forty five is alone enough totally. It can go over that just by accident. So that's why that's why they call it gambling. That Texas game was under the other day.

Yeah, I'm sure this place was pretty packed for the ESHU game given the situation.

Oh that was crazy. That was an insane game. And what a comeback by Asu they had. They were down sixteen with about eight and a half left touchdowns to to two point conversions.

Then too missed.

Field goals right by a Texas kicker, and and then uh and then it looks like they had it.

It was fourth a SU had it. It was fourth and thirteen and.

Not just probably a probably a four to five to one favorite at that point for fourth and thirteen and and and they got the protection the kid through a touchdown pass and then the first play after that it was another twenty five yard pass and then that was it.

This might be a dumb question just pertending to that specifically. We know there's a lot of issue people here to go up to tempted to go to school, so the action is different than the Wildcats. Then with the issue, how is it different?

There is it?

Oh? It was, it got It got pretty heated in here.

There was a lot of you know, Texas fans and a SU fans, and uh, yeah, it got it got pretty crazy and for a.

Little bit security, Now do you guys do live betting here in the games? Absolutely game betting.

You do absolutely in game betting, uh, even while while the balls and you know what, while there's a drive going on, and of course during the commercial breaks as well, there's uh the lines constantly getting updated.

Well, let me ask you about that, and if you in mind, I ask him the question on this, do you guys monitor here and do you change do you decide whether you change a line or not? Or do you follow somebody out there that you know? Do you just do you keep an eye on all of it? I mean, what what would cause you to change a line on a game? Uh that you're doing here?

Well, we have somebody handling the uh the line part of it, moving the lines. I will call them to adjust the line based on on on my experience and and uh what I know about a game and what other lines are out there. Sometimes I'll call and I'll have them adjust the line, and uh I control the uh how much we take on it? It's uh gambling is the formula is edge times volume and the edge that that has to do with uh the spreads we offer and the markets on these games, and then the

That didn't go out on the air. So so just you talk about all that stuff. I wanted to ask you about the thing that Jay was so intrigued about last time we were with you, is the lines that don't involve teams playing against each oldren I forgot, like you can bet order Dame against Ohio State.

Yeah, cross game matchups, yes, you know, yeah that that we have those and as well as all kinds of player props in uh the pro sports. We can't offer player sports in college of uh player props in college of course, but yeah, we.

Were taking some taking some plays on the on that RAMS game.

It's uh gonna be very interesting this weekend with the the two l A teams because uh, personally, when I when I see teams that have something extra to play for, like these two l A teams and they're gonna be playing with their town in mind, and uh that's uh that's a very formidable uh force to go up against. And uh usually they're playing those teams or I won't play it.

You know, we all hear about these massive bets that get put put down in you know, some of the Vegas casinos and whatnot. Uh what what size of a bet would it take for you to say, Okay, we've got to move a line, you know, based on one bet?

Is is there a number?

It's not how much we take that moves the line, it's who we take it from that moves the line.

I might what does that mean?

It means if a person is uh generally sharper, okay, and you know who they are, Yes, sir, Now.

Your customer, that's another customer.

I mean, we might take one hundred thousand dollars bet on a halftime total and not even move it.

So so if Steve walks in right throws one hundred g's down on a bed, you're not going to do anything.

You're okay, We're gonna take your money. That's Stay, that's.

That Stave will take a hundred large from it. My friend Stayed.

This other Steve I know will take about five hundred from me because he's one of the sharpest guys.

Yeah.

Yeah. The funny thing is you know who these people are.

Yeah, that's an important part of the process.

Sure, I'm bad, I bet. Yeah. You get nervous when games like big games happen when you get that this is what you do. But do you get nervous?

I mean it's exciting, you know, and you want to win. I get emotionally involved. Then again, heck, yeah, I don't. I don't call it nervousness. I call it excitement. And then uh, and sometimes I get disappointed and and and I can get upset, but uh, I let that last for about ten to fifteen minutes, and then I'm and.

I just gas.

Yeah, thousands and thousands, as.

We say, you know, take the next bus, that's.

What you gotta do. Yeah, but sometimes they just disappoint us.

Yeah.

Does it ever feel to you like it's your money that's going in and out of here?

You know?

I mean you're managing the business, so you know, your job and all these things rely on you know, you're doing a good business here.

Do you ever see it that way?

