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Friday pod, Hour 1
− Some thoughts on Arizona vs. Oregon St.
− Showtime Cards owner George Mares discusses the industry.
− Rooting for the Dbacks.

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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. It's sure your most Prized Possessions, kt z R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jagan Zewas got our boys, Sid and Kevin in the back. If this show goes to help, we'll blame it on the kids. Were it just might. It's just might. How you doing you

guys? Good over there? Yeah, yeah right, yeah, yeah, all right, that sounds like it's working. We're doing this from Showtime Cards. The kids are back at the studio. Don't mess it up, Dune, don't burn down the house. Kids. There's a curfew and no no and nope, no cagers, no cagers. Hey, So we're okay, we are. We're here at Showtime Cards fifty eight oh one. Eat Speedway owner George Modess here. If you want to stop by, give us a give us a shout. We'll let you maybe even make your pick for the

Arizona Oregon State game on the air. Bricus a burrito or two, yeah, burrito, maybe a cocktail or anything like that. But we're sitting here Showtime Cards, fifty eighth one East Broadway. It's Friday afternoon, it's geek day, it's sports sports cards. It is man a bunch of things here, I mean cool stuff too. Yeah, this is a cool place, if you know. It's it's almost like going to a like a hall of fame or a museum. There's all kinds of memorabilia and stuff. There's a

really cool, really cool deal. I've never been a guy who does a lot of this. I've got some cards, and I've got some collectibles and stuff, but I've not been a you know, somebody who's participating stuff like this. But a lot of stuff comes on here. So I did a long time ago, and I'm thinking, what the hell was I thinking getting rid of my stuff, because now I'm realizing it's it's pretty lucrative there. We probably threw away a lot of money, and you know what, our

mom's probably threw away a lot of hay and without giving a crap. My mom hated my my baseball cards, she hated my god well, and she had every right. They were always all over the house. They were on this more. Did you ever use some for the bike? I put them on my bike, you know, did all kinds of stuff with them. Those are the goods with cards and yeah, man crazy, but I come by, come by, guys. I know we're gonna have some people come by and say hello. We'll put you on the radio. Uh kind of

Uh, we'll talk about sports obviously. A big game tomorrow, huge game tomorrow. You know. I think this is a really, really really big game for this last week was kind of a and I think after you mentioned Anthony had written this column that that was not a one off, right that if it's not a one off, this better be a two or two off. You gotta move. You gotta move the ball forward, right or a one to two or whatever. You got to push the ball forward. Football

for this is that. Yeah, yeah, they got to They got to matriculate the ball down the field, right. You know, this is a game that you know, of course, Oregon State's coming in there. I think they ranked eleventh, They're six and one. They're playing well in spite of the fact that I've been giving them crap about how they played earlier in the year. But this is a game that Arizona to show itself. Right. They did it last they did it against Washington State. That was a

step. Oregon State's considered a better team. But you got to make your own place well. And you know this better than me because you've lived it for a thousand years. You can't have good day, can't have bad day, you can't have good day because that's what that's what they're going to go for. That's what Arizona does. That's what Arizona has always done in my lifetime. You know, you win a great game. I'll go back to nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy five, Bruce Hill, Jim Young, t

Bell, all those guys. They have this tremendous win over Texas Tech. They come back, they're down twenty eight to three, come back and win the game. And that's when Texas Tech back then to Arizona was USC Trizona now or what. So they beat Texas Tech to go five and zero. New Mexico comes into town and beats them. Yeah at their play here Tucson. Yeah, makes no sense, but it makes total sense because that's how college football, that's what Arizona's always done. Yeah. Yeah, and they

gotta start the boys. It's funny because we've seen coaches here at least I'm gone through five, and no coach was immune from it, right, no matter what, No Dick did it, Mike Stoops did it, Devin Well, Kevin Summlan didn't because you never won that. They never won him to part day. But you know, uh, you know, rich Rod did it. You know, they beat it. They beat Oregon, came home and got beat by USC in that twenty fourteen season, or would lose to

