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The Business of OnlyFans with Allie Rae

Oct 14, 202141 minSeason 1Ep. 15
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On this week’s episode Amara gets personal with OnlyFans creator Allie Rae. They discuss how the former nurse went viral for her OnlyFans page. They also talk about the state of the platform, how to create a business model around OnlyFans, and how Allie’s life changed when she was fired from her nursing job.

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What's popping is a girl I'm not And you're listening to Exactly a Mada, a production of I Heart Radio. Well, I have some sad news. Unfortunately, my co host CV NOONEZ will no longer be with us. He's working on some bigger projects. He has some of the things going on. We will always send him love and support and they know that he's listening and he's part of Exactly a Mada family no matter what. But you know, sometimes things happen, and U as sad as I am, I know that

he's doing great things in life. I'm so grateful for the time that we shared together on Exactly a Mata. He brought a lot of juice, he brought a lot of spice, a lot of I know, and all that good stuff. But you already know how it is anyways, willing right along at today's topic is all leave fans. I know, I know, I know you guys have been talking about it. Some of y'all have been subscribing on the low. Stop lying. You know, you have your own, you know your own the only fans on the low,

and you'll be watching when nobody else is watching. Um and um. Some of you may not even have an only fans, But you might be curious. You may be curious, or you may or you may have a certain mindset a perspective on the type of people that use only fans, and you actually might just be wrong. Other people that are only fans are not there necessarily because they're financially struggling.

Some of them do it because they like it, some of them do it to feel liberated, some of them do it for financial reasons, some of them do it for whatever the case may be. Some of the people and only fans are actually professional, well educated people that

graduated from different careers listen only fans. In the beginning, I think that a lot of people were like, oh, that's the whole wars, Oh that's for slugs, Oh that's for this, and not necessarily some people may not be none of those things, and they just might be doing it to make themselves feel good. And by the way, if you can make a couple of dollars on the sides, why not not to mention is not just a couple of dollars. I've heard of some girls that made five

thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, a hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't only fans kind of make you change your mindset for two seconds. Those people that are in college working so hard to get a degree, to get not even close to that type of money a month. Well, for that and many more other things, I'll tell you this much, I have an amazing guest today. Not only is she beautiful, she's smart, she's an amazing mother, a fantastic wife. She's just all of that in a bag of chips. A

former Navy veteran. I mean, I'm sorry, she's an betteran and she's a former I see you nurse, So look at that. She's pretty smart as she's bodied. Oh my god, I can't wait for you guys to talk to Ali. Ray my love, how are you? Thank you so much for joining me today? Oh, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it, of course, most definitely. Well, I have had the honors of being able to interview

you already, which we could kind of talk about it already. Um, and for that, guys, you have to stay tuned to Don't Cancel Me, Don't Cancel Me on Fuse December one, my new TV show. UM, I was able to have Ali. We had such a good time. We were drinking wine, we were being honest on and off camera. She came with her husband. By the way, he's so supportive of her. He's so sweet, he's so amazing. And I just want you added to tell your story for those that may

not know you, Um, I want to let them know. Originally, what did you study? How is your life growing up? And then the transformation from zero to a thousand? Yeah for sure, UM. So I mean growing up, I actually grew up and pretty like my family was pretty poor. Um. I had a pretty broken home. You know, a lot of toxicity in the household. Um. And so I went into the Navy at seventeen to just kind of get

away escape. UM. I think it spiraled me into being like an overachiever because then I went on and I got multiple degrees. And after the Navy, I ended up becoming a nurse. UM. And so I did nursing and excelled in that as well well up into my doctorate. UM. And then the pandemic hit. Yeah, the pandemic hit, and I think things just changed for me. I don't know really what it was, but it was like a mindset. I think, like a lot of us felt kind of

like a little underappreciated maybe, UM. And my husband I lost his job, so you know, we started to just like I had an Instagram, I would just like post things, um like, just like more like vlogging or beer reviews. And some girls at work have found my Instagram which led them to see that, Um, I also had an only fans um which, by the way, I'm sorry guys, just in case you're still now putting two and two together.

