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Monday pod, Hour 1
− Steve and guests kick around just what could’ve happened compared to what did for Arizona on Saturday.
− Former Arizona BKB player Jason Terry discusses the latest in his NBA coaching career.
− It’s the first Monday night of the NFL season. The guys preview the Bills-Jets game.

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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions, Katz R two SAD and iHeart Radio Station. Yet good afternoon, everybody, welcome to I on the Ball. You have Fox Sports fourteen fifty. You can tell we've already had a glitch. Come on, Steve Rivera. Jay's not

with us today, but we should have a fun show today. I got ninety two point nine Crystal Gorman's yeah, running the board and with some opinions. I'm sure today, Oh, Monday is a good day to have a peak. Yeah, Monday's like did your Minnesota team with I guess that's a no, Oh my gosh. Okay, we'll get to that. But then we're gonna have George Modesty by the way, Yes, George Modest is in

the house, showtime cards. He's been out and about. And then we're gonna have Jason Terry the Jet hopefully calling about fifteen minutes from wherever he's at. He's a good friend of George's in mine and have him for about ten fifteen minutes, and then in the second hour, we're gonna have another show to another card guy, and it's not coming up on my George's rival George's arrival in Denver. I guess I was more curious about his thoughts about what

text going on in Colorado because he's in Denver. But you know all that who plod the whole state. I'm sure it's going bonkers. Well they're here, said we're coming. Well they're here. Now they're here. Well they're here. They they're here. We'll see what. Welcome Sanders. So he gonna get any easier, though it's not not that it matters. He's in the Heisman race though, Oh yeah, welcome to the race. Question. He's good, hear. I like what. I like the swagger. I

know Jay's not a big fan of it. I've heard Jay talk about who swagger they needed Colorado. I like the cockiness, and Dan's very likable. I don't Jay's like the grumpy guy, get off my lawn. Like, let Dan have fun, let him talk smack and they back it up. He's great. No, no, as long as he back, as long as he backs. Yeah. So far, yeah, so far, so good for him, which is fine. The USC and Oregon. You talk

about cap and you can pull it off. Go more bravo. Oh, he's gonna win this week, and then very Mile High its field that game State against High, and then he's got USC and Oregon. We're gonna see real tough however, right right, I know, I don't know. I did like the the over three and a half when they started the season. I did, given given his situation with better players. Uh, he's a

proven winner, you know. You know, I hate talking about it knowing what you think, you know, but I think it was obvious that they were gonna be better. How much better? I don't know. One and eleven last year, so so I thought more than three wins, and here they are. The line now was six and the six and a half. That they'll win more than six and a half, that's kind of stretch you gotta But we'll see. We got a date with him on the road.

It's gonna be it's gonna be tough. And then Arizona here we are. Let me ask you, because I know you to talk some crap about what you saw. Well, here's the thing. It's like Mississippi State comes in here last year, right and they and they they beat us. Text can you text much will they come in here? They beat us, They pretty

much handled us pretty easily. You just feel like, with all the and this is just me, with all the buzz around the team this year and the excitement and the hoop law, it's a game that we're supposed to win. Which one you're asking me about Arizona Mississippi State. A game they're supposed to win. What's the game? It's a game that you think that we well, first of all, first of all, I should have won the game. First of all, I should have won the game. Hands don't

step out of bus. Second of all, yeah, they I watched a little bit of I saw the highlights. I know enough that you don't step out of bounds. The highlights that doesn't touch I don't need. Here's the thing when it comes to Arizona football, I don't need. I don't need to know much because we're not a football town. We don't win games like that. You're the we don't like that. Let me you are getting a

long time, A long time. I'm almost a two s no And I tweeted, and I hate Twitter, hold on, let me finish their mister, mister guy. So I went on Twitter and I hate Twitter because everyone has an opinion and who gives a crap about your opinion, including mine? So I said, uh people, people going berserk. In the first quarter, the Laura was doing this and doing that and not doing this and doing that. Okay, he was He looked bad, but the teams didn't didn't

look good. So so they got a fourteen to seven and by the halftime, right by halftime, they were still in the game. He came and pulled pulled out a pretty good second half. All the fans in the first half, Oh, get rid of them, gonna change the blah blah blah blah blah. Enough Jesus. If you're gonna be a fan, be a fan. Don't everybody. It's it's kind of bitch fest on Twitter. You know, I think you're wrongs not he's not. First of all, he's not good. He's not good. We're not winning with him, first,

