Steve Rivera and Jacob Salles. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to winning the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jane. Now we have to Adam with breaking news, his eye on the ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. So we got some NBA news. NBA, the NBA, the Raptors for John Tae Porter forever forever for gambling violation. Does this say how old he is? He's like, he's twenty four.
He's twenty four, twenty four years old. Okay, So now he was the guy who was like on a he was a G League guy who was on a contract, right, he was on the G League Raptors. He disclosed confidential information to betters limited his participation in at least one game while he was with the Raptors and bet on NBA games while playing in the G League. Oh he bet too. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. He thought he was. He was basically shaving, you know, uh,
you know his pa. Yeah, his performance. I didn't realize he was gambling too. Holy gosh, he saw that. Charles Barkley said, you know, he was a little disappointed that it was it was a lifetime ban, then it should have been a five year ban, But he understood, you know, he said, I know, I'm talking through both sides, but a five year Evan so he's twenty nine years old, he'd be out of the league's yeah, yeah, nobody's gonna come back and get him
in five years. Anyway. I'm sure that Europe doesn't apply to this. Probably not, So he'll be fine if he decided to go somewhere else, which is probably his next move anyway, given that he was a two day or two way contract guy. Right, Yeah, he wasn't getting much playing time as it is. He's been in and out of the league anyway. Yeah. Some college football news the NCAA approved the two minute warning as well
as helmet communication for this coming season. Yeah, and in more than that, and or somewhere else with your with your information, with the with the the trouble that kids could get into and they won't be suspended. I missed something that what well, you you told me something before the show started about they have they can't suspend somebody. Oh that, yeah, that's it. That's the the n c DOUA a rule that that the Department of Education has
ruled I completely, I forgot. We talked about who are I know the Department of Education is ruled that college athletes can't be suspended while they're being investigated for breaking the law, you know, sexual crimes, you know, those kinds of things, because it violates their due process. That Now, on special circumstances, you can if you feel you have to suspend the person for the safety of others. But you know, an athlete accuses another athlete of
a sexual misconduct or whatever. Until that investigation is completed and there's a determination made, you can't suspen be that athlete. So in other words, let's say our our friend, the quarterback, Jade Delora, that stuff's just coming out right, and he's you know, they're they're investigating whether or not he committed a sexual assault in high school. You can't suspend him until you've done
the investigation and determined whether it's true. So for a guy who's covered cops as you have those investigations, aren't this This is not an hour long CSI no, you know, a month. Well, look how long it took for them to get the ASU thing done. Right my point. So you you this happens in October, right, it may not be solved for another six seven months. Yeah. Well, and and probably the response there is gonna have to be, well, you got to get this investing. You
gotta get this taken care of right now. You know, you got no more taking you know, forever to investigate things. You know that they're not I mean, and it's like, okay, So and it goes to your thing about how much of a big deal is they acue probation. All the coaches are gone that were involved in this, all the people committed the penalties, they've already done the bowl band how much does it mean? Right? So yeah, no, but Steven's I've always wondered why some of this stuff
takes so damn long. Yeah, anyways, right, because there's so many of them out there. Yeah, But for this two minute warning and the helmet communication, the NCAA will allow one player to receive communication from a coach. The players will be identified by a green dot on the back of his helmet, and the communication will be shut off within fifteen seconds remaining on the
play call or when the ball is snap, which is the NFL. I saw somebody tweeted out, okay, you got why don't you just finish one more step and start calling college football the NFL James name change the name to National Football. But I like these changes. I like to, you know, get rid of all this you know, science dealing and putting up curtains on your sideline and and these cards that have all these pictures on them and
the hands signals and all that stuff. Now that means probably one let one, one or two fewer grad assistants or something like that, because you don't need that many guys on the sidelines doing signals. But I do like both of those rules and the two minute warning. It's cool, get up, go to the bathroom, come back, catch into that. Yeah. Some college basketball news, Yukon's standout Stefan Castle is declaring for the NBA draft. So it's three of them now, I think, right, Clinging and Caravan
right as well. Right, so he's projected as the top Yeah, I think he was going to come on anyway. Yeah, Bob, we heard he'll get some guys. Yeah, he's fine, and Duke transfer Mark Mitchell's headed to Missouri. So they've had seven guys a bunch of guys. So so no, you know what, the one thing and then there's only three guys left on the Kentucky roster. Right, well, let me say this
if I could. Arizona's lost four or five whatever. You know. The one thing, and maybe haven't been paid attention, is that there haven't been a lot of complainers. Oh, he hasn't got anybody in the portal yet. But the portal hasn't even started yet, because you don't even know who's in the portal yet. I mean officially, right, not officially, but you do. But some of the better ones could still be out there. Yep. It's it's nuts because and again you know, Arizona fan, just
look, why why are you transferring from Duke? I mean, that's a hell of an education, right, Why are you're transferring from Stanford? They've lost some guys, you know, some of the I mean, some of these are incredible schools, but in a lot of in some of these cases, the guys are getting their degrees. And then let me ask you this too, because this is the question I wasn to asked you about the APR.
