Dreamy Live. I mean, I heart Radio WI. This is High on the Ball with Steve Barbara and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Yeah, we're paying the neck. Chris here with Chris got me talking that Chris got me talking the immaculate grid and I didn't. I couldn't peel away. You have breaking news. I think we do. Let's see if we
do this High on the Ball breaking News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, we're gonna we're gonna start with the bad stuff first because we always do. And there's some there's some cool stuff. But another Northwestern football lawsuit a quarterback who played for them back in the twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen timeframe. This is the fourth lawsuit. Now. The other three lawsuits are filed by have been filed by players who are twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two.
So now we've got lawsuits involving players from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty two. Then there's another pending lawsuits where there's like a dozen guys have signed on to that one with that famous civil rights attorney Ben Crump. So this is this thing's just exploding. This one's bad. I've read an athletics story and all the details said the assistant coaches were involved in it. It doesn't name any of them, but it specifically says that you know, there were these coaches,
and I know they'll get to their names. They've got corroboration from a couple of other players, a couple of new details about other hazing. So new types of hazing have gotten very creative, and so it's, uh, it just it just keeps going. I mean, details of players running around with masks on going room to room to haze guys and stuff like that. Just and this is a reputable university allegedly some smart people going at the smart
school. Smart school. Yeah, not surprising. The thing that I was surprised about Jay was over the weekend, we have all these conferences doing their media days, and it didn't really come up at other places. And then I read a story today or last night on the in the La Times about this because I guess some people that I asked some coaches about it, because UCLA kind of went through this under the Mora regime, and how they settled it out of court or whatever. And so so, like I said,
before, you know what happens, you just know it does. It just didn't pop up at Northwestern. You have bullies being bullies wherever and acting stupid wherever, and so so there we are. But again to your point from last week or the week before, they said that didn't happen. Yeah, but the entire football team said it didn't happen. A really interesting take by the by this player, this quarterback. He said, there's a quote in
the Athletic and I think he had a press conference something like that. He said, we were all victims. I want to make that clear, no matter what role, if you were being hazed or on the perpetrating side, it was a culture that you had to find a position within. And for some guys that's where their identity was. But they are just as much victims
as us talking about them. How do you how do you get away from that when you're in the middle of it and you don't want to be a part of it, right, Well, you're you're gonna be the You're either gonna be hazed or do the hazing, right And that it was just that was the culture and you were, you were in it, or just get the hell out. And you don't want that because you're going to school out of stallship and you can't and you can't get out of it. So um
so man, crazy crazy stuff. So that that you know, more to come. I'm sure on that one. All right, some fun stuff. First of all, college basketball Kansas and North Carolina home and home series signs for the twenty four, twenty five, twenty six seasons. Blue bloods. Did they take Arizona and Duke's que I mean, did they know they Well, it's good to see that. I love good to see that because you Arizona Duke are gonna do it this year. I might go to the game.
I'm trying to try to go. I hadn't. I may been there. I've been to the building and inside because Arizona played in Raleigh. I went to see it. So I want to be before I die. I probably try to do that. Um, but I'll try. I'm trying. I didn't. I you know, when my daughter was you know, at Duke, I did go visitor and we went to the building, didn't go inside. I'm like that's very no, no, no, exactly, it's
very cozy small ash Uh. It's like, but you know, I'm sure it's crazy and crazy, but to me still and you've been there, back court to me is the best. Yeah, because it's gonna collapse on you at the moment, it's gonna start on fire with you in the building. But it's like, it's like after all those years of going to Dodger Stadium,
and then I went to Camden Yards and it was the first. It was one of the first of those little yeah, you know, footprints st I was like, dang, daddy, that's a little that's a little place that I got the same feeling about. Uh, fenway, I felt that way. I don't I'm not a big I was back, but I went to Chicago, went to Wrigley and I'm thinking this is the magic. Maybe see this is me being me. But I don't know. Maybe I just didn't get involved enough. So anyways, Kansas and North Carolina, i'd like
to I'm gonna say, I'm I don't know if it's true. I'm gonna say, you're taking a queue from Duke in Arizona play Home and Home among quote unquote blue bloods. It is, well, that's true. It's gonna be bloods all right, um uh. ESPN is announced that the first college game Day it's gonna be at the North Carolina South Carolina game on September two, on Saturday. It'll be at South Carolina. No, you can tell that the oh no, the game, no, I take back. The
game is in Charlotte. So it's not in either campus, but it's in Charlotte. It's a neutral site game between North Carolina South Carolina. And that's what game day will be. And in a big game on Fox, the Big Game they call it Big Game. Yeah, Big Neon Big New is gonna be Colorado and TCU. H so you know that the first week is not two glamorous in terms of matchups, but but it should be fun. TCU and TCU last year's runner up, right, and this is a good
this is a good rivalry game Ruth Carolina, South Carolina. So yeah, it'll be from But you know we're talking football, Steve, We're talking freaking football, which I'm excited about. Um, here's a kind of a goofy once the Louisville and Miami who will who are both in the in the ACC and so they play each other and come up with a trophy, a new trophy, the the Schnellenberger Trophy. After after a Norm Schnellenberger, it's a pair of his boots that have been made into a bronze. Then in control.
