Breaking down all the exes at OHS. It's Steve Lavera and Jakin Salvez. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back to win the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, he's Jay. Now we have Henry with breaking news. This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. So Arizona got a bunch of new football commitments this weekend. They got offensive lineman Javon gu sion tohe and
los Cp Tupo. They got the cornerbacks nice nice effort on that. I'm gonna say, Alan gant To, John Hinton, Giohnny Edwards and Suede Griffin. And they also got defensive lineman Caleb Jones. So entering the weekend there were the classes are ranked sixty third nationally and fifteenth out of sixteenth for the Big twelve schools. It's now forty fourth nationally and seventh in the Big tent. All right, Big twelve, Big twelve above again. You know,
yeah, Well, the thing is how good they're going to be. We won't know. In fact, you can't grant a class until three four years down down the road because half of them. But here's the thing, and it's one of those things where you know, fans and people who followed this were saying, well, Arizona's not getting any guys there. You know, they've only got one guy in the you know, committed and so just the relaxed they're doing their you know, if they're doing their work, it takes
some time. So but you know, but I want to know now. But you know, this world is like I don't know, you don't like anything else. Once again, you know, when you see a guy's committee, you say, Okay, who else was recruiting that guy? Yeah, and you know you're seeing them. You know they're they're going up against them some decent programs to get guys right, Unlike so many times when you were talking about it and that was so bad, Steve, why do you bring
them up again? Don't talk about it anymore. So it's like you said, hey, remember that time I kicked you in the nerd. Let's talk about that. Let's not okay, we're a cup things times. Uh. De Laney Snell has qualified a second event in the Olympics, which is the ten m platform yep, ten minute platforms. She's I forgot that she had competed in that one last time too. Yeah, but I'll tell you what.
Let's say let's let's say it is Delaney Channell getting to Carrie strug territory when it comes to you know, the Olympics, right, I mean, Carrie Struggle only went the one time, but you know she was such a big deal. What you know what she accomplished there. But Delaney Chanelle, you know, a Tucson kid who's uh, you know, two time Olympian
twice in two events. You know, you can start arguing that she might be the greatest Olympian to come out of come out of Tucson, especially if she hits if she gets in, you know, another medal or two in this in this Olympics. She you know, she won a silver last time. Sure, sure, no, that's sounds that's good and obviously u of a she was one of the signature athletes to come through in the last ten
years, right right, So good for her, good for her. Six protesters are facing charges after storming the toll out the PGA Tour Travelers Championship yesterday. And they should and they should you play silly games, you get price. It was just dumb but what are you gonna do? Uh? It was funny because there's a video of them dragging them off the thing, and like one of them is going by and like he's all about the land and the climate, that's what they're protesting. And as he goes by, he
kicks over a big pot full of flowers. I'm like, you just killed those flowers. What are you doing? What are you doing? Be kind? What do those flowers do to you? Right? Nothing? Anyway? Sorry about that. I thought that was funny. Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals is tonight at five pm. The Oilers are looking to a race three nothing deficit, so you want juice. I couldn't watch this. I don't watch hockey. I don't Game seven of a Stanley Cup. Man,
there's nothing like it, Steve, There's nothing like it. Not not a Game seven of a World Series, not a Game seven of an NBA final, Game seven of a Stanley Cup. Is you're you're watching right? You're talking like, are you gonna be like glued to it? Like it could be history. There hasn't been a three to zero comeback in like forty two. Nineteen forty two is what I saw that? Uh? I mean look, did the championship of the College World Series is also on, so I'll
probably be flipping channels. But I'm I. I was just rooting for this, right. I was really disappointed how quickly the NBA Playoffs were over, and what a bad series it was. I was rooting for the I was rooting for the Oilers every game after they went down three zip. This is fun. I don't care who wins. No dog in the no dog in the uh in the in the in the fight fight. But I'm not even gonna put any money on it. But I think I'll be watching. I
know we've been together too long. I've starting to finish your sentences. I know I don't want a divorce. I know. I know. You know we're just going out, Steve. We're not good, Yeah, we're just I don't want to be a statistic. Okay, we've got the College World Series Game three between Tennessee and Texas. Yeah, what was the screw yesterday? Because I watched it and then I didn't watch it. I thought it was like Tennessee one, so both one sided? Yeah, yeah, it
was relatively one sided. Okay, I know that I first game was nine to five. Yeah, I had that on and it was it was two to one. It was a tight game to one, and I think Tennessee hit a two run homer in the eighth Inny. Yeah, and that's what they do. They lead the league or lead the station. Runs should be good. Edwin Diaz was suspended ten games. Are sticky stuff on his hands
last night, and he has the option to appeal. He is the eighth pitcher to face the suspension since the sticky stuff banned a couple of years. They did they say an idea of what it was or what or he's he was pissed, so he's claiming that he didn't do anything wrong whatever. I think I saw something that he like picked up the dirt before he came in to pitch, which is a legal or something. I don't know. Out the sticky stuff was dirt. I don't think it was actual sticky stuff,
but the his hands were sticky. Yeah. You can't do that, are you? Is this one the the guy who got called up to the majors? Did you see this one? I'm thinking of Blue Jays guy. Oh yeah, did you have that? I don't know his name or Elvis Martinez name. Guy gets called up to the Major. Steve first time gonna make his debut, plays two games, suspended for eighty games for peds. I'm like, what are you doing now? Do he really will? Yeah?
