Monday, June 19, Hour 1

This is I on the Ball with Steve RIVERA and Ja Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services. Hey sure your most prized possessions Katie z R Two side at iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Bar here on Fox Spurs fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve river He's Jenkins. As we have Jason in the house today. Welcome to Monday, A very hot Monday, A early start of what we're

gonna see is miserable weekend, miserable weekend. But hey, we're indoors. We're good. We're good. We are inside. A lot of stuff happened over the weekend. A lot of ricky news, a lot of crazy news. Yeh, where do you want to begin. Let's talk about some of it because we won't be able to talk about all of it. Well, first of all, let's talk about our guests. Okay, um, for

our guest at three fifteen is Adam Lazarus. He's the what his title is, but he basically runs Arizona Assist. I don't if you call him the CEO or whatever an Arizona assist is that I don't know. If you call her a elective, but it's that group that they collect donations and they and they and they basically pass out the money to airs on basketball players. You get opportunities to buy shirts and jerseys and caps and gear, um with the

with the uh, the ue buyers, basketball is whatever. Just back, this is just for basketball, and then that money goes to those athletes with an avenue for people could be able to help with the whole NI out. In fact, I was with him last week. That's why I try to get him on last week. But he's coming on today just to clarify more

of what they do, how it all works. Uh, they'll be actually doing some ads on our show to get the word out and in fact, all of our Heart Jay they had something they talked to Steve, so they're gonna have a lot of presents in the local Heart family, especially especial with us. I just wanted to kind of let them clarify some place because you know, there's it's still confusing to a lot of us. And then on top of that, there's all the stuff going on at the at the federal

level. There's nil legislation, legislation, national, nil legislation in the works. Various states have their own. Um the NC double A is asking the the US government to step in and kind of bring some order to this. So whatever the rules are, at least everybody knows what they are, and there's one set of rules for everybody, and that's kind of what they're doing.

So there's some legislation that's been drafted. And then on top of that, there was this ruling by the IRS that said that collectives cannot collect. The donations that go to collectives for the purpose of nil are not tax deductors, right, And that's and they're not a collective. Remember we're not a collective. I think they're just an avenue for athletes to get to have a

chance to put their name, image and likeness out there. I think I'm gonna ask him at least maybe we can ask him about what our softball player said last week, you know about l and in name image and like this, And that's the essence. That's what I should have been, right. You know, if Jay wanted to get some money for sign some autographs somewhere, he can go ahead and read that he was chasing his own rainbow. Right. You're not someone You're not just you're on the team and you get

some money, right exactly, So we'll talk about about that. You know, originally, that's what it was intended to be. That's what, well, what that's what a lot of the what that that's what it's intended to be, and what a lot of it has become is what we just said, where people, you know, groups are collecting money and then just handing it out because you're on the team or saying Okay, we'll give you five hundred thousand dollars. To complain, that's not what it was supposed to be.

No, that's that's technically supposed to be illegal. And that's what we'll talk about, just the difference to what he presents and what other people present. Okay, and then at tour fifteen at four or fifteen, Bob Kemp of Phoenix radio, host of the Sports Zone on ten sixty, then commit talk about this big news in Phoenix, Bradley Beale. We talked about that on Friday, right, was he going to go to the UH to the Suns? And he did? Jason, were you surprised and happy? What

do you care? Um? I was surprised. I thought that he might actually have a better better offer than the Sons. But as you, no, I think it's good for the Sons by the same time, not that good just because they lost another piece on the bench which is already very limited. Um So I think in a shorty term it could be good for them. In the long term, I don't know whether they're gonna be headed. Well, I think of the long term. What about what about DeAndre?

I mean, yeah, is he gonna stay, is you're gonna go? That's another guy that I'm not sure how he helps him? Right? And then I mean, yes, size, they need size. But okay, then what are you gonna do for a point guard? Yeah, I mean they have um book book good can play point but he isn't like a nazis not a natural point Yeah, but he can play the position a little bit. Um. I guess you know you have campaign there who can also kind

of play a little bit. There are you know, some other avenues they can go in for agency, maybe to go pick up someone I don't know, But okay, so we'll talk to him at four fifteen or seventeen. So now let's talk about let's talk about San Diego State. Oh, hy, you're on the air, and I on the ball. Hey you guys, this is Gabriel calling from California. Hey, do we have time to call to talk about college football relignment? Also and also, um, you guys, uh tough you guys said um in a poll or I think it

