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Weddings Are Creepy

May 17, 20231 hr 22 min
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This episode delves into the "creepy" nature of weddings, tracing their history from ancient legal contracts to modern, personalized celebrations. The hosts discuss the societal and legal importance of marriage, critique rigid religious rules, and share their personal wedding planning experiences, including advice on communication and dealing with family input. They also explore the strange origins of common traditions and recount real-life bizarre wedding stories, ultimately reflecting on the essence of commitment and evolving marital norms.

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This week on Everything is Creepy: Lauren and Bobby discuss the history of the wedding ceremony, different religious customs, marriage perks, and so much more!

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Introduction: The Creepy Concept of Marriage

hey lauren hey bobby you know what's quite creepy what weddings marriage the creepiest wedding receptions why did we do traditions why did we have one the thought of legally binding contracts of two human beings together. Isn't that creepy? I mean, it's kind of creepy. It is. I know that this one's going to be an interesting one because I know that there's a lot of like bad history around.

Weddings? Oh, do you? You know this? So I didn't need to do any of my research? Nope. You know all I do for research is type in... One sentence into chat. Do you mean chat GPT research? Yes. It's our new art. The third person of our podcast is now. Chad GPT. Artificial. He's Chad. Chad. Chad intelligence.

they're a very good worker they're a very good worker they're very time efficient or efficient and it's cool because i can like type in my question and then i can go like because it takes a while to like it isn't just like here's all your info it like types it up as if yeah like a fast typer is typing it and then i can go like read something else that i go back okay copy paste oh thank you thank you copy paste edit yeah i know i know that's why

there's a lot of like modern day people that like i'm never getting married because because i want to be different and cool and i gotta be different well no it's like because they think that It's kind of like when people say, I'm not going to celebrate Thanksgiving because it has negative connotations from its history. Yeah, I think it's a very personal thing for me.

The way I look at marriage is it's a celebration of love and it's your commitment. It's your commitment to another person. And that is not for everyone. And that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I am not by any means saying everybody should get married. I am. I'm not. I'm just kidding. Oh, I was like, there are some people who.

definitely can't be in a long-term committed relationship with another person um also like i don't think everybody should have children even more so correct not everybody's equipped for either thing And that's okay. Yeah. I think society has changed a lot. I think marriage was part, it became part of society as a way for like people to, I guess, live and work.

Historical Origins and Evolution

together it's weird like i i don't know if you came up with this in your research but like did chat did chad tell you if weddings were started because of religion or because of um like medieval I Chad didn't say that I mean I had exchanges of goods I have the history I think it's more that do you want to know the history of weddings then we can go from there or do you want to just sure well I was gonna say because like

certain religions haven't been around since the dawn of time. So I would assume, I don't know. Well, I think you should know when weddings became a thing. I think religion took it and made it a religious thing because that's what they do. Yeah, but like, I know it is religious now. Yeah. Because it's in the Bible. Yeah.

But then if it's in the Bible, that means it existed before. Well, unless they just came up. I guess. Well, let me. So ancient times. I don't know this. Weddings date back to ancient history with evidence of wedding rituals dating back. to the Neolithic period, which is around 4300 BC to 2000 BC. So that's before Jesus. So I guess weddings were... established before religion yes and then religion took it and said this is ours now because the next i need to know that i i don't think we're here no

In ancient Greece, weddings were celebrated with a religious ceremony, while in ancient Rome's weddings were more of a legal contract than a romantic union. So I think what probably happened is different. areas of the world and different religions took marriage and you know used it how they wanted to use it

Gotcha. During the Middle Ages, weddings became more of a public ceremony with guests attending a church service and then celebrating with a feast. A feast? It was during this time that the concept of the bride wearing a white dress and veil was introduced. Yeah, I'm not a fan of either of those. I mean, I did love and I am I chose a white shirt today with all the white dress and I don't

Isn't that supposed to symbolize like virginity? But like, why is it not the same? Why can't, why don't men have to wear a white suit if they're a virgin? I know some do and have, but like, it's not a customary thing that they had to do back in the day. So like men could like. be with however many women they wanted and nobody would know but if women weren't but like also

So, yeah, so like customarily, if you were like, say you got married, your husband died because that was the only way to really like get away from them at that point. Their divorce wasn't really a thing. But like, yeah. But and then they remarried, they wouldn't be able to wear a white dress because everybody knew they would. They wear. I don't know. Black. The opposite. Just to remind the new husband. Like done this already. How messed up is that?

Yeah. I love the white dress. I do think that that's like, I don't know. Like, it's like, when do you ever really wear white dresses otherwise? Yeah. I mean, as a non-female who doesn't wear white dresses. I don't know how much I can say, but I mean, I think it's, I mean, it's just, I mean, I have them. I just like every now and then, I'm like, oh, I don't know. There's so many people do weddings so differently nowadays that you can wear any color dress. It doesn't matter.

In the Renaissance era, weddings became more elaborate and extravagant with wealthy families competing to throw the most impressive wedding celebrations. So it's like Game of Thrones? Yeah. Uh, times. That was, yes. Game of Thrones times. Game of Thrones times. Red wedding, all that kind of fun stuff. Every time when we rewatch, when we watch, not rewatched, I was watching it for the first time, but every time there would be a wedding.

I would be like, something's going to happen. And something happened every wedding. And then when it did happen, you weren't ready for it. And I knew it was coming. And you were like, oh, no. I wasn't ready for it. Death begin.

During the Victorian era, weddings became more focused on romance and love, with couples exchanging vows and rings in front of family and friends. In modern times, weddings have become more personalized, with couples often opting for non-traditional wedding venues, attire, and themes.

Personalized Weddings vs. Tradition

You know this. What do I appreciate the most about weddings? When you go to a wedding and you learn more about the couple and make it personal. I hate going to a very traditional wedding. I think it's boring. I've seen it a thousand times. And if I walk away from it, I'm like, oh, it was a wedding. It was a wedding. There's a bunch of religious gibberish that I didn't take in any of it. And I sat here for an hour and a half. And yeah.

I don't know if I go to a wedding and I know that like the bride and groom put some thought into.

things that they love and enjoy together as a couple yeah then I walk away like knowing more about them and being like oh yeah they are meant to be yeah I mean it should be about them but I think because of history and also families getting involved and then it's them putting their own like wants onto it expectations then it gets jumbled i get why you would yeah i get why things but like all things things change and evolve and

Now weddings, like I just like Chad just said, have become more personal and it's good. I think it's a good thing. I mean, if you want like the way we did, we will get into it more, but we did our wedding. Because we're not very religious people, but we had was a justice of the peace or no, he was a priest, right? No, he's a priest. He's a priest. Because my side of the family, I mean, both of your dad's side of the family is Catholic. Yeah. My whole side of the family is Catholic.

And I grew up Catholic. So even though I'm not a practicing Catholic, it was still like a big part of our family unit that we were now marrying into one another. We kind of like appeased everyone because the religious people got to see a priest and we did like.

a ceremony outside it wasn't long and it wasn't a lot of yeah there wasn't many but what's funny so what's funny even though we got married by a catholic priest and he gave us the stuff or whatever it's still like Catholics still would not recognize our union because we didn't get married at a church, which is such a like.

I mean, don't get me started. I know, I know. But like, that's such a, are you kidding me? It's like the loop. No, I'm not even going to go into it. Don't. I was going to say, there's another loophole. I just hate that like. churches and religions are so like by the books like black and white it's like being like in a lawyer's office until they need to

They're like, you know what? Even though you did all the you did everything that like a normal Catholic ceremony would do, but because you did it outside and not in our church giving us the money. Yeah, well, that's. then it doesn't count. It's like, as if God's going to be like, yes, you know what? I did not like, like if you got married outside in a church parking lot or like five feet into the church, like that's one thing I don't believe. Do they have outside churches?

I know because God needs to enclose you within a building. Because God's supposed to live in the church. He's everywhere. And don't get me wrong. If you want to have a church ceremony, like the main takeaway I want you to have from this whole conversation is you do what you want to do for your wedding. It is your wedding. Don't let anybody.

Like if I didn't want any aspect of Catholic whatever in my wedding, I wouldn't have. But because I thought it was important to like our families and we are now one family, I thought it was important to like have those aspects. But. And also, like, I believe in stuff. I believe in stuff. I believe in aspects of it, but I have lots of problems with, like, the... What's the word I'm looking for? Not industrial. The...