Washington State right after or before or whatever and got ready. Uh No, this is a big game. I think the good thing is, uh, you know, it's not a trap game, because every game is a trap game if you can use it that way, because every game is a big game. We can't just overlook a team. Well, the rest of these games are you know, in every one of them. You know, right now, the next two teams that are up on their schedule, our ranked teams U c l A. All of a sudden, you know, looked

really good last week. Yeah, they scored points that they made that they couldn't and then they did right. So no, we're looking forward to that. We'll talk more about that. In a bit. We're not gonna have we have a guest in the second hour, right, Jake Jakes is gonna call in. Jake Fisher's gonna call in about four to seventeen give us his thoughts on the weekend. I'm sure they'll be positive. Yeah, he's yeah,

he's yeah. But you know again, and you know the for those of us who've been around a long time, this is not our your your your father's Oregon State. No, these guys are really good. They're still in the hunt to get into the PAC twelve championship game. They've got one loss. They they lost to Washington, which was I'm Washington State, excuse me. But you know they've got Oregon ahead of them. I think I've got Washington ahead of them. They've got a chance to still get in this

thing and make a mess of the whole thing for the PAC twelve. So you know this. You did this back in the late eighties. I did this for a long time in the nineties and two thousand, went up to

Corbalis a number of times twenty three years. And I'm gonna I don't know if I'm going out on a limb on saying this, but I think I still think that Oregon State, given what I saw for all that time twenty three, people that Oregon State is at the bottom or was at the bottom of desirable places to play in the PAC twelve, in the Pac ten at that time, back twelve. Now it's in Convalis. You have to get

off the road to get to the road to get to Corball. Honestly, people, people think that Tucson is a plus tough place to get to. No, no, no, Corvallis is tough, second to Pullman, Pullman. Is that place to look at what they're doing, Yes, that tells you how good of a job he's doing. Jonathan. That place ain't easy, Jonathan Smith. Excuse me, Yes, no, it's not easy. It's again, it's it's not. It's not it's not on the way to

anything. No, no, exactly patch. So no, it's a it's a you know, when you think of this job that Jonathan Smith is, I mean to get a guy like dj Ungerle who is playing, you know, at Clemson where they win national championship, and say, you know what, I'm gonna go to Corvallas of all places. You know that, and certainly that had Jonathan Smith being the quarterback. You know, the coach that he is, he was a quarterback in college. Certainly that had a lot

to do with with DJ going over there. But you get a guy like that who can bring people like that convince them, which is what Jed Fish is trying to do here in Tucson. Right. You know, he's gotten he's gotten these recruits to come here and and stay here so far, no question. What was the what was the rich Rudds saying, if you get him here, they'll stay, stay. They just got to get him. You just got to get him here and that I don't know if you could

say that to the Corvelis. But still, he's done a fantastic job. We talked about this with the UTEB coach. Tell me the demo, right, demo? Yeah, And I said, Uteb, Las Cruze, New Mexico tough places. You go, get a job there, you better make the most of it. You can get the heck out of and win. He's done a great job there. And he's a former Beaver, right, he played he played quarterback. He knows the environment. I think that's part of the success. You have a guy who wants to be there exactly.

And and that's and when you when you have a coach who says I'm here because I want to be here, I'm not here on my way to somewhere else, that that works for some of these guys, because that's one of the things that guy that guys want to know that if they if they commit to a place like like Oregon State, that that they're uh, you know, their coach is going to be there trying to uh you know, make their way. So No, absolutely, I think it's uh, it's one

of those things where he's he's gotten the momentum going. And then I hate that word, but he's gotten the momentum going. You know, he's got he's gotten the ball rolling on guys coming. He's coming there and and you know sticking around. This is the fifth year of his program. No, no, I won't. I'll try to find a different word for you, but but I'll use that. I'll let you use that word right now. You know, you know, did you see the entrance And I'll say this

to about you talk to a nice place winningham. He's an entrance on the motorcycle. He's a bad ass. He's a badass. Wouldn't you want to you know, you once you want to play for dude, And no surprises that they're doing what they do because he's that dude. He's that dude. You know, Dion's got his dion. Jed is really smart. And I'm not saying Kyle Woodham isn't smart, but he's for being in football. The persona he he has as a tough guy. Yeah, and he's that dude.

