Monday, June 17, Hour 2

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breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight. All right, So for today, Monday, June seventeenth, we have big news for Arizona women's golf. They have named a new head coach. It is Giovanna Maimon, who's a highly respected coach nationally. Apparently she's known to be an elite recruiter. She was named the University of Arizona's women's golf head coach, vice president and director of Athletics. Uh doesn't re read France, WI notunce today. Yep,

she was. Ironically, she was on the She didn't play on the team in the in that particular tournament, but she was on the on the Baylor team that Arizona last beat to let win its last national championship under Laurie Ainello. She's been assisted at Texas A and M. I think right correct. Yeah, she propelled Baylor University to an n cua A Championship runner up,

finished as a student athlete, like you just brought up. Her last three seasons were spent as an assistant coach at Texas A and M. So she's a first time head coach. Uh, She's walking into a great situation with the with the new golf facility that they have over there. She'll be working alongside Jim Anderson, who's the who's the men's coach, and we'll we'll see, you know. And for those that don't know that Texas A and M

program has been prolific the last you know, half decade. It says that I'm looking at Arizona Athletics site here it says that she helped the Agis reach match play at the NCAA Championships at all three of the seasons where she was on the staff, as well as including helping Adela No. Six run to

an individual national championship this past month. Yeah, certainly has the chops, you know, Arizon getting again, getting a first time head coach with somebody who looks like, you know, this is the logical next step for her at this time. She's pretty young, and so we'll see how that goes. But again we're, you know, coming into a good situation. Golf is uh, they've got some good players, they've got nice a nice new

facility. We'll see if she can keep things going over there. And of course Laura Ianello who moved on to Texas presumably because he probably offered her a bank truck. So that's the way it goes, and so we'll we'll try to get her on here at some point to introduce her to to everybody. Arizona softball has added a pretty decent transfer here to jay as Saya Swain has

joined us from Iowa State. Swain total two hundred and ninety strikeouts over two hundred and fifty three and one thirds innings, strikeouts per inning, and she had a career swinging mis rate on a change up of wow. Wow. Well again we've said, you know, pitching is what it's all about in the in college softball in Arizona needs pictures. They had some pictures, but they had a lot of injuries last year and a lack of consistent, dominating

pitching was its downfall and that could be her striping. Right, they got to the Super Regional without it, so you know you had maybe add a couple of pictures and and see what you can do, and now maybe go look further. Arizona needs to get back to the College World Series. Yeah. Last season she's tallied six six saves and ranked second and the Big twelve and eleventh nationally for saves. So some clutch consistency they're going to add to

the roster Arizona. Okay, we do have some Tom Hanson Medals to hand out, Okay to Gustav Strom of men's tennis and Ali Skaggs of softball. Uh. The award medal is generally awarded just for overall performance and achievement and not only your academics, but also your athletics and leadership abilities. Right, well, congratulations to each school gets a male and female athlete who get the Tom Hanson Metal. Tom Hanson being a long time Packed ten and maybe twelve,

I guess he was. I mean, I don't know if I think. I think he left before it became the twelve, but a long time commissioner of the of the league, and that that's an award that again every school gets a male and a female athlete in those Arizona So we had Ali Skaggs on the show a few weeks ago. You know, great kid.

I guess I shouldn't call her a kid, but you know, she was one of the top defensive players in the history of Arizona Arizona softball, So good for her and Gustav you know, tennis team man, you know, you could argue that they had as successful a season as anybody as any team in at Arizona, you know, getting to where they got to, had a great way to end the season. The academic tund right year almost round that out as well. For men's tennis, yep, we do have some

national baseball stuff going on. Garrett Cole set to return this upcoming Wednesday from his long stint. Okay uh, it's actually his season debut, all right, wow, okay, all right, so we'll see what we'll see. It goes on there again, as we mentioned earlier, you know, Mookie bats bust at hand. I'm pretty bummed about that. And Yamamoto, I'm

nave can Try's first name. He's out for the Dodgers, So Dodgers, you know, lost a couple of top players for them, and we'll see if they can, you know, kind of keep things going, hang on while they wait for these guys to get back. They've still got a couple of pitchers they're waiting to get back. You know, Clayton Kershaw hasn't pitched for them all year. Uh, Tony Gonsolin hasn't pitched for them all year,

and so it's it's been kind of tough. They kind of pieced together their their pitching staff and still there, would you say, seven and a half games in front of the Padres. Yeah, eight games in front of the Padres and half in front of the Diamondbacks and they're at They're at the Rockies starting tonight. So our friend Jack mcgrudor, who was on the show last week, was a official scorekeeper. You know, I'll be a monitoring the game, monitoring his calls. You know, hit er right, you