There's a word. I know there's a word for it. I don't like the rigid structure of religion. Does that make sense? Because I think that not everything is black and white. Correct. And thus why I took it. I like to take aspects of what I want to believe. But we're going off. That's fine. Well, it's about the wedding. It's like we technically, if you're religious, are not married. That's so dumb.

like technically in the eyes of the church we're not married see my biggest like the thing that doesn't make sense in my brain when it comes to like religion and that is that there's more than one religion so like yeah And into those religions, we are also not married. I know. So I guess it's just when do people take a step back and look at it with more like open mind? Oh, yeah, this really doesn't make any sense.

It's like, if you want to believe in a religion and follow its rules, then that's fine. You can't. No, I'm saying like, if you, but you got to realize it's, I don't, I don't want to get into it. It's just, it's crazy. You're going off track. I know. We're going off track a little bit. um but you know like we said it does but like weddings are have roots in religion yeah and i mean that's kind of like which will i also like yeah there's different things for like jewish weddings or

Legal and Societal Role of Marriage

We went to an Indian wedding. Everybody has customs that come from either their culture or their religion. I think that's great. It's unbelievable. It's a little inside joke. Yeah. That was one of my favorite weddings still, though. Yeah. My friend Dan, he got married to an Indian. woman and that wedding was incredible it was awesome it was awesome they know how to have a good way they partied they celebrate it was extravagant and wonderful to see because it's

ties into their religion, but it's also more, like, about just, like, celebrating the occasion. It's like a two-day event. Yeah. It's not, like, an inconvenience. Like, I feel like a lot of people also hate weddings. I love weddings. I love it. You don't want an excuse to get dressed up nice and eat and drink for free. Well, not for free. You're giving a gift, but tactically you're paying for it.

If you were going to a wedding every single day, yeah, I could get being annoyed and tired of it. But when you go to a few a year and it's friends and family that you like or love or whatever it may be and you're like, oh. I don't want to go. Yeah, I guess if it's a wedding and you hate your family. Yeah. But at that time, then that's more on you than whatever. Do you want to know why we have weddings? I thought you just told me. No.

Oh, Chad has more to say. Chad has more to say. Weddings are a way for two people to formalize their commitment to each other and publicly declare their love and intention to spend their lives together. Weddings are often seen as a way.

to unite two families which i feel is definitely more of like an old school thing yeah i don't think you need i don't think you need to unite families yeah that's definitely more that'd be like old school my siblings now hanging out with your siblings just because we're like i feel like modern days like people don't really i don't know it for sure happens in like

It is cool to see like families get together more and become friendlier, but I don't think it's, I think that's more of a, like a Game of Thrones kind of thing. Game of Thrones. Weddings create legal ties between two individuals.

providing them with legal rights and protections that may not have existed before, such as inheritance rights, property ownership, and the ability to make medical decisions for one another. That's where I think wedding or wedding slash marriage is the most important. Yes.

Especially if you're having like a family. Especially if you have children. Yes, I think. And that's why for me, when people are together and they've been together for a long time and they're not, they don't want to get married.

or like they've been engaged for a long time. That's where, to me, for me, if we never got married, say you had like, I don't know, a horrible accident. Yeah. Let's just say. Yeah. And you were in the hospital. Your mother would have the right to make all the decisions for you, not me. Yeah. And that seems weird to me, even though like she is your mother, but she hasn't lived with you or like been with you on a day to day basis since you were what, 18? Went to college. Yeah. So like.

In this time in your life right now, I feel like I know what you might want more than your mom. What do I want? You don't have a... We haven't talked about it. No. I would have to assume I like the idea of even though like I would have input from your mom. I wouldn't just be like, you know what I'm going to do. But if you were in a bad situation, we're like.

your mom was a terrible person and just took control of everything. I have no rights because we never got married. Like that's a scary situation. Especially like with kids and they don't, if you don't have all that documentation set up. Okay, it's kind of embarrassing how bad I am at budgeting. Let me see your charges. Ugh, fine. You spent over $600 on takeout last month. I can't.

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Navigating Modern Marriage Challenges

Granger for the ones who get it done. It's weird because you feel like, yeah, if you were living together and you had children together. That you should have. But then it does. It gets muddy. It's like, well, what was your relationship with your partner if you weren't married? Like, what if it was bad? Yeah. Like, I get why it's in place because you have to make the conscious decision to be like, I'm going to marry this person.

Which is also why I don't know how people just get married. And they're like, you know what? I've known you for six months. Oh, like quickly get married? Yeah. Or just get married because they're like, that's just what I'm supposed to do next. And like. I'm comfortable. Like if you don't think you should get married to somebody like.

Don't get married to somebody. Especially because. It is the hardest thing to get out of. And I think it's mostly America, but like 50% of marriages end in divorce. That too. And I'm sure it's probably shifted a little bit. It has. It's gotten better because either people wait longer to get married. Yes. Which I think. they're older or they don't get married at all yes i think waiting to get married is very important not everyone has to do that but i think what happens is a lot of people change

I'm not the same person I was when I was 21 or 18. Well, that's what I learned is everybody changes. Exactly. And you just have to hope that you're with somebody that's either going to change with you or be okay with that change and that your dynamic still works. Yes. And I think a lot of people.

like in the past they probably still got married for religious reasons and then or had kids they felt they had yeah or they grew apart and they're like oh i'm not this i don't want to be with this person or i was you know

If you're with someone for a short period of time and you weren't living together and then you get married and start living together and like, oh man, I. Well, that's why so many people broke up during the pandemic or got divorced because they had never had a life where they were both together.

all the time and they realized oh i don't like this other yeah i think it's very telling in terms of how we look at marriage and i think it speaks on to how we look at or how we should look at like gay marriage and other different types of marriages It's like not all marriages. That's why I never understood the opposition to gay marriage, because it's like like because the main thing was they were always like, well, it's going to impede on like.

marriage between a man and a woman. It's like, no, do you know how many messed up marriages between men and women? Like that's not, it has no effect on other people. It has no effect on it. If anything, they might have better marriages than yours. Is that why? To break it down simply, if. two gay people are in love but for laws and rules are not able to be married and they have to spend their whole lives not saying this is you know my husband or my wife or whatever it may be

Like, come on. It's so weird. If you are in a long-term committed relationship with anybody, you should be able to get married and have the same protections and laws apply to you. Yeah. It does not matter. It's like, what does it matter? It's definitely changed a lot. It's not where it probably needs to be. I'm not too on the up and up on it. And I know there's some states that probably are trying to get rid of it, which is.

absurd to me how a lot of states are trying to roll back things but take a step back and look at it's like why why are we doing when you look at it from a legal standpoint it doesn't make any sense to not allow gay marriage yeah It doesn't make any sense. It's a religious thing. And the people that like, oh, well, they can't have kids. It's like, well, they can adopt. And we. But also, but also there's.

couples that get married and never want to have children or can't have children. Yeah, exactly. What's the difference? That's the thing too, is that they, people who use the argument of children, it's like, like you just said, people don't want or can't have, yeah, or can't have kids. Then they adopt.

or don't adopt well he i remember i heard that argument from ben shapiro saying that's why he's against gay marriage because they can't like reproduce yeah and so then somebody said like well what about couples that either choose not to or can't yeah

And he basically said like, well, if you choose not to, that's also a sin and that's wrong. Like you're supposed to like very religious people believe that you are supposed to have children. Like it doesn't matter if you want them or not. Like that's your main goal is to like.

have children and then like bring them into the church. Yeah. I mean, but that was like, but that's a very old mentality. I mean, Oh, I know. I mean, you can jump back a hundred years, which isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. And.

we needed more people we needed kids but then when it was brought up like what about couples who like just biologically can't have children yeah and then he was like well they could adopt and it's like okay well so can people in gay marriages like you just did a full circle like that can't be your reason what's your next reason yeah uh two more points from chad here

Communication for Marital Success

from to kind of go along with what we've just been saying is weddings can be a way to uphold cultural or religious traditions with many weddings incorporating customs and rituals that are meaningful to the couple and their families totally fine which is again or to say like, if you are religious and you want that to be a part of your wedding, more power to you. I just think it's, it becomes an issue when you're like forcing it onto others.

and perhaps I like this part perhaps Chad every now and then Chad says some good stuff perhaps most importantly weddings are a way to celebrate love and the joy of finding someone with whom to share your life with Which I think in the end is the most important part. Because no one wants to be, I mean, most people don't want to be lonely or alone. And to have someone that is with you. Is legally bound. Is legally bound.

