Monday, August 14, Hour 1

This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions kat z R two side and iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're jagon Zalis. Another day closer to the opening day, A couple of three weeks. We're inside of three weeks. Side of three

weeks. We went went to the the scrimage on Saturday. U saw what I saw. I don't know what I saw. I was hot. Well, we'll talk to Jed Fish about what he saw. Yes, yes, we have some clips, right, we have some clips. I did notice one thing, and I wrote about it on Saturday, was that this team looks much better than it has been the last few years. And of course during the summering years we saw what we saw and we didn't know until we saw it U, and then the last two years have been improved. From

someone's time, right, they're better. This team is different than all that because you're so athletic, and it's very noticeable, very it's noticeable very noticeable. It's hard to come from practice right, right, because you're playing against each other. They're doing these things. But but the things are doing to each other, it's very good. What does that mean. Well, they're they're scoring on each other, they're defending well against each other. It's not

just you know, one dominating the other. It's it's equal good. Yeah, that makes an you sense, it does, and you know, and that's one of the things about you know camp, right, is that there are you know, if the defense looks bad, if the offense makes the defense look bad, you worry about the defense. Right, the defense makes the offense look bad, you worry about the offense. So they're both gonna have their days. And I didn't get I couldn't go to the scrimmage.

I had a memorial service I had to go to. So that's my excuse. I'm sticking to it. And you're fine, you're fielding for you exactly. She wasn't. She complained about these. It was it was really bad, but you know so and that you know, so it's good and bad when you when you have that thing going on which you kind of like to see, is that they're kind of kind of even but you know, by all accounts, both sides look good, is what I hear? Yeah, no, no, no, And they have good spots. Delora looks sharp,

it looks very good. The wide receivers as you would expect him, look good. Of the running backs, Wiley looked fantastic, Speedy, Speedy Luke good at times. He needs to handle the ball better, but you know he's gonna make an impact. Finally, you know, a couple of years in, right, so they have people again again. Hey, you have to convince me, right, Mikey doesn't like it. Mikey's kind of

starting to like it. Yeah. You know. One of the things that to me is it kind of sticks out to me in terms of how to think about all this is that, you know, last year, you know, we felt, okay, they've got all these players, They've got t act they've got Jane Delora, they've got Speedy Luke, you know, all these guys, and it kind of like they weren't. They were good, but maybe not as good as you hope. They weren't good weekend and week

out. It's like, guys, this was the first time they were all playing, and now Delora had played, but not with these guys, right, and they were young and and and so it was kind of hard to you know, you you expected more from them, right, You expect a team act to be breaking touchdowns and and and he did a lot of great things and some of those things, you know, but he had a lot of you know, he was he was he was right out of high school. Now, you you know, when when you watch them this year,

you realize these guys got a year under their belt. And it shows. Yeah, right, it shows when you see them a little stronger, a little bigger, a little more confident and knowing more about what they're supposed to be doing. I was gonna ask you if you can go to Draft Kings, one of our big sponsors. Uh, it's just still at four or four and a half five whatever it was five five, So it went down. It went from five and a half down, So the numbers are are

not giving them favors. Right, If that's the case, I still like over five. I still like it, even though I bet against it with you. Uh, but even the Fins wins, I can't remember they only have like two and a half on that in at least I saw something, Yeah, I'll look, which is kind of strange because if they've gotten much better than you've already you some people last week we're talking eight, right, seven, eight? Well, Jake Fisher said eight, and then we got

a call right after that saying seven or eight, seven or eight. And I don't know if it's the kool aid or the Tucson fans talking and calling, but I don't see it that good. But six seems very reasonable, very reasonable. They're they're still at five five over five is plus one hundred, under five is minus one twin. Yeah, so they're favoring under five yeah, which which which you know? So the basically the odds are saying four or less. Yeah, So I think the locals over are taking the

over. The Nationals are taking the end, taking the under because of reputation, reputation. It's all about what have you done? Later? You know, you've you're you got five wins last you're great, But you're in the league. That's a lot tougher. Tell me what does Colorado? Can? You see what Colorado has? I can because everybody Nationals are favoring them, right. I don't know what their locals are, but some people are saying two three there, and it'd be an improvement. Colorado was at UH three