Well that's it. He probably was doing those to get himself up there. But dude, you're busted. You're out here. God see you. And you know a guy like that, he'll never be back up. Nobody's gonna take nobody's gonna take the time. Or Elvis Martinez. That's why I'm shutting my elvis frompression then. But flat you don't even know who Elvis is? Probably do you do? You tell me? You do? Ya? Okay?
Yeah, my share, Okay. Scottie Barnes signed a five year, two hundred and seventy million dollar contract extension with the Raptors, which compared to a couple of years ago the NBA. Scotty who Scotty barn That'll tell you, Steve, that'll tell you. That'll tell you. That's all I got. That's it, Okay, I got one. This goes back for the old guys, right, who'll remember this guy? Steve Powers played on He was He was the MVP of the seventy six College World Series. Big dude,
threw hard, hit the hell out of the ball. He was one of those guys who with d h when he didn't pitch. Key a key guy on those both the seventy five and seventy six teams. Died of a heart attack on Sunday. He was seventy years old, you know, not not very old, but he was that that those two teams seventy four, seventy five, seventy six ts. It was a seventy five team that went
for like fifty eight and six or something like that. Ron Hassey, Dave Stegman, what did all those teams when these they lost, they lost, They lost in the regional in seventy five, but then they won it in seventy six, or maybe it was seventy four that they lost in the regional, but they wanted in seventy six coming out of the loser's bracket. But he was he he was He was Sho Hee o Tani by that, I mean dude with that. He batted when he didn't pitch, and he threw
gas. And how good of a hitter was he? He was a really good hitter. Well he was the MVP of the world. Did he play beyond I don't know. Uh. Oh, it says he was later drafted in Nathan by the Pittsburgh Pirates. I guess he was drafted. Doesn't sound like he but he's still number He's still eleventh in career wins as a pitcher, won twenty seven games as era was two fourteen, So he's still number seven. Uh. He had three sixty four in the College World Series.