yeah i think yeah i think it's very important that's why it also leaves people to like try to work on things instead of just being like yeah i'll just leave yeah like not to say that like everything can be fixed because a thousand percent it can't

like not everything can be fixed. Yeah, I just saw this. But it's a little harder to walk away without trying. I just saw this video online of this couple who I think they were like in their 80s and they've been married for 60 something years and they were. discussing again how like 50 of marriages and divorce and he he had said then that that's mostly america i don't i don't know the stats worldwide

And he was kind of, I mean, the long and short of it, he was saying that like what happens is a lot of couples, they get into an argument or they have different views, whatever it may be. And then they divorce because they don't want to work at it or something. And he was saying how like we've had. problems and issues but we work on it we work you know but i think some people like you said just can't they don't have the wants to

Yeah. Work on it. Every, every time, if somebody was ever going to tell me they were giving up on their marriage, my first question would be like, have you gone to couples therapy or couples counseling or therapy? Yeah. If you've gone to that. Especially if you have kids. Like Blink-182 says, stay together for the kids. And this is obviously excluding any sort of abusive relationship. I don't think there's any. If somebody is physically or even like mentally abusing you, but.

again if you went to therapy you would start to learn that oh that's not okay that's not normal because a lot of people just think that's how relationships go sometimes instead of being like oh wait no normal other

Couples don't do this. This is not my fault. Okay. It's been interesting as I've lived to see how different marriages are. I've seen... uh people who are in like super happy marriages and you can just tell like oh they are yeah they're like they're a team but then there's also sometimes you'll look at people and you'll be like there's no way they're happy but then like you're around them and you're like oh no like

I guess this works for them. Yeah. That's what's weird. Like you could look at a couple on the outside and be like, there's no way they could be happy. And then you're like, But they actually could be. You don't know. And the same thing, they could look happy and not be happy. Everyone's different. And that's why I think like some people, how we talked about before, like COVID and people having to be like ruined or.

forced marriages apart is because a lot of people probably they have their significant other and then they go to their job they do their thing and they see them for a little bit and that works for them like that yeah that's like when we we talk to like your cousin and

husband before they said they would never be able to work together because they would just fight all the time and that was back when we were working together we've always worked together and we're fine with that but like not to say that every couple can work together they can't oh for sure like but yeah Yeah, we thankfully are very similar and like minded. So we don't. Yeah, we're also different. We're different and we don't. The differences that we have, we're not like stubborn about them.

We're not not that, but like, don't want the other person to change. Like, like you like going backpacking and camping or whatever. And like, that's not my favorite thing to do. But every now and then I'll try to do something that's related to it. But you would never be like, oh, my God.

I wish I was with somebody that was like, I feel like when you put your own, just like I'm doing YouTube and stuff and you're kind of like out of that sphere, I would never be like, oh my God, I wish you were like a YouTuber and like in this with me. That's good. You have to be your own person.

You have to still, but you just have to learn support the other person. Like if you want to go on a backpacking trip, I'm like, yeah, totally. Like I want you learn. It's something you enjoy and like, and same goes for me. Like you learn how to like that.

you learn how to like divide your time and yeah and the most important thing is like communicating with your partner and saying hey i want to go on this backpacking trip in a month and then you plan you schedule it and then you plan around it and then yeah yeah and if ice came back and was like no that's a bad time for me you wouldn't just be like well two bagger it out yeah like okay we'll go a different week but what about this one like and same it's like

We've got to start doing a marriage advice podcast. The biggest things I find specifically when people are having problems with their relationships is they're not communicating. That's the most important thing. They might be communicating to their friends or other people they know and like complaining about the other person, but never actually bringing it up to the other person. Also, trying to talk to another person without emotion is also a good and being like, hey.

Oh, it's always the you have to use UI sentiment, not so like instead of saying you did this thing that made me mad, you're supposed to say. I was really hurt when you did this thing. How do we work together and not have that happen again? Describe how it made you feel. Not blaming someone. Yes, thank you. You're not pointing out the false- This is like textbook communication. It's like not-

If you go at somebody, they're going to become defensive. That's their normal reaction. That's anybody's normal reaction. But if you instead go at it with like how you felt about what they did, then it's a different shift and you can usually talk. easier so that being empathetic i feel like is a big one just like being understanding and empathetic of another person absolutely on a day-to-day basis

And also learning how to pick your battles is another big advice. Don't go after every little thing that annoys you. And that's definitely the thing that you learn with time and like when to say something, when not to say something. But in the end, the most important thing and what I tell people who like ask me about marriage and stuff, it's like communication. Communicate.

Is the most important thing. There's so many people that are like scared to talk to their. And I get it. Like there's been definitely been topics I was like nervous to talk to you about, but it didn't keep me from talking about it. I was just like, oh, we got to bring it. I'm going to bring this up. Yeah. And it's not often, but like, and usually.

it's fine and i was worried for nothing yeah but i feel like some people just get so worried they're like i don't want to go through this i'm just not going to say anything but then instead everything just piles up to where you get to a point where

all this stuff that you're mad about that you never talked about just keeps going and then that one little thing happens and it's it's the catalyst for it makes it way worse than it could have been if you just talked about or the best is like not the best but like

A lot of people will just like endure it. Yeah, because they're just like, eh, what else am I going to do? What else am I going to do? Or and I will I will say I definitely know of people that have talked to me that said, like, I went like I talked to my husband about this and he was just like. not having it, got mad at me like so many times. I've luckily never had that with you. I can't imagine. I can't think of a time where I said, hey, you did this thing that like upset me.

We're like, why did you do that? That was like not nice. And you were like, oh, you're being overdramatic. I don't think you've ever done that to me in like a. a serious sense so i appreciate it but there's a lot of people on both husbands and wives or just boyfriend girlfriend anything yeah no i see it with my friends and like

examples of where i i can tell like they didn't communicate well with their wife or partner oh yeah every time if if there's like an argument or something or somebody's mad at somebody else i'm like well did you tell them yeah and they're like no yeah Which again, like we've said. They're not a mind reader. Communicating. And that's the most important aspect, you know, in marriage and in life. Or if somebody's like, they should just know. Yeah, no. No. No. They don't know how you feel.

They shouldn't just know you have to let them know you have. And I've definitely been. Yeah, I've definitely been the person to think that way. From time to time into the past, it would be like, oh, why would they do that? they should just know not to do that and i'm like no i should if they i don't want them to keep doing that i'm gonna have to say that's like any relationship though not even yeah friendships exactly what was the first wedding you ever went to

Their Wedding Journey: Planning & Details

The one that I remember the most is probably my sister's. I was like 10. Yeah. And all I remember is that. I was in the bridal party and I was sad because I was like excited to be in the bridal party. But then when the wedding came.

all my cousins were playing on this like playground that was like on the other side that and i remember her picking that venue and being like it's so great because all my younger cousins can like go play on this playground and i wasn't allowed because i was in the wedding party and i had to sit at the table

And take pictures. I was 10. You sure? Yeah, she got married at 18. She's eight years older than you? Yeah. Oh, well. You didn't know. I thought it was like six. No, eight. Whatever. I was around 10. Yeah. Yeah, the first wedding I can remember is my friend's mom got remarried. And how old was I? I'm trying to remember. Oh, I was gonna say, I will say, I remember my sister will probably laugh at this, but I like, like, um, not obsessed, but like.

I thought we got videotapes of her wedding and it was like one of those old school videotapes where they had like magical music and like transitions and they made it look like a fantasy love story. And I remember we would rewatch it. and over and i'd be like oh my god what a fantasy love story and like i would like we would go to her house and i'd be like can we please watch your wedding really yeah oh man

It was VHS. It was like a two set VHS tape. You know what's crazy? You know what's absolutely crazy is how much money it costs to have your wedding filmed. photography and photography and photographed and honestly besides the one picture that we have hanging in our house we have the album we haven't like we have the album which we what look through like

Well, who knows? Maybe Melody's going to be like, I want to see your wedding. In our video, we've maybe rewatched once or twice. We probably rewatched it shortly thereafter the wedding. Yeah. That's why they make them shorter now. Besides like Ian's best man speech that I like editing. That you show your friends. Yeah. Okay. It's kind of embarrassing how bad I am at budgeting. Let me see your charges. Fine.

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very i think like a four hour long thing oh my god they didn't edit it at all did they no they did so the first video was all edited with like music transitions and stuff and then the second video was like the reception but They went around and interviewed every single person and just left the full interview of everybody like saying, I hope you have a great life together. Happy life. Happy life. That's exactly what it was.

