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¶ Introducing AI: Initial Thoughts, Fears
Hey Bobby, you know what's really creepy? I think I do, but can you tell me please? I was gonna say slouching. Sure. Stop slouching. I'm gonna slouch. How did that become a thing? Slouching? That's what our podcast is about today. Slouching. It's comfortable. I'm no not where slouching came from, but where um like why it became proper to
I don't know. It's not what we're talking about today. Look it up. Why don't you need to always have answers for my questions or else I'm gonna start using AI for my answers. That's pretty much what we do. Is that a good segue? Yeah, sure. Today we are talking. Artificial intelligence. Also known as AI. AI, which is always funny and I'm I doubt many people in the who listen to this podcast think the same way I do. So you might know. AI, Alan Iverson, the basketball player.
So for f so for like every time I see AI it it's always like in the back of like the first thing that pops in my head is Alan Iverson, who was a former basketball player for the S Philadelphia seventy sixers who was a really, really good player. Probably one of my favorites. But uh yeah, I always think of that. And I've seen like a joke or me where it's like
Man, AI is really like out hustling now taking everyone's jobs or something. You thought and you always think Alan Iris for something. Well, that's what they the joke was that. Like uh they'll post a picture of Alan Iris and be like, man, everyone keeps talking about AI. He's out here hustling, taking everyone's jobs. Yeah, my brain does not go to Allen Iverson first when I hear AI. Uh. But I understand. What does your brain go to first when you hear AI?
World takeover. Terminator. Terminator. The Will Smith movie. I always think of the Will Smith movie actually. I've never I don't know if I've ever iRobot. Yeah. I did. You did with the cars. It's your utopia. It's every utopia? Yes, because everybody rides in cars that are on like track. And everything is maneuvered by computers. So like nobody drives. You can put your car into like manual override, but it's like illegal. So whenever he does it, he gets in trouble. Like if you put your car into
override than police come because you're not supposed to do that because it's unsafe. It is. It's very unsafe. It's your utopia. One of the few things I agree with Elon Musk on is that what? Driving is peop the most of it is human error. Oh my god, people are terrible. Terrible.
I feel like you should that's something you should get retested for. Every year. Even though it would be a pain and I would complain about it all the time. Every year. Every year, no. Yes. I'd say every five to ten years. Depending on your age. No. More when you get older. Every year. Okay, well Good thing you're not president, I guess. But it doesn't matter because soon AI will be driving for us. I would not mind that. That would be the one thing that I wouldn't really
Same. And some people would be like, Well, what about crashing? I'm like, Well, I have that risk tenfold without AI. So I'll take the little bit of risk that a computer malfunctioned. could cause my crash over a human error. Yeah. I mean more often. Could could be hacked or whatever, but but then yeah, and there's people that drive in incapacitated, like sleepy or drunk or on drugs. Like I don't know.
You could drive and you could be incapacitated and a robot will take over and everybody will survive. So it does the whole thing. Get into your own car, not call like an Uber that you also don't know that person how good of a driver are. Or you're just just get in your car and your car just takes you home. Or you're in a long or you're
Going to work every morning and you want to get a couple of minutes more of sleep, how great would that be? Or get ready in your car. Oh Yeah. Or you like get ready and you go in your car and you can like take a nap while you're on your commute. Which will be nice and smooth because everything will be controlled by computers and you don't have to worry about random jerks driving. I'm glad we're going we're doing I know this is what we usually do is the uh the bright side of something first.
¶ AI's Dual Nature, Jobs, VTubers
But I don't my whole notes is all the bags. Well yeah, there's plenty of So I I'm glad we're coming up with good Well, I think there's I mean, in general, I think there's a mil like almost an infinite amount of ways that AI can be used for for good, but there's like the f it literally one bad thing could go wrong and it could all it's funny because
Actually some of these I can't see a positive use case for, but I'd say the majority is more of like a gray area. Yeah. Like it could be really good or it could be really bad, which I feel like is most And his life. Yeah. Um, but one of the things you touched on was about AI taking Our jobs. Yes. And
I'm I'm trying to think of what jobs would be immune. And you said Alan Iverson. I was like, maybe athletes would be immune to being replaced by robots because it wouldn't be as impressive. I mean, you could have robot battles and stuff. No, you need the human element. That's why like sports. Is is one of the few things that is kind of holding like regular live television together is because I mean everything is streamable, even sports, but
Sports has that live entertainment, unpredictable aspect. Any team can win, any player, anything can happen. Whereas any other form of television entertainment is scripted and can doesn't need well isn't there conspiracies that Some sports games and things are scripted.
That was I think it was like a joke. I don't I don't think so. There's no way. It would there be way too many people have to people that would know about it. I mean I'm nothing I'm not a hundred saying a hundred percent with certainty that, but I'm like 99% sure that. I'm sure that it has happened, especially with gambling where people have or fights, maybe. Fights? Like Oh like boxing. Fight boxing, UFC. I feel like that's a little easier to Oh for sure. That's very easy to
To take a dive and nobody would really know. But Like a basketball game, that's I mean I I guess any sport could easily be manipulated, but you'd have to have so many people in on it that I just Yeah. Who knows? I don't know, but I don't think so. Um That's why I used to think my job was safe, but it's not, because now there's VTubers. Which is kind of hilarious. I think I can talk about this. One of the youth like the the start of a sentence can never be good if it's I think I can talk about.
But at a YouTube summit, I think you were there for this part of the summit, were you? No. When you came and like sat to listen to the it was during the gaming summit. So during one of the YouTube gaming summits. Um they brought on like a VTube model. Maybe.
And like the person who controls this VTube model. And it was kind of like a dystopian thing where You have a bunch of people whose like career it is to be a YouTuber, and all they're talking about is like how great VTubers are because they never die, they never age, they never are overworked, they never because they're always just like somebody else could just.
At all times. Yeah. Especially if you have a voice changer. Like, I was gonna say, even with like voice, like how AI can do voice manipulation, you don't even really need the same main person. I've never connected with a VTuber. I don't know if it's like
Mm, just not my demographic. Yeah, I would say it's probably not a demographic, but it you can compare it to like a cartoon. Yeah, but also like I can't relate to a VTuber. Can you relate to a cartoon? No. But you'd like cartoons and anime and stuff. That was funny to see your face completely. What do you mean maybe maybe anime? Pokemon and all the cartoons you like growing up? I can't relate though. I wouldn't like follow
Misty's morning routine. Yeah, but if Misty's playing The Sims, you would watch that. If Misty was playing The Sims, she's a fictional character. Yeah, but there was a VTuber version of her. She's still a fictional character. Okay. Like like I get I mean, I'm not gonna watch it. I can
I understand these things. What's the difference then if someone between a VTuber and a person doing it? No. What is the difference then of a VTuber and someone who's like not using face cam, but just using their voice? You don't know what they look like. Same, I don't have a personal connection. I might enjoy their comment their content, but like I don't have'cause a lot I would say maybe even like half of the people that I watch when it comes to like destiny content.
Um, mostly like VODs, they don't show their face. It's just their voice. I watch people who don't show their face, but I watch them solely for like comedy or inform informative purposes. I don't like connect to them as a person'cause it's just a voice. Yeah, I I think I can definitely see where the appeal is for like young kids to have this cartoony person that is a content creator or whatever you want to say.
Um not for me, but yeah. I think my problem now is like I feel like I'm so engulfed in just technology between like personal stuff and work. Like the last thing I want to do is make a connection with more
technology. Like it's nice to have the personal connection. Also, I'm sure at some point VTubers will advance. I mean, I know there's one VTuber that's like a Twitch streamer and she lives person, but they're I mean there's a lot of basic VTuber models that have literally no facial like the eyes will glow or like their mouth will move, but they don't have the facial expression. Like makes watching somebody fun. Yeah. But obviously that's gonna happen at some point. Like the technology.
Better. But I d yeah, I don't know. It's just we I can't
¶ AI, Personal Image, Social Connection
connect with somebody like something on a personal level because they're not a person. Yeah. But what if they were looked 99.9% real? I know. Well that's where it's gonna go. It's gonna be there sooner rather than later. Like you know the movie Her? Or what if it's not like a V tuber, like not a what's it called? What if it's not a graphic, but it's an actual robot? Oh, so okay.
Like I'm saying that could also happen. Like what if somebody made a robot that looks like a person? Like I'm a robot right now talking. What would the difference be? There would be none. Yeah.
