Monday, August 28, Hour 1

This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalis on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions katz R two side and iHeart Radio Station Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jakin's also Welcome to a new week. The week, the week. We've been waiting for this for since UCLA and USC left

conference. Do you think Jed has been waiting for this week? Yeah? You know, you can tell that they're excited. They feel like they got something, you know, some good stuff happening, and this is the way we start to find out. Well, we have a lot of clips, but today, let's let's talk about who we have on today, Okay, because it's a big day. Yeah, so many you've heard and maybe some of you didn't because I know I talked top people to day who didn't.

But a su self imposed a ball band yesterday and people lost their minds rightly. So, so we're gonna have Hoade Robino, who's been on our show. He's the publisher of Devil's Digest one of the fans sites up at as U two get a reaction from him and see how fans are reacting up there. But I can tell you it's not good, particularly for a couple of guys named Michael Crowe and Ray Anderson the president and a d at au So who was losing their minds. Fansy, well, fans are losing their minds.

Your ASU fans are losing their minds. But other people are saying, what the hell were you doing all this time? And why did you wait until now to impose this penalty on the people who are there and we're not there when all this happened. You could have done this last year, when when herm was still there and his coaches were still there and those players were still there. You could have done it last year. They they they cleaned house. And now the guys who were hung oh who hung around are the

ones getting punished. That's what people, And it's not just a SU people. National media is going Ray Anders and you are a piece of crap. Yeah, well, I understand that. I understand that, and it all kind of makes sense. It will a lot makes sense a lot. You don't do it at the time. I don't know, did you ever want to do the same thing they imposed when coach was still here, Sean was still there. But my whole thing is, Jay, I'm not going to

the problem this year. Yeah, I'm not going to the problem this year. But I'm gonna band myself. It's gonna beout myself from going to the problem. You know, when somebody said that, it said asked that asked me that, saying, well, what's the big deal. They're not going to a bowl game anyways? But you know what the players and coaches think they can, right and it's a goal. Yeah, it's a goal for them that they hang out there for these guys and say, Okay, this

is what we're shooting for. And they've taken that away from those guys, and those guys shouldn't have had this taken away from. So we're gonna have Hode robino on from a issue covers them under one of the great two websites. I don't know he was. He may have been there when Dillingham was talking. Did you see that clip? Uh? Some people said he was very upset. I thought he's very candid actually, just kind of when talking

the coach, the coach talk what did I say. I didn't so, so I don't know if he was upset upset, but he was very forthright and what he discussed taking small jabs at whoever made a decision. Obviously he was involved, he was not involved, but the powers that be kind of can I screw people over? They do? And that was it was just the stupidest thing, because you knew this was coming. You knew you were in big trouble. They've got video of them breaking the rule. This is,

this is just this may not be enough. I mean, it's it is for self imposement. But the other then might commit out here, and well then you've also got other people saying, hey, wait, Tennessee committed sewer violations and waited and didn't get a bullet. But what are you doing? I mean, look, I I you know, I don't want to be the one to say it. I love I like Michael Crowe. Okay, I don't like any much about a SU but I like Michael Crowe.

I've dealt with him, you know, I've interviewed him, I've talked to I like him, and I think he's done a lot of great things for Arazem State University. But he may lose his job, but both of them, Ray Anderson will lose his job at some point. He's might lose his job because this was when you go back to his his involvement and being sort

of one of the causes of the PAC twelve conference dying. Yeah, okay, and then this, well, when you piss off the when you piss off the sports donors that you know, you can't piss those people off, whether you're the president of the university or just like you can't. Over the

last few months, we've learned a lot about mister Crowe. Yeah. To me, it sounds like a complete lack of awareness of how much athletics means to a university like Arizon State. Whether you're not a sports if you're not a sports page, you say, well, that's crap that it means that much. Regardless of what you think, it means that much. Yeah, you know, the front the front door or the front porch of the universe.

