Monday, May 22, Hour 1

This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions katz R two side and I Heeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagens As got our guy Jackson in today. I have two things to say to you guys. Aren't you don't you wish you Michael Block,

Jaken Zalis oh man? How about that? And aren't you Jason? How about them Nuggets? Yeah, congrats you guys. They're not over. It's not over. I wanted to go six. It's pretty much over. I wanted to go to games. Does that bet does have to hit exactly six for you to win? No? No, I've already got them to win the whole West. No, no, no, I know that. But but yeah, bet that you made on the number of games, yeah, and has to hit on the number yeah. Yeah, But I have him,

I have him winning the West. Yeah, I know that. I know that and going to it and winning the championship. Right. So I went with three game, six game six, game six, to win it game six, and then to win the West, and then to win the West and then twin it all. Okay, so you have three bets on him, yeah, just most recently. Yeah. So how about that Block guy, that crazy story, right, you know, the club Pro. He qualifies and now he's like he's on his way. He won two hundred

and thirty thousand dollars. Well I thought two eighty eight. Maybe he's two eighty eight. Well two hundred and change. Okay, So he's kind of more than Anything's kind of changed his life because now he gets you're playing the PGA again next year, right, did you get to play in any others or just that one? Just that one now, um, because you need to win. Like he's playing this week, but he's playing in the in the Charles Schwab Tournament this week, but he's playing on a sponsors exemption.

So he's got it because of all the hoopla he got invited to play this week. He can play some of those, but in order to get his PGA Tour card, either has to qualify through the Corn Ferry Tour, which I don't think he's playing, or he's got to you know, like he's got to win a tournament. Uh you know, so you win a tournament, you automatically get your card for I don't know how many years. Yeah,

okay, I think like five years or something like that. But so he's not officially a PGA Tour card carrying guy, but he's got a chance to go play again this weekend and and probably from future game makes the money that kind of thing, so, um, yeah, you know it's it's a huge opportunity. Guys from Mission via Hoo. I looked up the golf course that he's the pro app and it's it's, you know, just kind

of a cold course. They're in Mission Via Hoo, and uh, you know, like the pros that we have at our golf courses here and now he's you know, made of killing in the PGA. Look I've said before, you have golf guys on or got from golf women. Um, if you're you run hot for four days, that's all you need. You just running out for four days, just like kind of playing poker or playing anything.

If you run hot like my nug it's yeah or whomever. Yeah, but you know he played well, he had that hole in one that it was on Belido that's gone viral. He hit it into the hole on the fly, which that never happens. You know, it's that's a really hard thing to do. But no, when you when you're when you're on a charmed life for a week or a day, that I enjoy it. You got to play with Rory McIlroy, you know, so probably the you know, one of the maybe top five biggest stars on the tour right now,

played the final round with them. I saw that he his caddy got got Rory to sign his his caddy bib for him. He's got he wasn't that's particular right in seventy seventy seventy What do you shoot the last day? Um, I don't remember, but he he finished the fifteenth place. Yeah, I know, which is got to make a putt on the last finished and he hit that barely going in. And now he knows he's playing in the PGA again next year. Yeah, I mean, how cool is that?

Guy's not gonna sleep for a year, you know, so that you know, I think I saw some of the stuff, you know he was I think on Saturday, Um, they were interviewing him while he was walking to the green on one of the holes. And you know, he sounded really cool and just seems like a very Downdoorth kind of guy. You know, you never know, but uh, you know he's uh generated a lot of conversation and a lot of people are pulling for hims. It's very cool,

Okay, cool cool. And about them Nuggets, they're just playing well, we'll get to the Boston Celtics or the or the heat in a second. Um. The Lakers, I know, probably over evaluated the first couple of series. Um, they are who they are. They're probably fortunate to get to this point, don't you think. Um, not really, I think they took advantage of other teams not really being healthy. Well yeah, this is this is the first like real healthy, you know together teams. They're

a good team. Yeah, they're playing right that this postseason. The Gridgies are missing to their top guys. UM, Warriors chemistry issues. Um. And now the Nuggets, who are who've been resting for the back half of the regular season and they've been clicking all postseason. So um, you know, the Lakers, they've just been looking a lad in games and not making the rider judgements. I feel like to capitalize when they've had the moments to

capitalize to close out some of these games. I also think that the analysts or whomever are overreacting to Lebron playing Lebron's tiredness right right, right, Look, they're they're just getting out played. They're getting and they're getting be You know, they can make you look old when they beat you. Without question, I think they're overbold. He's always still a good player, right, he's taking shots. He probably shouldn't take those three points sweets what two for

whatever. Yeah, it's a really bad percentage. But I do think his ankle is like lower bodies, that something's wrong. I feel like because before you have the ankle injury in the regular season earlier this year, he looked like a different player in my opinion, But now I think he has an older player, and he gets playing a lot of minutes and he's asked to do so much because certain guys in the team aren't able to step up when they need to step up, Like no Daniel Russell, He's supposed to be

ours writing plant guard, but he's been playing really awful this yeares. So Lebron has to um take care of the point composition because you know, we don't have one exclude you know, awesome reasons, of course, but I think he's asked to do so much, which makes it looks, you know, make them look bad. Right, Okay, so I you know again, it's it's once when a team makes you look bad, they're gonna find

sure what what they think. Specifically in the Lebron's cases, they well, he's old and he's getting tired of He hasn't been old for a lot of games this year. Right, either you're good or you're not good. He's still good, he's still got it. Yeah, he's just slower. He's just slower. Um, So I think too many people over evaluate things. And then of course Boston, Wow, who probably has the most talent.

