Eye on the Ball, which four hours. By no way, make sure your most ride r at I Heeart Radio. But afternoon, everybody, welcome to Eye on the Ball, you know, Fox fourteen to see I'm Steve vera Blom, said host jaganzas we gotta Jason with us today. Feels like we've been away for a month. I like it. You know, somebody actually thought our show was like over, are you guys like done? Did you guys? Did you guys end your show? Like no? We you know, we had a couple of things to do. We took some days
off to kind of get cut off on a few things. Yeah, so you know, we just had to take a couple of days off. Sorry, called life. You know what, I'm happy that somebody was asking exactly missed somebody like Sally Field the really literally guys exactly? Yeah, Hey, yeah, I didn't check you, sading frisk you. But did you bring it down to the work today? Man? You know what, No, And as you get upset, I just you know, I'm gonna ask you
this to Jason, so be prepared. Wasn't one of those things, Steve, where I want guys who have these incredible opportunities that they wouldn't otherwise have to not screw it up. Yeah, right on stupid stuff. And so no, I didn't bring his gun to work today. So Jason, did you uh, you know when I'm referring to we're talking about the jam jammer. So so when he told us, you, everyone else, including the world, that he knew he made a mistake in January, March whatever it
was, Yeah, did you say, Okay, we'll see Yeah. I mean I figured because it happened too quickly for him and just like flip the sword to be like I'm good, you can move forward now. I'm like that was more of his what his team told him to say, rather than it was he actually that was you know, really meant. So I figured, as as soon as the off season can just gonna continue his antics. And so not a surprise, no, not a surprise, no, yeah,
not a surprise. But they're disappointing because, like I said, you know, and we would say this every time something like this comes up, but we would have given to have an ounce of the talents that those guys have, to have an opportunity like they've been given, and then to watch him piss it away the way they do it just really bothers. I think eventually, well, I'm sure there's gonna be a heavy fine and another big suspension. Yeah, I heard he's probably going to miss a lot of the
next season, if not the whole season. Wouldn't you be really pissed off to pure his teammate because you already cost me to see a pretty good season, right? How about being the commissioner of the NBA. You know that guy, because you know that you know, he gave him the benefit of the doubt. He really got suspended for two games, not six, because you know, he set out, had set up six games. He was
already by the time they announced the suspension. They says an eight game suspension, so he only had to miss two more games and then he was back. They led him off so easy, they gave him a chance, and yet you know, does it again, and then he did it a out kind of having to gilbal Arenas right, kind of like Arenus worked his way out of the out of the out of the league. Still time to play,
right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's just so disappointing. And and the thing is, you know, he got in that trouble and he went back and hung around with all the same guys doing all the same things, and he has buddies, his buddies, so whatever where you filming him? Yeah? Well what the world these hangers on filming him, filming him and then putting it up on social media. Yeah, so the video, it's friend in the car with him once job, you know, pulled it
out. His friend like trying to like move the camera up and those way too late, and they go and they fought up there. Yeah, and somebody spotted. Yeah imagine if were not around, right, yeah, oh yeah, but you know here and here's the thing now to me is that you just are waiting for something really bad to happen with him, whether it happens to him or he does something right that he doesn't get it. So and he's not gonna get it. I don't think he's gonna get it.
Let's say let's say he's out of the NBA because of this right because nobody wants to touch him. He gets suspend or whatever, nobody's gonna take him. Let's say he gets out of the NBA and he's got all this moneys do all whatever he's doing until until it runs out. You just feel like this is a guy who doesn't have control of himself, and he's gonna do something. Either he's gonna kill somebody or he's gonna get killed, which is
weird because his background isn't like that. Likes both thoth parents, a supported family around him. Like he's a good kid, smart guy, Like I don't know why he's doing this, Like he's got idiots around. Yeah, and he lets himself be directed by these idiots. Yeah. Well, and he's got to be smarter than those idiots, right, he's not. Yeah, unfortunate. There's also a phrase that I use often. Uh it's the mom who says, well, he hangs around. He just hangs around the
backgroud, ma'am. He is thinking the bad he's the back out in that exactly. All the money, right, guys with his buddies don't have the money. No, yeah, you know you could if you didn't have any money thing to be doing this stuff. So it is what it is not to be a preachy. But I just thought that was God with Steve. You know. I mean, hopefully somebody, some kid out there, you know it's maybe headed towards this kind of a career. You want them to
see this and say, just say don't do that. Just don't do that postal child with what not to do? Right, yeah, right. You can do a lot of things, and you have a lot of freedom when you've got a lot of money like that, but there's some freedoms that you don't have and this is one of them, and you blow it and blow it right. Gilbert should talk to him. Gilbert should and say, you know, this is what happened to me. Oh, hey's okay. So we got about Tim and a good show today a Monday for for a Monday.
