We Croed ft. Sasha Reneé

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consistency but also the expectation too like that's the important part expectation yeah because you said like you have to not expect it right then and there people be consistent for a week it's like where's my million dollars yep yep and that's why people usually fall off because they're like oh my god i can't believe i have to show up to do this

and over again and I'm not like on a yacht or driving my favorite car a lot of people are expecting the you know the g-wagon the first year because we have all these 19 year olds on tiktok talking about how they made a million off of videos right so people get this very skewed version of like what success looks like and how long it takes and it takes a minute most times yes sir I like the countdown too.

Countdown was strong. He definitely did 85. He upped it. That amped me up. It did, right? That amped me up. That amped you up. It did. Yeah, man. We out here. Another week. Another classic. Who else but us? Who else but us? Who else but us? Who else but us? Us, baby. I'm Marlon. I'm Duke. And we back, man. Extra Gravy. Another week. Another classic. It's us.

And we got a guest in the building. A very special one. A very special guest in the building. Friend of the show. Repeat guest. Repeat offender. Fashion designer. World traveler. And now actress. Sasha's in the building! Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here once again. That rock. Last time she was here, it was with Uncle Daddy. Big up Uncle Dad. Shout out to my dad. Yeah, I know. You're running Global Empires, man.

I'm so happy that you said that. Because I can feel the weight of that. Yes. It's a lot of pressure, I would assume. With Daddy's Kitchen, is it a lot of pressure? I mean, you have... You guys have found a pocket where if you find that pocket of YouTube, you might be set for life. Because whoever made the video, how to tie a tie first. Oh. He's eating every year. Every year he's eating.

And he just made one video. Graduation season, holiday season. Actually, that one guy made a whole channel to show his son how to do things as a man. But I think he was...

Was he dying? I don't know, but I know exactly what you're talking about. There's a guy who made a channel like If I Was Your Dad, basically. Yeah. Yeah, to help out kids without dads. That's what it was. I've never seen that. Yeah, it's really dope. It is. It's really dope. It's one of the first places I learned how to tie a tie, for sure. Okay, so see.

That's... I didn't have to watch that. Thanks, Pops. I didn't have to watch that. Yeah. But you guys... How to Make Curry Goat? That's forever. Forever. And the crazy thing about it is... We weren't the first person to do it. Nope. But just the best. Ain't about who did it first. It's about who did it best, man. Wise words from a decent man. I'm just saying. I said that. A guy you met.

Guy you worked with, actually. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. But Uncle Daddy's kitchen, like...

In terms of how to run a successful, is it just consistency? Because we hear that a lot in creator world. And I know people who are starting off, that's what they constantly hear. Consistency, consistency. Is that it? It's a... big part of it it's a huge part of it i would say because there's people online that are doing well who are putting out crap but they're consistently putting out that crap right because a lot of the time we look at people and we're like oh my god like how

it's that consistency. It's that showing up all the time. And I know people are like, oh my God, tell me something else. But like, if you don't master the consistency, if you're not going to show up religiously for the next however many years without expecting this huge payout. You've already lost. Let's be real. It's not even a consistency.

Accountability is the most important thing you can have as a creator. Come on. If you're not accountable to yourself. Talk about it. Then you won't do anything. It doesn't matter if it's consistent or not. You can be consistent and not accountable in terms of the content. Yeah. Yeah. But I think Joe said a really important thing. too, like you said.

consistency but also the expectation too like that's the important part expectation yeah because you said like you have to not expect it right then and there people be consistent for a week it's like where's my million dollars yep yep and that's why people usually fall off because they're like oh my god i can't believe i have to show up to do this

over and over again and I'm not like on a yacht or driving my favorite car like I still drive my Honda Civic paid off and I don't see I don't I don't like I haven't pictured Not yet, but, like, of course, in the future, maybe I'll have another car, but I have no desire to go and... Why would you if it gets you from point A to B? It still works fine. You know, the tints are still on there. Yeah. And, like, you know what I mean? I'm good. Yeah. Like, so...

A lot of people are expecting the, you know, the G-Wagon the first year because we have all these 19 year olds on TikTok talking about how they made a million off of videos. Right. So people get this very skewed. version of like what success looks like and how long it takes and it takes a minute most times yeah unfortunately unfortunately for a lot of people how long do you think it took you before you realize like okay i'm actually in there

Just in regards to Daddy's Kitchen or just... I guess that was your answer for both. For Daddy's Kitchen, I think it took me... Daddy's Kitchen happened fast. Yeah. Daddy's Kitchen blew. There was a meteor cries, honestly. There was no transition. It just went from zero to 100 absolutely real quick. We started the channel in April. By November, we had surpassed 100,000. subscribers.

That's old YouTube style right there. Yeah, because right now... Try doing that. Yeah, exactly, right? But even that, I think, is more so just like a familiarity thing. You get to a certain point when you're so big sometimes in certain niches.

People don't feel the need to subscribe to you because I could just search for you real quick and easy. So like there's tons of non followers. I'm sure that you guys see percentage wise every month. So yeah. So luckily you don't get paid based off of subscribers. Facts.

and i think a lot of people stress subscribers and yes i get it because it's like all those people will get your notification or we hope that they all get your notification um but the reality is is like it's people who are rushing to make

I'll curry goats for their man. Yeah. Yeah. You know, who don't really care about being a part of your community. They don't even know there's a community to be a part of. And that's, that's the sweet spot of YouTube is like creating content that like is evergreen, evergreen that people need.

They don't really care about your life. But then the people who do subscribe are. There are people who are like, you guys are a part of our family. Every Sunday we put you guys on. It doesn't matter if we're clicking the same thing. You have to be on there.

You know, you get the best of both worlds. It's that routine that I talk about all the time. You guys are a safeness now in terms of cooking. People hear your voice and they feel like, all right, I'm in the kitchen. I'm doing my thing. This is what I'm familiar with. What would you rather? Hmm. Hmm. Poor question. Poor question. Quick YouTube rise. Who got one? Quick YouTube rise to 100,000 in a month. Or a slow rise to a million in 10 years. If you knew you, like, it's only one or the other.

And you may not get to a 10 million or a million rather with the quick rise, but for sure you'll get there with the 10 years. I would do the 10 years. Facts. See, this is an experienced creator right here. I would do the 10 years. yeah for sure because there's so much to learn in that in that space of time and there's gonna so many things are gonna happen in that 10 years that like you just can't like

You can't get it in a minute. I want you to say that because I think when we talk about people saying, oh, consistency and like, oh, why isn't it happening right away? You don't want it to happen right away. Oh my God, the journey is so much better. Learning in front of people. is horrible. There's no grace. There's no grace given. Grace people have that? You must know. There's no grace in learning in public. I don't know what's worse. I don't know what learning in front of people is worse or...

popping and then trying to get back popping in front of people. I think the second one is worse because if you have a huge rise in the beginning, it's okay, you're that guy who did that. And then now we're trying to see you climb back or like retain the audience. It depends on how you fell off.

I'll say that. Really? Brother nature. There's no coming back. Yeah. It depends on, I feel like it depends on two things. Your niche and how you fell off. If your niche is something that can be replicated or nobody really cares. Like who really cares about talking to a dare every day? Let's be very real. We are doing it because we're like, this is so cool. This guy is cool with this dare. Then you find out he's a bit of a dickhead. People are like.

Well, there goes the whole appeal of the nice guy talking to the deer. Right. Nish gone. Gone. Nobody cares about the deer. Yeah. We just thought this was special for this one little thing. If somebody else did it, we'd have been like, you're copying my boy. We don't even want to see this. It's because it's not about that. But if it was somebody doing basketball tricks, you wouldn't care how many people are doing it.

So the niche that really depends and how you fell off. If you fell off in a way where brother nature, honestly, it's not his fault. He started winning in public. People don't like that. The hate is strong, bro. The hate is strong. Gets beat up in a sandwich shop. Now, every time he posts, people go, you think we don't remember?

you know how crazy that is it's been like seven years and people leave that man alone he tweets and people go it's high school you think we forgot the internet of high school It really is high school. It's like, you thought we forgot you shot on the bus, bro? This is the little power, like just in high school, where it's like you see people who had a lot of power.

The power was wielded through gossip and bullying. Where are those people now? They're wicked and sour, bro. They're nurses. That's gonna be real. They're nurses and cops. They're nurses and cops. They say that nurses are usually the bully from the high school. Because they have... They're losing their power. They weren't the hot one. They weren't the cool one. They weren't the ones people were like, yo, their personality, I need to be around you. They were people who...

bullied people, talked shit about people behind their back, and that was their power in high school. So now when they leave high school and they get another job, I need some power. Not all nurses, guys. Obviously not all nurses. The Filipino ones are great. I was going to say, the Filipino ones are evil in high school? 75% of the job market is good. But the ones that get into it for the wrong reasons...

If you ask, especially a lot of patients, they'll tell you how cold these nurses are. They'll tell you. Ask black women who get some sort of surgery and aftercare. How cold these nurses be, bro. Because these people used to be bullies. This is their one place to wield a little power. That's actually crazy. And now it's actually worse because the people that are coming into nursing, not to shit on them, but the people...

Once upon a time, people were kind of like, you know, at least 50% of them were like, oh, like I'm passionate about taking care of people. Now people are just literally there for the bag. Just to check. Literally. Check, benefits, and stability. We, I'm proud of you. for dropping some of that weight and taking care of yourself. Thank you. Because I'm right behind you. Because, bro, if we have to rely on these niggas. Nope, not doing it.

Not doing it. I've, my girl works at a doctor's office. So now I know the full power of the healthcare system. These guys are shit. Say more. What do you mean? In terms of like a stressed out system, an outdated system, like you go to your doctor's office, they still have files behind them. In 2025, that's ridiculous. That's actually insane to me. That's insane. If I set this whole thing on fire, fam, you're cooked.

We're done. And then watching you go through them is hell. And then for you to memorize and put, like, the secretaries at doctor's office, please give them more. They don't pay them and they leave. they go through the most and they have to deal with the brunt of everybody everybody's sick everybody needs to see the doctor now now I don't care and then the doctors are so stressed out because it's like think of a

Think of it like a teacher with 50 students. 100%. And every day it's a new student. You have to have like, okay, so what's going on today? And sometimes you don't even know what's wrong with a student. Sometimes a student doesn't fucking know what's going on either. What's wrong? I don't know. Your turn. Yeah, no, it's ridiculous. Some things happened this week. A lot happened this week. Where do you want to start?

Brian McKnight being a horrible father. Still. If we're going to call him that word. Father. We could do. The Red Pill. I kind of want to start Red Pill, but not with this one with your boy, man. With who, Akash? Akash, man. Okay, so Akash Singh is a podcaster and stand-up comedian on a show called Flagrant. Okay. Let me set it up for you guys. He has famously spoken repeatedly about the fact that him and his wife were virgins when they got together. Huge selling point for him.

because he was very close to his Indian culture, respects it a lot. He wants to do things the right way. Cool. He has Fresh and Fit come on to the podcast. Fresh and Fit, as you know, from Twitter. Akash is 5'6". I need to know his height. I'm just letting you know. I think that does play a factor. It definitely does.

it often does fresh and fit yeah right fresh and fit obviously we know as the red pill podcast that is very trash and very horrible speak down a woman hate women very horrible that wasn't always Oh, wait. No, it's always been the case. No, no, no, no. I'm mixing them up. Fresh and Fit is not the two UK guys. No, no, no. That shit's in case. Damn. They get mixed up with them? That's tragic. That sucks. Damn. One slip. The brand. That's it. That's fucked. And they're the exact opposite.

So Fresh and Fit is Myron and... Fresh and Flippin' Fit. Yeah, exactly. As soon as I said Myron, there's no good guy named Myron. None. He was greedy as a kid. I can't stand them. You never liked that kid. My germs. Definitely one of those kids. Exactly. For the Fresher Fit, go on flagrant podcasts, right? And he kind of pages them.

He's like, I think what you guys do is childish. I think your whole narrative and your rhetoric is childish. What you guys say does not sound like men. You guys sound like boys. And you just page them, essentially, right? Respectfully, too. Especially when it's a guy that's married, they couldn't say anything to him. Because their whole thing is behind men getting married, getting the wife that they want.

Her not being a whore is huge for them. And so when they learned she was a virgin, they were like, oh, this guy's a goat. This guy's a goat. Can't fuck with him. Can't even say shit. I cannot. The tides turned. Big time. Over the past two weeks. They have recovered clips and recordings of her on TikTok and on her podcast with her best friend. This is Akash's wife. Yeah.