and a half three and a half. The under three and a half is minus one thirty five, so it's leaning towards towards under under, but it's it's three and a half and one. You know, Jay, You know Jay, because we talked about this, They're not gonna mirror Arizona in the second year. Jed did because they did let well, yeah, they went one eleven and flipped their roster completely over right, But but does that go to bad right? Right? In Arizona went from what they went they won

one and eleven to five to five. So I'm thinking Colorado could do that. We don't know that. We don't know, but but if Arizona could do it with what they had, there's a chance Colorado could do it. Which was it? I had thought at some point I might throw something on Colorado under under three and a half. Yeah, because I just think this is gonna be harder than anybody at Colorado thinks, particularly Dean Sanders, particularly his kid, the quarterback, this is gonna be harder, harder than it

is. But I wouldn't, you know, Dean Sanders is as extractor. He don't know you don't know what what you know, what he's gonna bring and what they're gonna do this whole year is gonna be fun to watch. And I say that not surprisingly because of all the good teams, right and everybody's gonna be after each other, this beating the last year. Right now,

it starts early for DN. They open up with TCCU. So you know, if TCU goes out and beat some forty one to seven, you know, you think, okay, you know, but if they don't, But what if they don't. But if they don't and and you know, they hang in there, let's say it's a you know, a thirty eight twenty eight game or something like that, you know you're gonna go, okay,

they've got something. If you put twenty eight points up on the team it was in the National Championship last year, then you might, you know, you might have a shot at something after winning one game, one game, and I don't winning looking bad, only winning one game. I mean sure they didn't look as bad as their Zonta looked. And it's you know, but they look you know, they didn't lose to an NAU, but they looked they they were in Arizona handle them really well three and a half.

I have to look at their schedule. I really liked that. I really like that. We'll see what happens. But I just bringing the IM up because of the compare and contrast them being one eleven and Arizona doing really well. I do like what Arizona's doing. It's without question. Uh they look they look better well again, you know, and you you with if you with some continuity, you'd like to think that they will be better by

having guys in positions that played those positions last year. So with that, let's go to my question to Jed about the team looking noticeably better the talent different talent difference. Okay, you what exactly was the question? It was over the last three years you've been here, blah blah blah, You've gone from this to this this and uh you and I'm asking the question right, so it's very noticeable. What do you think? And then you kind of

gave me a long answer to that question. Okay, Well, yeah, I mean I think what we tried to do, and we talked about this each year right from you know, we really called year one year zero. We were not able to really bring in any players from the outside. Most of the players that we had than a few random transfers there at the end, were players that were here and we had to try to develop them in a short period of time to play the type of football we wanted to play.

The next year, we really tried to do a great job of recruiting. That was t Max class and Feature Price Socks class and Speedies class and Jonah's class, and both Jonahs and that class really came in and made a difference. And then obviously then we had the transfers come in with Jaiden and company and then Cowing and etc. So the talent has continued to build. But I'll tell you what else has been the development of the players that either

we're here or that got here. The way they look, the way they really are work in the weight room, the way they are taking care of their bodies in the training room. I mean, I'll get a picture from the training room and there'll be thirty guys in there getting treatment, taking care of their body, getting ready for practice. And when you have that mentality, that's when you start really seeing a difference. So I think each year

we hope to have better talent every year we're here. That's the ultimate goal. So it was a long question, a lot of answer to my question. So I used the back half of that for the weight room and they're they're working hard to get better. I didn't need the front part of it. You know, we know who's here. But that's very apparent. I think the previous years, you know, and that interview that we had with the guy a washerman and when he brought up the one in one thousand,

I think that's always gonna stick with me because they had nothing there. Right. If that doesn't translate to nothing, I don't know what does wow that. Yet it showed how little effort and care was put into forty just getting players, not just one year, right, not just two years from a bunch of years, for a bunch of years, including the last including Ritron's

last couple of years. You can argue, I know he had Khalil Tate, but you know, it seemed like the recruiting, you know, kind of you know, fell off a little bit in his last couple of years, and so you know with the whole thing where he had coaches who weren't recruiting and stuff like that. So I think that it's, yeah, there's a huge difference. You can see the effort. I guess what you say.

