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Thursday pod, Hour 1
− What are fans focused on during an Arizona football game?
− Former Arizona basketball player Joe Turner goes back in time to his time at Arizona in the 1980s.
− Covering teams and games is different today than it was when Steve and Jay were with the local papers.

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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Novace Services. Hey sure your most prized possessions kat z R two side at iHeart Radio stack yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody, welcome to I on the Ball. Here. I'm Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jakin Zazz here for Thursday afternoon. If you like to call us five two zero four one six seven four four zero, don't call me. I left my number yesterday. That was That was.

That was a tough one. I probably used half to half this one and half my number When you looked at me, I since what did I say? And then I realized I probably say my number. Good afternoon, everybody, welcome, welcome to the show. Looking forward to this one. Yeah, yeah, we've got Joe Turner coming in at three fifteen. When's the

last time you spoke to him? Well, you know, I saw him at a couple of but briefly at a couple of You know, you have a events that he might have been here for, but never really spent any amount of time talking to him since his forever his daughter used to play here, right, And I think that's I think I saw him here a couple here following her, but you know, just to say hi and uh, you know, pat on the back kind of thing. But not really he's had a chance, you know. But he was the same Joe Turner I

remember. And you know he's always a smile on his face. Smiling Joe Turner. He's a cast of characters. They're in for the the camp this weekend. They're all coming. He's him, Pete and Uh and Craig are all driving down from Phoenix after flying in. So he'll be on the He'll be in the car, in the car, all three of those guys be in the car. Yeah, that sounds bad crowd right there. Well, I think a bad crowd many years ago. Well it's an old bad crowd.

Now it's just a crowd except for Pete Pets Well he's got knee surgery, so he's not his mobus. But so it'll be fun with Joe go back and reminisce about some of the crazy guys. And still Dunk. Uh you remember because he posted peaked Dunk before the legging. He posted something today. Remember the game twenty years ago when they played the game and they kind of build Kale. He looked like you can still play pull down Town rebounds. Yeah, now he's still you know, it still looks good. Guys

are all in their fifties, so I don't want to take fifties. Don't want to talk about these guys look good. I think Pete might be almost six yor didn't you didn't we have them like right after he's about you know, he's because he finish, No, he finished. He has to be because he's about two years older than me. That yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the good guys. One of the good guys. Picky is all here. I shouldn't say that publicly, but it's great that these guys

are coming in there and continuing. Yeah yeah, he's the thing. I know. There's a lot of people here in town who love being a part

of that fantasy came. They're there and they're just you know, the good old days, right, And I still say, I don't know if you'll argue with me or not, but they are the firstborn and a favorite child the eighty eighteen they continued and probably the most favorite team for those who can remember, just just in terms of liking the guys yeah, because you know, again, they were the first ones that that got Arizona to sort of

the promised land. I know, you had guys, you know, the Miles Simons and the Mike Bibbies and t J. McConnell's and guys that have come through here. The people have you know, really fallen in love with, you know, Richard Jefferson, Luke Walt and all those guys are a whole bunch of guys. But you know these are kind of like the big brothers of all those guys. Jimmy. Uh again, I don't know if you agree with me. Eighty eight versus ninety seven, who wins eight eight?

No question? Yeah, not even close. Yeah, yeah, I because I think eighty eight was KG here. They had together right there. There wasn't a guy on the ninety seven team that was like Sean Elliot, no, right, and they and while Mike Baby was a really good point guard and a really good that's the edge. I think that's the edge. You know, he was not the shooter. I mean, I'm Arizona.

That eighty eight team had three guys that could make a three point you know, with with Ellie McMillan and Kurt that could make a three pointer from anywhere. The closest time, the closest one to Sean was Michael Dickerson, who the first step could get some but we all know that he faded in the tournament and and and he didn't have They wanted to spite him. Yeah, and he you know they didn't and they didn't. He couldn't do the things

Sean Alley could do. Who could, right, he could score when he was on, he was on, but when he was not doing well,

like and Everyzona still won the tournament without him playing well. Right, oh yeah, yeah, Like I you know, when I think of Sean Elliott, and it's always my first vision is and I know it was in a loss, in that final four loss, but when he went down the lane, uh you know, just took that like you said, he had that first step, went down the lane on his defender and dunked and nobody could

get in his way. And it's to me it's one of the great all time dunks in Arizona basketball history, a because of when it happened and be just what it looked like. I just remember, you're going really loud exclamation, you know, not you're in because I was cheering ARIZRMA. It was it was I was cheering the play. Just yeah, the plight unbelievably. You just went, whoa, I've done that a few times. Yeah when you see yeah yeah, okay, so no that he's coming and counting in.