Uh, it's when he was MVP. Okay, anything else, I think I got got a good guest for tomorrow. I'll let you know what did I have? There was one more thing that I wanted to bring up, but I can't remember what it was. I forget, But that's why that's where I am. Okay, I missed this. That guy's name? What did you forget? But again, looking forward to the to this game tonight, I don't I don't know that. I'll sit there and watch the whole thing. Got I'm saying I'm not going to bet on it, but you
never know. By the time you get hold it starts at five o'clock. Did you include that Illinois kid that went to uh the basketball player? You know, there's always the guys here rightly kind of defending you. A. Yeah. I saw these guys fighting over that Arizona fan trying to tell Illinois fan that they suck Illinois fans, saying we kicked your ass in two thousand
and five. You know that kind of stuff. It's it's kind of fun to watch all that Stuff's Riley's name is Will Riley, the number ten overall recruit in the twenty five class. You know, just like I said before, this is the worst thing that happened to Tommy Lloyd. He'll be fined, He'll find another one. Right, you don't get every guy. We don't get every right, you don't get every guy, you know. I think Tommy's good with the guys that he's getting. He's been making a bunch
of offers out there. Oh here's the one I just saw that. This is what's gonna bring up because you love the Dodgers so much of Clayton Kershaw, who was doing rehab appearances. They're shinting him down for now. He's got some and they call it lingering soreness in his surgically repaired shoulder. So obviously not going well for Clayton Kershaw, which sucks. I have one because I don't think we talked about this is the Arizona's assistant coach basketball. Oh
yeah, he's gonna go and coach the Sacramento. The thing that I'll miss most most is his ani anime on the sideline and the arguments him and Tommy have on the sideline. You know, Tommy able to settle down enough. He calls him his excited Italian on the sideline, you come down, sit down quiet. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people you know, saying that they're gonna miss it. They are. I still think that they need somebody extraly those guys to help out, because he was one of those
guys. And not to see that Jack and Steve Robinson just but he just gave you a trusted other set of eyes right that that you had. And it's funny because people really don't realize how much these coaches who are making the gazillions of dollars rely on their assistance, you know, sure one to keep their heads straight, to to to see things they don't see, to bounce stuff off, bounce stuff off of you know, she would go with this guy or that guy. Well, let me tell you and I'll bring this
up publicly. People know this Ross. Ross was was Loot's right hand man for years, right, for years, and when he was no longer that guy there was only struggled a little bit with that because it was at the end of his career and he needed he needed a guy like Ross right, he needed he didn't need a guy. He didn't need a guy. Oh, I did see the Cavaliers. Yeah, Kenny Atkinson, right, they
spot because that was the spot when that opened up. When that opened up, people were thinking, you know that coaches that the Lakers were looking at might wind up. You know, you could go over to Cleveland. Because there was a lot of debate on whether or not the Cleveland Cavaliers Cleveland Cavaliers job is a better job right now today than the Lakers job. I don't know. I mean yeah, I think would you, I mean, of
course you would take the job. I would take the job too for Lakers paying five ten The laborers came and asked me the day to coach your team. I think I would. Yeah, But the thing is you have to also deal with thew that goes on going. And you know that I could deal with that for five million a year, even for a two million a year, you know, they could get me cheap. Well, you know we're already better than Erst and Young. You know what we're talking about.
Oh, I want to say real quick because I know how you did something with the two thousand and five twenty five wide receiver. Desmond Roebuck is going to be going to I guess Washington. He committed to. He's a Morana class guy. Yeah so Tucson. So you know he's pretty good. I listened to his interview with with I said it wrong. I thought it was Reese Davis, but it was with our dude rolled the ape guy. Who
Who's Who's who? The interview Jet Fish, Oh, the APA guy, he does a pea guy, John Marshall, no football, We've got him on the show. Oh yeah yeah yeahah. I got Russous Oh yeah yeah, like an hour long interview with with with Ralf Russo. Think it was good. A lot of bull crap in there. Jet is still well crapping people over there. Yeah yeah, but uh, you know he talked about he talked about how he only lost only four u A guys jumped into the
portal before he took the Washington job. But then he said he got thirteen from Arizona when he went to wash him like thirteen. I remember being thirteen. He's used that number of lot so it must be. But he's got it's about four or five really quality guys. Yeah, the running back, I thought he was a huge deal. Yeah, Coleman, Yeah, Colemba, I thought he was. He would have been fantastic here. Well you didn't get the ones you really know. No, no, there was Umberto
again, thank you very much, So go bite it dead. There you go. All right, Oh you're one of those. No, I'm not. I'm good. I'm good with him. Hey, look, I still appreciate what he did here. Yeah, we wouldn't be we wouldn't be having so much fun going in the next season. It wasn't for that. All right, we're out here, We're gonna take a break. We'll be right back with who's our guests? Love Michael I Helpe. He wasn't listening to
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welcome back to Lie on the bagharel Pox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakinsaws, and on the phone we have Michael led from the Arizona Daily Star. Michael, how you doing good? How are you guys? We're doing Thank you, Michael. I thought I saw something last week where you did a five take from from Desiree's a thing with the board or did I miss that? I see it wrong? True? I did. Okay, you're good, good good? Well? What were your highlights?