That's cool that they're gonna that's gonna exchange for uh for the for the game. Schnellenberger on the trophy. Sow the Schnellenberger coach in Miami from nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty three when they won the national championship. Then he's coach from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety four. At there's a whole new trophy out there. Um, A couple of a couple of tough things going
on. Well, first, I know I haven't seen the video of this, but UH an ESPN UH analyst who was on the field of doing soccer Shota Hislop. I guess he passed out right there on yeah side. Apparently he's doing okay. I haven't I've been able to go deep into it to find out if they said what it was, but scary, it was scary, and and he's okay, yeah, he was just just through a little second start wabbly and then fails on his face, right. Um a tough
thing on Naheim Hines, running back for Boston Boston Buffalo. Um had had a season INDI knee injury. Off the field. He was and if you read this, he was on a jet ski and somebody rammed him. Well I didn't. He busted up his knee and he's out for the year. I just wonder if a jet ski is kind of like you shouldn't be. I mean, jet skis you got just really screw it up to get into
anticipate anybody bumping into you, right right. And they said he was still, he wasn't, he wasn't moving, and some guy just rammed him and he apparently it was not a dolphin guy. Was it dophin Pictriots guy? Um but rammed him and uh, and he's out for the year. And you know, and then that goes to that whole conversation, the thing going on about running backs and you know, okay, well we'll just go get another one. You said that they you saw that they had a meeting,
they had a meeting. Anything, what's it gonna solve? Right? You know, there's nothing. There's nothing in you know, the collective bargaining or anything like that that they can say, well, you're a running back, we'll do this right. Look, you know, unfortunately the position is what it is. Those sixteen million dollars chicks are still gonna catch. Right. Saw that Josh Jacobs, the running back from uh from the Raiders, who got got a franchise tag but hasn't signed his tag. He left, he
left. They said he was seeing gay in Vegas, getting on a plane and leaving Vegas instead of going to camp. And so, uh so there's a you know, and then the uh sae Quon Barkley's you know, he has talked about whether or not he hold out, and it's like, how did that go for Leveon Bell? Right, there's no other profession, no other profession that they'll come across. Well, they'll make this kind of money, right, and good luck with that. You know. Se Quon Bartley's
franchise tag contract is ten million dollars. You hold out, you're never getting the ten million dollars. You're not going to make that up in a later contract. No, you're not. In fact, you know again, ask Levion Bell how it went for him. He was apologizing to Pittsburgh fans a couple of weeks ago. Staying I never should have I never should have laughed. You know his career. You know what it's going right in the No, it is, it is what it is that I think everyone has to
deal with that. It's like it's like, uh, you should say this. I don't know if you do, but um, It's like when I worked for Gannette for years and people, you know, they shut down the door doors after twenty three years from me. I never pooh pooed him. They took care of me for twenty three years. I mean, I have to move on because guess what, I had no choice, no choice. I'm not gonna do nothing. They took care of me. Blah blah blah. And people just kind of like you say, blah blah blah. Well,
it is what it is. You have to you have to move on, right, you do you do? You know? Look, I'm signing a ten million dollar contract. I'm signing it. I'm gonna play. And if if I got another contract next you, I'm signing them. Sure, you make the best to make the best of it as money as much as you can. I did see a somebody did a pole and had um uh Jehan Robinson as the best odds to win Lookie of the Year. Probably yeah, yeah, probably all right. We talked last week about the Vikings wide
