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Monday pod, Hour 2: BREAKING NEWS− With no players taken in the NFL draft this year, will that trend end soon? Salpointe girls beach volleyball coach Heather Moore-Martin talks about winning her team winnings its third straight state title; Is it legit to suggest that neither basketball program has direction at this time?

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Breaking down the all the x is and ols. It's Steve Romero and Jakin Summons. This is I Am the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen. Hey, welcome back to win the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Tongs Steve Rivera, He's Jackins else now we have our guy, Noah, we's some breaking news. This is I Am the Ball baking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty

eight. Well, first of all, the thing that makes me the most happy is that the Bruins are eliminated after having one of the most like one of the one of the least humble seasons I've ever seen out of any fans. They were showing off or something. They were no, they were so like I know hockey fans and I know Bruins fans, and like Boston fans. It's like it's like them in the Celtics, like when they're both good, that's all they talk about. So they're gone. Celtics just need to

lose. I don't know if that's gonna happen, but like we call, we can pray, right as long as they don't lose tonight. I need, I need, I need Jade to bed on them. Old don't even talk about it. Now we know who's Steve picked tonight. I don't even see it. It was it's obvious, like you're not you're not taking the sixers. No, I'm not taking this yeah yeah, um so yeah, and beat is officially out for Game one. Uh, that is is not good. Um, this whole playoffs, guys, Um, if you lose

a key player and it's not this is a brain surgery. Uh, it kills the whole mojo of the team. That happened with everybody else that's in the in the in the league. I mean, come on, you can't you can't play. This is the playoffs. Yeah, you need everybody exactly exactly. And it again gets to the Kawhi Leonard thing, right, Yeah you got to play. Yeah yeah, And I don't know the injury. It is what it is, right, But man, it's tough. It's

very tough that they're saying. They're saying Jimmy Bather has a has a swollen ankle quote the size of a baseball, Like he's still gonna play every single game this year. Yeah, that dude, That dude, his life story is unbelievable. And he's he's homeless. He's tough. He's a fighter. I love Jimmy um So. Yankees put Aaron Judge on the injured list with a hip strain, which I don't think he's going to be a repetitive type of thing for him. But I guess that's that's is he and the other

slugger. What's just standing standing on the aisle? No? No, oh, Aaron Judge, he got hurt, but I don't think he went on the il. Didn't you just say what he's on the ir Oh? He is on the me you were preoccupied with. But the Yankee sock are they lasting the league? Right? The last in their division? I think they're last in the division. I don't think so. All I know is the Dodgers have got the Diamondbacks, which hurts me to say. So what does

that mean? Yanks are tied with the Red Sox for the last the last place? Yea for the Red Sox. Look at that in the twenty twenty three these two stuck programs. They're both fifteen and fourteen. So every team in that division as a winning record, which is interesting. Um J. J. Watt is now a minority owner of one of the Premier League's team

from a Premier League teams soccer on England. Yeah, that's that's kind of a video because people don't really understand the extent which you know, like internationally English football, like soccer is a big deal. He's in so much revenue, it's like kills the United States teams. Oh by far. Yeah, because it's followed by Talbot. The fans they're just crazy exactly. You'll find you'll find people. You'll find way more people here that follow that stuff.

Yeah. Then um you will people you know in England that follow like American sports. Yeah, and just rapid crazy crazy fans. Yeah. Um oh yeah, Snoop Dogg is joining Who is this this? Oh I saw this? Um so I was running Nico smarks bits and buy the Ottawa Senators. So that's a NHL team. Okay, guys are making way too much money. Well I was gonna say, because the players are making a lot of money obviously. Well you got players and former players starting to want to buy

you know, franchises and stuff. Yeah. Magic Johnson's been doing it for a while. Yeah, those guys. Yeah, I mean, what what were the what that you had you gonna You're gonna ask you about the and the football team who got two got picked up or whatever. Well, um um Jalen Harris and um got one more guy signed signed undrafted free agent contracts. Yeah he he And you don't need to disparage him. I don't want to either, but he he. I don't know if he lived up to

the hype or whatever, but he was. He came on the scene, just the Harris brothers, you know, Yeah, and they didn't have the years that you think or you think Jalen was Jalen. I think he was such a physical specimen that you kind of expected more more from him. He's your he's your airport. He put on a uniform and you went wow, and you went wow. But um uh you know I I uh, um, he didn't. You know, he didn't. And neither as his brother.