What about the second half and then second half we're gonna have Lamont love it. Uh, color guy for Arizona Football Radio, Wildcat Sports Tweave ninety. You know, he's he's the he's the color analyst. We'll we'll talk to Lament about what he's been seeing, uh, you know, at at camp, what he's talking about, What what he's thinking about this team? You know, I want to ask Lamont. You know, he's a he's he was a running back at Arizona. What does he pay attention to most

is hell? Is he looking at the running back or because he's of his job, does he kind of spread himself around and look at everything. I'd love to know what, you know, what's his priority when he's looking at it. That's funny because I was thinking the same thing. You were just thinking that what does he see? Because you know, we you we you and I have different eyes. And he was a player and he was a

player. What do they go see? Yeah, you know that's like I asked brute Bryan Bryan Jefferies over the weekend, So what do you see? Well, okay, see and I don't know what I see. You know, I see play, and I see guys doing stuff, and I see guys making plays. But I don't technique. We don't know all that. You know, they run a certain play and certain things were supposed to happen. I don't know what it's supposed to. Look. This is us.

That's Pete Lucas fast. That guy could jump and catch the ball. Just the flow's got a body. The Lawd's got a nice arm. These guys is a big dude stuff than us. And that's cool. That's that's our analysis. And I hope, I hope people out there listening don't take that, like, okay, acter, I'm turning this off because I don't learn anything from me. They come for the comedy. Hey, we're just like

everybody out there for the comedy. We're fans. We're you know, we see or we you know, we're out there spectating with spectator like use fact take We'll see what it looks like when the games in fact in fact, if you guys want to call us the five two or four six thirty four forty. When you go to the game, or if you go to game, what do you see? What do you look for when you go to the game, you watch the game, Yeah, but you don't look for

anything right now. I'm not watching a linebacker, you know. I mean I can notice things like I know if Arizona is getting abused on the line right because you see, because you can see that guys are in the backfield they're not able to run the ball. Or you know, I can see that somebody's offensive line is pushing Arizona around. You know. I see things like that, But I don't see Okay, the nose tackle needs to you know, he needs to do this and do that, you know, or

the linebackers aren't filling the hole or whatever. I don't see that. I see. Did a play work or didn't it? I see down in distance? Did you get the first down? If you didn't? How close are you are you going for it on fourth down? You know you're on third and two. Are you gonna throw the ball? You're gonna run the ball? I don't see what a play looks like. Strategy right. And and if you if you want to call you go to the game, what do you look at? You just go watch the game? Do you make try

to you know, is this a run play? This is a past play? Who they're going to go to? You know, I don't think that's too much going. You want to have to be entertained. You know when when with the rich Row teams, I know that I was always looking down on when they were on offense. I was always looking down field for a past instead of look instead of watching the ball, watching the quarterback. You know that they would snap the ball and I'd look to see where the receivers

were going and then look back real quick. Oh we're about row fifty six, so that's good. Good, But you're in the corner two right kind of well, we're in about the ten yard. So I love those seats. I love those seats because it's kind of where we are in basketball. We're up high, we're on the end zone. Issue that the field opens up. You can see you can see the plays happened when we were on the floor. You know, great seats, But I know I would rather

go work. We have a little bit of an angle. Let's say let's say they're on the about the fifty yard line, going away from us. You can really see the field, see the defense and see you see holes open up for a running back and stuff like that. You can gotta see, oh he's open. You know he's gonna catch. Well, you know you already know what's gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah, when you're on the

floors, you don't really don't know. So that's not I yeah. You know, it's funny too because like there're been road games, right or we're sitting in the end zone and we think, oh god, we're in the end zone. But those aren't horrible seats because they're either coming at you or they're going away from you. Now, of course when they get to the other side of the field, it's real hard to see. You see, and you see more stuff. You have the big screen. Yep, you

see more stuff. But you know, again, I it's not I'm not very deep in terms of what I see. I see, you know, I see a play run, I see whether or not it works. You know, I may notice that, you know, the quarterback throws a you know, he throws a ball to a receiver he's covered. He had this guy open over here. I don't know for sure that he was that he was open, And we got a call her. Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey, this is Bill. Hey,

