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Welcome to Eye On Horror, the official podcast of iHorror.com. This is episode 123. Otherwise known as season seven, Episode Four. I am your host James Jay Edwards and with me as always is your other host Jacob Davison, how you doing, Jacob?

I'm doing alright, just recovering from a midnight movie hangover, that the St. Patrick's Day because I was out late last night at the midnight show of Leprechaun over at the New Beverly, the original, the OG with Warwick Davis. I'll get into it more once we get to the main show.

We were recording this on St. Patrick's Day. And I don't see any of us wearing greens so pinch pan. I'm wearing

green. Oh, I'm gonna virtually pinch you both. Also

with us, as always is your other other host Jon Correia How you doing Correia are

doing fantastic. Happy St. Patrick Swayze Day, everybody. We're gonna we're gonna I'm gonna pop on Swayze Dancing. When, When I'm making food a little later, if y'all don't know, Swayze Dancing, it was a dancing VHS tape that Patrick Swayze's mom made and host and he's one of the dancers to help you learn the Swayze Dancing. It's, it's very wholesome.

We there's actually kind of a lot of cool horror thats come out since last time we talked but um, let's let's go first to Imaginary have either you guys seen imaginary?

No, I haven't gotten to that one. Imaginary is.

It's it's better than Night Swim. But it's still typical Blumhouse it's basically this woman moves back into her child at home with her adult family, her husband and two stepdaughters and one of the stepdaughters finds a teddy bear in the basement and has like an imaginary friend named Chauncey. And it turns out this is the same imaginary friend that the woman had when she was a kid. So of course, there's trouble afoot

Yeah, I did like the preview picture of the bear in you know, like, monster mode. That did look kind of cool. Yeah,

the the bear in Monster mode, that's, uh, that picture is a little bit of a spoiler because it doesn't really get to that mode until they go into like, the further but you know, saying it goes into further as a spoiler as well. But yeah, it's a it's a it's a fun little, you know, haunted toy movie, I guess. But. But again, you know, it's not

Ah, yeah, that was good. Have either.

Did you see love lies bleeding Correia? No.

Like, I don't like I'm trying to get that money, guys.

Oh, my God. Love Lies Bleeding. You did see it Jacob?

Yeah, I was at the I was at the premiere, or I love it. the la premiere with Kristen Stewart, Katie O'Brien and Rose Glass. And yeah, no, I thought it was an amazing movie. Like it Yeah, they dry it. It's it kind of does have some something It's was kind of a NEO Noir. It was a dark romance. It was kind of a crime caper. Ya know, it's just such a amazing movie. And also in common with Drive-Away Dolls but it um oh yeah, no, it's big year for lesbian crime movies between that and

much darker. This is Rose glass who did Saint Maud. This is much less of just a pure horror movie than Saint Maud This is almost like, like a Coen Brothers Tarantino kind of thing. And it takes place in the 80s which it is the only thing that makes it and I liked this it didn't completely lead into the 80s as much as it could

But then and then when it gets serious, he braids it.

And then Dave Franco has this rat tail is Oh, I got the hair

and the pornstache Yeah.

But it is it's more of like a like you said it's a NEO Noir. And it's and it's like a revenge thriller. But um oh my god, it's so good. And the thing is, it's funny because it kind of it I mean, it explores like domestic violence and steroid abuse like these serious issues, but it's always got kind of this dark humor to it. And, and Jenna Malone and Kristen Stewart play

Yeah, you know if you're a case do fan this one's for you. And she makes a great pair with the extremely ripped and actually ripped Katie O'Brien. First

of all, what makes you think this isn't like my most anticipated film of the year? Just because I haven't seen it yet. That's not due to lack of wanting I mean, first of all, give me all the like, aggressive and lesbian action crime movies. This is we're living in a renaissance between Bottoms this and Drive-Away Dolls. It's what a great what a great age to live in. And yeah, it's literally just like I physically haven't left this chair in like a week. So I will be seeing it. I trust me. It's

Yeah, one of my favorite reviews was from a friend saying that Love Lies Bleeding is the kind of movie the characters from Bottoms would be obsessed with.

