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Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today is my booer Frinday, Monday, Mike, Mike, Mike Monday, Mike Monday, Mike Quinn and our guy Monday, Juan Mann.
Yes, how's your day? Good? You have Manna, it's been manic? Okay, good, good teach it you. I do teach it to you. One of them. I don't know if I'm them. I mean, it's like, what is what is that them? You're a week? Yeah, you're we like what everybody else slips slip, We're we. I'm on the inside.
Yeah.
Yeah, you get to check this as Arizona. Yeah you know, it's like and I can throw myself as a fan. Yeah you can, and so can one. No yes, and no difference for about three more months. Yeah, so that you can't. I can that your man. Technically, I'm still a student. Okay.
Well, then there's a little a little bit of a little bit of you're well, you're you're we we was pretty good on Saturday. I thought they.
Whatever you want to you want to go on that they played their best game of the year to me, Yeah, I'll tell you know, it's interesting because I think we said that last week too, uh.
The year.
And you read me? I mean you only did that is me. Yeah, I look for typos.
Let me tell you he does because I get him. He is my editor, which I'm greatly appreciative. Every writer needs an editor. And thank you for you know, great story. But but yeah, however, how did you you know how was the play link?
No?
No, no, I said that in b YU last week. Great and I thought that was a great game on the road against a pretty good team.
And then they upped it. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that they definitely did. I think that their their defense uh there there rebounding, which had been pretty suspect. Uh, their defense in the rebounding was outstanding. Yeah.
You haven't seen too many games, but you have seen a lot of games, but you haven't seen a lot of games in person like this.
Uh, Juan, And.
I'm gonna say this, I'm trying to see Uh give me, give me, uh give me calebs Love's best game, just stop top your head, best game since he's been here.
But I'm not sure if I could do that. I know it's it's hard. He's had some thirty three point games. Yeah, organ was.
That memorable, but I mean we can't even remember it now, right, No, let me say something. I won't forget the day Henry Vsar almost collapsed and he was fantastic. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, he was, he was great, He was beat. He looked like I could just take a nap for like a week.
But it's one of those things where he kind of looked like he sensed he could take over this game, and he kind of did. He did. There was there were portions of that game that he took over.
It was like in both it was like me walking up eight Mountain and you know, three quarters away and I've never gone three courts away. It just being Jolie said, what the hell am I doing here? I'm going to go back home, but he continued to walk.
He did. He didn't you see that he was almost ready to fall down. You were there, he was, I didn't, I was, I was.
I was preoccupied writing two different stories and tweets and memes and we'll.
Get to that in a little bit. But he was to me, he was he was, he was winded, but boy, I tell you what, it was one of those things where he you could tell that he sensed that he was going to be a pivotal player in this game, and he was. And he came up.
Big walking shots, having done in the court, shooting three and guess what if he's one A, Waka was one B because Waka was fantastic too.
I'll tell you that. That's what I'm saying. On the boards. They were really playing them together, and I know that that was the one of the big storylines, like, no, were they ever going to play them together? They ever gonna play that. I don't know what he was waiting at for, uh. I know it was like, hey, when the gows to get hurt, it's you know, it's like going, hey, welcome to the ffeeded.
It'd been fefeeded, actually very much. But he was like the I guess the woman with a chess era cat.
Yeah, here we go, our chance, here's our chance. Now's our chance. But it was it was it was his chance. And then they went in there and they absolutely dominated the glass against the team that is owned the pretty owned him on the glass in in uh in Lubbock. The it was, Yeah, it was really something I will say that you know, and and I and I commented on your article. Uh if if you could imagine a at the beginning of the year writing an article saying that we beat one of the top teams in the
Big Twelve this late in the season. Uh, and never once mentioning Caleblove's name. Uh, I didn't, Yeah, you didn't. You didn't mention And I went through it a couple of times, and it's like, and it is true. It was one of those things where it's like I do believe Caleb was was pressing. There was that one sequence where uh, we just kept getting in the offensive rebound, kicking it out. Caleb, you know, would throw it up again and drive to the basket, and throw it up
and then drive to the basket. We had hit three maybe four shots in a row that looked like he was just like going, I just gotta make one of these.