He can see the fruits of the effort to go out and get guys and have guys and keep bringing in guys to challenge the guys ahead of them. You know, if Jayden Delora goes out and plays like Craft the first couple of games, there's a quarterback behind him who he'll be happy to take his job. And he looks good too, looks very good. You know, he talks about, well, let's let's run this click because he talked about he played basically three receivers last year, Dorian Singer of T mac and

Jacob Cowing. And somebody asks about, you know, now singers back. I mean Cowing is back. T Mack is back. I've gone and got Montana long last name from Colorado. But he talks about other guys and what might be happening at the receiver position. Yeah, I think we're getting better there. Kevin gray and just had a little bit of a nick on his shoulder, so we didn't play him very much. He's done a nice had a nice camp. Malachi needs to keep growing and learning, but as a

lot of ability, Carlos showed up today. He looks like he's got something there. You know, those guys have all gotten better. I think that there's a really you know, there's a lot of places for these guys to improve and make an impact. But I and AJ showed up today. AJ had probably his best day. So yeah, I mean, I think guys will play more, will substitute more. You know, our our goal is to develop, developed, developed, get them ready, and then when they're

ready, we play him. And we don't really worry about how many reps a guy has. We're going to play the three best and then when the fourth best is ready to go in, then the number three guys gonna be able to take a break. So it's on the one, two, and three to pressure four, five and six to keep getting better so they don't have to play every snap. I don't know if you saw the Twitter tears

that they hadn't it was it was football? Did where was it? Noween was the second tier and and t MAC was the fifth tier, But basically it was the top like twenty five receivers in the country, right right, So two guys very respectful for a unit that's uh that lost one of its

best players. USC was was he was, but but it says a law you wouldn't have seen this a few years ago, was then against if you go to I know that, I know, you know there's a lot of guys in all these groups, but all these awards that players are unwatched the true score, you know, and you didn't There's a whole bunch of them and you didn't see any of that. You saw none of that for for

for a lot of years. So that means not only are they getting better players, but you know, people are recognizing that they've got better players. You know, I talked about this when back way back when coming out of the Macavic years and Mike Stoops was, you know, struggled, got got a little bitter, got a little better, And I loved at the point that they were in the conversation. And by that I mean on day right on college football game day, they talk about Arizona when they talk about one

of their games coming up. Then they then they had a game, they hosted a game. They hear against Oregon being in the conversation because for whatever people think about oh, you know, AP polls and stuff like that, if they're not talking about you, when you get to the end of the

season. It's harder, you know, to get the attention to be in a bowl game or to have guys get All America honors, and being in the conversation has always been very important to me to have people talk about Arizona in a good way and not a bad way because they get did get talked about how bad they were for a long period of time, and it's so infrequent that that happens. You know, maybe he could run a little longer streak of that, right because it gets choppy choppy in the past, you

know, But but they are in the conversation. You know, there was a you know, the podcast that I listened to with with Dan Wetzel and Pat Forty. You know, they spent they spend a bunch of time, you're during the recruiting, you know, during all the recruiting stuff. I mean, they zeroed in and talked for about five minutes or so about Arizona and the guys that they were getting, and so it's it's it's just very cool to be in that position. Okay, we gotta take a break here,

get have your morales, get a cull in. We're gonna talk a lot about high school season and things like that as they start their season in a few days. Now, we're gonna talk about today's a scrimmage with you of a in Israel, right, I'm sure you saw watch the game on the other half. And then we'll also have Troy Hutchinson to talk about. He was at the scrimmage, so we'll get a to watch the game.

Yeah, well we'll get another view of you know what he's seen what he saw at the scrimmage on Saturday. So stick around for all that, but we'll be right back with have your morales. We'll start kicking off some of

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Zommits. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen. They Hey, welcome back to why on the Ball here Fox Sports Fortune Foim Steve, He's Jay. Tell me you have haf the guy who never sleeps well. I have to I sadly have to agree with you. Vampire. Yeah, So what's what's got you busy these days? Uh? I co football it's coming up pretty fast, too fast. Actually, it starts this Friday, for one, are eight teams in southern Arizona. And then the following Friday,

the twenty fifth, is when all those schools are playing. So it's coming up really fast. Let's go. Let's go to some of the small schools, because there's a few of them, you know, in and around the Tucson area. And I shouldn't even call him small anymore because like schools like Sabino and like that are in are in three A. So tell us

a little bit about about those guys getting started this weekend. Sabino plays at Coolidge and Sabino has Cameron Hackworth, who's a three year starter at quarterback. I get looked at by some colleges, you know. And you have the Barry Hill brothers, Savan and Samar Schamar has been offered a scholarship by the view of a he's a junior. He's got great size. He actually plays wide receiver and linebacker, which is uncommon jesually wide receiver, cornerbacker, safety,

but he's played linebackers. How strong guy how big is he if he's a line if he's playing linebackers, he's got good size. He's about six six one two hundred around there. Yeah, I mean he can get around. He's like the edge like he called it, the mic linebacker. I don't know all those terminologies, but he he covers a lot of ground.

