The Ocean Is Creepy

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Hey, Bobby. You know what's really creepy? What? The ocean. Yep. A deep, dark ocean. This is one of the things that has been on my list to talk about because... It's one of the things I'm the most terrified of. I want to start off with some stats. Oh, okay. Set the stage. So we're changing roles today? Yes. I'm usually the one with the stats and the facts. Don't look at my laptop. Okay, I'm not.

How much of our world is covered by the ocean, by the sea? Percentage. 75%. Two thirds. So not 75%. I'm so bad with fractions. Two thirds. I think that's 66 point. Six, six, seven. Yeah, that would make sense. Okay. Of that. Yeah. How much of the ocean has been explored or topic or image by ocean? Is it a fraction or a percentage? It is a percentage. Of the total ocean percentage, how much of it? 20? Try again. 30? 5%. 5?

Of the ocean. A part of me was like 10? To oceanconservancy.org. So 95% of the ocean has not been explored. That's insane. What do you think's down there? Or 5% of... So two thirds, so like 66% of the world and then 10% or no, 90, no, 95%. Let's just say 60%. A majority of the. What do you mean say 60? Oh, 60% of the world. The world has not been explored or imaged by oceanographers. Yeah. I believe it. That's why I'm scared of the ocean. And that's where the aliens are.

I feel like it's as vast and unknown as space. In a way, I mean, not as big as space, but in a way. As unknown as space. It is very much unknown. Yeah, how do we know? There could be... underwater civilization somewhere i think i i i'm get on on the conspiracy that there's aliens or something or things atlantis I think I've watched a couple things. I think Atlantis was a city that got flooded by rising tides and whatnot. Yeah, but the theory is that it still exists.

They had that they had technology. So yeah. And yeah, maybe. And now they just are under the ocean hiding again, going along with all the, a lot of our themes. I just think we don't know, but not that we know we, I just want to know with all. I mean, I guess a lot of people won't think it's important. But as I say, with all the money that we have. Yeah. Why is not more research? What if there was like a cure for cancer down there? You don't know. Don't know. I know. Well, I think.

Like the scientific reason is just the pressure is too immense. No, but I mean like you could. Yeah, but if you had enough money, I feel like you could get like drones and stuff. Well, they do. I mean, James Cameron did. That's right. He's got a lot of money.

James Cameron. If I had James Cameron money. You would explore the ocean? I wouldn't personally explore the ocean, but I would pay somebody else. How cool would it be to like sitting in your home and like you're controlling drones that are exploring unknown. Or I would get a robot that could.

That could. No, I would still not want to do it. I don't think you understand how scared I am. I get it. Like there was a game. Oh, yeah. What's it called? Subnautica. Subnautica. Yeah. I refused to play that game. I couldn't even watch people play that game because we played.

raft yeah i also i also could not like when you'd be like i would go to the coral reefs and stay you'd be by an island and you'd go like around it and then also you'd look out in the ocean and you see like deep dark water i hated it yeah and bobby would just be like we straight down i'm dying i'm getting attacked by a shark

I miss Raph. It definitely freaks me out, but it's more so it's something that doesn't paralyze me. It's like an excitement freak out. I see it. No, I can't. I could go do it. Yeah. I like it. I can't simulate it. I can't do it. I think it's exciting for me. Like the unknown deep ocean. It gives me too much anxiety. Like if I knew I was going to be safe.

How do you know you're going to be safe, though? Nobody can promise you that. Some giant, but just think about it. I get swallowed by this giant animal, and I'm just inside of it in my little submarine. Yeah, just think about it. I mean, there's definitely been pictures that people have made. And that show like the deep, vast ocean and like a little boat on top. And then there's just like, like enormous, like an unfathomably large creature just coming up out of nowhere.

and and just it makes sense that there could be like yeah there's the space for it why wouldn't they i mean there's whales whales already exist and even whales terrify me even though they're not like yeah when i see people like videos people kayaking and they have a huge whale come up next to them yeah

just accidentally not like they want to get you their tails smack you yeah or they just accidentally like or they breach or they breach the water and they like come back down you're just there it's like ah yeah no thanks i realized how bad mine was when i

We rented jet skis once and then I went out to like the ocean ocean. You weren't with me. It was with my uncle. And I was like. We were at the beach and you could take them from the beach out into the ocean. And at one point I got so far out and just like sat there for a second. I was like, oh, so nice. And then all of a sudden the thought just creeped in of like.

I'm in extremely deep water right now, and I have no idea what's under me. And that freaks me out, and I had to go back to the show. When we were on our honeymoon, and I went and did stand-up paddleboarding for the first time ever, and I'm like, I'll be fine.

And it was just like in the. I'll be fine. It was like in like the little cove where like our resort was. Famous last words. And I was going along fine. And I had seen like fish and corn and like things. And then I just started freaking myself out of like. What was I doing? Was I just laying on the beach? You were just chilling. And I just started freaking myself out and I fell in and like panicked and got back on and went back. It's funny because I love the beach.

But I do not live in the ocean. And I like being out on boats. I think that's why I've always wanted to live on a lake. Because like if I'm on a boat on a lake, I feel... Actually, no, I take that back because there's definitely been times where I've been in lake water and I'm like, I don't know what's under me.

Freshwater animals and stuff are very creepy as well. So that's one of the things I wanted to bring up is the scariest animals to me are all water-based animals. Why is that? I thought bears were like your biggest fear. Yeah, but they're adorable.

like there's they're scary but like when you look at them you're like oh they're adorable but like the freakiest yes creepiest looking animals slimy like whether they're they hurt you or not they're creepy and gross and i don't want to be near them they're all water-based like Because you could go from like lakes and stuff. There's alligators and crocodile. Well, crocodiles are.

more land-based but there's alligators yep um piranhas i'm pretty sure are in rivers and lakes as well which is kind of funny because i feel like as a child i thought i was gonna i thought i was gonna encounter more piranhas and sea snakes Yeah, eels. Like on the Delaware. There's a frigging electric eels that exist. I don't know. Is that real? It is real. It's not electricity in the sense that you think it is, but they can like shock you. Gotcha. But it's not.

Kind of like a jellyfish. It can't like power or anything. Yeah, it's like a jellyfish type thing. Yeah, because when I go in the Delaware River, there's like sea snakes. I've seen them. Yeah, sea snakes. They're slithering along on the river and you're like, ah, shit.

Did you as a kid think you would encounter more piranhas in your life? Because I feel like I always had this fear there was going to be piranhas in the water. Yeah, never is. Because they don't exist here. And quicksand. Yeah, quicksand and piranhas. Yeah.

Um, and very, what other scary animals are, yeah, jellyfish you mentioned. What the hell are those? There's some freaky things. Oh, what's the big one? Manowar? Who named that and why does that exist? That's horrifying. I hate jellyfish. Giant squids. Giant squids exist. You're like, oh, is that real? Yes, it's real. I read plenty of stories of giant squids fishermen and.

divers getting attacked by them and just like grabbing onto them and like, all right, you're coming with me. You're coming, you're mine now. Either like off a boat or like as they're scuba diving, mostly they're scuba diving. I think that's what's scary too, at least on land. Like you have somewhat of a chance, but I feel like if you're in the ocean or the water and something gets you, like you're done. There's no, you're not a good, like humans can't swim better. They can't breathe underwater.