Just gonna say that, right many people think that, and rightly so rightly so it's not about the academicsty you know it is, but it isn't. But okay, so we have quote Rubino. The thing is they've been in trouble for a while, then nothing's really happened, and then in the second hour, we're gonna have a local guy, Michael lev who's done some great job, a great job filling in for or replacing kind of Greg as a columnist. I thought his column yesterday or today, I'm not sure when

it was published on the Doctor Blitz was fantastic. They went to ash Cruisis. I hope they didn't pay any of my fines for me. Actually, I hope they did pay some of my platform. They said, everybody there knear you. Yeah, sure, sure they did. Yeah, is that

good coming back? But so it'll be fun football. Michael ran in the in the in the Star as a daily start special section college football Special sect Cancesterday he went through the He went through the twelve games Arizona, twelve games, predicted a winner of each game, and he came out on the other end up with them going seven and five. So he picked an upset that you know, we know everyone's gotta gotta pull pull off a couple of upsets. So we'll go through those games with him as well. So a lot

lots of talk about its game week. We're ready to go, man, Okay, yeah, hell yeah, I will have a couple of clips here. So do you have anything put into from today? We talked to Loot Loot. Yeah, let's get right into that. Uh. You know. He he just talked about how everybody's ready to go. Everybody's healthy, they're they're they're excited, they're happy to not be hitting each other. But here's what he had to say, just talking about his team headed into this game.

Our goal is to play really good football. Everybody's healthy, so I would expect that all eighty five scholarship players we'll be ready to go. I don't think there's a not that I can think of right now on our injury list. So all eighty five players are ready, and we're expecting to have a battle on Saturday night. We had one a couple of years ago. I think our team's a little different than it was a couple of years ago. I know their team is different. It seems as if there's been a

lot of transfers that have come and gone on both programs. But as he continued to you know, watch their tape. What you do know is their head coach is an outstanding defensive coach. I've known coach Paul for a while or none of him, and he's been a Pac twelve defensive coordinator. And they brought in a new defensive coordinator from BYU who's also done a great job defensively over his time, whether that be at Oregon Stay, whether that be

at b YU and other places. And then they have the same offensive coordinator, coach flew Grad that was there two years ago. I think he has some history with some of our coaches from us D days. So it was it'll be a good battle Saturday night, but our team is certainly excited about the opportunity to get back on the field and you know, do a great job at home. So I was gonna ask the question that Dave Kelly asked

right away. So I was, I screwed this question. What's the one thing or two things you remember from that night of any of you outside of the loss? That their third string quarterback was better than Arizona's first string quarterback. That better, that was better than both of Arizona quarterbacks that played that game. If that's what you remember, that's what I remember. Yeah, and then you're being upset leaving the Oh I was so mad. Yeah,

I mean I was really mad after the seventy to seven game. But I was at home, right, I was at home. I cracked open some alcohol and you know, got over it. But I can't remember being more angry leaving Arizona Stadium than I was that game that night. So let me say for me, it was it was the post game interview when Jed came in and he looked like death in the family. It was he was. It was bad. It was bad. I'm thinking, and I'm thinking to

myself with weird we're masks. I'm thinking to myself, oh is he in sober? Is he in over his head? And I'm thinking, holy crap, because you don't do that, and that that is the thing that I thought. I thought, you know, at that point, I thought as going to make the right higher. But then I went to what David Kelly was It was the first question, so immediately went to go to the NAU game. It was was that the night you realize how bad it when you

have that. And here's here's what he had to say. Well, you know I think that two years ago. Each week, you know, you learn a little bit more about your team where they're at as a program. Certainly, you know the last game in twenty twenty before we arrived, we recognized that this program was not in a good spot. And then you start losing a couple of the best players that played in that game or didn't play

in that game. But you know, with Brightwell going to the NFL and Lopez going to the NFL, and then really the rest of the team, uh that was back lived that loss and then lived a bunch of losses throughout you know, their college careers. So yeah, I certainly realized what a what a rebuild it was going to be. U we talked about all year one. We called the year zero for a reason. We felt like we