So a lot of good talent. Even at the smaller school level. Huh oh yeah, yeah, even if it's three I mean three A is perceived to be like small school, you know, because it's not forty five or sixty. But the schools like Sabino and Push Ridge are annually very tough teams, and they play against fourty teams and they beat them. I mean, they were very competitive Sawaro. I think Sabino's beat Sawaro the last couple of years. That's a big rivalry up there. I know Jay knows all about

that. Point that out. Unfortunately, I had just gotten out of high school when Sabino all of a sudden got good and they started beating the crap out of Sawaro. So right, you know, because that didn't happen while I was a well, I that's all I know. That's all I know. But that was that was also nineteen seventy seven. I don't ask you how many tackles? Yeah, exactly exactly did you play football? Jay?

I didn't. I played freshman in JV and then that was that was all I had, and I got tired of I got tired of getting killed. I'm just saying you couldn't find a helmet big enough. Well, the helmet was big, but the pants were long. Okay, so you gonna be busy. Which games are you gonna highlight this week? And if not all of them, well, there's there's not a lot in Tucson. Actually, the Semino Coolidge game is at Coolidge push Ridge doesn't start until twenty fifth or

a three eight team, but they don't start to twenty fifth. A lot of two eight teams are playing on the road. So even though it starts this week, there's not a lot going on in Tucson. Uh So the next week is when it really gets hot and heavy with like you guys to point out before like sell Miranna plays cell point huge game. I mean that

that's a huge game for for you know, power points and all. That's that's what they still call him, you know down the road because look, you've got two really really good teams and somebody's got to win the game, right. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because Cell Point, you know, they have that defensive line with rushing and Will high and on the ends,

and they have Cordova and then nose tackles. So that's that's gonna be one of the best defensive line ever in two sons high school history just because of their they're projected. All of them are projective play at a Power fives or Division one school at least. You know, Arizona's got Will hide and rushing already on board as commitments, and Cordova has been recruited by you know, he's been in the past, has been recruited by the UA and Order Dame

and some other schools, so he's still on the board. But uh, it's gonna be interesting to see those guys going against Miranda's fast paced, uh quick read offense. I think Miranda's gonna use set to their advantage because they don't want to have the quarterback sit back there and just let those guys key on them. So they're going to test cell Points linebackers in secondary. I'm gonna take rushing in Wahai, Will have enough time to get to the quarterback.

But well, that's that's part of the fun thing of watching it unfold. And that's at sell Point next Friday, the only time sell Points playing another Tucson team in town or Southern aers on the team all year, that is all Phoenix teams. Oh Man, mostly yeah, well yeah wow. So so you've been doing this a while now, you grew up here, You've seen a lot of games. You've seen a lot of people come through. Have you talked about this being the best one of the best ever,

if not the best ever? Defensively on the line? Has has Tucson? Uh well, how far has Tusan come with that? In terms of athletic abilities? Things like that school's going to three kids going to bigger school and stuff like that. Uh well, I mean school has developed like a niche and along the way sometimes you know, like stell Point's built up a reputation,

have been running back strong. Uh with Bijon and some of the other ones that have come through in recent years, like Bettis and Goodman last year. Just just the string of really good quarterbacks. Will Height not related to uh, do the Will Height that's going to Arizona but Anthony will Height was a really easy plus a thousand yard rusher. The South Point has an identity

in a running back school. Miranda's starting to be like a quarterback school because they're turning out quarterbacks that are that throw for over twenty five hundred yards. Sabino went from aj Skaggs, who through for at close to three thousand yards on. They have Cameron Hackworth who that he's gonna throw full four thousand this year, which is unheard of. That's going to be a record. He's

gonna shoot for that with forty touchdowns. So, I mean, there's certain schools that have developed, uh you know that you know that identity, uh you know, and it's it's been uh, you know two Sound High in the past. They've had the lineman like Mike Dawson and Bill Dawson and some of the other guys that played there. It's it's every every generation seems like there's there's a top of the line players playing at different schools in certain positions.