Alie Ray is that famous nurse, that famous veteran that was popular all over social media, like her story went viral like it went viral because she basically got fired from her job as a nurse for having an only fans page. Like, how unfair is that? Um? When you found out? You know, we'll actually know when you're co workers found out, because those were those nosey as bitches. They were over there hating and they got too fired. First of all, how did you feel that? Were you

friends with any of them? Did you share that you had an only fans with anybody at work? How was that? No? I had never talked about it with anyone, honestly, just my husband and I. And the thing is on the unit. Um, I was really I got along with everyone respected. It wasn't like when this happened, I was like, oh, yeah, I know it's probably that you know, I know who it was. I had no clue, and I knew, like there's somebody around me that like, it's along with me

every day that I probably eat lunch with. Um. That's what was the most heartbreaking. It was like it was such a vindictive thing. Like I could tell people were going out of their way to make this like an issue for me, and I was like, I've never done anything these people like. I was always so helpful, friendly. Um. You know, really it was really really like a blind side. It was. It hurt me more in that way, you know that I I felt like people were judging me

and dismissed everything you know about me prior that. I was a very educated nurse and I was super you know, ambitious and stuff on the unit and helpful. So it was really it was a really crappy situation. It really was. It's toxic. At some point, do you consider that it was almost a blessing that they found out and you got fired from your job? Yeah, people have asked me that,

and I think about that. I'm like, you know, I know I would have left eventually because the amount of money I was making, like it made absolutely zero sense for me to continue to work, you know, fifty hours a week on my feet like that. Um, I think it's just more of the nature of how I was pushed out and I wasn't ready. I still love what I did, and I didn't get a chance to come with like two terms. So I mean it was a

blessing because it excelled my business. Obviously, it basically pushed me out, and maybe that's what I needed, because, like I said, it wasn't any reason for me to be working at that time. I just I didn't want I didn't I liked it. I liked going to work. I

really did. Like I've said before, I think that people have a certain mindset of the people that do only fans without knowing that you can be an extremely well educated person, be a person of morals and all, you know, all types of values, and still do only fans because you're open minded. Do you feel that your family, friends, or whomever are being judgmental towards you for doing that? Does your family support you with your only fans account

or your kids? Yeah? So like my little sister. UM. She actually found out before I went viral, because she found a viral TikTok you know that she came across it. So I had a conversation with her. She was the first person outside of my husband and I that we told UM. She's very supportive. I don't speak with my mom or dad much, so I didn't never really was concerned about their opinion. But my children, I was incredibly concerned because my oldest is eighteen and I'm seventeen and twelve,

so the too older too. We we definitely had to take them to dinner, sit down, have a conversation with them, like UM in a vanilla way, you know, besides just busting out and telling them exactly what was going on. It was like they kind of grasped and understood and they respected it and they knew. I think for them it was comforting once they knew, like, Okay, you know mom and dad were both doing this. It's not like Mom's doing this behind that's back type thing. Um and so.

But the support has been great. I haven't had any problems with that. Talking about support, I know that there's so many toxic relationships or there's so many because I consider myself to be slightly toxic. Um, I been feeling like what's mine is mind? Like, if that's my dick, I'm not sharing with nobody, You're gonna show nobody now. However, Uh, your husband actually was cool as hell to support you with what you were doing. He wasn't like super judgmental

to you about it. How was how was that conversation because originally you shoot it off by yourself, cute pictures, boom boom boom. Then from there, I'm guessing you went to like, maybe let me just show a little bit of nipple, like all right. Then from there I was like, okay, you know what, I'm gonna as well, just show my

ass crack. And from an ass crack, it was like, look, I'm just gonna show you this, you know, let me just show you my old Like, um, how was that transition to to actually, you know, telling your husband, hey, listen, would you like to you know, join me in my own parents? Yeah? I mean I think you know, he's definitely still not. He doesn't like camera. He's very camera shy. He doesn't show us face on there. Um. I think in the beginning, you know, we had a lot of requests.

People would ask for stuff, and I've been in the beginning from my only fans, very very upfront with all my subscribers. I'm a very married woman. You are not gonna sweep me off my feet, like I'm not leaving him like so, I think it was important for me to for him to have a person take you know, this was important. It just was so. I mean, he's really grown with it, but it's certainly I mean it's something that there's things I do now on him that

I never thought I would. But you know, you grow with it and you get a little more what I didn't tell me, like what do you what have you done? Like everything we feel full, the full shebang. I mean, we definitely do everything on there. Um yeah, I said getting fun in your ass because we already found that out on don't cancel me. Your booty is not part of the deal. It's no, it's not happening. Yeah, it's scary. It's scary back there. It's okay though. It's okay though.