receiver Jordan Addison, who got busted going on forty miles an hour. He was saying, he said, we got a call. Go go, let's take this call. H you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey, this is John Show calling and say hey to Steve Riverat how you guys, did you hear from you? How are you doing? Good? Man? Listen, you know, just listening to a little bit of I'd kind of been popping in and out. I got you know, my work hours changed. But listening to you guys talk, I mean, Dave Hkey
sure doesn't deserve a lot of credit. And I don't think a lot of people have talked about the hires that he's made, the job that they've done. But listening to jet Fish, listen to how he talks, like, you can tell he gets it. You look at who they're bringing in like for speaking purposes, right, he has the NFL with the connections to sell of these kids, and that makes a big difference, I think you because he's got the right coaching staff actually, and then I'll take it a step
further. The strength and conditioning folks that we got from Alabama seems to be, uh, you know, as good as it kids or just what we're getting out of kids and the buying that we seem to be getting from these kids. And what I'm watching social media was yeah, you know, we uh, we've been we've been talking about how you know, he's he's come
in as the he's the he's offensive play caller. We're not gonna, you know, dance around that, but he's he's become he had taken on more of the CEO world than really any coach since all the way back to maybe Dick Tomy, right, maybe Macavic because he was just be controlling, but you know, the ceo aspect of being a football around here. I know that word. I hear you, I hear I didn't mean to say it,
but I I'll bleep it out of the podcast right up there. We got we got one of our colors colors last week because bumbling, So I guess we might have to go and go that way with it. Yeah, it is what it is. But like you got a guy that actually but see the thing is is they to bring back the alumni but to invest in talking and like keeping the community involved. You know, I don't think the Tucson realizes what they have yet because he year two and he's gonna leave if
we don't support the program. Yeah, now, because people are seeing we've got now we've got NFL caliber players on our roster, we've got the best somebody Area said that we've got the best lineman in the conference in on our roster. Win was the last time anybody said that about it I was on a football on any level. Yeah, I don't remember in a while.
Now, Well, we'll see how We'll see how much support if they if there's a nice attendance bump this year, right because it started to you know, they got a few good crowds last year, but now you got to
get a consistent least. We'll see what happens with that this year. It's fair, you know, it's kind of the same prime yours have though you only have thirty five thousand diehard, right if everybody else comes from somewhere else, and you know, there's always a complaint either the games are too late, these games are too hot, a complaint, you know, instead of people just showing up and shown out and buying in knowing that that's actually how
you help to build a winner. Yeah, you know, it's a proved me the prowly fan base allow at least for not for the fan base, but for the extras that live here that have other things that they want to do at their time, like go for a bike ride. You know what I mean? Exactly exactly, Thanks John, We appreciate it. We gotta go. Thanks. Hey, before, do you have you more? I have a quick thing. We'll just real quick. This is Jordan Addison.
He said his dog was having an emergency. That's why he was going four hundred forty. And there's a dog with him, the dog Collins from sumwhere. But dogs breaking it. I gotta go to the hospital. All right, I'll bring it out. Money up later. Okay, let's let's take our next break. We're gonna be back. James Prepia of the of the Oregonian Well talk to him about his conversation with George Clappoff during the press conference
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Sports fourteen. Cupie on Steve Rivera. He's Jackins. Also now on the phone, we have the intrepid James Crepia from your Oregonian. He did a fantastic job last week. Change. I do appreciate it, guys. Uh, what do you think? Honestly it really was that I wasn't planning for the response that was generated. What do you not how I entered the day? What do you think he means by intrepid, they're James not even I don't think he knows what that means. What do you think it means?