So that's a great review. That's a great review. Man. As

for me, I've managed to see some premiere horror movies in the last week. I think most prominently. I got to go to the Alamo pre screening for Late Night with the Devil with David Dastmalchian. Ooh,

out. Yeah. But did it live up to the hype?

Is that the talk show?

Yeah, that's a talk show one. Yeah. So basically, it's about this kind of lost in fictional late night talk show from the 70s called Night Owls. And David Dastmalchian, plays the host and he's dealing with a ratings war with the Tonight Show and he's, and he's trying to think of ways

it like? Is it presented like like a found VHS tape? Yeah,

it's kind of a mockumentary found footage, like the impetuses that it's like the last master tape that was dug

the master tape. I was wondering if they up. Okay, did fake commercials, like WNUF? No,

no, they didn't do commercials. Although the other the interesting thing is, is that you know, they have the stuff on the main show, but also they show this kind of behind the scenes footage during the making of the show, you know, in between in between the segments, so you kind of see them, people acting on and off camera. And, you know this I really hope that this boosts David Dastmalchian because he really does have leading man energy and like he's very charismatic in this as the

it when they when it was first announced, I think they released a poster or something. I was it just felt like, this is the perfect showcase for David Dastmalchian. And like that dude has been like, needing, like a vehicle to like truly show off because he always shines and everything he does. So that's very, that's very awesome to have something that like, like, gives him that opportunity. I'm excited for that one too. Yeah, I

am too. I'm, I'm a sucker for, like, lost media movies like that, you know, like, you know, Ghostwatch kind of, you know, you know, found footage kind of stuff. So and especially if it's done creatively, which it sounds like this. This isn't just and two years later, we found on tape. You know,

it's a lot deeper than that. Yeah, no,

I'm, I'm excited for this one.

And on my on my business trip, I read a lot of that Satanic Panic book. Dude, it's crazy. And they have a whole segment about Giraldo Rivera and like his say, his Satanic Panic special and all that stuff. So I'm like, I'm like ready to go in there. Not nitpick but I love to. I love to read stuff like that. It's a really great book. And that opening essay about Michelle Remembers and regression therapy

anyway, ya know, just it does play a bit into the Satanic Panic in the late 70s. So it it I mean, it's it's draws from a lot of culture and horror and stuff at that time because you know, it's a period film, but ya know, is solidly made, I would recommend it very

excited. Do we know if it's going to like Shudder or is

it will be a shutter release. They did the pre screening last week. And then it's getting a run at Alamo starting? Thursday.

Thursday. Hell yeah. Well, so it'll be out when this episode comes out. So definitely go check it out. Yeah, it's getting rave reviews right now.

Hell yeah. Either way. It's out there. And yeah, you know, definitely go in as blind as possible. It's very surprising.

Yeah, I haven't been able to go out to theaters as we're showing so far right now with this episode. But I did finally get to watch my 4K of Hackers and let me tell you a shout factory did an amazing job with that transfer. packers has never looked and sounded so good. And what a beautiful film that cuz I had to show Lindsay because I've been shouting hack the world at her anytime computer comes up for years now.

you bring your rollerblades I literally go no where without them

I mean Fisher Stevens is is fucking incredible as The Plague what a great villain What Why are villains so serious these days? Like I mean like he was serious he was very serious about what he was doing or too series about what he was doing because it was a ridiculous being but like I think with this viewing the the biggest shocker to me was is Ko hurt cool cohort to Fisher Stevens was Alberta Watson in it

premiere I went to I wanted to discuss have either of you've you've seen the movie, Lake Michigan Monster.

But you've already got my attention being the big cryptid fan. Then I have, yeah,

well, I mean that well, that was an event. This is the thing. It was the previous movie to the movie I wanted to bring up called Hundreds of Beavers

I have heard of this

Please tell me that the title is not a metaphor.