I'm sure. But we did like rewatching that because we would like poke fun at our family members for things that they said or what they were doing or whatever.

good times but then ours is like a it's like a highlight reel yeah which is cool which is that's what you can sit down and watch and not watch i don't know four hours a thought that popped in my head yeah my friend i was young chrissy we have to re-watch your wedding video my first wedding experience was very unique because they were remarrying i think it was her second like my friend's mom's that was like

Second time she got married. And I think it was the guy's like third baby. I can't remember exactly. So their wedding was very different. It was at their house and they entered on a fire truck that me and my friend painted. what yeah we like painted it it was it was a real fire truck he was this guy was very unique is are they still married no okay they are not married they were together for a while i think yeah but no um

But no. It was a very unique wedding and very different. And then my first like, not real, but like traditional wedding was my cousin's. And that was in 2010. That's crazy. Because didn't I know you then? That was 13 years ago. It was 1010. Maybe it was right before. It was right. I think we had just started working together because I think we started in like August of September of 2010. Yeah. Because that was probably that semester of college. Damn, how much time has passed?

I mean, I'm sure I went to a wedding before my sisters because I have such a big family. I don't come from a lot of the weddings from my family. I do remember they invited no children. And I do remember one wedding my mom and dad went to and I was mad because. Um, I think one of my cousins was there as like the flower girl. Why was they invited? Yeah, that was part of the wedding party. And I caught the garter. Oh God. Yeah.

I think I do. And I drank a lot. I was very drunk because I was I was like 20. The garter was something we did not have at our wedding. Oh, yeah. So should we should we talk about our wedding? Yeah. We got married. It was fun. We had a great time. i say i don't want to go through like the best and worst weddings because i don't know who's listening for the most part i'd say like there hasn't been a wedding i enjoy i've really enjoyed the

All the weddings that you and I have been to get like go to your wedding intake has probably gone up Oh, yeah, actually. Yes. We're also like all my friends have got what you have all your friends Yeah, yeah, which all got married around the same time. Yeah Cause they were the same age. And then you have all my family that has a bunch of extra cousins and yeah. Um,

But yeah, I don't even know where to start with our wedding. We got married in August of 2016. I proposed to Lauren in Central Park on her dating anniversary. We got married at a ski resort. yes we did and i mean it was the summertime in new jersey yeah summertime it's funny because lauren so i didn't i was working and lauren your mom and my mom went to it and i remember like pulling up to the

venue and be like oh it's right here no i think i found out before but i was very like showed you like the website yeah and then you didn't realize it was right next to mountain creek i didn't realize it was right i didn't realize it was like smack dab in the middle of mountain creek oh i've been coming here since i was a kid yeah um

Well, I think you trusted me to not pick something that you would not enjoy. We have very similar likes and we had gone to other wedding venues that we looked at. Yeah. Like only one or two, maybe. We did one. We were looking at another ski resort where we had to take the chairlift up and we're like, this is really cool. The elderly people. And then it was. Oh, and the weather was bad. You wouldn't be able to go up there. Which ended up our weather was beautiful that day. But still.

It was. It was fine. It was great. It was fine, by the way. Well, our main thing was we are not fans of weddings that have shuttle buses. That. Yeah. I hate when you go to a wedding and you go to the ceremony and then you have to. Which is like the majority of weddings. Yeah. And then you have to go somewhere else to the reception and the hotel. And then if the hotel is somewhere different, if like the hotel, if the ceremony, if there's three different places for a wedding, you like.

You are causing a big inconvenience for your guests. If the hotel and the ceremony reception is in the same place, I'll deal with the one shuttle or just getting a car or whatever. But when everything is in the same spot... Like Stephanie's wedding. Was all in one spot. That's what I'm saying. When they're all in one spot. Like John's wedding was in the same spot there. When you have your wedding in the same location, everything's in the same spot. That's the best. It works out, I think.

the best so if you are someone who's listening and you want some advice i'm planning a wedding i highly recommend and suggest and i tell you vigorously Have everything in the same location. I will be devil's advocate to that. Go ahead. Because my rule is always that you shouldn't care about what your guests think.

you shouldn't not do something because of what your guests or family will say. If you're going to like it, it's your day, but also it makes it easier for you. I think when you have everything, but also if you, so on the flip side of that, if you.

Don't listen to Bobby and you get a bunch of different locations. Be prepared for people to complain about it. And if you want to be like me and you want all your friends and family to continue telling you for year after year how awesome your wedding was, then listen to me.

Because that's what people do. Everyone always says how awesome our wedding was. You know why? Because everything was in the same spot. The after party was in the same spot. People that had like young kids. It was great because everything was in one spot. So like if your kids were like neat.

acting up or you needed to like run to the hotel room yeah like it was right there you could just go upstairs for a little bit and then come back down i gotta change your shoes so i want you to tell the day of our wedding from your perspective and then i'm gonna go from my perspective

Their Wedding Day Experience

Oh God. Cause our perspectives, at least like the getting ready part. The whole morning I had to get up super early. So the night before I made sure we didn't like stay up late. but we as in me and my bridal party. I was not responsible for you guys. I also had to be responsible because I was laying in bed and my friends came, yo, come on, we're gonna go. I'm like, no, it's 1230. Your friends were up late. I'm like, I need to, like, I should go to sleep, and I did.

That was the one thing I made. I remember Ian was like, I remember Ian was like, he said something along. Oh, you're like, that's good. Like you're being smart. Good. I said you have old wedding day to like drink. Pretty sure like Ryan, Ian and Justin kind of came in and I was like in bed. Oh, come on. We're going to.

we're gonna go like do whatever I'm like no I'm gonna lay I'm gonna go to sleep I gotta like you know be good for tomorrow yeah and then I think Ian was like that's like responsible of you or something that's responsible of you yeah Yeah, so the morning, I think we had to get there at like 6 or 7 a.m. It was horrible. Oh, my God. Wait, we should go back and forth. So you woke up 6 o'clock. Yeah, you were still sleeping. Definitely was sleeping. I woke up.

let's say between seven and eight and then i ordered breakfast for all of my groomsmen and then like my dad my brother and we all had like we all had like breakfast in my hotel room and then we were like hanging out chilling relaxing and then my friends started like drinking a little bit i may have had like one drink in the morning yeah and then oh yeah we had like mimosas yeah and then we so our where we had the Everything, it was that.

they had like a water mini like water park there almost there was like pools yeah it was a pool with like you can jump off like yeah so we went and like swam like all our guests were out there like what are you doing we got time we're having fun yeah he's sending me pictures at the pool meanwhile we'd been up

since 6 a.m. just sitting in a chair getting our hair and makeup done for hours it's so dumb not dumb but like yeah it's it's a process and it's because there's so many of you like that have to get done by like a certain amount of people yeah yeah it's a whole thing but we did order yeah we had like a nice breakfast mimosa like area so that was nice um and then yeah then we had the ceremony so we start getting ready

getting dressed and we did pictures am i like oh yeah i forgot about that we did that first and then we were drinking or everyone was drinking and we were like my friends were getting pretty like buzzed and i was restraining because i wanted to be coherent i had like a drink or two i wasn't buzzed or drunk or anything um and then we were like outside taking our pictures and we were we were having a good time we were being funny it was good

Yeah. One thing I will say, a bunch of people tried to talk us out of doing the first look. Yeah. And that's one thing I'm glad I like stuck to being like, no, this is what I want. Yeah. So basically, if you don't know. The first look is when you take all of your couple wedding photos before the ceremony, because typically you'll do the ceremony, you'll go to cocktail hour and then you'll go to dinner. So usually.

Like if you don't do the first look, you have to take all your photos during the cocktail hour and you miss the cocktail hour. That's usually like traditionally that's what you do. It's just not. But the first look was great because we did it before everything. So then we got to go to the cocktail hour and actually enjoy the food we paid for. Yeah. And then our photographer pulled us aside for like 20 minutes. Take some really cool photos at night. And that was it.

Yeah, but a lot of people were trying to talk us out of it being like, don't you want the first time for him to see you like?

walking down the aisle in front of everybody and i'm like no disney fairy tale but also like i'm the type of person that i don't like attention on me so i would rather like and also the whole reason you're getting all like beauty you're supposed to be like feel the most beautiful you ever have like it's technically to get married to your husband so like he's the main person that matters seeing you not everybody else yeah

It's not a show. I mean, it kind of is. So I didn't care because they were like, you're not going to know. Like our bridal parties were there and our parents. That's all I care about. Those are like the closest people to us that. Have you ever seen when they do the first look and the best man will be dressed in the wedding dress? I was hoping Ian would do something like that. That would have been awesome.

