This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions KATCR two side and I Heeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to you. I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Jay Gonzalez. All I have to say to you, ja is nil has really messed up a lot of things. Well, first, the first thing it's messed up is a lot of people's heads.
Yes, fans and otherwise fans and fans and media. It's just you know, uh I I don't ever dread coming in here, Okay, no, because I have such a great time. We have fun, We get to say our piece, and then we go home and do whatever we do. But there's a butt. There's a butt because you know what we're talking about, this Cranton guard Ryan nem Hard, who decide go to gonzag instead of coming to Arizona, and the fan base and the media and Tucson has lost
its mind, has lost or they had already lost it. This is poured more onto you know. Well, yeah, and and I know, we have to talk about it, and we should talk about it, and we need to talk about it. But I hate the harping that we have to do or that I do, that I have to do on this freaking fan base and the freaking media who thinks they know so much when they know right right, you never know. It was a crazy few hours, maybe six seven hours. Oh sure, of course I got into it with one guy
and not bad, a little bit back and forth. Um, and to me, it's it's crazy. Things are going to work out however they work out. I said to somebody it's gonna be fine, whatever that means. But everybody, everybody's kind of saying Tommy Lloyd can't do it, and he just wons sixty some games, sixty one game. It started this morning.
You know. There was a certain media member who I've had little things with on social media who before this came, before the announcement, Kun said, if this guy doesn't come to Arizona, you have to doubt Tommy's ability as a recruiter. And I'm like, really, really, he's won sixty one freaking games. What are you doubting. You don't doubt until you know that he can't do it. I mean, that was stupid, and I hope
he's listening and he might be that was stupid. I didn't I didn't go out on there and call him out because last time I did he almost cried. But it was stupid for him to say that if Tommy misses one guy whose brother went to Gonzaga and got into the NBA through Gonzaga, so he decided to go to Gonzaga, that that means Tommy Lloyd is a bad recruiter.
Shut the f up, Okay, all right? Then there are a bunch of them that followed, and up to about forty five minutes ago, somebody posts Tommy Lloyd maybe all on X is an own guy x is and all this guy, but there are serious concerns about his recruiting ability really and this selectiveness and offering recruiting and offering recruits, his biding Arizona in the ass.
Do you know how many guys Tommy Lloyd has been recruiting? You know, you don't know, so guys who again they say it so that we'll talk about it right right, Let me ask you something, but you don't have to answer the question. But in fact I said this to Ben Ben Davis says, what's going on? And did you how many people are? How many women have you fallen in love with? Oh? Wait, you could say ten, five, two? Whatever? Did you fall in love? Did you marry the first one? Did you marry the second one?
Right? The third one? There's more, there's more busses that come around that you don't even know if they missed on them hard, they missed on the next kid, the kid that might be going to Louisville. There's not a third guy. There's not a fourth guy. Right, they're not a fifth guy. They'll be fine, right? Do these do these guys who say I've this isn't the first time I heard that he's being very selective?
And who he offers? Do you really know? Have you been in his in his office to see his recruiting board, see how many guys he's recruiting and he's making offers suits? You haven't, So what the hell do you say? Like I said yesterday the day before when we went, let's go, I you're on the air and I on the ball. How's it going today? Oh? We're mad? I'm mad right now? No, I couldn't tell what Brian, Well, hey, you know I think people are
starting to panic for no real reason whatsoever. I mean, I'm not surprised this guy went to Gonzaga. It was either US or Gonzaga, you know. And and he went to a place where he had family who went there and they know the system, and you know, and even though Tommy Lloyd helped recruit him in the first the brother the first place U went there, you know, he went there. So there's there's there's two thousand other kids out there. We're gonna find some people. People have to relax. You
know. One thing too, we don't need a lot of people. And people think we got to get nine new guys, right right, We only need about two three people, two or three good players exactly. We're out there somewhere exactly. Let me. Let me see that, and we're gonna find him, because you know, we're gonna find the guys who will fit into Tommy Lloyd's system. One thing to this guard that went from Crayton to Gonzaga, he was a point guard. We already have a point guard.