Um, neither as his brother. I'm looking, I'm trying to Jalen Harris signed a contract, Christian Young signed signed with the with the Seahawks, and then Josh Donovan got invited to the Bills a rookie mini Campum, so they got you know, there's three guys there, and Hunter Ecles got invited to the Seahawks mini camp. Okay, so four guys, but four guys.

You know, a lot of discussion. You know, it's been a while, you know, Arizone hasn't been had any guys drafted and stuff like that, but sort of a you know, there's guys in the pipeline. There's you see guys on the team now, starting with um, the offensive lineman, um, you know, who's projected to be a first round draft and the guy that walked into the bresh conference the other day and looking like, yeah, uh justin flow but uh, you know so but you know,

look at that. That's certainly one of the things that uh Arizona is selling now because they've got so many former NFL coaches on their stat and that's why they're getting That's I think that's one of the reasons they're getting guys, is that they're saying, Okay, you're gonna come and you're gonna be coached by guys who know how to do this in the NFL. We're gonna help

you get there. But those guys are all young, right, t Mac and you know Jane Delora, Sure, what's the lineman's name who's really good? Morgan? Uh, what's the last of his first day? Come on, man, I know you're talking about oh god, um, but you know those guys, uh uh, there's there's one thing Dan, you're getting coached up to be the one thing about like Lut's time, and I referred to this more than most, that he had guys that the new fundamentals knew

how to play basketball and the transition to the NBA. Whether they were capable or not, they knew what they were getting because they were prepared. They were getting prepared. They were prepared for the next level. If they were not good enough, well they weren't good enough, but they made the transition

because that's what they were taught. Again, and you get a sense that that's a lot of what Fish trying to do, not only with just what they're doing on the field and trying to coach him, but the way he brings in all his you know, his old coaching buddies to come and talk to the players and stuff. You gotta you get your sense that they're really trying to get the players a feel for the NFL while they're here. That's to me, it's been the most impressive thing that the Wildcat Wednesdays or that

speech. And then you bring the guys in, you can't buy that stuff, right, You just can't. Yeah, and what I don't know what they're being told, but you can't. You can only imagine that you have these experts coming in and you know, teaching you what to expect or or you know, telling you what to expect the rext level and what type of person you need to be as well. Exactly exactly, so you had some stuff from Georgia, Georgia. Is that what you're at? Alabama? Uh?

Uh? An athletic department officially at Alabama. He's he's the Deputy Deputy Director of Athletics for Compliance and Support Services. The guy by the name of Matthew Travis self was arrested Sunday morning for domestic violence. So here's your compliance guy trying to tell everybody how to follow the rules and then he gets arrested

for stuff. So yeah, they're having a rough go at Alabama. And I'm I'm not saying I feel sorry for them, but I just like, man, the hits just keep on coming for those guys, They just keep on coming. A couple of the things, um, the uh, the Kentucky Derby Uh. Most positions were drawn today. Todd Pletcher has has favorite uh forte coming out of the box. So, um, you know the

u of a guy. He's got three horses, two of whom they think can win it and the third one maybe he's undefeated, but uh nonetheless so just uh you know he's got three horses in this thing. You had if he went like one, two, three, would that be that could be possible? He the fourteen is coming out of the fifteen hole? Who which should be? Okay, um, Baffer doesn't have anything, obviously not allowed to. He got ripped. He had to let him divest himself, right,

But he'll be back for the Belmont. They'll be they'll return to the Bellman. That's when he gets back. That's when he gets the courses back because only only the Derby there is disallowed him. Okay, yeah, you know he's he's fought it. They didn't let him, so he's gonna you know, other people will be handing those horses. Yeah. So that's Saturday. Fote is the three to one. Um, his his other tappet price is five to one, and he's got them. He's in the five hole.