wasn't. I think it was justin and a least show that did. What does Arizona Wildcast prefer more for Arizona to go to a Final four or Arizona going to the Rose Bowl? I think it's very clear the Rose Bowl. Yeah, I mean in Final four they didn't. It didn't say winning a national championship. So I think going to a Rose Bowl. You're keyn Gabriel. But what's your other question? What's your what's your comments on the on

the uh realignment stuff? So anyway, um, uh, like I said to you a couple of weeks ago, obviously you know why don't your colleagues Jason sheer and and he basically texted, he basically sent it on Twitter opposed to this, and he said, this is just a rumor, So let me say this. Um, he heard a deal might be on the table this week. Rumor is twenty two point five million dollars trying to find out from too. I don't believe that's good enough at the moment for the school.

So can I give him my thoughts about it? Sure, twenty two is not good, but go ahead. Yeah. So so one of my thoughts about it is, I think, if if it is true, I think, if if if Arizona, well, if the Patrol TV deal is worth twenty two twenty two point two twenty two point five million dollars and the Bid twelve has around thirty eight thirty eight million dollars, I think he is

queer. Arizona should just aside just due to unforeseen circumstances or I'm not going to try to award it anyway what President Robbins or day Peeky would say. But I think if it's if it is true, I think Arizona needs him, makes makes him to go to the Bid twelve because I'm a fan. I know Jay is a fan. Uh Steve Um not so much because he didn't go to university University of Arizona, Well, he's on alumni. But Arizona needs is survived, and the Bid twelve is the queer best way for

Arizona to survive in Calle. In the college football athletic athletics. And if Asu and you taught one to be left from the dust, all right, they're incompetence in you know, we talked about that, Shay. I think Gabriel's pretty much spot on, especially about me. But but twenty two is not enough. One, But don't you have to have the invite to go. It doesn't matter what you want, you have to get the right Well,

I think I can't. I think once, I think it is true President Robbins and Davey, he needs to have an media press conference and just say we waited. We waited, We waited for George Clary cough to make to come up with the TV deal. And the TV deal is twenty two point five million dollars. Clearly that is not good enough for Arizona or we wanted to, We wanted to it to be more, but unfortunately it is

not. So after this moment moment, Arizona is leaving for the Pac twelve and we are gonna go, and we're gonna and we're gonna go to a better, a better option so Arizon could survive in this uh tragic college football realignment environment. Okay, Gabriel, thanks for all that we'll we'll comment on that because we're just getting ready to talk about all this, so stay stay on and we'll uh you'll we we've got some thoughts on that. I got

some thoughts on what you said, So thanks for calling. Okay, fire you guys, take care. I've I've not heard that number. I do follow Jason's share, but I didn't I don't follow him that close to that. I saw that I've not heard that number. I'm pretty sure if that

number was pretty well sourced, we would heard it from some others. So not to say that Jason doesn't have a good source, just saying I haven't heard and and I mean if if I would can say, you're speculate, if that's the number, then that's your right, that's that's not good enough, and that and that, and that sends a couple of singnals. One that sends that that that you know, the powers that be at the PAC

twelve couldn't get a deal done. And so if that's the number, then you know, but you're you're right, they also have to be invited. The thing is, would that would the Pact Big twelve invite the schools the number? You may not, You may go out a problem date. Jay. Honestly, you might want to go to the problem. You may try to get dressed on that, but if no one's gonna say yes to you,

you ain't coming right. So I've not heard that at all. Um. Uh, you know that the deal is still out there getting done. Um, I don't know how far away we are from that deal game. The funny thing about it, we're gonna talk about the subject. We have some minutes before we go to the go to the guest. But uh, there's another school that say, Okay, we're gonna go to the problem. But does anybody want us at the problem? And do the people that we

were with even like us anymore? And then there's this whole thing you know that they've talked about Yukon going over there, and I mean it's just there's just so many things, Uh, so many things in play. We'll go and talk about San Diego. Well, and so we did. We meant to talk about this on Friday, never got around to it. But um, there was an exchange of letters. San Diego State send a letter to the Mountain West. We gotta do this quickly, saying that they they wanted

a one month extension on this June thirty deadline. By June thirty, san Diego State has to has to um UH formally requests or withdrawal from the Mountain West or the or the price of that more than doubles. It's sixteen and a half million dollars exit fee if they would draw by June thirty. It goes up to thirty four million dollars if they do it after June thirty, because it's out they got to do this within the year of when they actually