And he comes in his motorcycle. Come on, if he's a good coach and I've learned this coaching matters, you're gonna play to for that, you're gonna play. No surprise that he's doing what he's doing. Oh no, no, no, it's not. And you know and not and not only that Steve that he has stayed there all this time, right, another dude that not a guy who jumping you know, I mean, you know what's his name? Uh? The he went he went to a house state in all that place. He went from there. He was the coach there

sports. Yeah, Urban Meyer, thank you got Urban My high tailed out of their first chance. He got coaching matters. Coaching matters. And and here we are, and I think that Jed's done a fantastic job in his job as being the CEO slash coach. Yah. Uh so we'll see this is a huge game. Well, Jed's got a sort of a different, you know, persona as far as what his leadership looks like. But then he's got Johnny Nansen badass, right, Brandon Carroll badass, Briggy Oni bad

ass, Chuck, He's a really bad badass. You know. He's got guys like that where it's like, Okay, if I'm looking for toughness in my coaches, that's where it is. And then I got this really smart guy up there who's pushing buttons, recruiting, running, you know, establishing you know, an offense and all those things and all that comes together. And that's how Arizona is trying to turn things around right now. Sure, no, and they're doing a good job. We'll see what happens this weekend.

You're gonna be their tailgating right now. Yes, yep. I'll be there watching in the press box. And it's gonna be it's seven o'clock. It's a seven thirty game. Yeah, yeah, not not great for those of us who yeah, well it's you know what I mean. I don't mind the seven thirty games. Seven o'clock is even better. I don't really don't like I'll go to any of any games. But the one thing about about any of that is we would just like to have a day game.

A day game in November is the coolest thing at Arizona Stadium. So so you know, I wish I worked for all tour. Uh. And they're hoping that don't make it at noon on that day, and that's right right, you got out tour during the next game. Yeah, so they're hoping that's beyond four o'clock and maybe seven o'clock. Yeah, unfortunately, but we'll see what happens that day. First this one, Uh, the smart money

is on Noah. Yeah, even I think one of the one of the website says that, you know, no if if he'd expected to start, that's just that's what we're expecting. Yeah, you'd be surprised if if if Jayden starts for more than the reasons of is he healthy or not? Just Noh's been the guy who's he's been out there, throw him back out there,

see how he does. And you've got a guy that if Noah gets off to a bad start or isn't playing well or gets hurt, or whatever you've got the other guy they're ready to come in sure, or gets deemed up or yeah whatever, no question, we'll see what happens. I think it's gonna be fun. The line at least a new thing is three and a half still it was. I don't know if it's changed to three today, but it was three and a half yesterday morning. So that's what that's

what we're playing it at. And it took fab five Friday packs. I'll call it up right now and see what it is today. But it it It was four, then went down to three and a half and now let's see what it is. So I'm not playing it, so just you know, you know I'm not playing, but I wouldn't know where to go with it. But if I were to, I think I would take the point if somebody said I had to play, it's three now, if somebody said I had to play it, you know, or if you don't play,

we kill one of your kids. I play. I take Arizona. Yeah I would too. I would too because it's such an iffy game. Yeah, at least you go with the home team. I think I think that I think Arizona, not because I think it's such a hard place to play for Oregon State to come to. But I think the Arizona likes being at home and and they want to well, here are your factors. They've done really well this year and covering right, no matter what the situation was.

They're an underdog at home, which is a factor, right, which is a huge factor. It's a huge factor. Guys. Take guys, take that personal. And then they're playing well, right. I mean, those are three good things to go. I mean I know that I know two of the two of the last three games were losses, but all three games

they played really well. You know, they played two top ten teams in those in those two and not just right then they've bet a ranked team on the road, right, So so no, I think that it's a it's a it's a big chance. It's a big chance. Okay, I you know, hey, guys, you guys are on campus. You guys are on campus. What's the vibe on campus for this weekend's game. I'd say

there's definitely a lot of believers. It's drastically changed. I think that a lot of people do believe that this is one of the games that we can compete in and I think that Arizona cannot come out flat in this game. If they want more buy in, I say, I say, they come out and have a good half. Maybe down three going and a half. That's that's a solid start. But yeah, there's definitely a lot more buying now these days, you know. I agree. We were actually talking about

it before the show started. We were talking about how I feel like a lot of fans feel like this team has something to it and it is really worth supporting and getting behind, and that's increasing by the week. It's well, they have to because they hit forty two. Yeah, well they're gonna you know, they're gonna need them to show up, show up early, and stick around as always. I mean, that's the thing that it always is, but certainly a thing where you know, even I mean if it's

not full, you still make some noise and be there. Right, that's what we got to get. All right, let's go ahead and hit our first break. We're gonna come back talk some more about the games and things going on this weekend where it's showtime cards. We can take calls, right, we can take calls. Fifty eight oh one East Speedway will take your

