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ETA Insider Podcast

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A podcast series featuring all things related to search funds and entrepreneurship through acquisition. Hosted by Brian O'Connor, Adjunct Professor of Entrepreneurship at the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business and Managing Partner of NextGen Growth Partners.
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Episodes

AI, Seller Integrity, and Smarter ETA Deals

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, Sunil Grover, MBA ’99, joins the podcast to discuss his decades-long journey from investment banking and startup founder to ETA investor and advisor. Sunil is Managing Partner at Aavaran Capital, and a longtime supporter of Chicago Booth’s Polsky Center. From navigating a painful post-acquisition culture clash to identifying the red flags that separate a great deal from an expensive mistake, Sunil offers hard-won wisdom on what it truly takes to buy we...

May 29, 202633 min

Split Roles, Shared Vision: Making Partnerships Work in ETA

In this episode, Grant, MBA ’23, and Julia, MBA ’20, Hensel share how they’ve built a unique partnership—both personally and professionally—through ETA.. From meeting as undergraduates to pursuing separate but complementary paths at Chicago Booth, the couple now operates across investing and operating roles, with Julia leading two acquired businesses and Grant building an investment platform. They discuss how they divide responsibilities, leverage complementary strengths, and maintain alignment ...

Apr 24, 202632 min

Unpacking the Self-Funded ETA Experience

In this episode, Mark Hoffman, MBA ’91, owner of Larson Packaging Company, sits down to explore his decades-long journey as a self-funded business owner. Mark shares the realities of moving from consulting to entrepreneurship, describes the challenges and triumphs of growing a packaging company from the ground up, and reflects on the personal rewards, identity, and wealth that come from committing to a “boring” business over the long haul. Mark’s perspective offers actionable advice for anyone c...

Mar 27, 202624 min

Building Trust and Curiosity as an Operator

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, Matt Littell joins the podcast to discuss his early experiences managing union employees, his transition into small business acquisitions, and the importance of building trust and curiosity as an operator. Matt is Cofounder at Legacy 41 and Adjunct Lecturer in Entrepreneurship at Northwestern Kellogg School of Management. From practical skills to deep relationship-building, Matt outlines how new and seasoned ETA leaders can thrive, offering invaluable ...

Feb 27, 202630 min

Military Leadership Meets Small Business Ownership

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, Alex Panosian, MBA ’18, joins the podcast to discuss his path from the U.S. Army to ETA and operating small businesses. Alex reflects on how military leadership shaped his approach to ownership, discipline, and decision-making. He shares firsthand experiences operating acquired businesses, including the day-to-day reality of being both an owner and an operator, the “duality” of doing manual work while making strategic decisions, and what it looks like ...

Jan 30, 202624 min

From Diligence to Dashboards: How Finance Shapes Search Success

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, we are joined by Jake Bitz, Director of Client Accounting & Advisory Services and Consulting CFO at Boulay. Jake breaks down the accounting realities that searchers and newly minted CEOs face before and after acquiring a small business. He outlines the most common red flags uncovered during diligence, offers practical steps searchers can take early to avoid costly surprises, and explains how outsourced accounting models support operators as they sc...

Dec 02, 202526 min

Redefining ETA in the Public Markets

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, we sit down with JT Fitzgerald, CEO of Kingsway Financial Services—the only U.S. public company embracing the search fund model. JT traces his path from trading on the Chicago Board of Trade to acquiring his first company and ultimately building Kingsway Search Accelerator (KSX), a platform that partners with high-potential operators to acquire and grow small businesses. He explains how Kingsway’s permanent capital structure, tax advantages, and operat...

Oct 31, 202527 min

Hard Lessons, Resilience, and the Future of ETA

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, Jason Jackson shares his journey from first discovering ETA at the 2014 Booth-Kellogg Conference to navigating the highs and lows of running a search fund-backed business. He discusses the challenges of acquiring a dental support business in a competitive, PE-driven market—and the unexpected discovery of fraud just weeks into ownership. Jason reflects on how focusing on cash, communication, and culture helped him and his partner lead through crisis. He...