No, no, it is literally about Hundreds of Beavers. Yeah. It's so basically yeah, like Michigan Monster was kind of like throwback comedy movie because it is about this sea captain trying to kill the Lake Monster of Lake Michigan. Even has a sea shanty, and those same filmmakers, Mike Cheslik and Ryland Brickson Cole Tews. They made this movie over the last few years it like it actually took them over four years. It's called Hundreds of Beavers. It takes place in the 19th century. And it's about

the beavers the bad guys in it?

Yeah, pretty much. And the thing is that it's all for one thing. It's all black and white. It's most it's like a silent movie. Like nobody really talks. And the beavers and raccoons, skunks and other animals are all people in these kind of mascot costumes. So like there's like there's like wrestling moves and beavers getting shot out of cannons or like thrown with catapults. So it's just like beaver carnage

I predict people are going to go to this movie on acid in droves. Yeah, that's

definitely one way to do it. But I mean, I was sober and it's still felt like, I don't know, like I was watching a movie from an alternate universe where silent films never stopped. So it was just kind of like a modern comedy with that kind of old

I hope it gets hundreds of screenings.

We can only hope. Have you guys heard of a movie called Come and See?

Oh, I know that one.

Have you seen it?

Not yet. But I know it's reputation. Yeah,

that's what it has a criterion release. And the last few years. It's kind of like you said, the reputation it's been, it's from I think 87 Maybe 85. But it's from the 80s and it's basically about a kid who he lives in. He's He's Russian. And he kind of joins the resistance to the to the Nazis. And he he's like 14, so he's way too young to be you know, fighting Nazis, but you know, I guess what else do you do when your village is you know, being pillaged? Um, And it's basically about the

that that that cover for the Criterion release is very haunting and has been one where I'd never it's one of those like, like the old video store days where you see a cover and you're like, I want to know more about that. But they didn't you never do so like yeah, I've never known more about that movie outside of its cover. So yeah, very cover

is just is just the kid's face. But he's completely shell shocked, which is kind of how the viewer looks to when you're seeing this stuff. Especially through the lens of this 14 year old kid. You're like, holy crap, you know this kid. He has to grow up fast. Yeah,

I mean, for me the most disturbing horror film that's not even a horror film. It's a it's a war movie. It's still Threads, Threads is fucking Oh, yeah. Yeah, that that that third act,

my most disturbing movie. It's not a horror movie is still Compliance.

Yeah, no, see me. I was gonna say that. That's the one that did for me that that movie fucked me up.

It's it's just so and it only becomes a horror movie. When you realize it's real. You know that this this shit really happened. And if you watch there, I think I brought it up a while ago. There's a documentary on Netflix called Don't Answer the Phone, which talks about the real story. And the real story is pretty close to what happened in compliance. So that makes it even more dirty of a movie.

Although back on Horror And also found footage I also saw a new horror movie for VOD called Frogman Have either of you heard of it? I saw a post. Yeah, I heard about it through the internet grapevine to I don't remember who specifically but ya know, it just sounded interesting. It's basically it has kind of the basic found footage type setup where it's like this guy at at amature filmmaker, when he was a kid, he got footage of a local

Lunch me VHS does such great work. I have a few of their releases including We're All Going to the World's Fair. Oh yeah. Heavy Metal Parking Lot. That VHS tape is so good.

Only way to own Heavy Metal Parking Lot.

I got the blu ray too, but you know gotta cover my bases same

Exactly. And also Strawberry Mansion. I'm still surprised that hasn't gotten a release. I think it's a music box selection. A distributed title. That's a that's one that Dan Deacon scored, which is an amazing score, of course. I mean, it's Dan Deacon. about it. I

really got to check it out.

That one's fantastic. It's it's on VOD, so you can get it on like, Vudu and stuff, but like yeah, for some reason like, as far as physical media I can only find that on that lunchmeat VHS so fingers crossed someday we'll see.

Alright frogmen was good time if you're still down for more found footage,

it checks off two of the boxes for me I found footage and cryptids so yeah, man got both

in spades. Oh, also I got to see an early

the poster for it which looks Oh yeah, it's bad. Amazing.