But I love the fact that he supports you. Um. I love the fact that your children and you you guys were such a mature you know, uh, you're a mature family to come together and a united family to come together and be like, look, we're gonna have this conversation with you. You know, we're adults where your parents were together, and um, we're gonna be doing this. Obviously,

you guys don't have to see it. I'm glad that it came from you and they didn't have to find out, like you know, someone in school or something like that that they could get bullied for or whatever the case may be. Does your youngest truly comprehend what an only fans is? No? No, I mean I think it's just more of like a modeling thing, um and stuff like that. Yeah, there's no, And I think it's still you know, he's twelve, but he's very young at heart. Still, he's more like nine.

You know, he's there's some room there where he'll have to you know, as he gets older, he'll understand more and kind of what's going on. But you know, it's kind of, Uh, it's weird because it's like it is like a body positivit thing. It's like very hard because you don't want to shame it. And the way you come about it, it's like almost like when you hide it or you try to like no, no, no, no. You know, it's it's almost like you're reinforcing that shame.

So it's been a really hard balance to really try to make sure that I'm presenting it in a way that you know, it doesn't come off that way. So it's, yeah, it's a learning process. It's it's not easy. I mean, I remember, imagine a lot of people in this industry have this issue with children, especially when you have three boys.

It's it's definitely talking about three boys. I know that there's a lot of single mothers or there's a lot of mothers overall period to listen to my podcast, and a lot of them may feel so conscious about their bodies. I'm not gonna lie, and I'm gonna be honest. Look, I used to wait to thirty pounds. My body has gone through a lot of you know, roller coasters. Sometimes I'm fast, Sometimes I'm skinny. Sometimes I think I'm think I don't know what's going on, like my body be

all over the place. Sometimes you seem me skinny, and then sometimes all of a sudden thing, I just gained like twenty pounds, so I have stretch marks, I have selling light, I got dimples. My confidence is late because no matter what, I can still get it. Period. I can still take your and so don't play with me. However, however, you also have an amazing story when it comes to your body transformation. You weren't always the girl that we

see today on only fans. At one point in life, you were a little bit thicker, a little bit stronger. Tell me about, um, you your confidence, how you were before, and how only fans you know, helped your confidence. Yeah, I you know, I started. I had my first child eighteen, and then I had another one in nineteen, and then another one a couple of years later. So I mean there was like all these years where there was like this babyweight that just kept putting on, and of course

it was super difficult to get off. I'm only five four, so wait, adds up, you know, really easily on me in my height. Um so I had lost like a hundred and twenty pounds back in my Yeah, and I was always, even in high school, kind of like a thicker girl. Um back then you would call thick, you know, early you know, late nineties. But now it's like it's acceptable to be curlier and thick, you know, amongst women at least men always liked us that way, but women

now are like, okay, I want a booty. But so I think when I lost the weight, there was definitely a shift in me. I mean, the things I could wear, I felt cuter. I got attention that I never had before. Um, my confidence went up. And I think my husband's seen that too, And you know, it was like it was happy for me because you know, to be so young and have all these babies, those are like my prime years and my body was like not the body of a twenty year old, you know. Um, and that was depressing.

So that really started a lot, and of course spiraling into this, you know, especially what I'm doing now. You're right, Like I remember thinking, who the hell would want to see me? Make it like I have a mom body in here, stretch marks tell you like the whole nine yards, you know, like just in body, a real body, a

real body. Yes, it's like not it's not perfect and so um that's what I liked about Only fans though, because that's kind of what they want, because let's be real, they could get all the photoshop stuff on Insta and everywhere else if they want to see the real thing. And it feels more candid, and it feels more natural.