know, strap your Jack, that wasn't there, that was it? Yeah, exactly, So we'll have fun with that. But yeah, Dodgers have a three game set in Colorado starting tonight. The twenty twenty four n c DOAA Men's College World Series is continuing this week. We have North Carolina and Florida State tomorrow or tomorrow afternoon, I suppose at one pm on ESPN. And then we also have a game tonight Kentucky and Texas A and M. That is game number eight, right, that's a winner number two. Right,

that's a winner's bracket game. So the winner of that is basically in the in the semi finals. So the winner of that would then have to lose twice to either the way the bract works it have to lose twice in the in their next thing. So you're at Kentucky, Texas A and M tonight. The loser of that has the second game tomorrow to take on. Oh you know there was a North Carolina State Florida played today. Do we know what happened there? North Carolina State Florida or playing today? The winner

of the loser is out. The winner of that will play the loser of Texas A and M. Kentucky. The Gators have defeated the wolf back. Okay, it was an interesting thing in the Texas A and M Florida game that took place on Saturday. A deranged fan fan got over and was was at the from the seats, but next to the Florida dugout, screaming into the dugout at the at the at the players and the coach or whatever.

I don't know what he was screaming about. There's this video that was shown, and then the video was of him beating had scorted out, you know, obviously getting his you know, thirty seconds of fame on on TikTok and whatever else he's gonna post that on. But you know, somebody over there just making a scene got taken out of the game and Florida ended up losing. Florida ended up losing that game three to two, so they dropped into

the loser's bracket. But now they won, so they'll be back playing the loser of Kentucky and Texas A and M. And then last breaking news thing for me today, there was an article dropped by ESPN today that says Brandon Nayuk has told Jaden Daniels that the forty nine ers do not want him back. And you might be wondering why Jayden Daniels, like, why so there's a TikTok posted by Brandon Nyuk. You just mentioned TikTok, right, Brandon

Nayuk posted a TikTok. It was a FaceTime. It was a video of Brandon and I facetiming with Commander's quarterback Jadan Daniels right, and Jayden was showing him some Niners highlights of Ayuk, and Ayuk was kind of getting sentimental. He was like, well, they don't want me back and Jade Daniels response is that the truth? You know? Is that it? And he goes, yeah, you know, just a couple of as you guys having a

tough time. I don't have an issue with that. I'm just you know, look, Brandon auc has already made a good amount of money, but he'll some you know, he's a good player and he was a really good player for the Niners. For whatever reason, they don't need him or want him anymore. So he's gone. He'll he'll find a place to play if he's got skills, right, It's not like I'm still good but nobody wants me. You know, He'll he'll get picked up somewhere. We'll see what

happens there. Yeah. We were talking between the break off air about the over under number in the in the Boston Celtics game. I think you have some breaking news by on the number. I'm taking the over over two ten and a half. I thought that, you know, I took. I had a couple of unders in the first couple of games I didn't do I didn't do uh game three or I did Game two and three, I don't remember it. Anyways, I hit a couple of unders. But it's down

to two ten and a half. I think that the Celtics are gonna play well. I think the Mavericks are going to play well, and and I think they're gonna go over. So I didn't put a little ten dollar bet on the on the over to ten and a half. I'm allowed to do that, unlike that major league umpire who got kicked out of the league or who got suspended for doing stuff. It's funny though, an interesting uh.

You mentioned the Dan Patrick show. They you know, they do all these all these poles, and they put out they put out a poll on is it worse for a player to be caught gambling or or an official to be caught gambling official? And it was overwhelming officials people feel like how much? But that an umpire could really or an official could really influence a game? Well, I think I think the reason I say official instinctively is because players

they're still checked. There's still checks and balances through like you know, officials officially arrests the league now that now the actual sports books themselves are keeping track of things like this and strange activity. But I do think it's more impactful if officials are involved in it because it's it's not just affecting one team or one locker room. It's affecting multiple outcomes, multiple different franchises. Yeah. I think you saw that with the NBA scandal. Yeah, yeah, well

I just looked up the poll. With thirty three hundred votes, an official gambling was was considered worse by ninety point nine percent of the people voting. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot, people, is way worse, way worse, uh way way worse than than than a player game. To me, a player gambling, if they're gambling on something else, I have zero problem with it, right, I don't want them gambling

on their sport. But if you know, if, if, if, if an NFL player is gambling on the NBA, I have no issues with that, and there should nobody should have any issues with that. I do have issues with the NBA player, NFL players gambling on NFL sports, maybe even college, but more like more just your sport, your league. You can't, you know, you can't gamble on that. You just just stay away. There's no reason get out of it. If you don't. If you want to gamble on the NFL, then quit the NFL. See,