It's funny because in the final moments, final two three minutes, I guess.
Uh it was on up by eight maybe and uh.
They got an offensive rebound. They kicked it to your example, to to Caleb, and they could just pull the back. They could have pulled it back right, They're gonna have to follow him anyway. But he shot it with the shot clock maybe five seconds in. Yeah, and they could just pull it back and waste another thing. Caleb is never gonna do that. Caleb's gonna get Caleb's stuff. He was open to his credit, but.
You yeah, your time, you're right, Yeah, And he's done that over and over again. I did that last year. We lost a couple league games, or games got a little tighter when it was one of those seas. Its like we gotta we gotta lead late and Caleb's throwing it up. You know, bring it and place your voice on the phone. So let's call it. Get it good. Hello, you're on the air. Nine the ball? Who's this?
Hey, David John Jones? How you don't buy ten?
John? What do you got?
You know?
So a couple of things.
First of all, when you play good defense and you rebound the ball and you make free throws, it gives you a chance to win a lot of basketball games.
Yeah. Absolutely, And when you are.
In a very competitive league, it really does come down or in the sweet sixteen. It comes down to the little things, and it comes down to making free throws. You know, I loved Ballo, but I didn't feel like you could win a championship with a guy that you either couldn't play late or you couldn't count on to make free throws. And right now, you know, watching the team the star. When I watched him the first two years, he was a step step and a half slow on defense.
He couldn't rotate, and so you weren't able to challenge shots. And because he was late, that's why he to me, he wasn't getting playing time. You know, now he's anticipating better, he's in position, and he's a rim protector, and he's playing he's playing like a dog.
Yeah.
And when you have that, that to me the whole team. The resurgence of the team this year has been really contingent on on the play of our big guys, you know, and as far as the conference goes, what's impressed me, to be honest with you guys, is watching the physicality of our team. You know, I think when you listen like a fran Priscilla, you listen to whomever they thought we were going to get exposed for being soft coming from the week Pat twelve and watch us dominate physical games.
It's pretty impressive.
Well, John, come on, realistically, I know you watched a lot of games.
You've been around a long time. Didn't you think the same thing.
No, to be honest with you, like I saw, there's what I noticed when he had Kerr, Krisa and the Europeans, we were soft. And when we when we played like Houston in the tournament, we got exposed for being soft. And I feel like when he brought in Jayden and kJ Lewis you know, love loves an enigma man like to what What what I saw is that we can win games in spite of love and not that he has to play well for us to win that collectively we're getting. We're getting good effort from a walk Waker
is playing like a he's playing great. Carter Bryant is challenging.
No.
To be honest with you, Steve, like I thought that we addressed getting tougher at the guards, and that's where.
We were getting beat.
Like Kerr wouldn't be able to stack up against text attach he would have gotten beating like a drum. The entire game. Number three would have went by him all game. And so to me, like, I feel like we're in a better position to defend than we've been in a long time, and playing in this conference. You know, we'll find out where we're at against Houston, but we're going toe to toe against you know, very physical teams.
And we're going to blow for blow with them.
And that that's what's impressed me the most with this team out of everything. That and and VS are taking a huge step forward.
John, I think I think you hit the nail and headed when you said the word confidence. Okay, these guys, especially when you're talking about VS. Are he goes out there and he's playing with confidence, and it's like just turned the game around. I mean, he's out there, can make it. Everybody's yeah, yeah, they have, And I think a lot of it again with John, you know, agreeing with John said is like going they're doing it. They're looking they've been looking at Caleb, they've been looking at
him to be the one. They realize, Looksten, we can do this too. And I think they're playing with a lot more confidence making a difference. Okay, we got to go.
Thanks man, Thanks Thanks John, Thanks yeah, we agree.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I think I think, like we said, confidence is what's what's helping this team right now. And they they even if they're down ten early or ten ten midway through the game, they don't look phazed at all right now.
