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Music Is Creepy

May 31, 20231 hr 15 min
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This episode delves into the unsettling side of music, discussing how different sound elements evoke fear and unease. Lauren and Bobby share personal concert experiences, favorite genres, and explore eerie legends like The Mars Volta's Ouija board curse, the 27 Club, and Ozzy Osbourne's infamous bat incident. They also touch on fan disturbances, the evolution of artists, and the unique ways music impacts our lives.

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This week on Everything is Creepy: Lauren and Bobby explore the eerie aspects of music, including its ability to trigger a range of emotions, its transformational qualities, and more!

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Music's Emotional Impact and Creepy Nature

Hey, Bobby, you know what's really creepy? What, Lauren? Music. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it kind of is creepy. I feel like that was the first time we got to the point immediately in the last, like, month or two of podcasts. We're on it. We're on it today. And for the audio only listeners, we're wearing band t-shirts today in celebration. I'm wearing two. I'm wearing a t-shirt and a hoodie. Yeah. Do you want to say what bands are on your... So I'm wearing Dr. Dog.

It even says touring band on it. It's a really cool shirt. We got it at one of their shows. And then we got my Blink-182 World Tour hoodie that we got a couple days ago. Yeah. At Madison Square Garden, New York City.

Yeah, and I'm wearing my Blink-182 band t-shirt that I got from the tour. And there's all tour dates on the back because those are the best t-shirts. I like that one. They're cool when you look back because I have old ones. When you look back. At the tour dates. Yeah, just the dates. That's the one I was at. Yeah. But yeah, we had the idea for music because we, like Bobby said, we just went to a concert on Friday this past Friday. It also was mentioned a lot in your community post on YouTube.

Oh, music? I was like, what was our concert? How did they know that we were going to the concert? People had mentioned music. We need to look into that. How do they know? I was like, yes, good idea, good topic. Music is definitely creepy in various ways. From just like the actual sound and what emotions it can provoke to all of the creepy things that have happened in the musician music world industry throughout the years. It is weird. Why does music affect us?

Well, there's a lot of reasons. Of course, Chad was able to assist me. I thought you were going to say, I don't know. It's a mystery, like art. Well, it is art. I think music also... it does something with your brain in terms of like memory. Like when you hear a song from your childhood or high school and you hear it and you're like, ah, you have all these like fond memories or whatever kind of memories you have of that time. I think music is just able to hit like a certain.

thing in your brain that helps you remember things well. It's also cool because I feel like my my most memorable favorite movies have like a memorable. Yeah. Like if you hear the Lord of the Rings music, you immediately like go into that universe or like Harry Potter. Yeah. That's a, that's a big like Jurassic Park. A big meme I've seen on the internet is people who.

like here you know the one with like john cena with the headphones on yeah that one people do that with like lord of the rings like you hear that and like settling in you should start working out to lord of the rings sound really epic but i was talking about like the battle music yeah um yeah i mean as in lord of the rings i mean every time i like when i first start the first one it's like It definitely brings me joy when I first hear it. The Hobbit music? Yeah.

Happiness makes me happy. I don't know what. I'm trying to think of what movie music makes me happy immediately. Yeah, definitely. I mean, Star Wars is iconic. Oh, yeah. That's very... I was like... That's the whole podcast. We're just going to try and recreate our favorite movie soundtracks. Very accurately from Parks and Rec. He's like, I like to think of them as the director making a mixtape of his favorite music or something for you. Ben says that because he has like all.

When him and April in the car, it's all soundtracks and movies. Do you want to hear what Chad had to say about music emotions with sound? Sure. Give me like the not that I'm in school version. Got it. I did have like clips of the actual like things they're talking about. I don't think I should play. Yeah, probably not. Okay, just to make it easy for our editor Blair and not play the music.

Elements of Creepy Sound Design

So I had to listen to it because I wasn't exactly sure what some of them were talking about. But like we've been saying, music, it's able to bring about these emotions. So according to our good old friend Chad, for those of you who aren't up to date. chat gpt music has the power to evoke a wide range of emotions including fear and unease here are some examples of music that can be perceived as creepy or unsettling as i asked chad for some

Creepy music things. So dissonance. So it's the deliberate use of dissonant notes or chords that can create a sense of tension and uneeds. Dissonant intervals or unresolved harmonies can give a piece of music a haunting. Or unsettling quality space. Is that the rise? It's hard. I can't like. And then it just stops right before. It's all different things, but like it's hard to. I can't like. Yeah.

that's why i said we might not be able to go over these without music uh minor keys that's definitely yeah when it's like the it's basically like yeah or if you put like on the guitar like if you ever hear me playing like a minor chord it has that more like dark sounding sad sound to it, which is very interesting how music. But my question was, why? Like, why is that? Why? It's just why you want you want the non school answer, then I don't know how to.

I want the thought-provoking answer. I think it just... I don't want a lot. I'm sure it's just something that people use that throughout history has been associated with, like sadness and whatnot. I guess I should have looked it up. Like, why... Do humans have such a connection with music, but not really like other animals? Well, other animals do, but they're not making music. Well, I guess like whales and dolphins make sounds. I mean, I know there's like...

I'm sure I've seen videos of like dogs reacting to music and stuff. What about birds? Yeah, birds. Birds make songs. Birds make songs. They sing. Sing songs. Tweety tweet. Unconventional time signatures. This one was a little more. you definitely have to listen to it but if you are someone who knows like music well and you hear it's basically instead of like one two three four one two three four it's playing music that's on like

five-fourths, seven-eighths, odd scales. And when you hear it, it's very like off-putting. Well, it's jarring when something's not in a pattern. Yeah, it's very...

Eerie Audio Experiences and Effects

very interesting like it's they say like when the rhythm feels off kilter or irregular you can cause that like feeling of unsettling I feel like that's how you felt remember we were watching Dave and that oh my god

So if you ever watch the show, I can't believe they brought it back, which is so annoying. Oh, yeah. They brought it in another episode. So there's a Dave episode where they tried to. By the way, if you've never watched Dave, it's a pretty good show. You should watch it. Not many people do. But we watch Dave.

And one of the backing tracks for one of the episodes because they were trying to make it creepy. Yeah. Was it that one? No, it wasn't that episode. It was the one where they visited the family. Oh, okay. Then that was a creepy one. So they were trying to make it creepy, but the music that they had in the back one was freaking Bobby out. It's because the way they recorded it. Cause we have, he like did not believe me that it was in the show. I was freaking out. I wasn't sure if it was like.

coming from melody's room or just like something weird in the house but it's because we have like surround sound it's nothing crazy it's just the like main tv speakers and two speakers in the side and the way they were able to mix it it just sounded like it was not coming Wasn't it like? Yeah. It's just out of nowhere in the background of the track. It was so creepy. He had to pause the show. He did not believe me to where he paused the show and kept rewinding it to see that it was.

happening in the same point in the show which is like another thing we don't really like there's plenty of especially like older music when they were experimenting more like pink floyd beatles where they would experiment more with uh different

like hearing sound in different areas if you're wearing headphones especially you can hear that like you only hear on the left side the right side it'll sound like it's coming from the back yeah they can make it like move around you and yeah that's great when music technicians or whatever they're called can do that it's very cool music technicians

Sounds like that's the right word. Sounds right. Let's just go with it. I guess kind of to go with what we just said about Dave, disembodied voices or whispers. So it's the use of whispered vocal or eerie disembodied voices. The music can send chills down your spine. So there's the songs where there's a couple of songs. Yeah, like that or like there's a Kings of Leon song and there's a Strokes song where they're like.

they're whispering or like speaking very quietly and unless you're like a huge fan of the band or the music you don't really know it but when you find it out you can hear it and you go back and like listen to it and try to figure out what they say or sometimes if they'll do it live they'll say it a little louder Just a cool way of using sound to provoke emotions, whether it's creepy or not. The use of silence and pauses, strategic pauses and moments of silence. This always...