Yeah, we did that. We took all our pictures. What else was nice was we got to say hi to a lot of people during the cocktail hour, so we didn't have to spend the whole reception going around saying hi to everybody because nobody saw us during the cocktail hour. It's just, it's like...

It's much more enjoyable because a lot of people what they'll say is the bride and groom will be like, oh, I don't remember anything for wedding. It all happened quickly. I mean, I still was very busy. Yeah, we were busy, but I remember like I remember parts of it and I don't remember like having to like.

Go walk around everyone. Oh, thank you for coming. Yeah, we didn't have to do that. Yeah, we did it during cocktail hour. And people were like, oh, you're here now. We can come up and talk to you. It was great. Because it's more.

casual where everyone's just kind of standing around having a little bite to eat getting a drink everyone's like excited because you just did your ceremony yeah it's the much it's much if you are not someone who is like a traditionalist and is that you want to do something that's different or cooler, easier, go that route.

for sure yeah the first look helped a lot with us enjoy actually enjoying the wedding so we got we got married outside and thankfully the weather was very hot cooperating my cousin almost passed out it was hot it wasn't it was like in the 80s

Let's say. Yes. It was hot. We weren't like dying out there. And it was a short ceremony. So it wasn't too bad with like. Yeah. Yeah. And it was funny because like, I think I'm a pretty emotional person. So I'll cry at movies and Lauren will be over there stone faced. So I just know it's a it's fake. I know it's a fake movie. So I was good during our wedding. And then I at the end, we like went over and I talked to my grandma. She's like, oh, Poppy, my grandpa who had passed.

a year before? He's like, oh, he would have loved this. And that got me. And I started bawling. And my cousin comes up to me. He's like, oh, you're good? I'm like, yeah, it was good. And then Omi had to say that. Grandma coming in with the... Yeah. Just innocent. They're like, oh, Poppy would have loved this. I'm like, oh, I know. that was so that was that then we did the reception and we had like cool things lauren because lauren's

Uh, father had passed. We did a, she did a really cool like first dance. That was one of the coolest. That was awesome. Did you come up with that? No, I saw, I think I saw online somewhere that a girl had done that. I was like, oh, so I have a lot of like uncles. I have a brother, brother-in-law. And then I have a stepdad and a now father-in-law at this point during the wedding. So I my idea instead of doing like because you could do the the sad.

because at first people were like oh are you gonna like dance with your mom to like a song that you would have danced with him and i was like that sounds so sad i was like in the middle of us having like a like supposed to be like the happiest day of our lives yeah so instead um I gave like a little speech beforehand to explain to people what was going on, but I had paid somebody on Fiverr to compile like all of my dad's favorite upbeat songs because he was super into like music.

So all of his favorite upbeat songs, we compiled into like one mega track. And so it was a little longer and played that. And during the music, I had all the like. basically father figures in my life yeah come up including like my brother and whatever to come up and share the dance with me so it was cool it was like a cert we have cool photos from it too it was like a circle of all of them and i was in the center and then they would each like take turns coming into like

dance real quick dance like yeah regular dance not like fat it was slow dance or anything um they would come in real quick do it and then go out and the next person would come in it was very cool it was it was a highlight yeah um and then we did another cool thing was at like towards the end we did like, cause Lauren and I love music and like met through music. We did, we made our own like music mix.

Of like non-traditional ways. Yeah, not like rock songs. Like rock songs. Yeah, it'd be like one of my favorite songs, Lauren's favorite song. One of mine, like back and forth. Oh yeah, that is how we did it. And we invited, we're like, all right, everyone. And the music was like, great. We had a really awesome DJ.

And it was great during it. But then we like we're like, I don't know. We did this thing. So we're like, everyone wants to like rock out. Come on up. And we like had that was like seven minutes or something long. I think. Yeah, that was really cool. I did lots of little.

touch it i don't know like i remember thinking back to at our old house when i was doing all of it and i was like i was it's crazy i was working my office job with the nick i was with the knicks then right no yes because i was at On Wall Street. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I was, yes, and that's why we only did the honeymoon for a week.

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I had a dream about that. I have dreams every now and then about my old job at Wall Street and my boss. And I had a dream. I was back there again, but he was, like, super nice and was giving a speech about how, like, everyone, I want you to, like, communicate with me. Like, so weird. Anyway. Interesting. Sorry. Well, at the time.

I was, uh, what's it called? Yeah. I was working with the Knicks, which was like between 40 and 60 hour work weeks. I was doing YouTube, but it was like a side part-time like had just started. Like, I think I was two years in at that point. Um, and then maybe three years. Uh, and I was planning the wedding and I was doing everything myself. Like I was, I think the only people I paid to do stuff was the fiver music stuff.

Everything else I like found on Etsy, printed out, like cut everything out. And what we did was our centerpieces. I was also very proud of which we found these like terrarium things like these glass enclosed. uh terrariums and we had the florist put like succulents and all different things in it and it was and the little there was a little note that went along with each one and it was basically supposed to be like central park because that was where we like

That's where we got engaged was in Central Park. So that was no nice. And everybody got to take one home. Not everybody. Whoever like at the table at the table wanted it got to take it home. And I still have we still have one that somebody left.

I remember your aunt and uncle were really, or your aunt was really excited. She's like, we can take these. I was like, yeah, you can take it. It was a nice, it was a nice enclosure thing. Yeah, that was another little touch. Oh, each table. Oh, each table had a musical number. Like each one had a number. um and it each had a lyric from like one of our favorite songs uh of each like band yep i think there was 12 of them that also i designed those myself you didn't you design our save the date

I did. It was a lot of work. Yeah. It looked like a concert ticket. Oh, that's right. Magnet. It was a magnet concert ticket we still have upstairs. It's very cool. Yeah. See, that's. That's because that's important to me is little details. But if it's not important to you, then don't feel like you have to do it at your wedding. So we had the reception, had a lot of fun. And then we went a lot of dancing. Then we went upstairs to the bar at the after party. The first after party.

Don't tell any personal stories. I don't know who's listening. We had a lot of fun. Not us, our friends. Stuff that happens. Our friends had a lot of fun as well. Our friends had too much fun. And then we went to the second after party in our hotel room. Yeah. And it was on the like first floor of this like three years. I saw people were like, you don't want to be alone on your wedding night. And I was like, we live together.

I see him alone all the time. I would rather hang out with all you guys. I don't see you guys all the time. We have a honeymoon for a week. We're good. We were partying. We were outside. Where the room was, it went outside. the hallway there was like a big glass window so people could like walk by and see us hanging out yeah random people coming and like hanging out with us and then we went to bed like four o'clock and woke up at eight i remember yeah i was dying yeah the next day

Post-Wedding Reflections & Advice

And then we were supposed to then we had a we had to leave for our honeymoon like the next day after that. Yeah. Well, if we got married on a Saturday, we left on a Monday. Yeah. We had like Sunday. If I had it differently. I mean, I know we had to do it that way because of work and stuff with taking off. But if I had to do it differently, I would say space out your leaving for your honeymoon a couple days after your wedding, because I remember.

We went home. Remember like Yami and Kyle had to come. They came back to our house to wait for their car because their flight wasn't until later, which was fine. We hung out with them. But then by the time they left, I was we were running on like no sleep. Yeah, we were dead. And I had to we had all the flowers at our house. I was like, we can't leave all this.

food and flowers out it's all gonna go like when we get back to the house it's gonna smell like death yeah in a week so we had to like do all that i had to make sure we were packed i was dying by the time we got to our honey like i mean the honeymoon was amazing but yeah but yeah

That's another another little tip. Don't go on your honeymoon like immediately after your wedding because you should take some days to like definitely take like and relax. Like I would have left on a Tuesday. So like we got married on Saturday.

Then it's the day after Sunday and then like take a full day off Monday to just do nothing. I'm saying a full day off Monday and then leave on Tuesday. I think that would have been good. Yeah. Because Sunday we were obviously exhausted. Yeah. And then we could add Monday to like recuperate.

And get everything. And then get ready and then leave Tuesday morning. I think that would have been. Yeah. But you can't always do everything you want. But honestly, I don't have any other regrets for our wedding. I loved my dress. It was comfortable the whole time.