would draw. So there's this this is sort of a deadline that everybody believes. The pack the PAC twelve is working on um So they send a letter requesting that. They also requested that the exit fee be reduced because San Diego State, through its through its UH getting to the finals the NC Double A Tournament this last year, it brings, you know, gets a lot of NC Double A Tournament money into the league. If San Diego State leaves,

they don't get any of that money. So they're saying we should get some of it by in terms of reduction of the exit fee. And then they said, or whatever we have to pay on the exit fee, would like to pay that in installments. Well today apparently the uh, the Mountain West basically through them the finger on all of that and said no, no, and no, not only no, no and no, but hell no.

And we just stand on top of that. Um. The Mountain West said that that they consider the letter that they got from San Diego State saying that they intend to withdraw. They're considering that their formal request to withdraw and are going to withhold possibly another six million dollars that all the schools have coming to them from whatever revenue sources that they're supposed to be a disbursement of six million dollars to all of the schools in the saying you're not getting that either.

Well, this is one just big, one big mess because it's taken Daniel Stay really screwed that up by you know, by by doing what it did. They should have just you know, waited for it to come out and now and instead they kind of you know, I heard, I heard somebody says, it's like you told you're you're soon to be ex wife. I'm leaving, but I don't want to leave for a month because I want to wait and see if my girlfriend is gonna let me come over to her house.

Yeah, and can I borrow the guest house guest room? No? Can Can I just stay here? And I just stay here and not paying your rent? So anyways, Um, it's a it's a bad it's a bad thing. It's gonna be a bad break up now with the San Diego State and everything's gonna land. Okay, you know, Okay is the word I use only because there's another really good word. We don't know what ever, I think though we set our we set a deadline for June d of June, right, and so we got two weeks. Do you think that

deadline will be met? It doesn't sound like I was gonna say every other deadline has not been met, And it doesn't sound like this is a dead deadline. That that uh, it's hard and fast. Is hard and fast? That the Pack twelve. For some reason, it's saying, well, we're just gonna you know, we may have to go past it. You

know. What's more of a deadline is what I hear is is a PAC twelve football media day, which is that's a that's a bigger deadline than the June thirty sent to state that well, we might be you might be graduated by then yeah, you want to worry about this sports place. Yeah, hey, you wouldn't take a great Yeah, let's go and take our break. We're in come back. We're have Adam Lazarus uh of Arizona Sister kind of give us a little bit of an education again of what all this stuff

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to me the about here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera's jackins Olso now and we have Adam Lazarus with Arizona Assist when the co founders are of it. How are you, Adam, I'm wonderful. Thank for having me on. Great. Great. This is an ongoing topic that we'll be with you from time to time talking about this and just how kind of the things always getting confused with so many things. Well, Adam, this is

day. I feel like every time we bring somebody on to talk about this, and this is the second time we've had you on to talk about this. We have to start over with the education process. Now I'm saying I'm sitting on your website. You call your say, Arizona Assist is a member driven marketplace, So you're not a collective? Um you're are you? Would you would you call yourself sort of a marketing arm or marketing firm or marketing

agency for basketball athletes? I mean what would try and break that down little bit for us? Absolutely, well, we are definitely not a collective. We are a brand. Arizonasist is a it's not a five O, one C three. It's not a nonprofit, although we are definitely looking into nonprofit solutions that allow people to to uh donate in that way. But as of now we are a brand meeting. The student athletes have endorsement deals with our

brand and a l deal. And so when we go make deals in the community, or we have members or we sell merchandise or any of the things that we do on Arizona this the student athletes are directly supported to that financially. Right, So let's say they have they have different levels of a membership, right, A thousand, one hundred, and it goes up incrementally. So if I wanted to be part of this, I give one hundred bucks, I get discounts for merchandise, things that I want to order, and

things like that. Correct, an, Absolutely, we are working alongside Tommy Lloyd, the team. We are not an official we are not officially endorsed by the school. We are working alongside strategic partners, alumni and the team.