Avant-Garde, Horror Motifs, Urban Silence

Gets me when we're watching shows, especially now that we have melody and we're trying to like keep the volume not too loud. I can start anticipating a jump scare because of the way they edit sound. side note so you're listening to like a movie like let's five out of ten volume make it simple and it's good it sounds good and then all of a sudden it gets crazy loud it shoots up to ten or when you're watching tv and the commercials are like yeah that's the worst

300 times louder. Oh, it's so annoying. I hate people do that. That's like I. My sister, whenever we would go visit them and we used to watch TV a lot more than we do now, but they used to like they used to mute during commercial. I thought that was the smartest thing. Yeah. Because then you could have a conversation, too. It's not.

let's talk about that experimental or avant-garde techniques which when i looked up like avant-garde music because like you've heard of avant-garde like art it's just like weird yeah art let's just call it um music whole god

Like, you know how jazz music kind of can sound all over the place sometimes? Avant-garde music is spine-diggling. So don't trust somebody who likes listening to avant-garde music. I listen to a little bit. Not your favorite. There, it's just like... racket at times oh after this we gotta talk about what our favorite music is yeah and least favorite music sure

Well, we share that. Musical motifs with horror. Some musical motifs or themes have become synonymous with horror and can evoke a sense of fear or unease. Something that comes to my mind is like Jaws. Yeah, it's the rise. That's the rise too. It's going. Yeah. Like you said before, how and why does music affect us like this? It must just be ingrained.

in us from watching maybe it's just a combination of like sounds in the real world that would make us uncomfortable yeah and then just translating that over yeah because like if you hear like a all of a sudden like a loud crash, like that can surprise you. And I guess, or just silence in general could be unsettling. Like if you're anticipating something, if you're somewhere like, think about if you went to New York city and there was silence, wouldn't that be creepy?

Backmasking Theories and Subliminal Messaging

You'd be like, what is happening? Where did everybody go? I'm sure there's times during early morning. when it's quiet and you're like oh yeah I've seen like videos when like that's one of my favorite times though Casey Neistat will go like running at like five in the morning and the city's like the city yeah the only time I've experienced it is during blizzards when we lived there or hurricanes that was weird I forgot about that yeah

Yeah, going a little off topic, but yes, there's been a couple instances where because we lived in the city or worked in the city, we were there during odd. I'll also never forget walking around Times Square at about three or four in the morning, like home. In college, just we walked through it from wherever we were like the bars or wherever. That was weird because there was like nobody there, but all the lights are still on. So it's like a zombie movie.

And the last thing Chad has here is back masking, which refers to the technique of recording audio in reverse with secret messages. I have heard of. I'll get into that a little bit more later. It wasn't there. One of the like heavy metal bands that said something about the devil. Yeah. Yeah. It was. I forget who it was. Oh, man. It wasn't Korn. No, no, it's older. It's Led Zeppelin. Yeah. Wasn't that a song?

Was that in Little Nicky or did they make? They did that in Little Nicky, too, where like they made. I mean, they made up, but like they reversed because he's like, oh, you know, like about like Led Zeppelin. He's like, oh, have you listened to this guy? Yeah. Like who does Melody? Who did she use? Melody-like? The singer. Oh, James Taylor. James Taylor. It was someone like James Taylor. Oh, yeah, that's right. Or something like that. Yeah, I'm sure it has been done.

intentionally after the fact i don't know i don't believe in some of it's creepy i don't believe in reverse sounds though getting into your subconscious and then making you do things no it's not a reverse sound no like maybe i believe in a little bit of like subliminal messaging for sure like visually or when people do that in like torture scenarios they can work but i don't think reversed music is gonna or even like hiding little

audio things in a song that you don't really hear yeah is gonna actually do anything but who knows people just having fun with sound well there was that conspiracy you know the um the Didn't you listen to the video with me on YouTube where they talked about the Justin Bieber song? They're like, oh my God. It was one of the songs they broke down.

that it might have been like subliminal messaging in it. And it was crazy, like the amount of evidence that they had. Look up Justin Bieber's Where Are You Now song. And there's people that like dissect that they did. like musical voodoo basically to make that song popular. There was specific tones that like, I guess I could understand that because they said. With research and things, they found that specific tones and pacing and beats are more popular with certain like.

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Hearing, Focus, and Communication Differences

There's also like certain notes that as you get older, you can't hear anymore. Have you ever done that? Like frequencies? I think it has to do with like, it's also just like how good your ears are, your half of your ears and just. your age as things start to diminish. Yeah. My ears are still good. I have good hearing. I think my problem is like, you know what? I know it's a thing. So let's say if I'm watching TV and you start talking to me. Yeah.

They're like, I can't, it's so hard for me to be able to. Oh, I know. Cause when you're listening to something on your phone, I think you're listening to me and then you don't respond. And I'm like, he, my, my brain like has like a fit. It just can't. I mean, I will say it goes back and forth and tries to like, I will say that. And this is this is just from studies and biology. This is not me generalizing, but there has been studies that show that men.

biological men that's just a problem with you that's something that's wrong with your your gender have we have Problem with. Well, no, they say that multifocus like biological women are better at say at like to hear it doing multiple things at once. Yeah. And like. I mean, there's pros and cons to everything because because women are good at that, they're never fully focused on like one thing, whereas men tend to be focused on one, only be able to focus on one thing at a time. Yeah.

Like if you if you do too many things, it's going to like cause issues. That's why I also learned during my administrative assistant days. For a man that I learned early on, if I sent a text message with three different questions, he will most likely answer one of them. So I need to only ask one question at a time and then I will get it. That's probably more of like a generational thing.

Yeah. No. Maybe not. Same with you. I mean, you're pretty good at answering. Well, it's great now is like at least with iPhones and you can like reply. Yes. Thank God. That was I know you do that with Hillary. Well, that's why like Hillary's learned to send me. separate text messages so I can so if I can easily reply to like two of her things I will and then maybe wait to answer the next one later but then so the conversation doesn't get jumbled she doesn't get answers I wish

I wish I had that when I, when I was an assistant, that would have helped me so much. Cause sometimes I'd ask him three questions. He'd say, yes. I'm like, okay, well, wait. Yes. To what? All of them. Yes. All right. Back to music. What is your favorite music?

Favorite Music Genres and Evolution

type band singer i guess so i've been trying to figure this out because i don't know there's so many different types of rock music yeah i mean you could just say so it's like i guess rock but then there's like indie rock, there's alternative rock, there's punk rock, there's garage rock. So I don't know. What's garage rock? And there's heavy metal. It's definitely not heavy metal, but.

crotch rock what would oh the strokes that's why that's why you know oh it says there yeah oh yeah that's why yeah well it's like the strokes the white stripes because i've seen it the stroke type in indie rock Mine's either alternative rock or indie rock. I want to see what bands are associated with indie rock. Arctic Monkeys, Strokes. No, no, no, no. So then do alternative rock. I think it's the one that I like.

Radiohead. Really? What? Are white stripes classified as everything? Nirvana. No, Nirvana's not. Chili Peppers. Yeah, I would. The Strokes again. What's the, that's. Oh, and Green Day. Okay, what, like, whatever category, like, Incubus. I would say that Blink 182 is punk rock. This is not. Yeah. So that's why I wouldn't say punk rock. No. So just sort of. OK, sure. Yeah, just say rock. I mean, wait, alternative rock is a category of rock music that emerged.

Alternative refers to the genre's distinction from mainstream or commercial rock or pop music. But the problem is... What is commercial rock? Why are there so many types of rock? Well, that's the thing is that... They say that, but then the bands will become more popular and the music will transform to them. So what is a rock band that is technically pop music called? Pop rock? What do you mean? Duh.