God Yeti. Yeah to have the Yeti because

didn't they do like a lot of like, the effects work already and like yeah, it was it was like it was like something where it's like all the stop motion and stuff was like mostly done and that but they ran out of funding or something like Exactly,

yes. Yeah, they filmed the mostly in the early 90s. And yeah, they and yeah, it was just unfinished for a long time and they finally I think they did an Indiegogo or Kickstarter to get the funding to properly finish it. And yeah, it's a lot of fun is very much a Harryhausen throwback because it's like the Sherpas kill Yeti.

sounds like a fun Jules Verne esque adventure.

Oh, without a doubt. And also Korea, I think you'll appreciate it because there there's a lot of Star Trek references like at one point a character even yells Star Trek while pointing out at a spaceship.

Oh, wait, how did you know I was in the Star Trek.

Just a guess. I

suppose I just give off that vibe. But just give off Trekkie vibes. Yes. He says after spending eight hours watching three different Star Trek shows the day prior. I

mean, you just you just dropped Voyager in our last conversation. Yeah, yeah,

I'm in the middle of watching Voyager and Discovery catching up before the final season. So it's, it's a lot

before we move to our topic, let's let's discuss the Oscars which happened last weekend. First of all, we have Oscar winner Godzilla Minus One. Yay, which

roll that was a tough fight man. I mean, it didn't get as wide of a release and it was up against a Studio jibley and spider man and it's

it's a way it's a much simpler form of animation. It's like 2d You know 80s animation. So yeah, the Robot Dreams people are the only ones who supplied a customized little graphic to show on the on the screen of nominees behind them. The robot and the dog are wearing tuxes with with bow ties and stuff in in their little their little panel. I was like, Oh man, they should give it to me just for that.

Which by the way, what was what? Like I didn't watch I don't watch the Oscars I just get the news as they come in and stuff but like what was there they had a bit with the dog clapping know

that well the dog from and there's a whole story behind that. But um, there's a dog in Anatomy of a Fall which was up for it actually one Best Original Screenplay, but it was For a bunch of awards, the director was up for Director and it was up for Best Picture and the actress Sandra Haller, who was also in Zone of Interest. She was up for Best Actress, but the dog Messy. He went to one of the Oscar luncheons and he's like a really cute, you know,

it was fake paws because I saw a picture of a guy like crouch below and you're getting to fake paws on sticks to do that. Yeah, but I just saw the clip where they're like cutting two people clapping and also you just see like Ryan Gosling just being like, What the fuck? Like the dive face of the dog lap and

Ryan Gosling stole the whole thing if you haven't seen it, just look up him doing I am Ken because it that musical performance is amazing. I mean, it it. There are other cans from Barbie there and it's a whole production number. And about halfway through. And this isn't really a spoiler because he played on the track but slash and Wolfgang Van Halen pop out and they're like, you know, guitar Doolin and it

and it was a they based it off of Gentlemen

he was going through the audience, passing Prefer Blondes, the Marilyn Monroe performance to like even the backup dancers in the Kens were all dressed up like there the mic to people. So like, you know, Emma Stone and Greta was. And Ryan Gosling had like a gender flipped pink suit with the gloves to like, Yeah, as soon as he came out, I was like, Are they do Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and then sure enough, the backup dancers came out with the ties. I was like, ah, that's

Wait, was that John Cena? Because all I saw was a floating envelope. You can't see. And since I can't see him, you can't see me. I'm waving my hand. I'm doing John Cena.

One of my favorites was Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. Calling out Michael Keaton is Batman since they were both Batman villains.

Yep. And he was there. Michael Keaton was there too.

He's in the audience. And he was like, Come get it.

Yeah, first of all that this how my evening when I was working on the podcast, getting the episode prepped and all that. And I saw Godzilla one. Godzilla minus one. One.