had to strip it down to the studs start building it back up. I thought last year we made good progress in the build and in that process of trying to get better every single week, finished winning two out of the last three last year, finished with some really good football players on the roster, and then added some more good players. So I do believe we're in a good spot this year going into this game and recognizing that two years ago,

uh, it's certainly a different team. Yeah. I think that's the whole thing, right right. They have the total total revamp of the team you think. You think, Jay, that this group of talented, more talented players are much talented or better than what any of you has no right you would like to think, yeah, because even on a bad day, even two years ago, the one thing you think is Okay, everyone doesn't have the quality of talent, but still better than any of you. Got pushed

around that It was just unbelievable. They got pushed around that night. It was terrible. So Damian Alameda from k KA well D asked him the next great question followed up that followed up that one with the next great question, which was what do you remember about after the game any It was Jed's response, well, you know, I think that I remember that I knew that we had to find a way to get better fast, and that we had to put that game behind us, as we have to put all games behind

us that we don't win. And I think the rest of that night went into watching film and evaluating our talent and making decisions on what type of team we have, what type of team, how resilient of players are they willing to just see this game as one of twelve on the schedule, and were they able to find a way to come back and play extremely hard the next week, which they did. We spent our focus on that that evening and

all the other evenings. But yeah, you you you get to a point that there was this lingering black cloud over the program of a losing streak and of games that we didn't get a cut winning. We didn't win games that we thought either A we could have won or be people expected us to win. And unless you're in that locker room, unless you realize where we're at, we were rebuilding it all and now I think we're in a place that

we have done a good job as a program. Our coaches have done a great job of bringing good talent, and our players have done a great job of learning our system. They've done a great job of taking care of their bodies. Our training room was packed today of guys just getting ready for a game week. And I just love the player's attitude right now. Yeah, which is which is cool? Cool? I'm thinking after that first game,

are you thinking? I just remember Loot after getting into the practice and Pim put in his heads in his hands, in his head and saying, what the hell did I get myself into? I'm sure Jed felt that they had to have felt that. But then on on the flip side, if you think about okay, he says, okay, it's really bad, and so it can only get better, right, right, But it didn't seem like

you could well did. Over the course of the season, you could tell it was getting better, but it wasn't going to be great that year because they just didn't have the guys, right, And then when they won the Cal game with a depleted Cal team from COVID, you were just relieved that they weren't going to go oh and twelve. That's all. That's all you were happy about. They won the game. You weren't saying, Okay,

we're on the right track. You're just saying, at least they won a damn game, and let's finish this season, move on to the next. And then next year, of course, they did much improved. And I think you're one of you're saying is you could tell why they sucked on offense because they had no players on offense. They did yeah the first year, but yeah, right, well, you know people were saying he's a terrible

play caller. Well, if you don't got players, you can't be a good play call it, you know, and and you know the you know, the quarterbacks from they will go back to pass. They look down the field for one guy and then then then they'd either run or throw it, throw it in the in the end to the side. So you know, it's just that's just what they were, that's just what they had. You know, I knew all this was gonna come up about Nau. Uh, you know, because of the game, right of course, that we were

going to go back to this is what happened back in the day. But you know, I think they can look that loss will always always be there, just like seventy to seven. Loss will always be there. But you know, baby and a su last year took some sting out of it. I think if they handled Nau the way we all expect him to, it won't be forgotten, but everybody will feel better about it. They're eighteen and two against the right, don't make it eighteen and three back all right,

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Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip Just Surgeon I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to One on the Ball you Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakin's own snow and unfoll We have holed Robino from Devil's Digest and Rivals. How are you holding. I'm very great, Stee, thanks for having me out. WHOA wow, Well, a lot of things going up in Tempe. You went to the press conference or the pseudo

press conference from the head coach a couple of days ago or yesterday? How was that? Yeah, the press consence was actually yesterday. As you know, Kenny Dellingham was informed at six thirty Sunday mornings from two hours before practice was about to begin that day about the self imposed posts in band that Arizona State that did place on itself is obviously League going back to the ends of the investigation that started in May of twenty twenty one dealing with recruiting violation allegations

that did take PLA mostly through the twenty twenty season where there was an extended recruiting dead period due to the club of nineteen pandemic, and Kenny was naturally very very very upset about this. He did not did not see this coming, obviously when you have Sundayed in the first practice of game of game week. But this is an open nerdence four days away on Thursday. This is

definitely not the type of news that you do on here. I think Gillingham has done a great job ever since surviving it to him be really changing the culture, really able to energize the fan base. And this is exactly what you would expect from an alumna's head coach to begin with. And it was definitely a very very deflating news for Arizona State for for invercation, any dealing in particular to get this news. I mean, we all know about the