What do you mean? That's what I meant. Is it called something else? Yeah, Pop Rock. Like Maroon 5. Like, would you count Blink-182 as Pop Rock because they became popular? Pop Punk. That's what they've described themselves as. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. What is Incubus described as then? I don't know. Let's find out. I thought it was either alt or indie. Music genre. Alt.

With metal funk. With metal funk? Yeah, well, because they use turntables and stuff. If we look this up, it says alternative rock, alternative metal funk is their genre. I mean, I guess you could be multiple genres. Linkin Park is multiple things. Yeah. I saw this thing. It was like Limp Bizkit, Incubus, and Linkin Park and comparing them and saying how because Linkin Park was so good at combining the rap, the rock.

the turntables, the DJ, whereas like Limp Bizkit was too much in like one direction and like Incubius is a little too, but that's who they are. It's not a matter of like they're doing it right or wrong. Yeah. But that's cool thing about music is it's very subjective and then it evolves over time. One of the things that I have a like gripe with people.

It's definitely changed, but more of my friends are like, oh, I don't want to go see this band live anymore or listen to them because they've changed. It's like, yeah, they changed. When they started out, they were young teens in their early 20s. just partying like. But I feel like that's anything. Yeah, exactly. Like your favorite TV show, your favorite YouTuber, your favorite celebrity. Yes. Like everybody changes. People don't. People don't. I mean, people do, but a lot of people.

don't understand like yeah they changed now they're in their 40s or 50s and they have kids and wives like they're not going to sing about going out and getting drunk or whatever they used to sing about yeah they're going to do it in different ways talk about life and stuff

Diverse Music Tastes, Live Show Views

By the way, I think my first favorite is rock. My second favorite is probably like electronic music. Yeah, I think mine's more. I went through a really big EDM phase in New York City for a while, so that carried over. I would say my second favorite type. Actually, let's go more with these. I hate that. Yeah, what is his music genre? Or that? I could never get into this genre. What? How? I guess so. So the band I looked up was Fleet Foxes. So like Fleet Fox, so definitely...

My first favorite is Rock, Strokes, Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Kings of Leon, Blink-182, Dr. Dog, those bands. Linkin Park. Linkin Park. But they're different rock. Yeah. Anyway. And then it comes, then it's like more relaxing. Chill Music. I didn't get to go over my bands. You can. We're just going back and forth here. The time, the moment's passed now. Nobody's going to know. Fleet Foxes, Bon Iver. I got really into Bon Iver. I remember that. I don't know why I can't get into it.

I get it, but I won't just like put it on. If it doesn't, that's the cool thing about music is like it doesn't hit you. If it doesn't like, if you hear it and it doesn't make you feel good, then that's not for you. I remember we went to their concert, the Bon Iver concert. I went with you.

It was a long time ago. It was like when we were dating. Really? Where? Yeah. It was at Beacon. Oh. You don't even remember. Me and PJ went. Did PJ go? I definitely went with PJ. I thought it was just me and you. I definitely went to see them because I remember being like, I only know like one song. Maybe we went. And then I went. I thought PJ came. All I remember is there was lots of lights. It was dark. Yeah. And they had like. I just remember everyone sitting down.

Yes. So I was there. So maybe PJ is definitely the one who's like gone to the most shows with me. I I remember going and all of it sounded the same to me. It was nice. It was peaceful. Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, it was the first concert where everybody was just sitting. And I was like, this is weird. And then I would go with like, even though I don't listen to it as much as I used to, I used to listen to Bob Marley and just. Oh, yeah. I used to listen to so much. Bob Marley is like.

a summer vibe yeah if i put it on i'm feeling happy if you listen to like more of his especially his older music that first came like when they first came out when it was like bob marley and the whalers like peter tosh that was definitely had a different vibe to it than when he went like more solo. Yeah, he, when I was in college, I was really into, and then Radiohead, Radiohead's another favorite of mine. Yeah, that's another one I never got into. They're definitely like,

Any music that can just evoke such a wide range of motions, they're definitely the best live show. Who? Radiohead. It was the best live show I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of shows. And they did three encores, which is insane. Okay, can we talk about Encores? Go ahead. I hate them. We've talked about this many times. I hate them. I think they're unnecessary. They are a waste of time. Well, the reason is they used to do it so like the band could go take a break.

care but if you're like i don't know i guess it was more so for like back in the day when bands were not you know in touring shape or just different but like yeah it's It's cool, but it's also annoying. Okay, I wouldn't mind if the band needed to take a break, but just then like go make them take a break. Don't make us like have to continue to clap and yell until you come back out. Yeah.

I get it's a traditional thing. I'm definitely on the side of I'd rather not be. But we went to Blink and they don't have. Blink was awesome. Mark was like, this is our last song and then we're going to play three more. And it's that's awesome because, you know, like, we got three more songs. Like, get all your energy out.

like try you know enjoy every last minute of this i love that i know my favorite band the strokes they used to never do them and then they got like bullied into it one time i guess maybe because they have a good amount of songs and they maybe didn't play some like classic songs and they were at a small show and they said like people were like freaking out that they didn't play an encore which is weird because if you know the band you know that they never play on they weren't real fans yeah um

Music Nostalgia and New Discoveries

So, yeah, they I don't think they do it anymore. I think they just whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I am. You know what else is weird? I feel like most of my favorite music originated from high school and then just never changed. Yeah. Like. there's definitely been new people that have come in. Like I love Billie Eilish. He's a huge Ed Sheeran. Like those are two people I would really like to see in concert that are newer, like not in high school that I found.

but I just haven't got, I don't know. I don't have that like die besides the two of them. I don't have that like die hard, like love for a new. Yeah. I was actually thinking about that when we were getting ready to go see blink is that. I don't really know any new music and I'll hear like new stuff every now and then. New songs I definitely will like. Yeah, like Taylor Swift. Like, don't get me wrong. I like the newest.

Like the Harry Styles song that I couldn't stop listening to for forever. But I don't like, I'm not like a diehard fan of theirs. Because there's no nostalgia tied to it. I think it's also you become like a fan of a band when you're younger because. It's like you idolize it's an idolize and it's you can like more identify It's weird now like when I told you remember I was like I love Billie Eilish I like idolize her you were like you idolize it

17 year old girl. And I was like, well, yeah, that's a little weird when you think of it like that. She's so confident in herself. She just knows who she is. She's definitely cool. I don't care. I will idolize it. 17-year-old girl. Well, I think she's 20 now. Okay, is it better now? Yeah, I think she's 21. Yeah, you don't idolize new singers as much, I feel like.

They're just in a different life path. Meanwhile, we're going to Blink-182 where it's a bunch of like 40, 50 year old dudes cracking jokes as if like they're back in high school. Yeah. So it's nice. It was like getting teleported back to high school. They were awesome.

Fuse TV Experience, Concert Seating Tips

And I used to, so Lauren and I met at Fuse TV, which is, was, I don't think it's around anymore. A music television network. Yeah. I don't know if it's around. We were interns and. So it was like MTV, but like. like diet MTV. What was more about music? Definitely more music, especially MTV started that way. Yes. So it was like, I think fuse came in and was like MTV is no longer about music. Yeah. So we're going to come in and be about music.

So when we started, they were starting their show called Hoppus on Music, which was with Mark Hoppus from Lincoln 82. I still have the shirts. And I eventually became the host coordinator there. So I was like in charge of his scheduling and his transportation and just. helping him out when he was there. So I became pretty close to him. So it was really cool for me to like see him playing again, especially after he just had a is in cancer remission. It was definitely.

Like a very emotional experience seeing him up there again. And just, I don't know, we also had an awesome scene. So here's my tip. If you ever go to a show, a concert that's inside an arena. The best seats in the house for view and audio are. So if there's a floor, there's like the pit.