I see you see which do you think is a better situation? What he's thinking? Exactly it is? Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. All right, Okay, here's a couple months since I've got few more minutes. Jaylen Brown over under twenty four and a half points for him tonight. Ooh ooh, I think you said twenty four and a half twenty five. I say no, I say no, I say he lands in the twenty. He's averaging he's averaging twenty point eight in in the finals. Yeah,

so twenty three for the reg of the season. Yeah, yeah, I say no. You say, oh you go under right? Yeah? Oh. And this just came across the Dave Roberts is saying that Mookie Bets is expected miss roughly six to eight weeks. Crap, that's crap. My my wife was very upset when she when she saw what happened to him. She's a she's a huge Mookie fan. She made she made my my grandson hug her Mookie Bets bottle head wow to kind of try and feel better about the

whole thing. But yeah, six to eight weeks now they're saying on Mookie with a fractured hand. So and then you know, then the guy comes back from that, and how long before he's any good. That's that's a drag. It's a huge drag. It'll be interesting to see who they put in the leadoff spot. I don't you know, I don't know who goes up there and who plays shortstop. I mean, you lost your best player, you lost your shortstop. And people argue, well, show he's the

best player. Well show he doesn't play in the field. You know, if you want to argue that, show he's the best hitter. Go ahead, right, go yeah, go ahead. But right now, you know Mookie Bets as their shortstop, as their leadoff hitter, batting over three hundred, the whole deal. He's the MVP favorite. You lost your best player, and you've lost him for six to eight weeks. It'll be interesting to see how how the Dodgers hang on through through all of that. Do you

do you have any quick thoughts on the NHL Stanley Cup Finals? No, you know, I I've only watched pieces of it. I tend I tend to watch the Stanley Cup Final win. It gets towards you. If it gets to a game six or seven or whatever. This is game five. It's It's similar to the to the NBA. The Panthers went up three zero, the Oilers won a game, they're back in They're back in Carolina. Same same thing. If the if the Oilers can win this one, now

you got a series again, I might get reinterested in it. Quick fun fact, if the Panthers and Celtics both win the championships within the same week, it's likely that both titles could be going to Shamanad High School in Saint Louis because that's where Jason Tatum and Matthew ka Chuck shared Oh wow, education wow. So Matthew Kachuck and Jason Tatum'd that could be very cool. That could be very cool, very cool. All right, we're up against the

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Jacob Salez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Welcome back to in the ball Hand of Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jacob Salas my usual co host. Seververa is out for a couple of days. He'll be back later this week. I've got Kevin here working the board for me, and on the phone, we've got Kenzie Foller Quinn, the one of the new members of the University of Arizona Wakats Sports Hall of Fame, announced last week. Kenzie, welcome and congratulations on the honor. Thank you so much, appreciate it. It's

now you're You're already in a hall of fame. You're in the Pema County Sports Hall of Fame. You greg to high school career on top of a great career at Arizona. But how is this one different? Is it the same? Does it feel It obviously feels good, But what do you think

of this one? Yeah, you know, both very special obviously the different though, I feel like the Pima County Hall of Fame is more about I don't know, maybe just me in my city in Tucson and growing up here, going to high school, and of course playing in town at Arizona. So there was a lot of pride in that Hall of fame. And I have a lot of family members in that Hall of fame as well, so there was, you know, those emotional ties for me. As well.

But yeah, going into the Hall of fame where you choose to go to school very special. And you know, just look into class that I'm going in with. It's the staffed class, so very different, but both, I mean, I'm such it's such a big honor to go into each area. Well, and it should be. So let's go back to the very beginning, because you know, your whole family, I was reading your bio a bunch of family members or you know, Arizona grads and stuff like that.

Did they have to recruit you or were you coming to Arizona no matter who out of cdo technically, yes, they did have to hurt me, but also yes, I was coming no matter what. I committed really early it was you know, at the forefront of the early commits, if you will. It was like one of the first first fourteen year olds to verbal,

which is, you know, looking back crazy at the time. You know, now we have legislation or not legislation, but ruling to say that you have to be you know, your junior year to commit, which is how it should be, right. But whether I was four teen, whether I was sixteen, my answer still would have been the same. So she

answered your question. Yes, I was coming here no matter what. I did have some visits set up, you know in my time when I was young, and had to cancel all those visits because I ended up committing a little bit by accident and didn't really talk to my parents about it, just went in committed, came out of Code Candre's office and they were just kind of looking at me, going, why are you crying? And I was like, well, I committed and they were like, excuse me what.

