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Monday pod, Hour 2
− BREAKING NEWS: Arizona players head to the transfer portal after their coach leaves.
− GUEST: Former UA football beat writer Anthony Gimino on Jedd Fisch leaving Arizona.
− Will Arizona fans tolerate higher ticket prices with the uncertainty now in football?

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Breaking down all the exes. And oh it's Steve Lavera and Jake and Salmas. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to Ian the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay. Now we have Cavilon le breaking news. This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. All right, so we're gonna start with some Arizona Wildcats transfer news in the wake of the Jedfish departure. We spoke about it a little bit earlier, but Jonah Coleman

has entered the portal as well as backup quarterback Brandon Dorman as well. So those are the first two dominos fall and Foster upheaval, and probably the first of many. You know, it just you know, I think, I think, as we're all say, you know, Arizona fans just gonna have to get you see, the idea that everything that got built up over these

last three years is pretty much going to be gone. It's gonna and the new coach is gonna come in here and probably start all over again, which is again what that's what happens when Arizona gets to where it got to this last season. So it's it's kind of a resignation thing, but it is what it is, and that's who Arizona is and Arizona probably always will be.

We do have some more Tucson centric news. The Tucson Sugar Skulls have announced a new twenty twenty four broadcast schedule and a new partnership with wt s MTV. Yeah, that's an online streaming service. I talked to Kevin Guy about to Serli and Luki was con to let me know that that they had signed this contract and that it was likely that they were going to be coming in with their own broadcast team and that effect is the case. So tw need to give you a raise. Uh yeah, Kevin, what about me?

Yeah, so Pat Parris and I will not be doing the Sugar Skills games. It's less yes and no. I mean, you know it's the games were fun, but it was working. It ate up some set, you know, my Saturday evenings for you know, uh eight of them, you know, each each year. But I had fun. I had a lot of fun. So am I gonna miss it? Yeah? It was fun, but uh, you know, when I'm out to dinner at some place and you know on a Saturday night that I would have been doing the

game, or maybe I'll go to the game as a spectator whatever. You can put your your suit in TIWO. Well, I've lost a lot of weight, Steve, i' know if you notice, but my jackets are starting to not fibbing. I have from the partly from the medication that I've been that I'm on, you know, the diabetes medication and I'm on that's that, you know. But I'm I'm down. I'm I'm down to almost my married weight, which is thirty years ago. Look at you. I'm not

in as good as shape as I was. That it's in different places right, but wait, wise I'm I'm down pretty well. But yeah, I'll miss it a bit because it was fun. Those games are fun to do. But you know, for me, you know, doing my prep and all that, it wasn't all. You know. I would start on Friday night and all day Saturday, almost up until I got dressed and went to the game. So it was a good day and a half of work for every home game. So we do have some more head coaching stuff to talk

about. Jim Harbaugh has officially interviewed for the San Diego but the Los Angeles Chargers job. Friday said San Diego earlier, didn't I you might have. I just did for sure. But yeah, so they confirmed on their website. Be a pressure at least that he did interview for that head coaching. I bet you he takes it. I bit you he takes it. Yeah, and then Dallas will be open soon. Look, this whole weekend was

unbold. Well, you know, it's funny because I saw the Chargers announced that, you know, because it was reported earlier today by Adam Schefter that he was interviewing. Then the Chargers actually put out on social media that Jim Harbor had announced. And right after that I gotta go back and see who it was. Somebody, you know, a reporter on social media says, is Jim Harbough really considering leaving Michigan? Well, of course he is,

because you went and interviewed for the damn job. What are you thinking? I mean, that's like the dumbest tweet I've ever seen. Of course he's seriously considering it because he went he went to San Diego, to LA and interviewed for this job. But yes, he's considering leaving and and everybody on the planet outside of this guy apparently thinks that he's going to take an NFL job. Yeah, and in indications do point towards that as well. I

mean, especially with so many vacancies this offseason. I mean, what better year to have a head coach. San Diego is the place. God, Southern California's the place that he's been, you know, because he started his head coaching career at the University of San Diego. He spent all that time up in the Bay Area. You know, do you want to live in you know, Southern California or Michigan. You know, go ahead, go ahead, we'll talk more about field stuff. I want to talk about.