Yeah, let me see. I don't know if this guy wanted to be the number two, the two guard or not, but obviously he wants to be a point guard. Let me say this. I think in the next day or so, or maybe a little longer, that we'll find out that he uh that the will will have received a few dollars to go, right. I'm sure, I'm sure he did. And that's the name of the
day. You know. That's all these kids are doing now. You know, it's like the color yesterday we talked about, you know, Jake, when Dolora came here, and when Dolora came here, they didn't have the big nil money yet. You know right now, what would have happened if Glora would have stayed at Washington State one year then left after this year? Yeah, you know right, he's going to the highest bidder. Yeah. I think that's exactly right. And people better get used to the idea.
It's the highest bidder. Now, if these people who complain I want to sit here and coffee up, come twenty up a bunch of money, then maybe that'll help out. That's that's where that's where I wanted to go with it. And we talked about this yesterday with with Jay I said, Okay, anybody who comments, give twenty bucks every time you comment on Facebook to bitch about it send twenty bucks to you. Of a they need the money
to pay for the nil. They've got to coming from somewhere. If all the people who were considered about their bitching here, here's another twenty bucks, it's like twenty dollars jar the twenty dollars are you know? And one thing too, I think people have to realize in about four or five years,
NIF will change differently because what's going to happen. These boosters who are paying all this money gonna find out they're not getting at a large return on their money exactly exactly and there, and they're gonna quit paying because they said, well, I paid you guys a million dollars. What am I getting out of it? These in tickets? Yeah. So this is what I also say to people over the last time. You've been a fan for a long
time. I know this, Uh, since you've watched the NCAA tournament throughout the years, Uh, you haven't hasn't proven that talent doesn't always win the game. Yeah, and Arizona has experienced that first time. They've had the better plays on the floor pretty much most most of the times since nineteen eighties. So you have to chase these five stars, we've already gone through that.
How did that go? Right? You know? And I'm always I'm on wondering too in the last few years, how much of these transfer n IL people are are becoming national champions. Not a lot of them, right, but they're I mean, they're they're they're there for two reasons, when to collect the money and two to move on to the next level, right right. And let's say, I don't I don't blame them, but but the fans need to relax and say, Okay, it's not about Arizona's now
about Tommy Lloyd. It's a about the situation and not to Stephen, not not just the fan the media that you know, there's some trusted media members out there who are seeing stupid stuff and it's like, you know, people believe them for you know, people believe you and me. Sometimes as ridiculous as that sounds, people believe you and me. Sometimes people believe it is
very scary because it's out there, you know. You know, some of these guys know they have an audience, and so it's like, let let me be as stupid as I can possibly be, and that that that's frustrating for me. You know, you really wonder what would have happened if lud Olsen was coaching in this era, would have quit immediately. We talked about that. We talked about that they went to taking it much to get Okay, Brian, Hey, thanks a munch man. Okay, Yeah, I
like Brian's points all the way around. Um, it's gonna be about it. It's if it ain't know about the money. It's about the money. It's about the money. It's about the money. He would have had a better, not a better. He's gonna be fine there. He would have been fine here, right, and over the last twenty years, sorry to say this, Jay, Gonzaga has been a bitter program. They happened. Of course, we've talked about that. I don't know if fans know that.
Yeah, realized well maybe not last year though right last year, you know, Gonzaga slipped a little Arizona with you know when further in the tournament. Absolutely, But but you know, the point being that, you know, if you want to if you want to say he's a tailble recruiter, maybe you ought to wait to see what he puts on the floor. Yeah, right, And if they if they come out of the box, next year and they're losing game. They've got new guys and they're not very good
and they're losing. Now you say, okay, you know, bad job, bad job recruiting this last year. But today, with sixty one wins under his belt in two seasons, you're gonna call him a bad recruiter. You're full crap, Hi, you're on the air on on the balls, Yeah about not getting that hard. I don't think he was that big of a deal not coming here because he's an average ball player. I don't see what the big attraction of him was anyway. I mean, I I just
saw him have some decent games, nothing spectacular to me. I don't care if he hasn't come here. Wherever we have enough average players here is you know, not enough. But I don't think he would help the program that much by being here. And that's and that's what we don't know. That's that's what we don't know. Because but one of the things that that uh, you know, that we don't know is how how would he have fit in here? And maybe that's why he went to Gonzaga because maybe he didn't
feel like you fitting here. Maybe Tommy doesn't think he fits in here, but he went after him because he had a relationship with the guy. Yeah, I mean he's a good he's an act. He's an average ball player, I think, you know. And he's too tall, Yes, he's pretty small. So yeah, and um, you know, we'll be fine.