Who besides those two, who are some who are some of the schools around here, you know at the upper levels that might be competing you don't have a shot at maybe making some run in in the at state. Well, cdo. And we all know that what happened at CDEO last year with the unfortunate off the field, uh situation that reduced that resulted in I think it was seven or eight players, most of them seniors, were basically checked

off the team for that year. You know, some of them are back or at least one of them is back this year reinstated, and it's that team has more than twenty seniors on his team and there and most of them are good, like Skylie Woodard, another guy that you have a has been looking at. He's alignman. Uh. You know, Tristan McClellan is a great quarterback. He had a good year. He got thrown into the mix

last year. They're they're gonna be a team that should win the for a championship or be right there because they got a lot of people back and they went to the semi finals, became an overtime away from making the championship game last year. So they're they're one of the favorites to go all the way this year. Well, that's that's very good and very interesting. Well, they're losing all those guys, you're still get in as far as they did.

How how did they do that? Because you can't lose guys like they lost? Right, Yeah, you guys have talked to dust In peace before, right. I mean, he's he's like a he's the ultimate players coach. Those guys think of him as the father figure. And I think he used that as a situation where like, Okay, they're gonna do this to us, Well, we're gonna we're gonna bond together. We're gonna show them

what we can do despite this, you know, terrible situation. I mean he was in tears when I interviewed him about it, about the players, because he was thinking more about them and their futures than anything else. And I think the players just rallied around him the way he made them bond together. Yeah, no, No, I agree that he's just a good guy, A good guy who avided his time as an assistant coach and now he's

here. He's been a head coach for a while now, right, he's I think it is the fifteenth year he was under new Gent right forever. Yeah, he actually played at following Walls, I think when Nugent was there, maybe at an assistant coach, and then then he coached under him at cdo Yeah, anything else besides football going on. We gotta keep prior out. Yeah, well there's all the fall sports. There's volleyball, golf,

you know, swimming, cross country. A lot of kids come out to those, Andy and I and I think Down four was their Saturday at the USD Media Day that which is a great event. That's got some of the the players out there, the athletes of all the schools and different sports. I mean, something that's never really happened before, and it would be nice if they continue that. All the districts or schools put something like that together.

That was something Dedy Wheeler must have engineered. Yeah, it generated with to USD and then it's the two Sun High. Ad said that she would take it on to put it on Stephanie Miller at the at their jam. You know, I think I think next time probably they'll they'll get more notification out and get some more media out there, because those those kids eat it up to see the camera in front of them not they're not used to that.

And a lot of them I asked, have you ever been interviewed for and they said no, Maybe like of those athletes and the parent the parents loved that stuff too. They love seeing their kids getting that stuff. And you know, like when we get a coach on the radio, that's one of the things that generates, you know, a lot of interest. And we know, we know, you know they're on the they're on the radio and they were listening the school is everybody's listening. But you know, it's

it's that's a lot of fun. And they always well, you guys, you guys do that all. I mean, I heard that the Sam Mills interview at the Morana Softball I mean, that's you probably had the whole Miranda community they're listening to him speaking. It's it's that's huge. I mean, that doesn't happen. By the way, thanks thanks for that, because he was really good. He was great. I heard the interview. He's yeah, he was very informative and emotional and I think we both had tears in

our eyes at the point. Well, you guys have had have had kids play sports, you sports that some of the stuff he was talking about it very important. So I don't know if you want to make a prediction or not, because I can't remember if all sports twos on dot com does this a player of the year. Who would be your leaders in the clubhouse right now for football football? Yeah, Ilie, you're rushing defensive end at sell Point. Uh, let's see. There's there's a different players that are going

to step up. The Kylie Woodard had CDO I think is gonna be huge. He's got any of you looking at him more and more, and Arizona has been out and on him going down the line. You got some of the CD a lot of the CDO. Caden Luke is going to be a big time player. He's a fullback. Uh, he's like a Michael Stott type player. He'll he'll get some looks. You know, there's a lot there's there's above a Mustay in the quarterback at push Ridge. You passed for

over to twenty six hundred yards. His brother, Tyler Mustang was a walk on at the of A. He's gonna I would guess that he's gonna earn a scholarship by by next year or the way his physical abilities. Cameron Hackworth, he says he's gonna throw for four thousand yards and have forty touchdown passes. I don't I don't doubt him with the amount of talent he has around with the Berry Hills and a lot of the receivers he has there, what are his uh what are his uh specs? You know, you know,

