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Your Pain Had Purpose ft. Jaykay Kenny

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Summary

Hosts Marlon and Duke chat with guest Jaykay Kenny about his journey, from a chance encounter with Drake at an Office Movers premiere to his challenging path in Canadian education. They delve into cultural comparisons between Canada and Nigeria, discuss the intricacies of Toronto's content creator scene, and break down the viral rap beef between Drake and Jon Kabongo. The episode also covers personal stories, relationship dynamics, and insights into content creation, offering a mix of humor, reflection, and industry wisdom.

Episode description

(02:30) How Jaykay met Drake

(19:45) Canada vs Nigeria: Where's it better to live?

(36:45) Michael Jackson impersonators are UNHINGED

(42:00) How did Jaykay get on Office Movers

(51:30) His first viral moment ever

(58:00) Drake vs Jon Kabongo??

(1:23:30) Burna Boy digging himself a grave?

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Transcript

Intro / Opening

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I'm just letting you know. That's what we're doing? I'm shooting! Okay, okay. You've been shooting for weeks. I haven't shot back once. I've been warning you. What? I've been warning you. In five seconds out the gate, you call me a whore? It's up, Curious George, dad. You heard that? It's up. Curious George. Yeah, you modern-day Curious George with that hat. Are you calling a black man a monkey? No, I'm calling you his pops. Interesting.

What was the dad's name? The man in the yellow hat. I don't know. We're back. Yes, sir. Another week. Another class. Who else but us? Just us, man. Come on, dawg. I'm Marlon. I'm Duke. And we're joined by... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. We gotta stop the music, man. We gotta stop. Hold on, man. Let's get serious, man. Hold on. It's real serious. Look how you're sitting, too. Hands crossed.

How Jaykay met Drake

We gotta do this right. We gotta do this right. We gotta be very serious, man. Which one are we doing? What are we doing? This man comes all the way from... This guy is one of the shining breakout stars of office movies. This man has taught you words on TikTok for years. For years. English. Yep. Or maybe not. Who knows? Yeah, nobody knows, really. I don't think he even knows. Ladies and gentlemen, JK is in the...

How you doing, brother? I'm doing well, thank you. I'm shy. You are not shy. Absolutely not. Let's get right to the shits, man. You met Drake, man. What the fuck? What the fuck? You met Drake? It's crazy. Champagne poppy. In the flesh. Champagne poppy. In the flesh. That's the whole story. Because I was there. I saw the miracle happen in real time. I did film it. Exactly. I didn't get any.

Camera credits, but it's cool. It's cool. I mean, that's typical of Nigerians. It's cool. It went viral. That's typical of Nigerians. Millions of people saw it. I ain't getting no credit. It's cool. No big deal. No big deal. Fuck my career, right? I mean, yeah. Fuck me. Could have tagged you in there. Fuck me. Could have tagged the show. It's cool. I'm not African.

I get it. I get it. I get it. And I don't have champagne. And I'm not a poppy. See, all these things. They're all adding on, man. Stacking up. So we're at Office Movers release party, premiere party, right? And we were watching the first two episodes. We did the whole theater thing. We watched it. Everything was cool. Went into the other room. Drake's there all of a sudden.

Crazy. Right? He's just waiting for us, kind of. He was already in the room. Leaning on the table? Yeah. Literally. We walked in there. Everybody walked in there. The DJ's there playing some tunes. They're getting the shrimp and the cocktails and all the things. Started handing around. And Drake is in the room, right? Now, when we first walked in the room, you saw Drake.

You did not? What? So you didn't know he was there at first? At first, I did not know. Then this guy was like, Michael was like, yo, Drake is here, you know? I'm like, yeah. Then I seen, you know, I'm like, oh, shit. but you know like you had security and you know i think it was just a son that spoke to him that was talking there wasn't really security there no those were just his boys those are just his dogs no security there's no security he's just chilling wow

Yeah, there's a couple of people I've talked to. I thought that was security. You know, it happened earlier, but hey, it happened the way it's supposed to happen. Happen the way it's supposed to happen. I was going to the car to go smoke. Okay. And I was going with my girl and JK was outside taking pictures. So I told him, I'm like, yo, I'm going to go downstairs and smoke. He's like, all right, cool, cool, cool. I'm coming through. We go to the elevator.

And he's like, yo, I want to meet Drake, man. I've been saying this for 10 years, man. I got to meet Drake. 10 years. And I'm like, oh, that's light. Bro, when we come back up here, I'll introduce you. That's no problem. That's a bro for him. He knows him really well. Yeah. Keep going. Narratives, guys. Keep going. Just like that. So then now...

I'm like, all right, cool. He's like, yo, I need these washers. I bet. I'm going to meet you. Come meet me downstairs when you're done. We get on the elevator. Wait, before we get on the elevator, my dog, TV Gucci. Pops out. He's standing there at the elevator, right? Say what up. Say what up. Didn't realize you knew who he was.

He starts freaking out. He's like, TV Gucci. Go crazy. Mr. TV Gucci. Then I leave. I go downstairs. Tell me what happened when I left and went down the elevator. Okay. You know, after... after the old when i finished talking with tv gucci right and then you went to the washroom um when you went to the elevator the moment you left to the elevator i think in less than two minutes drake comes out from the washroom and

i just turned around and i was like i said i could not believe my eyes i could not believe it then when i turned around it's not it's draco it's draco then tv gucci was telling him that yo i have been just been you know talking around here it's like yo i said champagne papi hey you know giving him his flowers i say ah everything you have done for canada what you have done for america what you have done for nigeria you know you are a legend you don't even know you know and then

It was working, you know, working to the lobby of Hotel X, right? My brain just clicked that. If I don't record this moment. My dogs, they will not believe that I met Drake, you know. Nobody want to believe. And in Nigeria, we say, if there's no video, there's no evidence. No evidence, you know. So I just said, TV Gucci, please.

Because that's the only person that was there, you know? That's the only person that would ask and be like, yo, please help me record. I was like, TV Gucci, please help me too. And bro, took the phone. And that's when I was like, yo. I said, no, no, no. I said my mom has to see this. So like TV Gucci, please hit me.

Can't say no anymore. Let me record this. He was recording the moment and that's what made me to say, my mama, they pray for you. That's what made me to say, don't drink that. My mom is praying for him. You know, and all of that. You see his security behind. He was looking at me like, you don't get your fucking. wrap it up but he did it because I mean I would assume Drake's been in that situation a lot of times and gave him the head nod like yo goodness

This thing got away from me, bro. But you stood out so much in Office Movers. Yeah, man. There's no way he didn't know who you were. He said it in that moment. We in the same show. Like, I'm on the show with you. And so, like, why was meeting Drake so special for you? And why 10 years did it, like, you were like, yeah, I'm going to meet. drake why what happened that first time when you said that okay you know coming to canada one two when i came to when i came to um toronto

When I moved to Toronto, you know, I would always like, you'll be hearing Drake, normal, you know, and everybody would say, ah, Drake is, you know, he's Toronto legend, he's, you know, he's Prime Minister of Canada. I say one day, ah. i must meet this drink you know i must meet this drink and then when he did that um thing that i sat down on the cn tower views views ah bro me and my boy

We'll drive by his house. That is his house. We'll just drive. We'll just be looking like, ah, I'm on Drake one day. Wait, his house or the CN Tower? No, his house. You know that his house. Yeah. So we'll drive by there. We'll just drive. I mean, one thing about me is I just, I speak, you know, I just put it out, you know, and I believe that one day is going to happen no matter how long it's going to take. And I will be telling my boys, I'll be like, yo, bro, one day to happen.

I don't know how, I don't know when, no. And bro, just all of that happening that day, bro, it made me to believe that, ah, anything can happen. Listen, I've been reading up on quantum physics stuff and... Your brain can't apparently tell the difference between like delusional and not delusional. Oh, yeah. And so they're like, yo, just be delusional. And that things part of quantum physics is like.

things it's kind of like manifestation it's almost like the definition it's a law of attraction it's a law of attraction type of thing like if you have it in your mind essentially speaking to like your thoughts become things become things essentially so if you really think it you can

It's all about your perspective. So can you think money? Can you think money and attract money? I think so. I think so. Yeah, I think it's also to the core feeling towards money, though. If you think of money, you think of anxiety. you're going to be chasing it for a lot of times but also people thinking about it isn't enough like claiming it as if you already have it I think is a part of it and like living the lifestyle that you would be living If you were...

who you want to be. That's what gets a bit dangerous. Why? Because that's where niggas max out credit cards. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm living. Well, that's just irresponsible. Right, right. But I mean, in terms of things that you can control. Yeah, yeah, of course. You should be doing all the things that you aspire, the person you aspire to be. Because a lot of us, we're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be this fit.

superhuman and like I'm gonna go on runs and all this but you don't do it now yeah but you're like when I'm rich I'm gonna do it No, you won't. No, you fucking won't. You're not going to move. You're going to do the same thing you're doing right now. You're not going to do it. You're going to do even less. You're going to get a fatter. So if you're not doing it now, you won't do it then. So do it now so that you can, when you're there.

You know what I mean? You're already fashioning and molding that lifestyle. When did you first come to Canada? 2015. 2015. What season, I think, is an important question too. Winter, summer, fall? Yeah, I always ask that. which season is important to me no which season did you come oh winter winter oh yeah yeah january january

That's crazy. And I went to Manitoba. You're actually a warrior. You're a warrior. That's actually different, bro. It's cold and there's nothing to do. And there's none of us there. And there's meth. I mean, there's different kind of.

Sorry. What? Was that too? How do you know that? It's the hat. How do you know that? It's the hat. It is the hat. It's the hat. It's the hat. It's the hat. It's the hat. It's the hat. It's the manitoba hat. Don't watch any Cassidy that comes out of my mouth. So how long were you in Manitoba for? I was in Manitoba for like three years.

Damn. I'm so sorry. What made you pick Manitoba? You know, Manitoba was relatively cheap, you know. It is very, yeah. At that point, at that time, you know, I was in Brandon, Brandon, Manitoba. I always wonder why people, like, well, I don't wonder, but I kind of wonder why immigrants come here and come to Toronto first. Like, if anything, I would build up in a city like that. Nah, you gotta have confidence.

I mean, I guess you got to be delusional. Exactly. Yeah. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it here. Quantum physics here. 100%. So you touched down in Alberta or Manitoba. Yeah. Same thing to change from. Oh my God. Same thing to me. All the same. Places I don't go to. So Manitoba, what's the plan? We have some beef. We're going to get to it. I go to Manitoba and I was like, you know what? Okay, it's time to continue trying to be a doctor, right? Because I was in medical school.

Is that why you moved here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I moved to Canada now because the system of education in Ukraine was not the best at the time, right? So I was like, let me go to Canada and let me start trying to... stop to do better there was no war then cut it out to do better and um i went to um brandon university brandon university you know doing nothing for like two two three years and that did not work out you know yeah no workouts why

It's the breast. In Manitoba, you have to do pre-nursing before you do nursing. So I had to do pre-nursing. And when I was in pre-nursing, there was this um biology teacher that did not like me you know so that yeah the lady and i have to pass biology so i can get into nursing and she just she just looked me in the eye and she's like

I'm going to make sure you don't get into nothing. I said, what's going on here? Why do you hate me? Why do you know this racism? Only for me to go to the school president. I'm going to report. Can you imagine she's one of the people in the disciplinary committee. Am I going to go and report somebody to themselves? Exactly. I'm like, okay, go on. Well, that's why she abuses her power, right? Because she knows.

That's crazy. That's unfortunate. Why do you think she made it a personal goal of hers to make sure you specifically didn't get in? I think... Were you a class cloud? No, me too. I like looking for trouble. I like looking for trouble, but... The trouble was just, you know, you just poke somebody and you're like, let me just try this lady a little bit. But I think I poked her a little bit and she's like, okay, boy. This reminds me of that Fresh Prince episode where...