Oh, I was just gonna say that Caleb Williams has officially declared for the draft. There is no shocker there. But he did kind of leave it until the twelve times he did so he did, and there was there's some speculation about that. There was some you know, us listening to some talk shows this morning and saying, wait a minute, we're down to the last day and Caleb Williams, the purported number one pick, has not declared for the NFL. What's going on? You know, because it's come out that

he said he doesn't want to play for the Bears. What do you guys think? What do you guys make of that? Kids? These kids think they can dictate and back to the back of the day, you're gonna get paid, Just work your ass off and do the job. And Williams does seem to be a type to one to do things differently, better, for better or worse. So this might just be another one millennials. Yeah,

I can't have it all that somewhere. Hey, I can't have it all, but maybe a number one pick in the NFL, maybe a little bit. You can have life scenarios. We do have them. We alluded to it earlier with all the top ten teams losing, but we have a large shakeup in the APP twenty five rankings with Yukon coming in at number one for the first time since two thousand and nine. I saw and Arizona falling, falling four spaces down to twelve, just behind Wisconsin, Memphis and Bailey.

I pushed it today in the it Doesn't Really Matter poll. Yeah, there was almost twelve. That's where they started. Who's the top five after Yukon, It goes Yukon Purdue, Kansas, North Carolina, and then Houston and Tennessee is the first one out at number six. Okay, guess who's the third betting favorite. Arizona still still look and and you know, I've had I've had to walk it for people off the ledge over the weekend and I'm like, guy, you're the you're the voice of reason. I was the

voice. Come on, Steve, I don't lose my mind with basketball like I do with football. Tell me how you had to do that? Well, just saying, look, guys, Arizona is still really good. There's still really good. There's still the team that beat Duke and beat Alabama and beat uh Michigan State in Wisconsin. There's still the team that won all those games. They're just not playing very well right now, you know. And it's they've got a lot of time to get there, to get their act

back together. I mean. Then my second point was, and I don't know what you'll say to this, but maybe just maybe, you know, our impression of the Pac twelve Conference as a basketball conference has been shaded or jaded by the fact that U. C. L A and US here is so bad. Maybe it's not as bad as we think you could be you could be onto something. Yeah, we'll see, because they don't look good. Maybe three teams make the tournament, but you could be onto something.

Which Washington State is not a bad team. Twelve and five. Yeah, and they played out of their mind and play well. Stanford I don't think is lost since they since they uh, since they beat Arizona. You know, and again, God, as much as it hurts my neck to say this, maybe AC is not horrible. Yeah, well we'll see when you know, well, Arizona'll be back at home. Everything will be fun in games until they go back on the road. Colorado gets it's injured guys back

that that team changes. So maybe the league isn't as bad. And I'm seeing that. You know, I've seen a number of bracket predictions that have five pack twelve teams in the really in the in the playoffs. Who was in the tournament? Uh, you know Arizona, Utah, Colorado, Colorado, Washington State and Oregon. Wow, I'll get I didn't see that on maybe three. Fore I would have guessed three, maybe four. Yeah, we'll see as we move forward. But that's that's a lot of teams.

So again, you know, the the PAC twelve's image is always a run. I mean, basketball is always around Arizona in ucl A. Well, Ucla is in the last place and they suck. Yeah, maybe we think the Pac twelve is bad because U c l A is so bad. That's certainly possible. Well, we'll have to see how that shakes out for sure. I also did forget to mention that Jaden DeLaura has committed to Texas State, right, and that's a that's a that's a program that's not been very

good. But they got a new coach. And the funny thing is that coach. That coach, his name has been mentioned as a potential Arizona coach. I can't remember, I remember, but he got he got into their first bowl game ever this last season. Remember J though that people like us make up row was on the wall, and I didn't say he's a candidate. I said his name has been thrown out there state football coaches. GJ. Kine. Yeah, Tho's just one of the guys who have done well

recently. Let's put those on the list. Okay, but then I don't know if you guys want to get into the football that went over over the weekend, just a little bit, let's talk about the Cowboys. God, dang, yeah, you texted me. See I'm not a fan. That's exactly the reason why I'm not a fanfferent, But everybody in New Mexico is a fan because that's what they skip to. See. It's probably they still a state. I think they probably depression. They're no longer a state.