We've discussed that. Yeah, the most talented on paper, right, but you know which doesn't right, And then he continued to to gangbuster this whole thing. Yeah, hey, they could be they could be the Nuggets. They can win this Yeah. No, they've done enough now and played well enough and the way they're dominating, uh, Boston, but certainly they can win this thing. Match up, it should Yeah, it could go six or seven either way. The one thing I heard this morning that was very

interesting to me. Damon was with Boston. We knew that right for a couple of years. He took the job at Georgia Tech midway through the year, maybe February issue, I think I can't remember when. H No, after the season Mark Mark and he took over that. So he left Boston And it was mentioned this today that he was the he was the Jim Roseborough to the lud Olson, that the guy for the players, He got the messages to the players, score the cut coach who doesn't really have a whole

lot of personality. It's kind of just kind of straightforward and blah blah blah that they've kind of detached from the head coach, and Damon was the guy to connect them too. And we've talked about the importance of that. You never know, we talked about the importance of that, and that's been missing.

I mean, you never know when when one guy leaves and what he takes with him, you know, the one that sticks, that sticks in my mind, that's more you know, more local was you know, you know, after the great football season arizon I had in ninety they go into ninety nine and and before the season, Um, you know, I remember talking to Tom Dundalston, who's the sports information actor. I can tell this

story now because he's not that guy anymore. But we had, you know, we had a preseason party like we always did, and I said, Tom, how are they going to do? And he says, this team needs a leader. He said, so you talked about it before. Calvin

Efon was that leader, and it doesn't have another Calvin Efon. That team ended a point six and six, right, and there was a disaster from going to start right right, you know, Yeah, and they didn't have a guy that you're going into the Penn State game that year that was going to you know, have high expectations for his teammates. They got blasted by Penn State and the season basically ended right there. If you want to talk

about that, the school more more timely the basketball team this year? Right? Who was the leader? Right? Potto can't identify who it was? No on the court. You might have been two bells on the court. But but okay, but what else think of those teams after t J McConnell that, Yeah, no, John, you know, you gotta have a guy, whether it's a coach or a player that guys looked too, and

who can draw something out of guys? Right? And you know, as he said, for Loot, it was ros Or you know before that it was you know, was Ricky bird Song and Kevin o right, uh, you know, and and then some and sometimes it's players like I said, you mentioned, you know, guy like Calvin Efon or yeah, you know you know other guys like that throughout the years on different team. In ninety

seven it was Miles Uh. You know, he wasn't the best guy on the court, but he was he put those guys gave him a will to win. Again, what was the big difference between the eighty seven and eighty eighteen Steve Kerr Not just because he could shoot exactly, but because he was on the court right, and there were certain things that you know, we're only acceptable. Well we had uh and I think you've known this from the guys from the book. Um who got tell me? Tell me? Uh?

God getting old our la guy the musician. We said, he he won. He played hard for Steve, Steve in addition to Loot, but he didn't want to disappoint Steve. Right, And you have those guys when you play. I'm sure you were on a team or two where you know you don't want to screw up. Yeah, but you also don't want to

disappoint the guy that's leading the way, of course. Yeah, you always want to you know, not do anything that you shouldn't been doing, going to make sure that you're contributing to the team, right and not stopping out a line really and raising enough with other guys right, right, And we've seen that good end that Well, that's the all important chemistry, and sometimes chemistry can be without your around one person, dude, one person can bring

chemistry to a team two thousand Trier right, brow had none. The leaders on that team were not good guy for that all for one right, yeah, and that and that was as talented a team as as a Sean Miller add with Lowry markin and and stuff and they and they f right, No, the importance of all that is very very crucial. We have a good show today. So a team, we're gonna talk to a coach. You had a team of talent and probably a leader coach. How do you say

her last name? Tricia? I think it was Tan, just Tan. Okay, she's with South Point. We're gonna Oscar again though, because but I think if I recall the time we had her on last year after she want to stay championship. I think it's Tricia Tam I'll text her just to get in case. And then Matt, A lot of things have happened over the weekend of recruiting stuff and again going back to Arizona fans losing their minds

about a month ago, maybe a month and a half ago. And now look look at the team that Tommy Tommy Layde's gonna put on the floor. Oh and that's been love to talk. What about where are the guys that ripped into Tommy about all the recruiting there back in their mom's basements. They got their big bag of Cheetos out. They're sitting there in their boxer shorts and they're not saying anything. They're another other sites that we don't want to