And so for me that was like wow, like this is a real mean being put on there and people like it, and that that was definitely a confidence booster people from being like a regular mom, regular nurse, regular life. You know, I'm sure soccer or whatever sports in the weekends, right, tell me to take me through the first time. Yes, it's one thing. Listen, I'm not about taking sexy pictures because you guys have already seen my Instagram and you know I'm trying to evolve a little bit and cover

it up two seconds. I'm eager to all the time to be like, let me just show my ask one time. But let me just show my ask one time. But tell me and take me through the process of the first time you actually decided to, you know, have sex openly on only fans like that one time. Okay, look babe, we're gonna do it. So all right, you know, just say like that send you know that that tell me how it was for you to finally put up your first video. Yeah, you know. Um so even to this day,

I think it's the most natural one. It's not like stage, just definitely candid, so there's there's drinks involved because usually you know, we'll go to dinner, have some drinks, you know, you come home and it's kind of like, oh, let's just pop the camera on the tripod and you you know, and I think if you go into it thinking, well, if we don't like, we don't got to post it, you know what I mean, like, let's just film it. We don't like it, we don't got to post it? Um?

And what is we don't like it? What does we don't like it? Mean? What is it like a bad sex video? I guess like for me, I would feel like, oh, you know, like as a girl, be like oh I don't like that angle or I really chubby, or I don't feel like I look cute or I don't know, or like I look sloppy or whatever it might be. If it looks like which is probably the good stuff, right,

all the good stuff what they want? Um. But I mean at that point, you know, so I think the first time we did and we watched it the next morning, and of course I'm like, I can't even watch it like until this day. I'm like, just tell me if it looks good, like I can't. I'm like I just have like super embarrassed inside to watch myself. It's very

weird to get it. I've done I've done it, but I've never posted it because then, like in the moment when you're horning, like uh yeah, and then when you watch it the next day is like, what the funk was that? I don't want to turn it off? I know sometimes I'm like, who is this bench? What has happened here? But yeah, I think then we watched it when you know, the next day we're like, that's pretty hot. Okay,

let's just let's just throw it out there. And then people loved it and they wanted more of it, So then it gets to be like, okay, let's make another one. That was easy. Um. And so that's kind of how it first started to be honest. Yeah, so you went from like how was your first your first? I mean, look, I've never had an only fans. I've always been eager to download it. I've watched it through like other people's phones. Um, and then here I feel a little bit awkward because

I'm not gonna lie. I want to support you because now after getting to know your story and after getting to know you, I really actually like you like, she's such a sweet person away from what you may see on her Only Fans, and she's sexy and noddy and does all these great things. She's such a really nice person. So how was your first week? Like your first week on only fans? You went from doing like how much money? To like how did it evolve? So? I had started,

I started this page, people were talking about it. I signed up. It was kind of a pain, and he asked to be honest to sign up as a creator. Almost I even made a comment to my husband like I'm not I'm not doing this anymore, like I'm done with trying this because you have to opo your I D So I kind of actually created account and posted anything on it. I told a few people in the d M s. I went back in there like two

weeks later, and there was like forties subscribers. I was like, oh, ship, people are like paying and I don't have any content on there. So then I started posting our first month we closed out, it's almost seven somewhere in there, like seven thousand dollars and that was with maybe like eight picks. And I was like, okay, alright, so this this is real deal, Like let me post a little bit more with some effort, and then it just kept going and going.

You know. We we stayed around that seven to eight grand mark for a couple of months and then it was like fifty sixty now over three thousand dollars a month. I mean, and this we just hit one year on the ninth September, So that's all within a year, and I mean it grew very very quickly, very quickly, hundred thousand a month. How does your change? You know? It

was its dramatic. I mean it's like I think, I mean, I continue to work as a nurse until even when I was making sixty seventy grand a month, and I remember, looking back, I'm like, who the hell would do that? But I never felt like the money was real. It always felt like bullshit, like this is this can't be real? And it just kept coming in. And of course then I learned the platform and what makes you more money, and you know, making more videos obviously is where you

make a lot more money. And so it's like once you figure that out, you're like, oh wow, like this is a lot. And so I mean, for us, we haven't splurged. We bought a new jeep and we're gonna build a house. But other than that, like student loans have been paid off, credit cards. It's just the basic ship. You know, hockey got paid for. I mean, we haven't really splurged our checking accounts, just having gone zero to a thousand because a lot of people and I personally