Oh? I just think that, Uh, folks have I think if if there's a silver lining too conference realignment and they got the seemingly endless discussion that it is, Yeah, I think that uh, whatever whatever attention that that has brought that reporters like myself who just happened to uh uh not just do a whole lot of talking, but do some listening and just do our jobs. You know, the whole idea of listening and following up. You are
silver aligning to all this. But uh, if people doing their jobs and and uh doing them doing them well, uh it generates a little bit of appreciation, Well, then hey, I'll take it. Well, It's funny when when Kliakoff talked about, well, we're gonna do this and and go away from the announcement, and I'm thinking, oh, and then I'm thinking you're probably I think that Mike Back, give me that Mike Back is I
got to ask another question? Yeah, I just say I was. I mean, as far as I was concerned, Um, I was entering the day quite honestly, with a lot of major questions for George in that setting, because without an announcement and without details, it wasn't like what what level of specificity was anyone going to ask that he was going to suddenly provide some unbelievable depth of response. And I don't mean that for anybody. I don't
mean just because oh it's George or something like that. It's not personal. I'm saying like they didn't have a deal to announce, and you knew that going in, so any question you were going to ask about it, about specifics of it, about money, about expansion, about anything with it. It wasn't going to be like, oh, well, funny should ask. Now that we're in the room and there's several hundred people here and we're a broadcasting this live I'm back to old network. Thank thanks for asking allow me
to wait into the weed. Yeah, exactly, so you knew that it wasn't part of it, So I said, I really wasn't planning to ask much. The one thing I did was about in general about expansion candidates,
and that's because I'm working on a story to that effect. Right. But then when yeah, he provided the response that he did to I believe it was Richard Johnson of the Sports Illustrative we pursus question regarding a deal and whatnot and and said, yeah, we're not announcing something today on purpose in order to focus on football. Yeah. I don't think I was alone by any stretch of the imagination among people in the room or people watching at home.
It's that wait on purpose? What um? So you know, I I say, if it weren't me, I hope whoever would have gotten the last question at that point naturally would have followed up on that point. So, yeah, it happened to be me in that moment. And okay, but again, I hope whoever would have would have gotten that they put it on set because I think it captured a lot of people's attention and naturally was the topic that everyone was paying attention to for the better part of the last year.
So I to me, I just did my job and asked the question that everybody wanted an answer to. So a couple of days removed from that now in that little change, as you said, where he said, you know, we didn't we didn't announce it on purpose because when I'm focused on football. He said, well, does that mean the deal is done? And you're just not telling us what's the deal? So what do you think of that whole exchange? A few days later? Now, did it mean
anything? What do you think about it? I don't. I don't think they had some I don't believe they had something done that they're just holding off on. Uh, because rightly they could have done it today, right if that were the case. And then I think that something probably would have leaked by now if they were doing it tomorrow. So I don't think something is
completely done. That said, let's call it like I think people's reaction, particularly at the time on Friday, wash, I haven't said the people there at the time, you know, the hour. So thereafter I went, look, told us what this is a little bit like He didn't deny that something might be done. I know, I don't think that it was, and I think it just happened to me speak and that's okay. But let's
also be like totally cards on the table here. If if an analogous situation, maybe not specific to a media deal and the existential kind of nature of it that it is, but if a similar situation played out in almost any other league in college sports, if a commissioner had said such a thing, I don't believe the initial reaction would have been the same that it was of
towards staying it on Friday. I think if a different commissioner said it regarding virtually anything else and it became like, well, you know, I think you're reading a little too much into it, you know, and it's you know, I think that some people's reaction would have been of any other almost any other commissioner would have been like, oh boy, what a what a sly move there to kind of just like plant that seed, you know,
say without saying it, you know, what have you. But because of the fervor, both the natural and artificially manufactured, to be quite honest, that this media deal conversation has generated over the last year, I think that that is you know, people's preconceived notions one way or the other, if one's going to get down, the one's not going to get done, that someone's going to leave, that no one's gonna leave, that it's going to
be ahead or behind of other leagues or whatever. I think that is what drove a lot of the response. So in terms of your question though, of like what do I think now a couple of days later, No, I don't think a deal was absolutely done and that it was some sly move. That's that. I don't think it was like a crime against humanity for the commissioner possibly misspeak insofar as possibly saying something that could be like an implication
that you may not have necessarily entered the day intending to make right. You know, like I do think a deal is going to get done. I don't think it was already done, but I do think a deal is going to get done. And in terms of where it ranks relatives everyone else, I have no idea. But if it was that awful, it was that bad. I think that schools who are a school in particular who still could leave, may very well left already that plain and obvious that a deal was