talk. They'll come out when they start to lose or they lose again. And see I told you they didn't go back again, right if they start because this this this looks like, you know, we were having a conversation, but not only looks like, you know, very another very good team kind of built differently, right, Yeah, guys that you think might be you know, with it with the addition of of the San Diego State kind

of little maybe a little more physical at least one position. Yeah, maybe they don't have a guy that a big guy that's gonna run the floor like like a zulus. But you know, they might have a couple of shooters outside ump of a bunch of tall guys. But we won't know until we know. But I do like their chances to finish at least in the top two or three again in the conference. Right. And there were some schedule needs today that we'll leave for U for Jason during UH breaking during breaking news.

But that's a hell of a schedule that's been put finally, FONT nice home games for your ticket holding me up? Yeah, okay, cool, um anything else let you have on your top year. Um, you know, well let's let's let's throw this one out because we're we're we're keeping it. We're keeping tabs. On Arizona women's golf, they're trying to finish in the top eight in their in their UH in the NC Double A tournament, they've dropped. They started out in eighth place today, but they are now

in tenth place, or two strokes out of eighth place. I still got a bunch of golf. Let the other other players are between the twelve and fourteenth holes. But they're six over today, so they've got to turn on the jets a little bit to get up there into the top eight places, which in would put them into the uh the final eight with um or the next the match play that they they have coming next, So they got to get up there. Um it's Brackett once once they get into the next round.

So they got they gotta step it up there two strokes out behind Pepperdine and Oklahoma State to get there. I don't know if this is part of breaking, but I'll just mention the baseball, do you know what seed they are? They're the eighth seed. So they they got in. They got they got into the eighth seed. They play a su tomorrow. The situation that they're in is that they it's a it's a it's a three team round robin over the next three days. So they play two games because they're the

lowest seed in there, you know, as the eight. See, they have to win their two games to advance to the bracket, because if they don't, if they're in a tie with anybody, they lose the tiebreaker because it's based on your seat. So um, they can't. Uh, they've got to win two. No, they just play two games. Okay, They PLAYSU and then Oregon State ten o'clock in the morning. Both days they're playing up up in Phoenix, and so I'm sure those games are on PAC

twelfth network and so very important that they win both their games. And they've got ASU first thing tomorrow morning. Okay, let's take the break. All right, let's go take our break. We'll have Matt Murdeno. We'll talk about some basketball recruiting and football. There's stuff going on football wise. I guess you could say it's a pretty good week in for Arizona on both sides.

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Now on the phone, we have Matt Morton or goasycats dot com. Fat and how are you doing great? To yours sad my last name better than I do. Yeahybody still says lao right there in Lack, Canada, La chola the corner. Hey, you've been busy. I know you've been busy. What's up with Arizona had a pretty good weekend. Yeah, I mean it's uh kind of happened all at the same time. Everything that kind of felt like he was building up, you know, kind of happened in minutes

a part of each other. But Arizona, that was probably that transfer game, as everybody has to be in twenty twenty three, and U picked up two big transfers, one in football, one in basketball. Obviously the basketball line we're talking about Arizona basketball is probably gonna get more attention right now. But yeah, just a really good, solid day for Arizona and too quality pieces to both teams that will I think, you know, factor and so

success for both football and basketball next season. You know, we we've talked a lot mad about how Arizona fans just panic when you know, you lose one guy, and we all saw how they lost their minds. You know, we talked about after the Princeton loss then they didn't get the guy from from Crayton. But you know, Tommy Lloyd doesn't panic. I mean, he pretty much had this lined up long ago, didn't he Or did he?

Yeah? I mean that's the thing. When you were talking to people last month and they were, you know, losing their minds over Arizona and Tommy Lloyd can't recruit, I was like, it's it's April. If you remember back to last year, there are two trunks. They added them after the NBA deadline in June. I mean you have to if you get to July or August and you're still having these issues and these holes in the roster, maybe you can talk about panic time he can't recruit. But um,

there's always a plan. I think I think fans forget that that college coaches always have a plan. They wouldn't be who they are unless they do have a plan. And the one thing that's been consistent throughout the Tommy load air is that he just does not panic about recruiting. He has a different approach than Sean Miller in terms of how he looks at high school prospects, and he really targets it's a very select group. There's not a lot of offers

going out. Um, they really focus in on a few guys and if they don't get those guys, they move on to whatever the next plan is that they're usually pretty happy about. And so, um, you know, when you're talking about Arizona with Tommy loved with Jack Murphy, international recruit is always going to be, you know, very relevant to them, and they're always going to have guys that they feel like they can pull on and pull across, you know, over from overseas and get them to Arizona. And

um, seems to be the case again. And then there's not the transfer portal, which um, you know they've been successful with and is always going to have kind of endless amounts of opportunities to bring in pretty talented players. And so shaped up pretty well. I think they have a really you know, all roster at this point. Maybe could be some more movement, no moving forward, but for right now, it's you know, a pretty productive offseason. And I think just as much you know, talent on the rosters,