know some people that have created their only fans. They studied getting a little bit of money and all of a sudden, now you see them full of jewelry. You know, they're driving expensive cards, and you know they're eating at expensive restaurants every day and just you know, burning out the money. Um. But you guys have said it to invest and do things differently. You know. I am still the girl. Like my husband laughs at me all the time because I still am like checking the bill at

the restaurant. Oh we didn't order that, you know. I'm like every time I still stop at TJ Max. Like it's funny because like I know, I can buy these things for myself. I could go and spend, but I love a good deal, and I just think, no matter what, I'm always going to be the girl. Like it's funny. Though I don't have a problem with the botox or what I don't care about the bill for that because that goes back into the business. But I think, like for me, I don't. I don't foresee myself ever living

in a very flashy life. So we're definitely gonna have a nice home for our family, um and that that will probably be the biggest and most splurgeous thing we we do. I want a good, nice, beautiful content room. There's stuff like that. But yeah, I think I think I'm still gonna be that girl wearing flip flops, cut off shorts and just very That is honestly me at

heart and so very humble. Yeah, yeah, you see that's nice now talking about how much money you've made on only fans and how basically this has um redirected your

whole career. How was it for you when Only Fans for two seconds announced the they were going to start taking away the sexual content out of only fans Because originally, for those I mean, I know, only fans, to my understanding, was just a platform where people could create exclusive content for their fan base, whether it was like exclusive music

videos or exclusive videos whatever. Little by little, especially during the pandemic, and started kind of like you know, changing waves, and then it became a little bit more of a sexual situation. UM, were you panicking like, oh my god, my whole lifestyle, my whole money, and my whole everything

can like go down the drain right now. Well, what was ironic is that news broke the same week that my story broken went virals, so obviously that it got it was kind of like motherfucker, you know, right only making the bank. It's like, okay, now you want to

shut down UM. But in my heart, honestly, what I felt like when that occurred, and I did a lot of interviews on this UM, people were reaching out because they were like, oh, yeah, you make it all this money, but now it's going to go away, you know, all this whatever. UM Only Fans doesn't have a search feature, Okay, so it's not like people can go on there in search and artists like, the cool thing is is everyone that's on your Only Fans is there because you brought

them there. They came from your I G or Twitter wherever else you're promoting. So I knew in my heart there there for me, and they came there for me so I could direct them somewhere else. And so I will tell you what that news that broke for me personally, what I foresee is I definitely don't want to put keep all my eggs in one basket with only fans UM. I don't trust that there may not be something in

the future. So I'm going to mirror my only fans on at least two other platforms, specifically, probably a platform called I Fans and maybe fans Centro, and I'd like to just mirror them that way. You know, I have the content everywhere, it'll all be the same. But that was ultimately goal. I haven't put that in a place ship, but that's honestly what I think you're gonna see a lot of creators do because it was scary. I mean some people that it could have put some girls back

on the streets. I mean, let's be real, they're making a lot of money on there. UM I didn't, I wouldn't have had that problem, but there are girls that that really really rely on that. You know what, I want you to talk about it, and now I'm talking about a more serious you know, the more serious aspect of only fans um for those that may not know, Only fans also gives a safer opportunity for girls who feel sexually liberated, financially independent, make their money from home,

from a studio, from whatever the case may be. But a lot of these girls originally started off in the streets and um, just in need of feeling like if I can't make my money home doing what I'm doing now, I might have to go back into the streets. Can you talk a little bit about it, um, I don't. I know that you're not from that side, but I'm sure that you've heard and you've seen other girls that truly appreciate this platform because of the liberty it gives you. Yeah.

I mean, all you need is a cell phone and internet and a data plan and you could literally make you know, a six figure income. I mean you could, you can do whatever. And I think that's huge because if you were in this industry, you know, you have girls who maybe worked in brothels out and the atta, or on the streets or in strip clubs, maybe things that they never you know, that put them in harm's way, and now you've given them an opportunity to be able

to to still make money. I also think about people that you know don't have the luxury being able to go to work period and doing this from home. These are the stories that I've heard that people that have come to me since my story broke. You know, they'll say, please help me, like I need to, I need, I need some kind of financial freedom, and um, that's terrible.