That was what's funny. I went to go get my wedding dress and they ask when you first get there, like, oh, like, what do you have in mind? What's like, what do you what's most important to you with your dress and whatever? And I said, I want it to be like. not strapless, no strapless dresses, and I want it to be comfortable. And she was like, that's a first. But that's your main priority. I was like, yep. I was like, that's it.

I want to look like a princess I hate strapless dresses I think it's very rare that it looks really good on somebody yeah Very rare. And you have to pull it all night. I feel like you have to be a very fit person. Yes. But also like... Or some people are like, oh, you have to have like a chest to make it look good. No. If anything, it makes it look worse because they're just drooping. Yeah. And the whole time you're like trying to get it up.

And then if you have like smaller chest, I feel like it makes you look even smaller. Like there's so much more flattering dresses. It makes me so mad. Strapless dresses are not flattering. They want to show them shoulders. And I will say the past, like recently, what? I was just.

I was going to say it so God can put his hands on your shoulder. Oh, my God. Skin to skin. I know it's like a traditional wedding thing. I get it. If you like it, sure. This is definitely just a personal preference of mine. But I will say in recent years, almost every wedding I've been to, they haven't had a strapless dress. So I think it's like maybe going out of style. Yeah. Which I'm excited about. Yeah. I was before my time.

Yeah, literally, we went there and there was so many dresses that they had that were strapless, so it really narrowed it down. Oh, non-strapless? All right, we got like four of them over here. Yeah, it really narrowed it down. That's good. Which made it easier, but yeah, I loved mine.

Yeah, I never liked. Yeah, there's no other regrets, I think. No. Besides the honeymoon. I enjoyed my suit. I wish we took a longer honeymoon, but again, that was dictated by us both having jobs where we didn't take off long. That would have been nice. And waiting at least an extra day in between.

I was happy with where we went for sure. Definitely could have spent a lot of time there. I want to go back there. 10 days. I feel like 10 days is the minimum you need for a good, long vacation honeymoon. a week it goes too quick it's just sad because it's like you only get to take a honeymoon once yeah well it's dictated ideally work ideally yep and then i get back to work and i get back to work and be like oh you're you're back already like yeah y'all you

asshole said i can only take a week off so dumb at any wedding my favorite part of the food situation is cocktail hour every time yeah i will like and you only have it for an hour so i just try to go i remember cody and blight's wedding was a good cocktail it was really good food there

I remember we always have like a home base. Obviously, John and Nicole's and Stephanie's because that venue is incredible. Oh, yeah. There's a martini ice line. There was like an Asian. It was like Asian cuisine. And then like. I think they had like a taco, like Mexican cuisine, and then they had like Italian, and they had like the seafood area. Oh, my God. And some people do like the mashed potato martini glasses. Mashed potato bar. I'm all for.

Yeah. It's my favorite thing. I feel like cocktail hours should be cocktail two hours. Yes. Should be. Cut the wedding down. I want the cocktail hour. Yeah. To be longer. You know, it's funny how like it's also where people are drinking the most. I feel like. Yeah, it's in that because then when you go into the reception, it's loud and you can't talk to people. People want to dance. Then you want to eat. Then.

Then you have to wait in line for the mini bar if you want. Whereas cocktail are usually like more bars and they already have them out. Oh, and they're bringing around drinks for you that are already made sometimes. It's funny the meme about how like the best man speech is always like. really good and really funny and then the the bridesmaids is always like i've known lauren for 10 years oh my god can i tell you yeah do it can i do it i have not

Besides my sisters, my sisters, your sisters was very good. But what's funny is when the guy so the guy that was trying to or the DJ, he was like, OK, so we're going to have the best man speech and then we're going to have your sister speech. And I was like, no, no, no, no. I was like, we have to change that order around.

He's like, oh, why? I said, I was like, because I know my sister and she's very sentimental. And I know that she and I said, also, our dad is past. So I guarantee that's being brought up. I was like. I said, and she's very good at writing. So she is going to make people cry. I would rather do the crying sentimental thing and then follow it up with like the best man who's like.

i was gonna say a comedian but not oh yeah he's like the funny guy of our group like i guarantee so he was like okay good call and it was because she did make people cry the first one and then he followed it up and made people laugh and then we went on to celebrate so like it was the perfect Yeah, I did enjoy hers. She was not the standard like member. Yeah.

There's so many bad bridesmaid speeches I've had to sit through. So many. Girls, what are you doing? Like, I've never gotten to give a speech, but... For the love of God, if I ever get asked, I'm going to work so hard to make sure that that is a good speech. All I can think of now is when we went.

to Cody's wedding and Blight's bridesmaids were like I've known Blight for like five years and I and I you I audibly said oh that's it and I said it way too loud oh god I felt so bad but it was just like a natural reaction because I was like Not everybody has friends that they've known. I know. I didn't mean to insult them. It was something I meant to say like to the person next to me, but because of how quiet it was, because of how terrible the speech it was.

Oh, God. Ladies, if you are a bridesmaid, please don't just give inside jokes that nobody else that has hung out with you knows. You could sprinkle in one. That's fine. I'll give you that. But if your entire speech is just- Remember Mexico. Remember Mexico. It's just like, okay, nobody else knows what happened in Mexico. Do you want to tell us a cool story about it? I remember the first time Lauren met Bobby and I was like, oh my God, I can't believe it. Oh God.

I don't understand why it's so bad. Yeah, I don't know. It's a meme. It's a very real meme. I think I also think because there's been a lot of like really funny best man speeches that it just like. Although the last one we went to, I wasn't a big fan of the best man speech. I thought it was actually.

Was it very put off? I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear it. But what I could hear, it felt very like they were talking more about. Was it a bridesmaid speech? They were like trying to talk more about like, I don't know. I just didn't like it. I was off. It was off putting to me. Oh yeah. I, I will say there's, I mean, not ones I've been to, but I've heard of some like bad best man, man speeches where they were like, you said things they shouldn't have passive aggressive.

or like say oh about like the bride yeah i can't believe he married her i didn't think it was gonna happen or like trying to be funny but just coming across as like being a jerk yeah yeah i mean

I remember when I told you that I wanted him to be the best man. I'm like, yeah, I picked you because I know you're going to give the best man. I don't really like you. I just know you're a good speaker. No, I've been very lucky that I have friends that I've known since I was like... toddler so it was like there was probably two or three guys i could have picked oh so wasn't that what happened at john's wedding he had two of them he had he couldn't choose and then i so

Me and Ian in like eighth grade were like at the peak of our like friendship and we, and I wrote in my journal about, I had like my best friend Ian and I wrote like this long thing and I remember like I read it at the, at the.

Remember the rehearsal? And I read it and then I gave it to him. He was like, what the hell is this? I forgot me and you gave speeches at the rehearsal dinner. What the hell? I don't remember anything else at the rehearsal dinner besides that. It all went very fat. I think.

Because you're just concentrating on so many different things and making sure everything is good. I think I was too nervous at the rehearsal dinner. I thought the priest wasn't going to show up or the flowers were going to be bad. Any other creepy aspects of our wedding?

Or any creepy aspects? No. Not at our wedding. My one friend complained that the hotel was too much and I'm like, I don't know. Oh, too much money? Too much money. That was like the cheaper one. Yeah. In the area. He was being a jerk. He didn't come, so. Oh, he's not even really like. I know. I think that was his excuse to not know. That's fine. To be fair. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I don't. There was no ghosts in our... Planning weddings is very creepy. Because you get input from everyone. And it's like, oh, you're going to do this? You can do this? You should do this? And it's like, no. Just... Just chill. Just chill. Let us do what we want to do. We're adults. And it was fine. I do remember the best was my mom said, you're going to like.

do the music that like the older people know in the beginning. Right. And not just do like, I think she thought we were going to play like club music the whole time. I don't know. So then I literally like said that I said, I will make sure the DJ knows that.

And so I told the DJ and he goes, oh, oh, do like music in the beginning that everybody knows and can dance to. And then like toward the end, do more like party-ish music. And he goes, oh, so you mean like every other wedding? And I was like, yeah.

My mom wanted to make sure that you knew. Yeah, we had a great... Every other wedding, the way that every other wedding is structured music-wise. Okay, I got it. Remember Chris and Kevin had a dance-off? Oh my God, that was great. That was funny. So great. You really want to be better with your finances. You try to put money away in savings. You look for deals. You wrote out a budget once a long time ago.