it was rosters. Man, Like, you know, we see Tommy here, we get it, you're getting press conference and stuff. We kind of feel like we've gotten to know him. But you talk to recruits and players that he's in contact with, what what's your sense of sort of what's his persona, what's his image out there among recruits and coaches, someone that

they can really get along with. I'm someone else they really want to play for in a lot of cases, and I'm you know, I was talking to to Carter Bryant, who you know there is their big twenty twenty four commit and um, you know the people around him and everyone's very comfortable. I think there's just a comfort level of Tommy Lloyd and they feel like he's someone that's on their side and somebody that wants him to do well and wants him to develop, and um, somebody they can just feel like they can

be comfortable around. I think that's the kind of common theme that you hear when you hear about Arizona's staff and Tommy Lloyd in particular, is just there's a comfort level there that, um, you know, players really like. It's a changing game. Um, there's not a ton of players. They're looking for the guy that's going to be in their face and streaming at them all the time. They want the guy that's going to be able to coach

them and kind of love them up at times. And so, you know, I think there's just that that appeal about playing for Tommy Lloyd that he's again just kind of on their side and there's someone that is going to be pulling for them no matter what. I think that's really made an impact, and I think the players that have ticked them really want to play for Tommy Lloyd. And I think that's become clear when kind of looking at you know,

who they've added and where they've gotten those guys from. It's funny, Matt, because in the past when they had Sean as the coach, and you knew this because they'd say, well, I'm going to play for Sean and felt comfortable, feel like a family, and I like his style of running up and down to get here, and that didn't happen now you know

what happens. Yeah, I mean, I think the if there's one overarching team about recruiting it overall in twenty twenty three is that there's so many different avenue to reach players and the and for players and their families to evaluate coaches and just different different ways to see what they're doing. And you can take so many these visits and all those things. If there's just it's more clear what a coach is about, you know, these days, and I think

players are starting to kind of wise up to that. I think before there was a lot of just kind of trusting what coaches were telling them, and then they get on campus and not even at Arizona, just across the country and see that, oh this is a little bit different than what I was told as a recruit, where I think now there's a lot more transparency and um players, there's just a lot less kind of behind the scenes going on

and players kind of understand okay, I can see then. I think for transfers in particular, that's really the case, and that's really important because they're approaching it going okay, especially at the level like Arizona recruits at. It's pretty clear cut. It's Hey, what can you offer me in terms of an ill money and what's my role going to be? It's pretty clear and

they can figure out everything else later. And yes, so that that short visit time that you have the coach on campus matters and they want to feel, you know, confident in their decision that way. But when you look at transfers, both in football and basketball, it's pretty clear right now, it's what can you give me in terms of nil and how do us hit? And those When they get those two things shipped off, you know, everything else kind of is secondary, but I think it makes it. It

kind of clears up the picture for everybody. And I think coaches feel like they could be more transparent about the situation. And you see a lot of coaches are really like recruiting the transfer portal for that reason because they don't have to you know, wine and dine these these players and you know, bring up the cookie cakes and everything else for special business. It's more clear cut, more business like, and I think a lot of coaches respect that.

I think a lot of players are like, ooh, I'm getting the real kind of transparent what's really going to go on? Because there isn't this whole recruiting process. It's if these decisions are made in a matter of days and weeks and sometimes months, but a lot of times just you know, weeks. Is they're trying to de spid where they're gonna go, and so different than when they're high school recruits, when those relationships are built over years.

And so I think it's about some more transparency. And I think it's just kind of that way across the board, not only at Arizona, but other plays as well. You know, you talk about guys, you know, why don't you find a place you know where they fit you or what is the fit is Tommy is what Tommy Lloyd does in terms of his just the

way he just his game. You know what what the UFA does is that conducive to guys feeling like they can fit in easily, as opposed to say, there go to some really structured offense or really structured defense or whatever. Uh is that is that one of the reasons why he can get guys? I think so. I think that I think there's such there's kind of a

free flowing element to what they do. I think offensively, obviously, there's a huge appeal of playing a system that's up tempo and uh, you know, allows you know, players like Pshaw Johnson to do what he does and playing transition and I'm even you know as you Lois Debellas, they will to play and transition and doesn't have to necessarily kidgeonhole him into something that he isn't And so um, I think that is definitely a big appeal for a lot

of players. And I think they're proving you with who they're bringing in that they can adapt to to what the personnel is. And I think you've seen that, you know, Kashaw Johnson this way to pick up for Arizona is kind of a prime example. He's very different from someone like a Julius Tabellas and what he brings to the game, but he's gonna end up playing the same position and playing a similar role to what you know Tabella's played at Arizona