But they haven't been I mean, they haven't been ten. They haven't been down. I think we'll know tomorrow. Here's my thing, and I'll be totally honest and transparent with me. I haven't been I hadn't been impressed is not the word. I think they just hadn't played anybody for a while here in this in this streak. Well, they beat Baylor, so that was okay, that was a guy. And but they beat them at home it was like asterisk okay. And then they then they went on the road and they beat buy U.
Okay.
I thought they'd lose that game. I think, did you say, yeah, okay, So so they win. I'm thinking, okay, maybe I've been a little you know, skewed here. And then they played Texas Tech. I thought they would win. In fact, I thought they would win by bird ten and and I've told it on the show, I think, and and then but how they beat them, it was it was great because they played physical and they didn't get you know, they get punched, and they'd come back and it was
very impressive. So I've gone from maybe a four believer to like a seven believer. Now they played tomorrow, Even if they win or lose, it's tough to win on the road.
I'll stay at seven. And if they beat.
Houston at home, okay, maybe an eight because Houston's good. But guess where the game is. That's here in the security blanket of Michael. But but that shouldn't excuse me. So even if they played well or whatever, eight and then guess what happens. We're gonna turn to March here pretty quick. All bets are off, baby, yeah, off, Yeah. I mean it's all one and done because oh, we beat Houston or we beat what does that mean?
Yeah, doesn't mean it.
Last year when they were beating people like crazy when they came to Pleasant, what.
Did it mean? Not a damn thing. Yeah, but you know that. The other thing, I think that they were beating a lot of nobody's in the packast last year. Yeah, last year they were. Yeah, I think they're beating somebody's. I think that they're now I think there are people there. I think the big twelves are going to have some teams that are gonna win some games in the tournament.
Well didn't you think this when we started the season watching these guys and there were four or five or whatever, And we said it on nauseum with Bruce and everybody else that at some point or no, no, entering into the conference was going to be a perfect remedy for being tougher later on. Guess what, Well, sure, and it's happening. It is because it has to happen.
Right right, You're not gonna get through this, you know, and and and not be tougher. Right, Okay, you don't get punched in the mouth in the in the PAC twelve. You know, everyone pats themselves on the back in the PAC twelve and then you get and you get done. But in this conference you're gonna get punching them mouth all the time. You got to keep doing it.
And and you see it when you're not tweeting and you're up right, how much the refs let it go?
They do, yeah, which is which is a good thing. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because they will they're not gonna try and follow people wish you on the cherry. You know, you use a two shot foul and you get the ball back. Yeah. Here it's like play yeah exactly, Yeah, you know, no blood, no foul. Yeah. But I will tell you the difference. There's a definitely the difference between this, you know, obviously a difference between this team at four
and five and then what they are now. Oh yeah, yeah, And I think I think what it was, and I think, you know, I mentioned it before, but it's like I think at four and five, this team was like looking at Caleb, you know, they were standing there looking at Caleb to do something. Yeah, And then I think not so much that they're like going, well, we don't need Caleb.
They absolutely need Caleb, Okay, but there are other people that are like, hey, i'm pretty good too, Yeah, and if we play together, then we're gonna be pretty good.
Hey, we're gotta go. We gotta go to Brick. We're gonna have Arnie Green from the Topeka Paper. Yeah, this is gonna be in cover. Kansas State has been partly covering the team for a long time. See what's expecting up there. And then the four o'clock hour, we're gonna have Michael Ebb from the Daily Start.
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Hey, welcome back to Whying the Ball Here at Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with Mike Quinn now on the phone, we have Arnie Green from the Topeka Capital Journal.
How are you doing, Arnie good?
How are you?
We're doing fine. Thanks for joining us. Let me ask you a quick question just for perspective. How long have you covered Kansas State and the league?
Uh, actually sort of off and on since nineteen ninety eight, but the last pretty much full time in the last five years.
Okay, so you I asked because you're a Caju veteran of just what goes on in the league. And we all know because we've seen from afar it's a great basketball league, of physical basketball league, and it's nothing's really changed from our end because it's exactly that.
Yeah, I had even more good team with Arizona and obviously Houston last year and and pretty much every all of them that they've added our quality teams. So it's done nothing but made the league stronger.