The basketball team will be fine and appreciate you guys shows always. And I think what we don't know is what what everyone or what people perceived knowing well, they know because their plumbers or their doctors or whomever, they know what's going on in somebody else's life. The basketball world, they really don't know. Ye, they really don't know, but they can easily talk about it on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. Yeah. And I guess I need
to realize left them and I do. I do. Um, Like I said, I got into it one I just commented, uh, talking about fans, and I talked about it's because they won the title twenty six years ago and here they are. Here, they are, many of them in their tens teens at the time, are talking about this and he can't do the job, and that one victory, that one victory has them like they are the poop. Yeah, you know. The thing for me, Steve is that, you know, because you know a lot of what we talk
about. You know, we see what's up, we see what people are talking about it there on social media or whatever, and we see what they're talking about it, and that's what that's what we do with our show. And we talk about that stuff. And I couldn't turn away. I knew I should turn away, but I couldn't turn away. It's like about car crash. Yeah, I couldn't turn away from it. So I can say, Okay, that guy's an idiot, that guy's an idiot. That guy's
an idiot, and that guy's an idiot. Yeah. Let me also because again because the proof is right now, the proof is right, let me also see that we're not in the alibi. At least I'm not in the alibi business. Tommy lawyer doesn't need an alibi. Uh, let's see how this all plays out exactly. This is day one in a long marriage and exactly, and these these people don't want it to play out. They want to say, this is what we know today, so he must suck.
Yeah, it's a crazy time. It's a crazy time. So many factors. Um, we'll see, we'll see eventually. But today, when when that happened, and I posted something, and then some other people in the wildcat stuff, and I'm thinking, really, really, it's that that important. Yes, I completely say I didn't post anything because I was gonna do what I'm doing now. I was gonna rant on somebody, and as I
said, I'm just gonna leave it. We'll talk about it on the show, you know, because that's you know, that's our form, that's our platform. We'll talk about it on the show. And if somebody that somebody that I've spoken about without mentioning their names, is offended by that, fine, I have to go back and check. Yeah, to go back and check. I kind of know who talk you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, but it's stupid. It's stupid. And the thing is, Steve, there's not one of these guys, not a one of them who who who knows, you know, has a pinki's worth of knowledge that Tommy Lloyd has you you're bringing out? Yeah, right, seriously, right, yeah, just Tommy Lloyd for gets more basketball in his sleep than these guys have ever known. And that drives me crazy because what it does, you know, That's one of the things that I saw posted some some national guy post.
If you want to see an absolutely bad stuff crazy fan base, go look at the reaction to Tommy Lloyd not getting who was it? Who's whose goodman? Uh? Kevin Sweeney from College Basketball Central, Yeah, I don't know who that is. If you want an illustration of how in Saint fan bases can be, go read whatever's on the fans are saying about Tommy Lloyd this morning after one number one seed and one number two seed is in two
years as a head coach. And that's what I'm saying. You've actually all this BS, you might have to be careful with because because you were not, I've been close like four times that the BS is gonna say, you know what, I don't need this crap right right? Why would I go there is? Isn't that one of the reasons. Hey, we gotta let's go get We're gonna talk more about this with Jake Spish is going to come
on. He's been out on social media rat ratting on some of these people, which he should be and I appreciate, yeah, Jake doing that, and then in the second hour, Dave Hickey will be on. Yes, we hope, we hope. He retweeted our our social media, so he knows. Thank you, Thanks Dave. We'll talk to you a little bit. So stick around. It's Ben, It's gonna be a fun day.