D and they're very different players. And so I think that on its own tells you, Okay, they can adapt to what the skill set is of the players that they're bringing in, and I think that's built into the system and to what Tommy Lloyd wants to do. I think there's definitely pillars for what he wants to do and playing up Temple style and up Temple style is you know, part of that, and I think that's something that's going to

remain unchanged. He's gonna want to score a bunch of points, but I think there's different elements to what they do that are going to be kind of unchanging. But outside of that, there's a lot of flexibility and what you know, Tommy Lloyd wants to do and what he brings to the floor. And so I think players see that and notice that. And I've just looked

at players developing and having success. I think development is kind of the other key part of this whole process for all players, for recruits and transfers, I think they just want to, hey, how can you get me to

the next level. We've talked about that a lot on the show before the draining where it's NBA NFL is kind of on the mind for a lot of these players and recruits, and um, you know, they've seen I think the progress that Tommy load has been able to make with a lot of different guys, and I think that's been in a big play of the appeal as well. So you cover the PAC twelve down more more than you did before. Okay, Arizona's group is well and fine, what about the rest of

the group. Where does it land among them? Yeah, it's going to be very interesting. I think you stelt to kind of figure out where everyone else is going to end up. I think USC is going to be a very interesting team. Um, They've had a lot of talent, a lot of younger talent. Um, you know, they bring back one of their top players, and they're going to be a very interesting team to watch because they do have a lot of young talent coming in. UCLA is kind of

in the midst of trying to figure out what it's going to do. They have, you know, a pretty big high school recruiting class, but transfer wise, they haven't really hit hit hit, hit it big yet and so um, you know, they could be taking a step back based on just their rosters. So Oregan has been very active and in voting the ton of transfers, as you would expect for day all, many kind of always retools

out roster. Washington's brought in a couple of young players. So um, it's gonna be interesting to see kind of how it all how it all plays out. But I think Arizona is going to be very much right in the mix based on what they've done. Um, you know, bringing in Jaden Bradley from Alabama, who somebody they wanted right when Tommy Wood arrived. I was kind of their prime target at one point in time and got very close to bringing him to Arizona. But now they get him the second time around.

I think he's going to be a very valuable piece. And bringing in more international players, you know, that's kind of a big X factor I

think. So Arizona is where the international player is going to do and how do they adjust because are they going to be Is there gonna be someone like as UIs Deblos who's ready to go right away is able to contribute, or is there going to be someone more like Henry where it's going to take him some time and maybe see glimpses, but you need to still see that development.

So that's gonna be the thing for Arizona that I think changes. You know, the success changes kind of on what those guys are able to do. But so far, I like the makeup of the roster. M probably going to add another piece here at some point, and um, looks like they probably need another guard within this rotation. But so far, I mean it's it feels like it's it's progress and the roster's coming together pretty well. A quick question to gonna question, you know, move do football after this?

Good? A question about nil? How much of effectored had to play in for any of the guys here, because we're talking, We talked about it almost every other day and the importance of Arizona having NIL money. Yeah, I mean, it's it's part of every decision. I mean, that's it's it is the top one or two things that ever your recruit and every player is going to talk a lot right now, it's kind of a given that you're going to have some kind of NIL package put together. It's what

coaches are talking about a lot across the board. Um, you know, it's it's no longer about you know what necessarily just about what you can do for them as a player on the court. It's it's what can you do for me branding wise and to build my brand into um, you know, prepare me for the future that way, and to you know, give me money right now. And so it's part of every decision. I think any fan of thinks it's not as be naive. Um, every coach in the

country wants more of it, wants it's a bigger ni outpool. Um, it's just part of the game and it's just part of what goes on. I mean, the specifics are are difficult these days. I mean, nobody wants to talk about it necessarily yet and you know, specific dollar amounts that they're getting and that's still kind of, uh, kind of kept in the

background. But it's it's part of every decision. And the more money you have, the more more in player going to be for every player and recruit right now, because it's just kind of part of the whole process, and um, you know, especially the chance for players. I mean, it's more clear cut in that sense, and I think you know it'd bean I used to think that it's not part of the equation. And the more money you have available, it's just going to be put you in better position for

the players you really want. Football. Well, they've got a couple of minutes to talk about football. They got the receiver from Colorado who've made a big splash at their spring game and then walked out to the door the next day. You know, there's Colorado guys going all over the place. I guess the question is, you know, the Colorado wasn't very good, but how good are these players and how good of a guy did uh did Arizona

get in the from there? Yeah, it's really interesting. I mean I had a lot of comments coming back at me from Colorado fans saying, oh, well, he was not even that good last year, and you guys are making too big of a deal about it. But it feels like a pretty significant pickup to me. He was one of their top two receivers last year. He was responsible for winning them their only game last year. He caught a touchdown in overtime on a crazy cat that was very Dorian Singer esque.