I mean, all the fans should be happy that they have thrided a platform like that, and so, you know, they could have a lot of people would have been in a bad situation real quick, for sure, sure, for sure, for sure. And then here's another important part. I never knew this two latest talking with you because I don't know. I guess in my mind automatically assumed like, yeah, they're making all this money from I'm thinking like a lot

of people do. And I know, don't judge being, don't cancel me, but I'm just being exactly a lot of and this is what it is. But I was just thinking like, Okay, all these girls are making all this money from only fans, blah bla bla blah blah. You know, they don't got no expenses this and that talking to you, I realized for those that are making like heavy money

on only fans, not the ones that are beginning. And you're taking like maybe two or three pictures and something like that, but the ones that are really like into this business full core. You guys do have expenses and this goes from hair to makeup to wardrobe too everything else. Tell me what it's what expenses look like for an only fans girl. Yeah, I mean if you're if you're

a big time on this platform. I hate that my story makes us look a lot very easy to girls, because let me tell you, to get to this level, it is a business and you are one or maybe two man show. Um, you know you have marketing expenses, you have promoting expenses. You know you have like you said, wardrobe, hair, you know, waxing, you've lighting, Um, there is some gym memberships you gotta do. I mean, if you get botox, what are all the things that you know you do?

I mean it is there is a Crapton expenses and a lot of it is you really should take your income and you know that's just being an industry, entertainment industry in general, and put it back into yourself and like in terms of marketing yourself and promoting. And you do have to do that, and that's very hard for people in the beginning to to comprehend. Like what I gotta give up like twenty grand a month ago. And

you know, but that's what we spend. I mean, we spend a lot of money a month putting back into the business and so um, so many expenses that go into it. It is not snap a pick, you're good. It is like, well, lingerie, you know, you gotta buy all you gotta keep it spicy, you gotta keep all the things you know going, and so um. We have a crafton expenses. A lot in taxes. Let's not let's not forget the tax talk about the taxes. Those that may not know. Yes, you may be making a lot

of money on the only fans. Bet okay, guess why you still gotta get that cartin and continue right back. How much in taxes are we talking about? Just to have an idea, Oh my gosh, okay, well, I'm this is my first year. So I in twenty twenty two. I am terrified because I went from a bracket making you know, maybe eighty nine gran a year two now I'm making a hundreds of thousands a month. I can't even imagine when my taxes give me. But I know

it's thirty seven percent, is what I hear. Now you can write stuff off, so you know, I'll definitely have someone to help me with that. But you're not. You're not walking away through. You're gonna pay, you know, hundred two or three hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes like you just will. And that's it's hard that. That's another reason I like Florida. I want to know, and another already asked you, but I want to know what is your un of view and how do you feel

about prostitution becoming legalized? Because that was something that I was thinking about, Like if for any instant white reason, because this is still a sexual service, if for any instant white reason, Um, you know, women had an opportunity of having like a license or whatever and being illegalized. You know, I I'm a prostitute or a woman that

provides certain sexual services whatever. And then on top and then the top of that, after they, after they, after you did your gold all, you know what I'm saying, beat up and stretched out and all these things. Now I gotta pay you taxes for that too. How do you feel about that? I hate the tax thing. I think that's insane. I think taking any of anyone's income just because you make that's that is a problem. Like the more money you make, the more they're gonna take.

And unfortunately it's like, but you work hard for that. You know, nobody just has that handed to they They get back to the community to fix the streets and you know, provide certain services for the community. So I guess, and yeah, I mean, I guess if your money is going it is it's it's hard, It's that's a whole

another topic in itself. But I mean, I feel like in terms of the prostitution thing, you know, I never want to hear I don't ever like the idea of the government telling a woman what they can do with their body, you know, and that if they want to. You know, models make money off their body by pictures. You know that it's very very er um and so that kind of that part sucks. And so to say legalized prostitutions will be wonderful if we could do that, um. But I do agree there has to be a safe way.