Friday news dumps. Sunday morning news dump is probably even more addressing. What was you know, you're a fan, you run a fan site. What was your your personal first reaction when you when this thing came out? Well, my first reaction, and you know it's it's out there for everybody to see on a column that I have on my front page. It's really the

dereliction of duty of athetic director Ray Anderson. And I know, maybe from the outside looking in, when you say a headlong like that, when you see that narrative, you think it's maybe humprobolic, you think it's just really

trying to be dramatic just because a dramatic statement was made that day. But it's much more than that, and you know not to respond the article you know verse my birth, But it basically comes down to the whole point of the higher of herman Words by Ray Anderson and just reeked from nepotism from day one. And as we know, her Edwards while he was head coach of

the NFL, was a client of agent Ray Anderson. So to say that Anderson's judgment was really clouded, for lack of a better term, from day one when it came to her Edwards and all the actions and more importantly in actions that he took was really was really a narrative that you know, may have started out as a conspiracy theory, but as the tenure of her Medwords proceeded more and more, I mean, we just got to see that inaction.

Unfortunately, and when investigations started and may have twenty twenty one, it does seem that Hermedwards was at teplon in other words, like all the violations that took place, it was his assistance. He you know, he can't see evil or see an evil, and that was space to get a narrative that we heard all throughout that season. In spring of twenty twenty two, and this was told to me by a well placed source in athletic department Herm

Edwards, and I don't fault in for fooling that way. This was absolutely fatigued by this ends of the delay investigation that is still on going out as you speak, and obviously was still in effect back in twenty twenty two because he basically SI, his defensive coordinator Zach Hill, and his defensive coordinator Antonio Pierce was also the recruiting coordinator, resigned in a matter of thirty days or less from each other. And obviously at that point of the season, there's

really anything else for you to sell. There's really no hope that can you can cling on to even have a decent season. Now, Randison not accepting her medwards resignation at the time, Okay, maybe it's a matter of you know, he didn't have a suitable replacement and really didn't want to make a

bad situation worse. But the fact that that did not raise a red flag right there, right then for Ray Anderson thinking ahead, thinking to what the sanctions as a result of his investigation may or not be, and not self imposed at Pusneason Band right there, right then, in the spring or even summer of twenty twenty two, that is absolutely inexcusable, and the only exclusion I can come up with that he just did not want to taint the legacy

of his good form Herm Edwards. And here we are. You have a first year head coach in Kennedy Dillingham who had a long list of challenges to deal with ever since he got hired in November of last year. But now you're saddling him with the biggest challenge that he has on his plate, while really by default absolving Herm Edwards that never had to deal with that challenge back in twenty twenty two. There's so many tangles in this web here, right,

So Ray hires Herm and Krow hires Anderson. Correct so, and we'll get to both of those guys in a second. But the level of hate, it's not the right word or distasting anger? What the fans are? Ray? Is it? What eighty to twenty? What is? What's the percentage? Steve? It's it's unfortunately and maybe not surprising, the fifty fifty because because because I think that that people are quite mad about Michael Crowe just

really letting all this happening because they absolutely right. Ultimately, Ray Anderson does report back to Michael Crowe. And it does seems that Ray Anderson is absolutely letting HERM Edwards. It is staffed, does run rough shot you know, you know, do you know, do whatever they want to do when the consequence has come out. It's the assistance and the junior level staff was in the recruiting department that the ones that are getting the boot. But but here's