hight weight. That's that's where the question marks come in with him because he's like five nine, one hundred and eighty around there. He doesn't have a lot of heights. But I mean, you look at Kyler Murray. He's not the tallist guy. Of course he's he's had his moments at with the Cardinals over your questioned, but but he won a Heisman, So I you know, I think a size in this today's age of offenses is not as big for the quarterback because a lot of them run have mobile quarterbacks who quick

reads and run out of the pocket to mix defenses us. So I think he could have a future. I know he's played defensive back also to give himself himself more of an opportunity to get noticed. But he definitely has a strong arm. He's got a great football I que, and he's got tremendous accuracy, so he's got he's got the tools. Yeah, I was gonna say, you want to make a prediction and say who has the best chance

to win a state title? I think cdo studio and then the self point, as I would their defense might be one of the best and not the best in the state. At the six are not defense. You have a chance to win a championship obviously, So they're not open division this year. They're six A. There's six A. If they get if they're ranked one of the top eight by the end of the the regular season, they'll be in the Open Division playoffs. Oh gosh, that could very well happen.

Yeah, that could happen. Yeah, so they might have to go up against some of the top tier teams in Phoenix, but I think, you know, with that defense, they can probably manage that. Yeah, how was we haven't had on the show in a while? Uh, Scarring, How's how are they doing downe there? He's still trying to develop. I mean I think that was the first year last year and then they I think they only had one winning season in their whole existence. So that's that's the

struggle down there. You have to compete with no gallas and it does not too far away. Walden Grove, that's a that's a tough area because those are all good, especially Walden Groves. That's a good area where the students and generally don't go to Rio Rico, so he's still trying. He got almost a new staff this year because a lot of the other guys went on to different schools, so he's still he's still in the building process there. Okay, okay, well thanks a munch. What's high? They got a

new coach too, right, Zach Nevleff. He's a self point running back coach. And I've mentioned the running backs at self point in recent years, so he's behind a lot of that. So he's he's very young guy. He relates with the players very well, and they got Adam paul as A as a assistant coach. Cam Gaddis, who's the young guy he relates with players, so he's uh, he's got some some youthful exuberance going on there.

Let's see. It's gonna be tough for him to win right away because the way the program was last year with an interim coach and things very much in transition. But I think a couple of years from now, two three years or training things around. Well, have your thanks for your youthful exuberance today? Is that what you call it? That's what you call it. I'm using it on you. Now taking out are you you're probably working? Yeah, taking out? No, I'm go ahead to do the CDIO amount

of the scrimmage right now. Sleep took it up and a half time. Thanks a much, Thanks a much. Never sleeps, he doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't. But you know what, he's the guy, right you go, you want some information on high school, you go to him and Andy and you get they know everything. They know all the players, they know the coaches, they know what's going on. So that's why that's why we get him on here, so so that we don't have to go do all that. Right, I'm looking forward to I really do want to go

to that Mirana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what is that fifth R five? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I really want to go check that out and see what these do you guys from south would look like. And you know how good is Mirana? Right, We've had their their coach on a few times, so I love to see how that works. Okay, so let's take a break. Okay, let's take our break. We'll be back and uh we'll maybe do some more jet fish stuff from practice. Yeah, talk about the best gamestball game. Okay, we'll right back.

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Heart Yeah, I think I think the next one, which will be at at night Saturday, be the last last chance to get a good look at him. Probably a little further along right practice wise, and we might see more. Looking forward to going too now Yeah, no, okay, if you want to give us call, please do two O four one six seventy four forty. Thanks Saber for coming on board. We all we talk about Jeff Jets one more time. Basket basketball basketball basketball. I saw,

I saw probably three quarters of it. Yeah, I kind of stopped paying attention to it when it got out of hand. Yeah, it was. I thought I thought Israel Israel would be a better team. They weren't well, and you know, and I wasn't looking at the score so much. I mean, of course, if i'd have been looking at the score if a zone was losing, right, But they took him in pretty early on. What I was watching for was what does it look like right, and

what the different guys looked. Sure, it looked the same. Let me say this, except for one Ballow is big, like a big big. I noticed that when he went to the press conference like two weeks ago. Yeah, I'm thinking what happened to follow He like ballooned yea, and not in a good way. Yeah. I would assume that that wait is easy to come. If he needs to come off if he does, let me know because I need that way to come up with me. But he's big. Did you notice. I guess I didn't pay attention so much, so