It gets dark, and then you can't see, and you're done. At least if you're on land, you have a little bit of a shot. Yeah, what other scary animals? Oh, sharks, obviously. Did we mention the biggest, scariest one? Sharks are horrifying. Shark week. What a thing. Oh, my God. Yeah. I've I remember here reading or seeing something about how like Jaws ruined the ocean for so many people. Yeah. Well, because they said like statistically sharks don't.

really go after people yeah it's very low um so then jaws happens jars jaws and shark week makes it seem like it happens all the time yeah he's got to be worried about it yeah it's i mean i've done plenty of ocean swimming and like boogie boarding in my life and thankfully never remember i feel like i i think we saw like a dolphin one time or something remember something like that freaked me out

A dolphin. Oh, yeah. Thankfully, never had experience with it. It's funny. I love dolphins, but I'm also hearing terrible things about them as well now. You know, I mean, they got it. Did you like, did you know? I mean, I don't know all this stuff because I don't want to ruin dolphins for myself. But I had learned from TikTok that dolphins enjoy kidnapping baby animals of other sea creatures and then just. beating them to death for fun. It's like what they do for fun.

What? They take like a baby seal or a baby whale or whatever, baby whatever, and they'll like kidnap it and then like beat it to death. And that's like fun for that. Are dolphins, do they eat meat? No, that's why they just beat it to them. What are they? I guess they're like plankton and small fish. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe they do it. Maybe it's like a tactic to like, hey, get out of here. Well, think about it. Dolphins are.

like kind of close in brain capacity to like humans or or they're probably I believe they're like they're like pack hunters so they're probably wolves yeah but they also they also like are one of the only animals that like have sex for pleasure they also I believe. How do they know that? That's something to me that's like. I think they measure the endorphins like from the.

So, which means there's some scientists that have sat around and watched this and then like... That to me doesn't... I mean, I have to look into that, but... My initial reaction to that is, A, how? Because what if they're just trying to keep reproducing and they're just... There's also LGBT dolphins. Excuse me? Like dolphins that enjoy being with the same sex. Okay.

But so do monkeys. So I guess they're not the only ones. Gotcha. But I'm saying like people, like animals with more advanced brains. Gotcha. tend to do some things like humans do because we have also- Well, they're probably, like I said, they're probably doing- But that's what I mean. The kidnapping is intimidation. So you're telling me-

They're intimidating the parents. Get out of here. I think the point of it is that just like there's good and bad people, there's good and bad dolphins. Yeah, there's good and bad most things, for sure. No, I wouldn't say... When you look at an animal, I wouldn't say an animal is good or bad. Like if a dog attacks somebody. There's good and bad dogs. No. There's good or bad owners. If a dog does attack somebody, there's usually a reason why the dog did it. Either.

an owner trained them to be like that or they felt cornered. Like they didn't do it because they're like, I'm going to be a dick. I hate people. I don't think there's just like senseless acts of animal violence, but in dolphins cases, there are, but it could just be an intimidation. That's not what they say. Okay. Well, they say they do it for fun.

Again, I guess you don't know how they know that. How are they? They talk to them. They like high five after. They slap their tails together. They're laughing and stuff. I'm trying to remember. Oh, yeah. Then there's the whole like conspiracy that they like can fall in love with a human.

What? That dolphins can fall in love with a human and want to, like, procreate with humans. Did you not know this? Where did you hear this? TikTok. Get off. It's going to be bad soon. You haven't heard the whole, like, the R word? i don't want to say it because i'm gonna get what do you mean about dolphins doing the r word action i can't say it like with humans that they will like pull humans down and try to oh yes gotcha

You haven't heard that whole thing? It was in New York City. Do you remember that? There was stickers that said dolphins are people. And it was like a legit... And then they said, look it up. That was in New York City at one point. And I remember looking it up and I was like, oh, crap. There's some evidence. I think dolphins just know that they're threatened and they're just trying to intimidate. Anyway, sorry, mom, who's my mom's favorite animal. What the heck?

My mom's favorite animal is the dolphin. And she's probably listening. Oh my God. Growing up. I loved dolphins. I still love my favorite football team is the Miami dolphins. And I wanted to be a marine biologist when I was young. before i knew any of the actual like work i think every schooling a lot of kids wanted to be it was a big thing in the late 90s to be or like the 90s i would like that job even still i'm gonna get that job

I'm going to get that. I'm going to go get that. Um, yeah, I, uh, well, actually, I don't know why I would want that job. I just went on a whole rant about how the ocean terrifies me and all the animals. Think about the last time you had to cancel a subscription. There was probably some waiting on hold, some guessing at your password, some mind-numbing small talk. And maybe, after all of that, you still weren't able to cancel it.

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You know what the only water animal is that I like 100% love? Duck? No. Oh, I like those two. No, but they do the R word too. The R word? I don't think they're not complete. They're not land and sea. They also don't know what they're doing. It's an instinctual thing. It's fine. Ducks have an okay out.

They're floaters. They don't go. No seals. They don't do anything bad. They do bad stuff. No, they don't. They just get eaten and attacked by other animals and beaten by dolphins. They hurt each other. I do think they hurt you. I do think they like kill their offspring and stuff. Yeah. Seals are cute. They're like dog mermaids. I know. I did it already. Whatever. Okay. Seals are cute.

People can let me know if seals are actually evil, but I like to believe that they are just like puppies with mermaid fins. I don't know what my favorite sea animal is. Sea animal. I guess turtles. Oh, a turtle. Melody's favorite current animal. I want the docile ones. Yeah. Even turtles, though, are creepy. Well, all animals. Oh, yes. Creepy. But I was going to say, all animals have to have a hyper-ness when it comes to self-defense because they're just...

Yes, but dolphins aren't. All right. Okay. I'm past the dolphins. I thought you were going to start. I thought you were about to attack turtles. And I was going to say, leave the animals alone. No, because they don't have as developed brains, but dolphins should know better. They should know better. What do you want them to do? Cure cancer? Be nice. Be nice. They have big brains. They know that there's other emotions and things to do besides being nice.

That's their problem. I think they get bored and they're like, what are we going to do? Let's go. We have the whole ocean. They're like the humans of the ocean. Like they just, they own that. Not the mermaids. Not the mermaids. I'm so curious. Like mermaids can't reproduce. What? What?

I should have looked up a mermaid story. I know there's plenty of them. I know the backstory behind mermaids. It was like sailors. So sailors would get so delirious being out at sea for so long and not seeing women or anything that they would start to hallucinate. Oh, and because of the lack of vengeance.

like they wouldn't eat vegetables that's where scurvy came from when you eat too much meat products yes because they would eat a lot of fish obviously and like things like that but they wouldn't have fruits or vegetables or whatever that's what causes scurvy for anybody interested um And so they would start they were malnourished, basically, and they would start hallucinate and people believe they were seeing seals. But instead, they thought some of them were women. Yeah.