It was just kind of a funny, funny way that I ended up committing. But yeah, even if it would have been two three years later, it would have been the same deal. So we just kind of got it over with earlier. Okay, Well when was he not at that time? Was he allowed to you know, recruit you, to pitch to you to I'm not pitch literally pitch, I mean to kind of come to and say,

you know, we want you to come to Arizona. When was the first time that you had that conversation with him and who did you have to engage him or was he able to say Kansui wantrot Arizona. Yeah, it was kind of tricky. I'm not sure what the rules were, but I was able to get mail from coaches when I was fourteen, so I was getting letters and questionnaires from you know, all the schools around the country and all the Pac twelve schools and everything, but you couldn't take official visits,

so they couldn't ask you to come on a visit. So they would kind of go about it where they would send you a letter or they send you the questionnaire, and then you had to take the initiative to call them and say, hey, I'd love to walk around your campus unofficial, and so that's what I did, and I just kind of weaseled my way into his office with a couple of ended up being a team hates later, christ and

Ariola and Leany Kurrea. We were all on the same unofficial and they went in and then I just thought it would be cool if I went into his office after. And I went in and was like, hey, I heard they committed. Can I commit too? And he was like excuse me, really? And I was like yeah. He's like, well, I've been waiting for you to say that, and I was like, Okay, let's do it. That's awesome. That's kind of how it went. It was a little bit strange and unorthodox, but yeah, a little backwards done.

How did your parents react to that? They had no idea it was going on. They were in the hallway with the other parents of my teammates, and like I said, I came out of Coach's office and I was, you know, my face was all spotchy because I was crying. I was so excited, and they were just looking at me, was concerned, going why are you crying? What's going on? What did you say? And so then I told had to tell them, well, I committed I'm going

to play here at Arizona. And so then they're like, well, you better call these other schools and cancel these un officials because we were getting ready to go to these other trips. Where else were you looking at? Where did you have a trip set up? I had lined up? Well, I had already taken a visit at Washington and and then I had scheduled UCLA and AFU. Okay, all right, well you weren't going to ASU. I can tell you I would have stopped you from going to ASU, So

we weren't going to let that happen. Well, so you know, as you were going through the rest of your high school career. Was there ever any doubt or anything like that. Did you ever second guess yourself over that about committing early, about commedting to Arizona. Yeah, No, I was happy to get over with. I obviously growing up in Tucson, like this was the school for me. I was ten years old when Jenny Finch was pitching and fell in love with softball, mostly because of Arizona and the success

that they had, and it was packed over bus. So you know the fact that I was able to, you know, get my commitment done and then I could kind of put my head down and go, Okay, this is my this is my goal, this is what I'm working for, and talk to TOAs Candre about what do I need to do to be ready and all those little things, you know, were put in motion so early after my freshman season, and so no, I was really happy to get it over with and just kind of focused on what was the next thing for me.

Right, we're talking to Kenzie Foller Quinn, one of the all time great pitchers at Arizona now on the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame. So, so you get to Arizona as a freshman, You've been seeing the program since, as you said, since you were a little girl, but now you're wearing the uniform. Tell us a little bit about, you know, your first days with the program. I guess I'm assuming you know in the fall, right when you you got to start fallballing that stuff. What was that

like for you? As again somebody who grew up here, you know, had idols like Jenny Finch. Did you ever have to just pinch yourself? Yeah? I remember our very first ball game looking at the lineup. I was starting pitcher batting force and I was going, okay, so yeah, that was my first pinch me, mom, was our first ball game, which, like you put on the uniform right then, and it's not, of course, you know, the real season, but you're getting on the

field and you're pitching against a team that's not your your own team. You're not doing it inner squad, you're doing it for real and then looking up and seeing your friends and family like this. It never, you know, got old, being able to have the support physically there every single game that I took the field, and just a little bit of pride like I was that young kid just you know, four years ago, sitting in the stands and watching these players and now I'm able to be that that player for the

next generation and give the autograph after the game. And I have so many pictures of girls who are in college now are just now graduating, of when they were ten years old and I was giving them an autograph. And so, you know, it's what it's all about in that inspiration, something that you can tangibly touch, and you can take a photo with an athlete and you know, stare up at the stare up at them and they look ten

feet tall and looks like they're throwing one hundred miles an hour. They're just larger than life, right, So I remember what that was like and being able to represent tooth Lin. It was just everything well at that and at that time it was you. It was the Wildcats and the Bruins, right a year in and year out. You're a freshman. Tell us about the first time you stepped to the mound against U. C. L A. And you know, in the regular season. Yeah, it was tough,