We got the Pima all right. Pema's got a lot of stuff going on, including the baseball team getting to the district championship. Now, um Wonda Region beat the Arizona Western two out of three, So I think go to Nebraska. I guess. Is that like a is there a tournament? I meant to look it up and they is it a tournament or is it like a super Reachi? No? I think it's a tournament. And then to try and get to be one of the final eight in the national tournament,
which I haven't been in and long time. When it used to be they did it a few times, you know during the Rich all Day years yeah, so good luck with that. Um. They had some a couple of golfers that finished pretty women's golfers finishes as all Americans. So some some cool smartical stuff. We're up up, We're up season upright tonight today, director Pima. And then at four fifteen Kent Summers, who's retired but he's still doing some stuff, and he wrote a column for three sixty Sports Arizona
and talking about Montie Williams getting fired. Yeah that was crazy. Yeah, I don't Yeah, it's crazy. We'll talk more about ten. I was in Phoenix Thursday to watch the Diamondbacks and right across the street, you know, trying to find parking. There was probably more people at the Sun's game than nowhere at the diamond Bad right, and they could Uh we heard the seven eighth ten and it was two zero. We gotta get coming out out of here for the beat. The traffic and Suns guys were already ended up
that way. He was over at the end of the fish. But yeah, twenty two years in row, um he was. He's been the savior of that so that organization for four years. Sorry, we don't need you anymore to see like, yeah, well you guys to where we want you know, you guys where we want you to get us. Now go, We'll get somebody else to finish this. Yeah, right, I wanted you
know. It's funny because um, I've probably talked including your reading you know, can't can't call him today, and just a couple other people I think are you know, semi knowledgeable about about the NBA. All of them said they needed to do that. Yeah, really was coaches the year two out of its four years. Yeah, got got him do a finals and turned turned to programmer. I'm a franchise around in no time flat, and let's
get him now out. Jay. I don't know if you'll agree with me, Jason, but if you lose the ear of the team, right, whoever these they'll shut down on you. Hey, we we've seen it here, are you right. We just don't talk about it because because it happens, we saw it a few times in here that the guys just you know, I don't need to play for you. Well and yeah, and it's the whole thing too of you know, a new owner, wasn't his guy? Well, hey, you know we were talking about that. We talk
about that in the time. So if he's not your guy. He'll find your guy. Yeah, you know, guy said, dy, thanks for getting us here. We appreciate everything you did. Don't let the door hitch in the ass right next up? Whatever? Yeah, and he'll probably set next You'll get a job, you know the guys job. I heard the bucks are am I looking to him? So he would definitely get a job. But yeah, but they're gonna switch switch coaches with the Yeah, what
are the issues that I have? And you know this, I don't did you follow Eden when you were a kid, because he was here a little kid. He is what he is, Jay, you know this. You know this. Everyone says he doesn't play motivated. When did he? When did he? Guy's if that's who you are, Yeah, that's where you are. I an argument with my son about it. He said he was really good. I said, I know he's really good, But didn't you feel like four times that he took time off and he just kind of comcial
to not He said, yeah, he disagreed with me. Oh, you just said that he didn't see that. Oh he didn't want to see it. Yeah, maybe you know he didn't want to see it because it's Aidan's one of the guys, you know, but no, he Hey, if you're seeing it, I'm seeing it. You're seeing it, honey. More people have seen it. Yeah, you know, you just can't see all. A lot of people have seen it. Okay, we'll talk more about that town with kend because because they can't get rid of Dayton to get a
find of the coach. Well, I think they're going to though. I think they well think I think I think he's whether he is or isn't a problem, he is seen as one of the problems. But we clearly got that image that he's a problem, that he's not doing as much as he should be doing for a number one overall. And guess we're a new venue. Won't change bull change of things sometimes it can, though sometimes it can. But Mike bet Is, Nah, you work where you are right,
you are who you are. Okay, lots to talk about. I know you probably have a lot of breaking news. There's a lot of stuff involved in us that we'll probably sit in and out of baseball season, softball season, a lot of seasons. And I know we'll talk to some softball But I I did go catch the UCLA Arizona game. Do silly Arizona game. Oh oh yeah, that must have been exciting. I gotta tell you, um, I've changed my mind about damn about Arizona. There's a big talent
gap right now. But yeah, you know, you know that. I looked at UCLA's roster, and then I looked at Arizonas roster. Arizonas all freshman, all freshman. I mean, there's like three juniors and above something like that, three may be four. LA was all juniors and seniors, you know, and so that's where they UCLA had a Evan's year seniors,