are you? Or? Four? Four turnovers? That was a lot of them party three of them were not on him. Drink take your stand. I'm a quarterback where I need Jay at least he's drinks. I've been here my whole life. I want to drink. We're totally wrong. We're talking why he's not a good quarterback. We don't win those games. You say, we're not supposed to win those games. That's the problem with dogs. It doesn't matter. We want to if we want to get over the help

we have to win those certain games. There's a buzz around this team this year. That's why we're a basketball five six games. We will never be a football tap because we just don't give snapshots. No football program. I'm gonna ask Jason the Jet when he comes on, but there's no hoopla. That's a game that you're supposed to get. Yes, no, yes. The people thought they were gonna lose that game from that's the problem from the tip of course, because no one has faith in the UFA Football rep.

I agree they're gonna lose there within, they always lose. They don't get over the hues on this. We're not playing both sides. I'm just saying we are a basketball town for a reason. Okay, because the football team here is nothing. It's never been anything. Our highlights is one highlight over thirty years. It's Chuck Season running a ninety nine yard touchdown pass against a issue. Give me a snapshot from the Yu they football program. George,

did you give him a red bull? Started? Georgia? Because George knows I'm right, it's wont to highlight every year. It's it's it's cecil. There's no history here. There's nothing you forget about the leap o, the holiday ball against the Brasco. What do you do? We are a basketball town, fellas. I should have joke tested this place before before. George. Chris is right about you. Yeah every days. No no, no, you came into the wrong time. You came into that's for sure.

He's saying that Arizona should have won this Saturday game. George from the beginning, George, they should have won the game. I don't want to get an argument, but we would love it, George, George, to get over the hump. With all the hoopla around you have a and the third year of jet Fish. This is a game where they come into our home. They beat us last year. This is a game that we should win. To get over the hump. You they never wins winn even dogs are

qualifying and they were. They're not supposed to win this game. They should get over the hump. Never gets over the hump. They that's they that's you have you been in how long? And instill alive? That's the break. I'm a Viking ban too. It's the same way. Especially put him under the ground. That's the tombstone. Oh they needed that game to get him over the hump. Yeah, Unfortunately I can't break the time because I see you, Steve, we that game we shouldn't have won. We're doing

and you should we should not win. But to get over that, I don't disagree with that. I don't just want to the program. We need to win those shops. You need to step out of bounds too. By the way, it should have won the game. It should have won the game. A game shouldn't even gone over time. It's the problem is you have doesn't win those types of games. Therefore we will never get over the hump. They don't give us snapshot the football program. You could get throw

shous. You could be arguing both sides against yourself right now. I think you are. I think that you're drinking the koli. I'm seeing that? Is that arizonaol? What is that Georgia? Is that wild? Is that in that Q Cup? That's all? That's why? Okay, cool, I want more. I want nothing more than the UFA football program to succeed. But we will forever be a basketball town. We've got no snapshots. Historically, there's nothing to go on. There's no rose ballt We're never going

to a rose ball. You're not writing a book about a football coach. Ever, there's nothing here when it comes to the football world. You take this conversation to somewhere else? Am I, George? Am I missing something? Are we are great foot historically? Great football? Nope? I don't understand where you took it there. We're talking about the game. I know we should have won the game. Okay, give me a chance of George, can hear going in on a Friday? They were nine point dogs.

They're not supposed to win the game, are right? Agree? If they do, they need the game to go over the hump of the game. Yes, was it gonna happen? No, if you watch the first if you watch the feed back, if you watch the first quarter, did you watch your first question? They looked, they looked. I got tweets. Oh this guys look horrible. They can't stop anything, blah blah blah. Three interceptions. I get it. I get it because they looked bad.