Well? I thought the most interesting thing was the formation of what they're calling Arizona Sports Enterprises. Yeah. We talked about go ahead. Yeah, so they're basically, you know, taking their multi media rights that's not network TV. That's a different thing. But we're talking about radio sponsorships, this type of thing. They're taking it all in house. It has been operated by this company that I'm sure people are very familiar with called lear Field or Learfield
IMG College as it's also known. And basically, you know, they would pay like money a guarantee and they would handle all the operations and so forth. They kind of formed like a little staff at each at each school that they're in business with, and it's somewhere around two hundred schools, and you know, they provided a valuable service in that way. But when the audit came back, the report from Ernst and Young that you know, broke down
every aspect of the way the athletic department has been run. One of the recommendations that ernstin Young made was that hey, if you guys bring this operation in house, there might be some longer term benefits to be brought from that. So Desiree decided to, you know, take the leap, take the gamble. It is a risk, but you know, she's sort of of the mind kind of, Hey, you know, I believe in myself and my people. Let's let's bet on ourselves and let's try to you know,
let's try to hit a home run here. Now, they haven't put any details behind this, right in terms of how it's going to be structured, because there's now when you when you look up the u of a staff directly, there's it's called Wildcat Sports Properties. That's where Brian Jeffries, Joe Moeller, Dana Cooper, all those guys are. That's those are the guys that basically worked for Livefield, right. Yeah, they have not they have not
supplied details of what the structure will look like. I do know that one of the schools that she's kind of modeling this after to a degree is Clemson, and I guess Clemson's had a lot of success doing this sort of thing. She's bringing in a couple people from Missouri to kind of run the show and kind of get things up. And you know, one of the objectives
that they have is I guess what you'd call like corporate synergy. They want, you know, the idea of, hey, you know someone who's a donor who also has a business, maybe they can also do a sponsorship, maybe they can also do an nil deal and kind of being able to wrap all those things into one big package. So that's kind of the idea behind it. Like I said earlier, it is a bit of a risk because you don't have that guarantee. The guarantee from Learfield was around seven million dollars.
The optimistic projections if you go out about ten years from Ernst and Young or that they could, you know, increase the revenue from this particular stream to around eighteen million dollars a year. So you know, that's the high end. That's the goal. That would obviously be very beneficial for a department that you know, is about thirty million dollars in the red. And it doesn't affect to both of you guys, It doesn't affect their radio deals.
Is twelve ninety involved in this somehow? Because it's someone that produces twelve ninety would buy the rights from liar Field, So now that we probably have to buy the rights from this organization, right Michael, that makes sense. I don't know. Again, I don't know the details on how that sort of thing would work. That's to be figured out still at this point. Obviously, as you guys know, Arizona Wildcats are a very attractive property, both
here in Tucson and across the state. That's that's a valuable entity to have on your airwaves. People still do listen to games on the radio, so I don't think they'll have any trouble you know, selling the rights for that,
the you know, lining up the corporate sponsorships. That will be interesting because it really shifts the burden to you know, the staffers that you've hired, and you really have to go out there in the local community and find people who are interested in becoming part of this, who want to invest in signage, nil deals, et cetera. I was gonna ask, Okay, so there's that. Now, what was maybe a second point of your five
points? Yeah? That was that one was the main area that that I focused on was it was a forty nine page report that some of us were able to get a hold of and look at from Ernst and Young and it was really interesting because I mean they covered everything down to the most minute details about like how peak cards are used, you know, how travel arrangements are made. So they're looking for like every area where they can you know,
become more efficient. I would say the part that stood out to me, the part that set up to me the second most would be the recommendation to do naming rights for both the basketball arena and the football stadium. This is something that I've been harping on for a long time. I can't understand why it hasn't been done to this point or to the party line I've gotten over the years is oh, we want to make sure we do it right.