I think what's been what's been the rising the success of Kansas State lately?
If I have in a row, well, UH.
I kind of looked into those numbers because I was I was kind of curious myself because this is kind of the team I think people envisioned when at the start of the season there was a lot of talent, but they're just there was really just one player. David Gasson was really the only player that had had played meaningful minutes for k State, and pretty much of the returning guys the only one right now that's contributing. So
I think it just has taken. It takes some teams, I guess a little bit longer to to gel and I think part of it is they're just now figuring things out. But that's the thing with with the transfer portal and everything. It just different teams, I guess figure it out it at different times, and it's taken this it's definitely taken a while.
Yeah, and then you guys, guys, and then Kansas State UH plays the rival Kansas. UH does very well against it is Kansas. This is I don't want to knock anything. Are they just not as good as they used to be or Kansas play out of its mind or both?
They're not They're not as good as some of these the Kansas teams I think of recent years.
I think they're they're.
Going through maybe some of the same things. They have a few more guys back, but it seems like getting their their pieces to fit has been been a struggle. This is just watching This doesn't look like a typical bill Self team.
Yeah.
And then Kansas State, of course is playing very, very very over well, so up their game.
Yeah. So outside of the guy you mentioned, what else is working.
Well? They're shooting the ball a lot better.
I look through the five game winning streak, they're shooting forty eight percent.
Overall, whereas in overall.
For the in their twelve league games, they're shooting forty five percent, and they've up there three point shooting to forty three percent over the five games, and it was at thirty five percent for the whole for all the league games.
So that's that's.
Been one thing is they're they're shooting the ball better. They've turned the ball over a little bit less. They're they've been better in transition, which had been a problem all season.
Uh, basically turnovers.
They were losing the the points off turnover ball and they've been winning that lately.
Just basically playing better all around.
Also, Joam Tang. I think has shortened as bench quite a bit. Really, there's only six seven guys now that are are playing playing a lot of minutes. I think only one of the subs is averaging double figures in minutes. So the question is whether they can sustain that with with the with the short bench. They've had a few guys occasionally step in and do some good things, but all five of their starters now are averaging and double figures.
But really they're not getting a whole lot consistently from.
Anyone else other than C. J.
Jones who started at point guard early in the season.
They seem to have really balanced scoring as you mentioned. I mean everyone has been in double figures in this in this streak. The uh, I mean, where's the strength? Is there a strength in the you know the in the front court? They are they really good at the guards. Where's the strength of this team? And how do you think to follow on, how do you think that matches up with Arizona.
I haven't seen Arizona a whole lot. I think it's just the way the way Arizona plays, it looks like it's not They don't go very big to start with.
That should that should be a pretty good matchup case state they have probably there.
I'd say the biggest difference has been the play of when Doug McDaniel, who was a Michigan transfer, he took over as the starting point guard I think for the first league game, and he's really been playing well. And then Coleman Hawkins, the transfer from Illinois.
It's a six ' ten guy who is averaging.
Between I think about four and a half five assists per game. He's not a huge scorer, but he is leading him and scoring during league play, and that he works really well with Gasan, who's about six eight six '.
Nine, is more of a more of a low post guy.
That he's such a good passer that that it's given Gason a lot of opportunities. We're talking and then, uh, I was gonna say, Brendon hasen Villanova transfer. If he gets going, he's a streaky three point shooter. But if he gets going, uh, look out.
So I'll ask about Colin. We have a columnist coming in the next hour, but let me ask you this too. We're talking to Ernie Green from the Topeka Capitol Journal. Since you've covered the league a while now, and the team you say a coach is bringing the the uh, the roster down to about six or seven to play. Arizona's doing the same thing. How do they sustain this because it's so physical and it's not easy. It's not an easy physical, it's a tough physical. By the time March comes around.
Yeah, I think that's going to be the big question is whether they can whether they can play those kinds of minutes and.
Keep it going that right now.
Other than during the streak, the only close game they had was Arizona at Arizona State.
I mean they've won the KU game the other day.