But they played well in the second half. I learned more about this game from this game than the first game. I did too. I learned that they can't win close games. That's what I learned. It's typically you are they're texting either, like George, Arizona is just killing my parlays. I'm done with them. I'm never going to trust them. Exact the first quarter, right, yeah, first first half exactly, yep. So and I'm like, yeah, that's I guess that is Arizona football. But we shouldn't

we. I don't think we had a chance to win this game, but we should have won the game. We should have won the game though, because we're in the game, in the game, in the actual game, we should have won the game. And the problem is v does not win those games, even when the nine point on rubs. I don't care about Vegas and the numbers they're supposed. They should have won the game. They should have won the game though, in no, wh who found you? Who are you? I am? You must have a Viking fan, so

like, oh, you don't know what it's like. You don't know check that ticker of years. Every now and a game we make Baker Mayfield look good. We make Daniel Jones look good. We are the Vikings. Actually, Baker did look, Baker did look at the second. It's just the next two hours with you and then George George agree with you. Well, we're not. She's sipping on the kool aid. There's no clue. I'm a realist when it comes to you, a football been, I'm a realist.

I just know that we're never gonna win. That's a real, honest opinion. We don't have any we don't have quarterbacks. We've never had a quarterback. Well, I mean, it's just Nick Foles was good again, he wasn't great here though. Okay, we have good recruits if you want to talk about one year players like a Gronkowski. But historically the program is a letter. It's just a letdown. I mean, I watch every game and they make I go argue with you. Dear Chris, We're not arguing

and get over the hump. Okay, I'll get over there. Get you. Were never gonna win this game. It should have won it, though it doesn't matter in the game. In the actual game situation, it should have won the game, and they don't because they don't win close games like because there you give him the money. Now you're friends with him. We got the car exchange. Were buddies. I someone don't. I am all bar down. I'm asking you a question. Let me ask you this question.

Did you see the highlights of the games? I should we have won the game? Highlights? You won? Highlights? Perhaps we should have won the game? Perhaps perhaps points at what point? At one point? Look at you. They doesn't win these games. They just don't. You're ready on five and seven? She until you go and say, we should have won this game. Should have a game in the game. It should the actual game. We should have I don't care what the line says in the

game. The problem with you have a football is they just don't win. Those clutch types those of course like the Vikings, they are, Well, that's true, they are. That's why Minnesota is what is. That's what Arizona is what it is. I believe in Jinks basketball. That's no brainer. Arizona is a basketball town. I mean you're bringing in subjects said, yes, yes, I believe in I believe in Jinks programs. There are certain teams that will never this is one. It's been kind of into that

for a long time. For long. A lot of programs out there. Okay, so George's in. Thank god George is in the maybe, thank you, thank you, George, thank god. I would have to battle this guy and I'd have to own it for two hours. Well, thank you so much for having me. And what a weekend it was for sports. I don't mind football. It was tremendous. NFL even, it was tremendous. You guys watched the game last night? Well it was no, No, he was not watching. It was not watching. So what do

you think about Let's just talk about this real quick. I know, Steve, I'm sure you have an agenda, but I do have an agenda. We're gonna call Jason Jameson and call us. Yeah, he's seventeen, guys said yep, And he said he's in. He's gonna call. Okay, so great that you got that for us today. Uh, we're gonna get to Jason Terry. I need to get to read the Draft Kings read. So we got about two minutes. Oh boy, you're putting me to work today. Yes, yes, you got a Draft Kings read. Huh,

it's it's I should do it after the show. How about the Cardinals did they cover the line. I won't worry about it now. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it after Jason. Okay, how about the Cardinals yesterday? No one really gave them a chance. Washington, Washington had to go. They were down ten in the fourth quarter in the Cardon yep, mhmm, yeah, yeah, Washington was Downtown ten. Well, Washington was down ten, not the Cardinals. Cardinal's rough ten would Josh Dobbs at the

Helm? I mean, I was like, outside of outside of Ammy, outside of Dallas, the Green Bay, who else? Kind of besides that, it was kind of like, Okay, well the Rams played outstanding, boy, they sure did. Yeah, the Raiders. The Raiders won that game. I have sat. Also, I have a question for you guys. I don't know if I want to save this, keep this in my back pocket for another segment, but I am curious, can anybody, in your opinion play themselves out of the Hall of Fame? Who you're talking about?

I think Russell Wilson, Russell slowly playing himself out of the Hall of Fame? Can a player literally play I think Russell Wilson is slowly becoming ineligible, And you're the Pickett got one Super Bowl. What's that? I don't even think it's gonna work over there. It's done. They're not gonna mask. It's the same team. He's playing himself out of canny player. Can you play? Can a player do that? Pla himself out the hall.