It's to do it. A lot of schools have deals like this, and it can bring in, you know, I don't know, one, two, three million dollars a year. Again, when you're in this situation that Arizona is in right now, every penny counts that that would be extremely helpful in my opinion. I do understand that, you know, renaming the Kale Center probably wouldn't be very popular, so you probably have to be careful how you go about that particular arrangement. I think Arizona Stadium is a bland,
boring, generic name. I have no problem whatsoever with renaming that. But there's a lot of possibilities there, you know, and you get your you get your brand out there in a really significant way. If your signage is up all over the stadium, they're mentioning it on all the TV and radio broadcasts, et cetera. It seems like a no brainer to me. Now it's just a matter of going out and executing that plan. Mike, I
can tell you why they haven't done. It's because old farts like me start whining and pissing and moaning every time, every time it comes up, and you can't. You know, we've got to call him the Kale Center for the rest of our life. We'll all die soon and then you can sell it and you'll be all. And I said this to Jay Michael Is that we're in Tucson. We're not a wealthy city. We're not a wealthy place here. Who would do it for X amount of money? Because they're very
few of those. Well you'll go, you'll go to a big corporate spot, sure, but like Bank of America or something like that. Good luck. Well look, ASU is able to do it. I know, Phoenix is a different market than here. They did it with a credit union for a fifteen year deal and access to three million dollars a year. Look, Desiree read Francois and her staff are banking on the Tucson area having enough corporate
wealth or corporate heft to pull this off. I mean, if if, if you're if what you're saying is true, this is not gonna work. Yeah. So, I mean they they clearly believe that it will and that there is enough uh corporate interest here uh to do this. And so you know, we'll see who that ends up being. Is there enough board naming rights as well as kind of all the other you know, stuff that they want and need. I mean that remains to be seen. Again that that's
kind of where the risk comes in to both of you guys. Just an observation from my end, because you're you're the business guy in the business song. Don't you think that they would have asked all these questions before they did this, because maybe there is a floater out there that said, okay, we'll do it. Yeah. I think they've got people in mind already. What I would say, yes, okay, And again it's the most interesting
thing. And and look, I've been saying for a while now, since really since this whole twenty twenty two million dollar let's pay the athletes and share the revenue thing came al he said, you got to go find money from anywhere, so sell it all, sell naming rights for everything. And I think they're going to have to do that, whether it's uh, you know, the stadiums or you know other things, you know, a field, anyone of a number of things. They're going to have to put names on
all of that stuff. And it's just the way AYA is now allowing corporate logos on the field itself, right, Okay, I mean I don't think we're very far off at all from their being corporated logos on the uniforms right themselves. We see that in all sports, all levels, big time soccer, NBA has it, NHL has it, I think MLB has it. It's coming. Yeah, And you know, I'm not everybody like loves corporatization of college sports. I don't love it either, But if you want to
continue to enjoy it and consume it, it's it's an inevitable reality. And for every million dollars or half a million dollars whatever that they get in that regard, that puts less pressure on things like ticket prices and donations. So I you know, they have to do this. Anybody who's fighting this is just is just not being very realistic about what's going on. Hell, Michael, I'm ready to put a big tattoo in my back and go I do want. You know what, I don't want to see you without assured state.
So let's let's think of something else that's not a promise, anything else that struck you, because you know, wilder heads, calm, you've done your stuff. There was a big story in yesterday's Sunday paper with Wolf doing it, just a lot of craziness. And Jade just brought up the twenty two million dollars a year that throws more gasoline on the fire. Yeah, I mean, I think the other I think the other thing that's worth noting is that all of this is being done to prepare for what's to come.
They're already in a debt, right or a deficit, I don't know whatever one of those is the applicable term, but they're in the red. They're not, you know, bringing in as much revenue as they are spending. Right. That's only going to get worse when the House versus NCAA settlement is reached and they're going to have the opportunity to pay another twenty million dollars a year to the student athletes as part of the revenue sharing deal. Right,
So they're going to have to come up with that money too. And I know for a fact that when Desiree read Francois started putting together her budgets for future years, that she baked that in. And she is a firm believer in Arizona's participation in revenue sharing. She will not compromise on that front. She said to me multiple times. You know, Arizona is a championship caliber program, and she is determined to make sure that it remains that and that
the student athletes have the best experience possible. So in order to do that, you have to come up with all of these different and new streams and sources of revenue. I don't know if you asked the question or somebody else asked the question during her initial press conference when she had the president up there or whatever about cutting sports. Defiant no from her. What do you think
now? I still think that not a huge appetite for cutting sports. That being said, with revenue sharing, there could be some sacrifices that have to be made all across college sports, and it's much more likely to happen to the Olympic sports that don't generate revenue right, ones that have a lot of
expense and don't bring in a lot of money. I still think that that's possibility, not just here but elsewhere, and that those sports, you know, sort of might you know, kind of be converted into something more akin to a club level, like at Arizona. I don't think sports like baseball or softball or golf are vulnerable in any shape or form. Is there's a lot of a lot of investments have been made, there's a lot of tradition surrounding those sports. But I don't know. Some of the other ones I
still think are vulnerable. Despite Desiree read Francois saying what she said, I don't you know, I don't think she was I think she was being honest. I think she really believes that. I don't think she wants to cut sports. But you know, these days, you never know, you know, what sacrifices are we're going to have to make down the road. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's the big worry that it's talked about the most. When you're talking about, Okay, we're gonna start paying, we're
gonna start paying all the athletes, Well, who gets how much? And how do you yeah again, how do you account for the the athletes who are in you know, sports that don't produce any revenue. They basically they've been carried by football and basketball all this time. What are you gonna do with that? Of course? That is that is the multi billion dollar question, right, How is this all going to work? Like? If you have to you know, if there's no rules, I don't believe about who
gets the twenty million dollars in revenue sharing. I think you can divide it up. However, you are right? I want right? So do you divide? You know the title nind factor in you know, did an equal amount have to go to the male athlete that goes to the female athletes? Is that even possible when you know football is involved, which has such a
huge roster and also generates the most revenue. Very interesting to see how all of that plays out well, Michael, Thanks for coming on board Today will probably give you a break until the start of football season when we see what kind of quality we see initially and how it carries to the season. I look forward to it, guys, Thank you, thank you, Thanks about Michael. Appreciate it. Michael lev there was on a daily start. Sorry we didn't tell you who he was, but you've heard his voice enough.