That could be true. Um, from the hallucinations. Yeah. But then there was also the story of like, uh, some of them are considered like sirens is the alternate, which it's like, they. bedazzle you i'm trying to think of the word glamour you whatever that's true blood terminology they like they basically possess you to like bring your boat toward them in the rocks and then they disappear and then your boat gets shipwrecked yeah you die yeah

That's like the evil version. That's why sailors would be like, no, I swear, man. I saw it. It was a beautiful woman with a fishtail. and all the time it was probably just like a walrus or a seal there's a lot of like mythological creatures and whatnot that has to do with the ocean um yeah think about it like there's people that just it was all just told down

Like if a guy saw a giant squid, you're telling me that he wouldn't have been like, that's the Kraken. It's the Kraken. The Kraken. Even the Kraken's like a giant octopus. I'm curious because what I, I've been sitting here thinking like, I think there are like.

monsters giant things of the sea but what they probably have learned is to stay away like they know when like where the boats are constantly going it could also be like maybe they can't um a lot of the creatures that are that low can't be near light because it like

irritates their skin because their skin that's why a lot of the creatures that are like real low they have translucent skin because of the darkness yeah um so one of my yeah theories is that a lot of them can't get that high up because it'll it like hurts them or bothers them or whatever so they stay down yeah i'll never forget i think it was in star wars episode one when they were like with jar jar and they had to like go in like the underwater thing and there was like

a big thing chasing him then an even more enormous thing like ate that one and just kept like there's always the bigger fish thing yeah that was cool

I feel like they get every now and then there's like a like bones that wash up and they're like, what in the world is this? This is huge. And they start putting it together. I'm sure. So just I even think that there's lots of animals that even. that either existed or like no longer exists like dinosaurs that the bones have just like settled to the bottom of the like the really deep ocean and we'll just never we'll never find that well

Never say never, but like we'll most likely never get on it, James. Come on, James Cameron. But yeah, so they could like there could be huge creatures that exist because a lot of people say like when their bones just wash up on shore eventually or their bodies. And it's like not necessarily they can either get eaten or sink so low that nobody would ever find them and they could still be existing. I don't know. What other scary animals did I have? Stingrays? Let's just say most.

like there's even like the micro like the plankton like they can do creepy stuff like all the small shrimps and me but like there's just it's like a little bug oh yeah oh my god that was in a stand-up special when they called it a bug it was a It was like, you understand when you're eating crustaceans, those are bugs, sea bugs. And I was like, oh my God, you're right. He said, he was like, what's a bug? A creature with a hard exoskeleton.

And I was like, oh my God. Lobster and crab. And different, they basically are. And, uh. Bugs also have like the three parts of them. I forget in school what the heck they taught us. But like so do lobsters. They're a bug. It's a bug. You're eating bugs. It's funny how that became like a more up class food thing.

I know I'm pretty sure it used to be something that like poor people would eat. Yes. In the beginning. Cause people were like, ew. And then people in the beginning, then people started tasting it. Probably they were like, Oh, we need to keep this for ourselves. I love, let me just say, one of my favorite foods ever is snow crab legs dipped in butter. I could sit there for hours.

And just eat that and be completely happy. That's why Red Lobster had to stop the unloading. Yeah, I think that's hilarious because I remember they announced it. I was like, yes. And then they got rid of it within like a week. Me and my dad went and. I remember I had like seven plates. That was young. They should have known that was a bad idea. They're not very filling. But like me now or like some of my friends, we could go and easily do like 10 to 20 plus plates. Yeah, you.

well it's just not it's not a very fully that's what i said so you could have a bunch of it yeah and be fine yeah love it so good some of the best i've ever had was well in florida has really good crap but also in boston when we went their lobster rolls. Yeah, it was good. I'm going to get so hungry. Yeah, I like crab better than lobster. I like both. What's your creepiest or scariest experience with the ocean?

I haven't had many. I kind of stay away because I've been avoiding it. I've been avoiding it because I'm too scared. I I was telling you earlier that the only time that I remember being in like the open ocean where I was allowed.

to do whatever I wanted. Do whatever you want. Well, I meant like as a kid, we'd go to the beach, but then we only stayed where the waves hit the shore. Yeah, I didn't go to like in the ocean. Yeah. Except for jet skis, which I'm on a device. I feel like that's different. Or a boat. Or a boat. But like the only time I've been like in the ocean was on our honeymoon and it was technically like a coral reef. So it wasn't. Yes. But I do have a remember at one point, like looking out at.

Because you can see where the coral reef drops off. And then, yeah, you can see the drop off and then you can see the darkness. And I saw some people going over there and I was like, no, I'm not going anywhere near there. But I'm pretty sure at one point I looked out and I saw something swimming in the darkness over there.

And I was like, nope. And then I went back to the boat. Like, that was probably my scariest one. Don't know what it was. Don't know if it was a bear. Yeah, then barracudas are also not great. They killed Nemo's mom. Spoiler for finding me. I have two. Didn't you have a barracuda running? Yes. So the first one, or actually that was the second one. The first time was we went to the Dominican Republic.

When I was like 16-ish, I believe. Me and my family. And we went snorkeling. Me and my dad and my brother. I don't think my mom did. And we had to go do like a class in the pool. Pretty sure it was just one class. And we went out and we went scuba diving. That's all you need is one class. Pretty sure. And we went like 40 feet down. So we're going around. They would like give us bananas and all like the fish would come and eat. Why?

If something bad's coming towards you, throw the banana. They will go towards the banana. Sharks hate bananas. It's banana repellent. No, it was cool, because, like, you'd have the banana, you'd open it up, and, like, all these fish would come and swarm you. Wait, but you would be in the open ocean?

We were in a coral reef. We were in a cove. Or like, yeah. It was like 40 feet. So it was, we were, you know. Okay. But we could see like the cliff and the drop off. We were like relatively close. Not, we were.

Close enough that I could see it pretty good. And I remember like, you know, constantly looking out and it was, I don't remember. Yeah, that's why I couldn't enjoy snorkeling because all I was doing was snorkeling. The shore was to my right and the shore was to my left. I remember going and I looked out and I could see way out in the deep a shark.

And because they said there are sharks out there. They never they kept saying they never come in here. If you see a shark, don't worry. I would be. All right. Me and my mom. I must have gotten this fear from my mom because you know her. She won't go. If she even suspects that maybe an alligator was ever in this body of water, she would not go. I can't imagine. And I saw it. I saw the shark way out in the deep. Just kind of like.

swimming there me from my perspective it was like you know this big like a couple inches you know what kind of shark great white shark it may have been i don't oh my god i don't know but it was just a shark i could see it yeah clearly it was a shark and it was just Hanging out? Just hanging out, just looking like... It's probably like, come over here. I don't think I should go there. Yeah, so that was the first creepy experience. Yeah, they got the bananas. And then...

When I was 18-ish, when we graduated from high school, me and some of my friends went to the Bahamas after that, and we went on a booze cruise. Before we drank, we went and did snorkeling. Okay. And we went snorkeling. They don't serve alcohol until you after the snorkeling. Okay. Which is funny because at our honeymoon, we were definitely drinking before the snorkeling. I think. No, maybe it was after they gave us that like jungle juice. Yeah.

So me and my friends are going around snorkeling and all of a sudden like one of the tour guides comes over to me and my friend Ian and we're like swimming around checking stuff out and he's like waving. I was like, come here, come here, come here. And we're going, all right. So we go, we follow him.