Bill, what's up? Hey? I sit in the north end zone, just outside the left hash, looking towards the south, okay, And I used binoculars and I watched the line, and I see all the holes opening. I see who's blocking good because I think the game's won in the trenches, on the offensive line or defensive line. So I get to see that really well how much usually as much the whole fields of my vision. So I see the quarterback and I can tell the receivers are opening at the quarterback

hit him, So I like those see I didn't. I didn't really want him at first, but I've grown to really love him. How much do you focus on that though? Maybe don't actually see the total play because you're watching the line, or do you just watch the whole play develop? I watched the whole play develop and then, but sometimes I get caught up in a in a one on one situation or a double team situation, and I

miss I missed the play. But I can look at the big screen and see the replay really easy too, because it's right up in front of us. So do you is that is that? Do you enjoy the game watching it like that? I love it. I love it. I used to not take binoculars, and I brought one of my older baseball coaches to a game with him one time, and he had binoculars and he said he let

me use them. After that, I was I was hooked. Yeah, because it's like it's like you're setting right, You're like you're almost on the field with him. It's it's awesome. Yeah, anticipating what's gonna happen, that's kind of cool. I don't know, it's too technical for me. We take we take bets before the play with my kids and stuff. It's gonna be a runners, they're gonna be a pass. You know, did the did the running back hit the whole ride or it was a hole to

the left and he cuts the ride or we love it. It's it's it's a good time, especially for winning. You were Vegas before Vegas. That's cool. That's very that's very fun. That's a very cool way. And I you know, I know some people who you have gone to those North end zone seats, and I think, like you were like, well, I'm not you know, but you know, the chairbacks and then you know the whole nice, nice section. And I know my brothers has been sitting

there and he loves it. He loves those seats. I said about eight rows up from the field, and so you got to be careful during warm ups. You get you get hit with a field goal that you know, pretty good bills He thanks. You know, I think there's a lot of people who do that. I'll tell you one one one time, you know,

watching from from that vantage point down on the field. You know, when I was covering, covering the team, we were down, we were down on the field and I think it was I'm pretty it wasn't away game, and we were like under the goal post right or you know, sort of in the middle of the field in the end. And that's where I saw realize the speed of the game. You know, Ronnie Viale was the

quarterback. I have this vision he was the quarterback, you know, and and I remember the first play I saw and they snapped the ball and the way just this total chaos broke out on the line, and I'm like, how does he see what he's supposed to do, you know, I mean I was almost you know, Ronney Vielle was five five eleven. I'm almost as tall as him. I can't see past the guard, you know,

and it was really cop and then how fast it was. Yeah, we'll see what the quarterback at well, the today's quarterback, you know, the phoenix, all the all the smallest quarterbacks. I don't know how they do it. The offensive lines aren't aren't six two, they're six four things five. Yeah, but but it's not just it's not just how tall they are. It's all the movement that's going on. And how do you look past that? Next to see what you've got to see? Next one we have

John Peter. We'll ask him about we got Well, okay, Hi, you're on the r and I on the ball. Yeah. When I go, I go to the east side and I get up high, up high, and you can see, I mean you can watch. You can be like, oh, there goes Khalil Tad. He's about the store a touchdown. Of course that only happened for like five games. And then yeah, to read that up. I remember being up there and the game where trunk candidate ran all over and being I was almost in the end zone, way

high, and it was it was so exciting. You could see stuff spread out. Now you gotta walk and walk and walk and walk and walk and walk and walk. And you guys know that that is a trump but it's wonderful, especially when that game that was one of my That game, I'll never forget. That was just crazy game. So you're the second Are you in the second level in the upper deck? Right? Oh? Yeah? Way? The hail up there like nose Bleeds City, like the bats are

up there with us at night. But they're not. They're not that seats because for the reason, you see everything. Yes, even if you're on like the five, because that's where you end up being, you can still see. The Only problem is if you're looking way down the other end. I don't like being lowered down. I just don't. It doesn't it it doesn't. It doesn't do it for me. On the other hand, I can't get anybody to hike up there with hey, hey we gotta we gotta

go to our break. But thank you for the follow dat. No, that's true. I think those those seats, those type of seats are under sold or undervalued. If that makes any sense UF because I like, they're not horrible. No, no, they're not horrible. I know people tend to say I want to sit down low, but you set up high and you can set right. All right. Let's take our break. Word to be back. A smiling Joe Turner coming up right after the break. Be