We talked about the level yesterday. Okay, so so you you you're a student before before all this, of the five hundred and eighty like you, I'll use that number, five hundred athletes, student athletes come here, How many of them really wanted an education? Well? None of the football or basketball players. Okay, so there's one hundred, one hundred. I'm sorry that that was cheap. Twenty five No, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, uh, I'm gonna say twenty percent. Say good, No,
they really want the education. Oh no, I'm gonna go way higher. Particular because when you're talking about that want or don't that? Do want?
Okay? That do? Oh, you're saying that don't don't. Yeah, maybe maybe it's probably it's probably about I'm gonna say about twenty yeah, twenty percent of football players, okay, and probably I'm gonna go more like sixty or seventy percent of men's basketball players and everybody else went through high school try to get good in sports in order to get a college, and their parents right the college for their parents because their parents are pushing right. Okay.
So now now it's a case where you go to school and then you leave. I thought I thought Lamont's example was perfect. You go to all these schools. How many credits and all this stuff? Do you have to finish the set of scool? Many of you are actually you're going to get a degree? And where are you going to get it from? Right? Because there's a lot of there's a lot of things that go into that.
Because I have a personal experience with it, not my person, my daughter, all right, she wanted she was going on what's called a three to two engineering degree where she went to Scripts College in California for three years, and then she was going to finish it at another engineering college for the last two years. Well, when she decided to come to Arizona for the for the last two years, it became three because a bunch of her classes from
didn't transfer. These guys are transferring school three four times. How many of their credits are moving from place to place? And that's my point? And how many really care about that? Anyway? Exactly? And that's kind of where I was thinking. And you know, you deal with you see I was a transfer to right, Well, you lost some credits, right, a lot enough to keep you another year? Yeah, yeah, right, So it's not easy. And do they care? I don't think they care.
There's a bunch of to me, those players who are doing that are way less about the education and more about being on the field and maybe ni L or whatever. All they want to do is play. And the school is secondary because if you really give a crap about your your education, you're gonna go to a good school. You're gonna stay there and and take advantage of having a scholarship to that. So that was my point. Also some college transfers. Justin Pippen, the son of Bull's legend Scottie Pippen, he's
coming to Michigan from Siena. Oh he's already in college. Okay, but see, okay, there's an example. All right, he might be bettering his Now, whether or not this is really what he's trying to do, he might be bettering his his academic piece of it. Because Michigan is a great school. I can't I can't speak to how good a school he is.
But you say, I've got a degree in Michigan. But he's Scotty Pippen's kids, I'm guessing he's in there for This is the example I used a few months ago, Jay, Because you know this dog, the dogs, the Dogs, the dog truck A B C. D. Dogs right, if you're a seed dog and you have a chance to be an a dog in which I do. But by winning the seat place, trying to get to an a place Michigan, which you have better performance, you have
a better chance of whatever. And and in part of that tweet with frand Or Froschelle yesterday was it's gonna devastate the mid majors because if you're if you're a mid major and you're good, what are you gonna try to do? Go to be the A dog? And that's what they're doing. They're doing, That's what they're all doing. It's killing and even with it, even the A dogs though, are losing, sure a dogs and they're going to
be a dog somewhere else, a dog somewhere. Or if what about the kids that go and don't find the place, and I wonder what that looks like, or if anybody they wind up anywhere? Or are they done? Are they out of college now, they're out doing whatever, which leads to the point of do they really care? Already need to bite him in the butt by doing this? Yeah, I hear you. This was an interesting story. I saw baseball ex Braves player Gary Cooper petitioning for just one day
back in the majors to qualify for a pension. Ooh, he's now sixty seven. He spent forty two days with the Braves in nineteen eighty, but you needed forty three, so he fell one day short of the minimum. Oh so he's petitioning. Yeah, put me on the team for a day, right, That's all he needs is a day, tronn now man, just put him on the roster, le him, go him up in the bullpen, Jim Morris, the rookie. You did what else? Yeah?