So um, we'll see, man, it's a full Any horses will get to Richard ang to come on this week before Steve heads out and goes somewhere to bet these races on Friday. So we'll get Rich on to to give us some insight into this and full day, you know, two full days of racing big rate. You know, the Kentucky Oaks is on is on Friday, so a lot of cool stuff. And you know that's always on a thing on NBC Sports Channel. Uh, you can catch all the races and bet him if you want, so it should be fun. Okay,

Um, I think I had a couple of other things. Um, Bryce Harper comes back from Tommy john surgery in less than six months and we'll be in the in the lineup set. Uh. A lot of fantasy people rejoicing at that if you you know, drafted him late to understanding that you weren't going to get him, thinking you weren't gonna get him till June or July. And now here it is, you know, the first of May, and he's gonna be playing just one hundred and sixty days since he got

Tommy Johnson. Kind of crazy that that he's already gonna be playing. Yeah, I mean, you know guys like that, they're they're a different breed. They do things different from what from what we do, sure, because they you know, they're built different, They're they're built differently, not only physically, but but mentally. Good. Good for Bryce Harper. Never been a big fan of his, but as he's gone, as he's as he's gone on, I'm kind of rooting for him a little more, um,

because he's just a really damn good player. He seems obnoxious to me, but he doesn't. He doesn't say a lot. Friend of mine did his bi autobiography and he really and in Phoenix, you playing in Phoenix in Vegas, um, Rob Meach Meach he was on the Daily News before Dweller went to the News and uh, he had a hard time with the family. It was just really it was almost unauthorized because they didn't want to talk to him. All right, Oh, here we go. It's something brand new.

The NC Double A men's tennis bracket has been announced and Arizona will be hosting. They're the fourth number, number fourteen national seed, so they're gonna host the first two rounds next weekend. They've got they played Boise State in the first round and then they've got Florida and Oklahoma State on the other side. So if they win, they'll play the winner of Florida Oklahoma State. That might help them because I talk to coach what's his name, tell me

his name, one of the great guys. I really like talking to him. Down to earth and very very intellectually. Um just knows the pot he's gotten players, right, they love playing for him. That the facilities might be upgraded because of the right. Right, you gotta show your show your wearers, right, Yeah, then maybe you get them improvements that might help the progone as Zvertz goes in as the number forty one ranked player in the

country. Um goostaf Strom has been is on a nine match winning streak of reading this off of off of pressures. No, this is uh uh easy desert swarm um, and so you know there's uh it should be fun. So but first time they've ever hosted's when's this this weekend? This will be this weekend a Friday and Saturday. Now, school's almost over, kid, when you're done next weekend, next Monday, next Monday. You can't wait to get home, right, So your dog, that's it. That's it,

just the dog. The dog. So we'll keep you posted on that. But that's uh, that's coming up this weekend. So um it should be fine man, good, good for good for Clancy Shields to not only get in, but now you know, to be able to host the first come and try to avoid what happened last year. Right. Yeah, when they real they went on the road and got it, they were very good, yanked out of there pretty quickly. All right, we're gonna have Heather

more Martin. Uh, women's uh keep saying, you know, girls, a beach volleyball coach at South Point coming off a three straight now state championships. So more seth point stuff for all those hopefully sell point listeners that we've got right now. So we'll talk to her about getting getting under the state championship in beach volleyball. So stick around for Heather more Martin right after the

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I'm doing really good today. Thanks a lot. You Did you celebrate this weekend? I mean, come on, three straight? Who does that? Well, you know, I don't know. I feel pretty blessed. And it's just it's been a great year for beach volleyball for sure. Man, you at some point a lot of things going on. Yeah, well, I mean how do you how do you approach each year? I mean, you know, you've won a state championship a couple times oversea, you go into a season, how do you how do you approach that? Keep them

hungry those kinds of things. Well, you know, obviously, the kids that are really into beach volleyball, they kind of push that forward. I mean, without their love of the game, obviously, it would just be

need being a cheerleader. So obviously I have some great buy in from my student athletes, and they go and play volleyball beyond what we do at practice, and that really the key is that you know, you can practice all you want, but if you don't go play on the beach in California, you don't go up to Phoenix and playing a trump up there, You're just not going to gain the confidence that you need to be successful as you can be. You're being a little modest too. I think through the years of

the one thing I've noticed is coaching matters. So what do you think your secret sauces and getting them motivated? Secret sid um? Well, you know, I'm a learner. I love to learn about coaching, and beach volleyball is such a new sport in terms of how to coach it. There's a lot of you know, there's beach volleyball, but you know, team beach volleyball is so different. I mean, I have ten separate teams, five

of which compete in a duel. But I have you know, there's ten teams at practice, and so they each have their own little personality and the way they go about practice and competing, and so it's been really so oh, I don't know, it's just been so I've been so grateful to coach beach volleyball because it is so new and how you train it how to be kind of pioneered in a way, and it's been really fun to kind of come up with a formula that works. Well. Let's talk a little bit