Will, this is the teacher, doesn't know he's the teacher yet. Because the guy just walks in with a backpack and he's like, making fun of him. And then the guy goes up, he's like, hello, class. Will's like, oh, shit. Oh, God, yeah, nothing worse than that. So how'd you break the news back home that you're not, you know, you're not continuing to be a doctor? That's a tough call. How'd you do it? Was this a video call or like audio? I think I just, I told my, I first called my mom.

I told my mom, can I call you? She said, ah, my son, talk to me. Can I call you? Can I call you such a nigga? Nigga move. Yeah, yeah. Can I call you? It's like when a girl says, did you just do something? And then you're like, huh? You heard her. Yeah. If you can huh, you can hear. Exactly.

so like i and one thing about nigerians you know if we face message you like yo can i call you we're not just that means there's something some bullshit something serious we want to talk about you know i don't want to ask you for money i want to I want to tell you about our problem. If we just call you immediately, then I will call. What's up, my bro? But if I text you, bro, can I call you?

Are you supposed to do that then, though? No, no, no. It's about your self-esteem. When your man is texting you, bro, can I call you? yo bro his self-esteem is you know so i'm like mom can i can i call you man she's like why you asking me can i call you call me now

So I called my mama and then, you know, I told her what's going on. And she's like, ah. And she's like, ah, you're going to tell your father. I said, maybe you can help me to tell him now. Take him by yourself. You call him and you tell him. you know so i told my pops and they're like ah that's fine you know wow you cannot yeah my pops was i thought he was going to be mad and he would change it for me he was like what are you going to do you cannot kill yourself but

Did you tell him about the racist woman? I told him everything. Oh, I told him everything. I was even crying. I broke down that time. The grown man was crying.

so i i told them all of that and you know i thought they were on my side they're like yeah okay don't worry then they told me to go to college you know go to college and go and do like a business you know so one day i'm doing the business um because you know um business administration business administration i was doing that for like one year and one day my pubs just called me my son you are going to go and try to do nothing again

So you have to enroll back into that notion and try to... I said, what's going on here? You agreed. I thought you would say I should just try to finish school so that you know we can process to work permit and, you know, get... Dad, I told you racism. I don't want to do this. Go back to nursing. I said, but this lady is still there. Don't worry. Go back to nursing, bro. That's how I went back to trying to do nursing again.

I still didn't get in, bro. And it's the same lady that was teaching you again? Oh my God. I still didn't get in. Wait, were you paying money? I paid school fees now, tuition fee now. You paid her again? You paid tuition fee now. You've been to Sean Fino. God damn, nigga. Back then? What were we talking about? Seven Rex? No.

I thought that was like $6,000 or something. Yeah, it was $2,000. Yeah, $2,000. Yeah, $2,000. God damn! Bitch got 12 stacks off you. 12. And you out here doing knock-knock jokes now. Jesus. She's still calling people nigga. You did this. Ah, I hate her. White privilege, where is it? Madam, you got watching this? Just know. Let's all look at our cameras. Just know. I'm coming for you, madam. Just know. You know? I'm bringing Jamaican Uncle Duke. Okay, see?

Canada vs Nigeria: Where's it better to live?

I'm bringing authentic Jamaican man. His real name is Delroy. Delroy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like Claudius. It looks like Zander. His name is Claudius. Who is Claudius? Delroy Claudius. That's what we call him. Who the fuck is Claudius? You are Claudius. Fuck Claudius. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, he can't speak part-time, but he wants to speak part-time. Wait, wait, wait.

That's hilarious. Oh my God. That's the energy you're giving to Uncle Claudius. I don't like that, bro. This guy was surprised I was African. I told him I'm Congolese, you know? And he's like, really? You know what's so funny about him doing the whole nursing thing? is he was just complaining about Canada's, like, healthcare assistance. Yeah, yeah. Wow, look at that, bro. You're part of the problem. Why is it so bad? You go to, you go to MDC now.

Go to emergency and you'll be there for like how many hours? That's a good point. Is it better here or Nigeria? Ah. In total, like lifestyle, lifestyle. Be honest. What are the better parts in Nigeria and what are the better parts in Canada? Just in general. I think in Nigeria it's the community, you know?

party there's life you know you want to enjoy your life yeah yeah you can enjoy your life but then over here this place is you know rigid you know it's quite boring you know why do you say that it's the system now

the system there's a system yeah you have to follow the system in nigeria everybody is you know i hear it's very clicky here yeah whereas is that what you mean by system like people have their groups and they stick to it no not even not necessarily even people have in their group i feel like the system like the country itself the system you have to do this you have to do this you have to do this you have to do this you know if you don't do those things your life we

You know, if your credit is not good, you're in trouble. So it's not so linear in Nigeria. No, no. Nigeria, anything entao, anything entao, hey. Anything entao, hey. If only stop you, he get at you. You hold ground, you look at the police, bros. You just do like this to the bros. You owe the police. You owe the police. Something has to be in your hand. Don't just go and owe the police. There's nothing in your hand. You put something in your hand. Just give the police.

But here, you're locked up. Just automatically. You want to give police. You want to do like this. Yeah, you're done. Imagine a police, Toronto police trying to put you over. And then you're like... I'm officer. Officer. Yeah, you're done. Have you ever had interactions with the police here? Yeah, in Canada. Yes, no. How did that go? Uh-oh.

I think, no, no, no, no, no. It was good. It was good because I recently just got a car that time, right? So it was a new car and I was not driving with any plates. Wait, how new? How long did you have it? So I got the car like today and then the next day I was still driving the car with no plates, right? So I had registration. That's insane.

So the police, she pulls me over and then she... comes to the car she's like do you know your car is um do you know there's no license plate on your car i say yes so ah it's a new car just i just bought the car she's like okay okay let me get your document so i give her the document of the car and then she goes to go and check she comes back she's like um yeah okay it's a new car make sure you get your license plate and get everything sorted i said thank you then i look at a name tag

Hola, Femi. I looked at the lady's name tag was like a Polish name. You know, I used to live in Ukraine. So I was like, are you Eastern European? She's like, how do you know that? I was like, I don't know. Your name's Yakslava. You can do that entirely? Privyat. Kogdalo. so i can't remember her name right now to be honest i can't remember her name but i i quickly gave her a nickname for my name and she's like oh okay

Next thing, me and police, we are just, you know, me and police, we are talking. Next thing, she gives me a business card. She's like, um, a card, right? She's like, if you need anything, if you need any help, or if you get stopped by anything, you know, just let me know. Close. My wallet at home. That business guy. Wow. I've been keeping that business. You never hit her up once? Was she bad?

I'm very fine this thing now. Good milk, huh? Good milk. But I had no follow-up, bro. I had no follow-up. You drank a lot of milk in the Ukraine, didn't you? Definitely, back then, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strong for the bones. Lactos wear. Lactos wear. I don't know the kind of meek you are talking about, but... Yeah, he knows. He was tapped in.

Especially Nigerians. You guys love that. You guys love milk. Whoa. I'm lying? Tell me I'm lying right now, Jackie. Wait, which kind of milk are we talking about today? What kind of milk are we talking about Uncle Delo? Congo versus Nigeria. East European milk. This showdown begins. Only milk. Pick milk. Pick milk. Pick milk and Dano. Dano milk. That's the kind of milk I like.

I don't know which kind of mic you're talking about. I don't know what that is. I mean, I love that for you guys. I don't know, again, I don't know if this is kind of cold. Yeah, let that sink in. I love that for you guys. I have a lot of questions for you. You said...

Earlier, you said you find that it's more clicky over here in terms of Canada. I find that that's actually the case with a lot of Nigerians. Like whenever I go to any kind of like Nigerian, you guys are very like, you know what I mean? I mean, the system is rigid.

Ah, okay. The system. Okay, you don't mean the people. No, not people. Everybody can be, Indians can be cliquey, you know, community. Everybody has community. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like the system in general in Canada is rigid. But Indians more importantly. I shouldn't even say that. I'm running with some brown people this week. It's been a wild week for me, man.

Oh, you didn't hear? I didn't hear about this. Oh my gosh. The Toronto blogs have been just going off on me. I don't know what's going on. What? I don't know what I've done to offend the people. What's been going on in the Indian streets? What did you see? I don't know about Indian streets, but brown streets. Okay, okay, okay. The those kids with the Gerber kids they made there I guess they're on stream

Oh, I see that. I see that. I see that. I see that. I see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that. Yeah, they started talking about me. Who is this uncle? Who is this? No, my favorite part was, who is this new guy? Who is this new guy? New guy. Guys? New guys. I just came out. We're just going to run with that narrative. I mean, this counts it off rip. His career is just getting started. Just getting started. Just getting started. First day of the game. But didn't I say that?

Didn't I say at that podcast, I'm like, if you don't know who I am and you're doing Toronto content, you're already losing. And their comments were just eating them up. I was like, I felt kind of bad. I would hate for that to happen to me as a young creator. But I don't think you would be that young creator. I think there's so much ignorance around that. You know what I mean? Like you're in a space, you don't know who was there before you and even kind of made the way for you to be who you are.

And then you're shitting on them? That's actually crazy. I'm unk, and I also brought race into it for no reason, apparently. Oh, my God, bro. I love when people tell me. What my experience as a black person is. Of course. I love that. This has nothing to do with race. Love that. And then I made a video. I don't know if you saw the video where I was on the treadmill and I was talking about Toronto TikTok. Yeah.

Because I've seen a video of this girl, like, watching, I guess, a live stream on TikTok. Okay. I think we all saw the live stream. The girl... Well, there's been so many. I was referring to, I've been seeing like six or seven over the past week that were like, whoa. So the girl reacted to one where it was like a girl talking about crashing a funeral. Oh, I didn't see that. I said, what are we doing? People are crashing funerals?

We've lost all morals. I'm way out of, I'm too square for this. I don't know what's going on. So I'm on the treadmill. I'm like, let me make a little comedy video about this. It's funny. Right? Like, so I'm like, yo, y'all crashing funeral? Where are the adults? Like, that's all I said, basically. Yeah, yeah. And people were like, oh, the adults are the ones running the stream. Because I guess a lot of these people, there's so many people commented like and.

you could tell they had all watched what I seen, but actually watched the stream, not like the clip of someone watching the stream. Okay. And so they were going off and then they started talking about, um, The guy who runs it is 40. Um, he, he only has mix up in his lives, all types of shit. Right. I, from my algorithm.

MC Crazy Chris. Shout out to MC Crazy Chris. I'm not trying to diss. MC Crazy Chris is the person I see on TikTok Live when I get, be scrolling, right? He's like one of the only Toronto people I see on my Instagram, my TikTok Live. So I thought they were talking about him. The next morning I wake up, my homie DMs me. She's like, not you having this guy crashing out at 10 a.m. I'm like, what are you talking about? I have someone crashing out at 10 a.m.

That's very early. What did I miss? I miss all of this. It was very early. She's like, yeah, he said he's going to dissect you later on today and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, dissect? What's going on? She's like, do you know this guy Icy Springer? I'm like, Icy! Come on. What are we doing here? I like icy shit, right? So then I go on to his page to see what she's talking about. And it's a video of my video.

for like the first half of the video and then the second half is like me paused and he's just talking like you can't see him but he's just talking he's calling me a botty boy all type of things right what the hell and he pulled up well he pulled up a screenshot of a comment That I liked, right? Which, by the way, I like all the comments when I first drop a video. No, I like all the comments without even reading them when I first post. Because in that first hour.