And he's like he goes down underneath like he dives down. He goes under the boat and under the boat is like a barracuda. Just chilling under. What? Wait, I'm confused. You said the guy went down under the boat. Yeah, he brought he made us go like. Deep enough so we could go, like, see under the boat. Oh, okay. And then he pointed it out? Away from it. Not right next to it, but we were like, I don't know. Yeah. 40 yards? Okay. Something like that.

so he was trying to show you it or get away from it trying to show us it i said he was waving us over he's like come here i want to show you something okay so he brought us over there like we were away like in the coral reef or like close enough and he tried to show people so we went underneath we like dove down with him

I think about we might have surfaced. He's like, oh, there's a barracuda. I want to show it to you. We're like, all right, screw it. I want to show it to you. So we dove down, and there was a barracuda underneath our boat, right in the center, just stationary, just like... Waiting. All right, cool. Make sure that we're going to go back in the boat now. Did he not say that they attack humans? Remember? I just remember seeing a barracuda.

like the vague like yo guys check this out and then it's just yeah guys want to get attacked by a barracuda come here it's the full experience here don't worry we got first aid stuff You guys signed insurance waivers. Don't worry. So those are my experiences. Another, I guess, kind of creepy experience that is more or less just the power of the ocean is getting caught.

in the riptide oh my god you gotta tell the story of our north carolina trip oh to save my nephew it wasn't too bad but no i wasn't gonna tell that story i mean that was that was you know

Manageable, I mean it wasn't yeah, it wasn't like life or death where people were freaking out. I know some of the moms on the shore were definitely Yeah, I was just the thing is like and I've known this because my like going to the ocean when I was young and my grandpa would always tell me he told me to these like never turn your back on the ocean so like when you're in the ocean yeah don't face the shore how are you supposed to ride a wave

Yes. When you ride the wave, you turn around. But like, if you're in the water and you're not looking at the waves, you're going to get destroyed. And if you ever get caught a reptile, let it take you out. Because fighting it is going to exhaust you and you're going to drown. is basically it and i remember that and i've had that happen a few times where especially when i was boogie boarding and it was like uh crazier water or like more um higher tide um and i've never really had any issues but

Yeah, it's definitely a very scary feeling when all of a sudden you're like, huh, why am I like drifting very fast like was one way? Yeah. it's actually i know one of the scarier times too was when we were on our honeymoon and i got like destroyed by the waves one day and i just like it was one of those like panicked feelings where like you just kept getting hit over and over and over and you're trying to find your footing to like get up when the waves

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I'm so bad. My sister's going to be like, are you kidding me, Lauren? Anyway. Wait, no. Elaine is graduating. He's 15. He's 15? Yes. So he's 14. I hope. Either way. Teenager. And then two younger kids who are like seven or five. I don't even know. I don't know how old I am. I don't.

And I noticed we kept like drifting and I was trying to like get them. I mean, they were excited to be in the water. So it was hard to like be like, all right, guys, we got to go in because we're going to get caught. And eventually like. They started drifting out and they couldn't get back in. And I was like trying to I went and got the one and I was like trying to tell Connor McConaughey, go out there, get him and just like.

hang out with him like don't and like try i said don't try too hard but like try to get back in which we got in it was fine it was no big deal like you just you have to go with the flow you can't freak out panic and freak out yeah but they seemed fine they didn't even know what was going on they didn't have a clue

They probably didn't know. I mean, they're good swimmers. I always thought Riptide meant it was going to pull you under. Like when I was a kid, nobody explained to me. It can pull you under. The Riptide? Yeah. You can get caught. Like surfers will get caught if they get.

um if they get knocked off and like the waves they could tumble and then it can kind of like drag them on the floor of the ocean that's why it's dangerous if you're doing that like where there's coral you can get cut real bad or hurt yeah

why is the ocean so terrible it's nature it's not something we're supposed to just like it's one of those things it's like if the ocean is like one of the most beautiful things but it's like yeah very scary well it's the wild nature it's not so we haven't we can't control it we have no we can just go try to enjoy it you know surf it we can swim in it but you have to respect it not be stupid i was trying to think of

mythical animals that people said existed. I tried to. Megalodon, the Kraken. It's so funny because narwhals I thought were a fake animal, but they are not. They're real. Yeah. Well, because they're like unicorn seals. Yeah. unicorn well i've never seen one because they live in like antarctica right yeah very cold not many people see them on a daily basis ever um no i was going to talk about the word that i can't say

Want me to say? The phobia that I'm pretty sure I have. Submechanophobia? Submechanophobia. Submechanophobia. I mean, I definitely think I have a phobia of the ocean, but like, it's not. to the point where I'll never do anything on the ocean or be near the ocean like I can handle it but this is something I think I can't I don't think if somebody put me in this situation I don't think I'd be able to do it but it's like so some

Mechanophobia is a fear of submerged human made objects, either partially or entirely underwater. I wouldn't say partially. Unless I saw the bottom half. If I saw the bottom half, yes, it would freak me out. But the top half, I don't care.

yeah it definitely makes me uncomfortable so yeah so for example a shipwreck yeah the titanic um airplanes that are underwater that have crashed statues that are put underwater Anything, anything like manmade, like any type of metal, even like if there was a metal beam under the water.

that had been there for a long time it does give a very uncomfortable like it just gives me chills and i don't know why it's curious yeah it's like because maybe because you see it i think it's because it's like it's not supposed to be there There's that's like there was a horror movie that I watched a synopsis of and it's about a town. So, OK, so remember we were so at one point we were looking into Candlewood Lake. That's in Connecticut. Yeah. To live on.

And when I was looking into it, I learned that the lake basically they moved. It's a manmade lake. So they moved like they paid off people to move out of that area so that they could make it into a lake because it was like a valley. So they said there's still like.

houses and tractors and stuff under the lake that freaks me out so much i did not know that existed that is such a weird thing because people just up and left and why would you spend the time or money taking that down you're just gonna flood it with water i think it's because it's like a very

unnatural thing. It's not supposed to be there. And it's something you don't see a lot. So when you do see it, you're like, whoa, this is new. It feels like a weird dimension. Yeah. I don't know how to feel about this because you're also seeing an object in a different light where you're seeing a boat.

On the water, moving around looks fine. But when it's underwater and it's... like essentially dead in a way yeah it's a very like creepy eerie feel the titanic is a different story because it's like that also has a bad history to it so when you see it you're like oh my god so many people died in this so but even things like if it was like hey this plane crashed in the ocean but the guy got

out nobody died even if i saw that i'd still be like something went wrong and this is right why is this under the ocean um yeah i think it's just the bad but yeah there was a horror movie where they basically had to go into the ocean to this town that in that like which i didn't know was actually a thing but this town got flooded out to create a lake yeah and the people had to go down because they thought there was treasure in the houses and then like they found out there was actually like

ghosts underwater ghost people um but that movie yeah i even watching the synopsis of that i couldn't i like stopped because i was like i can't i don't know i hate i think also one of my worst nightmares is like looking out into like Just open water and seeing something come at you from like the darkness. Yeah. Like a nightmare like a says this happened to you. No, I just mean like if it ever did.

that would be like my absolute worst nightmare you know one of my biggest like irrational like biggest fears is is like a tsunami like when i see surfers surfing like enormous hundred yeah that freaks me out first off i'm like how are these existing in the first place? How are there? I want to go. I want to see that in person.

It's funny, we live, like, not too far from the ocean, but I was gonna say, I don't, I would never live in a place where, like, a tsunami could or has ever happened. Yeah, I mean, literally, I guess theoretically it could happen anywhere. It could, theoretically. I mean, more so it happens. for some reason like in japan air just seeing just seeing that like huge body of water just moving towards you what was that oh deep impact yeah it is that movie freaky

sight to behold. Excuse me. I've always had... Stop drinking carbonated drinks while I'm doing the podcast. I've always had... like almost like a reoccurring nightmare, I guess, but mostly just like this fear of that happening. Yeah, I think as a kid, I had more of a fear of that. This is a dark place to go, but like, would you die instantly? I feel like not. I feel like you would. It depends. You could get like knocked into something. Yeah, that's fair.