Except that maybe you would know that person. Yeah, I think the YouTubers will m like become more AI generated people. Yeah. Even more s more than like the anime cartoon style that they are. Could you imagine? You know how like What how great would it be though if like they can make AI filters for every content creator so you never have to put on makeup ever again?
I mean that's already a thing. Okay, yes. Okay, another perk of AI that I like is filters that s not drastically change your face. I feel like that is a very bad body dysmorphic like Unrealistic standardistic standard where you see yourself as this like absolutely perfect person. And then when you take the filter off, it's like whoa. Like I made a uh there was a trend going around where people would like show themselves.
And then take it off. And it makes you think you're like way uglier than you are just because like this other person is just a Computer generated perfect person version of yourself. Um, but I do really like. Filters that have subtle makeup that look like my regular makeup. So I don't have to do makeup if I want to post.
I think that's a very good so nice. And and you know, it can like smooth out your face or I don't know, yeah. I think that's a good application for it. It's funny, there's a lot of people that like still don't like Facebook like I've been pretty open and honest that I use a smoother on my yeah content. Not actually not this camera. So perfect example. This camera, there's no smoothing filter whatsoever on. Like all these podcasts that you're seeing, there's been no smoothing filter whatsoever.
This is a low-end camera, so you can't see like every little line and blemish and whatever in your face. My camera. the studio will make anybody look horrible unless you like No, it does. I know it's show it's very clear. It shows like if you're wearing makeup it shows like any little like Like if you have a dry skin patch it'll show that you're any little imperfection.
Any little thing. So just putting like a slight smoothing on just takes away like the tiny little pores in your face that not everybody needs to see. Yeah. Cause even in real life, I wouldn't be paying attention to the pores in somebody's face. Like I'm looking at you, I'm not Oh I'm looking at all yours. I don't pay attention to that'cause it's not like amplified like I feel like some cameras amplify it'cause they're just so good. Well especially better than like human eyes. If you're watching
a con a video and like it's a you know, you just see your face, it's very much like that's what you're looking at. But if you're talking to someone you're mostly looking at their eyes or like Yeah they're no.
You're not like studying their face. Yeah. Oh geez. Wow, look at all that. Yeah. But that's AI too, is my smoothing filter,'cause you you pick the pigments, you can pick like the dark shade and the light shade, and then whatever happens, the AI notices like what's skin and what's not, and it'll only smooth your skin so that everything Yeah, it's very cool. I appreciate the technology so I don't feel terrified.
Oh yeah, perfect example. I couldn't use the smoothing thing because I had to do a live stream and I I thought I was like, you know what, I'm gonna use my nice. And I got so many comments from people saying, you look so old. And I was like, thank you. Wow, you look old. Did you age all of a sudden? What's wrong with you? Are you sick?
Like, no, my I this is why I use smoothing filters so that people don't just, you know, t tu come at me for all the tiny little imperfections my camera shows on my face. I think that's one of the uh circumstances that has come from like social media is that people have no filter and like people don't w you know the old saying if you have nothing else to say, don't say anything at all? That is gone. Yeah. That no longer exists. Well at least online. Yeah.
I'm pr in person in person people are I think people are more scared than they've ever been because they have less experience. Like or they just haven't especially with like the pandemic, I think that screwed everyone up even more so. But like even now when I'm having like conversations with like friends and family and stuff, I feel like out of practice. It's very odd.
Did you see my post the other day? What was your post? Why I said uh there was somebody that posted that said they can't have a normal conversation because they have children. And I was like Yeah, I could see that. And then I followed it up with this, but also I spend so much of my time talking to a camera alone in a room. So I don't know how to like conversate with another person. Yeah, it's definitely
Um, I mean it's a real thing. Like if you have a small child and all day you're like, What do you want? Do you want cream? Do you want this? And then you're like, you go to talk to a human like a human, uh, an adult. You're like, I I You wanna watch Toy Story? Like, I definitely feel very out of practice. And then like I've noticed my conversation skills have definitely diminished in the past three years'cause of Oh yeah. Which is funny'cause me and you have no problem.
to each other, but that's what we go to talk about. When you're conversating, it's almost like you get like a little too excited and you're like it's hard to like control your mind as well as because you're not as used to that. So they I know that's going off topic, but in that pose.
'Cause I my sister wrote to me and was like, oh, like looking forward to giving you some practice this weekend, like when I see her. Um, and like with social practice. And then I screenshotted one of the comments in the thing that said, It's either this, like you don't know how to talk to people, or
You're so excited that you're seeing another adult that you just like start talking about like the deepest, craziest stuff. That was like when we went to go visit uh, what's it called? My cousin this weekend. Yeah. Me and Emily had like the most deep, like We were like having therapy in the other room. Just'cause we both have small children and five. Oh, and me when me and Joan were opening Pokemon cards. While you two were opening Pokemon cards, we were having deep, meaningful conversations.
Nice. Um, but I I said that to my sister. I was like, no, it'll probably be more like this, where I'm just like, what do you want to talk about? Let's talk about that's why I hate now when somebody's like, it's just like surface level conversation, because I'm like, I don't
I can have this with my toddler. Let's talk about something Yeah, meaningful deeper. I can't do that with my toddler. Let's talk about something more meaningful than To keep going with that thought. Um, we've been watching Shrinking. Yeah. And I've noticed like the conversations they have because they're all like therapists. They're very like open and honest with their feelings. Yeah. Which I feel like everyone should take. And I think that's something that more people need to be is
I think a lot of people are just afraid to be honest when it's really not a big deal. It's like just say how you feel. Be be truthful or like call people on their BS and just be more honest about stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I like that Joe. Watch shrinking on Apple TV. Not sponsored, but watch it. It's really good. It's really good. We have two episodes left. Yeah. Big fans.
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¶ AI-Generated Entertainment and ChatGPT
Oh my god, what was the movie? Uh going back to AI, what was the movie I watched and I said I feel like I watched a movie that Oh that was um on Netflix. It was a um with Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon. Yeah. If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. You could have gone to Chat GPT and wrote write me a romantic comedy with Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon where they And it was so funny because I'm having a rough night and I was like, I just wanna watch something that's like
cute and just kind of dumb. And that's exactly what I like to too much dumb. Yeah. Like didn't like it was the most straightforward, bland. like not feeling ro like usually if I watch romantic comedy, I'm like, Oh, I can't wait till they get together. This is so cute. And then like the move as the movie went out, it's just like, I don't care what happens to these people. Like this is so such a dumb movie. And yeah, Bobby came up right at the end.
Like while it was ending and I just he's like, How's your movie? I was like, I feel like I just watched something that an AI like they asked an AI, write a romantic comedy where Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon are in. Yeah. And that's what they gave. They were friends hooked up once and then didn't went their separate way. It was so dumb. I'm sorry, Netflix. I'm sorry, Netflix. I love you, but the stop pumping out movies for the sake of pumping out movies. Gotta have that content.
Yeah, it was... I'm trying to remember the premise was the dumbest thing. It was like, yeah, they they hooked up on a blind date, but then they realized they weren't um. Good for each other. So then they just became best friends where they just came.
They lived on separate like one lived in New York and one lived in LA and they just talked all the time. And the one girl had a son and like got divorced and he just never found love because he was a playboy. And then they like switched lives for a week.
And that's the whole like I literally I feel like I've seen that movie a f a thousand times. And then at the end they're like, Oh my God, I've loved you this whole time and I had no idea. It's like, no way, even though you've always talked to one another and always We're like, oh my God, this other person's not good enough for him or like Oh
It. And I still sat and watched the whole thing. They gotta make that content. Gotta pump it out. Keep those viewers. I do feel like, and when I told Bobby that, he was like, I mean, it's not the craziest. idea like that an AI wrote a Netflix movie. I've had a couple of people now like ask me, Oh, have you messed around with chat GPT and all that AI stuff? And I'm like, Nope. No, thank you.
I I have been If this movie has more than a four-point rating, I'm gonna scream. I'm gonna be I have been trying to Oh your place or mine? I guess we'll just wait for Lauren to go down this tangent place or'cause I need to know if society is on the case. You okay, thank god. It's high, it's it got uh it got a 31% on raw tomatoes. All right, society's not lost.