We have forty nine states. Because it was a disaster from the get go. That was awful. You know, it's funny because I started thinking that I said the Cowboys could lose to myself. After Green Bay's first possession. I thought, wait a minute, Wait a minute, green that was way too easy for Green Bay. The Cowboys look slow, and the next thing you know, it's twenty seven to nothing. You know that that pick six was like, oh god, yeah, this is bad. And the week

the day before, Flacco had the same situation. Yeah he was just giving the ball away. But I think I think the clock struck twelve for joy and and and CJ. Stroud Again, I'm soredab. I'm so upset at myself because all week long I had I had Texans and then Steve. I let myself get influenced by by all the all the stuff on Saturday morning, every every betting site that I went to that had you know, previews,

had had the Browns. There's your problem. And I took the damn Browns and I would have hit the two team parlay because I also took the Chiefs on the money line, I would have hit it. You and I were talking about this in between breaks. But I had the Texans and the Packers this weekend. But I only I had the Texans because of C. J. Stroud. I think he's he's really good. I think he's a generational guy. I think he's one of those guys that can really carry a franchise.

To know, a lot of success. I don't know how much success, but a lot of success. It seems like Houston has a guy again. Yeah. Yeah, he's really good and apparently you know, he might have a really good coach. You do me Ryans in his first year. I saw on the broadcast they were talking about how some players consider him a captain in addition to being a coach. Just the energy he brings. You see it on the sideline. He's always hunched over, almost in a stance

on some big third down. Did you see the switching games. Did you see the close up interview, the close up headshot of Jerry Jones giving the interview after the game. That guy either has you know, like he's either got Parkinson's or something like that, or he's so upset. His mouth was shaky and he had tears in his eyes, and he said he could not remember a game that made him more upset than so one of two things.

One of two things. He was he was so upset that he was on the verge of tears, or he's got some sort of a you know, a very serious medical condition, because his mouth was shaking as he was trying to talk, and and his his eyes were full of tears like he was about to cry. And I'm like, dang, you know, this is a dude who this guy doesn't have a worry in the world except for them, Except for them cowboys. I can't imagine he keeps Mike McCarthy. There's

no way, there's just no way. Not actually this disaster. They've won more games than most teams in the last three four years and this is what they have to show for it. Well, but there's no way he left. The Packers are six and oer in Jerry World, that's and they have more playoff victories in the Jerry world than the Cowboy. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Dak Prescott came out and supported Mike McCarthy, and of course the press conference he did, but he also said that his job should be

in a question. What do you guys think about? It is in question? It should be. But they've given they've given him a fortune. Uh, of course it should be. I don't know how many videos came across my TikTok feed of Cowboys fans punching their televisions, ripping them off the walls and throwing him in the backyard. I saw one of a Dak Prescott jersey get getting set on fire on a barbecue grill. I saw him for a guy just sat in a corner and cried, unbelievable stuff. Are you?

Are you a fan? You have a team I don't have. I'm from Saint Louis, so we had a team got taken from us. Now it's I'm just set you. You know, I'm not a sports fan. I would like to sleep at night. I like to keep myself and you're not. You're not a team fan. You're a sports fan. I'm not a team fan. Because this I like to sleep at night. I would be freaking out. And I know a lot of my friends are like because of

the Cowboys, crazy crazy. It was an insane collapse to watch. I mean, even as the Packers better, I was kind of shocked at what I was watching. Yeah, it was. I was stunned with the ease with which Jordan Love was executing the offense was unbelievable. Well it was. It's funny because somebody posted a thing about how you know, the country can't agree on a lot of things, but it sure can't agree on the Cowboys losing and loving And I'm like, you know what, I was sitting there.

I had the Cowboys money line in a parlay that I otherwise would have hit, but yet I was loving it. I was losing my bet, but I was lovely watching the Cowboys get their ass kick like that. Yeah, And it was something to it that watching the game, you certainly you certainly just knew that all the ESPN's, the Fox News, all this Fox Sports, they were going to give the Cowboys all the criticism. Yeah,

you know. And I don't like Stephen A. Smith, but even I watched some of his videos that came across where he was just ripping on the I like the one that came out of halftime with him just up the yes, like just wait, just wait, and I'm like good with him. All right, We're gonna take a break, We're going to come back. He had Anthony Jimino coming up, longtime be writer governeurs on a football still

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your free evaluation today. Streaming live on the iHeartRadio WAPP. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacinzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to Wyre on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're jickens awas Snow on the phone. We have Anthony Jamino, columnists for PHNX Sports up in well Phoenix and here obviously, Anthony. How are you, hey, guys, how you doing. You're off

some old lines about the the departure of Jet Fisher. They just can't have nice things. Yeah, well you've seen that Jay's crying because he knows you can't. I'm not crying, Steve, He's sobbing. I'm neither sobbing nor crying. I'm saying, this is who we are. I don't like it, but this is who Arizona is, and Arizona always will be right and I always has. Yeah, I mean really no matter. There's there's the