about that. Because you from a high school level, you were the one or among those who did pioneer this in Tucson. You know, now you've got a college program at Arizona UM. What what did it take to you know, get the ball rolling on this and get it going to where not only have you been able to establish this as a as a sport in town, but you guys are really good at it too. Well. You know, the beginning of going part was easy because South Boyne is so game,

you know, their game for new things and new um new sports. And so when I got hired there as the indoor girls and boys volleyball coach, I said to them when my interview process, I said, hey, I want to start ball at Beach Volleyball, which had already started up in Phoenix. They had already had it for about seven years. And I said, I really want to start beach volleyball and Tchutson. And when they hired me, they that was part of the you know, their their agreement was that

they would do that. So, you know, I think I coached into it for two years and then on the third year we started beach volleyball and we just put into the AIA and said, hey, we want a schedule, and it was kind of easy as that. Luckily, the Tuton the Racket Club is down the street, and so we practice and compete at the

racquet club. Would love to have courts at school, but I think their first priority right now is um, you know, building the new building back that you know, was burnt down this summer, and a parking garage is kind of on their radar. So I'm hoping with the volleyball success that we've had that maybe they'll think about building a beach volleyball facility. But we are happy to be at the Tucson Racket Club, you know, at the court's

at the racquet club. It also doesn't hurt to have pretty talented young women. I know Matt Bach's daughters A you're do you think right for you? No, she's actually a junior this year, though I get to have her back next year. And what even you know bonus is that her sister Caroline, or we call her Ki plays on the team as well, So we have two mule box Um you know, competing for the Lancers, which is amazing. I mean, Megan Um will go down in history as one of

the finest competitors I've ever coached. It's funny you say that, because all I've heard throughout the years, I've covered a lot of dudes on that basketball program, and one of the name that comes up most often in terms of being a dogged just a dogged fighter was Matt. Oh. Yeah, that Matt is he and he's given that gift to his daughter, Meghan. I

mean, Keki is a competitor also, but she's different. She's a very different person than Megan, and Meghan is just she competes like she she doesn't win, you know it, and you're and she's figuring out a way next time to be ill. Pretty cool. Yeah, No, So what do you think Why do you think beach volleyball has so quickly become a very popular sport, not only at you know, the high school level, but the college level. I think that because it's super fun. It is really fun.

It's just practice is fun, Competing is fun. There's not m It's not the kind of grind the club and indoor can be sometimes. You know, indoor volleyball obviously great and fun as well, but each you know, you're out on the sand, but you're outside. I mean, our favorite thing to say is, you know, you don't see that indoor as a hawk flies by, or we're looking at the beautiful Katalina mountains, or you know, we're having snow at practice like we did this year, so you

know, it's just a fun environment. And I really think the autonomy of beach volleyball as well. I mean, I'm involved with them, but I'm not allowed to coach during play, so the girls have to learn how to figure out on their own. So there's a ton of autonomy in this game. And I think they like that part as well. Yeah. No, who wouldn't want that as a player, right, That's fantastic. I was going to mention earlier for some point such great success. You know, Kelly

Pearce has wants some titles. Now you there's a wolf Gang of course, just the football program doing very well. What's going on there? You know, someone just said that to me yesterday, and I think it's two things. I think the academics at South Point are rigorous, so you are really engaged and when you come to practice, you tend to be pretty engaged. And I don't have to spend a lot of time getting you to dial in. You're just you're already there, And that I think is one component.

I think the parents support is also a huge component to their success. And then finally, you know, just the administration support of athletics. That that's what you know, the South Point knows that they're about athletics, and they're not you know, they're not afraid to admit it and get behind it. Well, is there is there any kind of um? I mean, I guess there's been some discussion of getting the boys did not start playing beach volleyball?

Yes, you know, I think that is on the docket. Next, you know, flag football is going to be They started that for girls and so that'll be the next women's sport. So then, um, I would I have heard is that they have already started a pilot program for boys high school volleyball up in Phoenix, So, um, I think that is next. I think it's right around the corner. Well, very cool. When you say around the corner, what do you think that might be?