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How are you feeling given what you've seen on the internet today regarding basketball? Well, like we were talking about before. Of course, that was one of the folks that was a little pissed. I didn't go on there and say, oh my god, everything is going to hell in a handbasket. If this guy's falling, the world's gonna end, and that we're gonna, you know, end up eleven or twelve see, like everybody else I
saw. I just at first, I was up set because I had heard for the last couple of weeks rumblings that he was going there, and apparently at the very last second is when he decided not to go. However, it's one of those things to where if we would have landed him, it would have been a perfect start. And I think everyone's getting frustrated because you have teams like you know, I don't know Arkansas, who have already got my five or six transfer commits, and they're just kind of taking anybody that
they want. So Tommy looks a little bit more laid back. He's gonna go ahead and focus on the guys he knows could fit right in and basically, you know, do what they want right away. I still think that there's gonna be some folks that go into Portal a little bit late. I
think that Tommy knows what he's doing. The only thing that I can see from you know, their standpoint is maybe if we get you know, a more dynamic recruiter or something on, you know, as an assistant coach, or maybe if we up to nil, which you know, the people that are complaining a lot of them probably don't give, you know, to the NIOL stuff. But the other thing is, you know, I think at the end of the day, I think we somehow find out how to get
a better roster than what we had last year. You know, I mean, I think our starting point guard is going to be better. We have a three that's going to be better than he was last year. We have a five that's going to be better than they were last year. We have probably two guys that are going to come off the bench that are going to be a heck of a lot better, and who knows, they might be
forced into maturing a little bit early. Not having them hard there is going to force Kylan to become who we know, he's probably going to be a little bit earlier. And I just think from an athletic standpoint, if we get more athletic with the type of offensive system that we run, and we can get another maybe combo guard with another wing, you know, maybe an athletic you know, I don't know, a power forward that can shoots.
I know I'm asking a lot here, but I think that we're going to get it done with our bench that's gonna be a little bit better than they will last year. It's getting, you know, a little freshman that just came over from Europe. I think we're gonna be fine. Well, And that's the thing again, you know. The bothersome thing to me, Jake, is that you know, Tommy's put together two incredible seasons, sixty one
wins, a number one seed and number two seed. Granted it didn't go well in the ncable A Tournament, but it's like he's not a good coach now because he didn't get this one guy. And you can't recruit because you didn't get this one guy. They're used to Sean Miller bringing in the top three class every year, and then you'd have guys leave after one year transfer,
you know what I mean. So if you have when you get into the NC double A tournament, not only is guard play very important, which I think we're still going to have improved guard play, but another thing that's very important is having seasoned guys. So if you have guys coming back for their second and third years, or you're bringing in a couple of transfers that are a little bit older. That's a good thing. Like that just what
the transfer portal should be used for. Plugging it immediate play guys that are a little bit older that can make an impact and that they're dynamic. And I think there's still going to be guys out there. And you gotta remember, I think we got Cedric and Ramy like in June or something last year, so we still have time. There's still going to be good players leading
in the portal. And who knows, maybe there's someone on you know, a lesser team right now that's looking at Themhart, you know, not going to Arizona and saying, hey, I think I'm pretty good. I would like to play in that system for you know, the winning his head coach throughout his first two years. You just never know. And I think these guys they're they're very calculated. They leave options open and then you know,
the future is still bright. kJ Lewis is coming in next year. I think he's going to be a very dynamic three or four year player, Televot defender. He's a little bit bigger and stronger athletic. I think he can guard better than anyone we've had, you know, alongside Kyl and Bob as well. And the other thing is you're bringing in Jamari Phillips, who's a legit two or three year player who is probably going to be able to light it up his second here when he gets more comfortable in the system. And
we still are supposed to land Carter Bryant. And now that Themhart is leaving, if we bring in a senior for that two guard position, who knows, don might reclassify, So there's still a lot of options on the table. I just think, you know, I was a little stunned at first as well, because we've been told for three weeks this is the person that's
coming, and then he left at the last second. But then after you know, cooling my head off and getting off Twitter, I'm like, well, you know what, his brother went to Gonzaga's brother one's probably telling him to go to gonzag He probably wanted who cares onto the next week, right
and his brother who got to the NBA through Gonzaga. I mean, yeah, and even though Tommy was a big part of that, you never know, like, you know, my little brother wanted to go to the U of A like I did, you know, It's like you have brothers want to go where you know they're comfortable, and because he had probably been to quite a few games up at Gonzaga and hung out with all of the coaching staff there, which I think the only you know, new coach they have
is the one that replaced Tommy and the kids, you know, the guy from Florida State. But I mean the entire support system there is probably very similar to what it was when his brother went there. So so Jake where I know, you read all the stuff and then shame on you, but but it is what it is. Where do you think the fan base at Arizona went wrong? And I say that reluctantly, But you know what I'm
saying, why why have they become so crazed? Well? I just think that a few years ago Sean Miller had to bring in a bunch of guys you know, from overseas and from uh, you know, Canada and whatnot to fill a roster because of the FBI hanging over our head. And then that first year that coach Wood was here, he had so much success that everyone has already you know, completely tried to put us up in the blue Bloods like we're still a step down. We're not going to get there.