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Jaken Salaz they have their eye on the ball. On two salms sports Stags yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean iHeart radio. Wap. Hey, welcome back to one of the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacob's as now on the phone, we have smiling Joe Turner. How you doing, Joe, Hey, I'm doing very well, Steve. Thank you for having me on. Yes, yeah, great to have you have you on. I haven't seen you in a little

bit. You missed last year's camp. Who are you with you two buddies? Yes, sir, I got Pete Williams, he's the driver, and we got next to him Eddie Smith and in the back of me as Craig McMillan. Oh, and he's with you two. Okay, God, God, you guys could take a left and do whatever you guys want. Don't have fun, you guys. You guys sound like an over fifty All star team back there. Man, Holy cow, oh yeah you can. You can put a couple up us. I told Pete the uh, just just

stick to sign an autographs right now. Well, we were talking before we went on the air. I'm like, how many of these guys can dunk? Okay? Have the four you guys, how many of you can still do well? Pete? Pete gets a pass because of the leg, but yeah, he gets a pass on the dunking. Nah, I think I'm the only one. Maybe slim can still done. Maybe two out of the we got fifty percent? All right, Maybe we should ask it this way. How many how many of you can dunk without hurting yourself? We should

ask it that way. You may have to have a hand you hand close five because the come land that's kind of gonna be the that's that part. Well, welcome back. Let me ask you a few a few things. What how does what does two song feel in your heart when you come back? Where is it? Uh? Well, Steve, first of all, I like to say thank you to you and Mike Vader for keeping the Ludolson's Vanity Camp relevant and having us come back here, because that's a big that's

a big deal for the Tucson community and the fans. So without question, coming back to Tucson has always been a great feeling for me, and it's my family away from California, and it's very comfortable and I'm excited to be back there. Well, your daughter went to school here, right, so you you got to spend some other time here as well. I mean, why why Tucson? Why does it becomes I know, I mean I know why, but I mean, what is it about that the special in your

heart? Tucson? The community there, they embraced us when we were chest kids and we really felt a love and Coach Ludolsen. It's always been about a family with with Coach Olson, and that connection went out to the community and we always had that ever since we come back. We got the greatest fans in Arizona, be any school out there. And just talked to one of the co workers the other day and he was like telling me, he says, two sons got the greatest fans Arizona. The alumni there's like none

other in the in the in the US. Does it does it seem like what eighty eight? What is that? Thirty five years? Thirty five years, thirty five years, Joe, Hey, thirty five years and that's that's awesome, Joe, Joe, let me, let me. Can you tell me? This is this story that I think Pete's told a few times about dropping a quarter outside of the car. I mean that was with Craig Dreg mcveillan. Uh, at the the Mercury Leagues, and we used to beat

guys. We needed gas money back then. So Craig make a bet that Joel Turner can pick up a quarter without opening up the door. And uh, all the football players and the baseball guys would all take that bet, you know, for two three dollars, and uh we win every time he just reaches out. Well, I you know, I gotta say you think

of that. The first road trip when I was covering you guys, went with you guys to or one of the first road trips, went with you guys to San Diego State, and Steve Condon invited me to go have dinner with you guys. You went to Anthony's, a place in San Diego, and I just remember I'm sitting at the table. I'm all the way at the end, and all of a sudden, I see this hand go past me, pass the guy to my right, and pass me, and you

reach for something in the plate of a guy to my left. And you were two guys to my right, and I'm like, what the hell you were picking up something out of somebody's playing I think that wingspan was seven foot four or seventh three. So well, and then I wasn't you know, yeah, and then you gotta you gotta throw in the length of the fingers because I just remember that was it was like the up until that point, that was the biggest hand I had ever seen. And that was when I

was playing at Arizona. They thought it was all about the jumping. They thought I had a pretty good vertical, but it was all about the arms. Yeah, he's one of the guys that get still dunk. So, Joe, you've always had this humor. Where did you get your humor? Before I tell the joke about a couple of things? Where'd you get that? Well? I've always been on a pretty easy going and you know, I love life and I like to have fun and you know, so it's