Well, I'm hoping in the next two years. I mean, honestly would love to see southwoyed M started at the pilot program next year and maybe do a modified schedule sort of like how we did with girls volleyball when we first started. We didn't play in the complete schedule, so we didn't qualify for state at that time. We just played in a minimum amount of matches. And I think that would be the best way to start boys Beaches, just

to get a schedule and then start building on that. Well, so, so tell us how many how many girls programs are there now in the city and how much is that spreading? I mean, is it is it being taken on quite a bit? Or you know what? How is this going to evolve as we go along? Well, I think the evolution is going to have to come from TUSD because they're the one one school district that hasn't

picked it up. AMPI has it, so that means CDEO AMPI, Ironwood Ridge UM, Siennaga has it. Morana has it, so that's Morana, that's Mountain View UM. And I've I've heard Katalina Foothills is right there and they're ready to start a program and TUSD. You know, what I've heard from them before was well, we can't build a facility at all the schools and that's not even required Castile, where we play the state tournament. They

have one facility for the entire district. So I believe there's six high schools that practice out of this one facility. It has six courts. It's beautiful, it's big and um really nice. So it's gonna take you know, um t USD say, okay, hey, we're willing to put one court, you know, one um uh, the only somewhere and having multiple courts and let every let multiple schools practice there. So how many teams are actually in the entire state? Oh gosh, that's a good question. I am

right, as the number forty eight seemed to not I wouldn't. I think that's around somewhere because there's Division one and Division two, so I think that's about what there is. And it's kind of leveled off a little bit. Beach volleyball, you know, it's kind of you know, it was huge and now it's kind of like you know, settling in so um it's still growing, but not as rapidly as it did it first. So along those

lines there are a majority of obviously menu them come from Phoenix. How are you able to infiltrate them given that they've been playing longer, a lot longer than feating twos on people? Practice practice, you know, it's really it is. I think it's training. I think it's how we train, and um, it's playing the game, and you know, how we go about our practice. I think that we're able to kind of close the gap because, like I said, I have girls that are committed to do getting better

at volleyball, and they go and they play. So I'm wondering just and Jay kind of alluded to this question. So you win the first one, it's it's it's tough to get there, it's even tougher to stay there. You've been able to do that, Now do you how do you move forward with you know, maybe the possibility of four and you have some players coming back. So is there pressure to do the four? Um? You know, I don't feel the pressure because I really didn't even feel the pressure for

the third. I was just happy that we were in a position to even achieve that, So I you know, you know, my husband was given me a hard time on our bus ride home it is because I made a new lineup on the bus ride home after the Sea tournament, and I was like, oh, well this thing that looked too bad. I mean, I have a lot of seniors this year, so it was a little bit like, wow, what are we gonna be doing next year? But I

do I do see a good group coming back. Um, it's just going to be a matter of how much they commit to beach volleyball over the summer, you know, because it's not it can't be just our school season. It's not enough. Yeah, right, Okay, coach, we appreciate your time. Congrats again three times very much. Hey, thank you so much for the phone call. And um, I appreciate you, you know,

just recognizing women's athletics and honoring that. Well, first of all, it's May first, okay, so let me say it before I text you. Oh so we'll we'll we'll set up a time for next May first, so you'll back on the show for number four. We'll just do that now. I love that idea. It Okay, thanks, appreciate you. Okay, thank you. Okay, he went not you know you w three went not four? Were there? You're funny? No? I mean, you know,

you keep winning, you keep winning. But you know, the bigger thing to me, it's not not just that they're winning state championships, but they they're getting a great sport going, you know. I mean there's sometimes sports come along and you say, well, what's that. You know, I get whatever your university was trying to do, but they triathlon. It's not a spectator sport really, you know, it's kind of like an obscure sport. But you know, beach volleyball is something that you know we've played,

right, I mean, I've sure played volleyball in the sand. It's I can't do it now, I can't do it anymore, but you know I did. And those are the sports that I think catch people's eyes right right right. And let me say this because she she was spotty, very humble. Three times okay once first, okay, two, okay, three times. There's there's a secret to it. I'm not a secret to it. But that doesn't happen by accident, it doesn't. You know, you

gotta have something there to make sure know. Kelly does it too there and Wolf Kang has done him many times. You see, you don't stumble.