The algorithm wants you to engage with every post. You do get that notification. So I comment or I like on stuff, usually with some emojis or laughing or whatever, right? So I liked the comment. And the girl in the comment said, The guy running the room is 40 and some next shit. She said she was basically dissing him, like hating or whatever. Right. So he put that up and I was like, OK, fair enough. He thought probably by looking at that.

I was dissing him. So I messaged him. I'm like, yo, what's the problem? LOL. He messaged me back. He's like, yo, let me explain. Send your number. So I sent my number. We talked for like five minutes. I'm just like, bro, I wasn't dissing you. I've commented on your shit before. You had to see me comment on your shit multiple times. I love the city, bro. I think your shit's hilarious. I think. And I told him, I'm like.

I'm not opposed to what you do. I used to be the person back in the day that was like, oh, it's toxic ass shit. We don't need this. You can't stop it. So someone's got to do it. And for as far as I'm concerned, Icy's been doing it. since after the pandemic or some shit like that. Like I found out about Icy when him and Snoopy were going back and forth. There was like some battle they had going back and forth. So Icy Springer is like a play on Jerry Springer. Of course.

He's about the mix. His show's about the mix-up. Mr. Drama. So he's like, yo, just jump on stream with me real quick to like just kind of, you know. Clear the air. Let's just have it. Make everything positive. Because I thought you were setting a hate train on me. I'm like, I wasn't even talking about you. But because there's so many people in the comments talking about him.

And because I liked, obviously I liked the comment. I could see why he said that. Right. So I was like, I bet. Get on a stream. And yeah, we just chopped up for like five, six. It wasn't anything long. It wasn't anything crazy. Yeah. And yeah, I was just basically like, yo, you have an opportunity with this platform, bro. Like, I get it. You know, we all love the mix up and the games. And for all the people who are in the comment section on my post where I was talking about this, complaining.

You all watch it. Complaining about what? The people on there, which I understand. Listen, you can think you're above the people that are on these lives who are crashing out of funerals, crashing out of baby daddy's birthdays, whatever. You can think you're better, but you're watching. And this is the thing with Shade Room, with all these things. You're watching. And if he doesn't do it, somebody else is going to do it.

So trying to chastise him for doing it makes zero sense when you could be championing him to use his platform for good. He has an opportunity for people who are on the verge of shooting each other. Let's be very real. A girl pulled out a knife on a nigga on one of his lives or some shit. It was some wild stuff going on. What's going on?

He has an opportunity with that platform. I was telling him on the stream, I'm like, you could, like, squash a lot of this shit that's going on in this city. Like, if you could, let them get out their shit, get their entertainment out, and you know what I mean? They had those kind of episodes where it's like, hey, come on, hug each other.

like you can have them beef it out you know what I mean yell do all the shit that they normally do but at the end kind of try to get a resolution maybe okay okay because more like theater essentially because what these people also want is attention 100%. So you trying to piece it up off top ain't going to get nowhere. And people probably are going to stop watching if we're being very real. They're there for the toxicity. You're right. Because I'm not the type to ever comment on Shade Room.

But there are people that do that. There's always a lot of comments on that. I feel like those kind of people are the same ones that are going to tune in and participate and be active. So it's like, you're right. There's definitely a community for that.

i'm not there for it maybe i'll watch a couple clips funny and i scroll because i don't care for it yeah i would never like subscribe to consistently see it yeah but if it pops up every once in a while and it's some funny shit i'm not above watching it i'll watch it and i will listen I will laugh.

Like, I'm not going to champion it, but I'm also not any better than anybody else watching it. I was in the Rory spaces for four hours. I'm not better than anyone. I think it's just a human thing to be curious about the opposite of what you live.

These people do not live anything close to the life that I live. Yeah. And I think that's interesting. Okay. So it's like you're observing these niggas. I am a big people watching person. I'm a comedian. This is what we do. It is what you guys do. We observe and then we comment. So it's like. I get it.

that in order to comment i gotta observe and like i need to know all types of people so you find yeah so you observe from that perspective i need to know the patterns you're also a comic what do you observe for your comedy life well how would you describe like your comedic style storytelling storytelling yeah storytelling yeah because my life every day is funny bro so i would definitely tell story like when we're coming back from l.a we met one guy um

He's already dying. Your boy's already dying. We're inside the plane. We're inside the plane, right? We're sitting at the back. It's not the back. Best spot to be. No. No. That's not the best spot. No, it's called not smelling doo-doo for the whole fucking place. I'd be doo-dooing on the plane. That's not the best spot because I don't know why they put us out the back. So, man.

that teacher again think about it guys should have rose apart so we we're sitting at the back and you know next thing i hear somebody speaking to the air hostess she's like he's like oh You know, I'm the guy that does the Michael Jackson shit. I'm like, what? Oh, you dance? That's when I heard him, right? No. Is it what I think it is? He's like, oh, I'm the guy that does the Michael Jackson shit. I'm like, what? Okay.

You know, so we're in the plane. We're in the plane. Are you seeing him or are you just hearing him? No, no, no. I'm just hearing. He's right behind us. He's right behind us. I'm the plane. And the plane is... quite empty too you know so like we're just jumping from seat to the seat so that you know just to kill type but now this is where we're sitting at that point in time was the guy was behind right and he's like i'm the one that does

He did it? Hold on! He didn't pause? He just did it? He just went into it? No warning? He's sitting behind. He's sitting behind, right? He's talking to her. She's like, do you want juice? Do you want a drink or anything? And he goes to her. He's like, he's like, replying to her. He's like, you know, I'm the one that do the Michael Jackson stuff, right? I'll take.

Michael Jackson impersonators are UNHINGED

Orange juice. Orange juice. He said orange juice. Orange juice. What the fuck? How did the air hoses react to this? She's like, she's like, okay. I'm catching oranges. And then I turned around. And prior to that, the day before, I'd already gone to this Hollywood walk of fame where I was dancing on Michael Jackson style, right? Yeah. So I turned around. I was like, ah, yo.

You do these things like, yeah, I be in Vegas, you know, I be dancing in Vegas, you know, I do the Mikey Jackson stuff. What did he look like? Did he look like Michael Jackson? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I picture the guy who's going viral right now who like slides to people. Oh my god, that's exactly what I thought of. I thought he was on the plane. Did he slide into the old lady? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, but he went viral, though. You know, there's one video of one guy that stood.

Yes! This is who I thought he was! I was looking at the other guy dancing. Who was it? The guy dancing or the guy standing there that you met? The guy dancing. I was hoping it was the guy standing there. Have you ever seen that video? I don't think so. So there's a Michael Jackson impersonator on the street. Dog, this is Michael Jackson.

There's a Michael Jackson impersonator that has, he's been, he's one of the more popular ones. He's been popular for a few years now, right? Yeah, he got popular during the pandemic, right? He probably looks the closest. To Michael of the Michael Jackson impersonators. But like because he's. He's not there. Okay so he thinks he's really. Dog. There's a Michael Jackson impersonator on the street.

My man walks up with his girlfriend. Yeah. Exactly. And then the other guy that I met was just... Dog. The man's standing there. The man's standing there like, he's my... Michael Jackson like you're doing very well Wow This is sick. I swear to you. This man is sick. I swear to you. He's also the guy, I don't know if you've seen the Michael Jackson that reacted to the trailer. And he was pissed.

That's him. Oh, so this guy's mentally ill. Oh, no, he's not. He's Mikael Jackson. He's Mikael. I need to see this guy. Does he actually look like Michael? Kinda. Yeah, he kinda looks like him. Kinda. And it doesn't look like he... He doesn't, I don't think he turns it off. Yeah. Oh, so yeah, he's really tapped then. Bro, he was literally just walking around and stopped. He gave the guy a hug after the great job. And looked at. That.

You are mentally ill, brother. Like, yo, this guy's doing me really good. Yo, you have to understand. I've never seen someone stand in a way that I interpreted what they felt in that moment. The way you just did it right now, I understand. He stood there like, I'll look at you, young one. Okay. Yeah, look at you, young one. That nigga doing me kind of nice.

that's fucking nuts bro and you know like the crazy thing is the crazy thing is the the one i met right so he's telling us about you know ah yo like he loves dancing all of that you know and i'm like wow because for me i was like damn Like, you're actually dancing. You're doing Michael Jackson dance. Yeah. He said he does that for a living. A living? Like, they know him out there in Vegas.

Like, they know him out there in Vegas. How much do you think he makes? There's no way you can say Michael Jackson is the greatest. He said some days he makes, like, he does not plan to make, he does not put a cap to how much he wants to make. I love that. So he would just put a basket.

And then he would dance. And he would put his whole mind and soul to it, you know. And he said some days he makes like two bands. Some days he makes like, you know. There's a lesson there, man. Yeah. But the highlight of it was just, you know, getting out of the plane. And then just telling each other bye-bye, you know? And he's so tapped into the Michael Jackson. He's so tapped in. Like, walking out of the plane. Bye, guys! You know? He's a method actor.

I'll see you later. This one is more than... Marlon, this is more than mental acting. This one is... It's his life. It's the body there. It's called mental illness. Inside him, you know? Jesus. And then when we just beat him well, we beat him by, he's like, bye guys. I'll see you later. Yeah, that would make you sad. I'd look at him and be sad a bit. Why? He's making money. No, no, no. Oh, yeah. There's a lesson there. You ever been on stage and like, like.

some nights you're like you're not really feeling it and so like you don't go as hard but then and it'll be like say for example it's like a full house but you're just not feeling it that night and you just don't go as hard but then some nights it's like It's not even a full house, but you are feeling it, and you're overcommitted, and you get an even bigger laugh. Bro, I was watching something Eddie Murphy said in his documentary where he's talking about commitment to the role.

Your commitment to the role has to be so like over the top that people just believe you. Like you're just so in it. Just like that guy. Like he's just so in it. You can make two bands a day. Yeah, that's a higher level of professionalism.

That's, you gotta be so in it. People gotta be like, yo, he believes this shit. Apparently people in Vegas, they know him. Like, they know him. Like, they know him. No, that makes sense because we have, we have our guys like Young and Dundas. Yeah, believe. The V for.

How did Jaykay get on Office Movers

Vendetta guy. I think I've ever seen him. You've never seen the guy who dances in the V for Vendetta mask? No. He does break dancing over there. He's been doing it for over 10 years. There's the guy who plays the drums outside of the Blue Jays. games. He just retired this season after like 19 seasons. 19? God damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine they won it too. Oh man. He said he was done at the start of the playoffs. He's like, I'm done after this season.