it's been I've been that way since I was a kid. You know, I never took things right too seriously, so I think just as an adult, it just carried over. So, okay, here's the first story. Uh, and you're you're nineteen twenty years old, and I know this is kind of silly because it's a dead joke kind of thing, but you're in an elevator. Can tell me more? Yeah, in the elevator and uh where I believe it was. Oh, I don't I can't remember where. We were in an elevator and I and I and I told him, I

think I told Pete. I said, I think I could tell you what Florida Where Florida We're gonna be coming up on next And he was like, man, how can you tell that? And I said, because I have ESPN, I thought you were. I thought you were telling this to a couple of old boosters there you go. Man, Well and that's look And I honestly, John, I mean, I think that's one of the reasons this Tom fell in love with you, because you just said, you know,

you were that guy. You know that's that season in eighty eight. You know you were a senior. You know, you knew your role, you had your role, you contributed. They couldn't have done it without you. I just feel like this place is really you were one of the guys that they kind of adopted sort of because you were you know at the very start of all of this. Did did you kind of feel that Well?

I came in and I was willing to accept whatever role with Luke. Luke gave me, and uh, we understood coming in that we were gonna be very competitive and there was gonna be you know, and on any given week, any one of those guys could come in as a starter. So every practice we have to work our butts off and you know, make sure he didn't slack off, because that was you know, it wasn't to guarantee that

you were going to be on the floor. You have to work for it, and that was a good thing about He made sure that you worked harder just as hard in practices, Uh, to prove that you wanted to play the game. Yeah, no questions. We talked to to Craig earlier and I got him to talk about the fishing stories that he had with you guys in Luke. You know, Luke had no idea what he was doing fishing, but he was telling you guys what to do, right, what's your

what's your what's your favorite memory of him? Hey? We were well because any time like we when you're on the boat with Craig and you're we're fishing for salmon, and everyone's got a designated pole while we're out there, and so each each one of the guys we got like four poles in the water and everyone's watching their own pole. But each time any poll would hit with a salmon on it, coach, I would jump up and grab that pole. I got this, I got this, I got it, I got

it. And then the other times in our coach coachure, I, you know, like the salmon, the bite, the bites off, and it's time to go, you know for five o'clock drinks, and uh, coach all is like giving Craig's directions like go around the booty a couple of more times, Craig the bites over there, and so Craig's like, coach,

is time to go in He's like a couple more times. Craig's like, okay, coach, but what about what about on the court, because you weren't Tober, you know, he was always on tbur Was he ever on you? Oh? Of course I was the one that like stopping the blows for everyone else when called times out there when we were running and we had a really hard practice and things were taught. You know, I was kind of the one that I could take the blow from Coats and like make everybody

else like we can get away now. Yeah. In fact, in fact, I don't know if you know in fact to Jay, I think you mirror me, not know the story. So this is for another book I wrote a while back. Was it New Mexico? Was it in New Mexico when you went on the board. Oh, now, Craig on the boat in Mexico in New Mexico, had New Mexico when he had you go up

to the drawing board. Oh, yes, that was me. Yeah, I messed up the I kind of ruined the And we ran this play just like every so often at the end of practice, and it was such an easy play, but the starters basically ran it all the time. And then I was coming in off the bench, so I didn't have you know, I didn't run to play. Some days he ran it, some days not. And so the coach at the end of the New Mexico the halftime cup

said run the home run play where to go? And so Steve was taking the ball out and Steve threw the ball where I was supposed to be and the ball just went out of bound and New Mexico got the ball back down out on their end and we went into halftime. And then coach was so Coach was like he was kissed and he was like Joe get up here right now? Do you know to play? Get up here and try to play. And I was like, yes, coach, I'm never to play.

He said, get up here and draw it. And so we had this big chalkboard like half the half the sides of the wall the locker room, and he gave me the marker. He says, try to play. And so I was so nervous. I got up there and I was like like the size of a dollar bill. And then he was like, where where are you supposed to be? And so I looked at Peak and he put his head down, and then I looked at Steve. He put his head down. I looked around the locker and for help, and nobody was willing

to help me. He was like, where are you supposed to be? And then so I drew an X over the top of the key, like the whole entire sea, like the side of a side of anyone. It was funny. He just grabbed it. He just grabbed the chalk from your head and just go sit down. He snapped the tin out of my head.