Talking about popping her pussy in college. Yeah. How she used to pop her pussy in white boy frats. Yeah. How she misses those days. She misses those days so bad. How she's yearning for an orgy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's also clips from her podcast where she's talking about her husband and how she doesn't really fight him.

How she can't masturbate to the thought of him. She could never do that. Her best friend said she masturbates to her own husband and that's the guy she pictures when she's masturbating. She said, oh, you're lucky. I could never do that. I could never. There's also a video of him re-proposing because he wants to renew their vows. He made the ring bigger. Got a bigger ring because he's much richer than when they first got married. Beautiful ring. Big pink diamond.

Beautiful ring. He does it in front of her family. They're on the beach. It's a nice setting. He says this nice long speech. He brings out the ring and you tell me what this means when a woman does this. Ring comes out. Oh, my God. What? Look at this. Did you guys know about this? Oh, my God. Look at this. Wow. Wow. Yikes. Wow. Yeah. Oh my God. Look at this husband comes in for a kiss. Oh my God. Oh my goodness. What does that mean in your, in your, uh,

She's not into him. She's not into him. Is there any way that maybe, I don't know, she's maybe overstimulated. Yeah. And she didn't want to have a kiss. Neurodivergence? Yeah, yeah. It's just too much, you know? No? I'm sorry. All I can think in my head is Dashwood. I'm sad. I'm sorry because... No, watching it was... Damn, Akash. Okay, maybe not. I shouldn't say that because, you know... I'm married now. Talk to them.

but I just can't imagine I can't imagine my husband shitting on us no I just can't imagine my husband coming and bringing me another ring or whatever and proposing to me and I'm concentrated on the ring. Well, that brings us to our next question. How did he do it? How did my husband do it?

How did he propose? Oh, so he said that we were going out for dinner. Okay. Said he wanted me to go out for dinner with him and he wanted it to be special like the whole week. He was like, oh, we're going to do something more fancy this time. How many years in are you guys at this point? Oh, we had only been dating nine months at this point. But remember, we're grown people. I have a great streak in my hair. When you know, you know. Yeah, we were dating nine months.

at the time like but that's not how long we knew each other like for a while he he was he was he was coming after the after the kid and i was stalling because i still thought trust issues trust issues but also i like yeah trust issues like i i someone had proposed in the past and i had to call off the wedding i wasn't interested in that relationship anymore and so i was kind of like

I don't know that I want to be someone's girlfriend. I don't know that I want to be with anybody. Like I was enjoying. What was the gap of time? Oh, so the gap of time was like four and a half years. And you still were like. Yeah. I respect it. I was like, I really enjoy being single. Like I still to this day when people are like, oh, I don't know if I'm like, take your time. Like I I'm someone who enjoy.

Enjoy my single life. It's very rare to hear a woman say she enjoys being alone. Oh, I love it. Yeah, solitude for me is amazing. So when people are like, oh, single life, I'm like. I love my partner. No, no. Right. I love my partner. And I would, I, I'm blessed to have my husband and it's amazing, but I won't lie. And I think he'd be okay to know. I wouldn't be okay without him, don't get me wrong. There you go. It is my choice to be with my husband. Absolutely. That's the thing.

I'm not with him because I feel like I need a husband and because I'm like dying without a husband. Life could be great single, but life is so much better with my husband. So, yeah. And I mean it. I truly do. And I have a great husband. But anyways, yeah. So he was like, oh, doing something special tonight? Yeah, we're doing something special tonight.

wear something a little fancy. I was like, okay, I like this. It's a little different. Yeah, put that nice shit on. Telling you to wear something fancy is hilarious. Don't you? I mean, but you know, more chill versus being more chill, you know.

and yeah he took me to this place he's like oh like i've been wanting to take you to this place brought me there uh we went up uh he's like i'm gonna go and just um i think he was saying that he was going to speak to the owner he knows a lot of people so i was like okay cool so

sitting at the table waiting. And then I'm like, but he's bright. It's been 10 minutes. Like, I'm like, this is so rude. Like, what's wrong with him? You know, I was getting annoyed. I was like, so a girl came over to me. She's like, oh, so sorry. Like. um because they're doing like photo shoots and stuff upstairs i think you are your boyfriend was saying that he um that you should come up take photos first and then

And then you'll come back for dinner. Smart with the play. I like this. And you didn't see it coming still. I'm like, the rooftop. I'm like, okay, cool. It's going to overlook the city. That could be cool. Why didn't he come down and get me? Why didn't he just come and get me? Yeah, I knew it. So I'm going, going. She's with me or whatever. And halfway up the stairs, I stop.

You knew while going. I was like... Oh, man. You're like, why is she walking me up the stairs? Why is she filming me? So I look back at her, and she's like... I'm like... I'm like, no. Give me your purse. Give me your purse. I'm like... oh yeah that's the moment give me the purse it's like oh it's like it just exactly and i'm like i i really did not see that coming and i went up there and then he had like it was candles and it was like it was looking

overlooking the city of Accra and there was a guitarist. Come on. And there he was waiting for me. And I was like, come up there right now. Yeah, went up there and he proposed. He's like, I don't want to do that. You're the coolest person I ever met in my life. That's fire. Did you cry? I did cry. i definitely did you did you both cry yeah he was you guys trod he cried i cried we cried

Yeah, he cried, and I could tell he was so nervous. Of course, you have to be. That's going to be the most nerve-wracking moment of a man's life. He was so nervous. You got to say the right thing. You got to remember her middle name. Can you imagine stuttering in the middle of that? Remember the right hand, the right finger. He was trying to hold it together. He really was trying to hold it together.

Yeah, I can imagine. That's crazy. For you, I mean, how do you not like fart on yourself and shit when you're walking to the person? Oh my God. I couldn't even breathe. I was just like having these really shallow short breaths. And I was just like, Sasha, just enjoy it. That's when you can hear your heart. Experience it.

And yeah, I don't think I saw the ring. Bringing me back to what we were talking about. I don't even think I realized what the ring was like. See? Until... See? I love that. Like, maybe after we had taken all the photos and we were dabbing the faces and everything. And then I was... through the photos like when he was just like talking to me and be like okay they're done taking photos i was like no i was like wow

That's amazing. That's how it should be though. That's really how it should be. When I saw that video, I was so concerned. He should be concerned. Because I'm like, brother, how can you not see it?

Or maybe he does, which is even scarier. I think that's exactly what's happening. I think he's volunteering at this point. He's not a victim. He's a participant. Right, right. A lot of guys see it, but still like, because I think there's a lot of men who... really use their woman as like a trophy, a trophy. Truly, like they're not actually looking for like a partner in life, like someone who has you down. They would rather someone who looks good, who makes them feel like they're the man.

Rather than someone who's like, you know, their best friend. You might have just described this situation to a T because she is a very pretty girl. I would have assumed. And I'm sure she probably makes him feel like the man. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But yeah, no, it's just.

Because I'm not, listen, she's a big advocate for, you know, your man should pay for your life and fund your life and whatnot. And I'm not against that at all. But it's when it gets like, when you start embarrassing your man. on account of that. Like, there's a video of him in her walking closet, which he has exited his clothes from because there's no room for her clothes, apparently.

So he has to use the guest bedroom's closet, right? Mind you, she doesn't like her clothes touching. So she's asking for more. Not asking. complaining, whining, and damn near on the verge of tears about getting more closet space. This is his choice. That he should build. Like she literally has like five dresses. And he pushed the dresses.

To show how much space is on the rack. She's like, I don't want my clothes touching it. I mean, you choose the person that you spend the rest of your life with. But do you get fooled? Yeah, but...

you can walk away. I think there's a few things at play here, bro. I think it's hard for people to walk away. No, there's a few things at play because think about it, bro. As men, you're like, you're almost wired to chase, right? And I think some of us don't really know when to turn that off. And I think Akash is still chasing his wife.

You know what I mean? Where he's like, I'll convince her. I'll get her. I'll get her. I'll win her over with love and things. Yeah, you propose. The ring is bigger now. She's still not fucking with you. What else? But the thing is, women do love the chase, even within their marriage. But it's not that kind of chase. You know what I mean? It's not that. It's like we should already know it's me and you, babe. It's me and you till the wheels fall all the way off. But...

Show me that you want me a little bit. You know what I mean? Somebody said that they treat the relationship like a competition. Like, who can treat who better? I love that. And I'm like, that's kind of hard. That is really hard. You should be thinking about it that way, technically. But, like...

I think a lot of people just go with the flow of life and kind of, yeah. And life that happens, it happens. And, but this is why you have your life partner because you're supposed to be able to go through those moments where that is happening. Yeah. You know, it's not going to be.

always like because this is the most perfect relationship ever no that's not the reality of things but that what he's going through that's a choice he is choosing to do that yeah i feel bad for him but let's like at the same and then i feel bad for him too i feel bad for him but it's like brah read the room you're a comic that's what we do

And I can't believe that he's not because he's so intuitive in other ways when it comes to the stand-up. Yeah, you're right. In other areas for sure. But I think for this area, this is definitely a blind spot of his. Which is why he was a virgin for so long and everything else. You're so sweet. But I think that also plays into it. The virgin thing. I think he hasn't gotten deep enough into a relationship.

to know how dynamics can shift and that there's no like, oh, power of love. We found each other versions. We're going to be together forever. You're never going to think about another guy. I'm never going to think about another girl. Yeah. It's probably time for them to go their separate ways. His next wife will probably be the person that loves him well.

And I'm not an advocate for people breaking up and whatever. I am when they're virgins, man. I would never date a virgin. I'm sorry. But again, like, see, like, you think that the relationship, anyone that I know. who got together from when they were young. They were both virgins together. Some kind of.

Something happens. That's what I'm saying. Something crazy happens. I don't like the curiosity component of virginity. When you're young and you're virgins, that's fine. Yeah, no, that's cool. But even that is kind of scary as well because then you get older. and start wondering what you've missed. And me, there's a myriad of factors. First of all, don't want somebody that's clinging to me for their life because that's what virgins that lose it do.

Then I don't want you to have no experience in having sex. Period. Because you don't know what...

You want a whore? Yeah, I want a reformed whore. I want someone that's experienced, that knows how to separate certain things from the bedroom. I don't think people who have never had sex... know that you can dirty talk and then just be normal afterwards they think it's gotta be all like I gotta be me here and there I gotta be me it's like little things man little things that I'm like and the curiosity is like the biggest thing for me I don't want you ever

thinking ah what did i miss out on and then start resenting me because you didn't live your life yeah that's funny it's actually that's a fear of mine as well to be honest of like even with marriage but once you get married it's like your wife's gonna be like 45 or something and it's like

I feel like I just, I don't know who I am anymore. Oh, no. 50, 55. Anything above 50, I'm cool with questions. You're cool with questions? Yeah. Because then we can venture into swinging life. We can start swinging. We've been fucking for, what, 20 years at this point? You're itching for that then. Itching? Yeah. Feening.

I would definitely swing when I'm older. Oh, yeah? No, hell no. You've been having sex with the same person for so long, man. Let's just switch it up. I don't need to see a nigga cracking my wife. You don't need to watch it either. I don't need to hear it, bro. You don't need to see it or watch it. Nah. You don't need to hear it? You don't need to see it?

You can't go over your ego enough to let her have her time, brother? Never, nigga. Let her just enjoy herself? No. With another nigga. No, I feel like once you start letting other people into your tings, things just get... God, it's 60. Not at 60. That's what I'm saying. Not at 60. We've been second down. That's the problem. Second down way too long. The kids undrained us. We have to work hard for the tuition. So you're saying you're.

OK, you think you would be OK. I know. I know. Let's play it through. I already have removed so much ego that by the time I'm 70, 60. Oh, go ahead. Go to town. Exactly. Because. Yeah. Go to town. He's prepping himself to be a cuck. That's crazy. A cuck is somebody that just watches, no?

Yeah. That's Joe Budden. I'm not Joe Budden. Oh, yeah. I will be involved. Okay. I will be involved. I think it'll just be different because, bro, like, her shit's going to be different than your shit. Yeah. You're old. Yeah.

you can't fuck the same way you used to when you're 25 but not 25 year old you is fucking your wife prove it and the thing about it is they men always see here we go women always think let's talk about women thinking they can always handle women we we can handle it way better because you guys tend to already be

all over the place from times and times. She's like, we can't handle it because y'all be fucking anyway. We're so used to that. No, definitely men cannot handle it as easy as women. We're so used to that narrative with men that... Even if there are women who are like, I'll walk away. Most women, especially when they're in that age, they're like, this guy, like, again, you know what I mean? Do you want to deal with his problems? Go ahead. Right. Whereas you guys.