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call right now. Hi, You're on the air and I on the ball. Hey, guys, I wanted to welcome feed back from his trip to Fantafe, I guess and send my sincere sympathy in the loss of his mom. So my mother, My mom always said we have sports to take our mind off our problems, and it seems college sports, especially after listening to Lev, has its own problems. Everything on this earth is temporary, but I look forward and I'm optimistic, looking forward to our new association with new
teams in the Big twelve. Yeah, well, thank you, sare Yeah, thank you very much. Real quick? Are you a fan? Right? You're a long term fan? Yeah? So, okay, I met, I met at the Red and Blue. Okay, yes, yes, And let me ask you something. Is there something that would prevent you from being that fan? They would if they did something that would say, okay, had enough. Well, you know, I'm retired, so I have you know, I'm not a big donor, so it's even hard for me
physically to go to the games anymore. But I used to go for twenty years to basketball and football and work and then go and take your kids and everything. But I don't know, it's like mL like this is the first year I don't have MLB Premium. You know, the whole money gamblings scandal and all that. I just decided I'm gonna tune out and not follow it as much, even though I really like baseball and the race. RADEO, Okay, all right, that's okay, that's fair enough. Yeah. Yeah,
but as far as you as concerned. You know, I'm still a fan. You know, I love I love listening on the radio to Brian Jefferies. He's great. I enjoy listening to you guys, and I enjoy sports. Well, thank you very much. We appreciate your share, man, thanks listening. Appreciate it. Now again, look the old guys in the room us, you know, we're you know, we're just going to
take in our sports. It's it's it's the Henryson and and you know my son and his friends, who you know, they got a long time left, you know, to be watching sports, and I think they're I think they're way more flexible than we are in in the sense that we're kind of
purest, right. You know, I don't like the designated here, you know, I don't like, you know, all these things that as we were growing up, the way sports were, they're so different now to them, it's been changing like this their whole lives, right, I mean, am I right, Henry? I mean it's like there's nothing sacred for you guys really anymore. Yeah, you know that there's changes when rosters and guys come and they go, and they get traded every other year or whatever.