And every dollar that we generate, the overwhelming majority of that once we pay our bills, goes directly to these student athletes to support nil So yet one hundred dollars annual membership, you get a free T shirt, You get a discount on all the cool wag we have on the website, You get first access to all of our cool events, and unique things that we do, memorabilia deals, anything that we drop on the website, you guys are

notified first. So one hundred dollars is a minimum membership and it goes up from there. But because you know that every dollar that you spend with us directly support Arizona men's basketball and Ila. Okay, so let me let me ask it this way. So let's say I'm a basketball player at the Yo Vang you know, just whoever, it could be anybody. What is the what is the agreement or the contract or whatever it is that I sign with

Arizona assist What does that consist of? It really consists of nothing other than an ability to make a passive income through our platform. It does their no exclusivity. The student athletes can continue and we encourage them to make nil deals as they would in the community. If businesses or brands reach out to them,

we certainly could help be a conduit or connector between that entity. If you have a business, any listeners who would want to have a student athlete show up or say something or being well, certainly we can connect you to them. But we do not negotiate on the player's behalf or anything like that. So there's lots of ways to get involved, but Arizonasist is one of

those. Nil agreement with them and the player received once we pay our bills, the players receiving propably eighty percent of the revenue from everything we do on excite. Okay, So for instance, if I let let's say there's an umar Batow shirt get jersey gets sold, is he the only one who gains from that sale? Or does that money get all the money from all the sales get thrown into a pot and it goes to all the players. Great question. Umar Botow shirt or a specific player shirt. If we sell a

shirt, pay for thirty bucks. Again, we pay our bills, We pay for the cost and design of the shirt, the printing, is shipping, the mailing, and he gets eighty percent of the revenue of that shirt directly for him. Okay. We sell something that Arizona sists logo that isn't specific to a player, and all memberships, by the way, everything that's a membership that isn't a specifical player that is split equally equally amongst the team,

so everybody participates in that revenue. Where a player who has specific merchandise or memorabilia gets directly, gets that money directly. And do they all Does a player have to have some sort of assigned agreement or contract with you to be able to get that money? Yeah, okay, they must have an agreement with us. It's a very in the simple agreement. They Again there's no they're not forced to be a part of it. But in order to

be part of arizonasists, they must have assigned agreement with us. Unless they transfer or leave school, that agreement um is valid, you know, throughout their journey here. So we had the court catcher former catcher at you of A last year and she talked about how crazy it is compared to when she played obviously a few years back. And the initial thing was athletes coming in,

they chase their own rainbows. They get you know, car dealer X to sign them, to sign them or have them go to a to a Lexus place or whatever, and you signed your autograph, you get paid, blah blah blah. And that's what nil was supposed to be, right, And all of a sudden people are gaining money or having this big bag of cash. Well, if you want to come to Arizona and this is gonna be part of yours. That was never the intent, correct, And that's

not our model either. So if there's any other entities or or collectives out there or anything that is that's out there generating money in that way for a student athletes, basketball or otherwise, we are not a part of that. That's not our platform. That's not our model we are. We built our model to be in the spirit of nil name, image and likeness, and that's what we do with our events, with our experiences, with our merchandise.

Everything now are on our website is split equally if it's not player specific and directly goes to the player. If it is, there's no where, there's no guaranteed revenue for the play, there's no minimum dollar amount, and there's no money in a city, in a bucket anywhere. That's not how our model works. Okay. And then we also know that Arizona is international player. You you know passport you has a number of players. And we

talked about this and you've made this very clear last week. Um Uh, they are able to get money, right, We talked about, well, then they can't work because none of visa or whatever. But but tell me

explain that to me. Us absolutely nil is actually a great way for international players to earn revenue, at least the model that we've created because as under federal laws of which we do not ever want to jeopardize, and we spent a great deal of time, energy and money to make sure that we are in hearing though not only you know, University of Arizona code, but uh, you know laws and whatnot. Mean, international players cannot do work under

their visa. So there's no work required for Arizona SIST. We don't require them to show up to things, sine autographs do any work. All they do is they give us their name, image, likeness, right, we use those things, they approve those things, and then we can sell merchandise or they and if they show up to events, that's up to them. They don't. We don't require them to do that or force them. So it's a great path of revenue stream for international athletes. Okay, so all

right, so now this finally makes sense to me. So you know, but the one thing that people who are listening have to understand is this is just for men's basketball, correct, Arizona Assist is just for men's basketball. Currently. We are not working with any other sport. Um. We are working strictly with Tommy and the team to ensure the Arizona men's basketball team has

an NIL solution. Okay, So with all the stuff that's going on at the federal level, to possibly put together some legislation that would that would govern over NIL and all the other things that are going on, most certainly collectives and stuff which are different from what you guys do. Is any of what's going on at the federal level going to have an impact on Arizona assist or groups organizations like it, I would say potentially only become because we're we kind

of joke sometimes, but we're building the plane as we fly it. It is a little bit of the wild West out there in terms of NIL. Every school is scrambling to catch up. Every program is trying to figure it out. There are hundreds of models out there. We feel that ours is the most nimble and the and the nicest one because for that reason, it allows us to pivot as the laws change, as the rule change, or as the marketplace changes. We have built it in a way that democratizes that.