Jetfish side of things, and they kind of make sense. He's making a lot more money, not a little more money, a lot more money, all right, I get it. And then there's the fan and players side of it. They have every right to be pissed, disappointed, whatever you want to call it. But it's also just a big slap in the face that say, yeah, Arizon, muh, here's where you are. This

is your place in the college football world. And really that's going to be that's going to be the message to almost everybody not in the SEC or the Big Ten, right because those two conferences are going to dominate the money. And even though the Big Twelve I think will be a very respectable football league, they they might just end up being a feeder program to the SEC and the Big Ten teams what they already are. Anthony, there you go,

they already are. Before this year, you had the in the Big Twelve, you have the Oklahoma, you had the Texas. But the gap is just going to get whiter with with the realignment and all that stuff. Well, how about this, Arizona wins the Alamo Bowl. There's so much promise for next year, maybe even the favorites to win the Big Twelve. Now, what do you think about next year? Well, by now, nothing because we know nothing. We know we don't know who the coach is going

to be, we don't know who's going to stay. Uh, is there a scenario and maybe it's just fantasy Land where most of the players stay around for one more run. Then I think Arizona's right back in that mix. It'll be one of the favorites of the Big twelve and and uh, we'll see what happens from there. But there's also a scenario where the roster absolutely gets gutted and this is another two two and a half three year rebuild.

Yeah, no, who knows, I don't know. Yeah, and that's why that's I mean, that's why I'm I'm on the uh, I'm on team hashtag hired Nanson because from everything, maybe this isn't true, but from everything I've heard, he has the best chance of keeping the key guys around.

And by key guys, we're talking fa Fida and McMillan, right, And I think if those two guys stay, just like just like when you're putting together a recruiting class, you got those guys where people want to go and play with them, I think the majority of guys will stick around. But again, you're just we're all speculating. Yeah. The only thing to that though is that, uh, you know, it's been reported that the rest of the staff is gone, with exception of cecil and sure so Nanson.

You know, the staff that Nansen worked with here is not going to be here. Mhm. But part of that is, yes, if they talk to Nanson, if they think he's a capable head coach who can lead a program, Yeah, of course, like any any guy coming in here, he's got to show he's got to have a plan to put together a great assistant coaching staff. Duayne A. Keina if Nansen returns, Duyne Keina is likely to stick around and not go to Texas. The receivers coach may

stick around and become the offensive coordinator. But you know, you can't lose your head coach in mid January and not expect some pain. But to me, this keeps if if that's the move that keeps the core around, do it because Arizona has a chance to do some really rare special things. If that core is still around for one more year and then whatever happens after that will worry at it then. But I just hate to see them punt on a what might be. You know, Jay, these things don't come around

very long. They don't like perhaps a two generational opportunity to do something special in football, and that's you know, I think that's worth preserving. But you know what do I know? I think I think there's some good candidates, but I'm not sure there's any other candidate that keeps the core together.

So now you're talking timeline. I mean that's this is critical timeline. Oh absolutely, I think you guys, at some point this week, maybe by Wednesday, we'll be talking about the new head coach, whoever he is. Isn't that fascinating that they're probably going to spend less time interviewing and getting to know whoever's going to run this program? Then they would If you were getting

a new job at you know, the City of Phoenix or wherever. You know, you probably go through two or three interviews to get that job. And yet you're going to go hire a coach to run a multimillion dollar program. You're going to interview them one time and make a decision. Well you know how this works. Well some of you guys already know. Yeah, yeah, So that's that's what I was gonna say. You know that most jobs are open for one specific guy, for a higher or a woman,

you know, because you already have the person in mind. And who knows, because Keky's taking a lot of heat the last couple of days because he wasn't even around. Well he couldn't, he couldn't be with theres no fall of his own, but he still wasn't around. And either he had a he had a name in his pocket that he was going to pull out if

this was to happen. But this happened just like boom. They know, they know who Brent Brennan is. They don't need to, you know, need to you know, check in with him and see where where he's at, so to speak. But they know who he is. Obviously, they know who Johnny Nansen is. My guess is that there's at least some relationships with some of the guys who are talking to and and one of those was reportedly just so will Cox of cow. He's a great cause I would have