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Breaking down all the excess at Alls. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salviaz. This is I on the Park on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. H like this one. I kind of do want. Thank you, Hey, welcome back. I think too. I thebaut here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagansaus. Look who we have here, mister George Modis. Hello, Hello, we love your place. Thank you, thank you, welcome. I'm glad you guys came by. Checked it out like

a big playground. Man. Absolutely, it's a sports paradise. Uh, definitely a playground for a sports card collector or a fan. You probably your customers nessing one hundred you have more than one hundred percent. How many of them are regulars? Eighty percent? I mean that we see them weekly on a weekly you know these people. Oh yeah, yep, and we have a large customer list. We've been here this year, we're celebrating twenty five

years. So been here a long time, and we've done it all, and we've done you know, I've I've helped create some of these cards, work with the manufacturers, and been in the industry a long time. So those twenty percent, I see guys bringing cards, Hey, how much is this one work? Absolutely? Oh yeah, that's every single day. That's what my brothers did. It just that, you know, and sometimes it's good news, and sometimes it's not, you know, like they have this

perception like I've had this forty years. Should it be worth two three thousand dollars or see, it's not, you know. And then sometimes like these old guards, I don't know they were you know, only end up attic or whatever. And there's some rare like a Babe Ruth card, Right, So okay, so you you do what you call events here, right, but then they're they're broadcast out. Just tell me what you know, walk me through one of those, because I'd be interested to see what you know,

what that is you're going to open a box or something. So exactly, so now we can do these streams. They we do a live stream and people can participate like they can be in New York, Florida. There's a guy that breaks with us in England and they buy a spot and basically what essentially they're doing is they're splitting a case with everyone. And the way they divvy it up is by teams. Okay, So and we randomize the team. So let's say I have the Yankees, and I actually had the

Yankees last night, and I pulled this awesome card. It's a Derek Jeter signed to autograph number to ten. Okay, And and that's basically it's divided by teams, and and people watch this broadcasting. We stream it and and there's a chat and it creates a community and people that love to collect cards and that are sports fans. So you opened the box and what you just show each card or what do you do? Box by box? Packed by pack? Card by card, every single one is shown live, streamed and

recorded. You could go back and watch it two years later. So go ahead, No, you go ahead. So we know cards have been like this popular for a long time, like long time before we were kids. Both. When did it kind of become unless I lost track, which I probably did, When did it happen to become like this crazy, like just last ten years or has it always been like last five years? I would

say last five years. Twenty seventeen, we kind of started seeing it and everybody said, hey, COVID helped cards and take off, but no, it was coming. It was a perf. Covid was the perfect storm for it. Like it really blew us up because we were at home they pulled out their old collections. But it started prior to that, about twenty twenty

seventeen, because it's it has it's like any any other market. It has ups and downs it and it's been down for a long time decades, you know, after the the junk era, which was late eighties early nineties, they overproduced cards, so people just like this, this sucks and nobody wanted to collect. And then twenty sixteen seventeen, Aaron Judge rookies. They Otani

came into the league and they kind of just built it up. And you know, obviously you had some great athletes like like Kobe and Michael Jordan and and we still do. So what you're gambling on then? And I guess it's almost like gambling, right, you're gambling that you're gonna open this box.

And let's say you've got the Angels. You know you're going for that on You're going for that of time, so you get the and do you get to pick which team you get or do you you can do pick your team or we we value each team, you know, based by like right now, the Arizona Dinebacks. Obviously we're in the World Series and we have

a great rookie, Corbyn Carroll. His autograph is worth a lot. So so let me ask you, because these two teams are in the league, in the championships, right in the World Series, do their cards value more now? Yep? It's based on player performance. What's going on? And that's how he goes up and down based on player performance, just kind of like the stocks. Like let's say you buy Amazon. Amazon as a company's doing well, it goes up. This player at Corbyn. Carrol's hot,

he's doing well. He's on National TV, you know, the World series. His cards through the Yes, same as the tank. They commit something off the field, you know, they beat up their wife or something. Yep, his cards are work. Is that what it? U? This is jackuar. He loves to ye both of us. Man. He pokes, Yep, he pokes. But okay, so so let's say you were doing a well you did this event last night, so I'm how did that go? And you said you didn't get somebody for every team. So I