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Unusual Wedding Traditions: Origins

Would you like to hear some creepy and weird wedding traditions? Yes. And why they are, how they became about? Sure. All right, let's go. I know you told me some of these. Yes, I did. It was funny. I was telling James some of them and he had no idea. So this is going to be a learning experience for everybody. Tossing the garter and bouquet.

What is the garter? Let me talk and I'll tell you. Tell me now. I don't think it tells you, but let's just listen. In this tradition, the bride tosses her bouquet to a group of single women while the groom... Or Scott. While the groom removes the garter from his bride's leg and tosses it to a group of single men.

So weird. Is it guarding her virginity? Yeah, I don't know what a garter is, actually. I need to look that up. What is a garter? Like, what is it for? Never been laid to keep. Oh, keep the stockings up. Oh. I had no idea. It's probably not doing that anymore. What do you mean? It probably isn't used to keep stockings up anymore. If I don't know about it, then I am a woman. A woman.

um so the garter toss that's so weird so you are gonna i remember when they asked us we did do the bouquet yeah right i think yeah we didn't do the garter because i thought it was weird That you're taking an article of clothing from me. Yeah. Being like, oh, she's mine now, fellas. Who wants the remains? Well. I think that's kind of how it started. To sniff at night. Oh, my God. This was on her thigh. It's just so weird.

I don't know why. I get it. It's tradition. So the garter toss likely originated from the medieval betting ceremony. Oh, God. That was in Game of Thrones. The betting. So weird. Old school couples didn't want to. wait long to consummate their marriage they were expected to do the deed soon after exchanging vows in some cases witnesses were required what the groom was allowed to remove his wife's under things and fling them to the waiting

crowd as evidence of their successful consummation. Yeah, I did it. It's so weird. Why does anybody care? I guess if you were. waiting till marriage and i'm get i get assuming back then most people i get the being excited part but the part with like making sure other people were involved because i think it was more along the lines of people were waiting

So they were married. And then it was like, all right. First time. Woohoo. I know. But like, why? Like if somebody was like, hey, we're like, because people were barbarians back then. Like in Game of Thrones, where they like carried them out to. force them into a room to like do it right then like that's weird i would not want to be involved in that that's what i don't do anymore that we know maybe they'll bring it back i'm sure it happened somewhere um the first look

Well, now they do the, they do the like send off thing sometimes. Like my sister had that. Oh, they go in the car and like the things. Well, there's that. Or there's like some people do the sparklers. And it's basically like when the bride and groom. Yeah. I don't think we did that. We did anything like no. We just had a last. Oh, like you're supposed to watch.

the bride and groom leave and like go to their honeymoon suite but you're basically like saying like bye enjoy like doing it in your room me mommy and you were like who wants to come hang out with us yeah we We're going to play guitar in the room. Yeah, my friends had played songs. And talked to strangers in the hall. It stayed up. It was fun.

The first look. Some couples choose to do a first look photo shoot where the groom sees the bride in her wedding dress for the first time before the ceremony. While this can be a sweet moment, some people find it strange that the couple is breaking with tradition and seeing other people and seeing others.

Oh, I also know why some people don't like it. So there's this like superstition that if you see the bride or groom or whatever before the like before the wedding, that it's like bad luck to your marriage. But like. Whatever. Sure. Sure, that's what's going to do you. This is what we talked about last night. The father giving away the bride. In this tradition, the bride's father walks her down the aisle and gives her away to the groom.

Fathers would give away their daughters as brides to square up debts or settle disputes. You know, it's funny. It's like when you say you're like, oh, that's sweet. And then when you look at you, you're like, oh, that's sweet. I'll give you my daughter. Is that good?

Can I get the land now? Modern brides are not being offered up to the groom's family as a bride. At least one would hope not. So the tradition remains as a gesture of goodwill towards the father. Yeah, I get like reshaping it to be like. It's still patriarchal of being like, I took care of her as the man. You're the man that will take care of her. Yeah, I get it. It's very.

I mean, like, to be fair, if my dad was alive, I would definitely have still done it. Like, that's a big moment for a lot of fathers. Yeah. I had my mom and brother both walk me down. They gave you away to me. They gave gave you away. What did they get? Did you give them something land or? yes i gave them both i bought them a what is the deed the the deed to the uh no remember that scam and you could buy land and iron oh that was scotland scotland yeah

I bought them a square foot of land. Creepy wedding photos. Some couples choose to take unusual or creepy wedding photos such as posing with fake blood or using props like skulls or weapons. I think that just goes to show you how times have changed. I do know some people like getting married on Halloween. Yeah.

I would love to go to a Halloween wedding. When I was looking for like creepy wedding things, a lot of it was like creepy Halloween. Yeah, because there's some people who love maybe Melody. She loves Halloween already. She can get married on Halloween.

This is a Southern thing, burying the bourbon. It is tradition to bury a bottle of bourbon at the wedding venue one month before the ceremony to ensure good weather on the wedding day. That's funny. We didn't do that. Do you dig it back up and then... Drink it on your wedding. No, the ground absorbs it. The money or dollar dance, which is something we experienced for the first time. That's a great. It was a Greek thing, right? That they.

Let me explain it. In this tradition, guests pay to dance with the bride or groom, usually by pinning money to their clothing. The money dance is a cultural tradition at many wedding receptions in which guests offer the newlyweds money. to dance with them or shower the couple with money.

The custom which you'll find variations of in Poland, Greece, Nigeria, Philippines, Samoa, Fiji, Tonga, Portugal, Cuba, Latin America, Mexico, Eastern Europe, and the United States and more is meant to help establish the couple in a new life together. Show how much they're loved and appreciated. It was very interesting. I was torn between thinking that it reminded me of being at a strip club. It's what I thought. But it's also cute because I get it's a tradition. Yeah. A cultural tradition.

I enjoyed watching it. I don't think we gave any because I didn't know about it. I don't think we had dollars. We didn't have any dollars. Sorry, we gave a check. It's okay. The tradition of giving an engagement ring dates back to ancient Rome, where a man would give a ring to his betrothed as a symbol of ownership. This is full of ownership. Throwing rice. Oh, yeah. Well, throwing rice at newlyweds.

as they exit the ceremony is a traditional way to wish them good luck some people find it problematic due to concerns about the impact on wildlife i do remember somebody told me that that if a pigeon eats it they die or apparently whatever as a result some couples have switched to using alternatives like bird seed, which I think is a little weird. Yeah. Bubbles. Bubbles. We've been sparklers. That was at Yammy's wedding. They did. Yes.

All right, here we go. The bride's veil. We also talked about this. The tradition of wearing a veil dates back to ancient Rome, which was originally intended to protect the bride from evil spirits. Oh. And it's a symbol of virginity. Several sources claim... Wedding veils were used in the case of arranged marriages so that the groom was forced to marry his stranger bride.

Sight unseen as noted in Richmond Times Dispatch. It seems veils are a holdover from a time in which weddings were more about financial transaction than love matches. I always thought veil is odd.

yeah i didn't do one i think i had one so like the modern way to do it is you could get it like in a what's it called in like a headband and then it flows behind you yeah i don't i think i had one i thought i had one that did that but I didn't we didn't do the like I haven't been to a wedding where they do the face reveal thing yeah whatever face reveal face reveal whenever I um it's the original face reveal whenever I think of the veil I think of

the office where Pam ripped hers and then Jim cut his tie. Oh yeah. But that's how the way she wore a veil is like the more modern. Yeah. It's like to pay tribute to tradition, but you don't have to cover your face with it. Yeah. Um, In some cultures, it is tradition for family members or friends to stand guard outside the newlyweds bedroom on their wedding night to ensure that the couple consummates the marriage.

listening listening yeah that's so weird like people's moms in some weddings the newlyweds will spend their first night as a married couple in a special honeymoon suite which i you know it's what you call usually yeah that's usually still what it's called in a time when marriage by capture aka kidnapping was common the groom would hide his bride away for several months until her family gave up the search or she fell pregnant according to the new york post oh my god

Newlyweds would traditionally enjoy mead, a type of drink made from honey, during their first moon, aka month, together. according to Country Living. While this tradition is meant to be romantic and intimate, some people find it creepy or voyeuristic as they suggest that others are interested in the couple's sexual activity. Yeah, I don't... I...

Definitely some weird, creepy traditions. And I think it's they've all developed throughout history because it's a time of like celebration and people are like, you know, is this annoying? Am I just like the abnormal one? I have no interest in any other couples. Actual activity. No, I don't think people do that nowadays. I bet you some are interesting. Yes, I'm sure that it happens. I'm sure like in some they're like, also marriage by capture is a very new term to me.