whether they're clean up hitters seven years. So you've been here since like the nineteen fifty you know, and and you know, you just look at the age of these of these of these players, the maturity of these it was it was it was wait wait, I guess I guess the comment that it was women against girls, you know, and now we say, you know, men against those women against girls. There were these all these grown up
women playing these you know. I mean, yes, you had Devin Nets and the you know, uh, um Izzie Patch, a couple of you know, I hired love but Arizona's nothing much fresh year. You change, I think you try to think as bad as everybody thought. You know, there are so people on the old famous Internet say, of course doing this, doing that, of course, And we'll talk about someone because I'm sure I'm way can get into the whole breaking his aspect of that. But I
did go see that game he was gonna play. It was gonna play tough. They hung in there. Um, you know the Pactael players that you heard a couple of homers against him, and that was a difference in the game. You know, it was you know, it may have been that had they won that game, they might have gotten in. So they pitching again, you still same issues. Just Devinness pitched really well, she pitched
the whole games. She pitched really well. She gave, she gave, She threw a four hitter, but three of them ahammers and that's how they lost. And that's all. You know, I just wanted to see, doesn't look as bad as it sounds, and it did not that mean that one and for that one game, for that one game, yeah, okay, well they didn't get in and we'll talk more about that later. Anything
else going on. We have about two two three minute We hope to get some calls at the back end of this hour or like three forty three forty five. Have our people calls calls. We're gonna have Monaco here in about five ten minutes. UM, so that'll be good too. Break this is coming up. Yeah, Badford's back. He's there's only eight horses like he's back. He's back. Um. Yeah, And I don't think it was the winner. The winner of the derby is in but very few from the
from the you know that this is something we hadn't talked about. Um. U have a guy who we try to get on a time or two. Um who trainer Forte Plech Tod Pletcher has been suspended. Oh that's the same reason. Whoa when just recently ten days for drugging. Fourteen was caught with drugs on September. I didn't know that. The come on, man, you're not learning that the U A are you? So that was an issue or it's an issue you won't fourteen won't be running in this one. So
it should be interesting, should be a good day of racing. Okay, you follow horse race more than I do. How does a horse who was a long shot in the Kentucky Derby comes around and wins it? Okay, all of a sudden, they were the they were the total favorite in the next race. You know, let's say, I mean, if they hadn't they hadn't won the Derby, would they You know, they sucked before the Derby. Now they win a race which a lot of horses just come up
and all of a sudden win and have a great day. Now it's like, you know, the prohibitive face were to win the next race. Is that I totally understand because people seen him for the first time. People seen him for the first time, even though they've run a few times before, and now they know who they are. But like this this guy, I don't think he's gonna win because this style won't fit for this track because you need to be fast like that eighty one long shot last year. And also
he was like one of the favorites for the Derby. He was an eighty one long shot. Really wasn't any good, right, he got, he got, but he broke through one race and all of a sudden, he's one of the best horses in the world. You're your long weeks later. Your logic doesn't work for horse race. It doesn't work for is how you how you run that day. Some horses don't like to run on certain days. You know, It's just the way it is. That's why this tons
a tough game. Man's a tough game. Richard Egan something like, he's not right. You know, he had a tough y, had a tough derby day. No way, you know, you know because you find him. I've won with him before. Yeah, that's my point. There were days and there were not good Yeah there day. Yeah, I mean, just how that happens. All right, let's take our break. We're going to come back. Jim Monicope Athletic Kahama College about all the supports over there.
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Gon Dallas on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio while just searching High on the Ball and welcome back to us about here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty Steve, he's Jake. You gotta calls this Jim Monico. It is Jim. How are you good? Afternoon you and well thank you make me you're on the air, so we're happy to have you on the air. What a fantastic year is the season over or no
base fantastic season you guys have had and continues. It's amazing. Um, it's been a crazy day to be honest with you, trying to get everybody all over the place. We've got teams everywhere, so it's just been outstanding. Well, we know we saw her baseball dead over the weekend, so they've moved on in the tournament. So you said you've got teams elsewhere, tell us who's gone where right now? So we just brought back the women.
Maria our golfer, finished and then did great. She's a two time All American and getting ready to make a decision on which Division one school she's going to. Our men's team is now in Wichita. They actually passed in the airport, so they're out there now competing for the national championship in golf.