We can't, I mean, because there's you get the trafficking that comes into play and stuff, and that stuff worries me. So you don't want to make it easier for those type of people. But at the same time, you know, I like the idea license or registered or you know, some kind of thing like that. I feel like if there's a way to do it where it it definitely is safe and um that and you can and you can track these women down, because that's that's the most

important part. For example, being able to do it an only fans. It provides you a safe space for you to do it. Everybody knows you have to provide your ide like there's you know, we can track you down. Um. But for the girls that are out here in these streets doing it, you know, they're afraid to tell anyone. They're you know, they're afraid to talk about it with their families, or they feel exchanged or whatever. You know, they can get lost out here and then nobody would

ever even know. So definitely I think that that, you know, since we're still talking about you know, sexual services, Um, I think that that would be great. Now here's another thing that I'm thinking, because I'm was thinking as a businesswoman, as an entrepreneur and all that good stuff. You were trying to think of ways of making more money out of this. So you're making all this money out of

only fans right now? Do you see yourself maybe perhaps you know, growing into just the pornography industry and just like only fans could be part of it, But how about just taking it a step further? Would you do it? Um? I don't think so, because that to me doesn't seem as UM, it's not really me. Like I feel like what I like about only fans is it's my business, my it's it's it's my life, and it's it's really

cool that you have control. You have that control, and so I like that, and I like the non scripted. I like the natural candid you know, that's that's definitely fun. I foresee for me for my future, UM, definitely continuing and entertainment in general, like not just the only fans. You know, I have that always, But I like, um, you know, I want to educate. I want to talk

to people. There's a lot of people reaching out to me about helping them, you know, grow something from zero to six you know quickly like that and giving my tips and help people. So that's something that I have great interest in. I love these open conversations like this. This is stuff that I think needs to be talked about. And that's why you know, I'm I definitely want to have a part of that, and I feel like that's

where my sweet spot is going to be. I also was thinking like, if you guys have been able to create such an amazing team between your husband and yourself, UM, and you've been able to figure out, you know, the niche into being able to grow this brand, would you be would you be open to creating some type of business where you can help provide the same service and maybe commission off other girls that are working on Only Fans. Yeah, you know that's what's Only Fans does have a referral program.

It's not the greatest program, but it is kind of nice because, um, you know, you do earn a little bit of commission off them, not not from the creator's earnings. You know, you aren't. Only Fans gives you a portion it so it doesn't cost the creator anything. UM. The issue and that it's kind of nice because that means my time to educate and help and train and mentor

those people is worth it. UM Because certainly at this point, you know, you, when you get to this level, you start charging for time and that's that's really what it boils down to. UM. But I think, UM, in general, I kind of want to do something off of that too, Like you said, I really want to do some kind of master series or training program that you know, I could sell to someone and like have them under my wing and do live you know, feeds and videos and

one on ones and mentor shing. I want to be under your wing. Listen, I don't have an only fans because I'm scared. I'm scared about endorsements, my future. You know, in this industry, of the entertainment industry, there's a lot of things. I'm notna lie, I'm only but human, and I've thought about it. I've seen other girls do it. I'm like, ship, I could do it. I got titties asking the dot two like, I could be sexy. I

can try it, um. But then you know, there's this there's this a stigma when it comes to having an only fans where a lot of brands will be like, no, you know, you're not good for our brand because you have an only fans and da da da da. But maybe if you did it on the low, because I know that there's girls that use masks wigs. What have you seen on only fans, Like what type of fetishes or what type of like freaky stuff or people into an only fans. Yeah, there's a lot of That's what's

cool about all the fangs. You can make your business whatever you want to be. There's people that don't show their face that just do fee. You know that you could do what you're comfortable with. Um I tell you, I would consider myself a fairless shelter girl prior to this um in this industry. And when I came on here and the things people are asking, I literally thought they were jokes, some of them. And that's not to

be a disrespectful way, but they have to understand. Some of this stuff is so foreign to me that it was like wow, like that's a sexual thing for people, But um, I have there's there's a lot like for one I don't. We talked about one the other day on your show and about these people that are turned on by like sneezing and the anticipation of its coming. That was so rare to me and I actually like I was researching the psychology of that ship like all night.