It's an eight point game, but it was fifteen points late, so we made a little bit of a run. So they've really kind of dominated during the stretch, which you didn't see, and then they found a way to win at Arizona State.
Not helped that.
Arizona State miss missed two free throws at the end, but I mean those are the kind of games they were losing.
Yeah, early on, So you guys are well are you guys because you're not part of the team, but three eleven and ten or twelve and eleven's like that.
Twelve and eleven, No, that's their first time above five hundred since I think since in Gen. I'm trying to think if it was in December or January.
Well, let me ask you because I heard I was watching some of the highlights stuff from the weekend and now because you guys they're playing so well five and zero in the last five that people are talking NC Double A tournament.
Yeah, we've asked them, and we also asked Bill self about that afterwards what he and basically, they've dug themselves quite a hole. I mean, if they can keep playing at this level, they have a chance, but they're gonna have They're at twelve and eleven. They definitely got some work to do if they can keep keep it up there. Definitely playing well enough. As Jang said, he thinks they could win games in the NC Double A tournament.
But yeah, right now, resume is not there yet.
Right.
Another thing, Arizona was rocking on Saturday night. It usually does for big games, and Texas Tech was a big game. I'm assuming that place is going to rock on tomorrow, right.
It'll be interesting to see because really the Kansas game was their first sellout of the season. Because they they have struggled and especially with weak night games.
I'm guessing it was.
It was really loud Saturday, and I'm I mean in the past they have been. I'm guessing with Arizona's what a six game winning streak, and they're arguably the hottest team in the country right now. It'll be interesting to see if if the fans turn on. I'm sure with the students will because they've I think they've definitely bought in. But part of the problem with with Kansas State is you've got where they're located. They really count on people
from out of town. And also we've got looks like snow in the forecast starting tomorrow night, so that may keep some people home, but.
I would expect it to be a pretty good crowd.
So are these are I'm sure to interrupted, But are these new teams Arizona this year, He's last year. Are they still kind of considered strangers, kind of coming to dinner or is it you kind of sense the Big twelve ish rivalry already?
Well, I don't know that they've developed any specific rivalries yet. It's kind of early for that, but I think I think people are excited about having the new teams.
And then of course Texas and.
Oklahoma leaving who have been in the league for long since, well Oklahoma way longer, but since Texas since the Big twelve for him in ninety six.
So you you you covered the way you've been there since ninety eight. I can't remember. Arizona hasn't played these guys too much. I remember covering him in the late maybe ninety nine, two thousands, Tom Tom something Tom. He was a big coach, Tom maybe mar Berry. What's his name, tom Asbury Asbury Asbury?
Oh that was now we're going backways.
Yes, yeah, it was a good guy. It turned out to be a friend of mine. He was helping with officials here. I guess in twenty fourteen Kansas State played the issue, so the juve, so the rivalry, the meetings haven't been much.
No, that was the only In fact, I think that's the only one in this millennium, because I think before before that, the last game I think was ninety nine.
I looked at up.
That must have been the tom asbro Yeah, yeah.
But I think what they played in Maui and uh two thousand and fourteen. I think he brought them in ninety that was yeah, and that was the year. I don't think I was covering them, so.
Right, okay, so before you go, what do you think is gonna happen tomorrow? Give me a prediction if you got one in you.
I did, Yeah, I did my prediction for my story earlier, and I picked. I picked Arizona by five, I think like seventy eight to seventy three or something. Now I'm starting to become a believer in this case state team. But I think Arizona has showed over a longer stretch.
Plus I think maybe I don't it looked like their non conference schedule, they didn't look their record wasn't that good that I've got to think that really toughen them up for this league because they've just run right through the through this league and I don't see any real sign of them.
Well, I applaud you because you're a true journalist, not going on not am not a homer one because I'm the same wait with Arizona. I've covered the team since in ninety one as a journalist. Now I'm on the radio and I'm not a believer of this Arizona team. Although I'm headed in that direction, I guess, and like I say, well no, in March because that's when it all matters, like at Kansas, it all matters in March.