that a forthcoming deal is going to be that below value. So time will tell. But no, and in terms of that exchange, and yes, it just happened to be you know, me asking the follow up question. Again, it wasn't personal. Yeah, I don't think it. I don't think it was being sly with it. I think you may have just happened to say something that a lot of people, uh, you know, their
ears worked up very quickly in terms of what that implied. So so I have a friend we both have with this friend who listens to us uh daily and he says that he travels a lot, so he's on the East coast a lot. He says, people think that the PAC twelve is gonna is going to disband and it's just kind of an only a matter of time blah blah blah, and it's and it says, well, that's not the feeling
in the house. Do you think that the national side of it has this different perception that are people who are in the house, like guys like you who report on the day to day of the PAC twelve. Yeah, And to be fair, I don't think it's merely a national perception versus regional perception issue. I don't. I mean, look, six six eight months ago, I think there are a lot of people in this league who felt a lot less optimistic than they do today. So I don't think it's merely that
way. But I think even to this day, I think there are plenty of folks locally within the PAC twelve. Maybe not you know, on the confert office per se, but locally in terms of the campus level, and multiple campuses, by the way, one campus thing, who firmly believe in college athletics. Again, not just in this league even for that matter,
that further consolidation is going to happen in the FPS right now. Whether or not that happens in the next two years, or whether that happens ten or twelve or fifteen years from now, again I mean a long enough timeline, we'll see. But I do think further consolidation will happen, and I think a lot of the I not just think, I know there are people on local campuses, let alone in conference offices who believe that that will continue.
What slows the rate of that consolidation is grants of rights and contract law, long term contracts, and by long term, I mean you know, more than the day today you know, the things that prevent freedom of movement by grants of rights is what prevents that. That's what you're seeing play out right now in real time with the ACC. If it weren't for that, how many teams be ACC. You have the split, the implied split out there the report, it's split out there where it's nearly half and a half.
Yeah, and it seems like there's an awfully, awfully iron clad grant of rights prevents the half that's a little uneasy these days from exploring other options for the next decade or so. And yes, those are the things that prevent consolidation, is grants of rights and long term contracts. So, James, are four schools that, in my mind get are getting talked about the most in terms of something happening with them. Arizona, Colorado down here, and
then Washington and Oregon up there. What's the general Do you have a sense of the general mood around Oregon, the fan base, the administration, just people around the program about what they ultimately want to see happen, first in the short term with currently what's going on in the back twelve and then as you say, long term when we I'm like you, I fully expect, I know, the round of realignment probably in five years, after all these
new TV deals and random rights have been signed start to come to start to end. I think it's at that time. But what do you have a sense of what people want to happen around Oregon. I think for the portion of fans and fan base that it certainly seems to express itself on social media and the like, and I don't think that that's even all that representative, but such as it is, I think in the long term, a lot
of folks do want to see them go to the Big ten. I think in the long run and the long term, I think there are folks probably within the institution who wouldn't mind that reality eventually. In the short term, I don't. I really can't start again. I really can't speak for fans and whatnot, but I think there's probably a little bit more of a split there in terms of probably a little bit of an old guard and older generation.
A fan yearns for the way things have been and were, and that you know, doesn't like to see the LA schools leave, doesn't like to see Texas and Oklahoma leave the big twelve m But that's kind of amusing just in that as if the Big Twelve has been this one hundred year institution, it's like not for nothing, the Big Twelve was was a marriage of two conferences. Like I, you know, like to remind I'd like to ask the people who yearn for the way things were if they can remind me what
the origins the Big Twelve were. Um, we can go down that rabbit hole. But as it may, it's always been part of the ecosystem college sport. So in the short term, I think people are just want this to be done whichever way it happens to go. If their preferences for it to the Big ten, then I think they want it to be done and for you know, thousand of cards to fall so that it allows that to
happen. If there's somebody who's okay and content with for you know, staying in the Pac ten, Pac twelve, whatever it'll be going forward, then for the deal to get done and to procure as much money as possible out of that deal for as long as it'll go, and then revisit it again
at a later date. So that seems to be from the masses and institutionally and needless to say, with a new president who has only been on the job for about three weeks, don't have much by way of insight in terms of evolved to shit on the on the spectrum on this particular subject matter.
And we really haven't heard much from Rob Mullins over the last year but from media day to the next, other than for myself a brief conversation with him back at spring meetings in Arizona in Scottsdale, back at the beginning of May. So we don't have a couple of minutes here, James, at the end of the day, in a few months from now, are we going to see a team from the Pack twelve in the hunt for a national title?