took the last few spots in order to break this. And I was actually doing this from my home. You know, we break here at the shop. We have a studio. We're building studios over there. But I can also do it from from my home, you know, and have a drink and enjoy it and have fun. That's just like everyone, what do you mean, like take few you pay for and you pay for exactly yep. So I can invest into the into the break So okay, actually Aaron bought

it for me. Yeah yeah, okay, tell us about this thing last night. The total value of the box was, or the was each box were breaking, is two hundred and fifty dollars and it's a case of cards, so it's fifteen hundred dollars and we divide it so each and each person got too. So each person paid one hundred dollars and they got two teams for that. Okay, okay, well to apply that by fifteen fifteen hundred, So if someone had the angels, we pulled it. We pulled in

ony. Here it is and game used jersey, so that that goes to him, to him, and what is that worth? That one's one hundred and fifty dollars. So he got his money back in terms of absolutely an exactly piece of his jersey and a piece of the jersey. How do we know that's a game used jersey, just exactly. We're helping top everybody's and that has his autograph. How do we know later that has more value later based on player performance? Right? Right, but right now it's one hundred

and fifty. Oh he's the hottest player. We did a show in Anaheim, and obviously it's an Anaheim. They play there, but they tany out everybody by a mile or all these from last night here from last night, yes, so who else is in there? Oh? This this is my old mentor, he owned a baseball and then you ordered these cases from somewhere, the manufacturers from tops. Yep, we've been in visited, like we talked about a long time. So we get everything direct from the manufacturing Tops

Pannini upper Deck. All right, Okay, fanatics just got in the game. They're buying everything. So and guess what, he took a class, get them and geek them. No. But but but the thing is they're having fun. We do different. Yeah, in terms of having fun, you must be having fun. I love my job. I have fun every day. It's not even worked to me. I've been doing this twenty five years. You can wear a doctor jersey to work, okay on Fridays.

Other than that, we do have a uniform we were yeah, like a collared shirt or oh yeah, but on Fridays we get to wrap our teams here Lakers, okay, and no diamondback and no diamondbacks jersey. I know she's got my diamondbacks. I try. I try to button up the old Randy Johnson. It didn't. That was what two thousand and one. So we're talking a couple of decades and you look, you still look good.

Thank you, Mom. Man. Okay, So you got baseball cards and all, you know, all the different training cards, your Pokemon, all that kind of stuff. So I see some basketballs over there, I see some jerseys. Uh, trash cans up there on the wall. I mean where what other types of stuff that you deal in here? You know how much a part of your business is that? Or is it? Are you? Mostly primarily it's cards, but we do so a lot of memorabiliya and

novel tis. Also. You know during Christmas holidays we bring in a lot of that stuff. People just want presents. They don't know what it's better. But this is actually a collectible store for like more the avid collector. He had to have my book here and he's someone, look here a lot of you a old stuff. Yeah stuff. I got a pair of signed Channing Fry basketball shoes from his senior day. Uh huh. How much can I get for that? Because my son he abandoned. Those are kind of

one of the kind. They one of a kind that's a more rare piece. So it's just whatever someone's willing to pay for those. So if we put a four hundred, five hundred dollars price, haag, nobody but buys it, you lower it until someone buys better than ca Maathrine signed shoes or selling for a thousand dollars. Wow, yep, okay right and used to have Poppy. You have cursed stuff here. You have the guys a lot of the Arizona stuff. We're a big Arizona shop. U of a.

We bring in the team now with a nail agreements. We bring in they do signings. Uh. The assistant coach was just here and he's we're talking about bringing the Caleb Love and uh the other uh Bradley, no one diego. Yeah, some people and do the the curves and the colocos still go well because the glory years absolutely people love those teams. Steve Curse still on. You know he's obviously the head coach of the Golden State Warriors, so

you see a lot of his stuff. How much does stuff fluctuate though, depending on how the teams do a lot more than you one would think. Yeah, for football, it's every Sundays he throws four, you know, five touchdowns. People want his card. You know that kid from h from Minnesota, Addison, Nobody really heard him. He went to USC the wide receiver just In Jefferson was hurt. He had a big game be able to come in here. Do you have his rookie card? Do you have his