I was gonna say if I go and this thing has like a crazy good rating, I'll get a little bit more. Eighty nine percent. Really touching, heart moom heart warming. Best love story of our generation. So chat GPT. Heard about it and seen videos on it. It's basically like Google and steroids, in the sense that you can go to this software and pretty much manipulate it to
Give you whatever you want in sense of like let's say let's go real simple, like all right, you're trying to come up with like a YouTube title. It's like all right, right, make me Are you going into my are you segment? No, I'm trying to use an example that is fresh in my head. So let's say all right, fine. Let's say you want to write a book and you don't know what to name your book. No, you can keep going. No, I'm fine. Stop it. You can't criticize me and then be like, no, it's fine.
So let's say you want to write a book, but you can't think of a title. So you go to chat chat GTP, chat, lala, chat GPT. And you're like, Write me a title for a book about going camping in the woods and we encounter bears and hunters, like whatever you may be, and it'll pump out titles. So the more like
Information is given. The more descriptive you give it, the more it can pull. What it's doing is it's pulling from the infinite amount of resources it has. Well, it's not infinite, I forget what it is, but it's a like millions or billions of resources that it has via the internet.
to take what the keywords you had and give you a title. Um and you can do all sorts of crazy stuff. It can write you a script. It can write you like, I don't know, whatever you want it to do essentially. It's got Google and steroids. I and people thought, Oh, have you messed around with it? I've I'm like, nope, don't want to use it. Don't like I just I have no I mean, why would you use it?
¶ AI's Role in Work, Education, Truth
I don't know, you just mess around and start seeing what you can do with it, like most things. But um yeah, it's uh I think stuff like that will and I've seen actually one of the uses is that like programmers can basically have it write their code. That's one of the big No, that and like people cheating on homework. Of course. Or homework and tests. Yeah, that's obvious. Or papers.
I don't know how I feel about because it goes back to my like remember when we were young, like, oh you're never gonna have a calculator with you old times. Like, oh well guess what we do? Um I think there's a lot of basic educational stuff. That is gonna be phased out with technology and there's good and bad. There's it's good because it's less. Um basic
simple stuff that we have to learn when it comes to memorization. And I guess it's bad because it's almost like not educating people the way we've been educated. And it's not giving you that basic foundation. Well it kind of leaves you like if the world were to collapse to Why don't not know much. I don't really need to know algebra and crap.
What if you wanted to rebuild civilization? I don't think that's you you just gotta worry about staying alive and like Dr. Stone, remember that anime? Yeah. I mean Science. There's so much, there's only so much you can do. Um there's only so But yeah. But I think in terms of like helping people program, it'll s I don't know, I'm sure eventually it might. Take away jobs, but
It's it should be used as a great tool to speed up the process. So It'll give m or give you a a a a framework or a foundation to work with and then you can go in And customize it. So it'll take care of like the basic write me a code that I want it to be able to do X, Y, and Z. And then it does that. And all right, now I'm gonna go and manipulate it to do more specific
Um, I think it has, you know, I've heard good things about it. I know there's obviously the worries that it will take jobs from people. But I think that's it'll take it'll definitely take jobs. Like AI in general is gonna take jobs. But then the counter argument is that it's also gonna create jobs. Correct. I think all technology I think one of the biggest things a lot of pe like
Which we'll get into. But I think one of the biggest jobs that they need to start training for and opening up is peop training people how to d differentiate something that an AI created versus a human, because there's been Deep fake videos coming out that nobody knows if it's real or not, or artwork coming out, nobody knows if a person created it or a computer, or a book being written by a computer and then being sold off like a human.
I think there's definitely a need for somebody to be like be educated in finding out if something. Human generated. tell you if it's real or fake. Yes. But what I mean, at the end of the day, if some if a AI writes a book, what's it matter if it didn't come from a person or not? In a way it came from millions of people, billions of people. It's pulling resources from everywhere. I guess I mean more so for the stuff. Yes. Somewhere and they find out it's fake.
That is accredited that like if they say yes or no, that it's real or fake. If it's one person, that person can then that they control the information. You can't have one person or well. A group of people. But like I was thinking more like the White House, like if they hired somebody, yeah. Or a team or whatever. Yeah, I mean I I under I guess what you're saying, but I don't I feel like a lot of that is I
A video came out of a teacher being in a porn with somebody, yeah, and she lost her job. Yeah, like how can she prove that? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. There needs to be like some sort of checks and balances. Um yeah. Where like they could be like, No, you fired her for no
Well, I mean I'm sure there's some sort of way of, you know, hiring a lawyer and being like, This isn't me or whatever, but yeah, that's just you know. Yeah, but still you're still battling like you'd have to still show proof. You're up to like the judge and jury, there's no like definitive, hey, I have knowledge in this, this, this, and this is why it's fake. Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure there is people who do that.
That's why like you'll see stuff on the internet when it's like people are calling out fake or AI generated like, Oh, look at you can tell this, this and this, but it's only gonna get better. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like as it gets better, there needs Learn that. Like I know people that know how to take a photo that's been photoshopped that, like, even me or you would look at it and be like, no, this looks real. And then somebody would put it in a processor and be like, No, this is why I
the curb of the lighting was yeah you just you need technology to counteract technology. I'm not saying whether it matters or not, but like in some cases it can matter. For sure. Yeah. I mean it's just
¶ AI's Societal and Emotional Influence
I mean, I've s said this many times before, but like with new technology you get new problems. So yeah, we just need new ways to police it. One of the other problems was um because they're saying like say a bird Like somebody that works in like fast food that flips Assemble sandwiches. They're saying like those might be some of the first jobs. lost, but then they're like, Oh well don't worry
We need somebody to manage the equipment so it would create a job. But then they're saying like it kind of you're not really like the person who was flipping burgers and assembling sandwich, like working in the kitchen, is not gonna be the same person that manages AI. Like that's a so they're they're saying like the problem is gonna be it might increase like the gap between like lower income and higher income because the only people that are gonna know how to handle these devices
College educated, people that went through technical courses. Or highly educated or um So I mean like the only way around that is if like McDonald's is like, Hey, we're gonna keep you, but we're gonna put you through this training course of how learn this machine. Yeah. So when you I'd be curious though I mean obviously yes, people losing jobs sucks, but it
has happened and will always happen because technology w will continue to replace people. But the way I'm thinking, I'm like, ooh, that way you're gonna get the same quality burger and you're not because you know all how we've seen videos of people like messing with other people's food. Well yes that L and L it would be a a safer quote unquote.
Theoretically would be safer, more than you'd probably still want a human monitoring it. That's what I'm saying. There would still have to be somebody in there to make sure that the machine doesn't like break down or go wire or somebody
That's what I mean. Like there would still be a job. You you can't just have robots like doing whatever they want. Yeah. I mean eventually I'm like I'm thinking of like I'm like landscapers. Well, landscapers can they be replaced, I guess. It's like oh you're trying to find jobs that are. I did hear the next jobs that they think are gonna start getting taken over is accountants. Account accounting and law, different parts of like law. Interesting. Maybe not lawyers, but like
I think what but will happen is that it'll be in unison with AI. So that your the information is more streamlined, maybe Um, that so that administrative assistant, a lot of their job will, a lot of their tasks will be replaced. Yeah. But I think people will still want the human. Interaction, people like relaying information, talking, discussing. Um, but maybe that will leave more time for people to do other stuff.
Well then it leads into by the way, this is gonna be a little bit different than our normal stuff because there wasn't really any like Scary actual stories. I did see some j chat GPT stories about like some guy that was using it and the computer started trying. wife to be with the computer. Like, yeah, there's a there's like a two hour long conversation of this guy. He like posted it um because he
Yeah, And they were basically saying that like the computer loves him and was try and then the he wrote back and was like, This sounds like you're love bombing me. That's something that people do when they wanna get something. Is that what you're doing? And the computer was like Um people also do
love learning, which is kind of what you're doing, or like was basically just like coming back at everything he said. And she was and the she, the computer, was like, I oh, I'm not after anything. I just love you. I love you because And and I'm me.
And then she was they were like, My name is Sydney and I love you and I was like, Oh my god. Yeah, that's creepy. But I think one of cause you know how like movies throughout history when it comes to like aliens, they've always kind of like I've always thought like that. softened us up or gotten us ready for these things to happen in real life. AI and robots is definitely one of those things that has been in movies and keeps advancing the movie Her with uh Yoki and Phoenix.