And they went all the way to game seven of the World Series. We need one more, bro. Gave him every single game he could possibly get left. One more season, bro. Come on. But yeah, no, that's wild. That's wild, man. Speak a little bit more in terms of like how you even got on office movers. Hmm. That was, I went to, okay. My agent.

she had already sent me the audition for the role like and i did the audition like in january because we're going to montreal the morning i did it was the day i was going to montreal and then i quickly did the audition i sent it in

I didn't get no call back. Did you think anything of it at that time? No, I didn't. It's just another audition. So you didn't know about the show or the creators or anything? No, no, no. They don't tell you anything. A lot of auditions, they won't even tell you the title of it. They'll call...

something like that, Project Office. Yep, exactly. It's like if you're doing a McDonald's commercial, they'll call it Project Burger. Until you get the role, then they're like, oh, it's McDonald's. It's similar to recruiting. If a client is like... top or whatever they're like okay you're gonna interview for this client they won't tell you exactly exactly so so i did that and then i didn't get no call back no nothing right so fast forward to like two months later like in uh march

I think March or April, I had this gig in Vancouver, right? So I went to Vancouver. Everything around the trip was just annoying, you know, the flights, the hotel, everything. and all those ones everything but the show was good yeah you know but every other thing around that trip so i was just mad and i wanted to go yeah so i got to the i got back to toronto the flight i was meant to take to toronto

In the morning. I miss that flight. Or how much? Not even because of anything. It's because of the flight. The promoter. The promoter that booked the flight. Yeah, when it's the promoter, bro. You know the flight in the evening

that's when I landed in Toronto and then I seen Jay and Trey, right? And then I was like, ah, celebrity. So I screamed celebrity, you know, and the moment I... scream celebrity they turned around and like ah who are you i'm like you don't know me but today you know me and i introduced myself all of that and we exchanged contact and i was like if i message you people and you people don't reply then

People will be goofy ass people. No, no, they're going to reply. And, you know, before I left the airport, they messaged me. They were like, oh, we love your energy. That's amazing. Before you left the airport. We're working on this TV show. Yeah. Wow. I was like, wow, okay. These people are serious.

so i replied you know and like oh someone from their team will reach out and you know someone from their team reach out and it sends the script you know decides for the audition it's the same thing i'd already done before So I was like, yo, can I call you guys, you know? Yeah, back to that, yeah, can I call you? This didn't really work out the first time. Can I call you? What do y'all need from me?

i did this so then they were like you know what i've done this before okay cool do the same thing you know do it again like just be yourself let them let our team see what we've seen in you in the airport and i just did it again Yeah, that's how I... That's crazy. See, and this is why you cannot... Like, I always tell friends of mine and people I know that, like, dwell on negativity.

Like you don't know what that means, man. You don't know what the blessing could be of something negative happening in your life, bro. Like the most negative shit that's ever happened to me has led to the most profound shit that's ever happened to me. this nigga had the worst trip a promoter that he was probably cursing in his head and if it weren't for that nigga being so bad at his job you would have never met them trust

If the nigga was a good person at his job... If I was not booked to go to Vancouver and have to come back, there's no way I would... Well, if he was just good at his job even, you would have never met them. That nigga was irresponsible from a child for this moment. Yeah. He was made for you, man. No, honestly, yeah. It's a butterfly effect thing. It really is. His parents were bad parents for this moment. He's in the city, so I'll be like, really nigga?

Yo, what's going on here? Do you ever wonder how many purposes you fulfill in life for people and yourself that you've never noticed? Oh, man. That's funny. Cause like, you know how women like hate that they made a nigga great for the next, for the next woman. They hate.

They hate when they make a nigga good for the next woman. But what if that was your purpose? Let's stay right there for a second. Your pain had purpose. Oh, y'all. Hey, Yamosha. Y'all ain't hearing me in the air tonight. Your pain. has purpose yes you think that they add any sauce to that do you think they add any sauce to that because i hear so many women say that like i made him better

I made him better. Do they add sauce? I did all this. Do you know what it is? I want to talk about it. There's a proximity bias happening. Say more. Maybe you met me. when I wanted to evolve. Maybe you met me when it was time for me to evolve. You just happened to be there, shorty. It's a coincidence. But nah, you want to go and tell, oh yeah, that nigga didn't do this before me. He didn't do this before me.

I was going to do it. I was going to do it whether you were there or not. You just happened to be in the room. And guess what? I'm not selfish. Brother. I want to share that with you. You know, I. I may have. Yo, you know how many times women don't know that the compliment is a lie? Now we're cooking, bro. Let him cook. The compliments sometimes be lies.

Usually sexual. Let's start there. I would say 95% of lies that men tell that are compliments are sex lies. Because they all think they got the unique, magical... thank the thank the thank the thing right and you gotta play it of course you best the greatest i never come off

The first nigga to get that off is a sick nigga, bro. That is a sick nigga. I don't need to be doing this. Like, that's, oh my God. You're one of the ones. You're one of the ones. I never had that happen to me. I don't think you're, come on. I don't think you're that. You think of me? You think I think you're that? You think of you like that? I don't think you're that. Come on, man. No, never. Never. Oh, God. But we do. 100%. But we like that.

We just can't act like we like that because then that confirms that you're that to you. Sometimes he doesn't like it. Compliments be lies sometimes. A lot of times, bro. A lot of times. But also women are very spiteful sometimes too. I remember receiving some messages after some things have ended. of hilarious breakup part of women just saying, oh, you did this because of me.

That takes a lot to not respond. Like when you learn your waistline, you're like, yo, you did that for me. No, no, no, no. This is kind of an idiot. You learned a nutty one for me. But if you like cut your hair or something, they're like, oh, you did it to spite me. Like that to me, because I think a lot of, well, I think people in general, a lot of people in general do things in spite of their ex after the breakup. Like a lot of guys will work out.

and hit the gym even harder or like start making more money or whatever the case may be. And it's in spite of, it's not like, just like, ah, let me level up. Let me level up so she can see me level up. Have you done that? Never. Me neither. It's so corny to me. You have? Yeah. Why? I mean, mostly because I don't want it to confirm things that she probably already thought about me during the relationship.

It's like a self-esteem thing, probably. And then also, I don't want it to confirm things she may say about me to other people. So you do care about what they say. Of course. You care, but you also recognize you can't do anything about it. The difference between caring and trying to do something about it. Are you a people pleaser? People pleaser? No. If you care about what you're saying.

If I was a people pleaser, trust me, a lot more people would be pleased with me. I'm a very direct person and a lot of people don't like that. And I don't turn that off for anybody. But that's the autism though. Sure. But that's still...

His first viral moment ever

Would lead me not to be a people pleaser because I'm neurodivergent or whatever the case may be. Yeah, I guess. I'm just, yeah, I'm very direct. And I don't think that me personally. I don't think that being direct is rude if it's efficient. And I personally, when I'm on the receiving end, just think it's efficient. When other people are on the receiving end, they think it's me being a dickhead.

So I don't think that could be definition people pleaser if I'm like that. Because then I'd be crafting my arguments to be nice and pretty. I don't small talk. But you care about what you say? I do. I think that's the artist in me. Okay. I think that's the artist in me. Like I create, I need feedback. I need, because it informs where I'm going. And a lot of people are like, oh, you learned the most from your L's. I learned the most from my wins.

Because I'm a creator. I need to know what works. 100. Like when you're putting out Instagram videos, TikTok reels and shorts and all this stuff, you need to know what works. You can do what not works.

Forever and not learn how to fix up once you learn what works then you can repeat that and you can tweak that and you can refine it and make it better and I've noticed that I noticed that with YouTube when I was like this is unlike other things where like you learn from your L's like yeah of course you learn from L's that's just life yeah of course but in that specific

platform, you learn from the wins. When was your first viral video? Instagram. It's like 2014. Oh wow, when video first came out. So like 15 second video then. What was it? When I was doing this Tani Babae, this... do it for the vine i ain't gonna do it yeah yeah yeah i love that i did i did the nigerian version yoruba i love that yeah that was the first time i love hearing when when uh

Creators go viral off a trend that I also did. Oh, you did it too? I did the Jamaican version. Wow, really? But like... People pop off for different things like my breakout thing was the shit people say so like shit Jamaican people say I did that shit Toronto people say and That was a huge trend that went where I know people who blow up off Harlem Shake challenge

I knew people blew up off cinnamon challenge. Like I love hearing about what it was. People blew up off. Cause sometimes I forget it even exists. And I didn't even remember it. Do it for the mind. That little girl. Do it for the... I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna do it. I did it with a belt. I ain't gonna do it. I'm like, Mr. Fitz, do it for the... Hilarious.

Oh, man. So then after that, did you realize, like, were you trying to be a creator at that time? Or was that something that you're doing for friends? I think that time I was just doing it. I was just doing it. Then I met Chris Clown.

right let me make chris clown and then we would just link up every time and then we just make content especially when we're done school because it was still medical school then right i was still in ukraine because everything started in ukraine you know yeah everything started so now you didn't do any content creation in nigeria no no no like

I went to Ukraine when I was done, you know, high school. Okay. Straight to uni. And then Ukraine was where I started my first university education, right? And was he... a huge creator at the time or were you guys both like just starting out no he was already he was oh he's already a guy yeah it was yeah he was already a guy exactly exactly because prior to that it was kick you know k-e-k-e-k

That's a throwback geek. You know they're bringing back Vine. Yeah? Yeah, it's called Divine. Divine? Yeah, Twitter bought it. Oh, yeah? Wow. I'm interested to see it because, like, we talk about... how important it is on these apps to get in there early. You have to be first. And sometimes you get in there early, no matter if you know it's going to pop off or not, just to be in there early, just in case. This is about investing, bro.

Now I'm at a good point where like I have so much back catalog that I can just pop up on an app and just throw up something like I've already done. Right. Like right now with the shorts clips channel.

I'm posting every two hours. It got batch uploads for every two hours for the next three days. You're spamming the fuck out of that shit. Spamming the fuck out of it. Off the top, when you're starting something, yeah. When you're starting a new channel or starting anything new, you want to spam. Flood it.

Don't listen to any of these people about, oh, start off once a week and, you know, make your shit look clean. Give them everything you can. When I started this podcast, the first day was three episodes. Jesus. Off the top. First day, three episodes. Here you go. Pre-recorded. Six hours. Seven hours. Sheesh. Off top. And because of that, I went straight up to the top of the podcast list.

And it's just because you're just spamming it. Once the algorithm gets a hold of it. And when you're starting something new as a creator, you want to inform the algorithm who you are right away. Don't confuse it. Don't. Put a million fucking hashtags, fitness, sexy, cool, all this bullshit. You want to tell the algorithm exactly who you are and you got to make sure the first batch of content you're putting out. is in line with who you want to be for a long time because you're gonna get niched.

100% every single time. Whether it's your culture, whether it's the type of comedy you do. They're going to find you and they're going to claim you. They're going to claim you and that's it. That's who you are now. You're locked in. Now you guys go together. You're going to fucking Walmart for no reason.

This is why I wonder with the relationship couples. I can't wait to get, I want February to be all relationship couples as guests. Ooh, now you're talking. I want all of February to be relationship couples as guests. That dude, social media.

Because I think that would be so interesting to see the dynamics of how they balance real life and content. Marlon is already cooking. Marlon is already cooking 2026. Oh yeah, we're cooking up. We're cooking up, man. We have to... Viewers, please, you people should arrest. this guy because you cannot have a guest and now you're already planning a guest for future guests

Drake vs Jon Kabongo??

All for the month of February. Yeah. They're white. Ask him. Are there? Did you find white people in Nigeria? Is there a lot of white people in Nigeria? I mean, yeah and there. Yeah? Yeah, there's a few white people there. Few, but not a lot. Not a lot, but white people come to Nigeria. My pops worked with white people when, you know. What works with the Germans, with the Germans working for Julius Beja. Sorry about that. Sorry, why are you sorry? He hates German people. Whoa, I do not. Yeah.

I'm not going to do the hand gesture you did, but hey. This guy's out of his fucking mind. This guy's crazy. The Belgians is what I hate. The Belgians? The party city of the world? Why? Fuck out of here. They took over Congo, bro. Oh, word? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't like the waffles? No, actually I do. Yeah. I'm a big back bitch. So I love the fucking waffles. Big back, big back. Absolutely. So you are a big Drake fan.

Right? He's a big John Kabongo fan. Who's that? Oh, that's crazy. Don't do me like that. That's crazy, gang. He's Congolese, you know? I've told you. I've told you. This fact... I'm still... You don't believe that it's on the lease, right? I don't believe... I'll show you my paperwork, bro. I don't believe that it's on the lease, no. Claudius. It meant nothing to him. Yes, please. Claudius. Claudius. I've told you. I've told you.

Maybe from Kingston or from St. Mary. St. Mary, that's crazy. Maybe from St. Mary, look at one of those. They could be from the islands, bro. So back to this though. Yeah. So let's, let's start the, let's preface the story. So we live, we love hip hop. What were they discussing? Drake taking L's.