So every fan, every alumni, every person who loves the University of Arizona men's basketball team can participate. Um, so, as far as we know there we there's no changes imminent that would affect us, but certainly will be responsive to those changes if anything does come. So I know you have the website, go ahead and give that to us. How many members do you have now? So Arizona Assists dot com. That's the website. Definitely

check it out. We have amazing events coming up from a golf tournament where our members can play golf and interact with the team and get autographs and have fun and it's a great and then we have a pickleball with Tommy Lloyd event happening in October at Corbett, the new pickleball venue downtown. We have hundreds and hundreds of members right now. We're looking to double our membership next year.

Within this year, I should say, we have lots of membership levels from one hundred dollars to thousand dollars to corporate membership so where we can creatively customize a deal for you. So lots of ways to participate, and we're excited to get going in year two with tons more events and lots more cool

merch on the site. What one of the things when I was going into the stuff regarding the legislation, Would there ever be a point where you might have to You might, because if you are complaining the most about is the transparency of it, that that people don't know what's going on, don't know

how much money is being thrown around. Could you see Arizonassists following being in a situation where it's going to have to divulge it's business in that way, it's going to have to say how much athletes are getting and that type of stuff, And would you be opposed to that? If that is ever mandated upon us, or something that you know is asked of us, we would

certainly do that. We are very transparent with everything we say on the website is built in a way to allow every click, every dollar, every detail to be captured. We know to the penny what we're distributing and what we're collecting. And we're very transparent with our business model because it's not a five O, one C three, it's not a collective. It is a business and it's a brand, and so we are very open to that. But yeah, we if if the world changes, we want it to be able

to change with it. Right now, Arizona dot Com is the NIL entity that is as forward facings, we can to make sure that these student athletes can get NIL dollars directly for every sale, every membership. So absolutely, yeah, that's it's becoming more and more clear, I think as you get and you're only like, what eighteen months in how many months in? Yeah, a little less to that. We got started right around January of last season, so I would say about that. Summertimes a little slow obviously with

a lot going on. But we're ramping up for one hell of a sophomore season here and we're really excited about the new roster and the new players, and May seems to be very excited about being a part of our Zone Assists too, So more more to come, but we are. We're very excited for year two. One of the things that I've saw when I went to the website was a lot of the cool swag each player has, you know,

their own creations or your creations with their with their imagination. Absolutely we leave with all the players we get there what they'd like to see on shirts or on swag our brand. We help build logos for players, from Pella Larson's logo to cool things for Omar Ballo and some of the other players.

So we try to um make their their ideas or their uh you know, whatever they're interest did come alive in our merchandise and then a lot of the time to our design teams and our talented people will come up with other things too. Because we don't have the the the rules of Arizona UM where we don't use the blockade, we don't use their uh their imagery, but we can create our own fun things that maybe the university wouldn't always allow for.

So we could definitely have more fun because we're our own brand. Okay, yeah, all right, thank you. It makes so much more sense to me now, and well, at least what you do, you know, I mean, there's still this whole thing of what a collective is versus what a collective is supposed to be. That's the that's sort of the big the big thing. It's that there and everything that you said about what exactly you guys do all yeah, absolutely, I mean it it's been you know,

it's been a learning curve for everybody involved. We are just one um, one group that's helping support the ni elephants to do you and the reversity of Barrizona. Everybody's working really hard to catch up and to do cool things. But for us, I mean anything from you know, the fun Tommy Lloyd BTFC T shirt that he wore the press conference, which was our shirt that

we uh, you know that he was highlighting. You can go to our website find all these cool things and more and at least be part of our of our group which is working really hard to make sure that Arizon Their's basketball remains competitive in this changing world here of college sports. Right, Okay, Now, I know you're gonna have a voice on our stations here and I hard down the road. Uh. And your golf tournament has that sooner? Yeah, we have it scheduled for September eighth. Way more to come on