I think that there will be at least one Pack twelve team into the month of November, firmly in the conversation, I think when not just the initial playoff rankings. I think when you know the people, whatever week of playoff rankings carries us at that point into the first or second week in November, that they'll be a Packtwell team, a lot at least one Pactwell team, a lot maybe two. Whether or not they'll ultimately get in the playoff,
I'm not sure. In part because the quarterbacks in this league are really good, including on teams who may not be very good, and when the most important position on the field is really good and has that level of parity and that level of ability, even some bad teams might be able to pay off some upsets. Let alone cannibalization of the top. And if anything, if any Pack twelve fan needs a reminder, you know, last ten plus
years, this league cannibalizes itself like none other. That has probably been one of its biggest problems. So even in a year where they have some tremendous quarterbacks top the bottom and definitely the strongest I think in the country, top the bottom in the league, that means that there could be some live bullets, you know, lower in the conference standings just because of quarterback play alone.
And then you talk about some premier quarterbacks at the top and some of the better teams at the top that could also do some damage to each other. Yeah, I think there'll be at least one, maybe two teams alive entering November. I'm just not sure if the league will be able to have one alive by the end of its championship game because quite frankly, I think we all have to pretty feel pretty confident about penciling in Georgia for one of
those four spots. There are two time champions with a comparatively easier schedule than they've had the past couple of years, and so that means there's there's three spots left available, and you've got to think the Big Ten champion, whoever it may be, whoever your choice, is probably getting one of them. So there's there's going to be finite ability for the Patrol Champion, whoever it
is, to be one of those other teams. Did you agree with the order of because we all know there's four teams that kind of stick out the USC Washington, Utah, organ Did you kind of agree with the order that the media had those in the poll last week? Or how where do you have those? Oregon coming in fourth among those four? Um, I could kind of go either way with it, honestly, I did. I gotta go back to my ballot, to be honest, because I filled it out
in about five minutes. And I'm not kidding, because I think I did my entire ballot like thirty minutes before the deadline, So I got to I had to pull it up again myself but I'm pretty sure I had SC one. I may have had Oregon two, and I was just doing that on an accurcate talent that that was all. Honestly, I don't look past the concerns that Oregon has defensively, No, nor do I dismiss them. You know, they were not a very good defense last year, and some of
their better defensive players they lost. Now, they did add a lot. They added a lot both via the high school ranks, and they added a lot be the portal, particularly on defense, and they had a lot of roster turn on that side. You know, they had some issues and they tried to address them as best they could. So again, time will tell. But do I think I'm a little bit lower on Utah? I think than some of my peers, and that's only in part because they lost some
really good players too. Yeah, And frankly, when some teams at the top as strong as they are, and I think for Oregon and USC, who both had suspect defenses last year, USC to an extreme, I think they both got a lot better there at their weaknesses. I'm not sure Utah has raised its relative bar if if if there's a proverbial rising tide at the top. For those four teams in particular, I think a couple of them
rose a lot faster than one of the others. I think Oregon and USC in particular addressed some of their most glaring weakness is strongest and raised their caliber of talent more so than Washington next and then Utah, who again, I think it's very good and superbly well coached, but I don't believe that I'm not as high on them entering the seasons as they all be a two time
Raining Conference champions relative to us the Oregon and Washington, I don't. But that said, I don't think having them fourth or even fifth in terms of order of finish because u CELA, thanks to its schedule, I think could find itself in a very fortuitous position at the end of the season, and
that I don't. If you asked me who is the more talented team, maybe even the better coach team, I'm probably picking Utah, But based on schedule, if you ask me who do I think will finish ahead of who, I think there's a chance that UCLA could finish ahead of Utah because I think they have the easier schedule both in the league and my conference for that matter. James. Always good to talk to you. We'll talk to you again later this year. Man, appreciate it, James, thanks bunch.