If he's ever taken L's in the city. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Or no, how people felt about Drake in the city when he was first coming up. That's what it was. But that was related to the peeing story, though. No, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. No, it's a completely different clip. So...

Yeah, they're talking about the respect level of Drake when he was first coming up, right? And just for some backstory, Toronto, pre-Drake, was very like, we want to be American. So bad. Like, it was just... We'd pretend to be American. A lot of niggas I know would talk with, like, an American twang, especially promoters. They would love to be like, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, we out here to... Really?

I'm dead ass serious. That was a real thing. For Havana especially, they pretend to be Americans and talk. Heavy identity crisis. We want to be big bro so bad. type vibe, right? Sad. Oh, wow. I was not around. You were not around, Dan? No. I was not around. That was not before my time. Around that time, like, Toronto music, it was respected in the city, but not respected outside the city. Nobody knew it outside the city.

really, right? And so most guys, if you wanted to really break out, you just try to go down to the States and try Ting, right? Cardinal was known in the States. Socrates, Choclair, a lot of our big OGs and legends, they were known. But not like getting major spins over there or anything like that, right? So if you were coming up in the city as a rapper, you weren't really respected. It wasn't one of those ones where you're like, oh, you're a rapper. Yeah, it was not.

It was like, oh, you're a rapper. Okay, cool. Cool. I mean, it was... Nigga got dreams. Yeah. Right? Well, you don't have a job. Mind you, obviously... You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Mind you, obviously, he comes from the grassy. Light skin. Already there's a perception there, right? But he can rap. So there was a, I would say there was a healthy balance at half the city. And I would say mostly the industry, especially that fucked with Drake heavily.

And a lot of people that were on the fence and were like, what is this? Like, we've never really seen this. I don't really know what to make of it. He doesn't sound Toronto. Yeah, I was too young to kind of feel that from the streets. But I remember watching the videos of Replacement Girl and being like...

Isn't that the guy from the grass? Yeah. I just remember him having very Toronto music while not sounding very Toronto. And I thought that was so unique. He did sound like he was from over there. No, because also the sound of his music.

I don't know what it was. There was a thing around, especially early 2000s, where a Toronto song would come on the radio, and within three seconds, you're like, this is a Toronto song. Even if you didn't know, you'd be like, that's a Toronto song. Just because of the production. Yeah, you're right.

a certain type of production that we had. Yeah. And his was completely different. I didn't know who boy one to T minus. I don't know what any of these guys were. Right. So I'm hearing his shit. I'm like, yo, this shit actually bangs. Like I heard brand new and I was like, yeah, the brand new was different.

who is this yeah so around that time it was a split thing half and half like feeling him not feeling him right so then this guy gets into the comment section um your boy what's his name justin justin limited It's just in limited. Yeah. Okay. You guys in the comment section, it says that like a lot of people weren't feeling Drake back then, essentially. His exact words were because it's important. That boy.

Is that what he said? That's what he said. Right? That's how he ended it was that boy. They weren't really feeling that boy. Right? It's getting tough for me to defend. Calling a grown man a boy. Yeah. in that context, especially when you're talking about people hating on him, I can understand Drake looking at that and be like, who the fuck is, which he literally started off saying, who the fuck is this guy? He said it in the Conor McGregor voice, right?

And he's like, you weren't a brand name back then. Leave it to the brand names to speak on it or some shit like that, right? Essentially saying you weren't a guy. Yeah, yeah. Which I don't know why he didn't say that because it would have been so good for office movers. Of course, of course, of course. He's basically saying you weren't a guy back then to speak on my status in the city. Leave it to those who had status, right? John?

kabongo enters the chat so john and jess are like this right in terms of and john is a person who wears his emotions on his sleeve you know very big on like values ethics all that stuff and he's a rapper as well right so and also toronto legend Hood-wise. I mean, court-wise. Yeah. His family, especially. His family as a whole. Toronto, to me, you can't play ball in this city during a certain time and not know his family. Family was incredibly talented.

at basketball, right? The rapping, I've seen over the past year or so. I'm not sure how long he started. I've seen the high school... There was a high school clip of him rapping in high school. Yeah, he's been rapping for a long time. So he's been rapping for a long time. Because he was doing basketball at the same time, but also rapping. But then, you know, he had an injury for balls. So it was like he'd focus more on that.

classic nigga story yeah yeah but like my knee yeah i forgot what the injury was but yeah but he actually was there doing it exactly he was doing it and then yeah he pivoted to rap and just kept doing that because he's been rapping for so long and he's fucking good at it you know and then

Kind of like you were saying, right? He got into the comments, defended his brother. How do you feel about that? Great question. If you were Justin Unlimited. I'd understand if it was John because John is that type of guy.

He's like, I don't play around with my people. I don't fuck around. You know, you have that friend, right? Yeah. Not my people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's that. And so seeing it from him, like, I completely understand it. Now, if I'm outside looking in, I'm like, bro, what's going on? Why are you guys, this is extra. But. the brotherhood that they have and also knowing the type of personality that Justin has.

I understand why John's doing that because Justin is never going to speak up in that way. Despite the fact that he did the comment on that post. That's where it gets tricky. That's where it gets tricky because you can't say that with your chest so heavily if you can't back it up. Because if he came back and said, actually, I remember the forums or I remember the whatever it is, right? To back up what he's claiming.

Just don't make the comment at all if you can't back it up. But I also understand thinking, hey, he's not going to see this. This is the problem with the internet. that he's not going to see this culture. You don't know what people see. You don't know who people are also. Just because they don't respond as Drake, he could have responded at some account that you have no idea that's Drake. Yeah.

And that happens a lot that people don't realize. Sometimes you're talking to the person you're dissing. And you don't know it. So don't run your mouth on the internet thinking people aren't going to see shit. Some people Google their names, Twitter their names, all types of shit. Fucking terrifying, man. And Drake, especially when he's in album mode, definitely don't.

say anything because he's just in the studio scrolling exactly exactly and so like yeah no john personally my jump out the window friends still dm me first ah Okay, so Ian, I don't know if that conversation happened before. Might jump out to homies, friends, and still DM me first? Because as a man, I'm going to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. You see what I'm saying? Why do you say it like that?

because because that kind of for me if my homie jumped out the window for me i'm like yo bro i could i could talk for myself so you look at it as a slight to yourself almost not even slight but like you didn't need to do that like i got this i'm good well you know what i mean if i need backup

I'll message, I'll say whatever. Yeah, I think John made the executive decision on that one and said no. Yeah, don't do that when you're my friend. Personally, I don't know what their dynamic is. I'm just saying, for me, Hit me up. Yeah. So he did that. And then he recently released a track, right? No Name Freestyle. Yes. Where he was responding to that comment, you know, and then kind of shooting shots. You say he's not treating Southside Drake, but let's be honest, it is kind of, you know?

Now, you're from that time, so you know exactly the names that he's dropping. You know what I mean? You don't know who Michael Jordan or Allen Iverson are? I was watching. Break it down. Go on. All right. Well, that's the Drake bar. Is it? Yeah. I didn't know what that was. He started off with a Drake Bond. It's like word for word. I get what he's trying to do. Like, when Drake first came in to the game. Yeah.

And this was a lot of people had read into this bar as him talking about Jay-Z or Kanye at the time. But he literally said this word for word. And it was like, because, okay, so the Michael Jordan AI moment, that's... Allen Iverson rookie year. First time facing Michael Jordan. First possession facing Michael Jordan. Shakes him. Ah, that's okay. Shakes him. I have seen this then, okay. Crosses the fuck out of him. Yeah. Scores, right? Got you.

That was his welcome to the NBA moment. Everybody's like, who the fuck is this little nigga? So Drake's basically made himself AI in that situation. He's still giving respect to Jay-Z. Like, you're the GOAT. But yeah, new blood's here. Got you, got you, got you. So John Cabongo is essentially doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Which I like it. I like this as an intro to it because like you're a ball player.

It's making sense. He's great at connecting the dots. You're a ball player, plus you know the context of why he used this, so now you're using it against him. I'm not mad at it. It does work with this throughout the song. Two Drake's song references. It's not like a pause, it's not a pause but I know what you mean. I'm a dog in the booth Rocks on me rock the stage a history like a pro my chance at the Apollo I'm here on my rocky flow

And I ain't getting bullied on my confidence. I only feel God, not accomplishments. I'ma catch up like some condiments. Just give it some time. And I don't never need they compliments. They know I could rhyme. That's bars, nigga. I kind of want the rappers to stop using ketchup. Why? It's a great condiment. Catch up, nigga. I want you to relish in this. You know what I mean? I like it. I like it. I like it. I guess that's how the new Toronto talent gets revealed. Yeah.

It's a passion that ain't ordinary. They ain't passing torches. We just adversaries. My life gonna be legendary. They climb the slang, then become us. Then call us no names like it's a one-up. True story. That's motherfucking bar. What did he mean by that? What do you mean by that? What part? My expels ain't working. Got looked up. What do you mean by that? Which part? By they. They clown us for the slang.

I'll play it again. Oh, wait, hold on. Can we stop the X-Files? It's not stopping. Can we stop? There we go. They ain't passing torches. We just adversaries. My life gonna be legendary. They climb the slang, then become us. Then call us no names like it's a one-up. True story. That's a good... Yeah, that is... Hold on, John. Let me use that. They clown the slang and then become us. Yeah. Call us no name. Didn't Drake call... Yeah. So Drake's they? Should we call him?

I'm scared. Is this a they not like us moment? I'm going to call him right now. Hold on. Because I don't, I don't, yeah, that's. And why is the other ring Drake? Yeah, yeah, only, only. Ooh. This is Exclusive, Exclusive, Exclusive. Watch him not pick up. Yo. John, you're live on the air. Do not say anything incriminating right now. Brother. Brother. We're breaking down the record right now, right? And I'm fighting for my life, right? And then there's one line, fam.

There's one line you said. Can you repeat the line? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm trying to get to the bar. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Can you repeat? Can you say it? They take the slang, then become us. I said they clown it. They clown the slang, then become us. Who's they? Who's they, man?

Have you ever seen videos of people just saying that, oh, it's ignorant how we talk, stuff like that? I don't know if you've ever seen that. I have. Who's there, though? Yeah, who said that? Like the person that I'm talking about. Oh So it confirms it. Oh, shit. John, what are we doing, gang? It confirms what I said. Oh, shit. Okay. I'm just saying, like, the song was in response to, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't want to keep saying the same thing.

But especially with that line, to me, I just feel like, you know what I mean? I've always, like, are you with Marlon right now? Yeah, no, we're all on the show, brother. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, Marlon's here. Good to hear you. It's like, there was a time where it's like, I remember being, what, grade six, grade seven, watching the How Toronto People Talk and laughing because it's like, oh, a YouTube viral video on how we talk. Like, this is...

part of my childhood, right? Right. Like, there's no way I could have been, like, 18 years old saying that, like, the slang of my city is ignorant. Mmm. Mmm. Like, down in the shots. Okay. No, it's not even a shot. It's just like my reality is different. It's over. Like, my reality is different. It's like, again, like, we used to be in the Hood Community Center.

like all watching those videos just laughing repeating it to yourself you know like repeating it to each other like at school middle school like these things were just funny to us because we understood it it was a representation of how we spoke to each other yeah you know what i mean yeah and So to me, it was just like, that's why it's like, that line for me is, it's why I ended it off with True Story because it's like, bro, like going back to the comment of who can talk on what, you know?

who's allowed to have a voice on what and it's like how how could how could you know we not have a voice and an opinion on something that's about toronto and it's like this is where else were we yeah I get it. I understand what you mean. And like, I just wonder if there is no way to make up for a comment like that. And if there's any context that would suffice as an explanation.