If you ever see somebody bend over your 50 year old wife, watch. 60. 60. 60. 50's too low. 50's too low. 50's too low. We're still spry. We're still low. We'll see. A young 30 year old fucking my wife. Who said anything about a young? Whoa! Who said young? Wait, he's gonna be old nigga? Yeah!

We got to be on the same plane. Hold on. Wait, wait. You changed the game. No, I didn't change the game. I never once said he was 30. You said he was 30. Your fantasy. I'm thinking about it for real. It's your fantasy. She's 30. She's fucking an old.

Nigga older than me. Nah, you can't do that. Yes, the swingers are old people. See how the rules start to get easy? Swinging and swinging. There are rules. Of course you can't. Swinging and swinging with no rules? There's got to be rules. I guess so, but I just, bro, I imagine. Snacks. little breaks hors d'oeuvres have grapes gotta have an intermission yeah yeah yeah juice boxes sponsored by boston pizza shoes on and shit

Yo, there's this one white woman that went online. She was like 40-something. And she's flying to a swingers party.

I think we... In like Houston or something like that. I think we covered this here. And she gets there and she's showing the house and all the... Bro. It's just all white women and all black guys, right? Wait. And then she gets halfway through. She's like, oh, this is the food. This is the catering. And they had fried rice.

Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Tacos. I'm like, who's fucking on the phone? Exactly. What the fuck? I remember that. Y'all eating beans against an orange? Gaseous fucking. At that age too. They're fucking pudding, bro. Gas smell orgies without gas. He's like, excuse my stomach. I'm out of here, bro. It's crazy, yeah. Old ass niggas can't hold their bowels, man. I'm smelling crazy. I do have to apologize for killing one of the new boys.

Yeah, Ben J's not dead. We got to apologize. My bad, Ben J. I got you mixed up with Ben Gay. My bad, my boy. Also, we had to apologize for trusting ChatGPT. ChadGBT gave me all that information. You think I was looking up niggas' bios? Come on, man. I'm sorry. You did start the conversation.

They're coming for you guys. You did that. You started it. Yeah. And you guys tried to ambush me. I'm going to try to ambush me online. I woke up in the middle of the evening. And I'm looking. This is me looking over my invisible glasses.

I was so shook I saw that tweet and I was like Oh this is gonna go somewhere Yep I was like this is gonna go somewhere I can feel it I knew somebody was coming for it I knew somebody was coming for it I didn't even respond to people I went on Twitter a couple hours later And they were going off on it And I was like yeah I knew Yeah I knew there was something I knew it was gonna piss people off

I knew Trey and Jay were coming. I'm like, perfect. It all lined up. Listen, I said what I said. What say you about this? Mary J. Blige versus Beyonce. In a versus. In a versus. Is this something that's actually going to be happening? No, I'm just hypothetical. Someone brought it up and said that Beyonce would be surprised that Mary J. Blige could hold.

Yeah. Might win. Yeah. I could see a world where Mary J. Bryant wins. I could see a world where she wins. What are you talking about, guys? I could see a world where she wins. But I still think Beyonce is... The winner? I think you underestimate the culture. I think you underestimate the culture factor. You're thinking about popularity and hits. Think about the culture. the culture all right but what is the problem like what is versus versus is like it's how how how does it work

Well, Versus is usually performance-based as well, and it's 20 songs versus 20 songs. Okay. One song each, and then they switch order after 10 songs. Bro, I'm telling you that there's a lot of songs that will have people feeling away when Mary drops. I'm just saying. I had to mention what her music means to people. There is a nostalgic factor and also that too of like, oh, nah, this is a different song. There's a lot more...

There's a lot of feelings associated to Mary's music, I think, than Beyonce. So I guess I'm really thinking about it, but bro, it's Beyonce. There's a lot of feelings connected to Beyonce's music as well. Let's be real. And these are both queens. We're not dissing any of them at all. I'm just saying it's interesting to look at a quote-unquote pop megastar compared to a hood star. See what I'm saying? For example, who's a pop...

megastar that we could put up against Ashanti. A pop megastar. A pop megastar. Like a girl that's like... I don't want to say Selena Gomez. I want to say... Who's Selena Gomez? Selena Gomez getting washed. Against? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely washed against Ashanti. I don't think Selena's washing anyone. She's washing some people. Who?

Ariana Grande vs Shanti would be an interesting one. I think that would be an interesting one. I get why you wouldn't, but I'm just saying for a hypothetical. It wouldn't be nice though. Ariana would watch. I think Ariana would win. I don't think it would be a wash. Because it goes right back again. Fair, fair, fair. I'm talking for black people. It would be a win, not necessarily a wash. For black people, it wouldn't be a wash. Okay. What's she playing a baby?

Yeah. Next. You see what I'm saying? True. Mary J. Blige, what's Beyonce playing for real love? Right. What's Beyonce playing for be without you? Oh, man. Family affair. By the time people start getting in their feels, Mary's winning. That's what I'm saying. And also, picks are very important. We've seen Fabulous pick the worst songs. Oh, okay. So it would also depend on what songs they choose. You're right.

I can't think of Beyonce songs. That's why Mary would lose, because Mary would try to pick some new songs. There are heavy Beyonce songs. It just feels different, though. Yeah? Because I feel like when we get in our true, true feels with Beyonce, I think it's Destiny's Child.

Facts. Do you get what I mean? For an R&B feel. Like if we want to feel that nostalgia that maybe we're pulling from Mary straight off the top, we have to go into Destiny's Child. Because then you got to reach for one plus one, Halo. But then, you know what the difference is for me?

Beyonce sounds very polished. I was going to say. Whereas Mary sounds very real. You get the grit. Her paint sounds light. The conviction in Mary's voice and music compared to Beyonce's. And she smoked crack, man. That's the biggest thing. Who did? Mary. May he smoke crack? Yeah, bro. Are we sure? Is this a Ben J? Hold on, hold on. Is this a Ben J? Did she not? She smoke creels. Where did this come from? I've never heard of this. You've never heard of that? No. What? My fault.

I really thought it was true. I'm so sorry. You can't do that. This is way worse than Ben J. I really thought she saw crack like that. But why? I don't know. I think Mero said that. This has got to be true. Just be saying anything. No. Mary J. Bloss did not smoke crack. My apologies. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. This is the last episode. You get some wrong sometimes. You know what I mean? Mary Hush. Not gonna cry? What's Beyonce playing it at?

I'm sorry. I'm going down. Yes. It's going to be a long night for Beyonce. Beyonce. I wouldn't say a long night. After 10, I think that's where it gets a little hazy for Mary. I feel like Beyonce could play resentment. If she's going to do Not Gonna Cry. Resentment, she could play yes. If. Yeah. But again, again. Brown eyes. Isn't if Destiny Child? Yeah.

Right. Yeah. So is that fair that she can pull that? You know what I just went over the other day? And I know we talked about this on the pod probably a couple months ago or something, but that B-Day album. I don't think she's top down. In terms of like what it did. Yeah. Like Renaissance is probably my favorite Beyonce album. But B-Day is her, my beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy. Deja Vu, Get Me Body, Sugar Mama. Freak Em Dress. Ring the Alarm.

Kitty Cat. See, and you're not even reading the deluxe. Yeah, Green Lights. The deluxe, she added three more hits. Not songs. Hits. I was on the deluxe. That's why we like. Look at what the deluxe had that the other one didn't. Okay. And when you read those songs, you're like, what? Beautiful Liar. I don't like that song anymore. Beautiful Liar. Pop Pop. Her and Shakira. I don't like that song anymore. Irreplaceable. Amor Gitano. I'm not familiar with these songs. And then Listen.

Listen is a huge song. I don't know it. What? Huge. Listen. I am alone at the crowd. Oh, this is Oye, Spanish version. I'm weak. So I thought it was like the too fast to free. It's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My fault. I was like, this is not, I don't know. I just think it's going to be a long night. But where else can we go? Where do you want to go next? Let's go. Let's go Black Boy Max. Oh, God. and um so okay set the stage for you black boy max streamer he produces songs on stream with rappers

Incredible talent. Yeah. Really, really dope. Really, really dope. He's nominated for a Grammy off one of the songs that he made in his room on stream. Okay. Really dope, right? Young guy. Probably like 21, 22 years old. Yeah. Very young dude. He's in the streets promoting Screamer of the Year that he needs votes for. And he's also promoting that he's been nominated for a Grammy, right? Trying to get his publicity up. You know how they do those campaigns, those Grammy campaigns or whatever.

So he's in the street and a young lady walks up to him with a group of people and she just walks into the stream unannounced and kind of says, what's going on here? What do you got going on? Who are you? And she prefaces it off top. I'm from America's Next Top Model. Right off the top. Okay? Already. Odd. And what season was she on? Remember? Who knows? Yeah. Because I don't care.

She then proceeds to ask him, what do you got going on? What is this? What is this all about? He's like, yeah, I'm promoting my song. I've been nominated for a Grammy. I'm also promoting Scream of the Year award. She's like, okay, okay. I see you screaming black excellence and everything like that. I wanted to see what you had going on. Should I show you to my followers? He's like, yeah, sure. Why not?

She pulls up her phone. She's like, hey, I'm here with, what's your name? And he says his name. He promotes his stuff or whatever. And she's like, okay, nice, nice, nice. You want to give me a smooch? And he's like, no, no, no. Sorry, I can't do that. Sorry, sorry, I can't do that. Because he has a girlfriend.

But also random people be asking him for kisses and all types. He's, he's a huge streamer. So like, I'm not going to just kiss any stranger that just walked up to me. So she, right after he says that, I say, I respect it. I respect it. And he goes about his day. She goes about her day. She then gets on the internet. Let me put it on the Summer Jam screen. She's also from Cycle 4.

America's Next Top Model. This is from Forever. 2003? This is from Forever. Yeah, yeah. This young man. I was genuinely seeing because he was so thirsty. But I wanted to support him. He was yelling black excellence and Martin Luther King did all this for us to vote. I'm trying very hard not to use the N word right now. I'm still a professional. Okay. A professional what? You're on Instagram. What's going on? I just want to say this. Should they have more questions? First of all.

I don't give a damn about a live stream. I don't care that there were 20,000 people on the live. Hi, what's going on? I've been in the industry since before any of you people were even born. You think I give a damn about you guys opinion? I don't. I really genuinely try to support him. And this is what happens when you're an arrogant person. That's a Spider-Man meme. At herself, in the mirror. What are you talking about? No, it's that meme where he's like...

He's quoting it himself. I'm so lost. First, I don't know what this was in response to. I think people were calling her a weirdo for starting off a conversation with saying, hi, I'm from America's Next Top Model. Oh. I think people are like, why did you start? But it's also like, when's the last time America's Next Top Bottle been on TV? Was that not my first question? Because I was like, oh, maybe it's playing in the States. No. No, it's from years ago.

a year new okay like new money new money is not a flex old money is a flex because the reason why the money got old is because they knew how to spend hate when people just repeat and regurgitate things they've heard

Dog. When it doesn't even fit the context, what does him having new money have to do with anything right now? It's just embarrassing and weird. This is so embarrassing. It's okay. You fucked up. She's 40 years old, by the way. She's what? She's 40 years old. Of course she is. I feel like I remember her face when I was small. She looks great. No, really pretty.

They knew how to invest it. They knew what to do with it. So your new fame, his Instagram, literally, I don't even know who gave him the idea. Do you know the connotation behind the word black? And I don't know why this is my favorite part So your new fame his Instagram literally I I don't even know who Gave him the idea. Do you know the connotation behind the word plaque? The connotation behind the word plaque. Mind you, he makes music to get what?

I don't know if this is maybe a different kind of plaque that you're talking about. Maybe it's a different one. But the first thing I thought of, because I don't think he has any real plaques, was plaque on your teeth, okay? You maybe want to understand the connotation and the vibration that certain words carry through society. The vibration of the word plaque.

That's when I turned this off. Then I saw another video. She continued. This one's probably more embarrassing. Top of the morning to you. This is the next morning. I'm going to say this to Black Boy and your entire your team because i walked up to you with two witnesses okay after his fumble of i mean just complete lack of humility and and

lack of a lot of stuff okay um i walked up to you mr videographer after even offering yo ass a job um i don't care what he's paying i don't care what he's paying you come on i asked you Very clearly in layman's terms very plain English to not use that footage It's a live stream The stream is live. He told her when she got in it, it's a live stream. She walked in involuntarily. Nobody knew you. Delete it. Asked you. Delete it right now. Delete me from that screen. Use AI.