For it's one of those things to who knows, we may never get there. We might be a villanova that has two or three championships while all the other blue bloods end up having seven, eight, nine, ten. Who knows. But the fact of the matter is he's a hell of a coach. And you know, I think it's just because it's been such a long
drought since we've been to a Final four. As soon as they saw that first year where you know, we got to the sweet sixth team, and if we would have been you know, a little bit more rough around the edges, with better guard play, we would have been used in in my opinion. But I mean, the fact is he just took a roster that
had no business being a two seed. And who knows, maybe we would not have been a two seed if we would have been in a harder league, even though we had all those big time games where we beat good teams. But the fact of the matter is he masked a lot of the deficiencies. Wasn't a great defensive squad, wasn't a very guard driven squad, wasn't a very athletic squad, you know, and that's what happened to us against Princeton. So you know, hey, bring us some more athletic guys.
You're going to have some guys two or three years in the system, better guard play, and I want to see how the system goes because he's kind of doing the you know, the mix and match thing like what lud Olson did, where you have guys here two or three years and then remember when Sean Miller first got here, and he's sprinkling a bunch of you know, two three year players with a five star that can jump in the starting lineup right away. If we get a Carter Bryant. We have some of these
guys that have been around for a couple of years. I think we're going to start getting back to that. But you can't just recruit one and done's like Sean Miller had to do for the three or four year period and try to mix them together. You need good guard play, you need some athletes, and then if you have a hold of fill, you go out and get one of those five stars, or you go out and get an instant,
you know, performer in the transfer portal. Yeah, so let me ask you Oh, let me say this, what if you don't get the Brian kid been one, well, everyone's gonna melt down again. And then, you know, the only the only reason he wouldn't come here is for some reason he got some crazy backdoor deal by Louisville. But from everything that I've heard, I mean the kid cried, sorry, not the kid, I'm getting old enough. The young man cried when he got an offer from
coach Tommy Willard. I guess it was a dream school. So yes, I would be very surprised if he didn't come here. But at the same time, because of what just happened with the them hard kid, I'm gonna be a little bit numb. And then hey, next next person up, go find somebody else. Yeah, And you just don't know, You just don't know. You never do. And recruiting because of the NIL is going
to be a lot different. You know. It's like, hey, you know Louisville who only won four games last year versus Tommy wod winning sixty one games in his first two years. Normally that would be a pretty good uh, you know, you would know exactly where he's going right now because Louisville can drop him quite you know, a lot of money. Then you know, you just never know. Like I'm still like all the sites, you
know, with them hard they were saying Arizona one percent leak. Well guess what all the sites are saying right now for Carter the same damn thing. So gear up exactly exactly. It just I just I don't know, just pissing me off, don't it din't help people? And to tell you that we talked about this yesterday too. You have the Arizona fan base that are okay, what Timmy, Timmy, and then giving a little slack to Adia who's going through the same stuff. Right. You gotta get the players,
Gotta get the players, gotta coach the players. I mean, it's two kind of different dynamics. Well and Adia's you know, Adia, the last couple of classes have been kind of like you know, the last couple of Sean Miller class. Right, It's like you have to completely reconstruct the entire roster every year. And I like if some of the players she's taking, I think she's starting to take some of these gals that are going to take
you know, roles better. They're not just going to be, you know, thinking that they're going to be a starter and a star in two songs. So, um, I think she's going to figure it out. I mean at that level, if you get one person that can perform in march, they can almost take you all the way. You guys saw that with Area, So you know, good Guard played both ways. You have some folks that have been there, done it, play defense and you have a
chance. Yeah. I hear you, man, I hear you. And it's just but it's it's Look, I'm the fan in the room here, right, and it's just frustrating to watch this the other fans, right, Yeah, you watch what the other fans do and like like like Steve, you know, I mean, how much of why look whether or not you think Kirk Crissa should have stayed, was a good player or whatever, how much of why he left was because of the fan base here? And just
you know, I don't know. It just bothers me that that fan bases, you know, are liked and can be like that and with this, with these platforms that they have, and they make the rest of us look bad. You know. Well, Tommy Lloyd is trending on on on Twitter right now literally because because this is what I'll this is what I'll tell you. I know that Tommy probably doesn't have a Twitter. He does, I don't think you can because you know, as players when you're young, sometimes
you read into your press clipping. I can't tell you how many stupid crap I saw, you know, on Twitter and Facebook and message as I got from idiots that have never picked up a basketball or football in their lifetime. When I didn't have a great game on when we lost as a team, so um, you know, I a fan telling me, I hope you know they helped I broke my ankle. When I busted up my ankle gets Washington my senior year, Like, there are gonna be idiots like that.