Yeah, well, I think this would definitely If Case State can, I would consider it's still an upset if they can. If they can win this game, then that would definitely help their resume. I do know that three of their five games during the streak have come against the wins that come against ranked teams or teams that were ranked at the time. West Virginia, Iowa States still up there, and then Kansas. They have played played well against some
pretty decent teams. But I just don't know that they've come up against the likes of Arizona.
Yeah, okay, you appreciate your time, good luck, stay warm over there, and we'll see what happens tomorrow.
Okay, thanks for having me.
Thanks, I appreciate good stuff. I'm not too sure he doesn't believe it. And then but they're five, and they're five, and oh the last five Arizona is what they are? Seven and the last seven. Yeah, it should be a fun game. It's gonna be crazy, yeah, I mean, it's not gonna be a pushover. I mean, you know, if you'd asked us a couple of weeks ago, this would be like a nothing game.
I mean, it's like this really is a it's gonna be a tough one. I think it away out snowstorm to keep people away. Probably probably, I mean darkness. Yeah, Arizona people. Well, that's Manhattan. Kansas is not like Manhattan, New York. It's not Manhattan, New York. It's definitely not Manhattan, New York. Right, you got to count on the people out of town. Oh yeah, I've been to Manhattan, Kansas and tell I think I've driven through to get to Lawrence.
But yeah, I mean, you know, it's like different. No, they're there, big hotel is like the Fairmont Airfield, you know, in sweets. Uh, you know, I mean good hard working people. I mean, I don't want to say that things about my hand Kansas, but they're not a lot there. Yeah, okay except for college basketball. College basketball. Now there is college basketball there, you know, and you got the big red one fort Rally, But for Riley, Kansas is there. I think it's still named for Rally or it will
be again, Uh, depends on how things going. We don't want to get into that. That's opening up a very different can of worms. But but you know, you said, there's you gotta try, Like he said, you got to travel in there to to get there. I don't know if they're going to be That's what I was kind of trying to get at. I don't I don't see the passion for people to race in a snowy night to get to.
They They did a Cincinnati and West Virginia the same issue. There was a really bad weather and Mildred this watching from home that paps beer and give it to Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, it's like, hey, okay, yeah, Arizona's a good team, but you know, we'll watch them in March. You know, that was kind of interesting thing.
I haven't seen Kansas Cate either that much, but he hadn't seen Arizona And yeah, I got a stamp ten o'clock or twelve o'clock to watch them.
Yeah, well, that's sing about it. I mean, no one's staying up that late, especially not Arnie, Yes, especially not me. Let's go, we gotta take a break.
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Breaking down all the uses and os. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Hey, welcome back towing the ball here at Fox Sports fourteen fifty Im Si Vera and today with me is.
Look talkative Mike Quinn. Yeah, it's it's like, hey, you're not saying anything. Hey, you're saying too much. You need to be the just right person. Yeah, that's why I have one. Was exactly whin to talk because I give him the God Yeah, exactly exactly. He's open for a little bit of Well when I first got here, I never got I never got the high sign and it was never my turn.
It was like he needs the Goldie LI likes not too too had to yes, right, beauty sleep over here.
Yes, Hey, if you guys want to call and kind of eat up our time, that's why too five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty Uh. We already have John come in with a pretty good call at the beginning of the show. Your thoughts on the win on Saturday night, What a great game. The crowd is rocking, man, crowd is rocking and the Texas Tech coach, Uh said exactly that. I thought he was spot on. I thought he was very great with his insight too. Oh yeah, and very gracious loser.
I feel like a lot of of the coaches that I've come to, Michael Ye have said that.
Yeah. I think this is the first time it actually had merit to it.
Yeah, because I mean it was even with the the fire, the fire panic alarm or whatever that happened pregame, and that crowd was ready to go.
Yeah, they stood that entire I think it was a ten minute delay, it was, it was. It was a good night. Yeah. Yeah, I heard the coach was pretty good, gracious, gracious, Yeah, yeah he was. Uh he was in in our grill. Yeah yeah, Hey, you and I and the ball who is this? Yeah?
And Henry uh Howard and Steve Trust.
What's going on?
Hey?
Hey?
Yeah? Because I was listening to Jefferies make the call because I don't watch it on TV.