The intrepid, the intrepid James. Fearless, That's what I mean. That's what it means. Furious. You looked it up, didn't you. Sure? I knew it was it was tenacious. I thought it was more tenacious. But yeah, I would say, you didn't know what it meant. When you said I don't know, I said, I thought it was more fearless, like like the fearless, like tenacious. All right, let's take our last let's think our last break. We'll come back. We'll take their
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I mean, I heart radio. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Box Sports fourteen fifth Day. They welcome back to All and about here on Fox Sports fourteen. Cuffy, I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jay Gonzons gonna talk to James Kreftia. Yea. He even sends things like, well, you know, very very intelligently, he wouldn't he
wouldn't do well on this show, spart but a great information. Yeah, well you know, and again he you know, he wasn't anticipating that conversation, right and and I thought there was going to have to be a conversation about it. Sure and um true. I like that they you know, they went after you know, the Lafcoff came out with it, you know, right away. But I agree to it also went a little deeper than I think a lot of people thought. Sure true, because as he said,
there's there's no deal done. They weren't announcing the deal. So what are we talking about? You know, this pregnancy has gone way along. So can I make you feel old? You already made yourself already do because I look at you and I and I'm like, I'm older than you, so yes, go ahead, make you feel a little older than you already said during the commercial. Oh no, I feel a bad one comes No, no, no, this is not involved in us, I know, but I feel a bad one. That's going to make forty years ago today
George Brett was forty years ago. Forty years ago, Holy crap, seemed like thirty years ago. You know. I told you we're gonna have Jim Young on the show tomorrow. And he got here fifty years ago. Yeah, way before me. And I was in high school when he got here, and I'm like, fifty years We're gonna go back through some serious memory lanes. Yeah, way back, way back. Yeah, so that forty years ago, you remember that time? I do remember, why, you
know, seeing the highlight of that. Now we didn't we didn't have YESP at that time. Three yeah you did seven Yeah, okay, but uh but it was on everything. It was on everything, all the highlights. You never even heard the rule, right right right, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that was a rule. And apparently during the com I saw the show today and they went back and blah blah blah. It says Oh. The announcers back there says, Oh, they're gonna they're gonna cancel it
because I've seen it happen before. And I'm thinking, you've seen it happen before when and they did? But do you know the rest of the story. I guess there was an appeal, right, an appeal of the game. They won the appeal, so they had to go back and replay the game from a certain point, and they kicked the guys off. They threw them out obviously because it was the bottom of the nineteen won the game. They brought them back and they unsuspended the guys so they played again. Wow,
it was really strang won the game. I think Kansas City won eventually. I have to look at I believe you, and the count and they counted the kind of the home run it's coming back. It was like, yeah, that's a bunch of crap. I'll be a better word thing um, And they kend of reinstated everything. Wow, all right, well, and apparently that's a piece that doesn't get every parted. And apparently two weeks
before they had played each other. You know, by the time Kansas City and New York hated each other and who didn't hate in New York, right that they had known about the bat for a long time. They just wanted that. I knew. They just wanted to bring it out, waiting for the right time, and that was the right time. I didn't know about
that, that part, that part I knew. Yeah, I have a vaguat collection of Yeah, that they ended up having to come back and pick up the game because because Kansas City was the home team, so I mean the visit became so they play the bottom of the right. Okay, that's interesting stuff, really interesting stuff. Um A couple of things that I left over from from breaking news. Another another player uh suspended for the for the
season for gambling on NFL who's a e E e Oma? Who was Urique of the Broncos, the defense event for the Broncos, suspended for the year, spend it in death at least for at least the twenty twenty three season, for betting on the NFL games last last season. Which guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, Hey, are you somebody who likes the you know, the throwbacks and all that kind of stuff. You saw that they're they're gonna they're gonna do the cream circle. Uh, Camp
of Bay uniforms, you know the orange uniforms this year Seahawk uniforms. Yeah, the similar uniforms got announced. It any created a bit of an argument over this because if you're a call the the old Cleveland Browns are are really the Baltimore Ravens, right? All their records you know, went with the
Ravens. The Ravens aren't gonna run throw up a throwback uniform of the Cleveland Trown because the Cleveland Browns are now in the league and they've got But the Tennessee Titans announced they're gonna have a throwback uniform and it's gonna be the Houston Oilers, the light blue, the powder blue jersey with the white helmet and all of that. See, if you we'll talk about the Tams agree with
it. Run there and I on the ball. How you guys, This is a Gabriel calling from California. Hey, or how are you guys? You're doing well? Gabriel kind of moved you in today. Um i'm uh, I'm okay. Um. I just wanted to talk about more of um
of the patrol. Uh the patrol, um? Uh what happened on Friday and so obviously I think one obviously, I think uh he George klea coop basically, um didn't announce that there was a Patrol media Patrol Media deal, and I think or going in a reporter basically says, so there is a TV deal or any he said no, no, no, no no no no no, uh stop talking, don't don't worry about it. So I just I still things that had cough is' is not way in two over his
head. Just a village idiot. Oh some letters to you that to us? All right? Well? Also um, also, uh, let's talk to Arizona football. Um so um, I like how Jaden Delora and Jetfish basically U set a statement about the whole several suits and so I really I really liked your statement. And so let's just move on and just focused on focus forcus seeing on the this season coming up. Okay, sounds good.