It's like, don't sit down exactly. That's funny how you see it though, you know it's a huge he drew a little like quarter was a little quarter of a court right there, Like, I don't know where I'm supposed to be, Joe, you know, Yeah, just the d X over the it's hard key that I've written down. That's just X over the top of it. And then later on and then later on, Coach said, you know, X is for deef. That's true. That's true. So you're coming in with the dudes right now, you're coming in with your

favorite dudes. They're pretty much like brothers, right. You came here for a reason, and these dudes turn into your brothers. Yeah. And he was the one that kind of like, you know, he looked after me his first year, you know, showing me the ropes and stuff, and so I really look up to pet you know, for a lot of things. And we call each other periodically, just checking in on one another.

And then so Craig and I were in the same class, and so we hang out all the time, going fishing, and you know, we just got closer over the years. And that's that's how that worked out. Well, let me ask you about that, because you got here, you're a freshman. He's a senior right when you got here. So yeah, he's a senior when I was freshman. How did that relationship develop? I mean, you know, I mean because Pete, you know, Pete looked like

a mean dude. Was he was he intimidating? Was he comforting? Was he? I mean? Yeah, when he came in and this was Pete's program and he was in this program, and we came in and we were gonna do whatever Pete said. And I think it was a bad deal because they were like, you know, Pete, you're gonna You're gonna babysit Joe Turner. That was gonna be his assignment. He was like, man, how did I get this assignment? And then like what happened to us?

Because I was like a social butterfly and so and he was experious and he you know, his workout everything. He was like on detailed on everything. And so I want to see Tucson and get out and meet the people. And so every time my door would open, he would be like his door open, He's like, where are you going? Get back into the room. Wow, I go back in my room. And that lasted for about a month to two, and pretty soon I got really good at not making

it noted opening the door so I got out and it was lower. Now was it? Now? What? What were the were the tables ever turned you? Or were you like that for anybody? Like saying your senior year because you had been around this was a great thing. It was. It was tough for me. Pete, Pete was serious and if I mean, once I got to know Pete, you know, like he's the best ever. I mean, do you want you want him in your corner? And

he looked after me and kept me out of a lot of missheit. And now you know, I really appreciate that today, you know, because without someone like Pete being there for me, I don't know, you know, I probably wouldn't have lasted at Arizona. It was no reason why I was able to, you know, maintain and stay serious and finish it up. There is he paying you? Is he paying you to say that right now? Or is this no? I'm telling you right now? I feel man,

I still if Pete tell give me orders right now? Still follow I went to I went to so Joe, let me ask you this question. I don't know if you can answer this question. But you didn't come last come last year. But weren't you a king for a moment. Uh, you know, that's still in the in the process. You know, my wife or that to say, her father passed away and he was a title

holder. He was like a chief in the Samoan Islands. And so right now that's still pending whether or not my wife it takes over the title or not. So wow, don't have a lot of information. It's still in the process right now. Okay, okay, I was ready to call you the king. The king. I can always call you the king, that's

what. But Steve, will you ask the question earlier about who like my senior year, Yeah, thanks to me for advice, and uh, you know Matt Kane and he was like JT like, uh, this is preseason conditioning before we actually started, like with the coaches. He's like, what do we do? And I was like, uh, we can go for a run. And he was like, oh okay. And so we went for a run and I had already knew were kind of conditioning we were gonna

have. And we ran about a mile or maybe a mile and app and Matt was like, oh, I'm in real trouble here, right okay, And of course we Wookie was another guy, you know, we looked at the Wookie. Maybe, man, I love Wookie and he was awesome, so so maybe last question for now, because you dealt with Tolbert and he was the senior guy, older dude, how was it kind of watching him? You have kind of the same personality? Was he as goofy as everyone

talks about? All right? You know? Tom loved to have fun and uh he played hard. He wanted to. That was the problem. That was the problem. That's why I Luke got on him so much. He wanted that maximum effort. Every time you have to get it out of him, you have to yell at him. But Tom's kind of the same personality. He loved to have fun, he loved life. And Tom's awesome. He lowesome guys too, And I'm glad they had been on the team with him and play with them, right right right, Okay, we'll see you