I really believe Russell Wilson has playing himself, but probably can't happen. His last five years are brutal. His cards must have been dwindling. We're wan to talk about that. We're talking about with your guy. What's his name? Huh, Mike Fruitman. Mike Pruitman's big in our industry, thirty years plots. He actually just hold his business out of Denver. Yeah, Denver. But we'll talk to his get We'll get a gauge of Denver and Colorado

because you know the Buffalo's story. I want a Jordan love Price too on that rookie car because I have a feeling it's a rising sun. Let's go. Let's go to commercial break because he'd be calling us about three four minutes. Okay, oh god, let me let me, let me work my

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Breaking down all the xs and os. It's Steve Rivera and Jaden Sommits. This is I Am the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to win laball here on Fox. What's fourteen Kikie, I'm Steve Rivera, jays out got a guy George Modison from show type cards. And now we got our guy, Jason Terry the Jet. Jason, how are you? I'm doing well? How about yourself? Well, thanks for joining us. Good to have you on the show. You're a busy NBA guy.

Now how's that going for you? Oh? I'm enjoying it, man, enjoying every moment of the journey in this next chapter in my career coaching career. We have a great staff, great organization, and a pretty tough roster. So we're looking forward to the season and hopefully it ends, you know, the way we all wanted to in a championship. That's awesome. That

is awesome. So tell me how it is. So you we've talked before and you said you liked the college coaching, you know, now you're coach Jet, but you're like, I kind of like the schedule more on the college and stuff. Now we're coaching pros. What how do you like that? Oh? I love it. I love it. I mean, there's really no difference nowadays because the guys are coming in at such a younger age and it's almost like you are coach and college kids. Especially with our rosters.

Way it's intact. Now there's a couple of bets, but you've got most part these guys are one and done or maybe two years at the most. There's really not a lot of difference. And I say it at any level. I mean, obviously the skill is what it is, but it's all about people and coaching people and getting you into the best versions of them sales every day. Your timeline. Okay, you you played a long time. You played a heck of a long time. We made a stop here

for a time. Are you kind of projected to do something beyond this down the road? What are you hoping to do down the road. Well, I just want to continue to grow as a coach where I'm at and as I continue to elevate. Obviously, as my big ultimate goal and dream is the one day lead a franchise as a head coach at whatever level. But right now, it's just continue to develop, continue to grow as a coach,

and keep honing my skills and giving back to the game. Yeah, that's the fact that you the fact that you were in the league for a long time. And this is me, this is me talking. What do I know right? Uh that you have you have cred, You have NBA cred. Do the do the guys, kids now gonna play play hard for you, will work hard for you because you have that credit. Well,

I think for me, it's because I crossed generations. And when I say that, it is because I played nineteen years, so I was in two different decades to two different errors, so to speak, almost three And so those guys understand I'm not too far removed. I'm the old head, but I'm not just a fresh new guy either. So the one thing about it

is they know I've completed at the highest level. They know I have their best interests, and I think that's what gets their respect more than what I did as a player, but more as who I am as a person and what I do for them every day, empowering them, encouraging them again to be the best version of themselves. Hey, Jed, it's Chris here. You know you jb entering the coaching ranks. You know, Ludosan, what was the biggest principle or the influence that coach left on you that you're used

today is as a coach self. So it was all about selflessness. And obviously to become a coach you have to have some sort of selflesslessness, and then you also have to have compassion. And I think those are two character risks that Luke displayed every single day. That along with you know, accountability,

holding yourself accountable, holding your teammates accountable to a certain standard. Best guys like myself, jb Luke, I mean, Josh Pastor, you can go down the lot of the Mole Simon x NBA guys, even Mike Bibby coach at the high school level, guys that have decided to, you know, take coaching on in their second careers. It's just all about the influence that Luke had on us. Yeah, let me ask you, Jaked,

because the times you're changed. Back then, you were the sixth man, you and off the right, maybe the record, but in my opinion, you could have been a starter here for a couple of years before you were coming off the bench. Given today's basketball, had you been able to do that, you probably never with a left R. You were for your guy. Even though you were for your guy, you know what I'm saying, Because Bibby was a two year guy. Everybody else out there, but you

could have probably did it. And if today's ball was being played back then, oh yeah. Obviously the reason that these guys back then when I played, and now, while we probably wouldn't have left, really, I mean think about financially. You know, a lot of us came from singing pairing background. You know the functional homes were financially weren't as favors. Now that doesn't really have an impact. So you don't necessarily have to leave earlier.