I would have no problem. I would have no problem with justin Wilkom. I know people are saying, people are saying, oh, he hasn't won enough at Cal. Okay, you go win at Colteez, right, you go win at Cal. Let's see how you do. I guarantee you if the choice is Brent Brennan, all, I won't say all. A vast majority of Arizona fans will just be up in arms that he's like thirty two and thirty six a San Jose State something like that, right, you know

how hard it is to win the San Jose Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah, Well this is a funny thing to be together. You know, a series of you know, seven win seasons or whatever. But that is amazing for San Jose State. Well, you guys have been here, you covered the team for a long time, a long time here with you, Uh, all of a sudden, not all of a sudden, forever Arizona fans are kevar eaters. They haven't won enough. Who are you to say this

exactly exactly that? And that's and Anthony, you know correct time if you agree with this, you know Arizona fan football fan doesn't really have a realistic view of what the Arizona program is. Yes, would you agree with that? I think it's I think I'm probably like one hundred percent on board with hot And we saw that just a couple of years ago when Jetfish made the comment about how like Utah is his model to build an Arizona program, and everybody was like, Utah, why do we want to be like Utah.

It's like, are you serious? You would kill Yeah, you would do anything to have the SA and I'll take I'll take it even another step further. I think a lot of that comes from lut because Luke came here and did what he did, and for some reason, fans, you're thinking, why can't we do that in football? Well you can't. Totally different,

completely different things. But but I think I think there's there's a sense that if Luke could come and do that and stay here and make this program one of the top programs in the country, why can't you do it in football? Tucson's a really cool place. Yeah, different time, different sport, the whole, the whole, different facilities for so long. Yeah, totally

different. But did did the head coaches here for a long time spoil Arizona fans, whether you're talking Lout or Tomy or Jerry Kendall or Mike Candre or Frank Book. I mean, guys who won big and stayed around even when they had other opportunities. That was great. But in the eighties and nineties and into the ots or whatever, the salary gap wasn't so wide. You know, when Dick told me, he they say Dick tell me when he

turned down Washington in ninety eight. You know, we're talking the difference between he was probably getting paid five hundred thousand as opposed to maybe making a million or whatever at Washington. You know, now we're talking over the course of a contract. Jetfish can make twenty five million dollars or more from Washington than he would Arizona. That's a huge difference. And that's just the landscape with

college athletics, and in some ways Arizona than left behind. Well because there's when he is who Arizona is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean in in in football, that's kind of who Arizona is, like we talked about, and some of that is going to be conference affiliation and some of so some of that is there's nothing you can do about it because the SEC schools are going to be making twice what you make as an FLIC department as a program every year, so they can, they can pay their assistance more,

they can pay the coaches more, they can they've got a bigger a bigger base for the NIL money. Which also I'm sure was a huge consideration for Jetfish is that you know, it's it's easier to get players to Washington because there's more money in that collective than there is an Arizona. So he's thinking he can make his life easier down the road. Sure, and he doesn't have to chied with the or convinced the fans there right have to beg him to come to the game, right right, So I think back to

your initial thing that Arizona just can't have nice things. That's the part that to me, that's as a fan, that's the part that stings more than any of it. Not not so much that he left, because you know, again that's who that's who Arizona is. But here we were, I mean, I was saying, Arizona, could you know, can win the league and playing the Rose Bowl if they get in the right bracket next year, And now it's like, what the hell. That's the part that I

think as an Arizona fan, you just you just hate. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's rare enough that Arizona has a ten win season and finishes in the top ten, top eleven and the Ape Pole. But often you win, at least you went into the next year with an off season of feeling good. You often had the rug pulled out of you, whether it was the ninety or you know, Larry Smith left after eighty six, right, you know the ninety three team on the cover of Sporce Illustrated the

next year just kind of felt sure they didn't have it. The ninety nineteen had opened at Penn State and was never the same. But this just feels different because you had nine months of feeling good and high expectations, and if everything went well, which you thought it was going to until Nick Favorite retires, this wasn't even a possibility. Yeah, So you had, you had a really nice runway of good things ahead, and suddenly you just skid it