That was the award. They gave away the twins reunion. But

But all I saw was that it was I was like, Oh, that's really cool. And then I saw Oh, Schwarzenegger parents said today. And so I was like, You got to hear Schwarzenegger say Godzilla. It's hilarious. I'm like, That's great weight data to veto section. But there was a twitch where you did it. And so like, I slowly was getting all the information. And then someone's like, yeah, they made a Batman reference, because they were both villains. And

was it was the memorial was the worst that I can remember seeing. Because not only did they of course, they're always going to forget people. And you can kind of understand that. But the thing is, you couldn't even read the people because they were showing the dancers and the singers the whole time and, and they put the slides of the people up in the back. And it was only like the biggest ones where they leave on there for the longest time that

three reasons why. Last episode, we talked about the Razzies, which are a bunch of internet trolls. And while I was in Breckenridge, Colorado, I got to meet the giant wooden troll. And also, I did want to give Jay an opportunity to talk about the Trolls trilogy and how much he loved it. But also, trolls fucking rule. I mean, just a Trolls are one of those things where like, it seems like almost every culture has, like, their

scariest one for me. And I know that you're you're planning on talking about this too. So we'll just rip that band aid off. Is the Troll from Troll the Netflix movie that just a couple years old, which directed by the awesomely named roar? earthdog Yes. That's the most awesome name for the movies he makes because he also makes you know, The Wave and The Quake. You know those Norwegian disaster movies?

Oh, I know them. Well. You guys know I love those movies.

But yeah, that troll is that because he's like a Kaiju kind of troll. And he's kind of, I guess he's kind of made of stone. He's made of like natural material. You know, there's part of the movie where I think she goes into the footprint. She's, there's no organic material here. It's all dirt and rock. You know, they can't get basically any troll DNA out of one of the footprints. But um, yeah, he's like this giant rock kaiju who just destroys the shit out of Oslo.

Oh, man, that movie fucking rules because it really did take like, the sensibilities of like these the natural disaster movies that they would make like The Wave, The Quake, and The Burning Sea? And when? How do we make a Kaiju film like this? And so it harkens a lot back to Godzilla when Godzilla is treated like a natural disaster. Only this time it's it's a massive, massive troll and I can't wait for the sequel. Oh, man. Obviously it was a guy that

now that the sequel is in production, though, right?

I mean, it is. I'm so excited. Yeah, I can't wait. Did you guys know that was one of my top films with that year. Yeah.

Yeah, I really got to watch that. It's still on my to do list. Oh,

dude, you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. Jacob. Jacob, what was your scariest troll? Well,

again, this is more a matter of personal opinion. But I was really creeped out by the Troll from the original Empire pictures. Troll movie by John Karl beekler Torok

that was Sonny Bono. And it has a character named Harry Potter in it. And

Harry Potter Jr. Yes. Harry Potter senior played by Michael Moriarty from Q the Winged Serpent. Yeah, no, it's weird movie. But ya know, this is something really creepy about that troll in particular is especially because like he's, you know, like, turns people into lay elf people and nimcet Yeah, turns Julia Louis Dreyfus into a forest name. Which she, which she played the footage of on her last appearance on Saturday Night Live. So it was

It's worth noting that this movie is from I think it's 1986 86 Yeah, when they have a character named Harry Potter JK Rowling ripping them off. Oh,

oh, sweetie you don't want to go down that hole because there's a Neil Gaiman story that you look at the cover and you're like yeah, anyway. But no, I mean what? Yeah, that it's such a fun movie and that weird that weird song they do and it's like mushroom singing and stuff man

and the little goblins and trolls and stuff like that.

Oh man. Yeah, no, the original Troll is really incredible and it's sequel, which we can't really talk that much about because even though it's called troll two it's not a single fucking troll in the movie. Yeah, because

it's Nilbog it's goblin spelled backwards this is their kingdom title

only but still one of the one of the all time greats

Troll 2 actually holds the title they say of the best worst movie and I think there's was it a behind the scenes or

was that documentary? Yeah. Michael Stephenson, the guy who was it who played the kid in Troll 2 made a documentary years later about kind of the cult effect it had and I'm actually in that documentary because they did a segment at a screening of Troll 2 at the Brattle Theatre in Boston in like 2006 or something and this was when Troll 2 fever was at an all time high or maybe you've observed but anyway yeah, so I so you can see me in the audience when they're talking to

Between this and your appearance on Nick Arcade? We've got some

No, we're not doing this again because it appears when we had a previous recording I think it was off recording Jacob said that he appeared on Nick Arcade at which of Nick Arcade is on Paramount plus and I wasted an entire fucking morning Oh my combing through the episodes trying to find young Jacob in it and I have still yet to find him. So I'm putting out a wanted if you can find Jacob in an episode of Nick Arcade or Best Worst Movie, I will I will send yourself that cool.