and it was so good. Obviously we were good too, but it was a battle from my freshman year to even you know, the last game that I remember pitching against them in my senior season. It's it's sad that that rivalry will be no more. You know. I hope that maybe they find a way to schedule, but I don't know. I really don't know how that's going to shake out. It's going to be a different era for sure, seeing the Wildcats not in the Pact twelve. I'm going to have to

form some new rivalries for sure. So so you throw a perfect game that year? Right? Oh? What what was that like? I don't remember it. I'm be honest. Come on, you throw a perfect game and you don't remember remember. I know you threw a whole bunch of them in high school, but this one had wow? Okay, all right, well, all right, okay, I mean I bet they remember it. A holy hicck that that. I mean again, incredible freshman year. Right,

you're an All America and All American your sophomore year. I know you had some injury issues, but you look back on your career and now, you know, be named to the Hall of Fame. What you know, what are the what are the things you think about? Right? Some of the whether it's a specific game or a memory, or a player or coaches or just a feeling, you know what do you think about when you think about your softball career at Arizona. Oh, that's a heavy question, you know.

I always say I kind of recognize the fact that my career in college was a little bit backwards and just flipped in terms of the beginning. In the end, I feel like my beginning was how most athletes hope to end their career. And obviously I had to medically retire, wasn't able, wasn't able to finish out my last senior season due to injury. But you have my freshman and sophomore year obviously saw my majority of my success, and I

had a lot of innings. If you look at the stats, I was pitching a lot, and you don't see peers pitch that much anymore, right, So, I don't know, it's it's there's so much to be proud of, Yes, some things, you know, what if this goes differently here and that there, who knows, But you can't look at it that

way. I there's so much that, so much good that came out of me being a Wildcat, you know, talked about the representation of playing in Tucson, meeting my best friends, my teammates, whipping bridesmaids and my wedding met my husband who played football and still able to stay around the program. And I work in in Arizona Athletics and so Arizona has been very good to me. There's not much complain I can I can have about my time as

a weldcut well. And then you know, you're you're one of the lucky ones, right because a lot of people don't don't have you know, the lifelong thing with that. You know, you're starting from when you were a little kid, and you know, you get to you know, you get to go there, you get to play there, and then you get to you get to stay there. When you think about softball as a whole, you know, we've talked about this, uh you know when we talk to

you as in your your work as an ESPN announcer. Softball now today it's different right from when from when you were when you were playing the nil picture and all that kind of stuff. What do you still treasure about the what do you still like about the game today and what don't you like about it right now? Well, I think this college sports as a whole is different right even today into the softball news today, the player of the year.

Nigerie Cannedy, who is at Stanford last two seasons, is now in the transfer portal and where is she going to go? So you just kind of touched on it a second talking about the loyalty and you know, the long, the lifelong relationship that you have with the school. It's kind of a dying breed right now. It's very interesting to see how things are shaking out. And you know, it's interesting for me now I'm in my thirties, but looking back as myself as a player, I have a completely different head

on my shoulders now as I did then. And I'm so thankful that I have. I've had the ability to stick with one school and have that relationship because it's not just the four year relationship, it's the lifelong relationship. And I feel like that's something that maybe our athletes don't have sight of right now, because again, they're navigating waters that I didn't have to navigate with right with Nil and you know, the things that you can do that I just

wasn't able to do. Right I couldn't even get a bagel for free, it's a breakfast. It was it was you as an extra benefit to have a bagelad of breakfast. So it's it's different now. But if one thing I could tell our athletes that are navigating this NIL is obviously, yes, we want you to get your bags. It's important. I wasn't able to do that. We were scholarship or nothing. And it's a lifelong it's a

lifelong thing. It's something that you can touch on when you're thirty, forty, fifty, sixty years old and you're going to be a part of that program for life, and there's so many benefits that come with that. So it's interesting to see these athletes kind of jump around in college sports right now. It's a different era for sure, and you know, I'm what I've loved to have been able to dive into NIL. Yeah, I've of course done a little something there being from Tucson, but you know, I'm very

thankful to be an athlete of the era that I was in. Well you were, again, you know, one of the best ones. So we do appreciate what you've done here that you know that you've stuck around Like I'm a local, right, I love it when somebody grows up here, loves it here, stay here and continues to be committed and does good things, and then you've done that, so we do appreciate that. Oh, thank

you. Yeah, two sons my home. I choose to live in Tucson, you know, born here, raised here, and not gone anywhere, that's for sure. Thank you appreciate that. All right. Well, Kensei Foller Quinn, thank you so much for joining us, and congratulations again. The when's the ones like the ceremony and all that stuff? Have they told me that great question? It is the day before the first football game of

the years. Okay, all right, the celebration will be like Atlasloma, I believe, and then they will recognize of all of us at the football game. So let's get a sold out crowd so we can wave to all of you in the same all right, we'll do that. Kensie, thank you so much again. We'll be in touch. We appreciate it. And congratulations anytime. Thanks so much. It's Kenzie Foller Quinn, one of the new members of the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame. One of the great pitchers

here. Again, unfortunate end of her career with some with medical issues, but man, for those first couple of years she was as good as they get and has there her way into the Hall of Fame. So hey, stick around. We're going to come back with our last segment. Five two zero four one six, seventy four forty If you want to give us a call, it's Kevin's last segment. If you want to say goodbye to Kevin, or you find I don't know, maybe tell him to hit the road.