For me, I'm not especially to be one of those reasons, because it's not there's no loyalty, continuity, loyalty all that. Because I like my Reds in seventy five, seventy so forever, right, your Dodgers and forever. Now, I couldn't tell you a roster the Dela Cruz is the only guy I know. I don't even know the manager. I mean, I mean, right, And I mean that's why it's been for you guys, and you're you're okay with it, right, I think we kind of like
the changes you do. It's differently. Yeah, that's true, because you're that's what you're used to. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, you guys have no idea what it's like. Remember that Dodgers infield of save Russell, Garvey and Lopes, they were together for eleven years or something like the same four guys playing infield for the Dodger for like ten eleven years. Sure, same with the Reds, same kind of thing. You just didn't have that Yankees. I mean, I remember when Pete Road and Joe Morgan
left the Reds. I'm like, what the hell has happened? Right? Right? Right that, I'm like, what the hell is going on here? And it was weird and and so these guys have been this is the way that sports have always been, not a big deal, right. I just think that if the percentages of money, and I thought maybe he might come up with money, and he kind of did. Uh, if it's a forty percent increase on a ticket, well they can't do it all at
once, you know, eventually, right, Okay, eventually? Yeah, I mean if it's ten percent, fifteen percent, overtime, over time, you're okay with it. You ease into it. Look, anybody can ease into something like that, you know. But it's it's it's when it's all of a sudden boom. You know, we're gonna hit you with a hammer. That's what people lose their mind. So you're telling me you're gonna buy
only one seven dollars hot dog? Uh, you know to you know it, It bothers me a little bit that they that they check our stuff more than they used to. Because we used to be able to take lucky wishbone into the into the game. We we would get it. We would, you know, because you could take backpacks this stuff, so you know, would take left over lucky wish one from our tailgate and then halftime would break it out. You go to our section after a game and there'll be all
these chicken bones underneath our seats. And you can't do that anymore, you know, with the clear bag and all that stuff. You know, so you know, you got to buy their stuff. I don't you know. Wait, here's what I do. I don't eat at the game anymore. I may get some I probably had nachos at half the games last year. Okay, I might get a coke at halftime. I don't spend a bunch of money on food at an Arizona football game. I don't. And baseball
is a whole different deal. It's like getting a hot dog and a bag of peanuts and a beer or a coke is part of it. You didn't You didn't really, you didn't really experience the game if you don't get those things. When I go to a baseball game, I go to a football game, I don't necessarily go in there, you know, for the food. I don't whether it's whether it's an NFL game or whatever. And I
don't know why that is. You eat before the game and before Yeah, we tailgate, you know, before the games or if we go to if we go to a football game, you know, let's say Cardinals game. Yeah, you we'll go to dinner before the game, or we'll lunch or whatever. So I don't need to eat at the game. But I go to a baseball game, even if I've just eaten, I still gotta have a hot It's kind of stupid, is Jay? I have a problem?
Hey, real quickly, I want to maybe someone can call us, but I'm gonna ask you this because I don't know the situation, and I know there's clarification that needs to be done. So liar Field has this entity right there there, they're they're not associated with you a uh. And so you're you're Sam Levit's okay, you give money to to Liri. How does where did your money go? You pay liar Field for the sponsors for the sponsor, okay, a sponsorship, and they in turn give the money to you
of a percentage of right whatever whatever they're agreement. Yeah, they're a middle It's exactly what they are there in middle man. Okay. So they're eliminating the mill, right, which makes sense. So are these liar Field people under the guys of you of A or are they who's paying for their insurance?
That's what That's what I don't know. I don't know if Brian Jefferies and Dana Cooper's were employees of liar Field off their employees of the U of A. You know, if they got paid based on how successful they successful they were with Liarfield, because because those guys were all those guys all went
on sold they corporate sponsorships and stuff like that. I guess, I guess I thought that I've thought all along that except for that, except for Brian Jefferies probably getting paid by the u of A for the radio work he does, all the other work that they do came through Liarfield. I have no idea. Maybe we need to get one of them on. That's not the time. But you know, to clarify, right, whose name is on your check? That's as simple as that. Who writes your check? You
know for your the you know your income. Maybe maybe Brian Jefferies as the announcer is also paid through Liarfield. I don't know, or is with through Lierfield and is a contractual guy. Right, they have a content fact with the u of A. So they're working at Michale, they have offices and miail right, but they're probably but they might be litar Field employees. I don't know. Yeah, okay, you know, you know a way to look that up is just see what Brian Jeffers LinkedIn says. Yeah, he'll
we have to lock that. I'll explain it. Good luck again, and we want to call. We have six minutes of five two oh four one six seventy four forty would like to hear from you whatever you want to talk about this, this money situation. You are recruiting football wise, basketball wise, women's basketball wise, whatever you want to do. Uh, we'd appreciate it. It's going to be back like I said, here, okay, here here it is. Wait, wait, we'll take the call. Let's