Because of new Nila, guys are to be compensated and there really is no rust and so now you can stay and develop. My thing was, I never really thought about playing the NBA. I was more, you know, I wanted to play professionally obviously, but I wanted to get my degree and enjoy every moment on campus and over some of the greatest four years. And right, no, because you have you grew with a lot of brothers from that team, and you guys would have killed at ninety eight. How you

nil? Right? Oh my goodness. You know when you went and asking Timid, obviously everybody benefits and even though we didn't have any ill, they treated as like we did. So I still get that on Wildcat discount every time they were about stopped everything every single game. Well, yes, yet I want to ask one quick question. You played your your best yours in Dallas. You obviously won the championship there in twenty eleven. What is Mark

Cuban like and what's your relationship? I love, absolutely love man. I get it most an any times somebody brings up Mark, because he's more than the owner. You know, he's a friend. Uh, he's a he's a big brother. He's a guy that if I call right now with us on this line, he would pick up and answer his answer the phone for

me. And that relationship continues even you know, after I've been done playing, and you know the way he takes care of his players while they're playing for him, and even when they go on to other teams and on into retirement, he still has a genuine love for you because you put that Maverick uniform on and uh, you know you did something for him and he continues to share that same love. I mean, you gotta love his passion. You gotta love the way he you know, roots for his team and best

type of like got a similar owner in Ryan Smith. I mean, the same passion for the game, the love of it. Obviously. You know you can say they don't need the money, it's just another investment for them, but these guys have a sweat equity in their teams, not just financial Jed, I'm just curious. You always hear the goat conversation, of course, and when you when you think of the goat, and I'm sure you're asked this question all the time, is it is it? Should we be

comparing eras or do we just go goat of all time? When you talk with in that conversation, Well, I mean, there's no doubt who my goat is. I mean, I don't know a pair of shoes in my closet that's not a paire. I knew he was going there. I'm just curious people people like to take out certain errors from the game, like the sixties and seventy. I'm just curious what you take is on that Mount Rushmore

conversation. Well, you can still do the the goats of errors, and then the goat of all goat is still for me going to be Michael Jordan. But if you say coat of errors, then obviously there's a there's a good conversation, but uh is not a barbershop talk. All these tis and that that step into this arena have done something that a small percentage of society has done. So I don't want to, you know, devalue anybody's career as you talk about top three. In my eyes, I mean I got

MJ. Kobe and then Lebron is right there. I mean, his career is not even over yet, and he's already been talked about the goat. He's a goat for that in his film. You know, he's still going. Has there any been Has there ever been a player that play at this such a high level for this period of time. There has not been, So he's going to have a say so at the end of the day when he finally hangs it up. And I don't see it happening in time soon.

I have to scout against him last year and you think he's slowing down and he's still, you know, moving just as good. And he'll he'll tell you, he'll tell you he's the goat, King King. He is the King. There's no doubt about it. Ju. I'm not sure you coach marketing, but you have him on the team of all the of all the Sean players, I would take him number one in my draft. I love because he can go inside outside and he's just coming into his own in

my opinion, right now listen watching market in at the University Arizona. Sean Miller did a phenomenal job with him, allowing him to not only post up, but the play outside as well. He reminds me so much of Darkness and the way he played in his young years. You know, adol able to move one two, drible pull ups. He doesn't quite have the post game yet, but he's starting to develop that. He's gotten stronger and his

confidence has grown. He definitely deserved All Star last year, and he could argue, say, you know, he could have been an All NBA performer. So I mean it's a joy to coach him. He's he's basketball at his purest form. He's a true, true student of the game, and he's a gym rat and that's the way why we love that. Yeah, uniform deserve his country this summer. So that did not know that? Tell

me real quick, do you guys have something planned? And Noah, So we had an autograph signing, meet and greet over at the shop this Saturday. Some things can't happen like like it happens. I was up in Vegas the Ed Sharon concert was they canceled that show half an hour. You know things, but same with this kind of you know schedule, my schedule. Yeah, it didn't happen, but we're gonna try to make it happen at the end of October, is that right, Jet, Yeah, hopefully we

can get in there. We have a road trip schedule for the Phoenix game. And what I'll do with the day before the game, I'll come down. Hopefully it won't be my scout, so we'll will come on, uh, you know, meet some fans, greet them, and then I'll give two tickets to the Phoenix suns Utah Dazz game. I know everybody wants to see Katie Book and yeah, I mean sorry not not seeing three but Bradley Bill. You know, they got a new Big three out there and our