Here's here's the ball, go play. No, you you get these girls motivated, right exactly, and you figure out yeah, I mean, and you keep getting them motivated right over and over and over again and and and and winning doesn't become uh routine, routine, yeah, you know, it becomes like every every time they win it it's a big deal, right, and that and that's what you have to do, and that's not easy to do. Yeah. I was into Sunnyside wrestling, right, yeah, the

same thing. Yeah, no exactly, but yet they keep winning, keep winning, keep winning, keep winning right right, and it's and it's special to them. And then you start winning, you say, how can we give how can we not win or want to win because we don't want to

disappoint the people before us. And I think in this, in this particular case with this sport, is that you can also see that, you know, I think I think Heather would like to see other schools, you know, get programs going, be more competitive, the whole area more competitive. And now you get better because of it, you know, without question?

Yeah, question, A lot a lot of things, a lot of things happening with a sport like that to be able to you know, to um, you know, improve what they're trying to do but also get more opportunities for other girls to play this sport. Okay, let's go early and then we can get more calls in this. On the other side, I want maybe the colors to think about this. Uh did did Tommy? Is Lloyd's story? Uh? Make you more at ease with what's going on? Are

you going to trust the process? I know he doesn't use that phrase, but you kind of have to write or is He just says it's like you tell, you know, kids, you know behave relax and they don't behavior relax. You could say it, but you know that's not going to happen. Right now, you still kind of freaked out. What's gonna happen? Okay? Is that a good bay? Sounds good to me? Absolutely? All right, We'll be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan,

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about fifteen minutes if you want to give us a quick call. Did if you follow the Tommy Lloyd's situation and read the Daily Star Bruce's story on Tommy, did you feel more at ease? Got got a text from while I didn't feel, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was at easy with Tommy already. What I was where I was not at ease with was the freaking fans. Yeah. Yeah, so they need to relax. But so Doug, our guy from Seattle text me and says lost faith in both Tommy and

Idea. They don't seem to have a strong direction of what they want to do. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Doug, you heard that. You can call us if that was that? Uh yeah, Uh, the's Doug, Doug. That's really dumb. That's really dumb. You know, both of these teams that keep going to NC Double A tournament, they're winning a million games, and you're saying they have no direction and have no idea what you're doing. That's the dumbest thing I've heard said about it

Arizona basketball in a really long time. Sorry, Tommy, Tommy. It sounds like an owner giving a vote of confidence to the coach. Doug, You're I think you're way way off based on that dog. You can call us. Yeah, you can feel free to call Doug. We'll argue this out because I think you're one hundred percent wrong on this. You don't have to buy j I think you're a hundred percent wrong in this because Okay, so they haven't neither one of them's won a national championship in the last three

years, so therefore their direction list and don't know what they're doing. That it's kind of ridiculous. Five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty. You can give us a quick call. Anybody who wants to chime in. It's a good topic of I think they're gonna be fine. I think they're gonna be fine. Every school's going through issues in UCLA the same way. They've lost a lot of their staff, I mean staff, their roster. They'll have to replenish, and every school has to do it.

So yeah, no, exactly, exactly it. I don't know it. I just can't believe that our fans, that the fans are so and titles not even the right word, just oblivious, that's true what these two programs are doing. You know, did yeah? Did they flame did? Did they flame out? In? Uh? Did? Did? Uh? Uh? You know Arizona basketball flame out against Princeton? Absolutely absolutely. But I just don't, you know, I just don't know how you can just

sit there and say that they're directionless. What is that what he said? Was that the word? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah him. No, let's take the call higher on the air and eye on the ball, Nico, walk me off the ledge, Nico. I'm losing my mind with with the Arizona fans. Man, this has got too much time on their hands. Man. Probably that's one of the problems. I agree, you

got to if you're stretching that much about you of aman? Yeah, yeah, is there anything out there that keeps you that busy with the topic, you know, whatever it is like, you know you're concerned about it, but you know over concerned. Man, if I don't get laid in like a week half, remember where you're at, Remember where you're on the air. Come on. But I heard you guys talking about Jalen Harrison. Okay, go a man. I bought into the hype you did. Yeah,

and that will say this. I think he sticks man at the next level. He always played his as uh. I'm sorry about that. No, that's funny. I agree with you. I think he played like crazy. He just didn't yeah, exactly. He didn't have the impact that you would expect from him. Everyone thought he'd be an old man, but he and he had bad coaching. Well, and that's right. I mean what I

say he had. He had five five different defensive coordinators, five different linebacker coaches in his time at Arizona. So of course something like that has an impact. But still a great player, a great player, can you know, deal with that and still be a great player. I get what you're saying, but I'm not saying it's going to be a starter, but I think it'll be a special teams guy. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see,