Reverse time to leave me from that stream. I don't even know this guy. I literally am running an empire right now. She's literally running an empire. I still. I don't have X and don't even have the time to log in and sign up. She doesn't have the time to log in or sign up. We made two videos about this. I walked. Three. After his little outburst, he probably don't even date black women.

And I said to you guys... See? His little... I walked up to him after his little outburst. He don't even date... What is the correlation? Bro, there's no link with this. Mind you, girlfriend... Very black. Just throwing shit at the wall. Please don't use that footage. And I don't know what collegiate level you guys are at if you guys went to college or whatever.

But I asked you not to use that footage. So now she only values the minds of people who went to college. That's the only way I can value what you have to say. Okay. Got it, but out of everybody there you talked to a lot of people we heard you a mile away that was the only footage that you used and I verbally told you not to use it. It's the only footage that got clipped. I have so many things going on right now that I don't have time to take you to court, but I dare you. For what?

I dare you to try me. No, ma'am. Because now you are taking up my time. This three minutes that it's taken to post this, I could have been making money. Nobody asked you to do this. I don't think I've... I've honestly, I've seen a lot of people online that are deplorable. I don't think I've disliked someone quicker and deeper in my life from two videos without context.

I hate her. I felt that. I felt that. I hate her. I felt that and then I immediately felt bad. I feel bad for whoever's in her life. That has to endure her. She is exhausting and idiotic. There's nothing worse than someone who used to be famous. Not even famous. Almost. Used to almost be famous. But she's running an empire. Yeah. Okay. The amount of dumb things. I don't think I see someone say so many dumb things that they thought they were saying smartly. Yeah. I see people do that a lot.

I've never seen it to this extent. Hers is extreme though. She's extreme. Like this is going to live on the internet forever. You are forever going to be embarrassing. What are you taking me to court for? Take him to court, FIWA. What are you going to say? What is the charge, Your Honor? I didn't like it. She wanted the attention. It was just really embarrassing. She must be down bad. She got to be down atrocious.

She is. She definitely is. I feel a swing to right wing. Coming for her. I feel it. I feel it. And that's the thing about these young black boys. Blacks. I feel a swing to right wing, man. Because that is absolutely nuts. And throwing in the you don't date black women thing too. Come on, bro. That's nasty. Out of seemingly nowhere. Just threw it out of nowhere. Just, you know, sitting out there. Let me see what sticks. Yeah.

And I heard he does bad things. I feel like she was grabbing for. That's what it feels like. She was like grabbing for anything that she could potentially. You don't have a college degree. You're arrogant. You have no plaques. You have no plaques. You don't know the word plaque or the definition and connotation of vibration. Vibration. The vibration. Shout out my key mark. Vibration. Of the plaque. Come on, man.

People don't realize the power of saying nothing. Just, you know what I mean? Just nothing. Nobody would have remembered you did that embarrassing shit on the stream in the first place. Exactly. If you just humble yourself or if you just came online and be like, yo, you know what? My bad. I look stupid as fuck. My bad, guys. 100%. You know how many more fans you get right there? Have you seen anyone fall or trip over something that's on the street? Oh, yeah. And they make a scene about it?

Like, oh, who's that? Who pooped in there? You know what I mean? He could have just kept walking. It would have been fun. She's doing exactly that, bro. This is, bro. Oh, Kenya. Oh, my God. That just got me hot all over again. I want to fight something. This is probably the most amazing thing that's happened to her since.

It is. 100% it is. We've never seen her mentions like this. It's got to be. It's got to be. But speaking of amazing things, you're on Office Movers. Woodrake. That segue. Yes, yes, yes. I was looking for it. You fucking smoked that role. Talk to me about how you came about being on the show. How did you even find out Drake was in the scene? Okay, so actually, so Trey was calling me.

he was like you know what that is okay i'd let them know treo calling me he was like i know that you were open to auditioning for a role um if there was a role because i did kind of drop a bug in his ear saying like, hey, like if ever in the future there's a role that you feel like I fit, let me know. This was season one? Right. Was it season one? Season one I said that to him. Before or after it came out? After it came out. Okay.

i saw it i watched it i was just like bro you guys killed this i'm so proud like i'm just i mean regardless i'm proud but i was just like i can't believe that I can, but I can't believe that from YouTube days to this, like, this is incredible, you know? So, and it inspired me because I was just like, wow, like, you know, I went to school for theater.

i always had this like dream of going back to it but i was like i know that i'm gonna return to it in my 30s because in my 20s like so many other things started popping off for me so i had to like choose kind of you know Acting, Khloe Kardashian. So many blessings. So many things are happening right now. It's kind of crazy, guys. And I've been pushing my hair back.

um god is good and yeah so i i was like you know what i'm going to not be nervous about putting myself out there and i'm gonna message trey and i'm gonna say trey if and if At any point in time, there's a role and you think that I could fit it. I would love to audition. Yeah. Left it. Left it there. He's like, cool. I mean, thank you. And, you know, the time came and he called me up and he was like, hey.

me and jay want you to audition for this role um the team wants to see if you're a fit so you know give us a tape we're gonna send you the um the script you do your read And we'll let you know. Have you acted before this? Yes, I went to school for theater. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. So... Have you done the self-tape before this? I have done like... self-tape but like in school like for school you know yeah it's been a it's been well over well over

10 years. They're not easy. Yeah, I've seen people do it and I'm like, I could, I would be so embarrassed. Yeah, I'd get back into your childlike imagination because there's nobody there. There's nobody there. Other than the person probably pitching lines back behind the camera. Exactly.

um and so yeah so i i did it i sent it in i was like i don't know like i was like i don't know like i don't know if they're gonna like i don't know if they're gonna like this i enjoyed filming it yeah but i was like i don't know if they're gonna like this and um when they got back to me, they're like, everybody's obsessed. Everyone's obsessed. Everyone loves it. And so I'm like, okay, what does that mean? And so they're like, you know, they let me know that, yeah, you're, you're our Cynthia.

And then they gave me, you know, another call like soon after that. And they were kind of like, so we're going to tell you something. That you have to keep under wraps. That you have to keep under wraps. And like seriously, like you literally cannot say anything to anyone. That's even like you can't say nothing to nobody. I was like, okay. She's calling her husband in the room. I was like, okay, let's.

What is it? He's like, so your co-star is going to be Jersey Drake. And what did you say? I was like, I was like, what? Yeah. They were like, yeah. I was like, yeah. As soon as he heard that breath, he's like, maybe we shouldn't. When we're thinking about it, we're tossing around the idea. Nothing's permanent, right? I was like, are you kidding me? Yeah.

They're like, yeah, like, you know, he's coming on board. First of all, I was really happy for them, the fact that he was on board. But then I was like, wait, so wait, you're telling me that me and him. I'm going to be in another Sam scene. Did you not understand the depths of what the scene? I didn't under, well, because I had read for the part, I was like, oh, so he's Lennox. Did they have the hug in there and everything?

I yeah I think yeah they did have the hug but I didn't know the extent of the hug like it wasn't until funniest part. Low key? Yo, I don't think people are talking about it enough. That hug when you guys are spinning and doing the waddle? Yo, you only do that when you know someone, you have to see someone in a minute. yeah so when we first got on set and we were doing it like i i just thought it was like a brief hug like i was like oh

And they're like, no, we want this hug to be like one of them awkward long swaying side to side. I was like, wow, like. I'm here living the girls. Here I am. I'm like, you know, going back and forth into this hug and doing it again. doing it again. Make sure you check your tweets during the Kendrick battle. First of all, you were riding though. I'm a Drake rider. Yeah, you're right. I know. And it's kind of hard. It's kind of hard. It's kind of sad, but

it's kind of hard to be a Drake fan, even in Toronto, I feel like right now, because there's a lot of haters here. There's a lot of Drake haters. And I think it's all a part of just... I don't know. I think a lot of it is rooted in, and I hate to say it because it's sad, but trying to be blacker. There's a certain validity to... liking certain artists over other artists that the culture deems you as blacker. And if you support another artist that's not that black.

You might be anti-black. We don't know about you. Yeah, we're not sure. So it's like, it's weird how that works. Yeah, for me, fuck all that. Sorry. Straight up. My thing is, there's people who don't even... I'll quit Kendrick from the States, from LA, whatever, from India, from wherever, from Nigeria. Let's talk about that. There's people who don't even mess with him, but because they're from LA or they're from the States, they're riding with him. Oh yeah.

I expect that from them. I expect that. I expect that from Toronto as well. I do. And that's why I'm trying to say that, like, I feel like Toronto needs to tighten up. And for me, it's more important that we do that because there's a scarcity.

We already know how difficult it was for us to cross over there anyway. So the fact that we have a few artists that are crossed over and you guys just want to shit on them while they have flourishing artists and they have a million artists over there, they don't have to worry about it. on that and they're still writing I always say if I was Drake Toronto wouldn't hear another

Mo wouldn't pick up a mic over here again. Yeah, yeah. It would be dark times for you guys. I wouldn't mention a six one more time. I wouldn't perform another day. You wouldn't hear a six, six, six. Bro, the way I feel like people switch up and act. i don't know i don't want it to be i don't want this to be like all like you know but i everybody who knows me knows that i've loved jake since i was a kid so this scene meant a lot yeah it meant a lot and so

Yeah, it was just really cool. It was just a really cool experience. And, you know, I'm just I'm just grateful because I called it 10 years prior. I said, I'm going to work with you.

And ten years later, nine years later specifically, it happened. Let's go. Did you think it was going to be like in a styling capacity before? No. Like I didn't know what it was going to be. I remember standing up in that line outside of, I can't even remember what the place was. It was when he was dropping views and he was.

You know, he popped up somewhere downtown and he was giving out T-shirts to people. And there was a lineup of hundreds of people, if not thousands of people. And I was just behind in the line or whatever. I literally heard about it. I heard it on the radio. I called up my cousin. I was like, we need to leave you. We were both at work. I'm like, I'm telling them I have to go. Apparently Drake is popping up somewhere or whatever. This is me. I think I'm like 20, 21 at the time.

And I'm like, we need to leave right now. Bro, we got from Brampton. to downtown core in 28 minutes god well that you could do it back then you could now the traffic you could do that back then right in 28 minutes okay we stood up in that line and by the time we turn around there's like freaking however many people behind us we're going in the line people are pushing whatever when we get up there to our like to see him and he's handing out the t-shirts and whatnot

I'm like, this is your chance, Sasha. Tell him you're going to work with him. Tell him you're going to work with him one day. So I'm literally, first of all, my head back is dry. My hair is pulled up. I don't even look cute. And those days there when you're younger, you feel like you think of Drake. It's like you love Drake.

for motivation's sake, for music's sake, for Toronto's sake. But also you're like, he's like your, your love interest. Like he was like the guy that like, you just love him. Especially back then he was definitely more of a lover man. Yeah. And so I'm like, I'm going to work with you one day. And I remember him looking at me like, he's like, where you work now? Forever 21? I'm at the pickle barrel. What was your last job? My last job was the pickle barrel.

I worked for the Pickleboro for 13 years. Holy. Wow. When did you stop? I stopped, I want to say, two years after the pandemic because, like, my boss was like, Sasha, like. Daddy's gone. You should probably just, like.

Get out of here. Like, she's like, you have so much going on. But they supported me so much. That's fine. Like, I'd be at the back of the- I can't believe you're doing all that and working at the Pickle Bear at the same time. I had to. That's how I paid for everything. That's how I paid for- everything like waiting tables is like they see the glamour yeah but they see the glitz man it was waiting tables that

allowed me to do everything every brand that i started every trip that i took it was server dollars that got me there took me a long time to learn that you need your nine to five to support your yeah yeah and like if you have people in at your work that support you like that's even better like i was i'd be in the back of the restaurant with the whole back section they weren't

they wouldn't sit people in the back because all of my packages, I was packing them in between tables. Wow. And then I would go to my manager. I'd be like, can I just run to Shoppers Drug Mart? I have to mail these off before they close. Yeah, go ahead. And I'd have all these bags of people's packages.

packages going all over the world, mailing them out and then running back. Hi, my name is Sasha. I'll be taking care of you. Can I start you off with something to drink? I don't know the drive, man. They don't see those minutes, man. You know what I mean? I'm like, just watch my table, please. Just make sure that they get their food. I need the tip.

Take care of them. You know, like these were the times. But anyway, yeah, I told that guy, that man there, that I was going to work with him. And I didn't know in what capacity. But nine years later. Did you tell him? I didn't tell him. I'm like, yo, you remember you were handing out those t-shirts? You know, I didn't want. And I look all dry head gals. But crazy thing, guys, we end up on the front of New York Times. Oh, but in the line? In the line.