I was like, well, let me understand this, but break it down. The anticipation of sneezing is like what to be like why just the you know, they like to watch the sneeze build up. The build up is very important and the tissues reportant. I ask you what boogers to like the snot and everything or no, that's another level, like you know what they do that one I asked. I asked these questions. I'm like, you know, do you want to see the sneeze? I mean, I don't know

what you know? So, yeah, there's there's like all different levels of it. Man. They're like very serious about it, and it's such good money because especially the fetish world, they know that, let's be real, they know there's it's a little weird and it's hard to for them probably to approach girls to ask these things, you know, and so when they find someone that's willing to do it for them, they are loyal as hell um and I

love it. I never want my people to make them feel like I think we use the word weird or different like loosely, but I think even they know, like, yeah, this isn't the norm, Like obviously not a lot of people are running around, you know, getting turned on by sneezes. But it's uh, they're very loyal you know, because they you know, they build that connection with you. But I love the fact that only fans let to be you know, sex really free. It allows women like yourself to become

financially independent by finding a different source of income. Um, you know, I am like judgment free zone. I'm just a curious cat. I'm curious to know about all these things because I feel that, like myself, there's a lot of people that are curious but don't have anyone to ask, and maybe are afraid to ask. If you had any advice for any girl out there, and guys too, Let's not think the only Fans is just for women. There are men out here making a lot of money out

of only fans as well. If you had any advice for some girl that maybe shy or scared or doesn't know how to take her first step, but really wants to get into only fans, what advice would you give her? I would say, you know, start off with what you're

comfortable with. You may know, okay, if I post a full frontal, I'm gonna get more money, But don't do that, because the last thing you want to do is start on this platform, make yourself feel like crap about yourself and have all these regrets, and then you won't be successful. It's okay if you start off and all you're comfortable showing is maybe you're booty and a thong, like it

is what it is. And I think if you maintain, you know, kind of let yourself build to what you're comfortable with, that's important because this this industry can really really mess with your psyche and it can build confidence or it can really tear you down. And so I think that's important to be okay with everything you do and make sure everything you have you do do you are willing to accept that that potentially could go public because it's real, people will take your ship and that

that is a hard thing. You know, you to this day, you know, there's certain things I don't do um on only things that people have asked me to do. I'm just not comfortable with it. I don't want to do it um And yeah, sometimes it's like but I'll pay you five grow and you're like, awesome, But I'm just not comfortable doing that and I don't want that out in the public. So I think just being real with yourself about it, because it's definitely a psychologue. There's a

there's a psychological shift. You're gonna have when you started only fans into where you become very successful on only fans. Okay, so there you go. Those are the best tips right now. You heard it from her. She's making three hundred thousand, three d and sixty almost four hundred thousand dollars a month, so she knows your ship. Oh, not to mention the fact that also remember right, give those tips too. It's

not just about the content that you post. You also have to get back into your business by getting a marketing team, right you said, what else you need to have? You you are going to be your own marketing team until you're willing to hire out and delegate stuff. But yeah, you you gotta. You have to be active on every social you have to. You have to remember people can get born anywhere for free. Why are they going to play for it from you? Because they want to see you.

So you need to make sure you're building your brand, your personality, you and that myself. That is more time than only fans, just building that exposure and that's important, very important, or you won't grow well most definitely, and people want to follow you on your social media platforms or download and subscribe to your only fans. Where can they find you. Uh, you know, I always tell people just to go to the alley raid dot com. I'm gonna has it is a link tree there has all

my links to everywhere. But I'm your most platforms. I'm the Ali ray A L L I E r A. You already know I want to download. I don't even have it on my phone. I really don't, but I want to download and only fans just so that I can support you. Because I know that you're doing great things with this money, for your family, for yourself, and you're an amazing woman. And I am inspired by your work ethic and the way that you're making things happen and inspiring other women as well. I love talking to

you guys every Thursday. Allie ray thank you so much for joining us today. I have had so much fun talking to you. I've learned so much and I'm really considering opening my only fans if I call you on the low, Hey, listen, I need to help me out. You already know. By day I want to know from my exact my exactly a Mada fans. Guys, would you like to see me with an only fans? If I

had an only fans, would you guys subscribe. I just want to know because like if I get a lot of people say yes, oh my god, I think I am I doing I think I am I doing it? And also go check us out. All of our episodes are available if you go to YouTube and write a model Niger or Exactly a modest so you can re enjoy these episodes. For more podcasts from my Heart, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you

listen to your favorite shows. You already know. I'll see you guys next Thursday on Exactly I'm

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