Because in my brain, I'm like, I'll just try to swim up to the surface of it. I'll go blow up my inflatable kayak and I'll ride it out. Just always keep an inflatable life vest on you so you just pull it. Yeah, I. Um, Oh, I realized I like sidestepped from the human made objects underwater, but cause a lot of people would be like, is, does that really affect you in real life? It doesn't.

But I will say. But it's a phobia. It's an uncomfortable feeling that you have. Yeah, and it's something that I don't think I would be able to get over. Like, if somebody invited me to go do that, my answer would be no. Whereas you said you might try it. Oh, I would do it. Like, I think I know what brought about us talking about this. My brother. went to Australia and he posted pictures of him and Greg scuba diving.

and you're a shipwreck or your shipwreck or whatever it was and you were like that is terrifying we talked about a little bit what's crazy is my one of my co-workers back when I worked uh at the Knicks one of them came in and was like um

That they went on their honeymoon and I was like, oh, let me show, see pictures. And they showed a picture of them doing a scuba diving thing. And they gave them a picture of like an aerial view. Yeah. Like with a drone of what they were swimming in. And it was a plane wreck. Oh, like.

Like it was obviously like not a commercial plane wreck. It was like a single propeller plane, but it was under the water, but it was like so shallow that like you could see it. You saw the boat, you saw the plane, and then you saw like the people swimming. And I was like.

I saw that image. I was like, I will never forget that image. That freaks me out. And they were like, look how cool we like swim in this plane. I was like, that is not cool to me. I'm glad you enjoy. Well, I know they do intentionally like. sink ships or other objects they use as coral reefs for fish. Or not coral reefs, but like they use it as like- Yeah, so like statue, they've done, where's that area? There's that one area where there's the statues of humans.

Oh, I forget where it is. It's like one of the wonders of the world or whatever. There's like statues of humans that you can like go see, but it's part of a coral reef like ecosystem now. Yeah, there's that. I'm trying to remember the other thing I was thinking of that they put in the water. Oh, there's I've seen like probably not in the US, but somewhere in the world. There's also like a scuba diving place you can go to. And it's just this huge freaking tank. And all along the walls is like.

fake buildings that are under that. Oh, you mean like where they practice? Yes. Yeah. That freaks me out. I was like, I wouldn't be able to, even though I know that's like all manmade, it still freaks me out. I don't like it. It's a weird, I don't know. I think it's just a very uncomfortable feeling because I'm like imagining it makes me uncomfortable.

But I think I would do it. And I think I would get comfortable with it. I don't think so. I think I would never be able to enjoy myself. I don't even think I would get to that point. So if anybody ever invites me to do anything like this, I just know immediately.

They don't watch our podcast. They don't know me. You don't know me or you're trying to mess with me intentionally. I mean, it's funny because, I mean, we're talking about the ocean. As if we like have to live, we do stuff in it all the time. No, not so much. We both really want to live in a lake, which is, I mean, the ocean. Which is funny because my, so my mom.

was in florida and she lives she loves going to like the beach and the ocean she always loved the ocean but lakes freak her out and she'll never go in it and i i kind of get it yeah Because a lake is more like stagnant still water, and it's also usually murky, whereas a lot of the time some ocean you can see. Oceans are clear, yeah. And the lake is like, you don't know what's under there. Like when we used to go in Candlewood Lake. Now, I don't know.

I'm going to be so freaked out to ever go back in that lake. But when I was a kid, I go and candle with like, I always had this reoccurring fear that something was going to grab my ankle from the lake. Touching things in water. Don't ever. If you want to end your friendship with me. or if you if you ever want to get divorced you did if i'm enjoying myself swimming somewhere and somebody besides a pool you can do it in a pool you can do it in a pool that's fine but any sort of man-made water like

A river, a really high river for some reason, or a lake or an ocean. If somebody comes and grabs my feet or ankles, it's a joke. Relationship is over. It's odd because I think I've gotten more comfortable with it over time. It was definitely something that used to freak me out when I was younger. No, I would have a heart attack. In like the Delaware or a lake and just feeling seaweed. Now.

i go in and i literally like there's parts of the river when they're when it's low i'll literally walk into like the middle river and just like still enchant there stand there and um don't freak me out because it's usually not as high sometimes some of it is

it's a weird i think and it's also moving water so i feel like things don't stay but that's the thing also with ocean it's like it's constantly moving like usually in the parts that you go in yeah but a lake is not it's just i mean usually there's like that's why i always worry streams and rivers but i always wonder if like

Oh, that was my other fear was that I was going to find a dead body under the water in a lake. Freaky. Because a lake would be a perfect place because the ocean, it might wash up on shore. A river, it's going to wash up somewhere, but a lake, it could just stay. Sorry for anybody who lives. I mean, we want to, I still want to live on a lake because there's so many water-based activities that I enjoy. The biggest thing isn't, I don't, I don't have this desire to go swimming in a lake.

But I have a desire to like boat on a lake or do tubing on a lake. Or if I happen to fall in the lake and then get right back out, that's fine. But I don't ever have the desire to like just be swimming in a lake. That's why I still need a pool. I still need a pool for me to swim in. And then I need a lake for like activities.

That's our dream. Maybe someday. Also, the ocean brings like terrible weather. Remember the perfect storm? That movie freaked me out so much. That's the big waves. But just like storms in general, you get trapped out.

I'll never forget. Oh yeah. There's another scary ocean story. My family, when I was a kid, we all went out. There was like a storm coming, but the guy that was taking us out on this boat, I forget what we were doing. I think we were just going out on the boat for a little bit for a tour or something.

into the ocean and the guy's like yeah don't worry like the storm it's not gonna come in for a while so like okay so we went out and it's like coming to be almost nighttime it was like the last we were the last group to go out we're out there all of a sudden you can literally see the storm rolling in very quickly that's the thing with the ocean too I feel like storms can move a lot quicker because of that that's why hurricanes move in and all of a sudden he's just like oh

I think he realized he like overshot it or whatever. We were literally speeding and the storm is obviously beating us. And we had to, we literally like had to make sure that we were like in specific spots. So that we didn't like attract like because we could have got hit by lightning. Yeah, we're the only thing. We literally reached the shore right as like the downpour of rain started. We had to run right in.

Or my mom remembers that. She probably did because she was probably freaking out. Meanwhile, I'm a kid. I'm like, this is cool. Have you ever gone deep sea fishing? Yeah, that's fun. I do like deep sea fishing.

I have a couple. Although now I'd probably be thinking about the giant animals that could be under me. Yeah, I've had a couple interesting deep sea fishing. I've gone in like we did flounder fishing. That was fun because you get to like fluke. Yeah, you have like a weight.

For anybody who's never done it, you have a weight on the end of your fishing pole. And I really liked the process of just like you have to like nicely hit it in like arithmetic. I forget why. Well, you're bouncing because they feed on the bottom of the ocean. So they're just. Yeah, so you just like kind of bounce it on the bottom and then it like attracts them for some reason and then they. So one time I went with my.

grandpa when he was part of a fishing club in his community so it's all these old senior citizens and a couple of them brought like their grandkids and i was probably like one of the older ones there i don't know let's just say 16 i was in that range and it was rough Everyone, they all, everyone got sick. Except for like me and like a few younger kids. And we didn't do much fishing because everyone was just inside throwing up everywhere. It was disgusting.