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This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Welcome back down on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jacob Zalez. Steve Rivera is out today. I do have Kevin here for his last segment of his Eye on the Ball career. Kevin wait thing man only heck dono bittersweet. I'm excited to move to Phoenix. Yeah, I'm excited to not be able to so come in here and join you. Steve all every week.

Well, you've done a great job. I've loved you and we've had you on a bunch today because Steve's gone, So do appreciate your, uh, your chipping in on this on this show. So I told you Afy, I wanted to bring this up because we've talked about it before and we had a situation again over the weekend. And I just don't want people to think we're, you know, we're ignoring this right in in a in a in an in an o w NBA game a couple of days ago, Kaylen Clark

was filed hard by by Angel Reese. Uh, we know the rivalry that they've had since college. You know, a lot of a lot of stuff going on even you know to today. Uh, it was a it was a it was a foul that was ultimately considered a flagrant against Angel Reese. She was trying to block a shot that you know, Caitlin Clark was going down the lane, tried to block it from behind when she when she swiped at the ball, she caught her on the side of the head. That's

an automatic, an automatic flagrant. I'll just remind everybody I did say and I and I continue to believe this is a non event. Right If it wasn't Caitlin Clark and and and Angel Reese, nobody would be saying anything. There's people out there who you know, who want to say, oh, you know, she she she did that because you know, she's trying to hurt k Caitlin Clark. No, I said, when when this thing happened, where where she got or Kaitlyn Clark got knocked down by the other player,

not in the course of a play. I said, that was that was not? That was unnecessary? And I thought I thought the player should have been suspended on this one. And I said at the time, look, if she's going down the lane and there's a hard foul, that's part of the game, and it is and this was Do I think angel Reese would have taken that same swipe on another player? I don't know, but I do know that she's going to take that on Kaitlyn Clark every time.

She wants Kate and Clark to know I'm here. I'm okay with that. I got I got one name that I'll throw out at you if you're if you're wondering, was that was that reasonable? Was it not? Was it? Was it something that angel Reich should be get in trouble for Bill lanebeer guy, for the you know, the the Detroit Pistons. He assaulted people. You know, we're talking in the eighties. He assaulted people. I

know, you know that game, that's not the game anymore. But there were some assaults that took place back back in the day, right and you know if but all of it was in the course of most of it, I guess was in the course of a game. Somebody comes down the lane, you're gonna let them know that they can't do that. And that's where I saw this ass I said, you know, if Caitlin Clarks can go down the lane, somebody's gonna throw her an elbow, put a forearm in

her chest, whatever. That's part of the game. And if you get away with it, you get away with it. And if you get caught, you get a file. Angel Rees got caught. It was a flagrant. It was clarly fragrant. Do I think Angelice was trying to elbow her in the head? No, I think she was trying to block the shot. And she was really trying harder to block the shot because it was Caitlin

Clark And I'm okay with that. And when you watch the clip, her eyes Inee's eyes never leave the basketball, right, like I think, and I think we've seen it in the NBA sometimes when players take liberties and try to make it seem like they're looking for the ball. You could tell their targets exactly. They always get that one little spatial peak, right, got to know where the person is. I'm going to try to hit somebody. Yeah, but her eyes never left the basketball. That was a basketball played.

Wasn't unfortunate? Yes? Is it a clear flagrant? Yes? Should she be suspended? No? And to her credit Kaling Clark said, it was a basketball play, you know, and she's getting used to it. I mean, that's how she's going to be treated. They said, that's how she's gonna be treated. Other players said that's how she's going to be treated. And she is getting treated like that. And there's no problem with that if all of that is in the course of the game, if somebody's

fought. You know, she had she had a three point shot the other day where you know, she went up, she took the shot, and and and and her defender put a farm in her chest and knocked her down. Guess what, that's a foul. She gets it, she makes a shot, she gets a free throw. That's that's it. But it wasn't like she you know, she took the shot and came down and then she

blindsided her something. Those things are going to happen. It's those things are okay as part of the game, and I just hope that people realize, you know, so, you know, I think it was. I think it was. Aaron Tauris, who was on our show Friday, said there's people trying to use Kaitlin Clark is a political pawn. Did you see that. I do believe think it was, And that's true. There's some people are trying to do that. They're trying to make it a racial thing.