I agree with that. You know, I think people want to want to move on kind of like they want to get the TV deal, so we can move on from that as well. So agree with you on all that, Gabriel. Yeah, all right, man, thanks so much, keep listening. To talk to you later this week. Okay, thank you. Gabriel's pretty passionate about it. Yeah, yes, and he's kind of right on lot of and a lot of people are right. They want they want
all these things settled. What do you think about the about the Titans wearing an Oilers uniform? Right? Wrong? Yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't don't care, but I think the coolness of it. I do like the powder blue stuff. But how how tough can you be in a powder blue beltfit? Right? U think? Gregory? We were, well, we called it Carolina blue. Well, like I stand corrected, Gregor, we did. We didn't call it powder, we call it. But no, I you know what I'm meaning. Uniform if you like
cool, they look cool, don't I like it? But there's a lot of you know, you got former Houston fans that that that you know that Tennessee has claimed this uniform. You got tennifee Tennessee fans saying this is really cool, we love this, And then you got other fans saying that the Houston Texans should be the one that should be able to wear the old Houston Oilers. And they'll still sell the heck out of them where either way, they they're doing that. They do look good. They do good like him.
I like pretty cool. All right, big game, big game. Boomer clutched up for us today. He's got it, He's got it. He had an interesting Uh oh god it this is the running back quarterbacks. No, no, it was the ten most um Barnet, I lost it. I had it. I had it up. The ten most um, not the I think delusional fan bases or what sport in any sport um, I think, you know, the fan base is with the most unrealistic expectations. Oh well, it just that's it doesn't say football, basketball, baseball,
anything said ten said the ten fan bases. Fan bases with unreal Oh it must be football with unrealistic expectation. Arizona is not under this season. Arizona is not no unrealistic Texas. Texas is in there. Number four four, Uh, Tessa, you know you Kansas. I don't know. Florida, Colorado. Oh yeah, number six, there are number six? Yeah, oh they should be number one. Florida is in there. Okay,
Florida. Um, somebody was in the National Championship Game last year. Shouldn't have been Oh no, oh yeah, that's that's kind of like you know, hey, you enjoy your time there and thanks for coming. Ye um. The number one is Auburn, yeah yeah, they're always okay. Number two is Miami, Okay, Florida not Ohio. Yeah, you know there. Miami's a lot of Arizona basketball. It's fantastic bath. They were good for a really for a while, a long time ago. Yeah, a
long time ago, and people are still holding the hands on it. Okay. So one through ten Auburn, Miami, Florida, Texas Big ten team, Michigan, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Okay, Colorado, another SEC team no Texas am oh yeah yeah, another packed golf team, you silly? Oregon? Yeah, no, Oregon too, Organs. Look at paper Tiger, right, they're a paper tiger. Yeah, TCU. And then a big twelve team Oklahoma State. You know yeah, they think they want in Oklahoma
State is like yeah, Oklahoma State, yea. They think they're they want to be Oklahoma, but they're not. Yeah. Well we had a we had all. We gotta get out of here tomorrow top there, whoever called us, please call us tomorrow. We're out of time. We'll be back tomorrow. We got Jim Young, we'll join us. We'll talk about some of that group in the seventies. But he's on he's on a bit of
a mission to get um. You get Bruce Hillton, quarterback number one War number one during that time, to get him in the you have a ring of honor. He was part of a great team, a couple of great teams, some great offenses. You can just tell him, hey, point to the basketball. Loo can tell him to the basketball. I'm those guys get in. He should be in there exactly all right. So we hope you join us tomorrow and we'll be back with more great guests. See you tomorrow. I'm running the people money