And then there's the general admissions seats. By the way, this is generally like a stadium where they maybe play sports games. Yeah, because that would be the only way they would set this back up. Correct. But it will work in most places. So what you want to get is the. seats that are in the first like bleachers right when this bleachers start going up directly across from the stage.

So if like you're looking straight at the stage and you're above everyone, so your view is not blocked, you might get one tall person because there's always a tall person. But for us people who are, you know, shorter. can't do the, I don't ever do general. It's fun to do general admission.

You can't see anything if you're short. But yeah, if you want the best seats in the house, try and get directly across from the stage in like the first couple rows of where the bleachers or the seats start going up. Just a little tip. I realized that after going to so many shows and being like on the sides and where the speakers are and getting your ears destroyed. Oh, that those down there look pretty good.

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Backstage Concert Encounters and Stories

When I used to listen to the radio to and from work, it would just be like, Jingle Ball tickets, Jingle Ball tickets, like for like months. And we would get requests for Jingle Ball. Well, that's because of where we are. Yeah, that's true. So this is like the height of Justin Bieber. Mania. Like hair, like peak hair. Didn't he have his, he had his like sway hair? I think he had just started cutting it, but he, this was like the peak.

So because we worked it, we had like all access passes. We could go wherever we want. So I was working and I was walking across. So where the general admission is, there's usually like a line, like a thing down the middle so people can get to and from the stage. So I walked right up to the stage and I was just feet away from Justin Bieber, just watching him for, I don't know, 20 seconds at most. I was just taking on like, this is very interesting.

right here in front of justin bieber and then something that lauren and i shared is our one of our favorite bands lincoln park when they played i found a really cool spot on the side of the stage where like the their family members were hanging out i'm pretty sure

And we just went and hung out there for as long as we could. We were right next to the drummer. And every time like Chester or Mike would come up like to the side there right by us, that was really cool. And then it's crazy because three years ago I played Among Us with. Mike from Lincoln Park. Crazy how life works out. You know, people always say it's a small world.

It's funny how things like that happen. I'll never forget that. They're like, do you want to play Among Us with Mike Shinoda from Linkin Park? He's like, what? Well, he got really into streaming and stuff. I think he's still doing it. Yeah, he does it. Yeah, he does all different like art and music stuff. And then another really cool one was we were working in Elton John concert. That was at Beacon, right? That was like the first one of the first ones I ever did.

It was a beacon. Yeah. Oh, Drake. We had Drake. I think I was walking backstage and said, what's up to Jay-Z. You know, what's funny is I don't, I think that's when Drake was just up and coming because he was at the beacon. He wasn't even at MSG at that point.

Yeah, Jay-Z was like coming out to do a song with him and I was walking backstage to get like one of the producers tea and I would cross paths with Jay-Z and said what's up to him. That was pretty awesome. And then, yeah, so we did the Elton John show and... We were like done with what we were doing. We were hanging out there and people were like, oh, they're doing soundcheck. If anyone wants to go and just like watch it. So we got to go and just.

sit there and watch one of the greatest musical performers ever do soundcheck which was awesome not many people there because it was cool because they would play a song he would stop he would say like oh i need you to like you know, turn this person up, do this, do that, play it, boom, done. They're seeing absolute professional, like masters at their craft. It was really cool. Yeah. Bit cool gig. Yeah. As interns. Any other?

Musical Awakening and Early Influences

bands or genre well should we talk about the same music that we absolutely hate can't stand yeah well first I didn't get to say my band okay we'll go back to yes we should say so we say my bands and then we could say our shared bands go ahead Whatever you want to do. I feel like there's so many. I'm going to leave some out. Definitely forgotten. I mean, go on your Spotify and look. I mean, I. Oh, yeah. That's fine. Let's see how many I know from memory. My number one one is incubus.

And then I'd say close second is either Linkin Park or Blink-182. And again, this is all from like high school. I feel like it was my peak musical awakening. I mean, before then, don't get me wrong. I was into like Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. What was, do you remember the first CD you ever bought? Because I do. Yes. Well, I didn't buy it. Yes, the first one you ever got. I was given a grease. Soundtrack. Interesting. That was my first like CD and my new CD player and the Titanic soundtrack.

which is pretty funny because I think the only song on the Titanic soundtrack is the Celine Dion and the rest is all just like the music from the movies. Yeah, that's funny. But the first music I like chose to buy, I'm pretty sure was the Blink 182 self-titled album. That was my second one. Linkin Park Meteora. And I like I vividly remember going to the store to buy them. Yeah.

the cds of them um but i don't remember like i remember picking them up i think because the my friends at the time had told me they were good because okay well first of all i came I was coming from like a Catholic school where I had the same people in every class for five years. And then I moved over to public school and then like made new friends, whatever. But in.

Catholic school. I feel like nobody really had a big. Oh, sorry. I do remember why I know Linkin Park. I credit it to my best friend's dad. I remember you telling me this. Yeah.

Thank you. We used to call him Big Jim because there was Big Jim and his son Little Jim. Nice. And then my best friend that lived across the street, her dad was very into like... trapped lincoln park that's awesome um limp biscuit like that whole jagra so whenever we would go there he would play it and i was like i like this yeah like that's why i remember when i got i picked up lincoln park because of him i picked up um blink 182 because

A bunch of my friends told me at the time, like it was a new CD that just came out. I think those were the two I picked up and like, oh, I also got like a Vanessa Carlson CD. Like the girl that the. Yeah, I know. You know, I'd walk a thousand miles. The first CD I ever like remember buying or getting on my own or whatever was.

Was Hooting the Blowfish. Wow. The Blink-182 CD came out in 2003. Yeah. So it was probably like 13. The first one I remember was Enema of the State. With the nerves. That was like the second one I ever did. I wasn't. I was in.

into music around that time yeah so i was yeah that was i'm telling you i didn't get into like my own choice of music like we had music my parents music which i still do like too it's like yeah james taylor phil collins the beatles like my parents are more into like the classic rock which is cool i think that's what kind of shaped my musical taste towards more rock

Pink Floyd that my mom was really into. I got really into Pink Floyd at one point. I think my parents were too, but I don't remember. When I was a kid, I literally just remember hearing james taylor phil collins the beetle nice like that's like my memory yeah um

I don't think if there's any other bands. Yeah, I feel like the rest of the music I was into up until like I went to high school. Oh, so that was two that I was probably 13, 14. So maybe about to go in high school. Yeah. Right. I don't know what age you go to high school. Okay. That age. But I feel like up until that point, I just liked music that like people told me I should like. So like boy bands, Christina Aguilera. Whatever was on MTV. Yeah, whatever was on MTV.

TRL. So I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. TRL. So I was just like, oh, yeah, I'm supposed to like this music. Eminem was also one of the first CDs I got. I remember when he came out. That was in tech. Because I was like 12, 13 when he came out. And it was like, he was, he was the shit. He was, he was everyone bleaching their hair and everything. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I went through, yeah, Paramore. Basically all that style of music.

Oh, no. And then I went into like AFI, which if you guys didn't see, I think by now my Hot Topic Makeover video came out where I kind of talk about it. But yeah, AFI, Atreyu, Under Oath, like went into that. Nice. What would you call that? Heavy metal? Screamo? Yeah, emo, screamo. Not so much screamo. I didn't like it. If it was too much screaming, I did not like it. There had to be some sort of like singing mixed in. AFI, music.

Genre. Genre. I'm going to say. Alt indie. Why is everything alt indie? Because that's just. All right. Then I guess my favorite music is alt indie. Yeah. Emo. Hardcore. Gothic rock. Horror punk. post hardcore skate punk wait look up like uh under oath or try you trade is probably more hardcore yeah that's why i'm trying to see what

what the other genre is. Rock. Just rock. Metal, yeah. They're like, we don't know. Progressive metal, yeah. That's what I'm thinking of, metal. Okay, so should we...