Is it a racial thing? Maybe a little go through Twitter just now across my feet Robert RG three, uh yeah somewhere tweet yesterday when he said Kaylin Clark the Angels are being used in a political way. That is not fair to either athlete ball right. Do I think that there's some racial aspect to it? Yes, I do, because I think ra Angelice's basically said,

look, we're not getting the attention that she's getting. Well, of course you're not, because you can't hear a three pointer like she can't, and that's why also shoots like from the right. So yes, maybe there's a there, There is some of that in there. I'm not gonna I'm not

gonna deny that there's there's not some of that in there. But on the other hand, if they're playing the game and they're in their their rivals and they see themselves as rivals and they compete and they compete hard, and there's files and things like that, I got no problem with it. And I didn't have a problem with this, with this thing that I that I the first headline I saw was Angel flag called for a flagrant on Kaitlin Clark, and I'm like, what now, you know, I'm like, what now?

I think we're looking for the video when it was fine. Yeah, Cheryl Swoops had a great quote. She was on Gilbertarinas's podcast Yeah recently and she said, it's it's the clip they want to post because they're you know, they're gonna get all the interactions because it's Kaitlin Clark. But ultimately she got in the head of course. But should it be a flagrant? Yes? But can we keep playing basketball? Yes? And that's what that's what

it's really about. I think this has been blown and it will continue to be in the social media environment, and I think you know, you see with with with I'm gonna use the word frail, but I mean that in terms of just a physical descriptor of not being bulky mostcularly. You know, you saw something similar with Steph Curry. We started to pop off in the

NBA. He started getting a lot of form, a lot of shoves, a lot of hard screens, because you need to knock him out of his rhythm within the flow of the within the flow of the game, and if it's always done in the flow of the game, then it's done. So I was okay with it. I just wanted to throw that out there because we had talked about it before and that was my opinion. And exactly what

I said is what I still believe. If if they're gonna be if they're gonna make it hard for her in the course of the game, and you're gonna say you come down the lane, get ready, you know, get ready to catch something, I'm good with that, all right, Enough of that. Rory McElroy has issued a statement about why he's not going to play. I know we talked about him in Breaking News. His quote, I've shown my resilience over and over again, over and over again in the last

seventeen years, and I will again. I'm going to take a few weeks away from the game to process everything and build myself back up for my defense of the Genesis Scottish Open and the Open at Royal True. So he's gonna take some time out. I would I would have quick cough. If I had done what he did, I would have taken my clubs. I'd have gone to a dumpster and put him in the dumpster and said that's it.

I'm never playing again. You know, I mean these guys, you know, especially in golf, it's such an individual things like you don't have a teammate that you can put your you know, who can come up and you know, put an arm around you and say, hey, you know it's going to be okay. He had to go back to his hotel room. Well, not take back. He went back to his private jet and went

home. But you know, I liked worry do I like what he did yesterday bye by not ever congratulating Bryson to Shambo and just leaving, not not doing the media stuff. No, I'm unhappy that he did all that. I think it's I think it's bad for his for his look. But he did it, so you know, he's not the first one to do that, and so you know he'll I think he'll lands for it at some point, you know, next press conference when if that's in three weeks at the

Scottish Open, he'll probably come and say, Okay, I'm better. Now, here's you know, congratulations to Bryson and Shambo. Maybe he'll issue a statement, you know, to that effect. Anyway, So and he We've talked about this off the air a little bit, but I wanted to know if you had any thoughts about Charles Barkley. H And I don't think that after next season, after the last season of Inside the NBA, he will be off of television. I'll miss him. I'll miss him. I like

I you know, I'm entertained by by Inside the NBA. You know, I'll watch that's a post game show I watch. I watch almost no other post game show. That's the post game show that I actually look forward to more than some regular season an NBA game. Right there are some games that I'm not as interested in watching. Uh. And then I learned it's on T n T it's a Tuesday or Thursday, and I'm like, oh, I gotta watch them. Four, I gotta watch the half, and I

gotta watch those four guys. Those four guys you know, Shaq, Kenny Smith, Charles and then Ernie Johnson. They're fun to watch. I love I love Ernie Johnson's role. He let he lets these guys go at it and then he corrals them sometimes and and it's a it's always fun to watch. Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. Yeah, like your show. I'm gonna miss Robert. I'm gonna miss Bark next year. He's great. I like him and Shack when