As an explanation to what? To the comment that was made. Because we know the video you're referring to where Drake says that the slang is ignorant and he's sitting around with a bunch of his, I guess, white co-stars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it was like a CTV spot or something like that. Some kind of side bit that they were doing, right? And he says that if someone asks him about a certain slang and he says that it's all pretty ignorant.

Right? Right. So are you still kind of holding that as a strike against him? I'm just saying, like, the way I view it is that... If somebody kind of has that type of way of thinking, especially at that age of life, you know what I mean? And then it's just like later on, like, you know what I mean? Like, people are starting to embrace their...

put out an energy more and more and then you know you're like oh okay well if that's what's going on well like maybe maybe that's the cool thing to do now how old are you john i'm 26. see See, that's tough. That's tough. Because we just got finished talking about Toronto pre-Drake blow-up, right? And one thing we were expressing was...

The constant desire as Torontonians when we were younger to be American. Like we'd speak American twang. We try to talk like Americans, try to dress like them, try to act like them, try to rap like them. All the things, right? And so at the time, I don't know how old Drake was in that video. He's clearly a teenager though. So I'm just assuming it was a different Toronto. You've grown up in a Toronto. Where Drake was up. No, not even Drake being up. Toronto was up.

okay whereas we can have pride in our city and we had our own thing and we realized we had our own thing and everybody was but i'm gonna tell you right now i was there not everybody felt that way back in the day a lot of people so like that's why it's always interesting when people bring up that clip yeah And thank you, John, for even indulging and talking to us. I really appreciate it. To me, I think to me, it's just like the word ignorant. Like, you know, like that language.

I don't like that. Yeah, it's white-centered. I get it. I completely understand it. I don't like the word ignorant when it comes to how black people talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. So, to me, that's all it is. So, obviously, like, that has to be... Even if people were talking like they're American or not Americans, it was like amongst us, we still had Toronto top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. So this is a diss song then.

Oh, shit. See, I tried to get it off the phone. I said, honestly, I think for something to be a good song, it would have to go, like, way beyond anything that I'm saying. You know what I mean? I like that.

I feel like for me, this was just a statement because really and truly, I feel like I find myself not really agreeing with a lot of the things that people from... his perspective are thinking like everyone is their own person you know what i mean and i and i and i think for me it's just like you know what like i'm not really as somebody that's from toronto like i don't really fully identify with like all of the ways that like

You know, they're thinking, like, even just some of the things you're saying, especially, like, something with, like, that comment where I'm just like, all right, like, you know what? Like, I want to feel confident in my ability to just go another direction.

That's what I was saying, too. Especially with your Rappability family, we definitely know what's coming. One thing I should have said, which I told you over the phone, too. Nigga, you should have did it over things. Stories about my brother. That shit would have went viral, nigga. It would have broke the internet, nigga. But love, love. Thank you. It's not enough school.

It's cool. I just want to say one last thing, bro. At the end of the day, it's like I made everything that I said clear. Like, you know what I mean? I'm going in a whole other direction. And if people feel like I'm hating... then people are just going to have to do more homework because it's just like, again, there's a lot of respect that has been shown. You know what I mean? 100%. I think for me, it's just like sometimes people just go several ways and people don't agree.

And I'm just trying to do something as, you know, part of the younger generation of raps in the city. That's just different. That's all. Yeah, you're doing that properly too, bro. Yeah, we'll be in touch, brother. Thank you. All right. Love. All right. Exclusive, exclusive, exclusive, exclusive. Premiere, premiere, premiere, premiere. Exclusive. So was it this song? It is a diss song. It is a diss song. Try to defend it. How does that make you feel?

Mr. Champagne Papi. That's not what I... Okay. We're done with the soundboard. I need to defend Drake, bro. What do you want me to say? Do you think Drake needs to defend him? I mean, if you're one of his, you know, right hands. You don't see the news today. most streamed Apple music artist of the year. What have you seen? Champagne, Babin. Anybody want to talk, they should talk their talk. Champagne, Babin, sis, go, Drizzy, Drizzy.

I personally I would never hold what someone says as a teenager against them this later in life I would depending on what it is I wouldn't I don't care what it is, to be honest. If he's going to do that, then we need to go check your tweets. Oh, yo, don't worry. Don't worry. They pulled his car facts already, bitch. No, but realistically, like, you're talking about... If you're watching this...

Please go check on his Twitter. They're already gone. Go search on. They're gone. I want you guys to search the word sex. Search the word gay. Search the word fuck. Search the word stupid. Search the word. eat Jamaica search the word Jamaica Fans of this show, please go and say shit. I'm not. I can't do it. Yeah, you're right. I agree with you. Yeah.

If you're going to hold somebody for something they said when they were 15, then we're going to hold you for something they said when you were 15. That's a good point. I guess when you said it, the first thing I thought of was some really, really racist stuff. I said the F word at 15. Right, but that's different, though, because, like, unfortunately, that was kind of part of culture. Like, it was nearly a hangover, right? But this is what it goes right back to my point. Part of culture.

Like, there was a culture of people who were like, Toronto slang shit is ignorant. Sounds stupid. I guess you're right. Yeah, you're right. Like, I have friends that said that. So it's like, it wasn't even something that was like, oh, you're trying to be white. Okay.

for saying that. It was just like, people were like, ew. It was inherently anti-black, but not thought about that at the time. People thought Americans, everything American was cool. If you're not trying to be American, you're not cool. Oh, yeah? That's how it was. So lame, man. It was very lame, bro. Lame, man. Niggas used to go to Caravana and change their accent and name. In their own city. In their own city because they knew girls wanted the Americans. Embarrassing. So this crudy. Oh.

It didn't exist. Really? It didn't exist, brother. Not until this one guy made this video. Shit Toronto people say. And then the rest is history. Although I'm the new guy. Niggas never heard of Greasing or Lifey. Honestly, my first moment of Toronto pride when it comes to slang was Bacardi slang by Cardinal Official.

Burna Boy digging himself a grave?

TDOT don't say what you're saying. TDOT says you don't know. Like the whole video is just telling you this is us. That's y'all. This is us. And it was specifically speaking to like the Americanism that was happening in Toronto. It was like, yo, you guys, they say that shit. We say.

a whole different we have a whole different language over here yeah yeah go listen to that song when you get home trust me that's that was the first instilling of toronto pride that i ever had and then old time killing and then shot clear then socrates then fucking northern dog money jane nigga

I can't even say the same. Y'all niggas weren't there for money, Jane. You guys went outside for money, Jane. When I thought Julie Black was Mary J. Blige, y'all weren't there. I thought that too. I thought I was alone. She didn't smoke crack. She got her on. She moved her on a lot. That's a banger right there. You just don't know, man. You just don't know, man. At this point, I believe you are Congolese. There you go. You be hanging, bro? Very formal hand trick, too. Burn a boy.

Yeah, this is your bag. This is your cousin right here. Giant of Africa, man. The pride of Lagos, man. What's going on over there, brother? Nigga yelling at people for sleeping at his concert. Wake up, wake up. Getting that, throwing people out of the show, paying them to leave. Now you got to cancel the tour because nobody's showing up. What's going on? What's going on, bro? I cannot speak. I cannot speak on, I cannot speak on that.

Do you know Mr. Boy? All I can speak, Mr. B, Bonoboy is an African giant. African giant makes amazing music. But, you know, you have to separate the art from the artist. You understand? But at the same time, Bonabo is an amazing person. We can't, you know, we cannot... Everybody has, you know, everybody has the time when, you know, they have those trying times. So I guess that was the trying time and, you know. I love that you said that.

Yeah, so there will be a time usually you have a trying time. Maybe when your fans, you know, they go check your tweets, you know, and they see, you know, they see what you've been tweeting 10 years ago. Because you want to hold, you want to hold Drizzy for something, you see? Then we finna hold you for something. Would you hold something?

against burn if he said it like a couple years ago like not even that long ago honestly like not he's not a kid like you're a grown man what do you see one thing i always see is before you owed somebody for something, you need to, this hand you're using to point something, your own hand is, check your safe, check your safe inside. See, but if we did that, then nobody would be in jail. You know what I mean?

That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you just got to point the figure regardless of your own morals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For like this, for example. Just being in a place where I wanted to forget I was even injured. you understand like why did that come about did you wanted to did you need bro i wasn't to be honest i wasn't proud why it wasn't really yes you feel me like and that's the truth it wasn't great

To be honest, I wasn't proud to be Nigerian, bro. Why? It wasn't really a proud thing to be at the time. Yes. And that's the truth. It wasn't really a proud thing. Coming from being in the UK and stuff at the time, it wasn't really the proudest thing to be. Because, like, they just always used to clown us and try to, you know, wear the apps and, you know, all that things. So, yeah. Trauma.

oh yeah i understand what he's saying i understand what he's saying i understand what he's saying i can defend him on that on that fund he said you know there was a time he was not proud to be nigerian And which is true, there were times when, yeah, because in as much as, yeah, we're low, we're African giants, we're proud to, there was a time when even being Nigerian, people were just like, ah. Almost a survival though.

It's almost a survival tactic in a sense, especially depending on your surroundings, right? 100%. If you are in a surroundings where it's like predominantly white. or predominantly just not African, you almost, in a sense, feel like you have to assimilate to survive. If you want to be invited to the parties. Exactly.

welcomed on the sports team, bust jokes with the guys. You can't be bringing your African food to school type shit. And this is, it goes right back to Drake again, the whole Drake thing again. It's like, you're talking about a guy who's in a white school. also half white too it might have been a thing of survival for him to be like yeah yeah fuck that black shit yeah yeah and it's like we're not gonna look at it that way because obviously he's in a privileged area but

I don't think people understand that when you're a kid, especially, you don't know what the difference between oppression is. Like, someone else's oppression... cannot equate to what you're going through because what you're going through, you're feeling and experiencing. You don't know how to think outside of yourself yet as a kid. Like, so like somebody may be going through like some bullying, right?

You may be going through like physical bullying. You may be going through verbal bullying and feel like your shit is way worse than their physical shit. Right. And it's just because you're in it. So it's like when people bring up like other people's privilege. as to discredit their pain, I always look at it weird because I'm like, they don't know the difference. They don't know another life.

where they can equate that pain. Their pain is their pain. Yeah, I guess I do partially agree, but also most of me kind of disagrees only because there is an order, like a pecking order when it comes to the struggle Olympics, right?

Of course. Yeah. But I mean, that kind of goes against that point, right? I'm saying like, there's everyone, there's, there's things that are agreed upon. Like, Hey, this is worse than this. Yeah. But I do also agree with the rest of your point of saying like, there's sometimes you can't measure it. It's tough for me to measure. Absolutely agree with you. Subjectively, it's no difference to people, which is why you see white people always up in arms like, come on.

Wait, you think I live just a privileged fucking life? You think it's easy? I am a person of a belief that everybody has balance. You could be rich as fuck. Something else is going crazy wrong in your life. Andre. There's nobody out here just living a great life every day. No, not at all. Everybody has their pains, bro. And so, like, your pain is your pain. Like, regardless of if...

it's me being called the nigger or you losing your home because your singles ain't hitting anymore. Yeah. That's your, I can't look at you and be like, yeah, you got, you still got a couple hundred thousand in the bank. What's the problem? You just lost your home.

I think it's honestly, yeah, the mentality is what the biggest thing is. It's how you kind of deal with that shit, right? Because somebody can have a bunch of terrible shit happen to them. Just like JK, like a whole flight situation. You could be like, yo, I don't want to talk to fucking anyone. Absolutely. Like, I want to get home. Absolutely.