The back of my head with my dry hand back. And you left work. Him in the middle, handing the t-shirt. And then like people send me, like days later, people are like, oh my God, you're freaking out the New York Times. You have to frame that. Did you keep it? Crazy. Yeah, I even shared it in my vlog.

I was like, guys, nine years prior. You should have brought it to set, man. You should have been like, hey, remember me? I thought I was going to work with you, fuck nigga. But you know what? I really, really was like, Sasha, professional.

Be a professional. Let's not be a fan today. And things have changed so much since then. It's not to say that I'm not a fan anymore. I'm definitely still a fan. But you've seen a lot of celebrities. I've seen a lot of celebrities. I don't want to make him feel uncomfortable. You know what it's like. To be harassed unjustly. Right. I know what it's like to be harassed unjustly. And also like...

I just figure that there will be an appropriate time for us to break bread and for me to say that. And even if that takes another 10 years, I'm okay with that because I feel like God set it up in such a way where, like, look at that. like come on you're tied together now you're in a scene you're in the first scene of Drake's Canadian sitcom acting debut

since Degrassi. Like, that's tough. And he sees everything, so there's no way he's going to forget that. That's crazy. Yeah. That's hard, man. Yeah, I'm grateful. That's amazing. That's amazing. Everybody was just going off because that scene dropped before the show even dropped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so your phone. Hot. Hot. Hot. People you haven't talked to in years. What's good, big head? What was the weirdest text or message you got? Great question.

Weirdest text message You know what Everybody has been great Like I just know No no weird as in like You? Like Oh she thought of three names just now Yup She's like I'm not saying That immediately I just know a girl who's been chatting me from where there. She did it under the comments, but oh my God, you look so cute. Fire, burn that rust. Oh my God. Go away from you. Go away from you. Go away from you. Isn't that so fun though? Isn't that great?

People from high school that used to be like talking shit. I know. They in your DMs in the hidden. They're not even in the general or the primary. They're in the hidden. I will say though. I keep them over there. I'm blessed. I'm blessed in the fact that like.

I don't really, I can't count on one hand how many people I feel like. And if they don't like me, me don't know them don't like me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was always really good with, I don't want to say like everybody, but I never had.

beef and stuff growing up me either but people still that's not yeah people find a way of course i hear things here and there whatever some type of because it has nothing to do with you yeah it's right like it's not nothing to do with how you treated people or what you were like yeah it always has everything to do with that person yeah and I try to give people grace because it's like when your life sucks yeah

We don't talk about it enough, but you tend to pour that out on other people. Yep. And unfortunately, that's just the way that it goes. I have a prime example of that. This red pillar. Calls himself a family values advocate. Oh, don't they all? Okay. As soon as you say family values advocate and you're a man, I'm side-eyeing you. What is this about? Because even if you actually believe that, you can never say it out loud. Okay.

It's like loving your country too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how to say it. You just show it, you know? And that's white or black, too. Because if I see a nigga in an all Blue Jays fit, he got it on him. I mean, that's 100% right, yeah. 100% you got it on him. So he's on this podcast called Whatever, and there's a guy who's like a main moderator, and he's kind of red pillish. I've seen him in clips, but he's not.

the whole way. He still has some objective takes. Excuse me, but he does a format of his show just in general. I side-eye because why do you have six women on there from OnlyFans and you're questioning what they do? Yeah, it's still fresh and fit. See what I'm saying? Yeah. And so... He's fresh and fit light, for sure. Yeah. So he has this woman on the podcast, Debater, and this is what unfolds. I'm just going to be totally honest with you.

I will never be able to convince you of my worldview. You won't. I know. But the reason is not because I'm not a great orator or I don't make good points or I haven't said things which should be compelling to a person. But Charlie, I just think, honestly, you're too fucking stupid to understand them. So, Andrew, can I sell you on my worldview? Yes.

Your wife has three baby daddies and has been married twice before. And you... And you lick snizz. Under your religion. You lick snizz. You're a fucking dyke. Don't talk shit about my wife, you stupid bitch. Shut your fucking mouth. Can I sell you on my worldview? Yeah, go ahead. I start talking. Your wife has three fathers. Three baby daddies.

You look fucking... You look fucking... You fucking... You look snizz. I want my wife, you fucking bitch. Fuck you, bitch. I'll pee right now, bitch. Stupid bitch mouth. What? Such a stupid bitch mouth. You're a fucking dyke. Don't talk shit about my wife, you stupid bitch. Shut your fucking mouth. Shut your stupid bitch mouth. Your wife with the three babies. What did I just say? Sorry, I'm sorry, Dyke. Is she morally inconsequential in comparison to your ditch licking?

Do the men that you try to show your hatred against them? Do they convince them that they shouldn't pursue women? Charlie, did I bring your family into anything? You called me fucking stupid. say anything about your family being stupid, Charlie? It's because I'm better than you, Charlie. No, it's because you're embarrassed and you know that the traditional values that you try to sell people on are bullshit because you are not a traditional man. Chuck, let's go through it.

He's going through all of it, bro. All his thoughts coming in just saying it out loud. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. I loved, I almost jerked off to this. I love this. It was so amazing. She did it so perfectly. To me. Calm. Calm with it. I love a good serving, man. A good serving. The way you presented it to me, can I sell you on my worldview? The portions were just right. Can I sell you on my worldview? The plate full. It runneth over my cup. Sex for your wife has three baby days. What the fuck?

What the fuck? I will shoot you right now, bitch. What the fuck? Like, grow that. Within three seconds. Don't talk about my wife. Don't talk about my wife. He didn't see that one coming.

He did not see that one coming. The fact that at the end, he's like, shut, and he just cut himself off. It's so funny because, like, first of all, he's clearly... extremely unintelligent oh my god the things that he has to resort to as tactics to get people to not listen to her point in totality because her her point he knows will put a hole in his entire god entire stance and maybe career is hilarious because first of all

I always find it hilarious. And there's a few people in this city that are like this, which I won't name. But I always find it because when you hear things and you know things and you see people doing things, you're like, you? Not you. Say more, say more. The amount of people that feel the need to get online and tell people how to live life. Like they know, right? How to live in their relationship, how to be a man, how to do this, how to do that. Yeah, yeah. I know you.

What are you doing? Where is the, the, the, the, what is it? What is the word when you, uh, self-awareness? Where is the self-awareness? That you would get on a podcast. You would make a career out of telling men how to maintain a relationship. Meanwhile. And grow a family with family values. Meanwhile, your wife has three baby daddies. The goal. With self-awareness.

No situational awareness. The goal. No awareness at all. The caucasity of it all. You thought we weren't going to find that? I don't understand. You think it's private information? Brother, it's public. And then on top of that. Fine. We find the information. Cool. You had no point thought to prepare yourself for that coming up. You look snizz. You look snizz, you fucking dyke. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

Right now. Turn off the camera. Stop it. It's not loud. Not loud. You might as well have done that. Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. That's exactly what you did. Nuh-uh. It got to a point where she's expressing her points and he's just mirroring what she's saying because he has nothing up here. It is a man spiraling. It is immense. And it's even better that she's a lesbian.

she dates women too yeah yeah so she can fuck your wife she dates women too and she knows them better than you do yeah it's clear he's really insecure about the fact that his wife has three babies yeah she'll be like i'll be i'll be number four nigga oh my god Right. Sweet poetry. Sweet poetry. There's another video I saw of him this week where it was the same thing. Oh, the same thing? Yeah, it was more along the lines of the same thing, but it was a different person. Oh, he's done.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's having a rough little two weeks, though. In other news, Childish Gambino. Scary news. Very scary news. Had a stroke. Yeah, and they found a hole in his heart. This was last year. This is why he canceled his tour. Oh, no. It was during a show he started being able to not see, and things just started getting weird. I had no idea. Yeah, he canceled his tour. He had no idea either. He's back on tour now.

Yeah. And his first order of business coming back to the world are cancel cards. Okay. All right. That is the first cancel card for our audio listeners. It's a picture of a cartoon animated picture of R. Kelly with his back. Turned. And his pants down. His ass out. I think he's wearing boxers. I don't know. A fountain of yellow liquid. He's very dehydrated. Exiting his groin. Yeah. Okay. It's almost like a rainbow. It's. Yeah. It's like. It's.

The next one is Target in the style of Nazi. Yep. We won't say the name of the person, but you know who it is. You know who it is. You know who that is. This one, I didn't really understand. I don't understand it either, to be honest. This is a photo of Drake. Grooming a dog? Sharing a... No, that's a dog? That's a dog, yeah. I thought it was a sheep. And a pie? It's a grooming a dog and there's a pie on the window. That's hot. Grooming a dog. You're calling him a groomer, I think. Wait. Yeah.

But the pie, I don't understand the pie. But they're calling him a groomer. Oh, okay. Groomer. Okay, I guess. So then it's definitely a dog. And then there's a pie at the window. What could the pie at the window mean? Hmm. He's a sweetie pie. High at the window? I don't know. I don't get it. And then Diddy with a plethora of baby oil behind him. Yeah. Extremely long neck, too. Extremely long neck.

So those are his cancel cards. I believe there were more. Let me just see if I can find them. Yes. Here are some others. He has a... Rick Ross. Got to reshare. Resharing. So what's the purpose of these cars? Is he going to sell them? Good question. Rick Ross is a correctional officer. ASAP Rocky.

Promoting an album that's never coming with a stroller behind him. Okay. Never understood this either. Kendrick ironing. Oh. Wife beaters. He's pressing the wife beaters. He's pressing the wife beaters. But who is the wife beater that he pressed? Didn't Drake call him a wife? Yeah. I said the first thing I thought of. Yeah. Yeah. And then Jay-Z being accused by an illegitimate fake son that was already.

The case has already done and been thrown out. It's not his kid. Really? Yeah, that guy's been saying it's his dad for like 20 years now. Nobody believes him. He does look like a no. You sure he didn't pay him out? If he paid him out, then he wouldn't have been saved. Nothing for 20 years. Okay. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't understand the purpose. Is he going to sell him? Like, what is this for? I don't understand.

Why would this be your first thing to come out of a stroke? I was about to say, I know you just dropped them. You just came out of a stroke. You think you'd have like, you know, some gratefulness for life. Yeah. New zest for living. And how do you play? Do you play the game? That's what I'm saying. What is the purpose, right? Do you trade them? Is this a collector? I think they're collectors. Well, it would have seemed that there are 900 and at least 25 of them.

Because they're all numbered. Ah, okay. But if they're cancel cards, is he saying that these are all people who are canceled? I think so. Or saying that they should be or were? Do you know his child's name is Drake? Yes. Whose child's name is Drake? Childish Gambino. Yeah, his child's name's Drake. His first song he ever blew up off on was a Drake diss song that he pussied out of. And he also has a Drake episode of Atlanta. So...

To be that obsessed with Drake. A lot of flip-flopping, man. Yeah, I think there's... A lot of flip-flopping. You want it to be canceled with your son's name after him. And you want to be him. Let's be very real. He wants to be the actor, singer, rapper. And it never worked out on the same scale as Drake.

Like, he's a very talented guy. Very. Yeah. But it just didn't, you know what I mean? It's just. You just diet Jamie Foxx and it's okay. Yeah. It's all right. Yeah. Even down to the stroke. Even down to the stroke. Just copycatting. You know, it happens. Can we check his hairline? It definitely is questionable. That is so confusing. Childish Gambino, just every couple years, I feel like he needs to be weird. He's childish. Ah. See?

There it is. That's why she makes the big bucks. But seriously, like, there was the interview where he interviewed himself. I don't remember this. When the fuck was this? You don't remember the interview where he interviewed himself for, like, Rolling Stone or something like that? And then he asked himself why he's afraid of black women?

Oh, God. Yeah. What year was this? Voluntarily. What year was this? No one prompted him to do that. I don't know. Not that long ago. And what was his answer back to himself? It was a lot. It's like some shit about being bullied or not being chosen. He wrote it on a napkin too. On a hotel napkin, no. Sorry. He wrote that on a hotel napkin years and years and years ago. Something about black women not liking him or...

Him being afraid of black women because they'll cancel him or... What? I don't know. Some bullshit. I'm over it. What's his partner? His partner's Asian, right? I think. Is it? I think so. Oh, she's white? He gives off Asian girlfriend though, eh? Insecurity makes a little more sense then. It does. You got a white girl in 2025 as a black man. There's got to be a hint of insecurity there. I mean. There's got to be. I mean.

I mean, no, people are loving each other. No, people are loving each other. I'm not saying they're not loving each other. I'm just saying society hates you. Oh, okay. Especially your own black people. Yeah. Oh my God. Black women despise you. Just off visible. We going there? Just off the... We going there? Just off the... We're here. Because you know, I'll talk about it. Hey, I'm just saying. Please do.