tonight and we'll see you the rest of the weekend. Thanks for joining us. I just want to save you for her go man and my my brother out here al teller Monte you know, looking forward to seeing you and Tucson and uh, you know, love you guys, all of you. Great, Thank you, Hey, thanks Auch, appreciate it, Thank you,

guys, to you Joe Turner one of the great guys. Just you know, I can't even imagine how many more stories about all about his time here because that that that was Again, that's what was great about that group, all those guys, you know, Cur you know McMillan, you know, yeah, all had just all good people, just a bunch of good guys to be around. Well, I think did we talk about you talk about it a couple of days ago, lu Luke didn't try to recruit bad dudes,

Yeah, because bad dudes created problems. Yeah. And you saw these guys on the road because you know, again we've talked about the access that we used to have. You've seen these guys on the road, and you knew that on top of being a good basketball team, they were good buddies.

They hung around and I'm not lying about he I can't remember who was to my right, but there's somebody to my right, then me, and then somebody to my left, and Joe was able to reach past both of us and pick up something up something out of somebody's late to my left, and you know what, there was no fight, There was no he get the hell out of here. Stretch Armstrong exactly. I was just like, wow, that was crazy. All right, let's take our break. We

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but uh, you know, always a fun guy. I don't remember ever having a conversation with Joe. I didn't walk away just laughing or smiling because he has ESPN, because he got ESPN. I remember that. I remember that now when you told this, I didn't know where you were going, and then I remember, yeah, okay, I thought he told it to a couple of older the bub older of boosters. You know, what

are you going home? King? Well, I know where you're going because espnse it's more of a dad joke, and it's kind of a more it's yes, you know, it's a thirty year old joke back when ESPN was still fresh earlier around. Man. Yeah, so if you want to talk about that, we still if you go to the games, where do you watch the games? You enjoy it from where you're at? Wait, what

do you look for, Dave? He is not paying us for this because like, I know what one of the guys that that we go with, you know, he watches he kind of I feel like each play he watches something different. He'll watch the line you know, he'll watch a defensive back or some defensive backs, or he'll watch the lineback or you'll watch an offensive

tack. I because he'll you know, when we're talking, you know, during the during the game, he'll say, well, you know they're doing this, they're doing that, or we can't do this, we can't we can't block this guy, you know that kind of stuff. So I I, you know, I know that you know, uh, you know, he's a guy that just you know, pays attention to little pieces of him. I'm like, did they score? Didn't they right? Right? Right?

Well, I think we watch it differently because we have to write about it and we can see some of that, but it's more about the scoring, yea, how they react to the scoring things Like you know, I remember, you know, covering the games and we had to say, you know, we would sit there write out you know, what happened on every buddy, you know, on a notepad, you know, basically do a play by plan or note pad, jot down notes, Yeah, you know,

different stuff. And in that case, yeah, if you knew going in that such and such was going to be, you know, a key to the whole game, you'd kind of pay attention to that guy and see what he's doing. But in the end, it was just like, Okay, you know, who want on this plane? Who want to who want on that plane? Right? But I'm glad I don't have to do it now because you have to do tweet tweet. No, I don't know. I see these guys. You know, I'm not that guy, right,

You see these guys are press conferences. Yeah, and we're watching, We're listening to the press conference. And that's enough for me to listen. And if here what here with Jed or Tommy or whoever is saying, and these guys are listening and they're tweeting out stuff as he's as they're saying, I'm like, I can multitask as good as anybody, but not that good Good

luck for that, Good luck with that. I feel like if I don't, if I lose, if I'm not paying attention to what they're saying, I'm not going to remember it. And when I need to remember it, which is after the press totally get you know, to be able to kind of clip, you know, something that we want to talk about on the show or whatever. That's why they're doing it, and we're not doing it anymore, guys. And you know, yeah, I mean it's just a

way of doing things anymore. But all inacted, paulsa Colla talked about that one of the reasons he's leaving. I mean, there's you're carrying your camera, running to events, doing your own shots, doing all these things. Uh. And it's not a you say, not an old man's game anymore. It's not. It's not you know, you're it's a young man's game. They're paying as a young man. It's not a lot of money there. But that's just the way the industry is. Yeah, it's what it's

become. But I I We've said a million times, I wouldn't have the neither the patience or the energy to cover to cover sports the way you have to cover him these days, right for sure, Right in addition to the travel and stuff. It's just it is what it is. But you know, we've been talking where you know, we got high school football starting tomorrow. Check out that uh stop point Miranda game. Tomorrow. I want to

see how, you know, how these teams look. Didn't seem like it didn't seem like Miranda was bothered by what happened at their uh at their school, at least from a football you know, preparation standpoint. So I'm I'm glad. I'm glad. It's not because this is a big game. You know, it's it's a game that if you're you know, if you're a high school football fan and Tucson, this is a game that you want to see. You know what, you want to see South Point play Miranda.