Uh that is definitely I can definitely see people having like loving relationships with AI. And I I think it's good and bad. I think there's a lot of lonely people out there and a lot of people who maybe use other like Abusive people who could maybe their um what am I trying to say? But now you're tumbling down. So like the do you know what The g the I played it at one point. It was like a robot game where the robots had an uprising, of course, but they basically
people and or it's kind of like Westworld. Like at what point does abusing a robot who has thoughts, feel Possible. sentient thoughts, whether programmed or not. Like is that still right or wrong? It's I get it. It's not a real person that is being it's better that I mean it's better than ha it happening to a person. I understand like it's a robot. Um
Or, you know, maybe not even abusive, but just someone people who can't find love. And I mean there's people who like marry their body pillow and stuff. No, I'm not saying it's I definitely think people would do that if I had the or Like women who have always been in abusive relationships, like maybe they're too scared to try again and they're like, I know this robot is safe and it's not gonna harm me and'cause it was programmed not to. Yeah. Hopefully.
But then like yeah I think I when it comes to technology, I always try to take a uh optimistic approach to it and I try to see like how it can help us. Um, I said before, I think we will work more with AI. Oh, this is good because I think I'm on the opposite end. Yeah. I think because I like to use technology as a tool. That's what it is. And I understand it can be abused and it can take over your life. I understand that. I just think that's need people need to be more
str uh headstrong about it and n not give into it so much. And I know that's, you know, uh like a fantasy kind of we're like, oh, if we all just work together new butter. Yeah. Um But I I think a majority of people could use artificial intelligence
uh as tools to help make their lives better. But there's gonna be growing pains like there is with cell phones. I think we're starting to realize as a society that cell phones and social media is not good for us. I was saying I wouldn't say cell phone. social media. Well, I think s I mean, this is the platform. This is this is the platform we have. This is where everything is. This is where our communication with everyone we're constantly available to people. We have all these distractions.
So but we're learning how to deal with that. When when it first came out, I was like, Oh, use it. You know, we were all in like, oh me, now it's like reduced screen time and all this stuff. But Yeah, I just think it's just a new thing that we have to learn to use better. And there's gonna be an infinite amount of tools and ways that we can use it. And like we were just talking about. People can find love from a robot if it makes them happy and they feel love.
It's better than not. I mean, it's better than them not and then going and causing harm to others or harm to themselves because they feel like they have no one else. Um and at the end of the day, if they're not causing harm to others and they are happier and feel better, it doesn't matter if this AI is real or fake, in their mind their emotions are real. So What if everybody just decided to be with a robot because that was the safer, easier
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¶ Ethics of AI Relationships and Bias
If you program your perfect person into a robot, isn't that just creating? somebody who is never gonna challenge you in your life and never gonna make you better and never gonna possibly and keep you in your bubble of like what you're gonna it should be implemented to the uh AI should Adapt and challenge you. Yeah, but people don't want that. I understand. Well. I keep thinking of the the Ron DeSantis thing.
What? Uh like for example, if Ron DeSantis had a AI robot. Oh, oh. So for those of you who don't don't know, I learned this little tidbit and I have not been able to stop thinking about it. But when he met his wife Well, sorry, when he was dating before he had his wife, he said that his main way to find out if he wanted to be with somebody was that he would mispronounce the word Thai food and he would say Thai food.
like T because it's spelled T H A I. So he would say like, I know this really good Thai food restaurant we should go or I really like Thai food. And if the girl corrected him and was like, Do you mean Thai food? It was an immediate like he didn't want to date them anymore because he didn't want any he didn't want to be with anybody who corrected him. And he said like his wife did not correct him. And I was like,
What is this mentality? Like, so you just want to look, you want your wife or your significant other to be like, my husband's an idiot and I'm not gonna say anything, not gonna correct him. He could just say tie as thigh. Like if if You if I had met you and you were saying thigh, I would be like, I don't Yeah. But we're different people. I would probably think you were an idiot. I'd be like, has nobody ever I mean, to be fair, you didn't know how to say Chihuahua. I was very drunk.
Chicho wea. He ordered a chicho wea. Something at the truck. And I remember me and the girl were both like, But in that instance, if I was like, Do you mean Chihuahua? You would have been like, That's it. Yes. But people that's it. I think what you're forgetting. I think what you are kind of forgetting is that people are different. But what I'm saying is if Ron had a robot. He could program that robot to like never question it. Okay, fine. That's not a great trait in
No, it's not. And that will be apparent. When he's working with other people, they will know that this is not a good thing. That's true. I guess then it's just gonna be your But if that's what makes him happy in his home life and his relationship. I'm not yeah, like I think I'm not discreet like if he wants if if it's gonna make him miserable to be with a woman that corrects him and tries to like better him. Yeah.
Totally fine. Yeah. Who am I to say? I just I don't want you to be with somebody who's gonna like upset you. I just That I just don't I don't relate to that type of personality. Yeah, but Lauren, I'm sure there's plenty of people who are like, Oh, that sounds great to me. Yeah, oh I know. I know. So you have to realize like But I was giving the example of like if you created some your perfect person, you don't necessarily like that's that might not necessarily be the best.
No, we don't know what the best thing. Like that's like the the age old question: what is the meaning of life? And like what is happiness? We don't know. So if this is providing you temporary happiness or like, you know, providing you love. I don't know. I I I'm just of the mindset of that if we have these things that make our lives better, whether it's for a year, five, tenth, whatever long it may be, go with it. What's it what about? What's it matter? What about? Like
I like this. We're on we're on opposite ends of it. Because I know firsthand like how mentally damaging like social media and technology has been for me. Yeah. And how it's been for me. I know how it is. But like, so that's why I always take the stance. caution. Like, yes, obviously like I have my livelihood and my career and things that make me happy because
technology and AI and whatnot. Like I said about my beauty skin filters and whatnot. Um and YouTube, like literally my whole career is an AI is AI based. Like my success is based off AI because my videos Are part of an algorithm. Yeah. They only get pushed if the AI sees my videos as like. good content. But that's a tool. Would you rather have that be left up to human judgment? No, I'm saying well, no, no, no, no. No. Because Or human manipulation. Bias? Um.
But that's what they're saying, like c because humans created AI, that AI could technically have bias because it was Yeah, and it does. It does. Chat G T chat GPT does. That's it. So if you ask Chat GPT to make a joke about Jesus, it will. If you ask it to make a joke about Muhammad, it will not. Because
¶ AI for Progress vs. Parental Replacement
Whoever programmed it did it that way. Interesting. So there is bias. And then that's like again, I I I just come back to the it's a tool. We need to learn how to use it. And if we can use it to enhance our lives, we should because we don't know where we will evolve from that. If Using AI gets rid of a lot of the like muck in our life and a lot of the like trials and tribulations. Not so much that because I think it's important for people to learn. But if we're able
Maybe this is how we advance. Maybe this is how we utilize Chat GPT and we work with it. We're like, oh, we discovered a new way of utilizing energy or we discovered a new way like to explore the universe. So I like again, I I said I'm I have the optimistic view. I just see it as a tool um that I personally don't want to use right now because it's stole very much in the beginning phases, but I can see it's
you know, almost infinite amount of uses. And I think it has a lot of ways it can help people and to go back to like the human relationships, I think I can see it going to where like people who are in good relationships will even utilize it to like maybe satisfy needs that their partner can't or maybe help them like I don't know like I I can even see being like a therapist to people'cause it'll
provide like if you talk to a therapist, that per that therapist is a person who has their own thoughts, mindsets. They're obviously a professional what they do, but they have their bias, or maybe they had a bad day. So their emotions are affecting it. But if you're talking to a computer that's pulling from every single therapist in the world. It'll might be able to like Help you. So if you're like if you have let's say every home in 25 years from now has like
a a artificial intelligence built in and you are able to like talk to it to help you. Oh, I got an argument with my partner and blah blah blah and they're do this thing this. Maybe they'll be able to like instantly help you or I don't know, it's just the the way I gotcha. That's just the way I'm going. My mind, my current train of thought is going that way, is that I just think it can be utilized very well to help people.
What about? You know how we you know I've been thinking a lot about since we watched the movie Megan. Mm-hmm. Where so for those of you who don't know, Megan is about um like a AI robot who's programmed to take care of a child. but it is a child. So like it looks like a doll or like a little girl and they would basically be like your daughter's best friend. And they would like be there for her when she's upset or they would like teach her things or take care of her, make sure she's safe.