Wildcat brothers DeAndre Aden. So it's gonna be a great matchup. Two lucky fans, two lucky fans. You show up, get autographed from the Jet, and we'll send you up to Phoenix so you can enjoy a great Wow. Yeah, you have a nice mister Judge money. A couple of quick questions your girls. I know you started coaching your girls a while back. What are they up to? Are they still playing? Are they gonna play college. What's up? I really don't want to say on air, but

I got two daughters right now attending Arizona State University. I don't know how it happened, but it did. I'm just happy it in the school. But the forks are halfway up in my house. Uh but but they are great young women. I have one college graduate who has a master's degree working on her master's and then my freshman just went into school sophomore in high school, and then an eight year old. So hopefully the eight year olds the

hooper. Everybody else is retired now, and uh, you know she she shoots it like her daddy, so hopefully she'll be the one nice nice JT. It was just yesterday I was falling around the skinny kid from Seattle. You and your dead yeah manx with the socks, Yeah right right. I think there was one more, but I can't remember what the heck it was. Oh, you must be kind, Come on, JT. You must be in heaven because you had a fantastic career in the NBA. You're doing

what you love. Who thought? Who would have thought this? Right? And you're kind of living the life. Yeah, yeah you are. You're living the life and you're able to. You know, a lot of people go to work because they have to. You know, I'm able to go to work and enjoy it and show up every day with a smile, and I'm still around the game. Like a lot of people. You know, you have whatever employment you have, but when you're done, you're just done.

I'm able to still be around the game, give him back, doing what I love to do, and I'm enjoying every minute of it. Last thing, I knew what it was, JT line. I used to wear the crap out of your attire. Do you have any old boxes for me? Yeah, with the jet with the jet logo, the white polo. Come on, I gotta get when you come. Those are vintage, though, you gotta, you gotta those are vintage. Now yeah, I got okay, real quick. One question, now that you're a coached yet,

and this is a tremendous draft class. You just did Summer League. You got to see all the young talent you have, Wemby, the Twins, the Thompson Twins. It's tremendous. Who do you like? Who's your pick of rookie of the Year this year? We'll have to go with our own. I mean, and we got three good rookies that we drafted in the first round, and guys are tremendous with some plant of time. He had a great summer league. I think he'd be just getting a candidate as any

of them. But you know, it's hard to route for anybody else, but I'm definitely gonna route for our own, so that that would be my peak. There you go. Alright, Jason the college basketball Player of the Year in nineteen ninety nine. Do we can't forget that? J T? Thanks a bunch man anytime? Talk soon? Yeah, thank you. Let's get soon, Jet. Yeah, well you got it. Maybe you coming back in October. Yeah, that's cool. What happens is all this veiggat

canceler? I mean, oh the show. I don't know. Sharon got canceled halfway or literally half an hour before the clature we were walking. Is that your purpose in going there? Was purpose? I would never have you an ed Sharon guy. Yeah, talking my girl. Okay, that makes it. Okay, there we go if you're going sold exactly. But you know it's first we get a NFL football to be definitely wagers and analyze games. But yeah, it was It was horrible. It was definitely a buzz

kill. We're walking over the stadium. Half hour was No, it was not that at the Allegiance stage. Yeah. Yeah, you played the big stadium, the Big Stadium, sold it out, and wow, they pushed it back. They said, hey, it's gonna be a half hour delay. It's still one hundred and five degrees versus people. I talked to people that were in from Germany, the UK. He's from UK that flew out

there for this event, and they just canceled. They said the stage they had an issue with with the weight of the stage, and they didn't want to, like, you know, jeopardize any fans getting heard or something in case it collapsed. But you would think they would. Kind of those legisims you can figure out, you know, hey we got a ten thousand pounds stage we set up. We need What did they do with your tickets? They pushed back to the show till October something. Now I'm on its own.