I mean, I feel like when it when we realize that it's just men who who have a distaste for black women and. that's why they choose white women or they're with a white woman and then they have a lot of shit to say about black women or it's like your whole friend group and all you're all black but all of your women are white that does that does make us feel a way

It does make us feel like, what the fuck? See, I get that. But at the same time, people don't look into any of that stuff. Let's just be very real. They just hate it. They just hate it. I used to believe that it was when black women used to say, oh, it's only when you talk shit and talk down on black women just to big up your own woman. That's when we have a problem. Like, no.

That's not the case. I think it's a healthy mix of both, bro. There's some people who, like, they date white women or people that are just women that are not black, and they're like... I have something better. Of course. And that's very fucking weird. Horrible. And we experience that a lot. Yeah, there's other people that say, hey, I just have a preference towards this.

but they don't really do the additional work to find out why that's their preference. And that's where I think a lot of black women have an issue with, right? It's like, hey, do the work. Why do you always go to that? But why do they have to do the work?

Just to find out. Why? I've gotten to the place now. What does it matter to strangers, though? Okay. I guess most of it matters to them. Like, they're trying to find out, like, hey, have you done the work? If they're with the person, what does it matter to... Y'all. Right, right. What does it matter to y'all that I don't know why I like her? What does it affect your life? It doesn't. You're right.

wouldn't you want to find that out why? I would, but if that person does it, I don't give a fuck. Like, that's their life. It doesn't affect you as if the person is not speaking down on black women and they're not, like... Tearing down other women to big up their own women. I don't see how it affects people to the point where they have to vilify someone for it. If it's a stranger, sure. Sorry, go on. No, no, go ahead. If it's a stranger, sure. But let's say if it's a friend.

Like a friend pressing another friend or saying, hey, why do you always date white women? What is that? And the person's like, don't worry. That's my preference. Yeah. I think as a friend, they kind of can press you and challenge you, right? Absolutely. As a friend. I'm talking about strangers only. Because that's who I have the problem with. I have no problem with family, friends, questioning anything because you know that person. People who don't know...

A person will just go off on Twitter. A lot of times it's projecting. A nigga will become a new celebrity. New celebrity. Man just had one project out. It hasn't popped out with anyone. Goes to an award show. His girlfriend's wife. Fuck this nigga. You want to know why? Oh, I had hope for him. You want to know why? Because I think people are just tired of seeing it over and over and over again when it comes to certain spaces. Okay, now don't get me wrong.

i'm i'm with you i'm with you it really shouldn't matter that's people's business if uh if this person's woman is white and that's who they love let them enjoy now what i realized too is that there is projecting because people are are the reality is is black women love black men and i don't think i don't think that we um that we really take that conversation in and

I don't think that black men on a whole truly understand the depth of that love. Right. And I think a lot of the time people are just like, it's like we're fighting with each other, but it's because it's like, it's truly this deep. cry for the unity of our community again and like people in general on the internet are evil in so many different ways about different topics but then

We do see that there's a lot of like, you know, hatred when it comes to interracial relationships, because there are people who are actually hurting. Now, don't get me wrong. I used to be in a space where I had that. fire in my eyes as well. Especially coming from this city where so many black guys choose women who are not black. But you know why that happens, right? You know why this city is special, right? It's the most multicultural city in the world.

Black guys here are not just white. Like my girlfriend's Palestinian, for example. And we love her. I know black guys are dating Asian women, brown women. It doesn't matter. This is the most multicultural place in the world. What do you expect? Of course. If we're in Atlanta and I'm only dating white women, you have every right to look at me like a fucking weirdo. But then we're also... aligned with the conversation that is everything having to do with.

what's wrong with us why we're not being chosen right yeah and a lot of women don't want to admit that that is the issue it's like feeling not chosen by your own um but that is the issue black women want to be the choice for black men now i used to feel a way about it and i and i would have that anger and i really hated that feeling right it's different now for me yeah but the reason why it's different is because i realized i was i'm not in the right

place i didn't live in the right place for the type of love that i wanted right so i needed to be amongst more black people who are valuing that yeah right and so i put myself in a position where i could spend more time with black people and date black people because i black men because i didn't really get well here and there i dated black guys over here but

Again, then the next day there was some white lady and it's like, okay. So it's easier being Ghana and doing that because people aren't even thinking black? From what I've been told at least, people aren't over there thinking white, black, brown. No, no, they don't. That's the thing for us because, exactly. But that's because everybody's black. See what I'm saying? Right.

You got to adhere to the environments you're in. Even kind of, sorry, to go back to what you just mentioned right now, you said like if you were to be dating someone, they date you and then they date someone right after. I don't see why you'd have an issue with that. No, I don't.

Okay, or in the past, in the past, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah, in the past, yeah. I don't see why, because they've dated you. So, like, they've shown that they have interest in black women. Why would that be an issue? I think it'd be different if it was a person you only dated outside of a race. And that would be some self-hatred stuff. But I think...

People that date multi-races, I think, also get shit, too. I've had that happen as well. Yeah, of course. A partner would be like, oh, you dated a person that was not this race, and that's weird. And I was like, majority of my girlfriends have been black. I've had three black girlfriends, one Filipino, one white, one Palestinian.

Okay? And that's since grade 10 or 9. One of the two. And the amount of people that will tell me that I hate black women is insane. Yeah, you can't listen to that. That's insane to me. And I'm like... It's weird that we can do this and see the equivalent with other things. For example, when we say Black Lives Matter. And white people go, oh, so my life doesn't matter? We go, you can't understand how I can think your life matters, but I'm talking about this.

It's kind of the same thing for you. It's the same shit. Yeah. But because you're dating someone of a different race, you automatically hate black women. It's not that they truly believe every single interracial guy who chooses a white or... anybody other than black hates black women it is it's the love it's it's the fact that they

want to see themselves represented in the person that you choose right and i know that it's an irrational ask in some way very much so um but at the same time say that again it comes from a real place though i think but it comes from a real place yeah and um There is a world where people truly value the union of black people. That's for me, me personally.

Not to say that I wouldn't date a white guy. I have dated a white guy, actually. It's not to say that I wouldn't date outside of my race had I not been already married to the best man in the world. I feel and I actually encourage my girlfriends I'm like guys like please you know because you said to a fault we love we sometimes yeah sometimes and

I agree because I'll be speaking to my girls and they're like, no, I want to marry a black man. I want to marry a black man. But when I speak to my black guys, I don't hear them going that hard. Yeah. You know what I mean? We have this thing where we really, really want to be. with our men and so when we don't see it and we're not around it it like has turned into like an anger and like this like so really i know it's frustrating it's annoying sometimes people don't even know how and

people are not right for going off the way that they go, especially in making people uncomfortable, but understand that really it's like a depth of love. It's like a cry for, you know, because even if it's not them that you choose. they love to see you with someone. Of course. I could argue my, my career would be better. I could argue like, that's how deep it goes. And I'm like, to me, it's, I understand it to an extent, but.

It's a lot of projection. And I should not have to explain my relationship to someone. No, you shouldn't. Why it exists. Why it exists. And I shouldn't have to explain to someone that... I'm not looking past you because I think something's better. You have to show your resume. I've dated a black before. I'm also not going to not like someone because they're not black. Yeah.

I'm just not wired that way. But know that it's not all black women that feel this way. There's a lot of black women who are completely okay. It's like they're just not the ones on social media chatting. But also what I want to point out is... It's not true that it's majority black men dating outside the race. Yeah. That's the other thing that's bullshit. We have the smallest percentage of dating outside our race. But when you count Asian people, white people.

Spanish people. I don't think that's true. Go look up the percentages because I did. We are below all three. In terms of dating outside of our race. I feel like black men are the ones who date outside of their race. Because that's what you guys are looking at. You guys are looking at white boys. I think black men are desired by other races a lot more. But I think that other races do date a lot. Like a lot of Asian guys date white women.

Yeah, that is a fact they do it at a higher like what I mean higher a disproportionate rate higher than we do and there's a lot of them And not to mention the amount of black men I know that do have black women that are just completely overlooked like, ah, protocol. Yeah. Like, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. No, there is a huge, and this is why I've also like, I constantly in my messaging too, as I've gotten older, I'm like.

guys like move around there are black men who also prioritize this in for like the way that you do as well all over the world it's just when your world seems so small and you're in toronto or in montreal or in wherever and and that's all you see like that is the beauty of toronto the beauty of toronto is the multicultural the interracial relationships you have to look at it in a different kind of way but realize that there's

Other countries where like when I first went to Ghana, one of the things that truly like took me over mentally was the fact that I saw black people dating. Yeah.

i remember just like people watching just being in a restaurant by myself and just being like oh my god every table here a black guy is walking in with his girl smiling up smiling up putting bear flirt on our all kind of things and i'm like wow like i literally did not grow up seeing this because i live in a city where that's not something i'm used to seeing do you also think though at a certain point you stop looking for it no

I don't know. I feel like at a certain point you start looking for the other thing because it reinforces what you already think. It's reconfirming what you already expect. And so you're constantly seeing... It's reconfirming your bias every single time because you're like, oh, I'm always seeing black guys. If you look at it the other way, just like when your parents get a red car and now all of a sudden you see the red Honda Civic everywhere. I'm going to try and look for that.

Cause I see it everywhere. Okay. Majority of my friends are dating black women and they're black men. So I'm like, I, I, I get it. I get it. I get it when, um, you know, people. get at that but we also talked about like for example when it comes back to environment like being in Toronto there are black men in America for example who

are dating white women and they're athletes, right? And it's majority athletes that this is a quote unquote problem with. But what people are overlooking is that black kid did not grow up in his hood. For much longer. He was taken from there. Probably put in a white home that was rich because it's closer to the school. And he's able to now attend a school that's going to get him to the NFL. And now he's out of school with just white people. Of course.

And the black guys that are there are all on the team. Yeah. So now you're in an environment where it's just nothing but white people or multicultural or whatever. So I'm just not supposed to like anybody? No, no. Like, your environment, people are not... taking in like how much your environment plays into it. 100%. We grew up around cultures nonstop. So it's like for me to expect you to just be excluding, like I said, if you're in Atlanta,

Then you're making like an effort. Then it looks weird. You know what I mean? Then you're making an effort. What do you think affects it more? What you see at home just in terms of your parents or just what you're surrounded with? Let's say you were still... Depends on what you value. Like me, valued friends and friendships and being outside and having fun. Some people value family way more. And to be honest, if I had a lot more...

Black education when I was younger. Who knows? Because I might have seen it as my duty. Martin Luther Marlin. I might have seen it as my duty to extend my race. You know, we can't dilute the blackness and all the things that you hear, right? We're not all that deep with it. No, but there are some people who are literally that. You know what I mean?

I don't know if I want to be like, oh, I'm picking you because you're just a doody. Like, what the fuck? Well, no, not just because you're a doody, but that would be the first line of doody. This would be the first checkmark. She has to be black. because of whatever I learned growing up. She has to be black, and then everything else can fall underneath. Is she kind? Is she blah? But it starts with, is she black? And if my family instilled that in me growing up, maybe.

Well, that is pro-blackness. That is pro-blackness, where it's like the advancement of the black community. The race, yeah. Keep it pure.

It's not even really about keeping it pure. That hat is crazy. We're keeping it pure over here. It's not even about keeping it pure. It's just the advancement of the black community. And the easiest choice you can make as a pro-black... pro-black person is your partner partner yeah and like choosing a black person is is how you you're gonna procreate gonna extend and so you can't be pro-black if you don't choose a black partner So I don't believe that you can. I don't think you can. Prove it.

We can easily prove it. I think that you can I think that you can be, you know, black and proud and have black pride and support the black community and be completely 100 percent.

cool and and and loved and supported and i'm all here for it but a pro black person chooses a black person to be with that's my belief um i think that's the easiest choice that you can make in your pro-blackness is like the person that you choose to further your life with right that's like they say that's like that's like basic

basic like groundwork and then things after that that's that's what i believe i know some people believe uh differently but i don't believe that you can be a pro-black person and then you choose someone else outside of the black race to be I think that's baby food. You're attracted to black people. Should people who are dating outside their race, should they advocate for black rights at all? Of course. Do they have the right to?