You can't read into it. You learn that after you're freshman year. So if that's the reason he left, and I, you know, I don't know what to tell you. I think it's just more of Kyland Boswell looking to take the next step, and we're looking to get another dynamic guard that can do more than shoot, you know, threes and run up the floor and throw a pass over everyone else is running. That's honestly what I think. I think he's going to be a good player, you know, I
just think that they want something more and that's not a bad thing. Yeah. Agree. And the other thing is, you know there's been rumblings about some guys overseas a and I know people don't like to hear that. I think they start is going to be I mean Tommy got Umar, you know, and it took him a couple of years to figure it out. Pellas a guy from overseas, even though he went to Utah first, we brought him over here. Kurls was from overseas, been math and was from a
different country. He went to rout U, you know, playing the NBA Mexico League. I think coming up here, Christian Coloco saying, you can find those guys. They're not going to come in here and dominate from you know, the first game. You're not going to get you know, DeAndre and r Marvin Bagley from up the street in Phoenix or whatever. I could
do the same thing. So I've heard that there are some guys overseas that look like they're going to be an even quicker contributor than you know, a Vassar or whatever it might be. And I mean tu Bellas remember his freshman year, he had all the tools, but there were some games where the defenses showed him stuff and he didn't know how the heck to get to a spot. And you know, he got most of his points on fast breaks
and he just averaged twenty and ten as a junior. So if you get a few of these guys, you sprinkling, you know, with some older American guys whatever. But the fact that you know, people all of a sudden are like, you know, you look it over Gonzago, the people that he took there, and now people all of a sudden are saying, whoa, We just don't know if he's got the eyes you know, for prospects, and you know, blah blah blah. It's like just stop.
You know, it's he's going to fill out the roster, you know, because of the loss in Netmart, who knows we might be second sidle to SC next year. I just still know we have a better coaching staff. But you're gonna have a couple of young guys that are gonna be able to come back. We're gonna have a more athletic team than next year after that. I hate to get ahead of myself, but when some of these really young guys that are still here, you know, that are all of Tony's
guys start getting here. I just have a feeling it's going to be a lot better. But I mean, remember this last year, we lost two guys to the NBA that we thought were barely fringe, and then all of a sudden, the NBA execs washed him to go those guys are pretty good. Let's give him some high grades. And then they left, so we had to fill into spots that he thought he would be able to get back. Yeah, and he's still got a two seed. We got. Just
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Called to Hey, Dreamy Live, I mean, I heart radio. W This is I on the Ball with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fift days. Hey, welcome back to it on the bar here Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagon's office. If you'd like to call us in complain or tell us we'd complain too much, so let us know five two four seventy four forty. The good thing is we have about thirteen minutes. We're gonna talk to Dave hekey on the west side.