all right, man, thank you, thank you, Nico. See if Doug gives us a call them me just kind of reclarified what you had heard. Lost faith in both Tommy and Adia. They don't seem to have a strong direction of what they want to do. Wow, Okay, look, everybody's the title of their opinion, and that's fine. Everybody has their opinion, but but it's wrong. We're trying to say, Well, I

think I think the opinion is incorrect. I think that I think they both have a pretty good idea of what they're trying to do, you know. I mean it's like what they're trying to win games and what's the Yeah, I think that I think that the women's side, they just have to kind

of recalibrate what what the priorities are. Right. Uh, she's getting talent, She's getting talent, she's just having a hard time figuring how that talent works together right together because since the uh, since the well, when she got to the championship game, you had one star and the rest of them filled in, right and and in and in whether somebody thinks this is a sexist remark, right in women's college basketball, you can get away with that.

Yeah, And and she didn't, and she did. Aery McDonald's was so extraordinarily good that she could single hand to do what they did and what that moment did get into the title game has created a monster maybe unrealistic, right, not maybe unrealistic because it's hard to return to that stage. It just is on a situation. And now you know Arizona is at a point in this program where they well, first of all, there are no no more Aery McDonald's right in in in the in the in the in the locker

room at Arizona. So you've got to put a bunch of different players together, and he has. You've done a pretty good job. They've been pretty good. Have they been great enough to get to another Final four? No, they haven't. But to say that they're kind of direction lists and don't

know what they're what they want, that seems silly. Let's also say that if I could that the last three years have been it's not that big of a social social of a m um sample size, sample size, because Tommy has been your two years right, come on, he's won a lot of games. The resume looks pretty good. Look a couple of early round well last she was early around. They got the sweet sixteen up and Houston. No excuses, right, I mean, come on, if they were gonna

beat Houston, they had to play very well. Yeah. And again, if Tommy Lloyd looks direction list is it because you don't know who who who's coming in to play for him? I mean, what is that? Yeah? There we go on the air and on the ball. How's it going today, Ryan? We're doing okay? Good? Well, you don't sound like you're doing okay. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad at I'm mad at the Arizona fan. Okay, how how can you be mad with ignorance? I wish people weren't ignorant. I think he's frustrat I think we'll

just frustrated kind of like I was. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I look at this way. People have to understand this is a new basketball reality, yes exactly, and whether and whether we like it or not, just the way it is. And people have can't live five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago, exactly. Got to live in the now. Exactly, and and and these people who are guys from Seattle or whatever, you know that they don't live that way. They just live

on. Oh my god, we won a championship with the greatest program ever. You know, it doesn't work that way anymore, right, right? How old are you? How old are you brain? If you don't mind, seventy four? Seventy four? Okay, well, okay, so you were fifty pretty much fifty maybe maybe forty something forty nine when they won the title in ninety ninety seven. Right, yeah, that's a that's a hell. That's a third of your life. I know. You know, hey, hey, in my lifetime, I'm happy with one. It would be

nice if we had a rose. I don't think we're ever going to have one. Well, we're going to put it, yeah, no, put it with the new system, put it in a new perspective that I mean, there you go. Your dad waited a lifetime to get there, right, and it never came right. I mean, we had our chances and unfortunately didn't work out. You know, But I just you know, I just think if people also look at him, well, he's not recruiting well,

and people still have to realize that Sean Miller. Thing wasn't settled till last year, so all of that still hung over the Arizona program, whether they were going to be punished or not. Every recruiter used that against us. Yeah, well well there was that. But Brott Bryan even in spite of that, okay, even in spite of that, you know, sixty one wins in two seasons, the Sweet sixteen and branded the Sweet that they should have done more with that, They should have done more than they did

last year. But for people to be saying that this program is direction list and Tommy Lloyd doesn't really know what he wants when he's been able to do that is just crazy talk. Well, hey wait till next year. We lose about six more players, right, and then these people are gonna have

these people are gonna die at heart attack and everything. No, it'll be crazy, yeah, and that's it's gonna be year to year ups and downs, and you know, if they have another early exit, then you kind of started saying, hmm okay, but you know, let's get there first. You know, one thing too, if people realize the older coaches, who are the establishment coaches that we've known forever and ever they're all getting out of the business because they can't handle this. Well, not that they can't,

it's not that they can't handle they choose not to. They don't want they don't want to handle it, which is smart. It's not worth it. Yeah, it's not worth it, you know. And let's see how long these younger coaches last. Yeah, no, are they got the last ten years? Are you in the last fifteen years? Or you're not going to last thirty or forty? And we'll see how the administration handles them too, because if you don't win, you're you're evaluated on wins, right.