Dislike for Country Music Explained

cause people to not like us and say what our least favorite music is? Country music. It is absolutely. Oh, you didn't even Flint. You didn't even take a moment to think about it. It is absolutely the most. And I'm sorry, but like brain dead. Oh, God. Vanilla ice cream. Stupid music. And I listen, I get it. And I'm sorry. It doesn't sound like you get it. No, I do get it because I'm trying to be. Middle of the road, like not for me, but good. I understand why people like it, but Bo Burnham.

we brought him up before he makes he like makes a joke about it oh does he and he does it so perfect it's just the same they do the same stuff over and over it's the same it's the same it just it's very simple it's like That's what people like. I understand that. And I understand why it's so popular. And I get it.

I just can't stand it. It like makes me uneasy. It makes me just it makes me want to like squirm away and run away. And my freshman year of college, the house that I the like dorm frat thing that I lived at. All the seniors and upperclassmen loved country. And every time we'd hang out and party, that's all they would play. I don't understand people who party to country music. I can't understand how you can party to country music. I guess it's good background music. No.

Yeah, I'm drinking a beer in my blue jeans. It's so... And I'm sorry if you like country music and you're mad at me right now. And I don't really give a shit. And I have no... I don't care. I've tried. I've listened to it. And I know there's a few like good ones or, you know, like how Taylor Swift kind of like morphed. She got out of it. She realized this is not what I should be playing. Yeah, I absolutely despise it. Whenever.

Whenever I hear it and whenever anyone plays it, I run. I don't want to hear it. I just, I can't, I can't. You judging the music, not the people that listen to it. Correct. Judging the music and saying, break free from the spell. Listen to something else. There's a lot. But what if people like both? It's fine. Oh, the people like, well, yeah. Like your music, but also enjoy. Oh, I love all music.

There's people like that. There's people like that. I like most music. When I hear songs, a lot of times I'm not even almost associating with the words. It's more like the melody and the harmony. How it makes you feel. How it makes me feel.

whereas like country music it's just it's so straight edge plain and boring to me that it's like there's no there's i can't like interpret it in any other way it's like you're doing all the emotion for me whereas i'm just i have nothing like you know what i mean like when i hear like a stroke song and there's you don't really they're it's the lyrics are like they're not straightforward i just realized what song that's why i don't like the one blink 82 song the first date song oh

that's the same feeling I get. Yeah. Cause they literally just lay out exactly what's happening in the song. I think first, I think that was, they wrote that intentionally though to be, Oh, I know it's supposed to be like dumb, like a dumb song. Well then no, like their record label. I think that was one of the, they wrote two songs. Just for the record label? Rock Show.

yeah that one's also very straightforward and simple because they did that intentionally because they had that album done and their record label came back like oh we want like the summer jam pop and they run back home angry it's like a thing you can watch oh i didn't know yeah it's a thing and they went back home and i wrote that

in the rock show and then it became like their most popular but that's the thing is like they're probably like damn it that's why like country it appeals to the most people because yeah I was gonna say I think country is the biggest fan base I know I get it I'm just telling you why I

don't like it. And I haven't listened to it a long time. And maybe now that I've aged and whatever, maybe I'll find more appeal in it, but I very highly doubt it. But that's it. It's that country music does all the emotion for you. Whereas other music. you get to like interpret it. That's it. Country music does all the, it's straightforward. Country music is straightforward. It does all the thinking and everything for you. Whereas other types of music.

doesn't do that as much or whatever and you get to interpret it how you want to interpret it that's what i like about music is i'm interpreting it even sometimes you hear a lyric and you hear it like it's not the right word but to you it works and it makes sense

Like Blink-182, I always thought I was, I walk alone to get the feeling right. It's I work alone to get the feeling right. Oh, I didn't know that either. Yeah. But I'm like, oh, he walks alone. He's going out to like, you know, get in his mindset, whatever. Gotcha. But it's country music. I picked up my cologne that she loves and I put it on and I smell real good and she likes how it smells. Oh, yeah. You get it? That's it. That's country music. That's why I don't like it.

Emerging Favorite: 80s Dance Music

It's just so straightforward and simple. And I'm not saying it's wrong or bad or you're wrong or bad for listening to it. Just I hate it. I was going to say my other new emerging favorite. music genre is, what would you call it, 80s? 80s pop music? 80s dance music? What are we working out to lately?

Oh, like the 80s, 90s dance music. Oh, I thought you said new music. I was like, you're talking. No, like what I've been into listening to lately. Yeah. The party jam playlist I made. Like Asa Bass. Yeah, Asa Bass. Oh, my God. Why can I not think of the I'm Blue song? Yeah, Eiffel 65. Eiffel Tower. Eiffel 65. Is that what the name of it? No, that's Eiffel Tower. I think it's just Eiffel 65.

Memorable First Concert Experiences

I don't know if you remember what your first was, but I remember what my first concert was. Amazing first concert. Unless my mom yells at me and is like, we brought you to one when you were a child. Then I don't know. But like as a, as a. sentient a sentient teenager that remembers um well there was two main ones there was the sum 41 one that i always tell you about where my sister brought

And she was pregnant? To a Sum 41 punk rock show, and she was pregnant. How far? Like, very pregnant. Oh, okay. At least, like... Showing, vividly showing. Yes, she was showing, for sure. She wasn't about to pop, but she was at least showing. Yeah, that was madness because we decided that it would be a good idea. It was all general admission. That's what it was. It was this small venue, all general admission, and we were just being like...

shoved around. Yeah. And she was pregnant. But because she was pregnant, we went up to a security guard and was like, it's really crazy over there. And I was only my dad was still alive. So I was like, I don't know, 12. Uh, no, I was probably 14. Yeah, I was four. It was like right before he passed. He was sick, but I was 14 and she was pregnant. So she literally went off to the security guard.

It's crazy in there. Yeah. I have my little sister. I'm pregnant. So they let us sit in the VIP upstairs. Oh, that's awesome. That's good for them. That was cool. Takeout. Takeout. shopping, and unused subscriptions were quietly draining my account. And as a result, my savings took a back seat. But Rocket Money doesn't just tell you what you're wasting money on. It takes action to save you money.

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My first show that I ever like bought a ticket for myself because I had disposable income that I made myself. Like the first show our parents paid for so that we could go because we. want to do something cool and then this one i paid for it and it was at jones beach we went inside incubus with michelle it was just me and michelle we went to see incubus at jones beach you drive yeah oh okay so my first was maybe 18 first concert i went to i was either

Or no, I was younger, maybe 16, 17. I was around 12 or 13. I could probably look it up. And it was, I think it was 2001. So I was 13, 14 in that range. It was Stone Temple Pilots open for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, God. And it was at PNC Bank Art Center, which is another cool venue. That was awesome. And it was raining. So people were like, there's a grass hill. People were sliding down. Oh, we went. We went and saw Incubus there.

That was the first show. I'll never forget it. I have pretty vivid memories of being there and just being in awe of it. That was when the Chili Peppers would wear socks around their private parts.

Moshing, Crowd Surfing, Festival Pit

Oh, that was that was that era of the chili peppers, especially now that I'm older, like general admission or like the pit. freaks me out i don't do it anymore i've always been scared when we went to music festivals especially because i'm like a small person sometimes they would just like pull people that weren't in the pit they would just pull them off the side and throw them into like the pit area do you know what i'm talking about like really people

Yeah. I've really had seen that. Because you weren't a tiny girl that they were trying to like throw in the pits and dance. No, definitely. When you go to festivals, it's hard. I will never understand that. What is that called? When it's like the pit and guys are going like. Moshing? Yes. Oh my god, I forgot about moshing.

yeah i mean i i like that's scary i enjoy the pit when you can like just no jump up and like bump into people well yeah that's fine rocking out but i hated moshing well that was always so scary i will say when it comes to moshing at least most crowds back in the i don't know they Most people are good about like, if you fall down, people pick you up because you don't want, A, you don't want the mosh and the stop. And B, you don't want the mosh. Do people do that still? What, mosh? Oh, absolutely.