here's herm Edwards. Uh that it only took one of the world lost in program history, I lost to Eastern Michigan in week three of last year to finally have him in as few part ways. Oh and by the way, he got a golden parachute of four point four million dollars. Now we have to reduce buyout. Yes, but I don't think the AFU fan base really really cares about this, and they just to say that Michael Crowe's the one,

the one that has to sign off on all this. And if we're talking about the level of disdain to Michael Crowe, let's not forget this whole fiasco of Arizona State wanting to stay in the Pac twelve and not wanting to go to the Big twelve. This is all Michael Crowe. I mean, that's one thing. Actually, I don't fault Ry Anderson at all, but it's been well, it's been well documented that both the presidents of Arizona and AFU had a whole different approach to departing the Pac twelve and going and going

to the Big twelve. So even if you thought that Michael Crowe was handling everything okay when he came to Ray Anderson and the football program, I think thinks the soap opera that didn't involve ASU wanting by the skin of their teeth to actually stay in a dying conference at Pack twelve and not going to the not going to the Big twelve really just created a lot of bit trail over there. But but again it's you know, I don't think it's really a

better answer of who we should blame more Michael Crowe or Ray Anderson. I think I think both of them have really been at fault with numerous actions and maybe more importantly in actions when it comes to the athletic department and the football program. Is the simple that said, you and many others immediately were calling for Ray Anderson's head, And you know, but as you said, I

mean, is Michael Crowe in trouble. You know, we talked about, Yes, it's a university, and he's the president of a university, and there's a lot more to a university prettily won the size of a su uh than athletics. But you know it's been said down here a number of times. President Robin's down here, said and said a number and Dave que said, athletics is off in the front parts of a university. Certainly is here, Certainly is at ASU. Is Michael Crow in trouble with all of this?

Look, I think Jay, you really hit on the head in the statement that you made through that question. To really dissements a university president, they have to do a whole lot worse than bungle athletics than really not hold the athletic director to account. This is going to be a lot more that

needs to take place. And look with that, with Everyzona state finally achieving that AU status, getting that medical school that they fought decades to get, with that happening earlier this year, to dismiss Michael protest a few months later just because of how he handled or mishandled I should say athletics, that's nest really not going to fly And look, I mean I have, as you can tell a ready, I have a lot of criticism towards Michael crow a

lot of crisis and towards Ray Anderson, but most so realistic as far as what personnel actions can ultimately take place. I cannot see the Arizona Border regions, uh, really having Michael Crowe resigned, let alone flat out firing him just because of how my handle's athletics it's gonna take. It's really gonna take

a lot more than that. And again you talk about the academic achievements and give with the medical School being one of the freshest and most significant academic achievements popping under Michael Crowe's watch, and I'm sorry that negates and then some and he mishandling them take place with athletics. Okay, I actually like him, so I mean, you know, but uh yeah, but this is this

is this is bad and this will linger. Sure, yeah, I do agree, and and and I'm sure that folks that are displeased with Michael Crowe when it comes to athletics, their voice is going to carry louder and further more than any folks are really disappointed with how he handles an academics, how he handles the growth of Arizona State. But again, I'm I'm just really trying to be realist. I'm really trying to deal as much as possible with

facts and not trying to spin any narrative in one direction or another. I have a hard time that the Arizona Border Regions would take any action against Michael Krowe, even reprimand him if there's such an action in the by laws, just because of what happened at Athletics. Now the Border Regions to make question Macauel Crowe, hey, what's going on with Ray Anderson because we're seeing you know, one, two, three, four five happening happening under his watch.