autograph? Wow? So literally it fluctuates more than one would you're when you're on, say I get some of that, I get some of that. Absolutely, Yes, yes, we go for the guys that we were holding their cards. So you've got him in the book out come on, let's go. Yes, Yes, that's crazy. It's crazy that it does that. It does that, and that's why the old price guides, the Beckett price guides are kind of irrelevant because it changes instantly like that as a matter

of a game. So you basically have to go online and see what it's valued. A lot of times eBay sold listening to eBay because that's a true market, that's what it's act and so much willing to pay for. Yeah, okay, wow, that's and you've been here for how long? Twenty five years and this one, uh twenty over twenty years. We're in this complex, we've been here twenty five years. O. Wait, every time we grew we're in three suites. Now we started with one suite, then

two suites. Now we're at three new renovating. Yes, yeah, and then we're building because we're about the streams. We're rebuilding the offices, putting in studios and renovating. Given us place of faces, some what's the what's the most possession you have inside inside and maybe out of your real life, Like what would you say that's cool if you have something here that that's cool

for somebody here? A lot of like Arizona stuff like Benedict Mathrine shoes or jerseys, game jerseys, and personally, and then we also have like one of the cards. Oh, personally, I have a Kobe Bryant tops chrome card. It's super rare. It's less than fifty in existence. It's a perfect card PSA ten. I bought the card when my son was born, so eighteen years ago, four thousand dollars and now it's valued that last one

sold for one hundred and sixty one thousand, that it's not here. Yeah, wow, Wow, when you had the foresight to think, what were you thinking? No, I was just collecting them. You know. I was a big Lakers fan. I love Kobe Bryant. I wanted to have all his cards. And my ex wife was my wife at that time, Like what, well, are you doing spending this kind of and we didn't have the money. I put on a credit card. She's like, what are you doing spending this money on this cardfe she's ad one more of those

in your gun, and then there was one more. You notice he's happy. They're jerks. I'm not talking to you anymore, all right, that that alarm was designing. We got to get the hell out of here. So hey, George, well we're gonna stick around. We'll get you back here later and tomorrow. Thanks for stopping by for a second, and thanks for the lesson. That's a lot. That's a lot of can you Yeah, all right, guys, take us out. We're we're out here.

We'll be back and we'll we'll take your cost five two zero four six seventy four forty. On the other side, Hey, welcome back to I on the ball here we are show time cars. Hope we can hear us. Uh, everything going okay? We got sixteen minutes, maybe thirteen minutes, uh not even that eleven minutes minutes. You don't want to call please do? It is fun talking to to George here. Yeah, no again. You know, it's it's sort of a big playground. In here, a

lot of cool stuff going on. You have a big thing tonight. They have a big something going on tonight. They're cleaning up. You have the kid. I think they have a big break or so much. Let's where they're kind of dressed in. Yeah, all right, Steve World series stressing man. Yeah, you know what I I took. I took a bite

of it. I don't think that the I think that the Rangers win at home, Okay tonight tonight, Well, even though they're going against the Diamondbacksace, I don't know enough to be smarter than Yeah, that's my problem. Well, I'm just thinking I'm just going with the chalk at home and see what happens. Well, both of these teams, you know, you can say King kind of came out of nowhere. I mean some people saying, oh I knew they were gonna do this. They both came out of nowhere,

a five seed and a six seed. So you know, whether or not, you know, you think they belong there or what. Nobody knows what's gonna happen with these two teams because they both got so hot at the same time. They both beat other really good teams. They've got on the tear and and here they are. What were the Rangers? I know the Diamonducks for six seed right now, the Rangers were five, Diamondbacks were six. So let me ask you this narrative. It always happens because you know,

media guys go after this story. No one respected them, no one expected this. We're gonna prove people wrong. I'm tired of that because these guys can play. Everybody can play. They're they're major leaguers for a reason. Whether you have people not doubting youever, that doesn't have to be your

motivation. And we've talked about, Steve, where baseball Baseball is a is a you know, Major League Baseball is a sport where you know, any team can get hot over over a short period of time, just you know, and these two teams did that, and then that, you know, I think all the other sports are more predictable. You know, Basketball is more predicted. Football is certainly more producially the best team with the rast records.