Sep 29, 202532 min

When Search Meets Real Life

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, we explore the unique intersection of family, career, and community within the world of ETA with Cat Littell, MBA ‘08. Cat shares her journey from launching her first venture during the 2008 financial crisis to building a career in investing, teaching, and supporting searchers alongside her husband. She discusses the challenges of balancing professional and personal life in ETA, the frameworks that helped her and Matt work together, and the lessons she...

Aug 29, 202532 min

Cracking the Code on a Non-Traditional ETA Journey

In this episode, we sit down with Jake Levine, MBA '19, CEO of ROBO, an Austin-based IT managed service provider. Jake shares his non-traditional path to ETA, reflecting on his journey from political campaigns to business school to acquiring and operating ROBO. He candidly discusses the challenges of search fund life, partnership dynamics post-acquisition, and the pivotal decision to pursue both organic and inorganic growth. Jake offers valuable insights for aspiring ETA operators, emphasizing t...

Jun 30, 202527 min

How a Recovering Attorney Built a Healthcare Empire

In this episode, we sit down with Keith Burns and his journey behind leaving a legal career and a promising path in finance to pursue ETA. Keith shares how a well-timed bonus and a trusted partnership with Michael Curry set him on a path to build and scale a healthcare services company. Keith breaks down their approach to capital, growth, and navigating multiple acquisitions and exits. He also reflects on the importance of aligned values, long-term thinking, and learning to “run toward pain” in ...

May 30, 202529 min

The Art of ETA and High-Quality Revenue

This month’s episode of the ETA Insider Podcast welcomes Christine Koval, founder of Next Haven Group. Christine shares her journey from successful start-up Chewy to search entrepreneurship. She reflects on the strategic reasons for the e-commerce success story, the lessons learned from emotionally driven consumer businesses, and why she now prioritizes revenue quality in service-based industries. Christine also discusses how the ETA landscape has shifted, emphasizing the importance of storytell...

Apr 25, 202529 min

Entrepreneurial Lessons of Grit, Growth, and Giving Back

In this episode of the ETA Insider podcast, we are joined by Michael Aubrey, Partner at Shore Search Partners. Michael shares his compelling entrepreneurial journey which has resulted in the creation of billions of dollars of equity value. The discussion begins with a heart-wrenching family story that ignited his entrepreneurial spirit, moves through his early days raising a search fund with his college classmate, and ultimately dives into scaling businesses in the medical products and veterinar...

Mar 28, 202529 min

Building ETA Boards and Deals

This month’s episode of the ETA Insider Podcast welcomes Anthony Walker, MBA ’14, an influential figure in the ETA investment space. Anthony brings a wealth of experience from his diverse career path, having started on Wall Street at Morgan Stanley, followed by roles at Lehman Brothers, Citadel, and Millennium. He now leads the efforts at Next Coast Legacy, focusing on investment strategies and working closely with management teams. Tune in to hear Anthony discuss his journey, the importance of ...

Feb 27, 202528 min

Peace Corps to Self Funded Search

In this month’s episode, we sit down with Mark Jackson, MBA ’11, Co-Founder of Centennial Investment Partners, and operator to several business he acquired through ETA. Mark talks about his journey into acquisition and lessons he's learned along the way. From transitioning out of investment banking to building a self-funded portfolio, Mark shares the challenges, strategies, and key insights that have shaped his approach to acquiring, growing and starting businesses. He also dives into the import...

Jan 31, 202531 min

The Power of a Business Thesis in Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, we speak with Brian Wolfe, who co-led a self-funded ETA search, which he and his partner sold to Alpine Investors, and who now teaches courses on private equity and ETA at Washington University in St. Louis and the University of North Carolina. They discuss Wolfe's transition from being a PE M&A attorney at a leading law firm, and Wolfe’s insights regarding the importance of a business thesis, the criteria for choosing acquisition targets and the e...

Dec 26, 202430 min

Balancing Business, Family, and ETA

In this month’s episode, Marcela Fernandez, founder of Olive Ridge Partners, discusses her journey into ETA alongside her husband, Andrew. Originally from Monterrey, Mexico, Marcela transitioned from biotech engineering and running a cidery to attending Stanford Graduate School of Business. The couple pursued ETA to stabilize their lives and quickly acquired Colorado Home Services, focusing on multi-trade residential services, achieving significant growth. They brought on a third partner to help...