But I don't think the Border Regions would force Michael Crowe's hand to dismiss Ray Anderson. And I said many times before that I don't see Michael row taking any action in terms of parting ways that Ray Anderson before the Insulat investigation

has concluded. Because guess what if folks were too pleased about the buyout that Herm Edwards did get, You're can be pleased when Ry Anderson gets a buy out because you cannot fire any of those individuals for cause, I e. Not give him a buyout until you have that solid paper trail of a concluded instant, the investigation and the kind of the consequences and the sanctions that the

doer rights from that. So until until everybody at that juncture, I think you just have to be really careful about about you know what, you know what you're wished for. But you know, if Michael Crow decides that he doesn't care about the optics of the buyout and he cares more about just having Trey Anderson part ways of Arizona States so the school can finally turn over the next page, I mean, I don't know if any fans would really would

really be mad about him about Bath. But going to my earlier my earlier point, there are a lot of Sun devel bands are not pleased at all with how Michael core has been handling a fletic because I'd like to see him down just because of a flitting. But I just don't think that's something that is really considered a realistic or plausible scenario at this point. So we have about ninety seconds left the stock football for a seconds, you remember that too,

What do you think they're gonna do. The over under for Vegas is five, just like it is for Arizona. I find that kind of strange given the situation. Yeah, I think that before the self imposed postseason ban, I thought Arizona State winning six games when you have a home game, when you have a couple of winnable road games, was really not the question. And I know this is overstating the obvious, but how does Arizona State

really really deal with his adversity ensure a game against Southern Utah? I'm first rather than not not really going to supply all the answers, but very two challenging. None of the conference games, which again luckily for I was on our set them at home, but at Oklahoma I'm sorry, against Oklahoma State and against President State, those are going to those are going to tell you a lot. And then you've got mam AT's the home ging against against the

USC in late September. But yeah, I mean to your point, I don't think that Arizona State winning winning six games and what would have been to eligible up until Saturday, I don't think really that's that's out of the question. But there's no doubt that as resilient as a lot of people think this team is the resiliency is going to be tested very earli ever here in September

against some against the quality competition starting next week obviously. But again I don't I don't think that even this postseason ban should really hurt it as this chances of winning six games, but the burden approof is absolutely on them in a major way. Well, Hold, it's always good to talk to you. Very clear, good question, good answers. We'll see you soon if you want to read holde Devil's digest right on rivals dot com. Yes, sir, all right, thank you, Oh, thanks so much, appreciate it.

Man, thanks, thanks, all right, good no, good stuff, good stuff, very candid stuff. Well, you know, and look, that's why I asked that, you know, the micro quoting. I've been thinking since yesterday that microcro is in big trouble because you can't piss off the sports, the athletics boosters because because they have they bring so much money into the athletic department and athletics do. The Ray Anderson hiring has been a

disaster from the beginning. Right, everybody thought it was great when he brought in HERM Edwards. He had a good first season, but it's big crap since then, on top of the cheating stuff, on top of he didn't want to be there, and now this isn't it ironic him? He and the Summons came in at the same exact time and they were both kind of disaster. Yeah for both teams. Oh yeah, okay, let's go all right. Thanks to Rodrebino Devil's diegest dot com. Give him a read.

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lot of stuff to talk about today, some interesting topics. Let's play his opening opening comments talking about ticket sales and and uh, you know, getting excited they're done with camp, all that kind of stuff. So, uh, he's talking about the expecting in the mid forties at the game on Saturday. So here were these were his opening comments his press conference today. But

it's good that camp is over. It's good that we're no longer hitting one another, and we have now an opportunity to be in game week and start Saturday night is right around the corner. At this point. It was nice to see football on Saturday. It was an enjoyable day to be able to watch and be reminded that college football is a great thing. And the chance to be able to get back out there this coming Saturday nights gonna be amazing.

I believe we'll have a great crowd. Sounds like we're over forty four thousand or something like that right now. I know Zonner Zoo passes are up fifteen hundred from last year. I think they're close to about seven thousand z Owner Zoo passes or are out right now. So that's pretty exciting stuff. And if we can keep that up. Obviously, you know we've talked about for two years. Can we get to this year three and make it a sellout season? So that's our goal. So that's our goal. He went

on. He went on to play the stuff we used to talk about, the uh you know, the eighty five players are health and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we talked. Abou says we left the room best time of year, and I know I'm asking somebody who might not agree with me. Oh call at the beginning of college football, like this week Saturday? Yeah or white No, Yeah, no, they'll give you a choice. Oh, give me a choice. Okay, the nub A tournament.