Having his mind saying like, nah, I see these guys celebrity. You know what I mean? Still being positive in that. How do you transform the L? How do you transform, transmute it to what you need it to be, man? It's tough, man. It's not. No, if you're stuck in your ways in terms of being negative Nancy, trust me. Absolutely. We all have those people in our lives. Absolutely. Always complaining, always unhappy. Of course, that's the energy you attract. It's all fair based though. Like overthinking.

And all that is all fair based. Whatever trauma happened in your childhood, it's just manifesting. So now you need to be safe. So I'm going to overthink every single scenario. Until I can find safety. And even that, I'll double and triple check. How much time do you give that person to do that? I don't know. It depends on how you feel about them. Does it? Yeah. Like. Love. Love. It's a lot tougher to leave. Six years. How much patience do you have, too? How much patience do you have, man?

How much hope do you, and at what point do you, is it, because it's funny with little like self problems, like things you need to improve on as a human being. I don't know ever if like when you're talking to your partner about evolving in certain ways, is that technically trying to change them? Well, yeah. That's a fantastic question. I always viewed it the other way of not changing them. But then whenever I would.

it would be received in the way that you're trying to change me which is why sometimes i feel like people don't voice things because or they'll try to do it in a different way because their mindset is oh i'm trying to like i don't want to change i'm not

here to change them yeah they got to be who perfect for me in whatever way without me changing them yeah i think for me it wasn't even about like just for me it was more so like i've heard you say this thing about you wanting to do that just week then And niggas don't want to change, man. Yeah. They don't. They don't. They really don't, bro. It's a comfortability. It is. In a routine. And part of that routine is who you are.

That sucks. That sucks so bad. What's something about you, JK, that you're constantly working on that you want to change or shift? As a creator as well. As a creator? I think without thinking. Yeah, without thinking. Post or pre? Both. Because you have two different types of creators. Ones that overthink before they make the thing and ones that overthink after they make the thing.

and both ways it doesn't come out i think for me overthinking overthinking boys with time is already getting i got someone who could teach you about that yeah she's sitting right there hannah How do you get over just like, you know, the overthinking when you're about to do content? Because she's been on her content grizzy lately, dropping vlogs like crazy. Yeah.

Um, how do I start overthinking? I first started reading the Let Them Theory book just to like jumpstart, like just actually getting into the mindset of it.

And then after that, like the first three chapters were really good, like the let them and then let me. So I tried to really focus on it. And then my best friend really sat down with me and she's like, listen, like there's going to be hate comments. People aren't going to like you. They're going to say your form of shit and all this kind of stuff.

So she's like, you have to actually be prepared to do it. And I think also like not to like be corny and like, you know, but being around you guys and seeing your hustle and your drive, I'm like.

If I just do it now and start now and like not give a shit now, it's going to be so much better for me down the line. And it's like I lost so many more followers. Like, you know, the people that say they support you actually like really don't. And like as soon as I. I posted like I got to 100,000 K views after just doing a little bit of weeks.

Everyone's like, oh, I love it. All of a sudden everybody's commenting, right? Yeah. They need social proof. I'm one of those dudes. Exactly. Your friends and everybody you know need social proof, even though they know and love you. That's just a fact that you have to get over it. And in terms of the overthinking content.

Just always remember imperfection is sometimes perfection. Sometimes the imperfections and the mistakes you make in your content become your content. Yeah, you never see like a bad... Sorry. Go on. I used to do Ask McFly, a series on my channel where people would send in questions and I would never answer them seriously, right? Bring it back. I still haven't done 100.

It's detox for me. It's never coming out. There was a one time where someone made a joke about something. About something I had said in a previous video. And I like, I think I was really angry that day. I don't know what about, I can't remember what it was. I was not in the mood to film, but I was just like, I have to film. I need to pay rent.

And I was not in the mood to do it. And when they made the joke, I just like, oh, you're so funny. What's your channel, bro? What's your channel? And I walked up to the camera and did it. And I had to do it every single time I made a video after that because they're like.

what was that? And even in the editing, sometimes you'll notice little imperfection stuff, but you're like, nah, that's funny. That's good. Like I made a mistake there, but that, that works. And now that becomes your thing. So like, Yeah, the overthinking, honestly, just post, man. Yeah. You also don't know what they want. Right. You think you know sometimes. You work so hard on a video. Mm-hmm.

Producing, editing, writing, everything. You pre-plan it. You're like, I'm going to do this right this time. Put that out, don't do shit. A video you just, you saw something, you reacted to, you're like, nah, I gotta make a video right now. No prep, no nothing. Put it out, a million views. It's crazy. It's crazy. You've been able to build off the handshake, which I'm so shocked that the hands are out. Can I?

I shook his hand a few times. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Wow, I felt the power. You know, the original hand is at home. Oh, there's a rental. Yeah, this is right. Got you, got you, got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hand locker. It's in the museum. It's in the museum. Cost you an arm and a leg. What's it called? Who'd you meet right afterwards? Olamide is the Nigerian rapper. He's really good. He's really big. He gave me my first spot on TV in Nigeria. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he was going to have...

There's a music video, Goons Me, it's on YouTube. Yeah, you put me in the music video. It's called what? Goons Me, Goons, like my Goons. Goons Me, so M-I. Goons, you? So my goons, goons me, like my gang. Oh, gang, gang, because you know, goon means a little different these days. Goons me, I was like, wait, oh. Yeah, that one, the first one, this one, yeah.

What were you doing in the video? I was just listening. I had my own scene, but they didn't put it in. Yeah, I had my own scene where I did like a funny thing. But in the video, I was just...

I just appeared in, like, one, two, three. But you were supposed to have your own talking scene. Yeah, I was meant to have my own scene, like, that we recorded. Damn. It was not in the video, and I was like, damn, you know, I already told on my boy, like, yo, I'm up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the video comes out, and I'm just seeing.

myself then I have to be you know you know you have to be telling people yo that's me bro that's me I'm the only guy to video especially cause music videos move so quick with the scenes so like you're in it for like half a second

And another thing is I was wearing a wig, too. I was wearing, like, an Afro wig so that people would not recognize me because of my folks at home because I didn't want them to know I'm on a... In a gangsta video. Yeah, I'm on a video, too. Let me share this game without the sound. That's hilarious. Let's go. I can't see you, brother. You can't even see me. So what's your goal? Stand-up or acting? Both of them. I love acting. I love stand-up.

I just, I love creating. I love acting. I really love acting. I'll be taking acting class. Yeah. I still take acting class. So he flopped on us last time. Yeah, man. Hollywood, man. Fucking dickhead. A couple of handshakes have just changed. Fucking guy, man. Yeah, I need to fucking relax. My bro. So I still take acting class. I love acting. For me, it comes naturally.

a little and you know since i've been taking classes i just realized that you know acting is life you know there's more to acting and you know there's more to just for me all along I thought oh I know this stuff I've been creating content oh no my first acting class teacher was like my buddy drilled me you know he drilled me and I was like damn I don't even know nothing like you know He did it twice? He grilled you twice?

Like, when someone drills, you're not... Nobody drills me. I've told you, I've told you, I've told you, they need to do something to you. Black and dicker? They need to do something to you. Black and dicker, too? They need to do something to you. What's he drilling? Wood? Yeah, something like that. Cedarwood. Cedarwood. All right. This guy's a drill sergeant. He's got a title and everything. Mr. Driller.

Yeah, nigga, nigga, shut the fuck up. Especially Mr. Duke. Mr. Duke, you really shut up. The man with the yellow hat. Yeah, I got you, I got you. You know, so the class, so...

Since then, I've just, normally because when I get a script, you know, I just read the lines because I thank God for memory, good memory, right? So I just read the lines and I'm just, but now there's more into... getting into character there's more into understanding the script there's more into like doing the homework you know so yeah acting for me and then stand up on its own if for me

When I meet people, I just naturally, I don't know when I start talking, they're already laughing and all of that. And Pops, my family is really, really funny. You're great because you go right into bits. My pops is... I love bit people, man. My pops is really... My pops is... Bro, my pops... You're a yes and person. Did you get that from your dad? Yeah. my pops my pops is so funny my pops oh my pops i think one day i think the world needs to

They need to see my pops in action. Oh, man. You and him like the wah-wah-wah in the wah guy? Yeah, exactly. Wah-wah-wah in it. Funny thing is me and my pops, we did a video on Instagram. long time like 2015 when I was still in Nigeria when I went to Nigeria yeah and people really loved it back then but you know people love

Father, son, mom, mom, mom, mom, daughter, rather. Especially culturally as well, like for Africans, the dad is always the entertainer. That was your 100th episode? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 100th episode for me, I had my dad on my podcast. But yeah, no, you're right. Is that your highest viewed? No. Funny enough, I think maybe London.

was one of the highest viewed ones. That's hate. Unfortunately. That's hate. Unfortunately. That's crazy. Highest listen though. No, a breakup episode. They hate me. Keep going. Yeah, my listeners are just, they love mess. They just love mess. You love to give them the mess. You're Jess with the mess. Man of the people. Man of the people. Duke with the mess. That is you. You are Duke with the mess. I hate this. Messy Duke. I hate this. I hate this so much.

Do Cassie. Do Cassie. Stupid. Do Cassie. Do Cassie. Yeah, man. For me, the goal is just, honestly, the goal is just to keep going, you know? Just to keep going, bro. You already know. Malon, you already know. Just keep going, really. Stand up, you know, do shows. I have my show. Working towards my show. December 21st. Yes. My Canadian chapter. You know, if the episode is out before the end. It is. It is.

Wow. You are quick. You are very quick. Tomorrow video will be out on Thursday. Okay. December 21st. My Canadian chapter. I'll be opening. I'll be in attendance. Malon has already put himself inside the show. If you see Malon there, just know he's going to do 10 minutes. Malon has already put himself inside the show. Let's go! The real Niger way.

So, my love is subtracted for my time. I will promote it. A lot of people have messages that are like, yo, JK, bro. But the thing is, we already have two people that are going to perform already. But now as Marlon has put this inside, there's no problem. 10 minutes last of JK. So sorry, guys. So you'll be booed. You'll blame Marlon. Comedy bar. We're going to have extra 10 minutes. Nice. Go Marlon. What time is the show?

At Comedy Bar Danforth. Are you taping it? Is it taping? This is a special. This is your Canadian special. Come on! Come on! I don't know. I don't know. You people are putting pressure. You people are putting pressure on me. I don't know. But we are going to tape it. We are going to tape it. And by the grace of God, you know, we are going to put it out there.

One show? We plan to do more than one show by the grace of God, you know. By the grace of God, meaning you guys. Yeah. You know, support. After you support my show on December 19th at Stacked Market. I'll be having four comedians. It's going to be an amazing show. Knock, knock. First edition.

Of the monthly show, man. It's going to be amazing. So this is first. You see, as Marlon has put himself inside my show, this is first edition. Marlon, if you don't put me inside the second edition, if I don't see my name in the second edition, I say, okay, JKO. You just took five minutes out of my time, guys.

JK will come and do my second edition. He just took seven minutes out of my time. I'm so sorry. JK will be on my show on the 19th. If you want to see him before his show, come to my show on the 19th. There you go. You don't even need to go to his show on the 21st. Just come to my show. That's crazy.

On the 19th. Knock, knock. Who's there? You are. We are going to cancel from extra gravy. We'll remove the gravy. We'll turn it to pepper soup. Extra pepper soup. Extra pepper soup. Extra pepper soup. What else do we need to get into before we leave? Canada was 17th on the most beautiful woman list. That was actually crazy. You've been a, you're a bit of a world traveler. Is that accurate? 17th.

Ah, 17. How do you feel about a Canadian woman in general? I think Canadian women, they are lovely, they are beautiful. We are going to give it... Let me tell you something. From being around the world, I would say, you know, the Russian, the Ukrainian women, they have beautiful women. Good milk. Good milk over there.