into the river. Now the airport is closed for a little time being for repair work. Hey, we got two minutes. You got two minutes to solve the men's basketball situation. How do you solve it? How can I help? I am out of eligibility, so I can't help you there. How's your shot? You's got to beter than Coylin Boswell's at this point right now? Maybe, But I mean, what's I think the move is inserting Jayden Bradley into the starting lineup and seeing how how Boswell responds to the bench

personally. I kind of. I mean, I'm not putting this on Teller saying he's horrible, not playing well, but I've always liked him better as a six man than a starter, and he seems he's one of those guys who can certainly handle that role, because I think more TJ. Lewis isn't a bad thing either. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, So let me ask you off the bench, because he's like Hella is like four guys and one off the bench, So you need help that point. He can be

your guy. You need help at the four. He's your guy, no matter how the game is going, he's your guy. Okay, So now let me solve the Let me how you solve the bollow problem. I have no insight into big men, more crevious, I would assume, Yeah, well, I don't think he's got limitations to Steve ball has not been Baul has not been good, and I would not trust him at the freedom line under any circumstance. Lake. I don't know. I don't know. I

don't know ballows so much. The problem is as the perimeter and whether that includes l A and and and uh. I think you know, uh, you know they're getting beat out on the perimeter, not inside. I really think. Oh okay, I'm gonna mark my my territory that we've got. We've got too much to figure it out. Yeah yeah, and then, uh, where are we going for the first round, Anthony? Where you're driving or I'm driving A day after the first time? What are we going

back to that night? Okay? Well a as usual, Thank you very much, thanks for joining us today. All right, Anthony, thanks a bunch man. Be well, all right you too. Yeah, yeah, we saw nothing there, but it was good information because as you guys are big fans, uh, and I compare you guys with the cowboys for a long time. You guys don't have you guys have nice things and then oh sorry, you got to take aback from you. You get repossessed. That's

exactly what's happened with this. Yeah, it's gonna be bad for you, Jay, It's gonna be a bad offseason because we don't know. I was sound almost excited. No, no, no, I feel I feel very bad because the best time to cover a team is on the rise, and we just don't know where we're headed. It may not happen, that may not happen. All right, We'll be right back. You're an Arizona Man's basketball fan. You know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take

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fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iheardware just surgery on the Ballady, Thanks for joining us. It's I'm the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Kevin And you know, one of the things Jay, we talked about last week with the price increase of the of the definite price because they gotta get out of this messed up to earth. Uh Now, it seemed it seemed less Uh, it seemed tolerable last

week. Now people are gonna be pissed because they are pissed. I've seen the stuff they've written. They're not gonna deep in the deep dig it deep dig dig deep in their pockets. Right, I'm certain that there are people who were probably might have been ready to buy season tickets, so they said no, now I'm gonna wait again. Right, I'm gonna wait again too,

because that's it. That's whoeverzon a fan is. As much as they want to bitch about everything going on, right right, you know, they're gonna now they're gonna say, well, I'm not buying season tickets now, I'm gonna wait until it get they get good again then I'll start buying season. Well along those lines that we brought up a subject before before and it came on or about about we talk about how the glory time was now football

was this is from last year too. Football was improving, The men's basketball team was doing well, the women's basketball team was okay, doing okay, back to the nineties, right almost coming back. The ditch was just around the corner, right, and then they turned and they turned down down the street and right into the ditch, right in the ditch and not what was the word that you had used, shambles or what was a disarray? Disarray

that may be too strong. Well, you know, I got you know, I got told on text message that you know, it's in disarray, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean to a degree. And it was because the Washington State loss. You know, the basketball teams in disracted. I'm like, well, the bat I think the basketball team is gonna be Yeah, the bad basketball team is gonna be okay. But you know, compared to what the program as a whole was forty eight hours ago,

Yeah, there's there's some disarray to it. Now, let's take this call. Hi, you're on the AAR and I on the ball, Nico, Nico, you sound upset. I am, But I knew that you car salesman was gonna leave. Yeah, we did, right, but but we didn't think he was gonna leave like this. Is that That's what I'm thinking. I was like, I knew he was gonna leave with that video come out? Man, right, we talked about that. Those are like a gut punch. M Do you have a clu can walk out to his

press conference with a brand new like husky puppy? What what was your first reaction to it? That was upset? But he did lose the NAU so I figured it out. You've never forgiven him for that, have you? I never thought in my life I would see that happen. Yeah, well it did. And uh and you know he's gone. So so, Nico, you and your dad have tickets. I'm assuming your dad pays for the most tickets. Is he concerned about the price increase? And would you still

have them? He told me yesterday's gonna be saving some money next year by not that makes total sense. Yeah, but they get Brett Brett Brennan. I think they'll be all right. What about Johnny Nansen? Be happy? With that and forget that, dude, you got to rebuild, man. Yeah, we'll see. I think Brendan will stay around for a long time. Would you trust the next guy who says I'm coming to Arizona and I'm staying for a while, would you trust that it was Brennan? Yeah?