Just the NBA playoffs start tomorrow. Well, the last playing games James are tonight the Bulls in Miami and Sacramento in New Orleans, and then officially Saturday marks ten am Orlando and Cleveland, Phoenix and Minnesota on Saturday Philly in New York. Three and the Lakers. And did I hear right that? Okay? The Philadelphi's in the plane the one that they won. They won, so they were in the playing tournament, right, and they're like the second
favorite to win the East because a long time. Yeah. So, and and he's back, yeah back? Oh okay, all right, so did you I think he might have buried the lead the transfer from here, that's going to Mississippi. Oh okay, yeah, let's throw that one out there. Jack Cory something, Cory Krossky, merit, the kid from the kid from from New Mexico, the running back from New Mexico fifteen hundred yards in the last couple of season, got YadA uh had committed to Arizona. He
has now changed his mind. He's going to oh Miss. Now. That comes on the heels of Damian Gonzales, the running back from martinezcuse me, Gonzales, Martinez, Garcia, all the same. You can see that because because I'm one of them, Damian Martinez from Oregon State, who was here the last two days on a on an official visit. So maybe he thinks the running back room might be get a little too crowded. We're speculating on that. But Corey Krossky, mayor is decided not to come to Arizona and
he's going to Old Miss. Interesting stuff. What else did I have? I had a couple of things that I was going through here. Oh, Washington State President Kirk Schultz, who's been trying to guide guide them through all this PAC twelve stuff in the realignment and their school ended up not landing anywhere. He has announced that he's planning to retire. Uh when his contract or not one contract at the mid year June. Was he quoted? He was? He quoted? The reason I asked is if he was, I want
to hear what the quote was and then I'll translate. What do you reason I got to get out of dodge? I don't want this crap either, he said. These last eight years of the president of Washington State University have been some of the best years of my life, my career. I'm inlessly proud of what we've accomplished together to educate students, conduct groundbreaking research, and
improve the lines of Washington need. In the same year spelled like thy four and I feel like I got kicked in the you know what the last two years to our membership in the PAC twelve. Bobby Robbins and I are going fishing. All right? That's not fun? Okay? It would you want to go fishing? Exactly? Okay, let's take our break. We're going to come back. Rick LeRose, former former water polo coach at the University
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water polo coach at Arizona. I didn't know that. I didn't know that we couldn't help ourselves, Rick had we had to bring that well, you know what to have the day's US coach and swimming in the water polo. It was a lot of fun. So what you said it was like nineteen seventy seven. I can't remember the time I did a water polo swimming from seventy three to seventy nine. Wow, Wow, started golf in seventy seven seventy eight. So after you did all three sports at the same time for
a while, Yeah, that's you busy. Just let's let's start here. We'll talk about the golf obviously in a second. How did you get here in the first place. I was teaching high school in southern California and Tuftin High School and Foothill High School, and I was coaching swimming and water polo and baseball and basketball. And I got a chance to come here to be the water polo coach. And Bob Davis was the head swimming coach then, and he said we need to add water polo to make our program a little
better. And I got to come here and the rest is history. And then Daves tracked me and knew need golf coach and you knew I played golf. He said, hey, you want to be the golf coach, and the rest was history. Were you good at golf back then? I was either going to try to turn pro and play golf. Wow, And I said, you know what, there's a lot of guys that are as good as me that aren't making it. I'm going to go to Arizona. That
sounds like a great opportunity. Well, then you became an incredible shortstop for the Tucson Summer League's baseball team, and so you know, I mean, you made history here in this town. Rick, Well, you know, I'll tell you that's because Jay carried it all the time. He hit home runs all the time, put the time his back. Well, yeah, good, let me go there, because I've heard some stories, and I know these stories. You're one of the more competitive guys in this city,