I big. But maybe he needs to be big. I don't know, but he was big. Same ballow though, you know, kind of but he eversone was gonna be very good on the inside. Wow. Okay. That and that's one of the first things that I that was I kind of noted was the rim protector that they have. There's a whole bunch of them, right, if you produce their names right, you could not you know,

guys could not go in the in the lane on Arizona. And no matter who in there, they're gonna be And we didn't see Henry Henry today because he was out. He was out with flu or sickness. Uh, they're gonna be This team has a lot of I said, this not a death blah blah blah, whether he uses it or not, but they're gonna be very good. Yeah. Well, and then another one was was you know Borrow Eaton and the guy that we talked about, you know all summer long with it, you know, when he was you know, playing in

the international competition he just looked and it's not being Philip Philip. Yeah, I think I told you that. Yeah, it's not that he was scoring, it's his presence on the court. Yes, right, he's confident, he looks like he knows where he needs to be. He's you know, how did you notice this? I'm just I was just watching him play so so I I think I said this before before all this, uh, last year, we had a chance to see him in the summer and he stuck

out. He stood out to me, and I'm thinking, who's this kid. I didn't know these kids, Philip, and I'm looking at him. Oh, he's gonna be very good. And then he didn't play, right, I'm thinking if he's storing him, like stored him purposely because he didn't need to play him. I said, this dude's gonna be good. Like he's got a presence. Is at the word to use? Yeah, he's got a presence. Yeah, and it's it's it's just a weird good vibe.

Well, and here's the thing again, it's not about the competition that he was going up again, just watching him on the floor and the thing that the thing that the description I have for him is he's a better version of Pelly Larson right, smoother, smoother, more more confident with the ball,

more confident defensively. And again we don't know. I mean this was you know, who knows what the competition level was, But just the way he was moving around the court, he looked a whole have a lot more uh, in control of himself like he knew or he was supposed to be. Wasn't afraid to take the ball, wasn't afraid to take a shot. And if that's the guy that he's gonna be, he's gonna help him.

Yeah, no question. In fact, I saw him, like I said, more than a year ago we had the contemp and we were invited to go watching him and say who's this guy? And then I watched him a lot and he didn't get to play very much. Uh. And then you saw him in the open in the camp this year where everyone was doing and the internet, and then I saw him today and then I'm thinking he wears

number one, and I you know, didn't put the bullet. It takes a lot of guts to where and there's a reason for that, because you think you're number one, right, Does that make sense? I think he's going to be a great surprise for this team. Yeah. I again, at the very least, you feel like there's a guy there that, you know, whether or not he's a starter, is a guy that's going to contribute. Yeah. Right, He's a guy that looks he looks like he's done the work. Yeah, and he looks the part in a weird way

to contribute. He's like, he's what a six seven? Yeah, he wing guy. You know, he's not Sean Elliott with the first step, but he's you know, he just looks very as I said, confident and aware of what he's out there to do. Yeah, you know what, that's a good guy. I wouldn't even know who to compare him to. I probably need to see him a little bit more. He's not Judd, he's not Sean. Maybe he's not Michael Dickerson. Check a Slovakian guy shooter, no, kind of a little quick kind I thought, yeah, yeah,

okay, I just need to see more of them. Yeah, we do. And again, okay, I'll give you that I was making I was making fun of some people. I was watching the game. My wife was, you know, was in the house that Jesus works at home I said, I'm having a great time on social media watching people make predictions about the season off the first quarter of the game. How did you know?

I was just watching people, just not so on Twitter, watching people on I wasn't watching the life, but just watching people on social media already making predictions about And then what got into it was we were having some fun with some guys, you know, some of the guys that I that I chat with, and I guess we're going undefeated those cruise there's always those us. And we were laughing. I mean, it was a joke. We were

we were laughing about that. But you know, they again. But what it looked like is it looked like what Tommy has been doing since he got here, running up and down the floor, playing some defense, trying to block some shots. Yeah, trying to steal the ball. Uh does? And it looked it looked familiar. Yeah, it looked familiar, great very good players. And again that to me, that's not what I'm looking at. What I'm looking at is what did that look like? Sure, sure