Our men's team, let's see where also are we track leaves tomorrow to go to Hobbs, New Mexico, to complete in the national Championships out there, they'll be going for the next week, and then baseball leaves tomorrow morning to head to Nebraska. So this is a naive dumb question, Jim, who pays for the travel if they've made the postseason? That is a terribly naive dumb question. I know that's a college page for our our travel for
championships. The college does, okay, so it still comes out of Pima. Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. The NJCAA is nothing like the NCAA when it comes to that. That's why sko k wow I didn't realize that it's not a cheap No, it's incredibly expensive. Yeah, makes sense. So god, oh you know what, I don't want to bring you down
thinking about that, so sorry. So let's first talk about baseball. I mean, you know, because that's a sport that has been you know, historically great, you know, some past appearances in the national tournament whatnot. But um, you know, they've they've had a really good year. We talked to Ken hackemy during the year. Just tell us a little bit about what you saw those guys do this year. Let me be honest, They've done nothing else than they've done every year. I mean, that guy plays
right. I always said how tough the WSFL was when we had four ball.
They compared it to the SEC, and Greg Hanson did an amazing article and compared us to the Pac twelve and the conference are champions, and here he is, you know, he wins the most games in team history and doesn't make the playoffs, right, and this year he feels a team that just believes they can do it and went out there and with a little bit of the way that the ball bounced and everything else, this year it was our turn and those kids are just they're outstanding young men and they work really
hard and ken hold into a really high standard. I mean, it's enjoyable to watch those guys play. I'm curious because you're the AD obviously that's why you have you on. But you must be busy going to all these events. How is life for you with all these events? So last week, you know, we were at the ADS conference in Yuma while we're trying to well, I'm trying to get ready to host a championship. So you're constantly doing something and you know a lot of guys are like, well, are
you're going to Nebraska to watch him play? Well? No, because I have good men in Wichita can this and uh and and I have another track team with with forty people going to nationals in Hog, New Mexico. I said so realistically. And my assistant is one of the assistant track coaches. So I'm like, I've got to be available in case things, you know, don't go right, and I've got a bunch of coaches and kids that I have to make sure are safe and good. So I stay home and
kind of handle the control room. You know, they talked about the golf team, you know, the golf team is passing each other at the airport. And you know, we've always been impressed with Marcus Smith. He he you know, we had we had him on you know, his first season as as the coach, and at that time he seemed like such a little kid still right, but you know, we had him on, you know, a couple of weeks ago and he's like, you can tell that he's
matured into like a junior college golf coach. Do you see what coaches look like after a few years, it's like the president. So in another year, Marcus will be ball. So you know, it's just, you know, it is what it is. And I think the nature of the beast to be in a junior college coach and at his age and experience was so far behind the curve, right, And he just jumped in with both feet
in a couple of arms and said I'm gonna do this. And he's done it, and he's done an amazing job, and he has matured and he's he's a great guy and a really great coach. And the guys in the Great Ladies play hard. From yeah, yeah, no questions, let's sell. We got about five minutes, so we're talking to Jim Monico. The idea PIM overall for the year. Women's soccer again very good. The men's soccer, of course, very good. He's my understanding. You're trying to
get the national tournament back or did you already do that? I was stupid enough to go ahead and do it. It will have it back, And this year it's actually a day longer because they wanted one more day of rest. That was the national office. So yeah, that's the second week in November. All that all the college will be back in Tucson, come for a national championship. Yeah. Pressure, huh, but but you must love you've loved it. Obviously you wanted it back because there's a reason for that.