Other than that, probably not, though it's like this un l V guy know. Okay, yeah, all right? Well, how's that marriage are you? Are you almost on virtual marriage? I don't Thanks for listening to me the subject real fast. Yeah, okay, no, thanks. I think you can't trust until you know. And how many how many years there's for your momentum? How many years is momentum in college sports? Now? Well, the thing is that the one thing Arizona fans are tired of is

getting their faces kicked in or getting gut punch. That's been used a lot in the last forty eight Well get it all the time. Were you there for for the for the Tommy Lloyd press conference? And you know, Bruce being Bruce because he was doing a story on the financial situation? Were you were you in the room? He asked him, Well, what do you think about this? Uh? Them being in trouble of US. Thommy says,

I didn't come here for no financial situation. You know, some for some and they didn't and who knows what's going to come of it eventually, But you don't want to be part of that. You're here to coach and if it affects you at some point down the road, you don't want to be part of that, don't. You don't, so and again, and that's why, that's why it was bugging me that were saying, oh, you should have gone the day in contract done, it'll still be here.

And I'm like, oh, wait, the contract has nothing to do with the with the UFA's financial situation, It has nothing to do with right, So so stop. You know, if Tommy looked Tommy Lloyd, if a Jedfish had signed the contract Sunday morning and there was a ten million dollar buyout, Washington was still going to get it, you know. And that's what they're saying. The buyout was in the contract that had been proposed. It was ten million bucks. Yes, did Arizona lose four and a half million

because the contract didn't get signed. Yeah, because they're getting a five and a half million dollar buyout under the existing contract. But that the contract was not going to keep Washington from getting Arizona's coach. And that's that's the thing. But you know, it's funny because you know, in the morning, when when things started to you started to hear things that, God, this

might actually happen. You know, I had a couple of friends, you know, around the country, you know, saying find something out for me. See and it was nowhere until it was on was done. Yeah right, I'll said, All of a sudden, you started hearing this thing's done. He's leaving, and there was no turning back. Yeah, yeah, right, he was gonna leave, he was, He's gonna leave. He

just was. You know, the right thing had to happen, the right I'd love to hear from Arizona fans, Arizona fan is gonna root for him or not? Oh? You know where they've got some goodzal the got in there, man. Okay, Okay, that that's a dumb question. Do you pay attention to what he's doing up there or do you forget about that question? Do you forget about him just or or do you sit there and root against him? No, look at what they did to Sean. They're

kind of backing Sean A lot of them. I think, you know, hope that Sean does well. This one's different because he left on his terms and he said hell with you, guys. Sean left because they didn't want him here anymore. It's kind of totally different here. And I think people full over the rich rod right. I don't know. That's probably indifferent. I don't know. I don't know they do. I think they do. Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey guys man,

what a day for cold football? Yep? Yep? Where you Where do you sit with this? This is du Yeah? I think Dan Lanning is shining right now. Why why do you say that? Well, he's the one that's told him true, he's he's the one showing that he is a long term not chasing the dollars. Yeah, I hear you. Okay, that may that makes sense. What do you want to see happen here? I feel bad for you guys. And the thing is jetfish. His tenure is one point three years. First stop sit here? Three years?

You should expected otherwise? What are you calling from right here in Tucsons? Okay? Are you not a fan? You just know? Observer? Well, my wife works for the u A. So as those deposits keep getting made more fan because because you said, you guys and there you go, there you go. But uh, you know, do you know do they what I mean, what would make you happy? Uh with the outcome of this? Uh yeah what what you know? What you guys were talking,

you guys were talking about Justin Wilcox. He's one of those guys that will stay if you could get him, he will stay. I took classes with that guy up at u O and his family, his tradition. He's not the money chaser. He doesn't need to be. Yeah, and he'll still get paid pretty well. Yeah, and I do remember so if you call, yeah, you know, go ahead, you can. Jeff Fish and he wants to style himself after Utah and Williamham. Well, no, how long has Willingham been in Utah? Yeah? Long? Yeah, that's how