Of course. Of course. It's not to say that just because... Because that's where I see the argument is people saying, oh, so-and-so is so pro-black, but they got a white girl and it's usually a guy that... advocates for black people online or does some sort of no like and that's again like that's i feel like that's the difference is like you have pride you are this is black pride you are

fully a part of your black community you are supporting the black community but your partner is not a black person that's okay that's totally okay then there's people who are pro-black like they're there there's no world where they're choosing to marry someone outside of the black community because to them the family unit is where it starts which truly that's probably why we suck when it comes to a lot of things is because we don't

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the home versus the outside things you know what i mean well because if you have if you have like a more stable then it's like that's gonna be the values you kind of have not really because you know not to put any of my family members out there or anything but i have lots of brothers and families members and cousins and stuff or whatever and they saw two black

parents at home and everything and their girls are still not bad yeah they hate themselves you know i'm kidding not my brother my brother's girlfriend is black right now but he's dated i think this was the first black one he dated so like actually actually like so um and we're grown so and they saw my parents together our whole life so it's not to say that um

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can see a beautiful, loving relationship. If you like someone, you like someone. I guess that's a good point. And I love his girlfriends. He had great girlfriends that just weren't black until he had a black one. Exactly. I mean, and they saw Mommy and Daddy the whole time. Good point, yeah. Yeah, because I've never, it's never like, obviously you hear, especially when you're in a Christian Jamaican home, you hear some anti-blackness. Mm-hmm.

Especially Jamaicans. Oh my God. Yeah. Keep going. Wait, what's your background? Congolese. Thank you for asking. Oh, Congo. We just beat Nigeria. Period. I saw that. Gang gang. Love it. Might have to beat Jamaica though. Did you hear about that? I didn't hear about that. So playoffs to make the World Cup. You guys haven't made it yet, by the way. I know. March, 1-1 March. But you guys did skip the first round of the playoffs. So you guys are like the last team to face.

Jamaica, if they beat... Oh, I cannot remember the team right now. But there's a team that they have... No, I can't remember. There's a team that they have to face first. Yeah. And if they beat them, we face Kamlo. And we will have an extra grade. Live. That's live viewing.

Live show, live game watch. It will happen. So let's just pray for the reggae boys in March. It's a long time. We got to wait for this game. Let's lock in, bro. Let's lock in. We're showing them who has the waistline for real. Come on. What are we talking about? I mean, definitely. But yeah, no. Childish Gambino definitely is one of those people that have let the whole, am I black enough?

Kind of rule his life. He walks so Logic can run. He needs to get over it. Really? Like dead ass. Like if you listen to his old mixtapes. Yeah. Mad bars about too white for the black kids. Too black for the white kids. Yeah. But also, is there something to... Because he is a certain type of black man. Okay. And I think I know where you're going. I wish Matt was here for this. Yeah. There is a certain type of black man that black woman.

On a majority, I don't want to say all, but on a majority, call nerds, geeks, weirdos. But I mean, like, get over it because look how many things that people call black women.

Yeah, no, I get that. But I'm just saying in terms of like them going to seek something outside of their race. If a black woman seeks something outside of their race because of the vilification and the names and the... constant being put down and not valued people is it not okay for the black man that's also feeling that way to do the same thing um it's okay but i think what it is is that like so many of us have experienced it

And we get over it. It's not like we're like the majority of us will still want a black man, even though we remember in grade five when the guy called us ugly because, oh, your hair is dry up. Your hair is not pretty light. We grow up and we realize, okay, that was an incident from grade five. I can still be attracted to a black man. Whereas I find that men will be like, grade one. I remember the black girls. No, it's not even black girls. It's any girl.

We put a blanket statement on anything because we will call it our villain origin story. Okay. So niggas become whores because of one thing that happened to me. I remember what happened with my... Villain origin story. He got dogged out. My times. He remembers his villain origin story. He knows it. And then... Like, guys put a blanket moment over their most... devastating moment with a woman they put a blanket thing over it and this is

It's either, oh, all girls are cheerleaders, all girls that do this, or all girls that do that. Usually for a lot of men, it's all girls that are materialistic. So you'll see guys have this deep-rooted hate. For a girl, even if they have money, money will have deep-rooted hate for women who want things and want a good life and to be taken care of. Because of some girl that they tried to do that with.

Didn't work. And they dogged them out and made them feel like shit. And now they put on all those women. Men need therapy. Men need therapy. A lot of it. Men need therapy. But we also don't, we aren't grown. I think this next generation of men will be very interesting to watch because like. We grew up with Don't Cry, You're a Boy.

See what I'm saying? I was just talking to my girl about this the other day. I'm like, women are so detail oriented because you guys have to think about your feelings. And so how is this going to make me feel? How is this going to make me feel? I got to do this because that's going to make me feel this way. Men don't think that way.

I think it's conditioning. I think a lot of that's conditioning. I don't know if it's nature. I think it's conditioning for sure, but like parent conditioning. Especially when you're talking about our generation. We're one of the last generations where men don't express shit.

For the most part. You're very lucky if you have a father that expressed his feelings. Very lucky if you had a dad that you seen cry. Very lucky if you have a dad that said I love you on a regular basis. Hugged you. These are things that don't happen. You're talking Jamaican households. Oh, yeah. Forget about that. The worst kind of household. Just minorities in general. Yeah. It's very strict over here. They weren't given that. They're constantly trying to harden you.

As men, you got to be tough. You got to be prepared for what life's going to throw at you. And it's never, how do you feel? Yeah. There's no check-in. There's no check-in. And with the girls from your little age, everything's so soft and delicate. How do you feel? Are you okay? What's wrong? Blah, blah, blah. And so you guys are grown to think.

More about your feelings than we ever would be thinking about it. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, there's healthy switch definitely happening now, too. Oh, yeah. Right now. But the switch. Comes at a detriment. Yeah. Now you're a bitch and now you're gay because you have feelings. But there's also an overcorrection on the other side as well where the women are like, I'm going to be focusing on my business. I don't have time for men. Women are new niggas.

Exactly. So it's like, what are we doing? Feminism has created hardback woman niggas. Yeah. And how are we going to switch it back, guys? Because we don't. Well, soft life era is trying, but I feel like there needs to be a happy medium. Because soft life era is just going back to the 40s. You want to get beat up too? Yeah. We talk about soft life era? We can talk about the era. No voting? No choice? Having babies barefoot pregnant over a stove? Jesus.

That's soft life. And no credit cards. Yeah, no Amazon, none of that. Like that's the soft life that people are trying to revert back to. But I'm like, we have to find a happy medium. There has to be a happy medium. There has to be a happy medium. There has to be. A woman has to be able to have her own autonomy, go to work and come home and still be kind of taken care of.

Yeah. Instead of just being the man and being the woman at home. The traditional version. You know, it's real partnership. You know, like a lot of people, that's where it works is when you are, this is your partner like in life.

you know you're home today so maybe you're gonna cook i'm home today so i'm gonna cook you know what i mean you can still be a working woman and want to like i'm a working woman but i can't wait to get home and make some food for my husband like i want my husband to eat what I'm cooking. You know, that makes me feel good. Do you find it difficult to not keep track of who's done what?

And who's putting quote unquote more and who's doing more and whatnot. Because I am blessed to have a husband who does not do that with me. If he was keeping score, he would have dashed me with a long time. You know what I mean? You're losing. How do you do this again? I have no idea where the dishwasher is. Like, truly, like, he, and he never, like, you know, he shows up for me in these spaces.

this is what makes me want to just give him everything. Because he never, he doesn't make a record of my wrongs or where I'm falling short. That's African men for you, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really do believe that's the difference. Not all. Definitely not Jamaica though, right? Yeah, moment of silence. No, Jamaican men are traditionally known to be really good in the kitchen.

Not bad people. Good in the kitchen. Very helpful around the house. Emphasis on house. I grew up seeing my dad cook. I grew up seeing my dad clean. Grew up seeing my dad garden and do all those things. He's never seen his dad do any of that. First, are you crazy? My dad built a fucking fence. Like, he's a different type of nigga. To keep you out. Oh, damn. Pain. Pain. No, my dad did all that stuff. Like, the gardening stuff. He keeps...

coming back. I'm just there like I'm on top of the fence. No. Build it faster nigga. Shout out to the Jamaican man because I'm not trying to dog out the Jamaican man but what I will say is I'm married to an African man. And it is the best relationship that I've ever been in. A Ganyan man specifically. And I can't say... We're going to quit on the books. Are you Ganyan? Are you Ganyan?

Period. I love that. But like, yeah, like I just. His family invented Dutty December. Period. Yeah. They're the founders. Okay. I'm in your house. Imagine. yeah but like yeah i don't know so there's no keeping record and score and whatever and i think that's how it works like a partnership a true wherever he falls short i can come in you know what i mean i can we're supposed to be supporting each other and you should want to up the score yeah why do you want to even

score, I feel like that's the problem is that people constantly be like, oh, I'm up 20. I'm not doing nothing anymore, yo. Until he gets up 20, I'm not doing no more. And then not having the conversation? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, you just want to know that. That is the worst. You just want to know that. But that's the worst. Talk about it. You want someone who wants to come in and blow your socks off. I love to blow my husband's socks off.

sense like I want to surprise him. I mean, guys, get your minds out of the gutter. Get your mind out of the gutter. Sick nigga, man. No, I don't mean it like He's freaked out. Don't worry about it. But I don't mean it like that. Okay. I just mean like, you know, I know the things that he's working towards. I know the things that he's passionate about. I want to support him. I want to surprise. I like to make him feel great. That's why she doesn't show his face on social media.

He's amazing You guys should not see him Don't look at him Before I got married I never showed his face But now people have seen him I don't show him a lot but now people have seen him I wasn't really I was wondering if that was his choice. Like he did. He's not a social media person or like you chose. I chose because before I was the last relationship I was in publicly, everybody was just in it. Trust me, that's why.

And I hated that. I stopped posting as much. Yeah, I hated that. And people are so bad-minded too. Evil eyes are a real thing, man. It's real. So I was just like, I wanted to keep it off. And I low-key still kind of do. But I realized that like, okay, when he's my husband. then i then cool like he can pop up here and there and then also um i try to not do too much when it comes to the people that i love online because

Their lives change, too. Yep. You know, and it's like like people that I'm that I roll with, like people be pulling up to their jobs and be like, aren't you? Aren't you? No, even worse than that. You know, could you tell Sasha or could you give? Can you run this by Sasha? I have this idea. Oh my gosh. And they know not to come to you because they know you're going to be like, fuck out of here or ignore it. But they go to your friend who they know is going to be like, yep.

And they're like, could you tell her that I have this idea and I want to do this and this and this and this. And your mom's standing there like, my mom's like, I have this package for you. Ask if you can show it on your Instagram. And then your mom's so nice. She's going to take it and she's going to.

And then you say no, and your mom's like, but why? She's like, it's good for your skills. It's a business mom. They got you, mom. I have to charge her. I'm like, give me that. You know, like it's tough. And so I kind of want to keep their life as normal as possible because it's me that chose to be this face fronting person.

My mom wanted people to know. My mom put on her desk. Here's a picture. You know my son. Everybody comes inside. You know my son. He does YouTube videos. That's amazing. I love it. I love that though. I love it. So yeah. That's my thing. What is the best thing that this career has afforded you the ability to do? The best thing. The best thing that this career has. That's the best part about it. is creating financial freedom for my parents. That's amazing. Point.

Millions of views, by the way, guys. Millions of views. That doesn't mean that we're making millions of dollars. That's exactly what that means. Every view is a dollar. It does not mean that. And like, I would welcome that. In the name of Jesus. In the name of the Father. Hallelujah. Okay. Amen. All right. Speaking of church, can we do that clip?

Can we do that? We have to discuss this. We have to discuss this. Okay. Somebody got pages in church. You grow up in church? No. A little bit, and then we start praying at home. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember. You give me... Church kid? Church kid. Church drummer to be specific. Church drummer? Whoa, what the? Church drummer. Wait, is it a joke? What the fuck? And we will praise you for the rest of the night.

You guys got all the girls. The drummers? No. Okay, never mind. He reminds me of the toilet guy. The quick switch of this hilarious thing is that nah. That weird creepy usher. Oh, God. Hold you extra tight. Can't take that drummer seriously. Yes, sister. Yes. Release him. Release him. So a Dallas, Texas church is going viral after a little girl said she's thankful for her stepmom. I'll tell you why after you listen to it. I don't want you to be thankful for your friends.

I don't want to hear you thankful for your teacher. It's not about that right now. You're going to say what you're really thankful for. First of all. That's an aggressive church. This is a very aggressive opening. These are children. Yeah. These are kids. What? You're in church. Say it with your chest. That's basically what you're telling me. Bro, why'd she say that so like hard body like? Hold on. Toys. I don't want to hear thankful for.

your friends. What if I'm thankful for my friends? Not today. It's not about that right now. You're going to say what you're really thankful for. Thank you for my stepmom because she's, I can't say that. And we're going to start again. And it ain't going to be just that. In the name of Jesus.