Is I don't get it at home?
Yeah, he goes he's averaging ten points. I'm already predicted he's good by the end of a conference plays in me averaging over thirteen and that was before the last game.
Yeah.
No, he's fantastic. If you didn't see it, I don't know how how Brian.
Didn't he dumped, he dumped. I know, he got a couple of dumb No.
How did he describe how he was playing, because he was playing out of his mind?
Yeah, I just said he got a couple of days Henry gets the ball, don't say, oh slams at home.
Yeah, he was. He was fantastic.
I mean, you can't but I don't know if you can sustain it, because he had he had been very good and then he wasn't for a while and now he was.
But you because I got the before even played, I got the scouting report from you, Steve and and the and the like that he was. You know, he was a highly recruited guy. He was supposed to be pretty good. But if you you know, I always talked to Jay and you, the big guys just take.
A while to get going. A lot of these Euros.
They have they play a lot more involved and and you know, on a.
Higher level than than you know.
Then the high schools can provide here in the States.
Yeah, I don't know.
Vic kind of texted me about this too when I first saw Henry and I spoke to him at the media day, and you can see him play, and you can see him move. He had a lot of fluidity. He could run run the court very well. He had
a lot of skills. If you remember, I haven't written the story because I don't know if it's out there, but when he was younger, when he was younger, had to be about twelve thirteen, he's he was a smaller dude, and then he had this huge gold spurt, so he had to learn how to handle the ball.
He was a gardish yeah.
And and and then then all of a sudden he became this seven footer and so he had those skills.
So he handles it all well. He's very mobile around the basket. He's just a dude, yep.
And Vic's saying he really likes I remember last week when he was saying it that I was mentioning to you and Jay on Friday that Vick says, yeah, he's got to get the ball underneath and gunk and blah blah blah. We know he's doing that, but how what Howard says? And of course Steve could be Yeah, if he hits those threes, it's always gravy and he's a lot of games, he said, five hundred percent because he only takes.
Two or one.
Thousand percent because he only takes one and hits it. Yeah, so and that's that's that's pretty doable. He doesn't need to take more than that.
Sure, Sure, it's just the time and circumstances of those three.
Exactly.
And I think he's only going to get take some more shots and you warm ups and practice, and I think he'll be good, well off.
Yeah, hey, thanks for going to the show on Friday for a show at the Oh yeah yeah.
Yeah, because hey, Vick, we missed you. I was expecting to see you there.
Okay, okay, thanks, all right, appreciate it takes the call. Yeah. I think part of the thing too is ugo. We got another call? Cool, Hello, you're on the air.
Nine on the ball. Who's this?
Hi?
This is Frank.
Can you hear me in the car?
Yeah?
Hey Frank? Hey Frank?
Hey, Well is that real?
The what is it?
No?
Eight victories?
Uh?
Seven, ten, ten and the big twelve?
I don't know, is it real?
How does it feel? How does it feel?
It feels unreal? After the how they started and uh, and you know we down this road before Usually it's the other way around that they win, you know, ten or twelve games, you know, unscathed. Uh, and then and then they go into a dump.
So I like it.
I'm gonna enjoy it.
So you believe in this team, I mean, are you you? Are you a believer?
Now?
I don't know that I'm believer when I've been when we get to the n c A. As you know, we've been down this most too many times. So uh, they say they still rely too much on the three pointier. When the three pointers out there there, they can be a little lost, and uh, luckily they've recovered and won.
Yeah, so we'll see what happens. You know, you sound like jam the football program. You've been sneaking enough times. You're not too shy about or not too keen about following them.
Uh.
You know one thing earlier worried about. It seems like I cleaned it up a little bit was the beginn bounds pass, you know after a made basket. They were having a lot of time with that, a lot of trouble with that. So I hope that they've they've solved that problem because that's gonna hurt of if they get the other team gets a few steals.
Yeah, we'll see what happens. Yeah, okay, thanks Frank, thanks for calling. Appreciate it.
Frank, you take care, Take care.
Bye.