Oh god, you know see, man, it's a close call. It's a close call because that first day and not the first four right Thursday, the Thursday of games, getting up in the morning on the morning, I'm giving you. Okay, so you're in Vegas this weekend, Saturday, big games are a bunch of games, or the first day of the tournament. Yeah, I think you're going to NC double A tournament. I think you are. But I'll tell you what, I'm already excited about getting up at

six o'clock in the morning on Saturday morning and turning on game day. Yeah, of course, sure. Although I am already sick of Pat McAfee, but that's a whole another story. Really, I can't stand that guy. I think he's bad for the show. And it's just me. I'm not. Again, I've said a million times, I'm not the demographic, okay, but they've brought a level of circus to game day that it doesn't need.

Yeah, I haven't seen it. So is Corse still Well, he wasn't there on sat on Saturday, but yeah, I think he's still going to be there. But McAfee brings like a world championship wrestling approach. He's loud, outrageous, Okay, so so why do you think they brought him on for that appeal? So that my son would watch? But what's he bringing if your son's a smart man? Are smart? Got smart? They like him for what reason? Because he's loud and obnoxious and and different.

I thought the generation was smarter than that. I guess they're They're different. They like different stuff than we like. I don't know, but you know, but loud enough, they love rap. I mean, what do you oh? No comments? Well yeah again something right? Well yeah, I'm listening to some pit bull right but but but but the point, my point is is that he brings something to a younger generation of yours that they want

and we're not. We're not our generation. Then our generation is Herb Street and and and and Desmond Howard, maybe maybe even to a degree, League Courso just sort of a less outrageous approach to the show. What rhees Davis is what they what they were doing before, straight straightforward discussion, conversation like you and I have, you know, we that's what I don't need somebody yelling at me about anything that's happening in college football. Yeah, and that's

what you see, and that's what he does. I haven't seen any of it. He's loud and obnoxious, and maybe obnoxious in good work. But he's rowdy, he's loud, he's you know, he's yelling look at me. Yeah, And that's why I don't want to gain. I want to hear. I want to hear conversation. I want to hear stories. I want to hear you know, I want to hear I want them to hear talk about the PAC twelve. And I don't need a guy yelling at me to do that, right, No, I get it, I totally get

it. If that's the case, I'll have to listen to this weekend. But I I'm looking I'm still I'm still looking forward to. I'm not gonna set my alarm, but I know that I'm gonna wake up because I just do. On the first Saturday of college football, well on every Saturday of college foball I get up. It's like my brain knows game days about to come on. Get your ass out of bed. Well okay, yeah, no, I get it. So I'll listen and I have and I guests take my own opinion of it. But I hear you. I agree with

you. I wouldn't want to listen to it either. It's not informative, right, that's it. I mean, he's not informing me of anything. He's just been loud and trying to get attention. What's the point though, right? Yeah, okay, all right, we went off on a tang there. Uh you. Jed was asked about the clock rules. You know, the new One of the new rules is that they don't stop the clock on the first down except in the last two minutes of each half, much

closer to the to the NFL rule. Here's what Jed had to say about that. Oh, I love the new clock rules. I wish we just took the NFL timing and just did that. I think the I FIL's got to figure out on a lot of levels. I still don't understand why we fight that sometimes regarding trying to you know, I wish we'd put the field the same way, which the hash marks were the same, the goalposts were the same, and the timing was the same. But we're getting there.

We're getting there. I think the game will I don't know. I saw that the numbers were a little bit. The average play numbers were down from like sixty eight to sixty five or something like that. I think I've read, which is good. You know, I who wants to sit through a three hour and forty five minute football game, you know, sit through a three hour and seven minute football game and enjoy every minute of it. And

I think that's what we need. You know, we need the games to go every about three hours and ten minutes and go to the next one. And if we can do that and we can get the timing right, I think that's gonna be great for everybody. It's gonna be great for the fans, it's gonna be great for you guys, it's gonna be great for us.