take this call. Hi, you're on there and I on the ball. Yeah. I talked a little bit about this this so this whole deal with thanks. Yeah, saw they with the sports entities and stuff like that, Please go ahead. Sure. My question is are this a PLA. Are they still students? No? Not anymore. Well they're students, yes, but they're not amateurs. I guess is what we're saying. They're still students because they still have to go to school, but they're about academic and eligibility
and those kind of things anymore. Well, they've got a lot of tutors, they've got a lot of holders to get them through the semester. Well. Yeah, with the investment that they're making in these guys, they're making short I shouldn't say just guys that they're they're making sure that the athletes have
all the resources and everything that they need. I mean, there are teams of tutors and and I guess advisors that go on the road with them that they're always I mean they've built the whole building for you know, at at On campus across from m Kale for you know, the academic piece of this. So they are still students and they have to still be students, and
they they have to be academically eligible. But you're what you're seeing recently, for instance, you know, Arizona in all their sports is setting records for grade point averages. Right, they're keeping all these you know, I think it was years ago, but there was a he was a defensive back for
Arizona in the Mike Scoops area. He's he came up, you know, in an interview with him, he came out of publicly says that you have to try to not be eligible anymore with the resources that they give the athletes. Okay, yeah, so yes, they are still athletes, but they're not as amateurs. They're pros now, Yeah, they're don't really, they're not an amateur athletes exactly. They make more than you and me and Jay
put together. And that's just one person, some of them. Yeah, as far as naming rights and stuff like that, there's someone kidding themselves thinking that a local Tucson comedy is going to spend big dollars to name you a same listen, and I don't care about it. I'm an a hole far like Jay, Yeah, and and and that kind stuff. POSI meve, But I know that Arizona State is going to have to be named whatever whatever it's going to call it. But it's got to be some sort of return
on your investment. If I want two on company, they want three million dollars a year for me, I had to get three point five million back in revenue. Yeah, yeah, it's got to pay off. This has to be a return on investment, absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, I agree with you totally. Thanks for calling. What's your name? What's your name? Real quick? Have you called it before? Oh? Okay't know who that is? All right? Yeah we went to high school together.
Oh that's what you know? You know it? Okay, thanks thanks for calling. I appreciate it. I didn't recognize the let's get to this, okay, I just found it. Brian Jeffers worked for Learfield Okay, and on his LinkedIn he said he listens to his director of broadcasting at lear Field Arizona and down in his his work experience. He works for lear Field IMG College. He's voice talent, Voice of the Wildcats, and he also makes sense. Yeah, so those guys are all lear Field employees. So
that's what they're saying. That entity no longer is going to do what it's been doing. You'd like to think that the new entity, the Arizona whatever they called it, uh is going to take these guys on that. Brian Jeffries will know he's no longer gonna work for the Liffield, He's gonna work for, you know, the organization. It sounds like the organization is going to actually be separate, right, a separate and it's not going to be
quote unquote in the It's not gonna be under the athletic department. It sounds to me like it's gonna be its own, just like Liffield, just a separate entity, and it'll be housed at you know, probably housed of Michael. But whatever the financial piece of it is, you know, however, the finances, the financial structure of it, it sounds to me like it's not going to be uh uh, you know, within the u of a
athletic department, under the auspices of the University of Arizona. But it's gonna be it's gonna be a side business, a standalone business, Arizona Sports prop that has to do all that stuff. And then there's probably what they're probably gonna do is consolidate some stuff in there, you know, selling all the corporate sponsorships, all that kind of stuff, and there's some sort of a financial relationship that takes me yah. I want to also get to one last
second. We could have had this in breaking news with Greg had something with the Series Cup, the Serious Cup that there was almost like forty ninth. It's one of the worst it's landed. We talked about this maybe two weeks ago because the season's not really over, but it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. We thought that, and also we had it. They had a good year, they did good, a very good year, and
still they landed not so not so hot. Yeah, not sure. I'd have to look at the and one of the worst in the pack to Pac twelve. I think it is. So it's just you know, tells you how difficult it is because even though you had a good year, not so much yeah you know. Uh, And and I thought, what you gave him a ninety. I gave him au put it anymore. I dropped it to like, No, you could have dropped him much. You could have
dropped it to like an eighty seven or something. Really, yeah, really, because the way they flamed up both you were Russian, the way they flamed up both in in in in the you're like Brian. I don't want to be like Steve, but I okay, Hey, good to be back, first day. Thank you very much, and we'll see you tomorrow. We will have a good guest, at least for right now. We'll talk more about it tomorrow, all right, and uh, Juice tomorrow tonight right
for you? Yeah, Juice, I don't know. Maybe, Okay, see you later.