I feel like I haven't heard that word in a long time. We're not going to many live shows where there's moshing going on. Yeah, I remember me and a couple of my friends went to All Points West in 2009 and the Arctic Monkeys played at like 545.

I remember all this stuff and it was super muddy because it had been raining for the couple days leading up to it and no one like people were like you know oh yeah quick side note I can't stand when you go to concerts I don't know how people do it and they just stand no not even like bopping their head not saying it stand like i guess unless you're on a lot of drugs or something i can't hear music and stand still anyway so we're at the festival

Would you say that's creepy? I would say that's creepy. If I looked out in the crowd, there's just one person. There's people all, even at Blink, there's people who just stand there and barely move their head. It blows my mind. I don't have people do it. So we were at this festival and it was like people were moving around a little bit. So me and Tim started like moshing with each other and we made the mosh pit. Nice. It got pretty big. It was pretty cool.

Creepy Singing Ringing Tree Sculpture

I feel like we should move on to the creepy stuff. Yeah. We've already been talking. We should move on. We've been talking a lot. I have a couple. I have a lot. We can. Oh, God. You're going to have to jump around. No, yeah. I'm going to jump around. I found this, which I thought when I was looking up creepy stuff, this came to me. This popped up. It's called the Singing Ringing Tree. So it's in an English town of Burnley in Lancashire. It's a unique musical sculpture.

It's made of galvanized steel and it's all pipes. So it's basically, here it is. I'll show you what it looks like. But I have to play it because it is creepy and I can definitely play it because it's just wind chimes essentially. That's fine. Here it is. I hope you got everyone hear it. And Lauren is your first time hearing it. Enjoy. It's super creepy. It's just it's like a spiral.

Why? Why? Why does this? Look at this thing. Yeah, that is really creepy. So it's, it's. I love it. And the sun probably never shines there because it's England. So it just always looks ominous. It's the sculpture. It's just all these pipes that are like stacked. It looks like a tornado.

swirling you know it looks like a tornado like the top is wider and it like swirls down but i found that and i'm like this is creepy i had to to talk I've never heard about before I've never heard of that either so then Chad kind of gave me like a rundown of just like creepy things of music okay let's kind of skim through here so there's

Concert Catastrophes and Terrorist Attacks

you should pick your favorites yeah i mean it was hard and like study this you know i read it once or twice and put it on the list here um so obviously there's been like catastrophic things that have happened throughout the years at concerts accidents you don't say stampede structural failures uh that resulted in injuries and deaths so there's that creepy aspect of it um probably don't have to talk about that yeah we don't talk about any of that too much

I was seeing if there was. I also know there's like instances where the artist got her. Yeah. I always worry. Like when we were at the Blink show, there was. Oh, this is crazy. Oh. There was those lights over top of them that kept moving and twirling. And I was like, those lights are so heavy. One thing I wanted to, I mean, I guess trigger warning, but something that happened recently that.

i mean i remember pretty well when i was reading it just now i was like holy crap uh the eagles of death metal who's a band that i saw open for the strokes a long time ago uh they were in paris and there was a terrorist attack that took place do you remember that 2015 they entered the venue and opened fire like you can see the band playing and then like you hear fire oh wait yes I do remember I remember you showing me it yeah there was 90 people who died so it was pretty pretty terrible

Well, I feel like even most recently, like there was that one. There was the one in Vegas. Or the Vegas one, which was the country music festival. There was the Ariana Grande one in the UK, the bombing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

yeah yeah there's definitely it opens you know it opens up a lot of people to being vulnerable and it's you know i mean i guess it's for any like if you're at a sports game it'd be the same thing it's like yeah but yeah i'm always very grateful when you go somewhere and they have good security

Fan Disturbances, Stage Rushing, Crowdsurfing

And then you have these asshole YouTubers who sneak in, who like make a thing out of like sneaking into things. Really? Yeah. Oh, well like the ladders and stuff. There's all different ways. People do it all the time and it's like. don't put that out there you're giving people bad ideas like ah i can't stand that like yeah it's damn youtubers like oh wow like this one guy that air attack guy the iraq iraq guy

He snuck into the Lakers game recently because he kind of looks like one of the players. And he wore a mask and he was able to walk right in. I mean, he had like, he got like someone to drive me like, oh, I'm dropping off. Austin Reeves was the basketball player's name. He got in, got onto the court. I think I'll get sued for that.

He got banned. He can't go. He can't. He's like banned from now. But like, I'm not, I don't like that. You're, you're putting people's jobs at risk. Yeah, that too. You're exploiting something. Like somebody's going to get in trouble for that. Someone's going to get in trouble and like.

you're exploiting the like i don't know the niceness of people in a way like you're you're um impersonating a person yeah so you're pretending to be and they're you know like normally like when the players i guess go in like they i don't know it's easy from the game but yeah i i don't like that not a fan of that i feel like i'm an old man when it comes to that it's an old man thing of mine um

The next thing, the next topic was fan disturbances. So that's things. Oh, there was a mosh pit. Mosh pit, yeah. Stage diving, stealing equipment. Oh God, we never even talked about. Stage diving? Have you ever tried to crowd surf? Oh, no.

I would never. Do you know how many times, especially at music festivals, we used to see it all the time. Naughty things that happen. First of all, if you're a girl and you're wearing a skirt or a dress, don't ever do that. But also we've seen people just do it and nobody.

Yeah. They would jump onto people and everybody would kind of like move away because they're like, I don't want to. Or it's annoying to other people if like all of a sudden it's coming from behind you and you're like, oh, I got to lift this.

freaking person up now and yeah yeah you're up in the air and we all got to work out and then you go and security but also it kind of sucks if you do crowdsurf you're going all the way to the back now like you some people do that to get out of there oh that's it's like a It's like a strategy. Yeah, they do it. Like, I guess that's girls will do it because they're, you know, so that's true. It has been in especially music. I've experienced it more so in like music festivals.

But Michelle and I were just talking about it. There was one time we were getting legit, like just cry. We were like up at the front of the stage. Yeah. And people, when the show starts, just all crush forward to try and get as close as possible. Yeah. That's a little, if you're a small person, you're just like. So I remember we had like.

One of our girlfriends was like a big girl and she literally just like powered through and grabbed us and powered us out. That's another reason I don't like going to festivals and standing in the pit as much anymore because you're like fighting for your spot the whole time. Yeah. And like we, me and Justin, we went to that festival a couple of years ago. We saw the Arctic Monkeys and it, we were like, we, you know, we moved up. There was gaps. We weren't like.

pushing people we got to a good spot our core happier but as it's showing up people are just moving and bumping into you and like all of a sudden I'm standing here like all scrunched up and it's like this sucks or if you're outside and it's hot it's just like people sweat and like B.O. Yeah. I went to Coachella. Hair. When I was at Coachella in 2010, it was gross. There's people like making out on top of you. That's also happened to me.

This is a lot of drugs. People aren't paying attention. Another thing we talked about was fans rushing the stage, which, yeah, that can be, I've seen, like, where, like, musicians have, like, kicked the people and stuff. Which also, like... Yeah, as a like as a musician, as a musician myself, like as somebody who's been in situations where like you're on guard because you don't know who is like a fan and who's not. Yeah. Like especially like VidCon, like situations like that where like.