that. We have pickleball happening on October fourteenth, um, and lost more fun things that we're gonna do with local partners and local businesses in town to allow our members access to the team, access to great mur today's memorabilia events, and more. So. It all starts at Arizona Assist dot com. So go check it out and be part of it by you know, just even a basic membership at one hundred dollars knowing that that money is going to

directly support our student athletes. Super well, thank you, Adam, Thank you very much. Gentlemen, great too, thank you. All right? Cool okay, cool, cool, I fin I finally got get that get it now? I mean, you know, and and the way he explained that, you know, you sign up and your your you you signed a deal with Arizona Assists, and you'll get stuff that that the membership money is distributed to all the players equally, all got all of scholarship players, scholarship

players. Okay. And then and then if if a T shirt with your name on it or jersey gets so, you get eighty percent of the of the revenue or the profit of that. Okay, God, that's that's actually pretty simple. Yeah, that's how they'm trying to make as simple as possible. Uh and eighty percent, you know, it's just kind of can now probably you know where that money is going. And then there's the dread in collected, which we can talk about that, right, and then that's for

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as we get close to the school years. We have things going on. But we want to talk about Bob Huggas. Oh man, that's such a bad deal. Once that once that happened. Once that when news came, you knew it was over. Well yeah, but you know. The thing of it is, though, Steve, is that, um, as you read how bad this was, it's it's you know, it was a dui is always bad. But the extent to what happened here with Bob Huggins suggests a whole a whole bunch of things. Apparently he did. According to the

police report, he did not even know he was in Pittsburgh. Oh really, yeah, he didn't. He had no idea where he was. All right, Um, they stopped him, well, they didn't stop him. He was he was on He was just blocking traffic because he had a shredded tire and he's sitting there with the door opened to his car. All this isn't the police report, and then they had to move the car and realize he was hammered. He blew a point two one. Yeah, let me

just let me let me say this. And you know, years ago as a as a police reporter, when they were first coming out with new breathalyzers and that type of stuff, I did a story where, um, we went to went to Marana High School and it was it was myself and uh Nina tray sot Fry to remember her, she was an anchor at k GUN. We went to a long time ago, well we're talking nineteen eighty three.

So, but the point of it, the point of this still is is current in that we went to Marana High School and they wanted to do a test. They wanted to show kids what being impaired. At the time, the legal limit was point one zero. It's been dropped to point zero eight now, but at the time is point one. Oh. So we'll go in there in the morning, they have Nina and I do all these driving tests in the parking lot. You know, the students came out for

that. We did all these driving tests. We did well on them, and then we spent the day in a motor home on the grounds there with Sheriff's department people so are like that, and we drank me and I got hammered purposely, purposely because of what they wanted to do is get us hammered and then under their supervision, try and go do these tests again. So so at three o'clock in the afternoon, all the kids come back out.

We've been there. But since we got through like eight o'clock in the morning assignment, you liked, well, I didn't at the end of the day because I was really drunk and I was and I was I was sick to my stomach and it was it was awful. We got to a point zero eight eight, So we didn't even get to the legal limit. We did these tests and we were horrible at it, right, you know, we both failed these these driving tests horribly and we didn't even get to the legal

limit. Now, they did tell us that, you know later on, you know, even though we had stopped drinking, you know, our blood alcohol level was going to go up, so we were clearly gonna be you know, above the legal limit. But when I think about how impaired I was at point zero eight eight, and think about Bob Huggins at a point two one, big, right, you know, they are so lucky, or he is so lucky he didn't kill himself and he didn't kill somebody else.

And you know, and the thing that I've always heard is that if at point two one, or you know, a point basically what I was at a point two, if you're still functioning well enough to drive a car, you've got a problem. You've got a drinking problem because you've been able to function at a high level. Now does Bob Huggins have a drinking problem. Maybe maybe he does, because this is the second dui um, But you know people who people who don't drink to that extent on a regular basis

can't function. You know, I had to be driven home, obviously, I had to be driven home from that, uh, from that, from that thing. But you know, I've always took that as a thing of I gotta you gotta get really really hammered to be legally drunk. Yeah, you know, so he didn't say what he was doing in Pittsburgh. Somebody said he's got a sister in law or something, like that that lives there, but he had no idea that he was there and why he was there.