or used to be. At least you used to pitch fast pitch, right, I guess I played. I played fast pitch. We played on the played on the Tucson Rallers, which won the World championship in nineteen seventy six, was the first World championship won by any team in the state of Arizona. And then we played amateurs all after that and got to a bunch of world championships, and then Jay got me into playing baseball. I retired from softball and got me playing baseball. Was he was he? He was really
good a competitive dude. Oh yeah, yeah, we yeah, Well all those guys were, you know, because they were all guys who had been either athletes or coaches at Arizona. So yeah, we that's why we were good, Steve, because everybody was so competitive. Wait a second with that, because you told me about the pro picture that you know, Jason Hockemy, so where did he Where did he bat? You? Coach? Uh? I'm from the when I started out, I was batt in like third,
fourth, fifth. By the time I got retired from baseball, I was probably. Yeah, we all we were all on that ladder, Steve. As as as the years went on, and there was a point where I just didn't bat anymore. It was just I just stopped. So so Rick, uh, you know, look, I know you're gonna you're you're you're a humble guy, and you're gonna you're gonna want to you know,
you're not gonna want to hear that. You know, when I say that what's happening over there at the country club with with the facility and stuff like that, you know, you kind of of the foundation for that. And you really need to say that because you know, three national championships both you know, with the men and the women over there, you built, you built a program that continues to be one of the top programs in the country. When you look back on that, do you, I mean you you
okay with that? You accept that as as sort of a legacy here with Golf of Arizona. Well, like I told everybody, yes, say it took me forty years to get this practice facility finally built and done. Uh. I have a lot of different scenarios. They had thirty three different site scenarios at one time, and we worked on it a long time, and we had a bunch of plans and we had some you know people that Arizona National, Souhilo, La Paloma, Bucsan National. They all helped us over
the years, given us a chance to have a place to play. We never had our own place, and we just felt like Tucson. I felt like Tucson Country Club would be a a great partner for the University of Arizona. It's the only private country club in town. It's gated, you have limited access, and it's safe for our student athletes. And the membership was overwhelming in favor of doing this and the project. It's incredible. I am so proud of what our donors and our people have done here. Yeah,
I know you talked about that. You did list off some of the places you have been in total. How many places did Arizona call home before this? Well, when we started out, there was you know, Tucson Country Club, there was forty nine ers, there was Oral Valley, there was Skyline, and that was about it. Those are the play in Randolph Park. Those are kind of the places we had to call every day to see
if we could get a time and go play. And then La Poloma and Ben the Canyon, the Stone Canyon and Star Pass and they all came on board, so we but we every day we had to call somewhere, Hey, can you guys sit us in today? Can we get some tea times? Wow? And we did that for a long time, but we were pretty successful and now we've got I think the very best practice facility for a
university in the whole country. So tell it give us a little bit some of the attributes of the of the building itself, what they're getting by being out there. You know, state of the art stuff, you know, the locker rooms, all that comes with it. What are some of the things that maybe you drive by the building you don't see that that are in there. Well, there's obviously locker rooms for the men and women teams. There's offices for the men and women coaches. There's a study area and a
meeting area. There's a workout area, there's a putting lab, there's a kitchen, and there's some lounge areas. There's a chance bean's room showing off all the memorabilia of the path. There's a hitting base, we had all the electronics, and then there's the practice facility right behind it, the driving range, the short game area, and the practice putting green for the team. Plus they have access to all the rest of the Tucson Country Cup facilities
and it's incredible. The golf course has been redone. It's a challenge and it's a great challenge for the best female and male players as well. So they've got it all going there. It's it's an old course, rick you know, we know it's been around there for a long time. Uh, And you said that the course has been redone. I'm guessing they had to do some things to probably lengthen it and that kind of stuff. What's some of the work that they had to do there. Well, we did.