You're you're like you're trying to like see people in a structured man structured way when somebody bum what bummers is the stage and gets up like they deserve to be punished. yeah that is not cool that is not like just in general like people who do it in sports games people like because whether you're well-intentioned or not you just terrified your favorite artist like whether you think you did or not

There's a moment where they're like, is this person going to cause me harm? Why are they coming up on the stage? Yeah, that was the next topic. It was overzealous fans and like to go along with people rushing the stage. There's, like, fans who, like, throw stuff. Remember, like, Kid Cudi left this show because people were throwing stuff at him the whole time? This is young kids, man. They just... You sound like such an old man. I know, but, like, it didn't really happen as much until...

like as i would say as of the past couple years we're like it feels like younger kids when they go to shows they have like a lack of disrespect you know why because because they want to because it's going to get them attention yeah It's going to give them attention. And it's like the de-sensivitation sensitive. I don't know. As somebody who has online popularity, it's not.

It's not it's not what you think it is. It's not fun. Yeah, it's not cool, especially if you're going to get popular for doing something dumb like that. Which is usually a fleeting thing. Nobody's going to be like, oh yeah, I love that guy that threw that thing on that stage the one time. I'm going to watch all their stuff now. I don't get it. I will say though, I did throw a CD on stage.

a boo i didn't try to hit i was i was close and i was i got it right on because people were like this was when julian was doing his solo thing i was at coachella And so my friends used to have a band. Why did you throw it on stage? Did you think he was going to sign it and give it back to you? No, I wanted him to listen to it. It was my friends. Oh, it was. Oh, God. My friends had a band. I threw their like demo CD on stage.

Paranormal: The Mars Volta Ouija Curse

He picked it up and was like, oh, cool. We'll listen to this. I'm sure he didn't, but. Made your night. Yeah, made my day. There's also paranormal things that like. Most things in life, concert venues and theaters will get reputations for being haunted or having ghostly sightings, strange sounds. I'm trying to skim through here and see if any of them are...

They're all just, you know, seeing people kind of stuff. Seeing people. Seeing ghosts. This was cool. This I found and I didn't know about. And I would like to read it because it's very unique. it's very it's very creepy so this is titled this it's um so there's a band called mars volta you heard of them no you never heard of them okay so the the album called the bedlam in goliath was written in like they took experiences from they had they had a ouija board

that they brought around and would mess with. So let me read it. Okay. So guitarist and songwriter, Omar Rodriguez Lopez was on a trip through Jerusalem when he stumbled upon an old Ouija board at an antique shop. thinking it would make for a good present for his bandmate and vocalist Cedric Bixler Zavala. He purchased it. When the Mars Volta were touring with the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 2006, the band headed back to their tour bus where they would play with the Ouija board.

An event that quickly became something of a post-concert ritual, the band affectionately gave the board the name The Soothsayer. The board was said to tell stories, all of its own makings. as well as reveal names of characters to the band and make requests to them. Three spirit characters appeared to the band, all under the guise of a single entity, which they called Goliath.

As time went on with the band using the Soothsayer, more and more strange occurrences began to happen, particularly around the time they started to write and record what would become the fourth album, The Bedlam in Goliath. For starters, drummer Blake Fleming suddenly quit the group, citing financial difficulties. Then the lead singer, Bixer Zavala, required operation on his foot after his shoes had begun causing him severe pains.

I'd like to know more about that. And he needed to learn how to walk again. Oh, my God. In terms of the actual recording process, files consistently went missing from hard drives in the home studio of Rodriguez Lopez was mysteriously flooded. It was all beginning to sound like a biblical horror story. Shortly after the flood, an engineer for the new album quit, telling

Rodriguez Lopez, I'm not going to help you make this record. You're trying to do something very bad with this record. You're trying to make me crazy and you're trying to make people crazy. Oh my God.

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Lo mejor. Egglands Best. Mejor sabor, mejor nutrición, mejores huevos. After finding a new engineer, Rodriguez grabbed the soothsayer, the Ouija board, and broke it in half. He took the broken pieces and buried them in a remote location, hoping to break whatever curse it had cast in the band.

He asked the band to never talk of the board during the recording process and vowed never to reveal its location. What the soothsayer has told Mars Volta over the previous months, though, worked its way onto several of the songs on their... Resultant, the Bedlam and Goliath album also featured were snippets of poems that came with the Ouija board when Rodriguez Lopez bought in Jerusalem in which a three-way relationship.

between a mother, father, and daughter is described, and each song provides a unique take on the relationship. The Mars Volta hoped that the Bethlehem and Goliath would free them from the soothsayer curse. It's said that there are traps for listeners in the songs on the album.

laid so as to reverse the fortunes of the band. To spook listeners even further, the final edition of the album contains a copy of the Curse Ouija board. However, it remains to be seen whether the curse was lifted or if it still haunts the band and their fans to this day.

interesting yeah they're fans i was like looking you know do my research and i went i stumbled upon this reddit post and people were talking about like all creepy things i saw this i'm like what this is crazy yeah i've heard of this band um there was another thing

Music Legends: Death, Deals, and Bats

Mars, Mars, Mars Volta. Yeah. You've probably heard they have a popular song. Um, so there's something I want to, another creepy thing I want to touch upon. I don't know if you ever heard of like, when people say like they sold their soul to the devil yeah so that's like like a rock wasn't that like a rock thing yes um well they made a movie about it like tenacious d and oh yeah and dave grohl was the devil in that oh yeah

So it's like a urban legend, I guess. Oh yeah, I forgot to say Foo Fighters. Yeah. Foo Fighters. Yeah. They're one of our faves. So it's like a known like... thing amongst like rock and blues so the one that i

had heard of and i remember like listening to like a joe rogan podcast and talking about it so there's this guy named robert johnson and he's one of the most like famous legends associated with selling its soul to the devil okay according to the story johnson yeah johnson went to a crossroads at midnight and made it

deal with the devil trading his soul for unparalleled guitar playing skills. This tale has contributed to the mystique surrounding his influential blues music. It's basically like... no one was playing the guitar the way he was at the time and you listen to it you're like oh but it but people assumed yeah but it was just magic black magic but it was just he was developing his own style and it was just because everyone was just very like you know

Well, do you remember? Straightforward and basic. Wasn't it back in the day that like rock music, when it first started, people thought it was like. Satanic. Yeah, satanic. And only Satanists listened to it. It was the devil's music. All right. I got two. Oh, God. This. Yeah. That was going to start cutting this down. I wasn't crazy. I wasn't. No, I know. I know what to talk about. I just put stuff here. So this one I wanted to talk about. This was interesting. So it's the.

have you ever heard of the 27 club? No. So, um, you're about to, the 27 club refers to a bunch of like mostly famous musicians and entertainers who died at the age of 27. Oh, wait. Yes, I have heard of this. Yeah. And a lot of it under tragic circumstances. It became very popular after Kurt Cobain died in 94. When people started connecting his like, oh, wow, he died at 27. So did Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix. And then more recently, Amy Winehouse also at 27.

weird so it's like this mysterious age of yeah when people all these musicians died um they have a theory which is just some nonsense but i thought it was kind of funny that Again, people that they all made a deal with the devil. Oh, God. To have this talent. To die at 27. And then in return, they would die at 27. But it's mostly just a coincidence. But have you ever heard of it before?

Pretty creepy, unique coincidence. Yeah, that is weird. And there's a bunch more musicians and other people throughout history that died at 27 who were famous. So it's very creepy. And one more thing I want to talk about. It's kind of silly, but I thought another popular thing. I'm sure you've heard of it. Ozzy Osbourne biting the bed off. I still don't understand. Off a bat. So do you know the story behind it?

No. Okay. Good. I don't think so. It was January 20th, 1982, during a show at Veterans Memorial Caseum in Des Moines, Iowa. There was around 5,000 fans in attendance, one of them being 17-year-old Mark Neal. At some point during the show, Neal tossed a bat onto the stage and it landed right at Ozzy's feet. A real bat? Ozzy, yes, real bat. Ozzy being...

Do I have it here? He got it to have it as a pet, but it died. Oh, so it was dead already. It was dead. Okay. I guess that makes it a little better.