And I don't think we'd missed much by not stopping the clock on every first down Jason or some of the other things that they've they've adjusted, but for the most part, that's the biggest difference is that we can actually just keep playing in the clock and keep running okay faster. I liked it faster like look. And I again, I've love, I've loved the baseball rules.

It's actually so much easier to start watching a baseball game because you're not watching a guy step out of the batter's box fix both of his batting gloves again, scratches, you know what. Let take his helmet off his head, comba's hair and get back in the box. You don't have pictures stepping off behind the mound, you know, looking around, wiping the sweat. You get the ball, you throw the ball, you throw it back, you pitch it again, And just the rhythm of a baseball game is so

much better. And it kind of felt like that with the game. Since it's a very small sample size. I think there were only seven games on Saturday, but there's already there was a you know, distinct reduction in the amount of time. I think I think there were five fewer plays, five fewer offensive plays on average in the games. That's that's it's ten minutes, eight ten minutes, you know, And if you keep doing that, and you know the team's move fast and stuff like that, the game will well,

well, here's the big thing. And I'm sure that's just been talked about the reviews, Uh, the review awful. One in uh in Uh, I think it would was the Rich Rod's game. Uh, there was a game. Uh, god, who's yelling? Who's somebody? Oh? It wasn't the the USC game. There were two reviews on one point. Is that the outside kick? Yeah, on the outside kick. That took ten minutes. Yeah, that took ten minutes. You can't have that. No, you can't do no, no, no. Fortunately, all right.

Jed was that's an interesting question by Justin Spears talking about all the gambling stuff that's been going on in Iowa and Iowa State, and he was asked, you know, are you talking to your players about gambling U and it was a definitive yes. We've brought in speakers regarding gambling. We brought in uh former FBI agent regarding gambling and to talk about how it gets monitored and the to how aware you must be. We've brought the chief security officer of

the university in to speak to our team. We have brought in general managers of NFL teams to talk about how it works in that league. So we've made a very clear decision how we must educate our players. And I saw what Kirk Ferrence said, I've seen what other guys have said in Iowa and Alabama and beyond and as a strange situation, but I will tell you that we have constantly reminded our players that you just can't gamble. Just don't try

to figure out a way to do it. Don't try to figure out, well, what if it's UFC fighting, or what if it's you know, blackjack or whatever, but i it just don't do it. Don't do it, and if you don't do it, you've got a great chance of not ever getting in trouble for doing it. Yeah, it's pretty simple, but it is simple. But you know, guys are guys, man, and uh, you know they they were doing it. And when when you talked about don't try and figure out a way to do it, that's what you

The Iowa guy's got in trouble for and actually got criminally charged for. That was you know, trying, you know, gambling under one of them was using his mom's name, one of them was using somebody else's name who were old enough to gamble, and these guys were gambling. He got caught and look, he has a homegrown a homegrown example. Stanley Barry Hill, you know, basically out of the NFL right now because of his gamble. Sure you know, of course, and his name and Justin brought that name up.

Yeah, you want to talk. I know we have to go here in a bit. We got about a minute. Yeah, but we'll talk about those stuff. But let's talk about something real quick. You and I kind of made a good effort give us that. For Friday night, we went to South You went to South Point and waited about ninety minutes or so by nine Evenue because we were there early. We got there early, sailgated. I got. I gotta throw a shout out to uh, to Tommy

Mendoza and his family. They I went to their tailgate, had some great tacos, nice stuff like that. But we tried to stick it out through lightning delays and stuff. And I had some grand I had some grandfather dude I had to take care of, and so I had to leave. I tell you about fifteen, waited about and they finally started about that time. Uh, we were leaving and they were kind of coming out of the locker room. Very impressive, very big team, very big team. But we'll

talk more about that down the road. We're gonna go see him again. We want I want to I want to see those guys. I was disappointed to miss the game at that point. Kicked the crap out of Yeah. And I was told by people who there was kind of nondescript. They just kind of what they did. Okay, all right, let's take our break. We'll be back. We're gonna have breaking news.