I actually went while you were doing that Correia I went to see any similar shows just in case he had the show name. You know, maybe it wasn't Nick Arcade? It might have been one of those other game shows about arcade games and I couldn't find anything there either. So yeah, we're still on the hunt. Yeah, I

gotta I gotta ask my folks because again, you gotta keep in mind I was like not even 10 years old when when I did that. So I need like a reminder like maybe my folks will remember better but I am in Best Worst Movie I mean, like only for like a scene so it's not even that prominent but you know it I am in there. Although if you want to see me really in the background is something you can see me in the background for

We're not saying Jacob's lie. We're not accusing. Oh, we're just saying he's

there. We just we think the details are missing. And that's what we're trying to piece together are it's a minute sleuthing,

these these rabbit holes are dangerous, and I have too much stuff to do.

I didn't force your hand. I didn't force your hand.

But they but yeah, instilled the need instilled the want. And so, and thank you for reminding me because I do need to continue. Nick arcade.

Oh, boy. Anywho

you're binging Nick Arcade.

trolls, TROLLS that are in movies? Yeah.

Yeah, well, it's not exactly a troll. But again, it's St. Patrick's Day. And I was at the midnight show. So I would I would like to mention Leprechaun. That that was a lot of fun. And, you know this. I mean, it's again, not exactly a troll, but I mean, it's, you know, an evil leprechaun, so I feel like it kind of fits that mold.

I'm gonna fight you on that. It doesn't count. That's a leprechaun. That's different. That's I know, I know. Because

leprechauns are imaginary. And Trolls are real that would say that.

That is a big difference right there.

And the proof is in the very real documentary called Troll Hunter. All right.

Very real documentary. Yes, that is not gonna put anything on Netflix. It isn't true, right

Troll Hunter. Which, I mean, I you everyone

well let me ask you guys this. Do you prefer knows that I'm not the biggest fan of found footage films but Troll Hunter from 2010 is what are the best. I remember we showed that at the theater that I was a projectionist, and I sat in the crowd for the first time.

Like we know Jay's answer.

I prefer them little tiny troll size. And not only that, I prefer them animated. And this is what a curry is waiting for. I love the Trolls animated movies. They're based on those troll dolls from like the 80s with the like fucked up hair. But I love those those movies and there's there's nothing horror about them. So I'm not going to spend too much time on him. But if you haven't seen him, I whenever I watch these movies, and it's always around awards, voting time I get

I mean, I haven't seen those movies. But that first one has that one fire song. You know, what is it? The Dance Dance Dance one? That's a that's a that's a banger?

The newest one has inSync Renuion.

I'm Eric Andre. Eric

Andre plays one of Justin Timberlake. his character's name is branch. He it turns out he was in a boy band when he was a baby. And Eric Andre is one of his brothers.

Yeah, see if it was a reunion of the of Josie and the Pussycats? I would I would be more excited or

don't even get me started. Josie and the Pussycats is in my top 10 All time I think I've already covered that. I loved Josie and the Pussycats. But

for me when it comes to trolls I mean my you're talking size wise, I gotta go big. I mean, they don't have to be kaiju size I appreciate it when they are I love it when they are. But I mean the classic Billy. Billy Goat guff type troll under a bridge where they're like these big menacing things, but they're also a little like Billy Goat Gruff like you know you got to go to you. They're a little sassy you know when they're when they're about that size you know you're

venturing into It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia territory with the the date that night man cometh gold at church roll toe Yeah, and Danny DeVito plays the role and he's all you got to pay the troll toll if you want to get this boy's whole well

I'm sorry What do you say? No

it's so boys soul soul that's what I'm saying boys whole

so good. But no I mean Troll Hunter even had a troll under the bridge and it was brilliant because they had like a goat on the bridge to be bait and then like the Troll Hunter comes out in like this like fucking like Knight armor meets Iron Man shoddy put together thing and then he just gets absolutely like just wailed on and thrown around. It's great. But like those those type

Yeah, and played by Friday the 13th 2009 is Derek Mears.