You're gonna want to see Miranda play CDO. I don't know if sal Point play CDO, but I pretty sure I saw the schedule that Miranda does. So you know, those are the games that you want to see back you know, back in the day, it was Tucson High and Amphi, you know all of the Moran Fi and CDO. You'd see those and you'd go see those games and they would you get, you know, a couple of thousand people at those games, which was fun to watch. Yeah, very

cool. Yeah, okay, well that was going on and you know, well we'll have breaking news right right, there's a lots lots of little stuff. You know, there's some you know, last second h trade stuff of big news out of out of Major League Baseball and one of the uh one of the great players in baseball, uh right now. But a lot of a lot of training camp stuff. So you know, we'll bring it all around and we get another day closer at college football starts in two days.

Two days, so one of them in the next school date versus Mass masks one hundred of the athletic has Arizona hasn't He makes so say that there's one hundred and one team. U Mass is one hundred and thirty three team, the worst team in the country. Yeah. Don Brown returns to the West with a bunch of Uba guys. Yeah, thanks you guys. What's his name? What is the favorite guy that he used to love? He loved yelling at uh Brown? J B. Brown. Oh Yeah, so he's

a he's a backup. He's coming off the bench to people play. But there's eight of them. I think eight of the guys are starters. Yeah, eighty got in the rosha, but eight of them are are there. They have an impact, so maybe they'll be better than what people think. Well, you know, uh, you look and they it's it's it's good for them that they're playing at a time when they can get a little bit

of attention. You know, somebody's somebody's making the point that if you're wondering, you know why USC and and uh and uh UCLA, uh you know left uh you know, left the packed, Well it's that you got. You got. USC is opening against against uh San Jose State on Saturday. The game is on I believe is on PAC twelve network. All right, you mass New Mexico State, I think is on ESPN. Oh really yeah, okay, well Ko State went to a bowl game for the first time

and forever outside of they've played here for a few years ago. But but think about that for a second. USC is not ranked number six in the country. They're on the network that is, you know that only a portion of the country can get and yet you know, argue, you know what what some people are saying is the worst team in the country is playing on ESPN. Yeah, it's just it's just crazy. But you know, the

the network games obviously Notre Dame and Navy is on NBC. You Mass, New Mexico State is on ESPN because they're calling no, no, no, no, we're you know you've got and then you've got uh, you know, PAC twelve network has the USC game and why would why wouldn't ESPN go get you know, USC on their on their network. It's crazy, but that's that's what happened. That's what happened to the PAC twelve. A lot of reasons why they are where they are, but that's just one of them.

That is that definitely just one of them. Yeah, okay, anyways, okay, so what do we have in the second hour, Well, second hour, we're gonna come back. We're gonna have Lamont love it. We're gonna get his some of his perspective on what he's been seeing at at camp. We ran ran into him at the uh the scrimmage on Saturday night, and uh, I'm sure he's got some thoughts on what he's seen and what he's expecting, you know, players to watch those kinds of things.

We'll we'll ask him all those things and see what in his My former player at the Arizona running back good player, uh, very high, highly recruited guy out of southern California. Uh, in the in the I think eighty seven or eighty eight class. I think at the eighty eight class uh uh yeah, then he came in, yeah yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, because he didn't finish off the night in the early nineties. Yes, right, we both covered him and then he then he was then

we no longer covered him. Yeah yeah, I wasn't covered him anymore. So so we'll get Lamont's Lamonts. But we're gonna come back uh in about a few minutes, and we'll have some breaking news then. Like I said, it's breaking all over the place. So just we're headed towards the start of the NFL season called cheese starts in two days, so I want to be sure to get as much of that stuff in as we cancel. Stick around for all that. We will be right back. We go back.

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