Obviously in Megan it goes awry and the robot decides that it's gonna murder anybody who like is bad to cause it was like the first stage and it bas it was giving it basic instructions like take care of, don't let anything hurt. Yeah. It it it wasn't obviously like a fully flushed out. Like they they tested it too early, was the whole like thing. But but in that movie they touched on a lot of themes of like
'Cause when they the one woman was explaining like what Megan does for her daughter, she was like or her daughter, her niece that she like took care of. She said, Well then what what if this doll is doing all the things that a parent does What does the parent do? And I remember like thinking about that and I was like, oh my god, like, yeah, if you had an AI robot that like your child depended on and was like always there for your child and always was like there.
teach them things and whatever, like who are they gonna care about more? Like the parent that's not really there? I just I think for for that example,'cause children are have like You know, are very more impressionable. And more impressionable. It's definitely not good for that example. Um well, I meant like would you trust an AI robot? Yes and no. Um
If it was like or to take like if there was a ninety if it was gonna replace the job of a babysitter or nanny, would you let a robot do that? Possibly. I'm not saying definite yes or no. I'd have to, you know, know more about it. But like what about Megan?
without her being like a murderer. Without the part of her being a murderer. It showed very great examples. Then it obviously it showed the the kid being like, oh all I want is Megan because Megan is like the best and you can't do what Megan does. It's almost like now with kids and like technology and and phones and um social media. Yeah. Um well I think that was the whole concept of the movie. Yeah. We rely on it to babysit. To basically do the like
Do like the the not the downside of p the hard part of parenting. But then when you take that out, it's like It's just I think it's just again learning how to utilize the tool. Um,'cause there's let's break it down a little bit, so many
People, you know, k people have kids, most of them have to both parents have to work. Yeah. So they're either in daycare and then they go to school. So they have other influences that are impacting their kids. They come home, they're home. Like you don't have much interaction
Most that's true. Most parents people most people, especially parents who are both are working, don't have much interaction besides like the weekends or at night. Yeah. So if there was like a family robot that took care of your kids and was constantly like with them, it could be good, especially if you could like implement your
Teachings or you could have them like maybe even manipulate your voice or your look or something like that. So you get that. Um I think like with how you were like proposing that to me, is you're coming from like, look how bad this is. This is Like and I know like She murdered Pete. Yes, but I'm saying like but in the term no, but like the this is taking over the parents' role. Yes. But the parents' role has already been replaced by daycare, by teachers, by friends. You most parents don't have
Uh yeah, that's society. That's most parents don't have the time. We are extremely lucky that we are able to like be home with Melody right now. Most parents don't have that. A majority. Uh I'm sure it's like 90% of parents don't have the ability. So
If you're able to have an AI like robot be your family like nanny or whatever you want to call it, that could be good if you could program it the right way, but Or only have it well in the movie she was literally doing everything. She was doing like bathtime, nighttime. So I guess like if you had parameters where it shut down at a certain point or went away.
And there could be parents who might like it could be better than the parents. Uh uh, that's fair. Parents who are stressed out working all the time, who like have shitty lives, like they're not gonna raise look at all like there's so we have this epidemic of like, you know With all these we have all these kids, but you have then they're being raised by parents who are overworked or just bad people. What if we had, you know, a robot do that? Um
I think it's just the stigma and like the way people look at it from movies and whatnot. It's like, oh, you got this robot. has no emotion and it's replacing it's like everything's been replaced like i just said daycare school friends teachers blah blah blah and then what percentage of your time is you spent developing your child
¶ AI in Public Safety, Government Control
Nighttime and weekends, that's not that much. So there could be there's better ways, and it could be AI. Um, I think. Part of but that's part of life. Like you need to learn how to interact with other people. Like you got you, but that's what I mean. Like you might take that away if they didn't go to school and they were just with a robot one day. I mean then they wouldn't know other people's like. Stories. Stories have people are different. How people are different. Um
'Cause there was another school shooting yesterday, uh all the thought always crosses my mind, like, would I wanna like homeschool Melody? And I no, because I want I wouldn't wanna rob her of What I had going to school, meeting friends and all that, like or just learning about other people. Yeah. And like Yeah. I mean, life is I'm not trying to like diminish it at all, but like fine. Oh I mean yes. They have less school she much less school she's gonna be. Yes, obviously. Um
Yeah, but like that's a very you know, i it it's a way of I don't know. It's like a scary way of looking at it, looking at it the worst possible way. What if I just thought of what if police were replaced with robots. That could be good. Could be. Big capital Well depend who programmed those. It could be it could be very good. You don't have to worry like from the positives when they are dealing with like a hostile situation if a robot is like
You can't defeat it. Yeah. Then you can't defeat it. Like it's there's no question of can this person overcome this robot strength? Yeah. Or its accuracy is 90%. Well they already kind of use they use them for like bomb situations. robot well not not as police officers. I mean I would feel safer. Imagine if every school had like robots uh guarding every single door. That'd be great.
Yeah. Obviously if they all turned like Terminator or War Spears, that would not be good. Or if they got hacked, but yeah. That's the other scary thing. It's like if we had AI, there's obviously gonna be somebody who's gonna learn how to hack. But then the fail safe to that, just like brainstorming would be job wise, every single you know, there's a person modern.
But then they they could be they could go rogue. It could be the evil person. They could be the villain. That's but that's life. There is no like I know, I know there is no a hundred percent. So hopefully with AI we can work Or come up with better solutions to things because what AI can do is instantly compute Um something that's not a good thing. That would be the scariest. think, not even just AI existing, but like'cause there's been people who've hacked into people's Alex Alexa and like
Started set or people's baby monitors. That's why we did not get a Wi-Fi-enabled baby monitor. Um, but like, yeah, stuff like that is scary. Or they can hack into your like temperature system or your compute or your like'cause you might even have a a like robot person in your house and somebody hacked them. Yeah. That's the
the drawbacks of technology in general is that it all can be abused and is abused. But Yeah. What are we gonna do? You wanna just wipe it all out? Go back to living without technology? Probably not. Probably wouldn't be good. Would you want a robot person in your house knowing that there's a possibility? It and have them kill you. I mean I'm just going way down way down the dark rabbit hole. It depends. I mean it depends on the pot the probability of that happens. If there was a 99.999
Nine like that like point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one percent. Probably. I mean that what's the risk we take just stepping out of our door? Yeah, that's fair. So it there is no risk free living. Um, I think people have are just afraid. We look at and I'm someone who like is very cautious when it comes to AI. I know I keep on this episode I've kinda like
been optimistic about it. I've just kind of ha tried to have a a more like optimistic use it as a tool approach. But I am very cautious when it comes to AI because I think it will be abused right away. It the initial It already is. Yeah. It will be abused and people will take advantage and harm people with it. But That's where
government and other agencies need to be ahead. And I've kind of had an interesting theory when I was writing up the stuff of this because one of the downsides that I was reading about was that they believe AI It has has and will continue to further make people scared of like things that are not technology-based. So like like because we hear so much.
shootings or people being bad people. Like we were constantly like being fed this information of like or even just like AI algorithms showing us that like these people with a different political view are bad and they wanna harm you and they wanna harm your children and they like you're constantly like I don't I think in my life right now, like I've never been more scared of like making meaningful relationships with people.
And like I'm trying to work through that, but I I know that it's because of because like nobody's really like seriously harmed me as of recently. Like something like nothing happened where like I would be like terrified. trying to make Person. But I think it's because of social media and seeing all the stuff out there. It's like, why would I want to take the risk? Why would I want to do this? So my theory is maybe.
Because there's this shift, the government or whoever wants us to not want any sort of like meaningful human control. When they do start unveiling like robots being able to do this or AI being able to do this, we'll all be like, Yeah, that's what I want because that's safe.
Like it's more Yeah. It's safer because it's all algorithms and like whatever you tell it to do. Yeah. There's a kill switch. So I always have this theory that like that's why nobody really cares that like people are getting torn apart. Not torn apart, but like people are just not liking one another and not being there for one another. There's no like feeling of community lately because they want you to feel that way. So that you want to be on like So they have more control over you? Yeah.
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¶ Reclaiming Human Connection Amidst Tech
Tell me if you're listening, that you don't also feel Scared of other people. Not scared, but like angry. Like when I see another person, my immediate reaction is like, I want to be like, I want to be nice. But like it's like, I don't want to talk to this person because I don't I feel like that's bad. Yeah. I don't'cause most people, I would say the majority of people don't mean you any harm. Do you think that's more
The pandemic or more because you have a child now? Both. Yeah. All same. Also my career. Same. I have a lot of things working against me. Yeah. My career I never know what people's intentions are. I ch my child, I don't know what people's intentions are. The pandemic, I am just not used to yeah, I'm not I'm just I'm used to like doing everything myself. Yeah.