You know, he was had a decent amount of yards and decent amount of catches um. Their offense really struggled last year. They went through a quarterback rotation and really never settling on any one guy, so they had all kinds of problems. But he was one of the bright spots to me, and as he mentioned in the spring game, he really stood out and really

made an impact. And I'm sure there's a lot of fans at that point going, Okay, this is the guy that everyone you know saw glimpses of last year and it's only going to springboard him into you know, this next season. And then, as he mentioned, he kind of walks out the door the next day and enters the transfer portal. And again part of kind of college sports in twenty twenty three, you have to imagine that he didn't just have that game and then the next day to say I'm going to enter

the portal. It was probably building, but the spring spring game gives you an opportunity to be, you know, on display in showcase their abilities for all these teams, and you know, it just made a lot of sense for Arizona. When you lose Duran Singer, you need somebody with some experience. I know there's been a lot of push for Kevin Green to make an

appearance. And that's kind of the issue of college coaches right now and that they're facing, is that do you kind of plan for the future and develop somebody and get some get a younger player some experience and try and develop him, or do you go for the more sure thing, the more proven thing, you know, with someone like Montana Alimonius Craig, who's proven that he can play at this level and has had some success and then showcase what he

did in the spring game. It's a it's a difficult spot to be in, but I think there was always that clear desire by Arizona to find another receiver, a third guy to go with t Mac and to go with Jacob Cowing. Um allows you to maybe move Jacob Cowing back inside into the slot, the more natural position, and based on kind of what what the situation was looking like. I don't know that they could have gone a better fit

that was out there, that was available right now. And um, I think it is an upgrade over everybody else that they have, and now they move forward and have a really solid, you know, starting unit there with with the addition. Well, thanks Matt. One thing I've just learned from that conversation was that I think the Colorado fans are just as bitter as Arizona fans. It's based everybody's happened. I realized that there were Riveros. They're

all Rivers apparently. Thanks Matt, I appreciate, thank you absolutely. I guess you know most fans are like that, fans who care like that, right, Yeah, but it could be realistic to pain in the ass. I know they are, but what are you gonna do? Right? At least they're fans. So I was out yesterday with some good group of friends and they post on Facebook and they they talk to me about the show.

They love the show. We got more people listening than we think we did, and and people you me know, and he says, you must love sports. That's ports fan. We went through that guy and he said, you gotta be you gotta know. I'm telling you, I don't worry about stuff like you guys. Do you know I don't go home crying engine Yeah, yeah, but I'm not gonna cry at the Dodgers news or I'm not gonna the Lakers. I've that was once one more than I was nine years

old, more than one more than you needed to. But you understand, I'm still come on, it's not that big of a deal. Man. Okay, let's get out of here for a little bit. We'll take a break. We're gonna come back. We'll take your calls five two zero, four one, six seventy four forty. They don't have to topping news, breaking breaking news from it's Monday. Man. I did take my man's a man. I think that's the problem, all right, It's Monday. It's

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Yeah, yeah, five, two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty again, you know, I mean, look own up to it, right, If you're one of those fans losing their minds over the Arizona basketball recruiting, I'd love to hear what you have to say. Yeah, Yeah, they're not gonna call him. They're not gonna call Come on, they're not gonna give us a call. Let us know why you lost

your mind and do you feel better about it now? I try to save I know that whatever, guess we talk about all the time, we try to save the names of the people who kind of go crazy at the student level, Jason, A lot of people talk a lot of crap. No really, I think for us students, we trust Tommy Lloyd, like like you guys have mentioned before, like he has shown you know that he can coach a team, he can produce, get a win obviously, then turn

and play tournament play. We aren't, you know, going where we need to going out far as we expect them too. But as far as you know the games most of the most part, you know, he's been able to produce a good enough team that we can trust him to recruit good players and produce on the on the court slum yea. Yeah, but there were a bunch of them, Jay, they were everywhere and they were loud. Yeah. Yeah, are knew it? I knew it. Faith blah blah

blah. I've lost you know, saying I've lost faith in Tommy. Look, it's probably the guy who's been married and divorced a few times. I lost marriage, I lost the faith in my wife. Two years into it, yeah exactly, Come on, two years into it, he's won sixty sub games. Yeah again, once again. Would rather be a Sue Miller exactly. Yeah. But we're not here to tell aboudy Tommy, No, we're not. I mean, give it a break. We just say. All we said back then was give this time, you give to stop losing

your mind that he sucks because one guy decided to go somewhere else. The issue now though, and I've said this, I don't know if I said it here, but somewhere else. Okay, Al's well, and fine, now you gotta win. Oh yeah, and guess what. It doesn't matter about December January pebbruy matters in March. Yeah, but but you know,

but but that's just the thing. That's all you're saying is, even if you feel like he didn't get a good recruiting class, wait till you see what happens on the court before he started saying he's a terrible coach or whatever. And all these people, the ones that bothered me more than anything, and I said it a bunch of times, I'm gonna repeat myself again, was the people who were saying he won with with Sean Miller's guy, yea, yea, And will repeat myself again by saying, and Sean Miller got

fired with Sean Miller's guy. So I know there were other other factors and Sean Miller being fired, but he didn't win with those guys. Let's also say this, and I've been wanting to say this watching Miami. Okay, these are all top DOTCH players are obviously there for a reason. Seven of them went undrafted. It's a group of put together guys who played with the sport together. Well, so, talent wins a lot of games, yeah, but a lot of times it doesn't win a lot of games. How