But it's kind of be like the two Sons or PIMA is the headquarters for great soccer team? Is it doesn't? You know, you're right, but PEAM is the headquarters for great athletics? Makes sense? Yeah, well, I mean it is. It is right. I mean we look at things really in such a different light now in the last five six years, because not only do we do great things on fields, we've always bragged about the classroom. In this past semester three one, four, so we beat
last year's three zero six. It's like hitting sixty two bombs in the next year hitting sixty four. Wow, look at you guys. So it's dated. Great. Back back to the soccer Terama. What did you like about hosting it last year? I mean, I know, as Steve said, it had to be a lot of work, but there's there's a reason you wanted to bring it back. What did you like about doing it? What did I like about doing it? Truthfully? Is it puts It puts Pima
and Tucson on the national collegiate mallot. You know, we have the un the University of Arizona, and they're amazing at everything, but people don't have a tendency to look at what we have here, and I think the JC Tournament brings that to light. With the hotels and the weather and the facility. Right it's not on the U of a campus, it's another facility. It shows people not only what we have, but what we have to offer when it's time to pick a place to live. Rightly, no question,
m who did you have to impress? I'm sure they probably said, no doubt, let's just go back because the weather is fantastic, I'm sure all the opponents or the other people enjoyed it too, because I think it's that time. The weather was fantastic. So I'm going to say something and it's usually not me because I don't I don't blow my own horn whatsoever. And
it's still not me. But they said it was the best tournament they've ever been to with the hospitality tend and what the city and our local food just did for us to help us. The facility they thought was amazing. Once again, the weather was incredible, and we had the highest attendance in the last fifteen twenty years that anybody can remember. So so do you go to your do you go to your soccer coaches and say, okay, we're doing this again, so get your stuff in gear and you better be there,
or how do you how do you handle that? It's exactly right, I said, one way or another, you're gonna be there, so you need to play in it. You can work at one. Very true, but you know what, given the coaches you have and the players you have,
they'll be back. Oh are you kidding? Causing and Kendra two of the best coaches in the country, and no matter what they have, they'll put the best product on the field and it's never been a disappoint So, Jim, we talked to your coaches from the different sports all the time and they just talk about the atmosphere that you've created over there. Well, you know, thinking back, because you know from the time that you got there to now, what do you think has been the key to what you guys have
been doing from a pro gram standpoint? And I know you're going to say all these things about all these people that you that are there, but there's something that you've had to have done and that you say your sights on in terms of this is what I want to do to create something great here? What did you what are some of those things? The only thing I really wanted to accomplish was for us to become cohesive, a family like and we've done that and I mean that in the aspect of caring for each other.
You know, at one time it was a soccer program, it was a baseball program. Now there's an athletic program, and we're just pieces of the one body and everybody. It's not a buying things. They just they gravitated towards that. The kids are amazing. They each support each other's sports, and they're at every other event, and the coaches actually care and help each other, and I don't I don't think you can have a lose, you
know. I mean I tell them I love them all the time because I'm nothing without them, and they're incredible, and I just want them to know that and to pass that same, you know, that same mentality and mentorship down to their kids. I want them to believe in something bigger than themselves.
Right, we didn't even talk about the men's and women's are basketball progress because right they're very good ranked most year, so it's not all Yeah, Trodd went to the national tournament again and Brian lost in the championship game. I mean, god, you know it's it's just listen. If it's not for you guys and for all the other the sports people in Tucson, nobody knows about p mccaullege athletics and it is a diamond. Yeah, no,
yes, no doubt it. It's just you guys. Well, you guys always give us something to talk about, so we appreciate that much first for sure. So, um, you're kind of funny. Yeah, yeah, you know, wasn't like so so you're watching all these things from a distance. Um, what do you have your eye on right now? Honestly, I have to look the next year. Already this year is done. Um, we're giving everybody the the the same they need to succeed for this year.
That travel that we want to make sure they're traveling the best they can because they've earned that. I truly believe the coaches and kids have earned a quality trip. So we've worked hard on that. Now we have to look at next year and see. You know, in my honest opinion, I want to see athletics grow. We are we are the best thing going. And why wouldn't you sink your money into your best crop? Yeah? No, great, fantastic Jim as usual, appreciate you. Oh you guys are
amazing. Thanks so much. Guys, thanks about Jim Monica from PEMA. No good stuff that Then He's right, I mean, it's a fantastic you never thought this twenty years ago. I mean the amazing thing is because you know, Tucson has had Tuson has been good at certain sports, right baseball, softball, you know, softball? You know, then soccer became a thing. You know, basketball probably took a little longer, right, you know, but but now peam of basketball has been good for a while.
Um, you know, so when you when you's in now golf, I mean, you know, so when you see that all these sports because look, I look, I knew some guys, you know, we knew guys who are you know in sports period? It wasn't always this way, right, and I think you knew that, you know, And so you know when you see how many sports are doing so well, that's how you really and by accident, right, it is not by accident. Yeah, okay, let's take a break, come back, take your calls. I hope
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to call Howard. I hope you're okay, not under some tree or some part everybody else down, but you know, it is what it is. We'll talk to him a lot. Whatever you guys want to talk about, just give us a quick call. Uh see if you missed us for a couple of days. Yeah, you know, somebody did miss us, right, I got some notes wondering where where the heck we were. We just had stuff to do and you know we again, as people know, we do other stuff. So sometimes you just gotta try to catch up. And
then you know that that allowed us to do that. Yeah right, okay, cool, what else we're gonna talk about? I don't want to get into your your area of your life, Jason with the breaking news, So yeah, that's kind of hard. There was. So Baffort's coming back up for Time to Go. He's probably gonna be more of the story than than
the extual race because he's been there already. Some stuff out of social media and stuff, and yeah, you know, the athletics got a story on him that I haven't read, but it's a good story that just came out. Dania O'Neill, who who we know is the the sympathizer and in the kind of sympathizer, she's the one that go gets you actually yeah, yeah, she's the one that did the story. She's sort of a watchdog for athletic right. Um, So there's that, and what else is going on?