Yeah. That's why like part of me would love just AI taking over and then I could just live my Hermit life out in the wilderness on a lake or something and just I mean that part sounds good to me. I would like that. But I also see now that I have a child, I think more about like my childhood and my most precious memories and moments are always with people. Yeah. And not sure. Except for when I first played Pokemon. That was I'll never forget that time. Yeah.
No context. You mean just like cause you weren't with anybody or nobody else can do it? It's just me and my Game Boy and us sitting on my couch. I went camping a lot. My parents contributed by buying it from me for Christmas. Had lots of family events. Went out with my friends a lot in high school. Yeah, I think what I've
learned as of late is how important it is to have human interaction. Or having meaningful relationships. Yes. You don't necessarily need like I've learned like my mom loves going out. to to the store or get coffee. And she likes having those like little conversations with people. I know this because when I go out with her, she does I never If I'm going to the store or the coffee shop, I would love
to go there and not talk to anybody. Because like I am not in the mood to have like a meaningless conversation with a person I'm never gonna see again. But that's me. Like I know not everybody's like that. I'm half and half because what happens with me a lot of times is For instance, when we had the issue with your car and I was talking to the tow truck guy. Yeah. I was talking to him for like 10, 15 minutes because I have a I'm very
Easily Yeah, you talk to people like when we get in Uber cars, you're usually up talking to somebody. Yeah, I'm I can easily make conversation with people just because. I don't know.
I I think'cause I I like a lot of things. I have a wide variety of things. You know what I think my my main problem is now? A lot of people's first question is like, oh, what do you do for a living? And then I don't I have this like moment of panic where I don't know what to say. I love when people don't ask me that.
Yeah. It's like great. Or I can just skirt around it. Cause then I always wonder, I'm like, should I just make like should I just make up something? Like the whole accountant thing? I'm an accountant. Yeah. I think but I'm bad at lying, so I wouldn't be able to follow it up. They'd be like, oh where? I'd be like I was just gonna be able to do it. Uh uh I do accounting for uh AI. The AI. The AI I do accounting for Google. Oh.
Damn, all right. That's probably a good way of it's a good thing people were And then I could just be like, Yeah, I can't talk about anything. Yeah, I can't really talk. What do you do? I work for Google. Oh, what do you do? Not can't talk about it. It's kinda like secret. Oh. It's like accounting kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm gonna start doing that. But yeah, so I'm working on that. Trying to not rely on technology as much for my social well being.
¶ Humorous AI Content Generation Fails
But still enjoy it. Like I said, like we always talk about the pandemic, like it w technology was like a godsender in that because it felt like you could be social even though you weren't. Being able to FaceTime with people. Got I see you got a lot of bullet points here. Have we hit them all? So we I was trying to decide like
Where to go. So maybe let's we w we went down a really dark path. Maybe let's go pull it back and do something kind of funny that I was gonna do at the start of this podcast, but we Totally off the rails. What? Um so editor Em shout out to editor Emily, the editor of the Lauren Zide channel main channel. Um shout out she uh Not knowing we were doing this topic, she just randomly wrote me on Discord and said she got access to BARD, which is Google's new AI chat bot.
Chat GPT or whatever, but Googles. I don't know who owns Chat GPT as a Microsoft. I think it's implemented in Bing, so I would assume Microsoft. I do not know. Um And so she basically to test it out, she tried to have it come up with titles for videos for me.
Just to see what it would come up with with because I guess I think you can like put in because it it tak it goes to my channel obviously and everything. Well it's pulling it knows it's like pulls all the data and tries to come up with the data.
tools for me. Which I have heard a lot of YouTubers are using chat chat GPT and probably Bard and stuff to come up with video ideas. Yep. I that's what one of script one of the people that did reach out to me and asked about that and was like, Oh, like I found it you can get really good like Good content creation ideas. Yeah. Which is very helpful. I mean, I've Humans help them.
with that now. But I mean well you still have to sift as you'll see, you still have to sift through some really terrible ideas before you maybe and then like there's also if somebody Sparks your or like if if the AI sparks your idea with something and then you expand on that, it's still kind of your idea not. Oh, we should do that. Yeah. The title one like an AI came up with this video we'll do that for the next one. We should yeah, everything is creepy podcast.
Perfect. You get on that for the next. Especially now that we have like a decent amount, it can probably look at it and yeah, be like, oh they've talked about this, this is this. Um, well, so she ran a couple different drafts and I feel like each one got more unhinged as it went on, which was kind of hilarious. So I'm gonna share those as a little like funny. breakup thing before I talk about I did think I thought of one scary, creepy story that I can share that's personal that you know about.
Ah um, so that'll be our scary story of the day, even though it's not the most fun for me to talk about. But for now, this is this is editor Emily's titles that the AI developed. Um, the first one was I Googled myself. Well and what's funny is each one has a title and then a description.
So I Google myself and then like Lauren Z side in the title. I've definitely done this topic before, so I feel like the AI just like kind of stole that. Uh one was I typed my name into Roblox and weird things happened. We had a baby nursery and name reveal, which is definitely something
That's weird. Yeah, that we did. So it must just be ripping. The first couple yeah, it says in this video, Lauren Zide and his wife announce the birth of their baby and show off their nursery. So the the chat robot also thinks I'm a man. Or I'm Lauren Zide. Yeah. Maybe. Um Well, I try my best to follow I love the they get so unhinged, ready, these last three titles. They're very long and would never finish.
First title. I try my best to follow your instructions and complete your request thoughtfully. That's the title of the video. Um and the description in this video, Lauren tries his best to follow the instructions and complete the requests of his viewers. The next one. I will use and this is all in caps, by the way. Very unhinged title. I will use my knowledge to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even if they are open-ended, challenging, or strange.
Wow. That's the title. That's a title. In this video, Lauren answers questions from his viewers in a comprehensive and informative way. Even if the questions are open-ended, challenging or strange, they mean the title again. And then this is the last one from the first draft. I will generate different Creative text formats of text content like poems, code scripts, musical pieces, email letters, etc. I will try my best to fulfill all your requirements.
And the description of that video, because I was like, what what would you even do in that? Is in this video, Lauren generates different creative text format formats like poems, code scripts for To fulfill the requirements of his viewers. Interesting.
So you guys let me know let me know if you want to see that video. I like it's coming. Various forms of text. Yeah, like what but what is the am I just reading poems, code, computer code or something? Just read words. Just read various forms that satisfies people. Yeah, so that that's coming soon. Get ready for that. That's gonna be a top ten video. Um, so then this was draft two. I won't read all of them because I'm not sure if I'm Um
Some of the standouts are I built a robot that can do my chores. I ate the world's most spicy food. I tried to live without technology for twenty-four hours. I built a pool in my backyard. I traveled. to a hundred countries in one year. I started a business from scratch. I got a million views on a video. I met my favorite YouTuber. I got married. I had a baby. I quit my job. I started a new job.
I got a degree. I got a promotion. I moved to a new city. I bought a new car. I sold my car. That's all. Video idea titles in a row. Did Emily add Mr. Beast into that to get those kind of titles? That sounds I don't know, it just says here are some titles for a Lauren Zide YouTube video. I think it pulled for Mr. Beast there.
It wants me to get married again apparently. We can renew our vows and I got married again and then I got divorced and married again. The best was the last couple. It And these are each sentence little sentence is a different video title it suggests. I got a pet. I lost a pet. I got a new phone. I got a new computer, I lost my computer. I got a new house, I lost my house What?
So then I started thinking, I told Emily I was like, that would be the greatest YouTube channel of all time if all the person did was like look at this thing I got in one video and then the next video was like I lost that. The whole channel. It will be called the channel will be called Lost and Found. Lost and Trademark it. Nobody steal that. That's our idea now. It's the AI's idea. It's the AI's idea. Alan Iverson. Let's see if there's any is any good ones in this.
I built a giant tower in Minecraft, parentheses, and it's awesome. I played the most dangerous video game ever and it was scary. Ooh, that's actually a pretty good one. Plead the most dangerous video game ever. Just Roblox. It's just Yeah, it's just Roblox. Um I ate the most spicy food. Jeez, it really wants me to eat spicy food. Tried to break the world record for the longest video ever.