Uh, maybe talk to him a little about this, especially with the nil Having talked to Adam Lazaris this week just to see, you know, the time and the place in the field of the cot you know. And Dave and I had a brief conversation. He was he was the NCAA rep at the West region that I was working up in Vegas, and we just had a brief conversation because it was the day that it was right after a Dia Barnes lost like five players in two days, right and and the conversation basically
was this is this is what it is. It is not just here and that you know, you may lose a guy and you think, you like, it's not because you did a bad job recruiting it. You lost the guy because maybe somebody handed this guy sure a whole bunch of money or something, you know. Uh b. John Robinson was on Dan Patrick. I saw that had a conversation about all his Ni l stuff, you know, talking about his Lamborghini and the Mustard, you know, all these things that
he got. You know, he's getting a suit for the you know, for the for the draft and stuff. It's like it's a whole new world for these guys too. No, you just like they're they're making decisions like it's a financial decision on top of being where do I want to play this question? The one thing I got out of that interview with him was he's only visited two teams. Yeah, you two teams and the rest are on zoom, which was that's how we looked at it. But still I saw
did you see the ESPN story on him? Generational type of running back? Who? Who? Who's living in the wrong generation? Right? Because they don't because there's no value in those running backs. They're saying, you know, back in the day, he's the top five pick and he's probably gonna go late first round. Yeah, you know the thing somebody like that. The Eagles who were in the Super Bowl are gonna be able to get him. Be thirty gonna beat thirty, right right? I wish I had his
problems. We guys name yeah, yeah, yeah, So no, that's if you want to call in again. Five two, four, seventy four, forty we're still talking to Maybe we're complaining a little bit too much about the people, but it's I've come out there, you've come down. You must. I did go to the bathroom. My head was exploding. I had I did relieve some pressure. I didn't relieve some pressure talking about stupid stuff. Hey it's Friday, man. Yeah, I'll I'm a little about
my wife's gone out of town. What to do, I'm about myself. Welcome to my world. I'm han't been tonight for sure. You make it. Buy something, Okay, I'll leave to go to a restaurant because there's a nice when it was meat markets over by the best the best one. Okay. Uh so another. We'll keep talking about this until we don't. Recruiting has gone crazy. You know, the guy that I really loved,
I don't know if he's in the transfer fort. The the center for Princeton would be perfect, you know, like the guy that kind of ran they ran everything right, who a nondescript player who just can remind me of Luke Walton, but more athletic. Why are you leaving Princeton to go to He's done because you can only play four years? Oh so he was ga G
And I don't know a situation. But I love those type of players who kind of fit in and just make things they do again, they do what they do, and that fits with every and when you piece it together with everything else. Right. And we talked about this the other day about that being the ninety seventeen correct that not a bunch of stars. Yeah, Mike
Baby was a star, Sure, Moss Simon was a semi star. Dickerson was was really good until but all those pieces, you know, Jason Terry coming off the bed, you know AJ Bramlett, uh Gen Edgerson and and uh, you know they're jumping out of the gym, Bennett, Bennett, Davidson, you know, guys who probably might not start at a lot of other schools. But yet all those pieces melt together into a national chat at the right time, right place. Yeah, you no questions, and then
you know they got better the year later. And and to me, that's the kind that's the kind of coach Tommy Lloyd isn't. I wish people would realize again, these are the people that were complaining Sean Miller was getting nothing but five stars, couldn't hold them together, couldn't win with them. And now they're you know, wanted them to change his strategy, and now they got Tommy Lloyd who's going out and getting guys that fit what he does.
They're not all five stars, and they're losing their minds when he doesn't get them. Jay maybe they're just complainers. Maybe those guys are just complainers. They can't they can't figure it out. So what are you gonna say, Well, let's complain. I think I'll hate their own lives the therapist, you know, it's it's like, what do you want? Well, you can't make everybody happy. I realized a long time ago you just can't.
And I'm gonna probably take names and whatever, and when the when he's twenty twenty and one, next year, eighteen and two or whatever, calling everybody out, What the hell? What did a few months ago? You were like pooping all over the place, were calling everybody out Hi on the air and on the ball, Hey Jay, um Steve, this is John. I think that's uh one of the big problems with Arizona fans, especially those of us that grew up here, and you know this, Jay, They're
always gonna lose. They're always gonna break our hearts. We never we never win the big one. And it's like I said the other day about you're not a head coach until you are a head coach. You're you're gonna you know, until they stopped breaking our hearts. That's what it's gonna be. And the people are gonna act pessimistic. But see if John, I think this is I think this is the opposite is that they have won a championship.