What does she saying? She it's a good story, how he thought he was railroaded. Yeah, and she's still you know, he says that, right, he still says that he's it's in behind him. But he's still trying to get his name clear to all that he did mention Pulcher or they didn't mention Pletcher in the story. He's backing Pletcher because people don't understand the business. Uh, you know, you failed rooke this. Yeah, but it was like there were circumstances for involved involved, and that's just it
is what it is. I can't explain it. For another horse died at Churchill. There was like seven or eight now because last week threw the the whole bunch another one like today? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's and that happened. Remember that sent me then and mar Forever had a whole bunch of an and they had him here too at the Rito. Also in the NBA starts here tomorrow, at least from my mind, the Lakers, the Lakers the Western Conference finals, yea, and then the Eastern You're hanging up
red dude, now your team. I like, I liked my chest, like k I really loved my chests with Denver. If they can stop a D, I think they get to. Yeah, dat series is going to determine on a D and Yoki's matchup. Whoever one's that maxical one the series? Yeah yeah, um, so I still I'm still I bet even more on in Denver. So um you put them on on it? Oh yeah, I like Denver, I like Denver lot Yeah yeah. Um what you think about about the way the did you did you see Steve Kers said about
the team? Yeah? I thought it was perfectly on the said we weren't a champion, perfectly honest with what I agree perfectly. They were a horrible, horrible away road. They're a really really bad row team. And you know Jordan Pool didn't play up to the standard. I didn't you know, Yeah, we knew that, right. Did you see the reasons why they hit him and punched him and just respecting Steve and they wanted him He is kind of I didn't realize this, but you can see how he plays ye
consistent, a little punkish. Yeah, m did you see that attitude? Like yeah, I saw Mike order clips whatnot of the way like in the huddle, like Staph and Draymond is trying to talk to him and he walks away, you know, like yeah, so yeah, that's a big factor why they didn't play that well together season. So yeah, he was very very honest about it. Yeah you know what. I think that's what everybody likes about him. Yeah, Okay, you know what, and we sucked
and we got the most out of our team. It's gonna be how hy you're on here and hind the ball? Hey, Jay, Steve Grad, you guys are back. This is done? Hey done, what's up? Done? I just wanted to comment on on Tema Athletics. Yes, sir, you know, growing up here, you know they'd have I mean years and years ago they had a great football team for a few years and then every you know, everyone's from while the baseball team would be good, you
know. But but the renaissance they're having right now, it's like amazing. They're you know, they're they're all They're like a Stanford where they're good at everything. Yeah, they've had a bunch of great coaches. It seems like, you know, we've had so many of them on the show. We talked to Cosgrove as as uh you know, as Monica, you know, say we you know, we talked to Todd hold House, we talked to you know, uh, Peabody. I mean, just all these coaches come
on and they all just seem like great people. And you know, when you have that, you know, it's it's it's it's it's uh contagious. It can be contagious, contagious. And then the nice thing is they want to be here in Tucson, right right. And it's funny to me because when you talk when when I think about little leaguers and Pop Warner football, the coaching makes all the difference because kid kids that are ten years old,
they're all the same, most of them. You know, there's a one percenters, but but it's it's nice to see that you have these this bunch of elite coaches at our community college that are doing these things that are making it so hard on Monacle because you know, if everybody earns to travel, well, holy moly, Yeah, that's got to be a heck of a budget he's got to come up with. Yeah, that's why he asked. I didn't really know that. I thought that maybe some kind of sanction would
pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, there's no money comes in from you know, because like in the NCAA, right, they get their expensive government stuff. So yeah, no, yeah, And it's just a shame that they didn't have football, you know, back from back in the day where you know it could have been like I think football could have been really good too, because it's junior college football, and you had a lot of good, pretty decent kids that were here. They didn't get to play be on
high school. And and I also wanted to shut out the crew at All Sports Tucson dot Com. Go ahead, those guys. They do an amazing job. We got the Little League All Stars tournaments coming up. If anybody's out there and you want to, you want to, you want to find out what your old little league was doing or whatever. They've got the scores from all the brackets, all the I mean, I think they end up with like a dozen people out there watching Little League and reporting on it.