We decided we need the greens were well past their life expectancy and we need to redo that, and so we brought in Mike Google is an architect. You give us a design, and Mike Gogelan and our superintendent Kent McCutcheon really did a great job of putting a new design in place. The layout of the course is still pretty similar to what we had, but all the greens are brand new and all the surrounds around the greens are brand new, and
they lengthened quite a bit. But they also had the members in mind. We have tea boxes and teen grounds from four thousand yards all the way back to the back tee, which is well over seventy eight hundred yards, so you can pick your poison. Yeah, yeah, no question. I was talking to the builder, I think his name was jv if if I can remember, greatly six million dollars from his end, How was the total cost well, I haven't got the final number on it, but it was we
probably spent around fourteen million, which was all donated. It was all donated money, and it was by WOD boosters and we raised all that money and that worked out really well. So that was a total cost and it worked out pretty well, to tell you the truth, and we are very happy about it. So did you did? Did they at least give you a room over there or anything like the Rick Loose room or like the Rick LaRose kitchen, you know, something like something like that. Actually they I did
happen to see last night. They put a little uh little sign up that says, uh, the Rick Lorose Coaching Suite. There you go, there you go. I have a little sign anyway, and then and then a picture of you in your baseball uniform. Right, there's no pictures. You know. Jay used to make baseball cardsplo US. That's right. We did get baseball cards. There's a few of those floating around somewhere. Yes,
I forgot about it. Probably not worth much. There were you know, baseball there were no you know, you know what, I'm gonna take mine to to George over there. Sports cards. I can see what I can get for that. So so the course, the course itself rick it's you know, look, all the courses have been built around here, you know, are different from what Tucson Country Club is. It's one of the traditional kind of you know, Tucson National type of course. Is that is how
does that help the program and the players at Arizona? Is that is that more of the type of course that they see out there for tournaments or what's
it? What's it going to be like as far as that goes, well, it's it's a parkland style golf course obviously was built in nineteen forty seven, and we have the big trees and the relatively flat area and parallel fairways in some places, and it gives you a chance to you have to drive the ball well because you drive the ball crooked, you're going to be in the trees and the desert courses, you can start the ball off over over
the desert crooked or faded back into play here. You got to you got to make a pretty good game plan and get the ball and play off the tee and all the greens. The greens are bent greens, so you're going to play on just superb fast vent green surfaces and the sturrounds are all new.
Everything is new, so the golf course next fall, the golf course will really be what it's supposed to look like because with new grafts, we didn't overseed it this year, and our superintendent's got a lot of work to do on getting everything to the playing conditions he would like and we would like that. It's fabulous and I think it's a real asset to our players to be able to play, and of course like that. Yeah, no question.
You're talking to a couple of players yesterday. They're very pleased obviously, and talking to coach. I know. The one question I asked her was what does it mean to recruits? I mean, that's kind of maybe changes the game. Don't you wish you were about twenty years younger? As the coach wish I was twenty years younger, But I'm glad I'm not coaching anymore. College athletics is getting to be on hand. I think we wish you
to talk to you about it is a great recruiting tool. You know, in the in the past, college kids and when we started out, they are really interested in who was coaching, who could get them to the next level and uh, having a good place to play. But then as you know, as as generations change, everybody's looking for bells and whistles and you know, what can you do for me? And uh? And kids are looking for that, they're looking for the blame. They're looking for the great
place to play and to have a place of their own. And we have that now. And Jim and Laura will do a great job recruiting kids to those facilities, and they'll do a good job coaching them too. Well, you talked about the type of game you've got to have in order to you know, be successful on this golf course, So you know, will players come in and have to you know, adapt to that? Uh? You
know is that? What did you find that? Or are these these players just good enough to play however they need to play on a given course. Well, I'll tell you if you're not long, I mean, being long and having some length is really a critical thing. And almost all golf now, if you've got length, you've got an advantage. But this was kind of golf course where you don't have to be super long, but you're going
to need a short game. And even the players that have length, we're going to need a short game because you're not going to hit all the greens all the time, and you better learn to get it up and down because we give us an elevation on some of the greens and you need to hit a variety of shots. And as soon as the course of the chures, it's going to get even more variable than net in no sense, and it's going to be it's going to give our kids a great chance to play,
and players that come in here are going to learn to get better. Yeah, which is always good. We have two minutes. Can you talk about that athlete the way it is today and how happy you are being out. We've had Kendrea, We've had all the Andy Lopez and all these guys who say, I'm glad I'm not doing this anymore. Well, I'm really glad I'm not doing it. I think this nil is. I don't really believe that's sustainable. Yeah, that's not money you need one year. That's money
you need every year. And that's hard to do that. And as far as the transfer portal goes, you've got players and a certain sport will play in three different universities in one calendar year. That's that's ridiculous and to recruit players from somebody else's team, and well, we can't give you more money than the next guy. That's that's gonna be rough. You know, we've seen that a lot, especially with the SEC. You know, they they're
doing pretty well. But you know they're at in Texas and Oklahoma now and those guys think they got money. Now, wait, do they see what Texas is going to bring to the table. So uh and I just heard today that fat X is getting twenty five million to Memphis for their NIL program. It's crazy, it is, yeah, no question, it's certainly out of hand, certainly out of hand. Well, thank you very much. Always appreciated, Rick. So let me know when you need a fourth out
thereon at Tucson Country Club, I'll make myself available. I got to be done by about two o'clock. That's great boy. Of course you'll have to bring Jay along, un it, No, that's me. I'm the one. Steve doesn't golf it, get him out of here. It's just me. So just let me know when you need a fourth. I'll be there. Just Jay, Yeah, just jk. Yeah, guys, thank you so much. It's great talking about it. Thanks about you. Rick, talk to you soon. Ricky. You don't know what you're in for.