Uh, this is a win, win or go home type of thing from the administration. So good, good call, good call. Yeah, thank you, We'll see you later. Thanks Ryan. There was a breaking news that we didn't have before. I think maybe just happened. Lauren ware now headed to Texas A and m wow, okay, good for her. Yeah,

wepe it goes well for her. You know, I'm not I'm not sure I understand that transfer unless you know, again it's been made clear that the girls coming in or you know that she's not gonna be able to be

you know, play ahead of them. But and and a lot of that, you know, the continuing saga up and up in Colorado, you know, with with Dean Sandees and and and what's going on up there, and we can't we can't really evaluate what he's done until September because okay, and with the old you know, with you whatever, you know, I think they're they're gonna be extraordinarily good. By that, I mean, you know, for a one in eleven team, you know that they're gonna be I

think they're gonna be really good. You know, maybe a six or seven win team, or they're gonna win one or two games again because you know, on the one hand, with all the drama and the you know, who knows what that locker room is gonna be like, right, I mean, I don't know if you read the article, I think it was an SI. It's a very short article that basically there was this there was this issue with the fact that that Dion Sanders was not letting guys who were transferring

get their game or their practice film in game film. And so they've changed that. They've changed that. But in doing that, you know, they talked to some players, and players a couple of players said that basically, the players who were hanging over from last year. He doesn't talk to him, he doesn't want him there, He doesn't talk to him at all. This guy said, I would walk by him in the hallway and he wouldn't

even look at me. That that he doesn't want that, And that's what they're saying, And more than one player said that, that's saying, that said that he just doesn't want any of the players from last year. That. So what's gonna happen is they say there's still twelve scholarship players from last year who are left, so maybe he's talking to them. So one thing,

one or two things gonna happen. That the locker room is a mess because because they you know, how can you how can you be together when there's just all this sure crap going on them and us and all that kind of said. Or he's weeded out everybody, and everybody everybody else that's there is all together, and they're gonna and they're gonna, you know, back each other up and they're gonna be really good. Well here's the issue. And I don't know what the story you were talking about, but I did

read that about the film and things like that. If I've been impressed with what he's done, at least what he says he's done right but once and he's been very impressed with that way. But if you're gonna walk the walk, you don't be a jerk about it. I mean, how can you not talk to the kids that are on your team, right? I mean, if you're gonna be upfront and this is what we need to do to be uh personable or well, he doesn't. But that's the point, the

point of what the guy was saying. He doesn't want them their last year's players are there, Yeah, and he's doing everything he can to get all of them out of there, not just not just some of them, all of them. Like I said before, you and I have both have been in other jobs. Luckily I haven't been in many, Budge, but you had to go to corporate world a couple of times. It's not a pretty world. And if they don't want you there, they make life a little

difficult. They do sixty plus players, and then they want and then the places that you've been to and I won't say, who are you? You said it before it becomes toxic or they are toxic, and then they wonder how come we can't do better, well, be a better human being for God's sake, exactly, honestly, just pretty simple, Steve, exactly. I mean you know, and that that's the thing. So I don't think there's gonna be an in between. Either it's gonna be a great right or

right. Everybody is on the same page and they're gonna be they're gonna improve a lot. And if they don't do well, guess what we're gonna hear better stories. Well we'll hear well, we'll see how Dion Sanders takes takes it if it's not going well, you know, if if if, if they're crappy next year and he feels like he's got a bunch of crappy guys, is he going to do this again next year? Right? Yeah?

What Broughton guys? Now, the two now they suck so I want them out of here too, and let's roll this thing over again, right right, we'll see what happens. Right, good show. It wasn't by very quick, it did go by. Thanks Heather more Martin and good luck with your women's for your beach volleyball efforts, and Dennis Benet that was fun. Got to get a little insight as to what that what that thing looked like. It's pretty excited. Sure, sure with the once in a lifetime player.

Yeah, I mean yeah, there hasn't been one like that year before, you know, only three first round draft picks out of Tucsons. So very cool. So all right, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll take some more calls five to two zero four and six seventy four forty follow us on the podcast, and uh, Facebook and Facebook. Let's see tomorrow

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