Boss will look bigger too. He doesn't look like a point guard, does he does. He looks like a running back a bit. Yeah, But they're gonna be solid in a lot of good places. Of course, again, everybody else is getting better too, got good players. Let's see how Tommy handles them. But again, we've said this a thousand times. I've said it since I started covering him in ninety one. You can go thirty four and old and March hits. If you're March comes and you don't go

to your seat or whatever. Yeah, you had a bad season, but you know, I was looking at you know, I was looking at the stats, and he played a lot of he played sixteen guys. Yeah, he said what he said he was gonna do. Uh. Keisha Johnson scored twenty four points. The thing the thing about that is eleven or fourteen shooting. He was making bass, he was ducking, and he looks very good. This team is gonna be athletic. It's probably gonna be maybe more physical

because of a couple of guys that transferred in. It's gonna be a lot to like, a lot to like. It's funny though I didn't wasn't paying attention to your feed, but I saw some people on Facebook. I'm glad, I'm thank thankful to God that Tomry Lloyd is our coach, and I think four or five months ago people wanted him to get the hell out of town because he lost to Prince and then they couldn't get recruits. Yeah,

oh yeah, then they couldn't recruit. Yeah, yeah, no, you know, I know, well, like you said, relax, relaxed to your guys and even relaxed about what you saw today. You know, just again it's it's more of you know, just just what do they look like on the court. What are they doing on the court, doing the same thing they've done, but you've got you're seeing guys do that right, new guys right into the system of of you know, running up and out.

You know, they were a little sloppy with the ball a few times, got some turnovers and some bad passes stuff, but they were always hustling. They were hustling up and down the court. And when you have a lot of people you can play, that'll happen. I think Bobby Robbins got more of the TV, get a lot of TV time, all the fun games and the firing there. But uh, you know, they were fun to

watch again as as they have been all along. Sure, and I think that uh, you know, I if this is a sign of what it's gonna look like going for Yeah, you know, then then you know, play the games and see how that works. You know, once you get there, once you get into the games, it certainly looked familiar, and there were new guys doing stuff that the old guys sure have been. You know, we're doing so that part of it, that part of it.

What did they say, but it was someone basketball doesn't stop, It's continue to look this way I'm home. Was the last time, honestly, this is honest question. When was the last time you say everyone was going to be very good? Honestly? Never? Yeah, never, never. You always say that, yeah, because they're always gonna be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, they may. I'll be to some people's like they're gonna be the one the top, in the top two or three in the conference.

They're gonna probably be ranked most of the year, top four seed. You know, they might get into the top ten. You know, they spent some time, you know, in the top five, you know in the last few years. You know, that's just that's what you expect anymore. And now you know, Tommy Lloyd certainly hasn't done anything to change that. As they head into a season. So h it's uh again. It was fun to watch. I just wanted to see what they look like. They

got guys. We'll see you know when when games get going. But uh, you can tell that Tommy's just trying to get guys some work and let everybody you know, do some stuff and see, uh, get some films. They say, you know, get some film on these guys. And that's that's what he's doing. Played sixteen guys. I know, they took sixteen guys play. Oh then two more didn't they have and there's two more. There's two more that didn't play. Yeah, so like they gets uh

you know, and this was more of a bonding trip. It was more of a let's get to know each other. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride because it's gonna get to be work again soon. Uh. Some fans. Bruce has already posted his first you know, his game story. So if you go to the airs on a daily start I Wonder dot com, you can you can see it, just you know, different quotes, you know, yeada. Yeah, it's funny because and he and time, he was very serious about this. Don't read too much into what we were doing

and starting line up stuff like that. That's starting line up flashed up at the beginning of the game. I'm like, whoa, what wasn't I didn't know what it was. Oh it was it was a bar of each and end. Well. Uh god, I've seen it. Uh Boswell, Dylan Anderson started, Boswell did not start, Bradley started, Uh Jade Bradley was the starting guard. Uh. Palli Larson started, Dylan Anderson started, more Eachan and started what Ballo didn't start. I can't I can't think who the

who the fourth? The fourth start? And it'll change next and it'll change. So he'll he'll do, you know, he'll do a bit different guys throughout the I just temper temper everything because it is what it is. It's it's an exhibition traveling exactly. But but they did look good. They look talented, well, they look talented, and they looked like they know what they're doing, you know, Yeah, I mean it did look a little again, it's a little rough around the edges a few times, but it

looked like what Tommy Tommy's teams have done the last few years. And you know, it's like the system is in right, but now you just come in and find a way to fit into that. Just let's take our break. We'll be right back, and uh, we'll have breaking news.