Um, it's just really bad. And so you know, obviously they had to you know, had to do. They had to do what they had to do. I'm sure they said, you can either resign or we're gonna fire you. Either way, either way you gotta be gone. Sure. Yeah, too many too much smoke there to not say okay, you're gonna be okay. Yeah, because he was already in trouble from two weeks two months ago. Well see, and that's the thing. You know, a bunch of players, including Kurr Crisa you know, went out on social

media said they, you know, we love the coach. We're sorry. You know, you meant a lot to me, yadda yadda YadA, but you still can't be that guy, no matter how good of a guy you are. Otherwise, in one of the tweets from the basketball experts that we know said, uh, great, coach did really well, held people accountable. And then when he said when he wrote that, I'm thinking, well, he didn't held himself account And we've we've known him, he's been kind

of surly for a long time in the business. He likes who he likes. Uh, sority coach, a tough coach, to manning coach, and a lot. It's all fine and good, but uh, but he was sixty nine. He was probably gonna call it quits here in a year or two three. Yeah, he was probably gonna be This is gonna probably be his last year anyway. Not that's okay. But then again, if you you know, there are two ways of looking at this, because one of the things I heard was that he most more often than not has the driver

so that this doesn't happen. But then the question is, okay, if you do, if you get this hammered so much that you need a driver, what kind of a problem do you have? Right? And then again it said that in the story, what stories not just just some power various

talk you know, talk shows and stuff there. And then the other the other point that somebody made was, and that people always make, is if you did this, you've probably done it before other times that you didn't get caught and got away with it. You know, if if you're out there blown them two one and driving around, it probably isn't the first time you've blown You know, you've been intoxicated and driving around. So I don't know,

it's just they had. You know, On one hand, I feel bad for the guy because clearly there's some sort of an issue, there's a problem. Well on the other hand, I have no patience for people to do that. Well, well now now is everyone because it's a local connection with Kerr. You mentioned Kerr who who left here to go there obviously was paid to go there, you know, whatever amount of money, and people are saying, well, he might leave or go somewhere else. I doubt

if he does that. He was paid to go there. Uh, they'll be fine. I mean, come on, coach, it's a good program. They'll be yeah, exactly exact program. Whether the thing is the timing of this in terms of gating the coach. But they get a coach, I mean that coach has got to leave wherever they are well or unless they find somebody that's pretty good, that's not coaching right now. There's there's been a few names thrown out there, Dick Mytael throughout, Tom creen out there,

and I don't think that's a good fit. But there's a game that you probably won't even like. I like it a lot. Is is the Belne who coached to Michigan. Let him be the stop gap for a year or two, and then guy, get the guy you really want. Yeah, because he's the heck of a coach. He's got Michigan to two lights to other teams hinds, because they're gonna need something tomorrow, right yeah, not like today? Yeah yeah today. So so here here we are.

It's kind of like and not so much like this, but I'm just trying to think of the time, you know this thing. I might be talking out of my butt. Uh. When Luke left and they got Kevin O'Neill, it's like they had no choice. Kevin was here. They had to get a guy who was available. Yeah, yeah, you're right, So they had to kind of go with it until they couldn't go with it anymore.

And and that's the footy takes him and him and him and um cum crean, um O'Neill and um since he had the coach or or West Virginia coach, very close friends Huggins, Yeah, very because you talked about him all all the time. Um, but that's for another day. Yeah, but anyways, that is just such a messy thing. And uh again, whatever help Huggins needs to get or maybe he's sixty nine years old, he doesn't need it, doesn't just kid, I'm just gonna go on with my

life. Yeah, as long as he's not out there, As long as he's not out there driving fronk. Okay, cool, let's take this. Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. Hey guys, George here, Hey George, how are you pretty good? Yourself? Good? Good mister guys, ma'am. And you guys took off for like a week. Terrible. I wish I was loved this much of the house. No one cares, No one cares. Go ahead, George. It just got on the Bobby Huggins thing. Uh. It just reminds me of Howard