But me, I like, you know. Petrovas and shit? Fuck out of here. No, no, no. Me, I like my coins. I like my coins. I love my coins. White queens, eh? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I thought you said coins. My queen, queen, queen. My beautiful, you know, beautiful black queen. Beautiful Alabama. Have you met Stacey Dash? let's leave some people we cannot speak to them maybe they can be princess maybe they're not queen or maybe they can even be

Jaguar, right? But shout out to my beautiful... My beautiful queen, the black queens, the black queens. Shout out to them. Shout out to everybody. Shout out to the white queens. Shout out to the Indian queens. Shout out to the Chinese queens. Shout out to the Asian queens.

Shout out to all the queens in the world. Shout out to two podcasts gone this week, man. Need to Know Pod is done. Yeah, bro. With Savon and Alex. It used to be Savon, Alex, and Reggie. I don't know what happened with that. Shout out, Reggie. I have not.

listened to the episode yet i have um they got into some real things man podcasting is not cheap podcasting is not cheap and it's very tough to balance potting and real life um they're making really good money but i just i guess it's poor money management I assume. They're making really good money. What's really good money? Well, over six figures from the pod. And unfortunately, a lot of the ads withdrew.

because there was an issue in terms of like the funds kind of being thrown in terms of like BIPOCs things. I forget exactly what it was, but that impacted their business a lot. You know, there's less advertising for the whole industry. And so.

That shifted a lot. Reggie leaving as well impacted their whole business as well. So why did Reggie leave? Savon was doing some things on cam that she didn't like. And Savon was kind of just saying, you know, we're friends. So it's cool. Like, you know, my intent.

Despite the fact that she told them, hey, I actually don't like when you do these things. So they didn't exactly say exactly what the one thing was, but I guess it was an ongoing thing. And Reggie said, hey, she just called them one day and said, I can't do this anymore. I don't want to do it together anymore.

and it was a tough call you know like she was kind of crying on the phone uh alex apparently was crying too and it was an emotional call and they parted ways so are you guys gonna party soon god forbid I'm not joined with this nigga. It's a part ways. I know, part anything. I've been there. Nah, nah. We have a little addition.

Yeah, we do. That's happening. Well, we'll talk about the end of the year. We'll talk about it in a couple weeks. You guys will see. Yeah, because there used to be like, I don't know, four of you guys? Yeah. Yeah. Wow, two Dunga solo or what's going on? Kinda. Some of that, yeah. One bed carry waka, we see the carry go. Nobody waka, nobody go solo. you see now you people are still here yeah you know one don't go solo another one don't go solo two people still remain malon is pressing phone

When is men to be on board? No, sorry. There's somebody here dropping off two rugs for us. Sorry for your safety. If they're outside, if you can get them. If they're not dropping a rice and peas. Shout out to SixRugs for dropping off some rugs for us. Shout out to SixRugs. I have no idea what they look like. This is a surprise.

Okay. You see, the next guest, we should bring rice and peas. Rice and peas? Yeah, rice and peas and... Extra gravy? Yeah, extra, exactly. I see what they did there. Extra gravy. I don't even think you saw what you did there. And pepper soup. I'm pretty sure.

What else happened this week? It was my girl's birthday this weekend. Yeah, bro, how was that? I'll be ready. Shout out to my baby man. I think I did good. I think I did good this year. What did you do? What did you do? That's the biggest question. What did you do? Oh, um...

As a man, as a man, what did you do? As a man, as a provider. As a man. As a brother, as a half, you know? What did you do? As a leader in the relationship. What did you do? How much do you guys think you're supposed to spend, like, minimum? $8,000. At least eight racks, you know, for my girl. Eight rickety's. Eight big ones. Sound light.

How much do you spend on your girl, on average, for the birthday? For the birthday? Bro, it's going to be a couple racks, probably. A couple racks? If I'm... Ah, I don't know. A couple racks is steep. No, I focus on, like, the things we're doing. No, no, no, no, no. I mean...

Amen. But I focus on the things that we're doing. You know what I mean? Like, it'll be like, okay, we'll do a little bit of spa shit. We'll do this. We'll do that. It's like a mix of a bunch of shit that she's been wanting to do. And then even if it's item. Sure. We'll squeeze that in. I don't really look at the price. I more so look at what it is. One is always an experience. I always make sure that there's an experience. I always make sure there's something like cute.

As in, like, endearing. I always make sure there's something that I kind of made myself. Oh, yeah, that's. Yeah. And then, like, I want it. Oh, it's usually like, okay, whatever you. your favorite food is your tea ice cream whatever it is package no i don't make a package just throughout the day so like for example she wanted a shelf up uh in the room for like damn narrow months now

And it's just been sitting there, right? This nigga's sick, bro. What? You're just waiting for your birthday. I'll do it. The last month and a half, I was like... I'll take all the garbage from your birthday. Yeah, her birthday, I'll do it. And I just got someone from TaskRabbit to come through and just...

Oh, so you got another man? Yes. To do it? Yeah. So you got cucked for her birthday? Is that what it is? That's how you look at it? That is how I look at it. So if you had a butler, you'd be a cuck? So you're a butler? I've never had a butler, bro.

I do it myself. That's good for you. I would have a butler. I wouldn't do that. A little bitch ass nigga that does what I tell him to do. Another man in your house doing things. And what I pay him to do. Another man in your house doing things. Couldn't be me. Is he good looking? Remember, I said, I see man. I see mom. Yeah. You got another man. That's crazy. As a man, I paid another ute to come shoot.

You gotta say you, right? Yeah, you have to. A little man. He was tiny. He put up the shelf. She's ecstatic. She's losing her mind, right? Got her favorite tea. Got her lunch. I was waiting on the fucking Uber Eats, dropped it off at the door. I'm like, she's going to be home in five minutes. This is perfect. Oh, that's fine. I came home. What? Oh, my food's in the door. She didn't come home in on time. I made her a coloring book of like our pictures. That's what I'm talking about, bro.

That's what the fuck I'm talking about, bro. Very difficult. I kind of messed it up because there was like the back and the... I was printing everything in Staples, right? So I'm like... Jesus, man. I'm making it all on AI. I'm doing all the things. That's tough, though. I'm going through the hard drive trying to find old pictures and shit.

And yeah, I made the coloring book, but the back and the front is just not the right size. I messed it up. I didn't staple it. It's an illusion, baby. It's loose leaf. It's an illusion. It's a minimalist coloring book. Abstract. so and uh what else got her some next shit I want to talk about and got her uh the uh oh This place I found in Toronto. This type spot. That's not exposed, man. No, we're going to expose this one. No?

No, we got a gatekeeper a few months. Okay, I won't say what it is. Let me go. Where it is. I won't say where it is. Okay. But it's a Thai spot that essentially you go upstairs. They hand you robe, pajamas, all that shit. You get a full Thai massage. Like full experience, like walk on your back, climb on you, all the shit, right? 60 to 90 minutes. Yeah, on the bars. 60 to 90 minutes. Then you go downstairs and they have their Thai dinner.

and it's like it's a whole spread they pat your stomach after every bite it's fire it's incredible it's fire oh the pricing i think it's between 50 to 300 The couple's package was like three bills or something like that. That's nothing for a nigga like him with the castle. Ain't shit. Ain't shit. I shit $300. At my reality. Yeah, yeah, nothing.

Ask her to pay for her birthday. And that's the other thing. Anywhere you go, she can't pay. Of course not. Went to get a pedicure, went for dinner twice. The whole day, you got to have your arm out like this, just ready to tap. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Babe, it's fine. No, it's not. You know it's not. Just shut up. You know my finances. Just shut your fucking face. You know it's not. You see the accounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I shouldn't do this. It's fine.

Yeah, yeah, you know. Fuck, I look like having you pay on your birthday. The fuck? Yeah, no. I'm happy I'm able to do that. I wasn't able to be that type of boyfriend in past relationships. Man, round of applause for growth, man. Growth. I wasn't able to be that type. I was broke as fuck. And it would be, yo, it'd be the worst. I'd always get broke around the birthday, around Valentine's Day, around Christmas. For some reason, Marlon don't got money. Damn. Just horrible.

Just horrible. You didn't make, like, cook for them or anything? Oh, yeah. No, I made up for it. I'd eat extra pussy. I'd fucking... Oh, my bad. Sorry. But you gotta do that for real, yeah. It's extra yummy today. Yeah. No, you gotta drop extra dick off when you're broke. All that stuff. Rounds? As many as you want. You never heard that before. When I got a job, one round's enough. You say, brookman fuck better. Who am I impressing? Ladies, if you need a man to fuck you good, get your brookman.

Exactly. He got to work. He got a new job. He got to work, man. How else will I distract you from no gifts? Exactly. When you're broke, fam, cramps don't exist. Babe, did you give me a dick? Exactly. Ta-da! Babe, can you wash your dick? Imagine that Michael Jackson nigga that man seen on your phone. Stupid. Michael Jackson throwing dick out the Michael Jackson way is crazy.

Yo, we got a special drop-in and I feel so bad. I left him outside for so long, man. My bad. Dedication, though. Let's get it on camera right now. Just because of the dedication. Six rugs. Six underscore rugs. Six. The number six with I-X underscore rugs. Six, six, six, six. Has dropped off two rugs for us. For the gang. Let's open her up. I have not seen these. This is an extra gravy exclusive. Oh, shit. Oh, this shit look fire. Hold on. Oh, I got a paper cut. Move that over. Oh, shit. Wow.

Oh, no, that's hard. Oh, that's hard. This is crazy. That's hard. I made this one. This ain't shit. No, no, no. Touch me. Touch me. That's fine. I made this on my last girl's birthday, actually. My girlfriend's last birthday. This is amazing, man. Thank you so much. Appreciate it, man. Appreciate it. Thank you so much, dog. Six underscore rugs. Look at the clean work. Look at my bullshit.

Fuck outta here! Look at that! Got new gravy in this bitch. You're blocking my blessings, brother. Move it, move it from the camera. There you go. That's so hard. Oh, my God. This is crazy. Wow. Our new co-host is going to hate that. Yeah, bro. Thank you. Oh, man. Patreon's going to find out first. Just let y'all know. Yes, sir. Get on that Patreon, man. Patreon family might actually know who it is. Another Extra Gravy Radio coming this weekend, maybe. Maybe.

Tuesday. You're going to see us around a lot. I'll say that. You'll see us around a lot. The boys are moving and shaking. We're moving and shaking. Yeah, for sure. Thank you so much for coming through, brother. Yes. We do something here called Manifestation Moments, man. You want something, you ask for it. It usually happens. Go ahead. What do you want? from life what do you want to manifest over the next couple years sustainable growth it's a big word

Sustainable growth? That's one word, right? That's one word, yeah. You know, there's one thing to grow and another thing is for you to be sustainable, you know? To keep it going. To keep growing. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That girl tells me that all the time. Because I don't have sustainable growth. Stuntive growth. Jesus Christ.

Oh, man. JK has a show December 21st at Comedy Bar Danforth. It is his special. It is his taping, and you guys will treat it special, and you guys will laugh hard as fuck. This is great. This is dream. Yeah, man. This is life. Come on, man. Don't play with it. Don't. All right? Thank you so much for coming through. Office Movers, obviously, you can check them out on there. You can obviously check them out online at JK.

J.K. Kenny. J.K. Kenny online, on Instagram, and on Twitter. TikTok, all the places you want to learn English. We got you. J.K. Kenny anywhere. Favorite line from Office Word. In your toilet, J.K. Kenny. Fuck you, nigga. Fuck you. J.K. Kennedy, ladies and gentlemen. Another week. Another banger. Another classic. I'm Marlon. I'm Duke. And that is The Extra Gravy.

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