Now it goes on. Stuff up. You make a profit. Yeah, there you go exactly. And then you gotta take the girl off the dinner. Yeah yep, Oh she got her dinner, got her dinner. You got a steak. You got a steak coming from me. There you go. You know, Okay, you gotta take a break. It was a lot of fun. Thanks for getting JT. Good dude. He's right though, if you don't get there, if you don't get a free beer like the Miles and the Jts and those guys in this town. Uh huh

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a pitch account, the other James James Cook first Calvin. I think I think Briefe will be on a pitch account. Yeah, I'm gonna go over with Dalvin. I think he's that is a good over. I mean normally typically you would say, I think he's still got early, early, early early juice in those legs. Absolutely, he'll start to probably fade a little bit tween at the end of the year. But I'm going over forty eight. I like it too. Yep. He's a beast. Yeah, I'm

not just agreeing with him. Should he looks at me like George is my buddy. He's agree with me on everything. He's smart on No. No, he save me in on a bad time at the beginning. But no, I kind of agree agree on Chris Christal's this stuff, except that it's kind of a little too over the top. Yeah, we we un smarts seventy five percent of the things. And then this Arizona stuff. I think they're gonna be They play you tip this weekend, right they should the seventh

line of seventeen. Yeah, that's not enough. Look, they're going to kill let me go back. I'm coming hot only because I'm very passionate about the e I've been here my whole life. Okay, I grew up as I'm an Arizona kid. It's like being a Viking. It's like you go into the season, you're full of hope. There's a lot of hype. You know, this is a year six wins, seven wins, maybe go to a vow year. It's just it's it's from the disappointment that just kills

me. With you of a football that's my one, no one, no one, is more of a I am bared down all the way. But when we just historically, I want to see us get over the hump, and when I see us in an endgame situation where I think that we can win the endgame situation, not by the line, it's just it frustrates me because we don't win those games. And that's where that's where it comes from

from me, is the frustration you're emotionally at times. I'm very much like, yeah, I come from a good place, but it's like when you're in the game, you're and you're in a situation where you should win the game, It's like, why don't we win those It's like the vikings, you just don't win the game. And my point is you would have picked this game a month ago, two weeks ago, a week ago, a day before. You're saying that's not a game they're gonna win. I completely

agree. But when you're in the game and you're in a situation to win the game, could have won the game. That's a game where they get over the hump and they and they take care of public perception, they win the game. And now we're talking about us as opposed to call it first year, assuming facts not into evidence. Guys, okay, they would have gone to overtime. Let's assume they going to it. There's not a guarantee

that they're gonna win that game in overtime, double overtime. You're not wrong, You're not wrong, but it's just it's a game that you want to see them win over to. You don't know, get your passion. I get passions from a good how frustrating. I am very frustrated by the way. You aren't. You aren't alone, you aren't I'm not. I don't think I'm on an island. I thank you. I don't think I am. You're not from here Georgia. No, I grew up in La Okay,

but I've lived here twenty five years, so you get it. I'm basically yeah, it's just a frustration party. It's like someone told me a number the other day. How many top twenty five AP finishes do you think the Arizona football team has in fifty years? Fifty fifty years? Answer to this? Do you know the answer? Well, I'm sure, what what what was it? What top top over fifty years? We gotta we gotta turn that thing that we gotta hanging up, I should we've been last fifty

years? How many top twenty five finishes APY finishes is top five, top twenty five top twenty five AP finishes? Is Arizona having fifty years fifty years? I'd say twelve. I'm gonna say less than five, maybe five, seven, seven, and my guess seven in the top twenty five fifty years. Yeah, all right, might be closer fifteen to twenty five. But it's just like even as a kid, like we're on the cover of Sports Illustrated, it's Desert Swarm. This is the year, Like we're gonna go

to the Rose Bowl, we might win the national championship. We go into Penn State, LaVar Arrington, LaVar Arrington just rolls as we lose like forty two ten. The season is over before it's like, it's that's the typical stuff I'm talking about with you of a football. That's why you get the Chuck Seaestill highlights and you get you get the Ortege Jenkins flips because that's all