Hey, man, I can play well, no something, it's the other stuff. I'm doing forty nine ers tomorrow, so you go. It should be fun. All right, Hey, thanks Rick, appreciate it. Let's go and take our last break. We're gonna come back. We'll take your calls five two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty you know, continuing discussion about nil right another coach. He just says, I'm
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sound like Mickey. It's like it's just getting worse. I don't know what it is. I feel like Peter Rady. You know that reference Peter by Pretty Bunch. Yeah, I do know that Brady. Okay, it was there was an episode when his voice was changing while they were trying to record a song they were doing. They'd got a contract to do a song and his voice is changing pretty much. All right, man, Adam, you know you're you're you might be a little bit of an older soul than most
of our other interns, right, I do. My dad's a little on the older side. So did we ask you about you know, Tina Turner down the summer? You know, all of them are. I was with Kevin when he Oh okay, oh that's why. So yeah, even Kevin, who's pretty an old soul already. Yeah, yeah, okay. We could still take calls on your worst moments. Although what who called it? The woman the moment who called it? Oh yeah, she wanted it. Savannah Bananas. Man, those guys are fun. You know, they just
irreverent. It just crazy. Let me tell you, are you are you paying one hundred and fifty four ticket? No? No, But I go see them. I go watch them for like twenty bucks for a ticket or whatever. You know, I think a lot of people would you know, for fifty sixty bucks. Yeah, but you know it's amazing. But you know, what they've created is incredible. If you ever just go Google or go to YouTube and look up Savannah Bananas and some of the stuff that they
do. It's it's really it's hilarious. Some of it's hilarious. Yeah, and it's good sometimes good baseball. And again, ay you know something just different, right, you know, from from you know, the regular stuff. So it would be fun. Yeah, find an all star team of baseball players here in this town. Yeah, go up against those guys. Yeah, be fun. Yeah, there's some guys play of guys here. Yeah. So anybody want to call and give us your worst moments in terms
of being a fan? What happened? Circumstances all that? Yeah? Well who was it? H It was Sammy right, was talking about It was Sammy talking about that that he thought that it feels like the Cardinals got ripped off in that Super Bowl? Was it Sammy? Well he's a Cardinal guy, Sammy that you know saying that the Cardinals won that Super Bowl? Oh yeah, yeah, someone stepped out or someone step o. There was that catch that I can't remember was the Antonio Holmes? Yeah, I made that
catch with his toes. And that's why you're here. You give us some man. You you've been money today. Okay, you have been money today. I'm gonna give you that said, and they could you give me some money now, Yeah, I'd love I'd love to have somebody. He's just said, I can't wait to get the hell you're really good paid, you're a good guy. Yeah, appreciate the fact that you're here, but that you're you're already gonna leave us? What the hell? Right? That the
running back who's left. I guess a lot of people are talking about that because he would you decided with his with his you and m coach. But he came here, right probably I'll bring him here and now he's gone, I think there might be another player for if I'm making a trade and we're trading, we're trading Damian Martinez for him. Make that trade every day. Well, here was a quote from some from apparently this could be a fake
thing, but it's a quote from Martinez. Arizona definitely set the tone for the rest of my visits. Martinez said, they're definitely a contender or else I wouldn't to waste this visit. But it's more, it's more and better than I expected. Good, all right, But when you're the first guy, yeah, it's it's yeah. Yeah. In recruiting, you want to be the last, the first, right you not even get to be the last gy because you already made a decision right right, So we'll see.
But I'll tell you what, I'm sure I know, no Arizona fan, we're no problem with him coming. So here you go and I a deal right now comes now it comes that part right? How deep the part? Right? And look and you know that he the other schools he's looking at. I'll have the pockets, you know, Miami h I think it was the Mississippi State Tennessee. Tennessee is well, yeah, and you're party fourth
on that list from an an il standpoint. But on the other hand, where are you on the list in terms of how much help you're you going to get to get to the NFL and all those right things? Right?