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as we're like going back in to get out of like the disgustingness me and a couple like other kids went up to the front of the boat we're like holding on and just like bouncing like hitting the waves and stuff it was pretty cool so excited for us to have these family trips And then I went blue, like for fishing for bluefish one time with my friends in high school. And I don't, what are bluefish? Oh shit, you don't know what bluefish are? No. They almost look like tuna.

I was just going to say, do you mean tuna? No. Oh. Yeah. I've never seen a blue fish. It's exactly what it looks like. It's a blue fish. They can be pretty big too. Yeah. 17 pounds for an adult they're big fish and they're like and they they're good to eat yeah so we went blue fishing one time and i won't i don't want to get too graphic but like everyone caught them and like everyone was catching like

10 bluefish and to get them up they have to like get them with a hook and they obviously are bleeding and they're big so just imagine a boat of like I don't know. Let's say 30 people. This is just like blood everywhere. Yes. Oh God. It was a legit mask. I remember one time I sat down. I was literally, I was fatigued. I was fatigued from catching so many big fish and I'm looking around and I was just like.

That sounds like a horror movie to me. This is not, this is something. Yeah, I was going to say, when we went flounder fishing, there was like no blood involved. Because you can, because they have to gaff them. No, thanks. Tell me. I don't ever want to go blue. We did eat all the fish. We did. We got all our fish, like, filleted. Yeah, that's what we did with the flounder. It was actually one of the best meals I've ever had, but I didn't want to feel bad. Yeah, it's, you know.

When it comes to eating, I guess any animals, it's a very gruesome experience. But, you know, I do want to move on to the scary stories. But I just that just reminded me of that. There was one time my dad, did I tell you this? But my dad, grandpa and brother. I want to go fishing. And I was like, I want to go fishing because they were doing like a guy's trip or whatever. And I was like, I want to go fishing. They're like, OK, so let me come. And I was literally it was like a group.

like a bunch of people during a camping thing yeah but i was literally the only girl on this entire uh in the ocean or uh yeah because it was like yeah we were i think i don't think it was deep sea fishing i don't know maybe Um, but basically it was a line that had three different, uh, what's it called? Bates on it. Yep. So I was like the only girl. So everybody was like being super nice to me, whatever, like giving me special treatment. Cause I'm like the only girl there.

Um, and literally every, everybody else was having problems. Like my dad caught nothing. He caught a puffer fish twice, the same puffer fish. And he was getting so pissed off. Um, cause he, yeah, he unhooked it, put it back in the ocean. And then a little while later, the same.

came by and did it again. I was like, he just likes your thing. Nobody else was really catching anything. And I, every time I would cast my line, I would catch these three little fish. Like, I don't know what they were. They were like not big enough to eat. But three little and at the end of it, there was like a competition, like whoever caught the biggest fish got a prize. So like they kept taking my fish and putting them in this cooler. And I was like.

Is there an award for getting the most fish? They were like, we might need to make one because this is crazy. Because literally every time I would get one. So then all of a sudden this one guy catches this like giant fish. I'm like, oh man, this guy's going to win. So he put his fish in. But it's a cooler that holds all the fish.

like we get back to the boat and first of all like my mom my mom meeting us there and she's like oh this is so cute and they're like lauren called all these fishes like yeah they're so cute too they're those little we open the cool And it's like a bloodbath. Like the big fish, like eight. So first of all, eight all like.

maybe one or two of the other fish and then choked they believe choked on the last one because it died the big fish died with the small fish in its mouth and i was like it was like the most traumatic like picture like me being like i was like seven or eight So proud of my fish. The other guy that caught the big fish was like, oh, I'm sorry. As if like that fish was his responsibility. Sorry, Rufus was hungry. I think we have a picture of it somewhere. They had me like.

either take a picture neck i think i took a picture next to it i don't think i held it of this giant fish eating my tiny fish i have to find it you just see my face i'm like that's hilarious best day ever yay oh man My fish inadvertently killed this other fish who inadvertently killed all my fish. Could you imagine the thought process of that one giant fish, though? He's like, oh, my God, food everywhere. Just, like, gouged himself. Where am I? Jesus. Fish, man.

Fish are creepy. Fish are creepy. They are creepy things. They do. They're like one of the only animals that just like continuously eats the same type of animal. Cannibal. Always a bigger fish.

Yeah, I'm out of my talking points. You have your scary stories. So time to get into some scary stories. As if the whole podcast hasn't been just discussing. All right. So there's plenty of like creepy, scary ocean stories. There's no. shortage of them um i try to pick some that were creepy and like have kind of like themes of things we've talked about before okay or just different than the typical oh there was a shark there was a shark attack yeah like just different things um

All right. So this, I got these from, I mentioned them before the ocean conservancy.org. So it's a legit place. I also wanted to get, I also want to get stuff that was like a little more legit rather than just like all these people say stories. Yes. All right. So the first one, in 2003, scientists tagged a nine foot great white shark in Australia as part of a research. The device that was attached to the shark, they're monitoring it all of a sudden, it like suddenly plummets.

I think I've seen this before. 1,900 feet in a matter of seconds, and its body temperature skyrocketed by 20 degrees. Researchers thought maybe a massive sea creature swallowed it. and just kept dragging it deeper into the ocean and eating it yeah um so there's theories that there's like a monster shark that ate it um but most and some most scientists believe the culprit

was a sperm whale. Do sperm whales eat? Maybe it accidentally got it because I believe sperm whales eat like plankton. Yeah, that's what I thought. Scooped it up. Are sperm whales, I think those are the biggest animals, right? I believe so. They're the biggest type of whale. sperm whale it's probably the one i'm picturing yeah with like the yeah oh yeah that was like the moby dick moby dick it's the moby dick whale um damn wait do sperm whale human comparison size comparison

I just want to get the creepy vibes. I don't even see the human. There you go. Oh, my God. It's like as big as like. It's chin. It's like the, well, a full size male. I quickly, a full size male weighs around 90,000 pounds. Oh my God. And if you do that white one, that white picture. Yeah. Up to 62 feet in length. Oh, my God. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess that could... easily swallowed that is a monster yeah so there has to be monster so they they they know that they get up to 62 feet

But I'm sure that there are the is the rare exception where they two is the one that like they probably the biggest one they've seen or the average, I guess. Yeah. That's crazy. OK. I hate it. I hate knowing that that exists. This one's cool. Which is funny because they're like, I think they're like, they're not like an attacking type animal. All they do is eat plankton. Also, how does plankton sustain that thing?

um i just think because there's so much of it that they're able to just yeah it's pretty insane okay so that's that story uh this next one um they found there's a story on reddit and a man described One of the most unexplainable things he's ever seen. So in 2012, this guy was on a cruise to Bermuda and he was on the deck at night and suddenly.

A large cloud parted in the sky and a giant beam of bright blue light went straight from the cloud all the way to the horizon. No one that saw that thought it was a lightning bolt because for a few seconds. The entire sky was lit up in a bright blue array of color. They didn't think it was a shooting star. The bolt descended in a perfectly straight edge line. Even the captain, who had plenty of experience, had no idea.

what it was. Aliens. Yeah, I was just gonna say, did you bring the story up so you can talk about how aliens are in the ocean? Definitely aliens in the ocean. Why wouldn't they be? Why would they? Their ships are. Obviously more advanced than us. So they can probably withstand the pressure because they're in space. So I'm sure there's other pressures that they have to be ready. Withstand.