That's right yeah. Oh man it's

one of my favorite parts about I think is it it's either Hatchet 3 or Victor Crowley Kane Hodder gets killed Derek me attached

to three Yeah.

If you know you know. Yeah,

that's great.

Yeah. But ya know, I mean, I I'm always down for more actionized trolls because like in the original Lord of the Rings fellowship of the Rings You know when they find that cave troll?

Oh, of course the cave troll Lord of the Rings. First of all, I, one of the great things about, you know, the Lord of the Rings universe is the stark difference between Hobbit and Lord of the Rings because the Hobbit is a fun fantasy. Not light read, but it's definitely its tone is much more fun, right than Lord of The Lord of the Rings is an epic, but you see the big difference in how they treat trolls because in Lord of the Rings, The Cave troll is menacing. It's huge and

Someday.

No, I won't actually because I've seen the artwork that Guillermo del Toro made when he was developing that fucking movie. His orcs were incredible and insanely detail. Okay, I'm sorry. All right, I'll bring it up. Harry Potter troll. In the first movie, The troll in the bathroom. God that CGI? It was not good for its time and aged even worse. Like that was like Lawnmower Man level almost. Yeah, the PlayStation two version of the troll looked better than it did in that

less said about Harry Potter, the better. Except the Harry Potter junior and senior in Troll.

Bringing it back to Charles band.

That's our that's our preferred trolls. But I also will be remissed if we don't bring up Border. Which Oh, yes.

Now do you consider her a troll?

They are shows they said they're trolls.

They say they're trolls. Okay. Oh, yeah, they're trolls. And it might have gotten lost in the translation for

me. Oh, yeah. And that's and that's again at the the cool thing about with anything that's like made up you can say whatever you want and its real because it's not there's no like true. Like thing like, you know, it's not like fish or you can say oh yeah, now fish fly and breathe there. It's like, well, no, that's not how fish work. But like, when you when you're talking about fantasy stuff. You know, the rules can always be better. You can always have like, do crucifix. Stop this vampire. No,

wait, wait. But we already determined that trolls are real. Oh,

but there's been some history. There's real Charlson, there's fantasy trolls

because of that real documentary troll. Right?

Well, that's that's very specific type of trolls, right. But there's also all these different kinds of ones and I think that's what's so cool about trolls is that you can have like your total control so you can have an even in there you have your Hobbit trolls and then you have your cave trolls. But then you can have something like Border come out where it's another one that's like really steeped in realism, but also is like just a very horny movie.

Trolls. Here they come. Trolls and their back and the Goblet of trolls No. i My top three Trolls, Trolls World Tour and Trolls Band Together.

Alright, you got the full set there. At dammit. Um, for me, I'd have to say Troll Hunter. Charles band Trolls Junko beekler. And Ernest Scared Stupid.

Scared see fit?

Yeah, I mean, I gotta

Yeah. And not to mention, Laika made the incredible Boxtrolls. So there's, there's, uh,

oh, yeah, that was a good one, too. Basically, what

I'm trying to say is trolls rule. Why don't people talk about trolls more often? You know,

I think it's just that the term trolls just been superseded by people acting like assholes on the internet.

I was gonna say trolls rule except for the more modern version of a troll, which is an internet troll.

Yeah, nobody likes internet trolls.

thing. Oh,

actually, that reminds me there was that great episode of What We Do In The Shadows. We're calling Robinson got into a tiff with somebody online and it turned out it was a literal internet troll. Like he goes to fight him and that it turns out it's this giant is trolling and Ali is going to kick his ass. So cool.

What We Do in The SHadows.

Yeah, that would do that. Oh, yeah, they did. Yeah, I think if it was like Colin Robinson went out to Jersey City and yeah, there's this troll who has a cell phone and is trolling people online. But he's a big astral. So when they tried to fight me, he beats the shit out of them.

So good.

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