So Ozzy, being the crazy guy that he is, he noticed it there. And assuming he thought it was fake, he picked it up and put it in his mouth. And he bit down on it. And he noticed, like, this is... really weird and he was said that he immediately then ozzy like talking about later said immediately he knew something was wrong he's like very wrong for the start his mouth was instantly full of like this warm gloopy liquid so blood and whatever

and the aftertaste he said was absolutely horrendous and he could feel it staining his teeth and running down his chin So it said he had been brought home from school by his younger brother two weeks before the concert with the intention of becoming a pet. It didn't live long. And the night of the concert, his friends thought it would be funny to bring it there.

give it to Ozzy. He was sealed in a plastic bag. He went. So after the show, Ozzy was rushed to the hospital where he got rabies shots. Oh my God. And we're growing up and hearing that and you're like, oh, Ozzy is crazy. And then there's video of him. I never knew that he didn't know. He didn't know. Yeah, I'd heard that, but I didn't know the exact story and what happened. I was just going to say, I was like, my immediate reaction would be like, am I going to die? Like, what is this?

like you know that became like his thing and like he would then recreate it and then in little nicky he did it yeah um Yeah. So those are some of the stories there. That's so gross. That'd be my stomach turn. A lot of just like ghost stories. There's a story about Kendrick Lamar, apparently.

That he insisted that the ghost of Tupac went to his mom's house while he was still living there at the age of 21. What? Yeah. He described his late night visitor as a silhouette of the 90s West Coast rapper.

Tupac was there a lot of people saying that they've seen Tupac or they think he's alive yeah not ghost so the one we were talking about before was led zeppelin and the song was stairway to heaven backwards oh yeah and it was so is this uh televangelist who uh like made it like oh they're all about satanic it was yeah

yeah we were talking about before just how like rock and heavy rock was like made out to be like devil and then they asked so jimmy page the guitarist of the band they're like this is a thing and he's like it's he basically said it's hard enough writing music it's hard enough writing the music one way around so he's like we didn't we didn't do yeah how would you it is pretty creepy how like clear

the it's funny you listen to it and like the beginning of it in reverse definitely is very clear and you can hear it sounds like intentional but then it kind of like starts to lose it's like yeah making sense but it's it's very creepy if you've never heard of it Just Google Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven and you can listen to it. Do you know what it says? I'll look it up. It's like, oh, here's to my sweet Satan and stuff like that. Led Zeppelin. Oh, God.

no way to heaven backwards uh what is so when it played backward it says oh here's to my sweet satan the one whose little path would make me sad whose power is Satan. It was just weird. Like it didn't really make sense. It didn't really. Interesting. Yeah. Whatever. But that's that. Yeah. That's that. That's.

Music's Emotional Influence on Driving

Some creepy stories surrounding music. Yeah, I think music is pretty creepy. It's pretty creepy how much it can affect us emotionally and strike up memories. I mean, I think it definitely can. Like if you listen to aggressive music all the time, you're you're not going to like come out of the car and be like, yeah, like for instance. Yeah. So I I had definitely have like road rage. Not bad anymore, but I.

It's not bad anymore. I get very infuriated with how bad people drive. So one of those tactics is to listen to calming chill. I listen to like chill radio on XM. Has it helped you? Helps to keep me calm. I definitely tend to drive faster when I have like Linkin Park or something. And there's definitely times where like you're listening and you're really in music and like you're kind of like in the zone more when you're driving. Yeah. I've noticed.

well I also say like if you listen to like Beethoven and stuff you're supposed to be able to I did that study yeah I was studying for the Wall Street stuff I listened to like a lot of oh yeah that's right I forgot you did a lot of classical that never really worked i tried but it was more so just that like i needed it to be quiet i couldn't yeah i um it helped keep me focused because my instead of like my mind wandering it felt like a buffer whereas like

If my mind would wander, like if I'm reading a book, my mind wanders. It's quiet. Like it's gone. I can't. That's why I don't like to read. But with this, when I'm studying and I had music, if my mind wanders, it like bounces back. I'll like hear the music and I'll like start getting in.

So it helped me. Yeah. What do you think of people who don't like music? Very weird. Definitely have like met people who like, and you're like, oh, what kind of music? I don't really listen to music much or I don't really have. It's like, really? What do you do?

People Who Dislike Music, Christian Rock

What do you do? I just don't. I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. I know like definitely you don't even want to listen to like I feel like it just like helps the mood. It helps amplify the mood you want. It's probably like if you're hanging out in the summer outside, you want to hear some like low key, happy, like upbeat music.

If you're having a rough day, you want to put on like maybe some music that's going to match, either make you feel better or just kind of match your mood and let you sulk. It's probably people come from like sheltered families and like they didn't listen to it, whether it was like religious reasons or just.

other they didn't i do remember i went to visit when i was in catholic school i went to like sleep over one of the girls houses and her mom was extremely strict and i remember being like oh what kind of music do you have and she had like I don't even know what it was. Biblical music? Yeah, like very like not. Christian rock. Maybe not. No, not Christian rock. Maybe just Christian music. Did you ever hear this? There's this theory and it's pretty crazy.

Who do you think is the most popular Christian rock band? I just learned Flyleaf was. I did not know that. You know who is? The Killers. They're a Christian rock band. Listen to all their music. Isn't Creed a Christian rock band too? They're not the most popular? Well, the Killers are probably... Everyone knows the Killers. They're a secret Christian rock band.

that's listen to their lyrics the i forget who exactly said it was some comedian i saw this clip of just if you want to check it out just google like i gotta look now killers christian rock band There's a couple Christian rock bands I really like that I had no idea. I don't think they're intentionally trying to be one. This is like a conspiracy theory thing. I didn't know. I just learned Flyleaf was one. I didn't know that.

I don't care either way. No. I still like their music. It was just very interesting. I remember hearing that and being like, whoa. And then he's saying the lyrics and you're like, oh, crap. Not oh, crap. Wait, is it because one of the lyrics is he looks a lot like Jesus?

Decreased Music Consumption & Appreciation

Isn't that one of the lyrics? Oh, he doesn't look a thing like Jesus. No, it's just a silly conspiracy theory. Yeah, people don't like music. It's very... very eye-opening and i get it like you know maybe in the reading books or other stuff learning like i don't consume any media yeah it is weird though i will say how like Especially now that we work from home, that my musical consumption has gone down. Yeah, because you usually do it in the car. Yeah, when you're in the car or commuting.

A lot lately I've been doing like podcasts. I want to be entertained. Well, if I'm a small amount of time. Yeah. If I'm like taking Dexter for a walk, I'd rather listen to a podcast and like learn something or whatever. Yeah. Entertained. And now it's. When I'm working out, I listen to it, but that's pretty much it. I do it when I'm working out. Sometimes when I'm driving, if I want to like amp myself up. Yep.

If I don't need to am myself up, then I'll do a podcast. But if I'm like about to go do something fun, I'll usually listen to music to like keep my energy up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Working out some car rides. And then when we're hanging out outside is like one of my favorite.

times to put it on yeah no for sure when we're in the summer it's almost maybe now that i don't listen to music as much or as frequent it makes me like appreciate it more i'll go back and like put the strokes on or whatever and it's like oh yeah

Gives me all those good feelings. Yeah. But yeah, let us know what your favorite music is. Yeah. Always curious, especially because I don't really know. I feel like an old person, but I don't really know any of the newer, besides the main people that are big. Yeah. You didn't even know Jack Harlow. Don't know who Jack Harlow is. Still don't know. And remember, everything is creepy.

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¡Para nada! No importa cómo los cocines, siempre están frescos y deliciosos. Además, tienen más vitaminas D y E y un 25% menos de grasas saturadas que los huevos comunes. ¿Por qué conformarse con menos cuando puedes tener lo mejor? Egglands Best. Mejor sabor, mejor nutrición, mejores huevos. Visita egglandsbest.com para obtener más información.

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