But in baseball, for some reason, you know, with with just the way the game is, anybody can get hot at any time and go do something like that. You know, bad teams have winning streaks. Sure, look at look at Arizona specifically, they were very good, then they were not very good. Then they survived and got in, right, and look at this the season as a as a whole, right, and that's

what and that's why. That's the way baseball is. So, you know, I mean I knew, you know, when the Dodgers even though they were the one or the two seed. Yeah, and they you know, and they were the one, the top seed on their side of the bracket, you know you I mean, there wasn't anything that told me, I you know that the two seed, they're you know, they're in the National

Championship Series. There's no way because you gotta go play, and any team a pitcher or a pitching staff can get hot realistically, not realistically, uh true to form. Wise, it would have been Atlanta, Atlanta and the Dodgers, and no I thought was in the World Series. You should have been in Atlanta, Baltimore, Baltimore, Okay, right, because they were the best they were. I would have said Atlanta, Houston, but okay, I'll go with Baltimore. And it was hardly that. Yeah, Baltimore

didn't get out of the first round. Yeah, well neither did the Dodgers. Neither did the Brave, So uh, you know, you just you just never know. And in baseball is such a thing that again as unpredictable as anything. All you got to do is get hot, right, And it's funny. It's funny. They were talking about the ratings. They're not gonna be very good. It doesn't care, it doesn't matter if you're if you're a range, do you give one crap, not a damn crap,

not a damn Hey, we're here. We don't have to prove it to Yeah. No, yeah, you're one hundred percent. It's like and again, I you know, we we talked about this a little bit the other day. You know, it's the damn World Series. You know, you get to a super Bowl. Do you care if it's if the Patriots aren't in it, or if the Chiefs aren't in it. It's the damn Super Bowl. You're gonna watch the World Series. I'm sending here talking to my wife and let's go to a movie tonight. She goes, don't watch a

baseball game. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I want to stay home and watch a game. You know, I'm running for the Diamondbacks. Well, look at that. The world's gonna end. I'm a nationalist, I'm an in the end, I'm a Nation League fan. I mean, if the if the Astros were in the National League and had done no, no there, you would have been that way. Yeah, but it's it's got some pride. I mean, I have hate people. No, no, you have a big getting here.

We're here in Arizona, and I would venture to guess that let's say the population is whatever, a hundred thousand, uh fifty percent of the people don't even know who the diamond bags are that that's come out. How many people can you name? That's true? And you know, down here in Tucson, Man, ever since they kind of you know, you know, as I like to say, they threw us the finger and left took spring training with them. Yea, you know, there's been less of a less

less of a you know following down here. You know that they they don't do the buses anymore, all that kind of stuff that they do down here. So they've kind of taken their presence away from from Tucson. And that's fine. But you know what, no matter what they were gonna do,

Sure, there's fans of other teams, even in Phoenix. And you know we had Bob when Bob camp was on the other day, he said, you go to a Dodger, a Dodger diving back regular season except for the state, knowing which stadium you're and you don't know who's the who's the home team? Sure, So I was just gonna ask you, Oh, so it's been twenty two years. Does it feel like twenty two years since the

last one? It feels longer, you know, yeah, because you know, you want when you think about when you think about two thousand and one, you think that was the year of nine to eleven, and that it seems so long ago. You feel like we've been living the way we're living post nine to eleven almost our entire life. So it does feel like a

long time ago to me. You know, I was talking to my sister who you know, she we went to We went together to game one, my brother Jean who was just here, and my sister e Lane and Adam and my son Adam and I. We went to game one, blew off in Arizona, Arizona football game against USC I remember that Saturday, right, yes, Saturday game to go to Game one. I started listening to it at at at the ballpark and and what's in the quarterback that John mckovic had

through for a lot of yards, through for a lot of yards. He threw a pick six to lose that game. And I would say, I was so happy I wasn't there to see that. So let me tell you by my wife at the time, we had tickets. We gave them to my best friend in New Mexico. They came out, flew out because you know, you're thinking, we'll get opportunities again, and you know how those opportunities, but it don't happen. They don't. It don't happen. Well,

I had, I had. I was at twoson Electric at the time, so we had you know, we're still in the relationship through spring training and all that stuff with them and I, you know, I had a ticket to Game seven because we had four seats and I and I was, you know, since I was the one that kind of put that deal together. You know, I got I was getting one of the seats and I couldn't go because of the Red and Blue game that night. I had work. I had to go work the Red and Blue game. So I watched.