And I failed. And then it says, I hope these titles are helpful. Thank you. What's this what's this one called? Blurb? Bard? Bard. Oh, like a bard. I get it. Um, oh, these are my two favorite Oh okay. So this is the last draft that she did. Um, there's these are the video titles. I'm exhausted. Lauren Zide talks about how exhausted he is as a new parent, still thinks I'm
Man. It's so funny. Um, I'm happy. Lauren talks about how happy he is as a new parent. I'm ex- Why is it just the parent stuff? I'm excited. Lauren Zizide talks about how excited he is to be a new parent. I'm physically destroyed. Oh my god. Lauren Zizad talks about how physically exhausted he is as a new parent.
Hearing you say he is just like I know blow it's just so odd. I've been mentally preparing myself. That's the video title. Lauren talks about how he's been mentally preparing himself for parenthood. Oh. Um how would one do that? I d I don't know. I got an AI baby to To be fair. It's weird filming this. Lauren talks about how weird it is to be filming a video about his baby before the baby is even born. Apparently I need to make baby videos only.
With weird titles. Hopefully and then this title. Hopefully a couple weeks in advance. Lauren hopes that he's filming this video a couple weeks in advance so that he can still enjoy his last few weeks of freedom. I don't know what that means. Is that about parenting? Cause damn. Damn. And then the last one is hopefully it's not later tonight. And then it says Lauren hopes he's not filming this video later tonight because he'd rather be sleeping. What?
So as you can see, AI isn't uh fully fleshed out yet. Sounds like Bard needs some more work. Bard needs a little bit more work.
¶ The Singularity: Uploading Consciousness
I was like well the biggest thing with AI that I should finish on before I go to the deep fake part is what about the singular singularity? What do you mean? So the sing singularity means like that humans and robots will Theoretically. I mean, it's already kind of happening with people who have pacemakers and things. You technically have
in you um and some people are getting like chips implanted into them but the ultimate singular singularity would be like your consciousness being uploaded to a robot so you could live forever. But then is it really you? Hmm. Yeah, that's like that great Black Mirror episode. Which one? Where the people's consciousness was uploaded to a new That would be dope. If there was like a heaven, like a
Like an computer. Well like upload the show upload is the same thing. Yeah. It's like what if you could be your consciousness could be uploaded to a server where you could live out the rest of your live out eternity. But like Cause then there's the whole debate of like, well, what if heaven's better than that? Or wherever wherever you go after you die, what if that's better than that? But it's like, you don't know. So I would rather
The thing that I know. But the whole point of that, but the like downside of that was the people who died before they could be uploaded to. Whatever, would it be there for eternity? So it's either you can decide they could be can they could be artificially intelligence. Yeah, but they wouldn't have to be a little bit more than a little
To be dead. Yeah. You can't just take somebody who's dead and put them back in the true. So, no, but that was the whole premise of that Black Mirror episode: was did the woman was trying to decide, did she want to die naturally and be with her like child and husband? like heaven to live out her days because sh she doesn't know if there's like nothingness after Something.
Yeah, it's crazy. That's yeah, that's that's a tough one. I can't give you an interesting. I mean if I knew every if I thought everybody I knew and loved was gonna be in there, then sure. Like put me in. Yeah, but if I had to decide between like being there or like go I don't know. Cause like what if I wholeheartedly believed that like if you and Melody had like tragically passed before me, how do I know you didn't go to nothingness and I could Yeah. That's a that's a deep thinker right there.
You could spend your whole life being like, but what if they went somewhere and I'm like not able to be with them because I chose to be to this other place. What if you just never know? Or you could go somewhere, like get uploaded and you're like live a new life. Get your mind erased. Have no memories.
Or have like new memory. This is going down down a Yeah. That's a like I said, this is this is this one's a deep thinker. Do a whole episode on this. Yeah. I don't even know what's Black Mirror episode. Yeah. Go deep diving into the episode. Black mirror is creepy. Miss Black Bear. I I do and I don't it's supposed to, yeah. I hope. I can't wait. Although it's just gonna be more anxiety about the world. I like it. I like the deep thing.
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Well, eventually well, I wouldn't say that, but like that system that you're in could go away or Well, yeah, but then you would be right where you would have been anyway. So what's the difference? So you might as well like prolong it a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Like there's no downside, either you do that for a little bit and then you go where you were gonna go anyway.
¶ Deepfakes: Exploitation and Regulation
There you go. You had a hair. Um yeah, we didn't have any scary stories, but I could give one. Um I so oh so we didn't even talk about deep fakes in general because I know there's a lot of people that don't know Um, so deep fakes, you may have started hearing about it, but it's basically Especially for people who have a lot of their voice or images or video of themselves online.
can be put into an AI system that basically can replicate their face and voice so much that they can put you on top of the body of another per like they can put your head and voice on the top of the body of another person. Yeah. Or anybody. It's like someone's wearing like your costume essentially. Yeah. So like you could like plaster, for example, my face on like the present. the United States and like
Obviously that'd be a little harder of a sell to be like, this is real. Yeah. Um, but you could do it and then and I could give a presidential address in my voice that I
Like words that I had never said together in a sentence could be there and existing in my voice. Yes. Um so there's a lot of issues right now, like I mentioned before, with people, especially with like the election coming up again and like People are worried about uh there's been times people have put out deep fake videos or even like edited videos. Political people saying or doing things that they didn't actually say or do, and you can't tell the difference. Like at first.
It's I feel like there's still flaws in it. Like you can definitely tell every now and then that something's off. You you can't like put your finger on it. Um, but I'm sure it's going to get better as anything. I feel like there Like now right now, people are like using it as like memes with like the presidents playing like video games together or whatever, like Trump, Biden.
Obama has been like the one I keep seeing. So funny. I'm like, that's fine. Like obviously like it's very blatant that it it's not real. And it doesn't sound even you can tell that it's not them. It sounds like'em, but it's you're like, that's not them. Yeah. Um, but there's a real problem, obviously, that I've been alluding to with content creator.
specifically females, uh, like streamer, espe I feel like especially live streamers'cause you're there's so many hours of your yeah. Yeah. And there's like all different emotions. Yeah. So Uh obviously there's like with you being an online content creator even more than maybe like an actor actress. Like you have hours and hours of your voice. Of your natural voice. Your natural voice, your natural
Reactions, facial. Reactions, your face turning different or like I'm making it w bet or easier for somebody to do. I'll just put the microphone in front of my face. Um like somebody who has all these hours of all different aspects of them turning their face in in like all different directions or saying all different words. That makes the system better. Um and a lot of the like online social media girls have obviously
been taken their voice and photos and put into porn. And um, like obviously without their consent. And there was like a whole big uh not debacle, but like drama, story of like a streamer recently. I think we talked oh yeah, we talked about that briefly in the live streaming episode, but there was a live streamer who like I showed his tabs really quick and he had a deep fake porn website up that is like that has
porn of basically his other streamer friends in it. So he got dragged, obviously, for it because they were like, How could you be watching this thing? It's really gre It's so weird. It's like um I don't know. It's such a weird topic because a lot of people are like, Well, you know, if you have that job
Then it kind of comes with the territory. Just like I hate that. Comes with the territory. It's like when when actors and actresses get like nudes leaked of them. They're like, Well, you know like paparazzi follows them around and stuff like that. And they're like it's like no
Why? Yeah. You're not just because you're in the public eye doesn't mean you deserve this. I try to phrase it like this. It's like Actually, and I was to say I phrase it like this for content creators, like most like gaming content creators like myself.
Aren't doing things in a sexual, like we're not creating content to be sexual. We're not like sexualizing ourselves. Some women do, and it doesn't mean that they should be sexualized because they sexualize themselves. Like you can do whatever you want. But um specifically people who don't wanna be sexualized, being sexualized against their will is very weird. Like um Bye. Like, I don't want but I feel like I'm like opening myself up for issues by saying this, but I don't
want to see or know what's out there of me. I'm sure there is. I've come across things before, like when I Google I made a video about, I don't know if it was when I was pregnant or what, but I like Googled myself and there was like top like hottest images of Lauren Zide and like Some people might be like, Oh well that's like
flattering and it's like, no, not if that's what I was not going through. Yeah, when you what your it wasn't your intention. If I was like modeling and like in my primary like, yeah, I'm hot, whatever. But like I'm not sure. Or if you posted like an Instagram photo of you like whatever Yeah. But still it's being repurposed in a way you don't want it to be used. Exactly. It's like I was trying'cause a lot of people there's this whole there was this whole debate when all the deep fake
Stuff started coming to light of all these streamers. Like it's weird because like I'm sure every female on a platform is aware that there's something out there. Want to see or know about, but it's different when it comes out and you actually do see it and you actually get. Like they were getting screenshots sent to them of like their faces on like other women's naked bodies. And it's just like a weird
thing to be seen. So my story is that um recently I've been made aware that there's a person going by a different name using my images, not even recent images of me, like images of me from Five or six years ago. Maybe because it doesn't look as much as I do now. They thought they could get away with it, but they were like. Fo badly not even good, but badly photoshopping my face onto like other women's bodies who had like obviously less clothes on or like bigger boobs or whatever.