We gonna start over? That's where it gets dangerous. You'll see it throughout this clip. She keeps doing some bullshit and then bringing God into it. So you're not about to do that in the name of Jesus. No, everybody does. And this is the church, brother. Who posted this? somebody who wants to be saved I'm thankful for my stepmom because she listens to me better than my actual mom thank you

Now, is this the mom? Right now, in the name of Jesus, I speak to that enemy that's trying to rule and reign in you. Right now, open the door. Open the door. See, what you will not do, see, the word of God says we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against the principalities in the darkness that try to do strongholds. And what we will not have... The kids have the truth, and they know you're blaming the enemy. This is PTSD. It's triggering, eh?

Brother. I've had this happen before too. This is PTSD. Right now in the name of Jesus. How do you feel and pray? That's the enemy. That's speaking. That's not you. That's the enemy. That's the one. I swear to you, there's nothing that turned me off from church. More than that. the hypocrisy brother it's not even just that it's more like uh you know did you was it a small church i was a part of a small church i've been a part of a big church you know

So you know. Jamaican? Yep. All right. Done the talks. Anything that falls out of the purview of what they deem acceptable is the devil. the trick that that does with your mind you have no idea especially if you're as a kid they put this in your mind you're fucked bro right imagine five people okay you said something that you thought was completely innocent it's how you felt

Imagine five people walking up to you. They put oil on your head and everybody's gripping you and praying. Come out! They're trying to shove the devil out of you. Come out, it's hilarious. And pray over you at the same time. And you're like, is this the part where I drop down? And you don't know what to do. Because you said someone stinks or something. It could be anything. Your teacher called home from school that week. So your mom goes to church. His teacher called home from school again.

Second time this year. All you hear is, Lord have his... Jesus! He has a demon of disturbance in him. Five people rush you. And just start shaking you and gripping you and brain dropping. It's traumatic. It's traumatic, but it's more traumatic in the fact that it plays with your mind. Like, yo, there's something really wrong with me. That guilt thing too. Like, bro. When you don't know better.

You're like, there's something actually wrong with me because this doesn't happen to my brothers. This doesn't happen to my friends. This doesn't happen. It's only happening to you because it's always like one or two people, kids in church that it happens to you. It's so fucked because when that kid breaks free, they break free and do too much. They started doing drugs. But they just do too much because they're so used to these shackles. I can't live like this. I turned an atheist.

For a good six years. Do you know what I mean? A good six years, I was like, this God stuff is bullshit. I don't want to hear it. I went through that. Don't want to just, and my life is fine. I haven't been going to church for the first time in my life. And guess what? Life is still good. I don't need it. And it took years and years of just like, you know, things happening in your life.

things happening in other people's lives, things you see, things you experience that you're like, oh no, God's real. God's very real. And it's just it's very disheartening seeing a video like this the public it's the public shame that gets it for me like and i i find that and it's happened to me growing up where you know they'll be like you know praying and talking well about like maybe the girls that you're around and then it's so clear that

they're looking at you and everyone's looking at you and, and, and the pastor is like not giving you that, that, you know, he's kind of like clearly letting everybody know. You see this one? Something's wrong with this one. You know what I mean? I remember feeling that.

I remember I remember even hearing pastors like try to call and I'm really close to my dad. So I'm very protective over my dad as well. So like, you know, even like calling him out in front of like hundreds of people and like just.

Saying, oh, you're not on this spiritual level and things like that. And those are things that can break a man down. This is often too. I'm not talking once a year, once in a while. I'm talking like every month. A lot of church, a lot of... of our churches unfortunately they move cult-like they move very very cult-like yeah yeah and it's it's probably the same reason why i ended up leaving the church and for years i i didn't go but luckily

for me and i thank god that i always had a personal relationship with god i think it's very important because it really really saved me because that one one thing i will say is for me there is no life better than the one that I have because God is in my life. There is no life better. And I wish I could bottle it and give it. to people because i'm like low-key you were given it in a different way and so now you think that that's what god is and that was not what god is

It's not stepped on. There's many churches that are running a ting and God's not there. God is not there. I can feel it. When I started telling people that, bro, trust me. It's like an organization.

And your parents are giving everything that they have. They can barely pay their rent. And they're giving everything to that man and his family. And we get richer and richer. That my soul felt. Dog, how do you think I felt transitioning from the church to praying at home? People are like, oh, you guys didn't.

You're better than the church? Yep. You think you're really learning anything? Yep. Okay, what's y'all in that last? First, you have no idea where you're talking about spiritually, and I'm like, oh, no. You know, it's just culty. You know, to respect my parents, like, I try not to, you know, say anything that would. make them feel a way, but it wasn't until my parents left their last church, like going in physically, that I saw their relationship completely transform.

Once they started going to church, like just watching at home and just having it between them. Listen, bro, it was a complete, our whole life changed. The fact that people think that pastors are therapists. It's probably one of the most detrimental things in our community. It is. It is. A man that could be eyeing your wife down. Yeah. It's telling you, you guys need a divorce. Yeah. I've seen it.

And the Lord spoke to me. The most egregious things that you could think happened, happened in churches. Wild. Especially small churches. If I start to write, one day I... Me and my brother were fucking everybody. These... girls were throwing the pussy. It was nonstop. I got sucked on a girl's titties in a basement one time. It was... That wasn't even in the church. No, wild things happen. I heard so many things at...

my church about grown adults and I stopped caring because I thought I had to be a certain way and represented my parents and blah, blah. And then I hear what some of the people in this church are doing. Yeah. To each other? But that's the thing about it, man. That's the key. What the key is, is you can't watch people. People will let you down 100% of the time. Man, I watched a man get married in the church. Come back two weeks later.

with a girl who was already in the church and now she's pregnant. Yeah, I've seen that too. And everyone's acting like nothing happened. Yeah, I've seen that too. Oh no. I've seen that too. And then this is what they'll do. It's a lot of subliminals. So like pastor would be up there. Pastor's talking about something completely unrelated. Just a story. And there's always one woman in church. I call it a Lord of the Keys.

It's almost always a woman that does. She's like, you know, Randall from Recess. Of course. Yep. Yeah. She's that, but she's also like. Pastor's like right hand person. She has the key to every door. She knows every meeting. She organizes the choir practice, everything. That woman? I never like her because every time pastor starts talking about something and it relates to somebody in the church, this is what she does. Yep. And she'll look at the person. Yeah. Yes, father.

Talk to them, Jesus. She's just a gossip. Talk to them. And it's multiple people who are just like, yep. Yep, yep. It's that person right over there. Yep. Bro, this is a TV show. And I don't think they think us kids know what's happening. That's why I'm so mad they got rid of Greenleaf. Because Greenleaf? Did you watch Greenleaf? I heard about it. I never watched it. Bro, you need to watch Greenleaf. It was good? I thought it was too Tyler Perry. I don't know. No.

you gotta watch it. You gotta see it through. You gotta see it through. Oh my gosh. As a church kid, like you will be like, Speaking to me. No, seriously, man. The amount of fuck you that happens in churches. A lot of crazy things. And people are bad people. I think we underestimate how many people go to church because they're bad people. Yeah. But we forget.

conversation people don't want to have they're compensating a lot of people i mean i don't want to expose anyone but like a lot of people like if they dive deep into religion later in their lives it's usually because something happened usually Some of the people who are the most involved, especially, is what I find.

It's very rarely the people who just attend church and are just carefree, go about their business. It's the people who are heavily entrenched in church that I'm always side-eyeing because why are you so gun-ho? What are you trying to make? up for some people you know some people really just want to give to the church and be close to god and and and be a part of the community because that's what the church is supposed to be it's supposed to

supposed to be a good community for you to lean on there'll be two of them yes but then you know people then people start mixing with each other which is why there's so many people who are like oh no i just want to go and leave i just want to go and leave and then people will make those people feel bad and be like no you need to be involved you need to

And there's a reason why people just want to come for the word and go because they don't want to mix because maybe the last time they were in another church, they mixed up with the people and then they thought everything was good. And then suddenly, you know, it's a whole heap of drama. Just here to support and get the word and go about my business.

I understand it. I've been on all sides of it. But one thing we know, God is good, good, good, good. All the time. I'm bringing my kids to church once a month. Once a month. Do you pray at home as well or just like church?

I mean, if they want to, yeah. I'm not going to be one of those people that forced religion on my kids. I'm going to expose them to it as much as I can. I think for me, it's great for kids because it's a great way of learning values. Absolutely. Because it's very simple. If you don't do this, you go to hell.

Yeah. And it's like, oh my God, I'm going to do that. And then you get older, you realize that's okay. I don't want to do it fear-based, but yeah. No, no, but that's kind of like, as a kid, that's how they consume it. At least that's how I did. Growing up, it's like, wait, I don't want to be a bad person because I don't want to go to hell. But then you get older and realize...

I don't want to be a bad person because I just don't want to be a bad person. That and the stories, the stories of the Bible are like, you know, they're just fables of real life lessons. You know what I mean? And so I admire those parts of the religion. I focus more on the spirituality, obviously, of course, about it. Because even the Bible, I have my questions about. That's fair. But, yeah, no, I feel like...

your children need to at least be exposed to it to their own choice. We do something here every single week and we don't miss a week. Not once. Not once. And it is our... Good youth of the week. Wow. What a good bloodshot youth, eh? The youth is good. Wow. What a good bloodshot group of youths. This week's good youth of the week is none other than...

Can I see gun fingers? Gun fingers real quick. Jamaican bobsled team. Bop, bop, bop. Puss to wall. Bop, bop. Stupid. Bop. The Jamaican bobsled team just won gold medal. Period. Oh, congrats. That's hard. You never know. Psych, nigga. Congratulations, guy. And the Nation Cup, I think it's called.

But yeah, no. I mean, I just feel like that needs to be highlighted. Because Cool Runnings is a movie, but this is real life. This is real. That's amazing. Congratulations. So shout out to Jamaican bobscent team beating out Canada.

Holy. Nice. Who has ice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hard. Imagine that. And we need a win wherever we can get it. Yeah, 100%. Wherever we can get it, we need a win right now. Yeah, exactly. Sasha, thank you so much for coming through. You are a big win in Jamaican culture.

We love you. You're doing amazing things. You're always doing amazing things. You're always progressing, which I love. Thank you. Never reverting back, never doing the same thing. You're always progressing and doing something different. I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you. Thank you for having me. on being, you know, part of African love. Thank you. Thank you for welcoming me, welcoming me into the community. Absolutely. I really appreciate that. You can catch her at Denti December.

You can catch her online. No, not flaws of couture anymore. I am Sasha Gay. I am Sasha Gay. I am Sasha Gay. With an I. Very Jamaican. Daddy's Kitchen. Daddy's Kitchen. Yeah. And soon levels to this agency. An agency. Yeah. God. God, what's happening? A lot is happening. What kind of agency? I'm going to help people do the things that I've done. Okay. I just want to help people do the things that I've done with their families. So leave church. Fine husband. Fine husband. Fine husband.

I go to church. Okay. I actually go to church. My church is in Accra. Accra.com. Shout out. slash zoom EWC okay in Accra like I have a church a home church in Ghana that I am the first time in years I feel great at I don't have one here yet but I'm looking I'm looking. You know? But at home for now. So what else were the agencies going to do? Prayer Palace? Um... I feel like that's such an old vintage isn't it still around on the side of the highway

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's right there. Levels to this. Like I'm helping founders, business owners. Like I'm just trying to take. the stress off of their shoulders with launches, rebrands, all that kind of stuff. But then also I'm doing some masterclasses, potentially doing some mentorship. People have been asking me to mentor for years and I've just been like, really me?

Really? Really? That's why I was just pushing you. Guys. Same way with you. Let Marlon know that he has a lot to teach people. Same way with you. People have been saying that to me for a long time and I've just been like, no, no. I don't know. Why would you? Little me.

And because, you know, it's there, I'm like, it's time for me to pour back into my community, help people figure it out. You know, there's people who want to do it with their families as well. And I feel like so many of us have the potential to.

build an empire online on youtube in the food space as well like you know it's evergreen so many of our homes have recipes so many of our moms our our sisters our brothers uncles have these recipes and personality and it's like we're hoarding them at home and it's like come let's we're gatekeeping yeah let's make it yeah that is kind of but yeah

Shout out to Sasha. Thank you so much for coming through. Really appreciate you. Another week, another Blood Clock classic. I'm Marlon. I'm Duke. And that was the Extra Gravies. Suck your mouth. Okay.