we got. It's like you're on the cover Sports Illustration, You're supposed to go to the Roseball, your Desertswarm, and you get rolled in Penn State and it's over. We're the only ones. Yeah, the other one and you end up in the Holiday Ball that year. It's like nobody. It's like, that's the that's the part I'm talking about. That's what's frustrating to me. Are you saying I've set the bar high? I mean, I'm

not a fan. I'm not a fan, you know, I'm just a journalist kind of You're looking in the middle, like you you're depressing even me. That's why that's where my pain comes from. I mean, we're on the car. I mean, you got Desert Swarp, you go in too, Penn State and Happy Valley Lavaron. It's just wait, we were like probably ten point favorite that day. When we get rolled. It's like, that's the partic of being a you of a football fan, so you know,

you can always change your allegiance. And when I won't do that, I'm a bear down. That's what I love about fans. That's what God saying. That's what I'm on Saturday. People are tweeting all this team stucks getting Laura out of there, blah blah blah, and and he did not play well in the first time. I get that, but then all of a sudden Oh he look at look, look he's doing well. But they jump off the wagon and then jump right back. Just stop tweeting right away

it happened, tweets tacks. That's always like, you know what, though it's over, but it's part of being a fan. I don't get No, it's just the emotional roller coaster. Right. Baker Mayfield was a dud for for for fourteen minutes. Just say the first and then he rolls the Vikings and everyone's like, oh, he's he's got the moxie. This is the Baker Mayfuld we've been waiting for. It's like that's just part of because

someone tweeted me exactly, that's just it's the way the fans are. And I'm thinking they need to relax and take a chill bill because the game was for ten minutes in Arizona football things. You don't know what the mean. You just said you haven't been here to grow up with it. It's like it's heartache. You don't have to do that. You can get off the way we're built in because we're passionate, because we we you know what, we haven't been there yet, that's what we don't We don't act like we've

been there, because we've never been there. It's not all nothing. I mean, there's something you come on at the beginning of the year. How many wins did you think they're gonna have? I had, I had, I had I found I'd have to look through the schedule at the beginning here you would have had me. I gave Colorado win. I gain must have win. Now, I don't know, Sanders, I had six wins. I think it was five and a half. Yeah, it was three and a half last year. Well, now it's gonna be under Yeah, that's

hard. I think I found six wins the issue done the year, right, Yeah, and I had us over Colorado. So now I don't know. I'm taking that one back right now too. I gotta be honest. I mean, I'm drinking that cool who's not drinking the buffalo. Of course they're gonna be three and o after this week, and then it gets real. And then then it gets real. There's some good teams in the back

usc Oregon. They gotta they gotta go. I'd say, call guys if you guys want to call, but don't call because this is crazy and here, no, it's good. We got we gotta call let's do because we got a couplements. Hey, welcome to behind the ball. You got a couple of minutes. Who's this? Hey, Steve, this is done? How you doing? Can you understand a word? Anybody saying? Here?

God, this is crazy? No, I can't because you let George keep saying the same thing that takes about ten seconds to say, and he's been saying it since three o'clock. What is but to defend George, Steve, you can't. You can't tell a fan of any school, especially if you grew up here, you know, or somebody that grew up wherever. You can't tell him. Hey, you can change your allegiance right now that you tell me that he was telling that transgender fan. You can't do that.

My point is you don't have to have a heart attack from this thing. You're allowed to have heart attack. Absolutely, I'm saving your life right now. Well, the problem is that the thing is and George, George admitted he only saw the highlights. We still got the touchdown when t Mac took uh steps on the sideline, we still got the touchdown on that point. It was unfortunate because there was a big play. But do let me ask you this. So you're talking Chris, not George. Chris. Chris is

the looney one. I'm the Looney tune down. But I think you're kind of defending me away, John. Do you want you understand though, that the heartache? It sounds like it's like to me, that's just it's it's the constant let down that I grew up here. I've told the guys. I've told the guys in the past what I would like for Jetfish and whatever he leaves a program behind. I'd like us to be calm, a consistent seven eight game winning team and every three four years have that eleven twelve win

season week. So they were, Hey, if we're going to balls all the time and we're constantly in the mix and we're in games like like Mississippi State, I mean this week, we have no business us being in that game. And you're right, Don we gotta go exactly your point. It's better said than Chris is here. Thank you. I'm a good guy. Alright, just take a break, come back

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