So, I don't know, you know, uh, look the fact that Arizona's even getting a look at that guy again, when you think back to what this program was three years ago, I think that's a pretty good, pretty good statement about We'll always have to give Jetfish credit for doing that, you know, for put putting Arizona on that level before he bolted for the door. So so you you what are you worry? No, you weren't Nikeys today no, what do you were just I don't even know what this
is. Don't tell me smart schedules, that's all you are, old man, you were Nikes. I'm worrying Chuck Taylor's But the reason I go here is because did you see that Nike's gonna lay off seven hundred and twenty people from the headquarters. I'm sure you've been there right after they gave Caitlyn twenty million dollars where you were going to? Sorry, the problem with you? You and I think they like you don't even say that. You don't even
say but yeah, they're giving her twenty million dollars. Hey, sorry, guys, I gotta go. Yeah, well, they're giving her twenty million dollars because they laid those people out. Okay, we needed clear twenty twenty million dollars off of our salary. So see, you wouldn't want to be would you be pissed? Of course you would. Of course I would be.
Course, of course you would be. Well. And that's why you know, that's why you know, even even at a place like Arizona, you know, every time a coach gets hired and they talk about how much money they coach to get, regardless of where that money is coming from. People get passed. Yeah, right, sure, you know. And and again you know, there was a the the faculty organization whatever it is, put out a put out a statement saying that the athletic department should lay off
twenty percent of its staff. Really, you know, and and I remember, you know, look, you know my son who's a university employee no longer, even if in athletics. And we said, I just don't understand why one athletic, why one U of A employee would wish that another U of a employee got laid off? Why why did they do that? Because it doesn't affect them, but it doesn't affect you, you don't pay attention
to it. Yeah, but but you know it's seriously In fact, I was thinking about this today because we have advertisers, right, we try to get them and and some of them are affected by this donor stuff. Right, but you know, the sorry I'm giving to the U of A. I would like to help you, but but right, you know, it's a trickle down thing. It is. It is a trickle down thing. And look, you know, well it just it just matches what we're seeing.
What happened in Nike is matches what we're seeing at the college level. It's like, you're spending all this money, Well, where's the money coming from? Well, apparently a Nike you know, you know they're gonna hand somebody twenty million dollars. And you can talk about different budgets and stuff like that, but you know, when you're talking about a company like Nike,
all the money comes from one place. You're talking about a U of A. You know, you've got donor money, you got research money, you got you know, all these different pots of pots of money and one doesn't affect the other, but in the end they do affect each other. The conversation, uh, we had with John Wilner about how much value, for instance, athletics brings to the U of A. You know, are is
you OVA gating more students because the basketball program is really good? Which people you know in the past, you know, there's been proof that that it does or uh, you know, I mean, I don't know if you heard Steven. You know, the conversation were had I was having with Johnya and Steve was that, you know, why why is it considered such a thing if a if a campus is helping its a program when you know, Okay, there they are getting something in return to getting visibility or variety.
You talked are you talking about it? And we talked about this in the front ports of the University of the Athletic Department, Right, no, no question. And it gets you more enrollment. I mean sure the ninety seventeen
probably got a lot of enrollment. I mean there were, it certainly got remember a fairy called I mean there were you know, there were uh you know stories done about how much, how many, how much applications to the u of A increased during that time, right, you know, so there's no doubt that they get that there is a benefit there for that, right,
no question. In fact, yesterday at the Riven Cutting, the fact that Lauro's talked about the or I think I think it might have been Gene talking about the money of they raised was all it was all gifts, right, gifted because given this current situation of of the of the deficit. Yeah, and then and for some reason, there are people out there, and you know, I'm not not to have to beat up on the you know, some of the non sports faculty people that you've either saying, well,
if you can give that to athletics. Why can't you give that to research because we're out there finding cures for cancer. Sure, because they don't want to. Yeah, that's what's important to them. That's what's important to that, Yeah, without question. And that's the and that's the problem because when you think about the world, the situation where everybody needs the homeless and all this stuff, and and and people are spending millions upon menials on the campaign,