But my sister who was at our house today, she was remembering who used ticket one of the other guys from TV. Yeah, and uh and she, you know, she went to the game and still remembers that yesterday. Didn't she have one of a crush She's on Louis Louis Lewis, while she also had a crush on Steve Finley later on after that, girl, your girl's got a lot of crushes. But you know, it was it

was a great time. Uh. You know, look when the when the Cardinals got into the Super Bowl. I'm not a Cardinals fan, not in the least, that seems not in the least, but I was rooting for them. Yeah, you know, we watched that Super Bowl. We were all excited the Steelers. We were all excited. That was a great playof run, you know, and that was fun to watch. And Kurt Warner was a likable guy, and Larry Fitzgerald and those guys that you were on

that team probable, yeah, very improbable. And you just don't never expect the Cardinals to get into to do anything. But that was a great run. We had fun. We were pulling for the Suns a couple of years ago when they got to the finals, right wanted them to win. So I'm I'm an Arizona guy. I'll root for those guys. I don't hate them. I'm just not a I'm not a fan. From the standpoint of being a follower. There's not an affiliated there's nothing like a tie in.

You know, maybe maybe uh DeAndre, but then was not a likable yeah, so you know, it's it's that and that's a little bit of a shame of what's happened with the you know, with the Phoenix Pro Sports over time. But look, if they're selling enough seats by just marketing to the Phoenix area, then more power to them. You know, I think they'll

be fine after that. They're not though, they're not. They're not selling a lot of seats now everyone well nobody is though, you know Baseball and baseball are they Yeah, you know, I mean en franchise is like the Dodgers, the Yankees, you know some of those they're still you know, they're still drawing. Well, let me ask you, because we have how many about three minutes year three minutes So I don't go to I went to

I went to a d back game this year. Watch Baltimore cost me about seventy five dollars a ticket, a couple of tickets hundred and fifty h So what's the price of a ticket to go? And they're pricing you out because they got to pay these damn guys. Right, that's one of the things.

That's why would you go. That's one of the things. I mean, we paid, uh, you know, fifty bucks you said in the in the at the highest level seat, you know, but that's he used to be you know, five bucks, Yeah, you know, ten bucks. Well that was how long ago, I know, but fifty even if it's twenty five, it's twenty five and you get four people. But here's what we got killed, you know. Then you go to the snack bar, I got two bottles of water. Yeah, fifteen bucks. Fifty Okay,

what about parking? Forty bucks? See right, almost have two hundred bucks. Forty bucks from tickets? How many tickets? Two tickets, two tickets a well you're spending two hundred at least, well for that for the playoff game. We we just got the cheapest ticket week No, no, give me a total for for everything, for everything. While we spent one hundred dollars for tickets. We spent one hundred and twenty bucks to eat.

We ate at one of the sports books right next to the stadium. That was another hundred and twenty with a couple of beers and and and food. We spent uh. Then got into the stadium and got to spend fifteen bucks on water. But our seat was so high and so far away from the tunnel. I didn't even get my usual bag of peanuts or non chow. I thought, if I go down, I'm not making it back up. So I didn't come. But we had a great time, you know.

And you know we weren't buying souvenirs, right I did you know they were giving us. They were giving out rally towels at that game, and we were walking. We got a Dodger gear on, and they said you can't have one. I said, come on, man, I said, I'm from Tucson. My sister's a Diamondbacks fan. I got to take her one or she's going to dis own me. So they game one about min and a half. Okay, we have one of our guests, our usual callers

in in the house. We'll talk to him after the hour. Oh yeah, there he is, mister Dodger Victor, What are you hot outside? Vic? So we'll have him on all right, we'll get Vic on over here after the plans. Hey, you guys are ready for breaking news over there? Yep? Okay, okay, all right man, we got about a minute. Yeah, we got by a minute, so all right, we're gonna get that. We're gonna get one of our one of our fans on over here. We showed up at the place, so uh, we'll

talk about a fan. This is busy in here. Anybody here whose guys are dealing if it's background music or news or verbiage or whatever. We're at Showtime Cards, Showtime Cards, fifty eight oh one East Speedway. We're gonna be here for another hour, right, so if you want to come here and hang out with us for a little bit, feel free to do that. We'll get you on the air. We want to get your picks for the organ organ I mean for there is on an Oregon State game. A

right, So all right, we're gonna head out. We'll be right back. Good music, better in the chip around to the Saint Sante and start it all down.

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