And the Balls brothers don't sleep their vampire. They do the vampire. They mustn't. They must not, because the kids that leave Tucson and go play n IA ball some across the country or whatever, those guys still acknowledge them when they're getting their player of the week in their conference. Two thousand miles away and it's a rolling thing, and it's they just do an amazing job.
Those more, all those guys and and Monico and Pima College. It's just really neat to see that that these guys are everybody's getting their due if if you know where to look for them. Yeah, no, great, great, thanks to appreciate appreciate it. Thank you, Thanks Ton, Thanks, thanks thanks for listen. Thanks I always thanks for listening. We were talking about before he came on, what we're saying the young kid, you remember stuff. Um, we're talking about what we're talking about, closed state
yea yea yeah. So so he's taking hits though, because because it's the coach's responsibility that his team didn't get any better. Well, there's certain things you can't control, right, you can try to control chemistry and all that, but if the team doesn't get along, you just don't get along. And well, again, what he was saying was, we got as much out of our team as totally great as we were going to get. Totally agree. And whether you believe that or not, you know, people,
well you have you have Steph Trace. You should win the NBA championship every year, right, that's not how it works, no, you know. And then what Joel Embiid said right where he talked about you can't just be two of us we got and people are calling him out for saying, wait a minute, you know, yeah, that was that was part of the quote. Thought some like media outlets that they cut it. So yeah, Aly got the force before he said that, he said, I asked me
better. James has to be better. We all have to be better. Then he said that, Well, it's good that you're paying attention because you
know how the media. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get that's how it got played, you know, and it's like you know, he I mean, there's a sometimes there is as much as you're gonna get, you know, if you if you go back to that uh that scene and it was a movie, but that scene in Blue Chips at the end of the at the end of the movie for Nick Nolton, who was the head coach, said his best coaching job was a year before when they went you know,
sixteen and fourteen, you know, when he had won national championships. He said, the best coaching job ever did was last year because we got everything out of that team that we were going to get and sometimes you know, sometimes you know that you've maxed out, you know, you know, like it was a football team last year, they maxed out. I'm fine, there's no other way you could have predicted they were gonna get five wins,
right and five and seven? You know it's not good enough for anybody, but you had to you feel like five wins was as much as they were going to get. Well, that's what Doc Rippers was saying that with Philadelphia, who would have thought they would have gotten this far under their cigar Stantus. I know, I don't know how good they were. I don't know where they were predicted to finish, but they took Boston to Game seven before
here, so I don't know. His job is probably on the n Yeah, I mean, I just I just with um their situation, but I think they could have went farther given the situation they were and in Boston they weren't playing that while honestly the whole series, the whole Boston Boston, yet they weren't playing a will to the whole series. By Game one they led
Sixers win it even though James Joel wasn't playing. And then even in the past series like they took the Hawks and six games where they probably should have swept the Hawks. So the Sixers had a chance to win the series, but they just kind of gave it away in Game six and then you know, Jason Tatum just saw the game away games, haven't based Boston? Yeah,
yeah, Well you gotta know your limitation? Ye? Well, yeah, you know, and and again sometimes you know, I mean sometimes you do max out and then other times you do what you know, what you know the Bucks did? What Arizona basketball did? You know? You know things like that. I mean, you know a lot of teams don't max out. You know, they leave a lot behind and you go, what they all happened there? And I think that's why Montie Williams got fired.