As you know, I know it's not your money, but do you feel like it may be, you know, because you have a stake in it?

Well?

Yeah, I mean, what what other way is there to feel about it? I want to do the best uh for the book and the uh Paskwayaki tribe. They brought me in here to do to do a job, and I take it very seriously. Yes, yes, sir.

How many times in a year and there's thousands of game that you want to turn all that stuff you see after the game he said, you know what, guys, that was just a bad line and we kind of knew it, but we couldn't do any with it.

Yeah, I mean, you can't force the public to bet a certain way that that you want on a game, and you just, uh, but a sports book is gonna hold the percentage they deserve at the end of the at the end of the day, through thousands and thousands of decisions, yeah, you know, and you're gonna be heavy on all kinds of stuff.

Rarely are you actually balanced on a game.

But it's, uh, it's the thousands and thousands of decisions that that just even things out.

Okay, So as a I know sometimes gamble, I guess you would call me. Yeah, that's what I would.

We we all.

We always hear about you know. We obviously don't take this advice, but you know, we we get told all the time. The parlays are the sucker bets, you know, but people like those because it's like, okay, make one bed, I got two games and stuff like that, as opposed to just betting X amount on X game or x over under whatever.

Is that a true statement?

No, it parlays.

Actually, you can beat a joint pretty good with the parlays if you have edges and all the selections on the parlays, because the parlay increases volume. So if you're winning at a high percentage, actually, uh, once you reach a certain percentage of over fifty percent, your parlays will bring you a better return than straight that's well, because you're increasing your volume because of the money.

Snow, well the number would be like fifty five percent, right, if you're you're picking fifty five to fifty six percent.

Straight bets, if you want to break even, you got to hit about fifty three percent, that's right.

But if you're hitting a higher percentage than that, parlays can be pretty can work out for you.

Yeah, I'll be living with the If you're kind of splitting out, you know, then yeah, straight bet may might might be the way to go.

But so so here we are in the playoffs with the college and we have the playoffs with the NFL the next few weeks, maybe a month or whatever.

Before the Super Bowl? Is this the best time of year with.

It's it's certainly is one of the best times as far as UH, betting interest and and and fan interest goes. And this this this year in college football, this, this is gonna be a great. Uh, it's gonna be a great next couple of weeks. You know, you got Ohio State six tomorrow over Texas, and then uh, they're going to play the winner over the Notre Dame Penn State game. I saw projected lines for all the matchups, and uh.

This looks like the best.

Uh.

Texas looks like the best chance to get Ohio State out of there this week as a five and a half six point dog, because they're projecting Ohio State to be seven and a half over a Notre Dame and an eight and a half point favorite over Penn State if they match up.

So yeah, yeah, that's.

Gonna be Yeah, teachers, looks fantastic. I already gave the point. Yeah, yeah, of course, don't tell me what you picked.

All right, we're here with Jeffrey Lennheimer from the manager of the Soul Sports sports book here at the Casino Del Sold.

Jeffrey, we all we love the knowledge. Man.

I don't know if it makes me a better gamber, but I love the knowledge. And I don't know if you sleep. But do you sleep, because you're probably here all the.

Time, all means by all means, do I sleep? Yes, sir, my second favorite past.

All right, we can't let you get away with that asking about your daughter and her baseball team.

How's that going?

Oh yeah, fantastic. In fact, they were they were out in Los Angeles. Uh, she was out there with their ball girls in a tournament and that was a New Year's Eve. And then it's crazy to think that, Uh, what's happened?

Right left?

Then awful stuff over there right Well, Jeffer, thanks for being with us again as always, appreciate it, man, and thanks for having us here. We love it. We love being here. There's a lot of fun, my pleasure, gentlemen. Good to see you, bless you on your listeners, Thank you, Thanks you.

Jeffrey Lennheimer from the Soul Sports Sports Book. Uh, we're about to go to break with this. If we've got another hour here. Our buddy Vic is over here, all geared up in Arizona gear old school a block a over there on on.

Uh, just good question. Good question. Yeah.

So, and Greg Hanson is going to be back after the break, we're gonna talk some more about you know, some football break break. I'm a working mon dude. We already talked about it exactly with some breaking you. So stick around here, Soul Sports Sports Book. If we got another hour, if you want to come and hang with us for a little bit, we'll be here. Greg Hanson is going to get back with us, and uh we'll kick it around for another hour. So stick around