that happens. I mean in Oregon. Rich Brooks was there for seventeen years and all of that was Balti for twenty years. That's how you build a program. Yeah yeah, So have you been listening? This is your first time you called in? Right? No, okay, I've called I've called in to make fun of Jay a couple of times. Thank you. I appreciate that you deserve it. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure I had it coming. So I don't know, you know, are you a season

ticket holder or anything like that. No, No, I just I enjoyed football, and yeah, I really enjoyed. Actually, Arizona's rise this year was well, let me ask you this, because I've had a couple of people say this to me, that they're sick of college football and what it's become really just in the last few years, you know, to the point of one I'm saying, I'm stopp being a fan. I'm not going to games anymore because I'm just sick of how money has taken taking this over and

it's just not fun for me anymore. Where are you on that? Yeah, I could agree with that, I do, but I think there's a few out there that that's not what drives in that. There's a few and far between. I mean, think about saving how long was he there? Yeah, yeah, forever, you know, but he was also the big the big dog. It was easy for him to stay. Yeah, for the ten million, eleven whatever he made. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, but not to begin with, I mean, yeah, Alabama was sanctioned

and they were way down when he came in. It took a while. It did take a while. Okay, all right, man, thanks, I got what you got. I got one more thing. Okay, you guys want to solve the U of a basketball? Yes, don't. Don't play the Ducks because they're going to beat you twice. Ye, all right? And you know what, almost almost I'm rooty for at least a lip because we need to get more teams in the in the end of the tournament. I hate it when there's like people are bad mouthing the league and there's

like two or three teams in the tournament. Oregon needs to get in there. You can almost guarantee though, and Eugeno will happen absolutely, all right, man, appreciate the call. Thanks a bunch. All right, thank you, thank you, thank you. I had something to say, I can't remember. So so, just last night Stevie Rocker headed to Montana.

That was a breaking news item as well. Okay, good for him, and and we do we have the Kaden the Caaden kids from GDO was gonna be preferred walk on well, he said yesterday I saw him an interview on Channel four said he's still playing. Okay, good for him, you know. I you know, I went on social media and said, this is

a Scooby right kind of guy. I saw that. I thought that was I really feel I really feel like he's But as we were talking, was that something that came to mind that I wanted to that I wanted to bring up and I already forgot what it was. But you know, this whole idea of you know, I, let's take this call real quick. It's gotta be the last one. How you're on the air and I on the balls. Hey, you know, I always hear Jay saying that where mediocrity,

we're a stepping stone program. Totally agree and understand that. But I'm just wondering, how do you turn the corner? Is it ever possible? Are there any case studies on the like, what do you do? A serious question? I really just it's it's well, but think about think about all the college football programs that are at the top of the at the top of the food chain. There are all programs who have been there for a

really long time. It's hard to break in, you know, teams like Arizona, let's say Missouri, Right, you get in and maybe you're there for a couple of years, but it cycles out. And so I don't know that there, I don't know that there is a way to get in there and and stay in there. I mean, think think of it.

I mean, think of who the top programs are. It's Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia, USC those those programs have always been there, at least in our lifetime, right, No new ones have broken in, right. Yeah. And then the thing is in basketball, it's different than you've got mid majors. You got Butler playing for the national championship game against Duke. You know, you have Gonzaga that can come up.

It's a lot harder in football than taking well and lude used to say that in basketball it's easier because you've only got to get four or five good guys on your team and you and you can become a power and that it's not like that in football. The football is the rich get richer all the time. This is almost by the way, Steve. But thank you for taking the call. Appreciate Hey, we appreciate it. Thank we appreciate you calling here from you. Thank you. Yeah, one of the good guys

I know pretty well. Yeah, and look Goozig is not doing well. Ye're out of top. But again again, you know, going back to the football thing. Though, all the all the power programs have always been though programs in our lifetime. You're talking about blue bloods area. There's a set of very set yeah group, it's tough to get involved in, tough to get inside there. All right, that was a fast That was a

fast show. We'll have more on this tomorrow, right, guys, We're gonna bring in on some xuo A football players, some of these guys that we've been talking to who really loved what JA was doing. Let's see I they still love let' see if they still love him. All right, Okay, hey, thanks for being here today and come back tomorrow because we'll have more of this. You better bring the chip around to the sad sad chet alone

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