Yeah. And they probably wanted to explore it. We're like, oh, there's this whole other world in there. Well, it's like, there's also black holes in the ocean, which I learned. Yeah. What's that about? I couldn't, I didn't look further into it, but. I mean, think how deep the ocean is and then how like.

much deeper the earth is so there's definitely cracks and craters and things that thanks yes now i'm starting to realize after you said that about the cruise ship i'm now also realizing why i'm not the biggest fan of cruise ships Yeah, I went on a cruise and it was cool. But you definitely get that like, you know, if you freak yourself out enough that you are, you know, more or less stranded in the middle of the ocean. Or if a storm comes in. At the mercy of nature.

I went on a cruise and we were like a week. We were not following Hurricane Sandy. Yeah. But we were like essentially going the path it went. I'm not Sandy. We were in New York City for Sandy. What was the Katrina? Katrina. Yeah. Katrina. I say we were in Sandy. What are you talking about? Katrina. Yeah. We left as Katrina was like starting to, I guess, make.

or it's like go into the gulf yeah and we kind of followed it and it was crazy because we were away and we got back everything was like the gas like skyrocketed yeah it caused all this like terrible damage yeah all right that's that story Can't have to do an episode of weather is creepy. For sure. Oh, it is. This is, so in 1968. four separate submarines from all different countries. Oh my God, I forgot about submarines. How do people do that? I would never be able to not be in one of those.

So in 1968, four separate submarines, all from different countries, vanished without a trace from the US, France, Israel, and the Soviet Union. The disappearances are still yet to be explained. Theories vary from an accidental torpedo attack kept quiet by the government or and even a Navy court of inquiry announced that the cause of the loss cannot be definitively.

explained ascertained thank you um and none of the none of the remains of the subs that's weird have ever if it was a torpedo attack i feel like there would be something or like sunk had depending where they are oh that's true it could have sunk so Yeah. Creepy because. Why are submarines a thing? I mean, it could be as simple as they did attack each other and like. government's just kept it quiet or maybe there's aliens or monsters. You keep bringing aliens. I'm going the more logical like.

giant creatures that's more logical yeah taking down submarines yeah there's a sperm whale that exists that's way bigger than a submarine could have just decided to like want to lay down on the ocean floor and just like took it down with him. All right. Time to sleep. Time to sleep. What's this under my belly? You're like, how do they sleep? They just like. They just float. They just float. Pretty sure that's how they like.

that would be the most comfortable sleep probably just weightless yeah they don't know how good they have it okay this next thing was something lauren brought to my attention and i found a couple more things that go along with it and these are creepy unexplained sounds of the ocean. Lauren's a big fan of these. Hopefully you can all hear this well. This first one is called the upsweep. I'll read about it and then I'll play it first. So this sound was present.

when the Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory began recording its sound surveillance system in August of 1991. The level of sound is high enough to be recorded throughout many parts of the Pacific. Researchers think the sound is caused by underwater volcanic activity, and this sound is called... Oh my god, I forgot there's volcanoes underwater too. This sound is called upsweep.

It sounds like ghosts. I guess because it's like sweeping sound. It sounds like waves, but I guess it's under the water. So weird. I hate underwater noises. Giving me chills. I don't like it. That's that one. Some people might just be like, this is I feel like I. make a big deal out of these things and some people might be like that's not scary at all yeah i don't care to me it is to me it freaks me out okay this sound is called train

And this sound was recorded in March of 97 in the eastern Pacific near the equator. It's called a train because it sounds like a train wheel screeching or a train horn blowing in the distance. It's believed to be generated... by a large iceberg scraping the ground in the Ross Sea. Okay. I don't think the mic's picking it up that good. Here you go. So this one isn't as creepy. If you have headphones on, you can hear it a little bit more.

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All right, this one is called Julia. This is one I'm pretty sure you're talking about. Yeah. So Julia is a sound recorded on March 1st of 1999 by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA. It claims it was an iceberg. But there is no way to confirm the theory. I hate it! Yeah, that is the sound. Sounds like a whale. I love the scary music. That's also in the ocean. This one is called The Bloop and this one's one of the more popular ones.

So the bloop is an ultra low frequency and extremely powerful underwater sound detected in 97. The sound is believed to be an ice quake. Interesting. Didn't know that was a thing. But many theorists believe that is not correct. This one's a little harder to hear, but it's like a quick like bloop sound.

Bloop. Yeah, I heard it. Bloop. So that's the bloop. Those are the creepy, unexplained sounds of the sea. The sounds of the sea. Some people think it could be very large animals. Are you thinking it's aliens? Maybe it's aliens.

Or it's simply just ice scraping against the bottom of the ocean, which, again, is very creepy. There's one more thing that I've seen that I wanted to share that kind of like maybe. debunk some of the creepier stuff. But this is the sound of a stone skipping on a frozen lake. In this video, you might hear like people talking and whatnot, but we're going to go for it. He's very excited. Here we go. Listen That is the sound of a rock skipping

So you're saying that a lot of the sounds could be debunked as like icebergs or ice. I think it's just like I sound sounds that we are not used to hearing. And I mean. If you go skiing sometimes, the sound of your skis or board going along on snow makes some weird sounds. Yeah. I just wanted to bring that up to discuss what maybe these sounds could be.

they are creepy and there are many more even just whale sounds are creepy yeah hearing whale sound free willy yeah which i also learned i used to love orcas because of free willy and then i learned that they're all Also mean. They're all mean. They're wild animals. They're like, yeah, they're killer whales is their name. They're killer whales. Yeah, what a movie. They also eat seals. Told you seals are the... They gotta eat. Seals are the... What do seals eat?

Fish. What about the fish? Don't you feel bad for the fish? Oh. I eat fish. You can't. It's weird. I get it. It's a weird thing when you feel bad for one animal. Yes, I know. And then you break it down and you're like, well, it's the same thing if you have pets. Yeah. And you would be like, I would never eat a dog, but I would eat a pig. Yeah. The pig is like kind of close to a dog. Yeah. And far as far as like intelligence and emotional capacity goes. It's weird. I could be another podcast.

Eating animals. Eating animals is creepy. That's a good one. I mean, it is. I'm going to add that to our list. Oh, God. I'd be going into like. the vegan vegetarian yeah i mean that's there's a little more to unpack i mean that there's also some creepiness that comes with that as well so I was about to say, I did not like this topic. I have lots of anxiety now. Yeah. But it doesn't really matter because I don't live and or I'm not going to the ocean anytime soon. Yeah. I also like, I mean.

another more controversial but like i have concerns that like the tides are gonna rise and like the sea level is gonna rise so i definitely yeah that's why you never because i said i was like what are your thoughts what if we instead of a lake house we try to live like on a bay or an ocean and I mean, I don't think it's going to happen like tomorrow, but I mean, granted years. Yeah. Twenty five.

I mean, sea level is rising, so it's not out of the question to think that some areas- But it's also, you're a lot more susceptible to- Yeah, storms. Storms and surges and floodings. Yeah. No, it's fine. I don't need to live by the ocean. It is beautiful, though.