Stern. Howard Stern just hired. I mean he Bob Huggins must make the money that Howard Stern made when he first started in radio. But Howard Stern was always doing these stories on celebrities and just said, you know what, I'm gonna hire a driver and it doesn't matter. But when I call you, you show up and is Ronnie's the limo driver or whatever that guy's name

was. I don't know if I have that name correct, But he hired a limo driver, bought a limo for fifty thousand or whatever it was back then, and just said, look, when I call you pick me up, you take me some place, and you drive me off that way. Nobody can ever actually doing this. But now you have lift in uber and all that stuff, and Bobby Huggins he's got to be he's got to have twenty million dollars in the bank, right, he's been a coach for twenty

years. Oh, the idea is more than that. That's why it's even moren't excusable for a guy like like Huggins and some you know, other celebrities and athletes who have done this to do that because they have the means, you know, to not do this right, I mean again, and buy a Limo for fifty grand and then or one hundred thousand dollars or my back or something, and then hire a guy that you can call no matter what. Hey, you're my writer. Die and you don't have to in that

case literally a little writer or die. He just kind of do it. Just even if you're out of town. It's pretty simple. I mean you're out of town. Because he was not in his area, get somebody to take himself or not get somebody. Just get Uber easy, very simple, and that's why it's an app on your phone. And maybe he's an older guy, and maybe he doesn't realize the apps. If he didn't realize where

he was, maybe he doesn't know how to use an app. I don't know, but maybe he doesn't deserve to be coaching basketball at that point either. Yeah, well it's happened. He's gone, and we'll see what happens out now. Right Anyway, I just thought Howard Stern was a pioneer. When it came to that, he was like, I'm tired. Do I have to do this in the news every day? And why I'm not gonna

ever let that happen to me. I'm gonna hire a driver. Sure he did us apartment all right, George, hey Man, thanks much, appreciate it, Thanks for appreciate Welcome back. Thank you, George. We've been back already for a week. More than the week. I'm glad that people missed the site that he doesn't love somewhere else. But again, and that's what makes it even more inexcusable. As as he said, you know, you've got the means to not do that. He you know what's gonna He's

sixty nine. He probably has some coaching chops left in him. He might say, you know, okay, I'm gonna go through rehab or whatever. I'm just assuming now. Um, I don't need to solve his problems. But I bet you coaches again. I bet you anything he coaches again, at whatever level he coach again. Come on, he's a pretty good coach. And if you're a pretty good coach, they're gonna find you. Patino did it. There's a list, long list of people they find him.

If you can coach him, they'll take another chance on him one more time. Well you know, well that's gonna happen. Yeah, Well, if you hire him, be ready to to deal with Yeah, they'll be clauses up to wazoo. Yeah for all this, I just you know, I mean, I uh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's look but but and we haven't been brought up the thing that he should have gotten fired for the first time. You with the you know, the homophobic slur on the radio. I mean, he's got there.

Those are those are big strikes against him. I don't know if you if you was a school may maybe like you said, he goes and coaches at a small college somewhere, even to junior college somewhere or something. Come on, Bliss can get a coach head coaching job somewhere, and there is that, you know, if you can coach, if you can play, they'll find a place for you. On We've seen this, there is there is that. So yeah, who knows. So okay, we'll see, we'll

see. We've got about two minutes. Thanks George for Collin's good to hear from you. We're gonna have breaking news from our guy Jason here. Kinds of recruiting stuff going recruiting stuff, soccer stuff. I watched it just yesterday. Yesterday. I don't know what the heck I was doing. Oh, I was out with some people and watching it. Was interesting. Well,

because I said, did I say to you or maybe someone? Thursday Friday, I said, the guy who had the lead all the time, fer, I'm thinking, Fellow, he's not gonna he's not gonna win it. He's not gonna with it. He held he held on for a while out there, He held on for a while. I wanted him to win. What what did he say to the winner, because I'm reading about all this. He said, Well, the guy, the winner, Wyndham Clark said that you know what he was asked, that's what you think? I was

thinking about my mom? Right, his mom had passed away. I felt like she was looking over me and saw that because of her, I won it. Well, Ricky Foller basically said the same thing to him before he even said that to anybody else. He said, Hey, your mom is really proud or something like that. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense that that was all about that. Very cool. Yeah, but it was really cool. Ending Wyndham Clark, the winner came out of nowhere.

Rory McIlroy finished his one stroke back. Just another one of those guys g that I always tell you about out of nowhere. These guys go crazy, but good days. Yeah. He had won eleven and a half million dollars in his career and how long How old is he? Early thirties? Okay, so it had one eleven and a half twenty dollars in his entire career. He got paid three point six million dollars for this one alone. Not

a bad gig, Not a bad gig. All right, Let's take our breakwere and come back and we'll have breaking news with Jason Top of the hour. Will right back