the campaign, just for the campaign. Yeah, and where that money could go if it were not the campaign, and to give it to people to elect somebody's gonna go out there and screw it up anyway. Statements Jay send letters to Ja it's goodsols with an h No. But if it's my money, don't tell me how to spend my money, right, I get to spend it however I want exactly exactly anyway, all right, So we
went down the rabbit hole there. No, But but it's all kind of related to That's why the Nike team I brought up, right, because it's it's affecting everybody. Yeah, even if it's a twenty million dollar contract where a shoe did you see the pictures of the shoes. No, there's pictures. They're actually pretty cool though. Yeah it's a you know, it's funny. It's a woman. It's a woman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's funny though because you don't you wonder how many when do they run out
of designs for stuff like that? Right? But it's another kind of a unique design to the shoe. Uh and uh, you know, and somebody's gonna go out there and pay one hundred and fifty bucks for that shoe right now. And now you were really you know, the shoe deals and the shoe designs have been really limited to male athletes. Now you got a you know, a female athlete who's got her own shoe that you know, the fourteen year old girl who playing basketball at you know it's Worrow High School or
whatever is going to want the shoe. Just goes to show how impactful she is, right, she's going to save this here so far? Yeah, well she certainly advancing the sport sure, and that you know good, you know, good for her. And that's the question. Will it be sustained? Yeah? Will it be system? I think it will be, you know from Juju right, because there's more coming up Juju Jaw Watkins page page Beckers that you know more coming up, you know, because you guys,
what's you already hear talking about it then? But because of what happened with Kaitlyn Clark this year, now the spotlight moves over to you know, Paige Beckers, who's going to be, you know, a twelfth year senior, and she'll be you know, it'll be on her. Juju Watkins will get some of that. But you know, you feel like because she's older, has been around the longer she's at Yukon, right, that that you're gonna see, uh, you know, Paige Beckers sort of become the next Kaitlin
Clark when it comes to visibility. And but but isn't sustainable again because you have different stars, you have different stars different to the things, right. Yeah, well, Kaylyn Clark was so extraordinary as a player though she was she was friend. Yeah, well the skill is well, even though I don't want the NBA, and you do you want the NBA, who's the best player in the league probably, and then debate between Luke or Giannis?
Okay, so what does Steph Curry land on this list? I think he's fading just a tiny bit six to eight range Okay, Okay, and to me, to me, because I know I've seen him forever, I would still go with him. Yeah, he's still you feel like he's the most entertaining, right, right, that's right. And then I mean, is good not great, but he's just a fat guy running up and down in
fact effect, but he's what He's won a championship. But when you talk about just pure entertainment and fun to watch, I'm still in the steff in the in the Steffand and that's why I asked the question. And and you're probably right. Eight that sounds good to me, sounds about right to me. But to me, I'm gonna go watch stefph Yeah. But and when you go back to it, when you think about Jordan, right, you
think about Doctor J. The things that they did interest incredible. You know, Jokic is a great player, you know, makes his team better. You want a championship, may win a bunch more, and so you know that's ultimately the goal. When you're talking about just entertainment value, you know you got to go to guys like Kobe, guys like Shack, guys like you know, Steph Curry, guys like you know, Doctor J. When you go back Larry Bird even just got yeah that that they had there was
an entertainment value to what to what they were doing. And that's what she provides. And that's what she does when she shoots from the logo, right uh and and you know it makes those shots. But you know, and and the Juju Watkins I think is more in that area as a player than say Page Becker's is just a really good player who can you know, you know, who can hit the three makes her team really better. But Taylor and Clark was extraordinary of those skills things that she did, very entertaining,
very fun to watch. In fact, hanging out with a bunch of old dudes on Tuesdays and they were already talking about it. I'm taking these old dudes are watching the women they never wanted to. Well, you're gonna see when when the when the w NBA season gets going, how much the you know, the viewership increases. Well. In fact, I think I thought this morning they did a feature on her real quick on today's show. Orlando was already moving. I think it's Ronando moving from the four thousands arena to
sixteen, eighteen thousand, whatever. It is just for this for those games yeah, yeah, incredible because they know what the impacts do, of course, and it will be and she'll be on her games, will be on TV. I think all but two. I think yeah, I think that's what it hurt. Yeah, good for them, Good for good for them. That's great, that's great. All right? Cool? Uh Steve, nice week, We were here all week. Holy cow, when does that happen? All right? Hey, Adam, thanks a bunch, nice job
today. Do appreciate it. We'll be back on Monday, believe it or not. All right, so thanks everybody, have a great weekend, and we will see on Monday.