The basketball team has won a championship, So we have we want ninety seven, ninety seven, twenty five years that five years I know no more. But that's no, that's Arizona done. Stopped on this. Arizona is not that Arizona I know, but that that's the point I'm about to make, is that they win this championship twenty five years ago, and this fan base, because of that, twenty five years later, twenty six years still feels entitled. They feel entitled that you know that they think it should it
should be easy at Arizona, and it's not. And that's that's the problem. It's not. It's not easy anywhere. Like the point you guys have been making about teams with chemistry are getting over all these talented teams done. Let me ask you a quick question. I don't I've never asked your age. Can you say your age or near? Give me a ballpark? Okay? If done? Okay, So in the fifty seven years, maybe forty or whatever, you've been at UFAN, how many times have they not broken
your heart once? It's it's half and half because you're gonna be happause, you know what, on Saturdays in the fall when we go to play Ucla, we are outmanned every single time. But what's our record against Ucla? Those guys fight like wildcats and we're you know, we're always competitive with those guys, even though they always have better football players than we do. So your point is, your point is not all the time has your heart been
broken? Well, not all the time. In basketball, when once we started getting all these five these rent rent of five star guys that we've been getting, I've just completely ignored recruiting and everything else. The part that one thing that I don't like is people whining about us not getting a guy from Cranton. Really, that's a mid major. I don't care how good they were this year. That is a career mid major school, and we shouldn't be we shouldn't be going, oh man, we got that guy from East
Tennessee State, So what well they're talking about good is he? How good is he? If that's where he started out? Yeah, no, I hear you. My point was I would have said, I would have thought you to say every year until ninety seven and every year since because you know, hell no, Because I'll tell you what Steve, in my opinion, eighty eight is still the best team Arizona has ever had. Now we get fighting words. No, I don't disagree. I'm gonna tell you because you
know what ninety seven looks like. It is better, but eighty eight to one that started it. And those guys were like those five glad guys played like one guy. They were. It was one mind between the five of them. No U, no question, no question again. I'll tell you that I was at the airport after the Great Alaska Shootout. I was at I was in Chale Center when they came back after being North Carolina. I was. I mean, so it's I'm but you know what the thing is
what general fans need to think about, and I don't usually do. It's the final four. Getting to the Final four is a pretty big deal. Yeah right, And it's hard. Out of three hundred and some teams, you're the you're one of the last four standing. That is humnkus and it's hard. Look at there's a voice of reason who appreciate reason. I'm thankful that we don't break your heart, and and and and the thing is is up until ninety seven, I think my heart would get broken before that and
not since then. I think I got relaxed with you got one right, Yeah, because I honestly I'm to get a little bit of get off my lawn. I don't want to see my city burn. I don't want anue district to be burned down and then there's no place to go. Right, it's so nice now too, there's that. Let's set the sun link on fire. Hey, don thanks a bunch man, have a great weekend, the may the mayor thanks you. The chief of police station, so does
the chief of the fire department. I mean that's realistic. I mean, come and do my friends did with a Lobo land. They've always had their hearts broken? How many times my heart has been broken? Never? Because I don't if you don't, I get their their love for their team. I get, But come on, there's a point of going too far. Yes, yeah, And you know the funny thing is with me, basketball doesn't break my heart. Football does. Football does, but basketball does not.
And I don't know if it's because I'm you know, so close to it with what I you, but it doesn't and it never has. Um do I get you know, do I get like frustrated or mad or whatever to a certain level football or basketball? Not near as how I get mad at you know, Africa. You know when when there's a last any of you yeah, you know Jets. First year, I wanted to set a car on fire. You know, I was so mad. It's just not your car, not my car, somebody else's car. You know, I
was really upset. Let's take this real quick, because we got about till minute and half. You got about twenty second. Hi, you're on the air. You got thirty Hey, I heard you talking to the caller that was talking. Uh, Colorado won a national championship in the nineties, and football, where are they at? Right? So, in other words, when you guys said we won a championship in nineteen ninety seven, that's just ancient history. I totally agree, totally agree. I've been saying that for
years. But do you agree? But do you agree that that that that has made the fans entitled like they should win one every year because they've won one. No, but look at you card. You can start winning championships in nineteen ninety nine and they got five, but don't tell you. We gotta get off that. We won a championship in nineteen in history. Agree, agree with you. Hey, thanks for the car. We appreciate it. We gotta go listen as always. Yeah, alright, No, he's
right. We've been saying this forever. Yeah, I know enough enough, all right. You know I dated a supermodel once. I'm not entitled. I'm breathing better, although that never really happened. I'm breathing better. Yes, it's Friday, man, I don't want my Friday to be all messed up. Yeah, because you're gonna be solo eating Manuna, Go get big, Jim Man. How good is that? I loved? I love that? Okay, I love that. Cool. All right, let's take our
last break of the hour. We're gonna come back all kinds of breaking news involving some you have a guys and those kinds of things. Um and Dave Hicky joining us at about uh at about four twenties, So stick around for all that. Lots more to come on the show. We'll be right back. He