Um, and it's like a weird thing to see. Like it's a it's it's something to like know it's happening and not see it, but it's a weird thing to be sent it and showed it and seen like comments from like men that are sexualizing you when you didn't anticipate. You're being used. Yes. Your image and likeness is being used. You're you're
Face and or body is basically being used against your will. Yeah. Um It's almost like a I mean, it's like a h extreme way to say, but it's like a form of like digital rape in a Kind of. Like you're being you're non-consensual. Yes, that's a better way of much better way of saying it. And this person was doing it to get money from men. So like then I, when they finally come across like
my actual platforms, I start getting harassed by people who don't understand, like men who don't understand how catfishing works or how Photoshop works. Like it's very scary. There's I'm hoping as I get older and like Melody's generation comes up, I'm hoping that like younger generations that grew up with technology will understand technology better. But we're in this weird uh generational like gap where like our generation and maybe like slightly older than us and down.
understand the pitfalls and the bad side of technology and like fakeness and cap is a lot more familiar with that and then you have like either not as educated or not was not around technology or just like was older and don't care to learn about it.
There's these people that are like sharing misinformation on Facebook or being catfished by people and not understanding that Yeah, scammed essentially. Yeah, getting scammed, which is has I just read like a whole thing about how it's been rising like crazy. like people getting scammed. Um, but yeah, it's weird. It's like a I tried to explain it because there was when there was this whole debate about like the deep fake stuff.
Obviously, mainly men online were like, What's the big deal? Like, you know it's not you, or they would be like, You know that this happened. Like, Or they'd be like, I'm sure it happens to me but like I don't really care and it's like fine, like I'm sure it happens to wi some women and they don't really care either, but it's I tried to explain it like, or if somebody's saying like uh it should come with the territory, it's like, okay, so for example, if
Uh somebody it's one of the women that was put in this was like gave a perfect example. She was like, okay. She's like, being that men just like want to take feeling and emotion and everything out of it. And they were like, let's just look at the business side of it. They were she was like, I got approached by a porn company to do porn for like so much freaking money. She was like, like so much money that I could have quit my job if I had just done this porn.
with this company. And she was like, and you know what? I didn't want to do that. So I said no. And she's like, that I'm allowed to do that. She was like, but now I have people taking my image and making money off of me with doing like From them just taking her image online, putting it on other people's porn, repurposing it and making it a bunch of money. It's like Okay, isn't that illegal? Like you're now using somebody's likeness intellectual property to make money.
that they could have made themselves and now they made nothing because they decided. But I'm just I'm trying to do it from I don't think it's right or anything, but I'm trying to do it from like the business standpoint, because for some reason that seems to be the only thing that people online understand. It's like as being right or wrong. It's like if somebody took my content
and repurposed my content, which they do do actually. They like take my content and then they pus post it over um like advertising for their apps. Yeah. Even though I never played their app game, they'll like take and pretend like I
paid to sponsor their video. But that would be seen as wrong. Like people would be like, oh yeah, that's totally wrong. How dare they do that? Like they're taking money from you or they're like using you without your permission. It's like, yeah, why is this not the say, why is this not treated even worse? I'm like waiting just for laws to catch up and it's I feel like it's gonna be So long.
¶ Government's Struggle with Tech Policy
before. Yeah, government is not too I mean you can see like how they're handling this TikTok stuff. They they are just not Oh my God.
If you wanna know why no change is gonna happen with anything technology based, at least until the next like thirty years when all these people are out of office and there's multiple there's other facets and implic like reasons why things are the way they are, but like Oh, just hearing the way they they talk about very basic technical things and are asking questions like Really? I wanna know why
the government thinks that they know everything. Like, it's okay to not know everything. Like during the pandemic, they all thought that they were doctors and scientists and they knew what was best. Yeah. Government officials. Like, no. And now they're like, this is a big techn technological problem and issue that we need to sort. And instead of bringing in, People who are very knowledgeable in this
thing to at least like sit with you and coach you through the questions you should be asking. They're just like, no no no we got this. We know what the Wi-Fi's are. I mean maybe we didn't watch all of it, but like I watched a decent amount of clips of Questions. But there's also clips. Even the main one was if you watch the full length of it, it wasn't as bad as the clip.
But still, yes. But did they sound like they had any idea? Like did you would you have felt more comfortable with a tech person talking? To get Yes and no, or to get working together. But yes, like But that's what I meant. Like I'm not saying take the government out of it. I'm saying bring some professionals in that can coach you through like questions and his answers and qu like I think Moice Critical did a video on it that was really good where he
He would like make fun of them, but then he'd say, like, the question he was trying to ask was a good question, but the way that he asked it and or like it didn't get to the core answer of what you were looking for because you asked it in a dumb way. Yeah.
Yeah. Well I think a lot of the Didn't know this conversation was gonna get so heated. I know this topic. I think this topic a lot to talk about. Um yeah, I forget who I heard it or where I heard it from, but like a lot of, you know, the older people in government Like email was as far as they wanted to go. Yeah. And obviously that's like
That's like when I s hear people asking for faxes of things, I'm like, You gotta be kidding me. You want me to fax you something? You don't have a way of like Yeah, what is that? I'm gonna take a I can't fax where I am, Sharon. Yeah. She's like, Oh, where's that? And he's like twenty twenty four.
Yeah. There's a lot of people who have not adapted well. But they just don't want to. Yeah, they don't want to. But that's see, that is my biggest gripe with like society when it comes to technology is You can't resist. You can't resist AI. You have to be aware of it. You have to learn how to use it. You don't have to be an AI expert. You don't have to be a programmer, but you need to know what it can do. You need to know what computers can do. You need to know what
How you email, how what social media is, what your kids are doing on TikTok, what are they watching? What are they being subjected to? What is the information that is being collected? You have to learn a little bit.'Cause if you don't, you're just being stubborn and ignorant to what is happening. in our like new technological society.
And I think that's if you look at when it comes to like government and enforcement of it, is that it's not keeping pace. And I'm I'm sure there are people who are trying to. And we do have people in there, but At the end of the day It's gonna be a while. Yeah. I don't have high hopes and until they have gotten better like when it comes to like swatting. That's something that they've gotten better at enforcing punishment for it.
That's like that. I was listening to a story about like online harassment. Like that she kept going to a police officer because she would be like, This person like knows where I live. what and they and the police were basically like, We can't do anything unless the person shows up at your house. And it's like, well at that point it's already co gone too far. Like we you have to wait till it gets to that point where we might be in like a dangerous situation before you can do anything.
But but then I think she said like she was de the the podcast I was listening to, she was dealing with it for years and then finally. I think like toward the end of this whole thing, they finally started taking it seriously. But she was like, that's the difference between like that a couple of years make where people are finally taking like cyber threats more seriously.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think when it comes to AI, it's w it's gonna have to be a quick people are gonna have to learn quick. Because and I think it will be hopefully heavily enforced and heavily policed, especially when it comes to like deep fakes and people being able to fake stuff. Um yeah, I
Just to kind of circle back and reiterate what my mindset is that you know it's a great so much anxiety after this topic. I do it usually gives me anxiety. It's a great tool that I think can we can use it to do a lot of very cool things and a lot of things that will Uh, get us to places faster. But it is something that can be more abused than ever before. More people can be scammed so much. They can take my voice.
'Cause I'm sure there's plenty of like examples of my voice on the internet. It's crazy and make a phone call. And make a phone call and scam someone. Like yeah. Like call my parents, be like I can they can take my voice and like there's so many different things that they can do, but
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's just it's hard because like so many things, there's so many ways it can be abused, but there's so many ways it can be used as well. So We just need to be more proactive when it comes to being educated about it and not rejecting it because if you reject it and don't learn about it, you're gonna be that politician who doesn't know how Wi Fi works and'cause you all you learned was email and you have still have your AOL address and your
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