you play, who had more talent? Princeton, Princeton, I'll give you cla over the weekend, right, Oh god, we haven't talked about that and who had better uniforms, But you know, my point is, it's how you played that day. Well, I'm gonna say that USLA would have lost by more if they didn't have those nice uniforms. Okay, they don't guarantee winning. They just guaranteed that you'll play better than if you did. And that was to me one of the most unbelievable things I've seen in a

long time. You know, we were we were talking about that. I was actually on the golf course when that happened, and we were talking about how, you know, how rarely that happens, especially in women's sports. Were this was after the first loss, saying that how rarely it happens that a top seed loses in the first round at home. I think it happens more more often than we than we remember. But they always come back and

win. Right. Yeah, when they lost the second time, you're thinking, holy emolding to I mean they lost to Liberty and and uh and Grant. Yeah. One thing you especially don't see it in women's sports because it's true to form most of the time, right where the top seeds be the lower season, it happens majority of the more. Think of Yukon, you think of Baylor, you think of of South Carolina. Now you think of the Stanford that they just don't lose. You know, they win, they

win championships all the time. They lose to each other, but they don't lose to you know, they don't lose to Arizona. They don't lose Georgia Tech, they don't lose to you know. It's so it seems like in women's sports more predictable as far as stuff like that goes up from UCLA to lose back to back games at their own place and beyond of the tournament is crazy, especially for them being this good. Yeah, but again, Arizona fans, we're bit or may not be the right word, but you know,

the two transfers. Yeah, well you got what you deserve. YadA YadA, blah blah blah, you left us and enough already. Yeah. Well, well there was a lot of social media there, that's what you get kind of kind of comments. I'm like, well, you know, look, they left for probably the same reason that we're talking about everybody else. Yeah, and they did get to the tournament. Write money and and and opportunity and whatnot. Um, you know, so I'm you know,

I'm actually a lot less um unhappy. I don't what the right word is, but it's like you expect it. Now players are gonna go play where the money is right, and you know, we just we just got off the phone with Matt Mordano and you know, whereas the you know, the amount of money you were getting was a factor because it was under under the table. But now it's the number one factor about where kid's gonna play.

And now if the money is there, then they'll talk to you about fit and the coaching and the campus living conditions and are there enough girls or of

guys? Are there you know enough of all these things. But number one on the list has become money because because in a lot of cases, this is the only time they're gonna make money playing their sport, right, Janelle Mionnel is not going to go make you know, one hundred thousand dollars somewhere playing softball, right, And that's not assuming that she did make that.

But yeah, but I'll just saying that. But I think if if she got that amount or whatever amount of money she got, she's only gonna make this for the time she's a college a college softball player. And to your point, I think last week, and I don't mention your points very often, she was betting ninth. Is that what you said? She's beting ninth on a pretty good team. Here, she was betting first. Yeah,

she was the best player on the team. You know, there's the trade off of being the big the big fish in the small pot or right or the other way, right, you know, and and again and now these guys we'll see you know this football season, these three guys who left for

your USC you know, the most most visible as Dorian Singer. You know, does he does he become a target for Caleb Caleb Williams Or is he in you know, every every third down or something like that, right, or is he playing all the time and catching passes and you know, making the name for himself to get into the NFL. Why did you come to you? Where did I come? Um? Well, well you're gonna be a doctor. Yeah, it made the most sense. And they offered me

the most amount of money. Well the money there you go, yeah, money again, so yeah, there you go. Yeah, I guess I would be the same way. Yeah, yeah, even at that one. I mean, you know, and it's a it's a different kind of thing, right, you know, yeah, but yeah, but you know, the whole thing. I mean, that's you know, that's the thing that's a part of a thing that my daughter went through when she was looking for

you know, she didn't want her parish to pay for the bill. Duke offered a nice living over there, and she did, well, go, baby, go go. I know she's coming back. Well she well, she got into the working world for a year. I didn't a startup and you know it was okay, but her sights were sent on a PhD all along. She's gonna do that. So she's coming back and she's gonna get it here Arizona, which is very cool, right when she's home this week? Cool, all right, Arizona has moved up into a tie for eighth.

Okay in the golf tournament. Uh, there's still at eleven over, but um so six over for the day. But two of the teams that we're ahead of them have dropped gone backwards, so there are three strokes out of seventh place, so they still got some work to you. It looks like they're gonna have to get into seventh place or I don't know that they're

gonna be able to catch the teams that are. There's three teams tied for forts that basically takes up that would be the six spots, and those teams are two over where Texas in him is eight over than Arizona, Pepper DNA, New Mexico or eleven over. So still hanging on in there there there players are between the thirteenth and sixteenth hole, so they still got a few holes left. Dude, maybe catch up. So I got a text about when Morana was just getting coming on from someone that we both know me more

than you, but he's given you grief. Um so everyone has what it has. Who's gonna shoot, who's gonna score the points? Who's we don't know yet. We don't know yet. I think the luth winning they got last week will probably be one of the shooters. But they'll find ways to get these guys points. Well, let me suggest that when Tommy Lloyd is getting guys, he's getting guys who he thinks can score, right, because that because he runs an offense that puts a bunch of points on the board.