I believe it, but also reminds me of the office where you're just like, Oh, how'd you guys get married? It was like, Oh, is it married? I married her marriage by capture. I got her. I got her. They kept her away for months. They gave up looking for her. They tried. They looked. They had the cops come. I don't know. I don't know where she is. And your wife's just like, that's so sweet, honey. That's so sweet. He took such good care of me.

It was locked away in the basement, but it was beautiful. He decorated it really nice. He fed me well.

Real-Life Creepy Wedding Stories

Would you like to hear some creepy weddings that have taken place? Sure. Although I'm already creeped out by why some of the things have been done. Well, in 2014, serial killer Charles Manson was granted a marriage license to marry a 26-year-old woman who had been visiting. him in prison while the wedding never actually took place the idea of a notorious murder getting married was not seen kindly by others uh in 2018 a couple in chile got married in a cemetery

With the bride wearing a white dress and black veil, while the couple said they chose the location because it was near their home and had sentimental value, which, okay. What? Some people found the choice of a ceremony to be disturbing. Yeah. People. That'd be weird. What, going on a ceremony? I would love it. I'd be like, this is so different. You'd be like, what is this? I'd be like, I love it. It's different.

In 2019, a couple in Florida got married in a reportedly haunted house. The wedding included spooky decorations, a tarot card reader, and a seance. That would be kind of cool to have a wedding in a haunted, like a notorious haunted place. Because then you could have stories and nobody would know if they were true or not. You'd be like, they were drunk. They don't know what they're talking about. Okay.

In 2015, a couple in Thailand got married in a ceremony that featured a corpse bride made of wax. Oh, God. The bride wore a traditional white dress, but her face and hands are made of wax to resemble, of course, corpse. Why? Yeah. There's a lot. This is just a few of the very unique things that I learned about weddings. In 1283, Alexander, Prince of Wales, married a woman named Margaret de la Haye. in a ceremony known as the Black Wedding.

The wedding was held in a castle. Not the red wedding? No. That had previously been the site of a massacre. And it was said that during the ceremony, a ghostly apparition appeared and cursed the couple. Alexander died shortly after the wedding and some people believe that the curse was to blame.

I probably would too. If I saw a ghost that said that we were cursed, I'd be like, well, we're probably not living long now. Something's going to happen to us. In the 19th century, a man in Brazil reportedly held. Wait, I take back what I said. I don't want to get married in a haunted place. Okay, good. You know, in case we ever get married again. Yeah. Renew our vows. Renew our vows. Oh, we can do it all over again. Good. We'll go on a month long honeymoon. Yeah, there you go.

In the 19th century, a man in Brazil reportedly held a wedding ceremony for himself and his beloved horse. The man claimed that the horse was his soulmate and that he wanted to show his commitment to her. I think that's something that happens where people marry animals. I don't think it's legal. Maybe in Brazil it is.

in 2012 a couple in mexico held a wedding ceremony that included a mock human sacrifice the groom dressed up as a mayan priest and pretended to sacrifice the bride before a group of guests while the couple claimed that the ceremony was a tribute to their heritage many people thought it to be

offensive and disturbing it's so romantic why did you do that on our wedding pretend to sacrifice you to the gods in front of our could you imagine in front of our friends all right everyone we're gonna do something a little different now everyone Come on in. People come in with robes and torches. That would be an amazing- We're going to do a sacrifice. I'm going to sacrifice Lauren now. Don't worry. It's pretend. I'm just like picturing if I went to a wedding and somebody did that.

I don't even know. Not very nonchalantly. Yeah. Just like, like no big deal with this happens. Yeah. It's like right after you say, I do kiss. Like, all right. Okay, lay down. You go like this and people come in in robes with torches. And you're just sitting there in your nice dress, looking around.

I would have thought I was in Game of Thrones. I probably would have PTSD from watching Game of Thrones. If that happened, I would get up and run out of the building. I'd be like, something not good is going to happen. There was some of the stuff I didn't include was like, there was a couple who had a game of throne style wedding, which I thought was like, cool. Yeah. I didn't think that was great. That was pretty cool.

Final Thoughts on Commitment & Identity

That would freak me out, though. I would be like... You hear the music? Also in the music that when everyone got killed starts playing. Kind of like my closing arguments here. One of the things... The way I looked at it was that like I got tired of like not tired of like when I was I didn't want to keep calling Lauren my girlfriend because you felt more to me than that. That's why for me.

Like I wanted to get married to call you my wife or to be engaged fiance. Yeah, it is weird that like, I guess it's just the way that you. But if somebody calls somebody a boyfriend or girlfriend, I definitely don't take it as serious as of a relationship than if they say husband and wife. And there's really like not the only difference that stands between the two labels is like some sort of ceremony and or paperwork.

Yeah, but in the end. But it's also you choosing to take that next step, which makes me see and be like, oh, you want to be in this for like the long haul. Yeah. Whereas, like, if you don't decide to do that and like everybody's different and a lot of people look like, oh, I don't want to spend you want to spend your life with one one person. And like, I mean, I get if you haven't found that person. Yeah. But for me, at least it was or just some people just don't want that.

Yeah. But then don't be mad if people don't see your relationship as serious. I just personally. But you also need to be in a relationship with somebody who also doesn't want that. If you're in a relationship with somebody who wants to get married and you don't, it is not going to work.

I just personally find it odd when you're with someone for a long time and you aren't married or don't want to get married. It's something to me that I would want to be like, oh, this is my... partners my wife my husband but that's just how i feel about it it's my closing thoughts that's like i i i'm very big on the fat and it's funny because people come back it's usually men come at me on this point but i said like

Especially if you have a child. If you're, if you, I don't know. It's a bumpy road. Because I was like, I don't, I want to.

advocate for people to get married because they had a child but i'd say like if you were in a long-term relationship with somebody you were living with them you had a child with them and you're intending to like yeah be together for to raise these children or just because you still love each other like why not just get married what like yeah but i said my problem is like i there's people that like and it's funny because i've been finding a lot of instagram

post about this where the mom has a different last name than the whole rest of her family. Like then the husband, like the husband and the children all have the same last name and you know, and I am a huge advocate. If I had a child. If you birthed a child. If I birthed and carried that child.

and you don't want to marry me after i birthed and carried your child and i want to get married yeah then until and like i don't want to force it i wouldn't force somebody to get married if i was having their child yeah but i would say okay that's fine The child is going to have my last name because legally.

I am like the main caretaker of this child. I have the most legal rights to this child being the mother, not saying that's fair or not, but I do. If you decide to leave me, I'm most likely getting custody of our child. I'm not having my child have a different last name. than me if you're not gonna like be in it for like commit to being in long haul yeah it feels like even when you changed your last name when we got married yeah i still i hate it i was so mad about all of it um i

it wasn't like something I was pushing. It was more so, it was more so for like simplicity. Yeah. I think if we decided we were never going to have children, I might've thought about it longer and been like, yeah, what's the point? Like, it is odd though. It is odd that it is. That's like.

But now that we have children, I would like to be called like one family unit. Like we're a unit. But that's why I kind of like when they hyphenate a name or have both last names. I don't mind that. I think that's kind of cool. Yeah.

but again that's just an old historic thing yeah that like people because it's the same thing it's like men were the ones that owned land and were in charge yeah so like you had to fall you were owned by them in a way yeah back in the day so you and your children because they were in charge of you who had to fall under their umbrella. Whereas like nowadays, that's not how it goes. And it's definitely changing. I feel like, um, cause someone I know.

a football, former football player. He changed his last name to hers. So they, they hyphenated it. Oh, which I thought was very cool. Well, he's a very unique character, but I think that's, it's cool. I like seeing. when things break tradition that it's not like it's not really affecting anyone it's just yeah i don't need it it's just symbolism if something began like we

Talking about a lot of the wedding traditions, it's like a lot of these traditions were based off of like weird things that like don't matter anymore. So what does it matter if you decide you're like, hey. This doesn't apply anymore. Why am I going to do it just because everybody... That's the way it was and that's what we're going to do.

Hope you enjoyed our opinions on weddings and marriage. We are opinionated on this topic. We are opinionated for some reason, even though we're married and done with it. It's because we have to go to them. We have to go. We get to go. Whenever you say that. I know. I have to retrain my brain. We are privileged to go. Yes. I get to go. And remember. Everything is creepy or else we're just going to keep talking about things for another hour.

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