I'll rent a, well, you can rent houses on the ocean. We don't have to live there. Like a sunset on a calm sea with just waves. I'm saying that North Carolina house when you could look out. We saw dolphins. Yeah, we saw dolphins. One morning, me and you took a, like at night, we were like, let's just walk.

the beach for a little bit we got to see the sunset and just sit there little crabs popping up all you hear is little like the waves crashing it's very calming it is it's well that's just nature it's very beautiful but it's nature and wild and you can't that's a perfect example of something being beautiful but creepy we were literally sitting there enjoying it all of a sudden i was like i see eyes yeah

there's eyes on the sand and then we started realizing there's little sand crabs literally not even joking like hundreds if not thousands across this beach Like at one point I was nervous to walk in certain parts because I thought I was going to step on one. Well, they're very skittish, but like you didn't want to just sit there because they would they would start slowly coming to you. Yeah. Yeah. And then my nephews came and tried to catch them.

I did. I think they caught one. Put one with a turmeric crab and they weren't buddies. They literally, they're just like, oh. It's dusk time. I got to come out. It was like all day. We never saw any of them. And then the second it's like the sun was setting. I wonder if it's like maybe that's when they go for like bugs or something. I think it's at night. That's probably when they hunt.

they're like they're wake but i'm trying to think what they hunt it's probably bugs or stuff bugs are like maybe the little fish that kind of like get beach or not you know when you look at the water sometimes you see those tiny fish or you see like the yeah plankton shrimp yeah it could be those things i know crabs usually

eat plankton and stuff and they can eat little fish yeah it's a very creepy world the ocean also why yeah you only have knowledge of five percent of it that's like crabs and lobsters they got pin sharp Freaking pincer claws. There's a lot of creepy things that animals have to defend themselves. I like it. Don't go in the water. I'm not. That's why I haven't.

in a long time even when we went to the beach i didn't really go in in yeah i like it fear i i think it's it's a it's definitely not an irrational fear but it's definitely that's why i like concerning That's why I like when we go to visit Florida, my mom always says how much the Gulf of Mexico is nicer than the Atlantic Ocean. I think it's on the other side.

And forever, I was just like, I don't know what you're talking about. Ocean is the ocean. Then I went and I was like, no, I like the Gulf. So the Gulf of Mexico is calmer and you can see through the water. a lot easier and it's warmer essentially a giant bay yeah so i enjoy it because i can see yeah like i've seen stingrays and stuff but just see being able to see it takes away the like as much of the nervousness when i'm in the atlantic ocean i can't tell what the heck is happening

And there's jellyfish in the Atlantic. Yeah, the jelly. That's one of the like more common fears to actually be. That's my last story before when I went to go visit Michelle when she lived there. We were like, let's go to the beach. I'm in the beach. It was a beach. And literally nobody was in the water. We're like, this is weird. Was there a shark sighting or like, yeah.

Yeah, whatever. We went down. We were like, we're not really going to go in. We really want to sit and like maybe put our feet in. We went down and we found out it was jellyfish mating season. And I was like, what does that mean? And I kid you not, we went down and looked down in the water. It was just jellyfish everywhere. It was like the water was covered in jellyfish and maybe Manowars, whatever, which I think isn't a Manowar like multiple jellyfish.

Like some sort of Pokemon. Like they just merge together and become a new Pokemon. Man of War. Man. I think it's Man of War. Man of War. Look at it! It's so gross. What is it? What is this? It does look like an evolved Pokemon. I hate it. What is this thing? It's like they said that If you get stung by that, I'm pretty sure you have to go to the hospital. It's a marine hydrozone. Hydrozone. Found in the Atlantic Ocean. Considered to be the same species.

Oh, that's a Portuguese Manowar. Look up the Pacific Manowar. But that wouldn't be... Yes, Pacific's the one I saw because it was in the Pacific Ocean. No, the Pacific's on the West Coast. Oh. Oh, duh. I guess they're all similar. They're all kind of the same. Yeah, they are weird. But yeah, we saw them. But it's weird. Remember, it was mainly those jellyfish that look like hockey pucks.

You know what I'm talking about? Those disc ones, they don't really have tentacles. Yeah. Those were the ones that were everywhere, but they still sting you. So we couldn't even, we were like, let's put our feet in. And we sat there for a sec and tried to put our feet while the waves crashed up, thinking that like the jellyfish would stay out.

Yeah, it was worth it. Wait, what's that? Jellyfish. I'm trying to see like... There's all different types of jellyfish. Although I did say it would be cool if I ever had a jellyfish like fish tank. Oh, you know what's also weird? What? Horseshoe crab. Why did that come up? I love horseshoe crabs. They're so creepy. I don't know why. I like them. Look at this thing. I played with them. I know they have a little like stinger thing on the tail too.

They are so creepy. Whenever I would see their shells, I'm like, what is this monster? Ask my mom when I was a little kid. I would find them on the, because you could find them like on the beach. Yeah. still alive. I'd go up and I would pick them up and put them back in the ocean because I thought they were so cute. You thought this was cute? Yeah, look, if you zoom in, there's little eyes. Yeah, I... There's little eyes on the top. That's weird.

they're weird you know why I also like them they're like a prehistoric yeah they're like they said they're one of the oldest animals basically like they found fossils of it it's like the Pokemon like what is it Ammonite or whatever Kabutops yeah it's Kabutops

A lot of people are probably like, wait a minute, you liked horseshoe crabs, but every other animal freaked you out. Yes. I don't know why I have some sort of emotional attachment to horseshoe crabs. I think because we went to an aquarium once and they let me like hold one and pet it. I don't like him.

It's just a shell. It's like a shell. I'd rather hold a jellyfish. Yeah, my mom thought it was weird too. She doesn't like them. The horseshoe crap. You'd rather hold a jellyfish? You know what would be kind of cool? When the jellyfish roll, if you went... like when they were all in the water there, if you went like full, like protective gear and just swim with a jellyfish. I always wanted a jellyfish fish tank. They are very cool. Like, yeah, I just wouldn't know how to take care of them.

You give them plankton or something. Everything eats plankton. Just throw plankton in there. I don't know how to acquire it, but. But yeah, I think that's all. I've gotten all my gripes about the ocean out. Yeah. Hopefully nobody's listening to this right before they're about to go take a big deep sea fishing trip. I don't know. I would do scuba diving again, but in a coral reef.

A far away from the deep. Scuba or snorkeling? Sorry, snorkeling. I don't think I could ever do scuba. I don't have any. It's very cool. Just being underwater for that long without like. No, I don't think I have. I can. I'll scuba in the coral reef. Good. I don't have any, like if I die having never scuba'd, I'll, I don't feel like I can't scuba. What's the point of all this?

I'm just not good. I feel like you need to like be very calm under pressure, especially for the breathing of that. And I'm not. So I feel like it's just setting me up for failure. I like it. Come up and get the beds. Yeah, that was something we just... I like the ocean. I'm also freaked out by it at the same time. I would like to explore the ocean more. I want to lead the charge with James Cameron. I do want to go on more island ocean vacation trips.

But just not be in the depot. Yeah. I like to look at it from a distance and appreciate it. It's good. And so what you should do with a lot of nature. Yeah. Observe. And also stop dumping trash in the ocean. Yeah. Companies. Knock it off. knock it off pollution knock it off i'm doing my part i have the biodegradable straws yep yeah that's a whole nother thing we could also talk about garbage garbage pollution

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