Anybody else want to call? We saf some time? Right, we had about five minutes. You know, we can go to the end of the hour. I didn't realize this. We can go as long as we want, but that time takes up on the top ends, so you know, same time, I guess. Yeah, okay again, if you'd like to call five two oh four one, six seventy four forty Big game tomorrow. Kind of reviewing Saturday's game, I'm kind of like doing looking forward and looking back as well.
But I was thinking, this is one of those games, like Tuesday Nights games where everybody had a hand in it. Like you said, I didn't mention love, and all the other hands were.
Yeah, no, no, no they were. I mean, and you you could see it there. It's like everybody's stepping up and uh and making pleasure. I will tell you some right now. This team has been running on a waka, you know, I mean, it's his energy, his energy, the fact that like underneath you know, you can kind of him getting a board uh, get the hell out of the way.
I'm coming in. Yeah, it's it really is one of those things where you sit there and it's like you, you know, hopes are down and then there's a waka, you know.
I mean, it's really something else. You gotta call who's this? We don't if you want to call back, please, we do.
Gotta go. Who's this?
Vic?
What's the one issed you Friday? Obviously you heard.
How I know? Man, I just couldn't make it down there. I definitely get down to the next one though, when you have it.
Okay, what's you one of your thoughts?
So my thoughts are and this is a Twitter pool question for you, Steve and Mike. What's a bigger Advantag's the Crevious injury or the Gayden Delora injury.
That's a good question.
Oh, I'd say the Delora the Delora, Yeah, because that kind of transformed the whole program.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you.
And we won't know we won't know the results of the Creevious thing until you know, six weeks, seven weeks, whatever weeks.
Yeah, that's very true. But uh hey, but I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna give you props again. You called it that over a year ago. You said Henry was a stud and and it's come to fruition.
Man.
Yeah, that guy.
You know, I even asked you and the press commas and I said, how do you how do you have this seven foot string.
Bean become a beast? Because I walk is beast.
But Henry was a big, thin beast Saturday night.
Oh yeah.
But see he's dunking everything. He I mean, we haven't had a guy that's gone to the ring dunk stuff like that for a long long time.
And I didn't even tell you maybe maybe and he was just this thing was Lauren Woods.
Yes, yeah, probably exactly. I'll tell you what that another guy laying it up, even bollow a strong and he was would lay it up and get swatted.
And yeah it'll fall down. He fall down up. Yeah that time. That the time that he reaches out and slams it, you know, I mean that stepping like what did I call him stretch armstrong, which was a great, great reference unfortunately was on Twitter and no one read it the as we were mentioning. But Vic, You're absolutely right. I mean, it's he's he he he goes to dunk the ball. I mean, O, what a what a concept
for a seven footer. You know, it's like he's not playing games, he's making the basket exactly so.
And then see if you asked about what's been the turnaround, and everybody said everything from love to Tommy. But the biggest thing is that previous injury and Henry coming into his own.
Yeah no, no, you're right.
I mean certain things happened for a reason, right, and this may have happened.
For a reason.
Yeah. So, but great show.
Man, you guys later.
Thanks about that. Thanks.
We might know. No more calls. We've got about two minutes, three minutes. If you guys want to call, we got one more quick call in. If not, you can call us on the other side of the hour. We have breaking news. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to talk about. We ain't even talked about.
Na say, it's like anything else happened this weekend. This is a local show man, this little it is local. Yeah, you know the super Bowl, It's like when it's is everything. How many times did they say America and that super Bowl in the in the lead up. I don't know if you watch the My wife watched the four and a half hour lead up to that thing. It's like, oh my god, yeah, more than sport. It's like, yeah, more than Taylor Swift. Yeah, okay, no, it didn't count anyway. Okay, yeah, no, no.
If you want to listen to the other stuff, the super Bowl, that's another channel. Yeah something, we're local late breaking. We are, so we have a late breaking, we have break your News by Juan and then we're gonna have Michael lev at the other side.
You know. He said we sat.
Next to each other for the game, we think alike, which is kind of scary. I didn't read this call slowly. I typed this slowly because I know you read slowly. Okay, let's go before I insult you.
Boy.
Yes,