If he doesn't think a guy can shoot the ball, if he doesn't think a guy can score, why would he go after Yeah, I think one of the key places is going to be Boswell. Yeah, very efficient shooting guard shooting you know, if he shoots more, I think that's a good thing, right, I mean, he's shown that he can shoot. I mean he made some incredible I was saying incredible even know what I mean, Like he's very efficient, uh, tough, acrobatic shots. He took

some tough shots, tough times, wasn't afraid to shoot you. He made some shots in the Pac twelf tournament that that were you know, that were money. So I think they got a guy in Boswell who can shoot and he is willing to shoot because remember there were times that people who didn't you know, people thought Kur shot too much. There were times they didn't think he's shot enough. Sure, I take the shot. Sure, And then the final game they wish he would not have and they would have had ball

as well in there instead. Right, Tommy's not gonna get guys who don't fit into the offense and can do what he needs them to do offense. I still think that Philippe is gonna be one of one of the good players and the new little WINNI and guy buy me about all? Please me. That reminds me of our next guests. Uh stand stand? Yeah? Another title we had her own last year when they went when they South Points coach, but four or five in a row, I don't know, bun bunch.

This is her second in a row. Yeah. And then the coach had her had won three or four. Yeah, right, so something like that, right, Okay, you know that you're gonna be the boss one of the busses. Right. What are you gonna cover next year? Um? So I'm mainly gonna be focused on what and then football? Football, not basketball? No, um, our main editor will be oh yeah, yeah, he gets the prime star. It's good to be the bus.

The prime splus should be football. Okay, you're the guy. Yeah, the top the top rider at the Arizona Daily Star in sports, aside from the columnists, was the guy who covered you with football. Okay, just so you know, even even after Arizona got good. Yeah, I mean when I when I went from football, from basketball to football, sort of like now you're the main guy. So the citizen there was the basketball before the football, just telling gotcha, I'm not joking. I'm serious. I

believe you. Yeah, I believe it was just different. It was just different. You'll have a fun time. Well well, but and part of it was because the you know, daily paper, afternoon paper, morning paper, Sunday paper. People wanted the Sunday paper for what was going on in it on the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a big deal obviously, multi big deals. Yeah. And it'll help you moving forward, definitely. Yeah. Okay, we got about two minutes, no more call,

you can't call anymore. So we're gonna have breaking news. Uh, Tricia's zand stand and then more chances at another another more calls in the afternoon, in the after of the first second hour, Um, I were you gonna call cover the NFL flex stuff? No, you can. Okay, here's here's a little piece of news that it's come out. So the NFL has uh is um adjusted their scheduling where they're going to allow two Thursday night games

to be flexed. By that, we mean they can they it might not be a Thursday, it might not be on the Thursday schedule now, but with a month's notice, they can move a game to Thursday night, um and they can do it twice a year, uh in a season. So there because they can do that on Monday on Sunday night, and they can also do it on Mondays right now, so now on Thursdays, which is a little bit different because you know, Thursday Thursday game versus a Sunday game

is a lot different. But they're gonna they're gonna allow that two times during the year. The NFL can change a Sunday game for Monday game to a Thursday. That's tough because how do you prepare a month, But they got to do it a month in advance. They got to go twenty eight days in advance. So you've got that, you got that amount of time, but still a change still qui you know you might have some play you know, and where where people are having some questions about it, is it for

fans. Right, what if you're the fan that's got a trip planned and you got tickets to the Sunday game, all of a sudden that game gets moved to Thursday. Also, there was one who Thursday is streamed? Right? Is it streamed? Yeah? That that's on on Amazon Prime? How did that go? I mean, because I didn't think they did well with it. I can't remember. I don't remember seeing a Thursday game streamed. I never I watched them. You're good. You have what is it on

Amazon? Amazon? Amazon Prime? Yeah? If you watched yeah and I didn't watch it, Yeah, get Amazon Prime, dude. No free shipping, sports fan free shipping. You don't need it for sport, for being a sports We're gonna at something. We're gonna have to We're gonna have some that's my charm. That's what I'm doing it. I'm gonna have to get you stop saying that you're not okay, because I've got a couple of quick questions. We go to break here and then there's a dark spot, like

there's no commercial, there's there's a reason for that. The national takes over and they kind of feel their their two minutes or whatever, and then we come back. So people ask why he starts too, Well, that's because there's there's a two minute a hole in the hole in the radio right right that they take care of. We're coming back. We're always back. Right at the top of the hour. Look at your watch or your clock or your your phone, and when it hits the top of the hour, we're

back. We're back. We'll have breaking news from Jackson. All right, we'll be right back.