they start going at each other having fun. Great show. And one announcer I wish would go away next year is Doris Burke on ESPN. Wow. Woman, she can ruin a basketball in any game. She needs some damn speech therapy so everything she comes out doesn't sound like an s's horrible. Listen to her guys just in their shies and they're pasture bush and nobody speaks like that and get the job and announcing she's terrible and all right. I hope

they get rid of her next year. I knew every time I'm watching the Celtics, they're my team. Every time I'm watching the game, every time she starts speaking I hit the mute button. All right, Well, I guess you feel strongly about that, but I agree with you, Barkley. He's a lot of fun. I like, you know, I love his interviews outside of you know, inside the NBA when he's on down you know, some of those shows Dan Patrick, he's on there quite a bit and

you just know he's gonna talk. He just he's like, this is why I am, and I'm just gonna say what I'm gonna say exactly, and that's it. Yeah, appreciated, Robert, Thanks a bunch, and we'll see what we can do about Doris Burg. All right. You know you don't have any issue with that. I don't know. Yeah, here's a funny thing though, honestly, you don't like Regie Miller. He kind of

annoys me. Everything's kind of I can't do what does Henny his reactions, he's very like like you know, and he's very on the fence a lot like, oh, I don't know. He kind of does that Tony romo thing. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I couldn't stand Reggie Miller because I saw I saw him, you know, finish his career at U C. L A and he and Walt Hazard were just two big, giant, steaming piles of you know what, and they fed off

of each other. And I just thought he was a complete jerk. Even during a lot, during a lot to his NBA career, he did the choke thing and you know, stuff like that. I've come to like him as an announcer. Yeah. And I actually stopped and talked to him once at a at a regional. You know, we're passing each other in the hallway, said hey, Reggie, you know, you know, love the stuff, and we talk and he talked to me and stuff, and he was very friendly, and I I like him. I feel like he's he's

a guy who's a really good player. He uses that experience to talk about how other guys can be good players, right or I feel like he kind of tells us what a really good player would think of this thing that's happened or that thing that's happened. And I like that. So I like him. Yeah, I like him for that. I mean, I still don't, you know, appreciate what he did at UCLA because he was a big, big, big butt head. But I've liked him, and he's another

guy that Dan Patrick gets on all the time. I love the conversations that that they have. Uh, there are a lot of times yeah, exactly, and I feel like yeah, and I feel like he's become really friendly in that way. And he was a big giant jerk coming out of college. Me not to college. He was like, I'm like this guy, they're gonna kill him in the NBA because they're not gonna like him. Yeah, I will say that I don't have any issue with him the regimenter of

the person. It does. I just don't. I think. I think sometimes his announcing of actual play by play can be a little literal, like sometimes I'm like, yes, Reggie, that is exactly what I just watched, thank you. But he does get peeks behind the curtain, like you said, which will be pretty interesting. Sometimes he's not all bad. But I was saying, of my least favorite announcers, I'm surprised that Thorsburk he really doesn't like her to get that, I know, thankfully a nice call

by Robert. So anyways, Uh no, uh, for the most part. But you know, getting back to getting back to Barkley, you know, I like that show and I'm with you. You know, there's sometimes the game is ending, I'm like, okay, I'll watch this to see, you know, to catch a little bit of the post game show. I like those guys. I like that, you know, when they do you know, the the final four, uh and the and the and the inc A tournament stuff. I think they're very good at what they do.

They're probably the best. Now I'm probably a little young to be saying this, but I would assume that it's fair to say they're the best desk team of any sports in a while, I'd have I'd have a hard time trying to think of a better one. You know. Greg Gumble is a guy that I liked when he was doing n C double A tournament. I like him a lot because I had some drinks with him one time, so he

was a lot of fun. I have. I did like him. I could probably go way back to, you know, some of the NFL uh uh shows, all the way back to you know, Brent Musburger and those kinds of guys. But yeah, I mean, they're again entertaining, but you also learn stuff when you watch them. You feel like you find out what I just saw and maybe something that I missed, And it feels like

everything you said about Reggie Miller with Pigs behind the curtain. They do times ted right between Shack's experience, Chuck's experience, Kenny's experience, and there he's just lifetime of watching basketball exactly exactly. So I think it was the guys are good. Well I'll miss him, Yeah, I'll definitely miss We just didn't see who they come up with. Man, I hope it's not Draymond

Green or one of those guys. I think he was gonna run that Tuesday crew, right, Adam left, Coo kandas Parker and then fill in. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, all right. Kevin, hey man, thanks a bunch for all the time you've spent here. I know, uh, you know, we haven't paid you a cent, but I hope you hope you had a good time. I hope you learned something. Appreciate it all right, Thanks again, thanks for being here. We'll be back tomorrow with some great guests, so be sure to come back tomorrow.