Yeah, because they're just people feel like you had Kevin Durant, you should have done better. Right. Well, now we'll ask m Kent about We talked about this. If they didn't get to the finals or to the win it all? Was it worth it? Was it worth it? Because they didn't have him for forever? Right they brought him in in March or whatever it was. Yeah, he got hurt. Was all giving up the landscape for him? Yeah, I guess it was worth it because Kevin's on a
four year contract. So even if they didn't win it all this year, which they didn't, they so out for more years. Let me asked you, because you follow it more than we do. Yeah, they win. Will they get to the finals in the next three years? Yeah? They definitely should. They have a core already set up in plays with Book and Kevin Durant. They need to add pieces around them too, and they could
definitely get there. I fel like this year they took the Nuggets was six games and then without any like depth really in my opinion, So I was like, next year, Adam or death, you don't get a new coach in there that they really like and then take the next step to the if no conference finals of the finals? Can you save this clip of sentences? How would see what he's doing? Emergency room? How you face down? I don't know. I don't know if I can get there this That franchise
is kind of cursed. Yeah, okay it, well you know again, where are the where are the pieces? Right? How do you get your hands on them? No? No, just you got this max contract with DeAndre Hayton. You know, if you feel you need to get rid of them. Who's gonna take him? Right? And how much is that going to cost you? And now did you need what did me a good roster size? Playing roster size? They played with five six guys, right,
yeah, but everyone else plays eight. Now there's some teams that whittled down right, like like six seven guys, right, So they need they need I think they need a good like starting like ten, like ten, like you know five, and I was like five, that's a good start. Yeah, there's ten's a low. Let's see. I don't Milwaukee. How's a good starting tas? I think Milwaukee does? Um? I mean, Deniver probably does. Dene's a really good bench. Yeah, have never a
really good bench as well. But I think well Bosston, oh yes, Boston has an incredible like depth. They're have really good death as well. So there are a couple of teams that have like a good like guys that's where they are. Yeah, that's true. So it is hard though, especially with the cap situation in Phoenix. I don't know all the just b I know, like you know Deandre's contract, Kevin's you know books, So here's a lot of money, you know, three guys all and then Chris
Paul as well, I figure out what to deal with him. Well, it's funny. The big headline was that book and uh and uh and Kevin h stigned off on this. Of course, you wouldn't you ask them, what's you Since you wouldn't you have to ask him, right being the two stars and saying can we win without him? Ye? Then for they to say, I think he needs to stay or whatever. But there's no question that if Aiden's still there, he's gone. If Aiden's gone, maybe he
stays. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, it makes sense because they couldn't go inside. No, you know, play, I guess I didn't see Monty. You know, he just you know, getting let go. I definitely predict DeAndre and we'll get rated his off season Biday, Nay Monty get'll let go by guess makes sense? And they want to you know, keep want to go to the other. So well we'll see if they you know, get rid of both. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
okay, we got about four minutes left him. We want to give us a quick call, please do five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty. We have Ken Summer's talking here with us, and Ken Summers will talk about the firing of Bonnie Williams and stuff. You know, a lot continue to hear stuff about and we'll try and get John Wilner on sometime this week. Continue here a lot of stuff about the PAC twelve.
What's going on with the PAC twelve and stuff. Did you see Michael he story on on the Lord on the lawyers, Yes, clif or something, go ahead, we gotta yeah, we got to talk about that. I think it was last week's I forgot, but so so now the the lawyer's lawyers are saying that that de Lord did not interact be guilty to the sexual assault. That uh that the girl's lawyer, the victims lawyers said um, and they're pissed. And I think they're they're considering or have uh filed Uh
I don't, I don't really or considering the claim. But they're definitely denying what they're denying. They're denying what what the other lawyers said and what's been out in the media. Right, so basically, somebody he's not telling the truth. But right, I don't know if I want to use the L word, but somebody's not telling the truth because somebody, because you have one side saying that these two guys pleaded guilty to sexual assault. You have the
lawyer de Laura's lawyers saying he did not. You have the other players lawyer saying basically arguing the point, So, what the hell happened? Yeah? And it brings up doubt. It brings up doubt, and and and again. If you're in a situation where nobody is supposed to be able to release be releasing information as to what happened at the jubal court level, could they and I don't know that your friends or your buddies who listen, I think
you can say, but nobody's going to get the record. And I was gonna say, could those records be released if no parties agree, good parties agree? I don't know. Does that make sense? Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Can they be unsealed if everybody agrees that they that they're unseal? The story correct? But yeah, so you'd have to get the victim or the alleged victim now, and the two alleged uh calling perpetrators or whatever to all agree. And I don't know that anybody would ever do that.
I don't know that any lawyer would allow that to happen unless it's gonna make their client correct, and so not all sides can look good coming on truth. Right. That's why it's either the two guys are okay or the victim is okay, and whoever's not okay it is going to say I'm not you know, I'm not agreeing to that, but I don't know if you can't. I don't know what the law is on that. May maybe one
of our guys is listening. Can juvenile court records be unsealed? Because the only way to prove it if they agree, Say, I did see that there's some language about juvenile court um that you don't plead guilty in the In the juvenile court, you're adjudicated as having committed this thing, whether that's you know, it's another word for pleading guilty or not guilty. Right. So I'd love to hear from somebody who's got some experience with that in terms of
what what it means to say somebody was adjudicated versus somebody pleading guilty. And they've probably done your guys, your people have probably been through this before. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, you know, so you know they've experienced some this. Okay, no great, great first hour. We gotta go to the second hour here in about ten seconds. Okay, let's take our break. We do have to go. We will be back and we're gonna take breaking news from Jason, all kinds of stuff going on over the
last several days. And then uh Ken Summers will talk about the firing of Minie Williams of the Suns. We're very pack