Dec 03, 202428 min

Opportunity in ETA

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, host Brian O'Connor sits down with Gabe Barkley, former CEO of MHW. Gabe acquired and led MHW through an impressive growth trajectory in an ETA effort. They discuss Gabe’s journey into ETA, key factors that contributed to his success, and the operational learnings that shaped his tenure and eventual exit. Gabe also shares his future plans and insights for aspiring entrepreneurs in the ETA space.

Oct 25, 202434 min

Search Fund Lifecycle Unveiled: Navigating ETA with Boulay

In this episode of the ETA Insider Podcast, join host Brian O'Connor as he sits down with Ryan Turbes and Clay Brownlee, partners at Boulay, a Top 100 CPA firm and financial consultancy specializing in the lower middle market. They discuss how searchers and entrepreneurs considering ETA can work with firms like Boulay throughout their lifecycle. From early engagement to post-close services and beyond, Ryan and Clay provide valuable insights on navigating the accounting, tax, and finance needs in...

Sep 27, 202433 min

The Evolution of Search Funds

This month’s episode features Lacey Wismer, Founder and Managing Partner of Hunter Search Capital and Co-Founder of the Women's Search Network. In this episode, we explore her journey in the ETA landscape, with a spotlight on search funds. Lacey delves into her personal experiences, the evolution of the search fund model, and the impactful initiatives like the Women's Search Network that are driving diversity in the field. Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of the past, present, and f...

Aug 30, 202425 min

Realizing Growth and Vision through Transforming “Boutique” Accounting Firms

This month’s episode features Reyes Florez, MBA ’14, CEO and Founder of the Platform Accounting Group, a private equity-backed business services company. Discover the compelling journey from acquiring a small family-owned tax firm to leading a nationwide group of professional services firms. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the strategic approaches used for successful acquisitions and the importance of fostering relationships within the industry. Join us for an engaging conversation th...

Jul 26, 202437 min

Exploring ETA in New and Emerging Markets

This month’s episode features Rob LeBlanc, Co-Founder & Managing Partner at ambit partners. The discussion highlights the growing momentum of ETA in various countries and delves into fund deployment, geographic investment distribution, and the potential for ETA in major economies outside of North America. The conversation also underscores an optimistic perspective for ETA's expansion into new and emerging international markets, with an emphasis on establishing precedent and cultivating local...

Jul 01, 202439 min

Fostering Collaboration and Mentorship for Success

This month’s episode features Sara Rosenthal, partner at TTCER Partners and co-founder of the Women's Search Network, who shares her journey in the search fund ecosystem and her efforts to promote diversity and mentorship. Brian and Sara discuss the culture of search funds, fostering leadership qualities, evolving models in the industry, and the need for structured mentorship programs.

May 31, 202427 min

Finding Success in the Pacific Northwest: Acquiring a Franchise Business

This month’s episode features Chris Richling, MBA ’14, owner of a franchise business in Seattle. Chris shares his entrepreneurial journey from search fund pursuits to self-funded acquisition. He discusses the challenges faced, the transition to a management program, and ultimately acquiring a franchise. Chris reflects on lessons learned, emphasizing the importance of relationships, adaptability, and navigating personal dynamics in entrepreneurship. Released April 30, 2024

Apr 30, 202436 min

Live from the Harper Center: Acquiring for Long-Term

This month’s episode features a live recording from the Harper Center with Aizik Zimerman, MBA ’23, CEO of J Blanton Plumbing, a business he acquired during his second year at Booth. Unlike many ETA students focused on quick exits, Zimerman is dedicated to long-term growth, aiming to build the business into the nation's largest home services company. Influenced by his family's immigrant background and entrepreneurial success, Zimerman brings a wealth of experience from investment banking, privat...

Apr 01, 202448 min

Exploring the Future of ETA

This month’s episode features a discussion with AJ Wasserstein, Professor, Yale School of Management, on the rapidly changing world of search funds. They explore the normalization of search funds, demographic trends, and the evolution of search fund models. Delving into the investor landscape, they discuss the shift from individual to institutional investors and its impact on entrepreneur-investor relationships. Despite the influx of capital driving market growth, concerns about declining qualit...

Mar 04, 202440 min

From Wall Street to Main Street: A Journey in Industrial Entrepreneurship

This month’s episode features Peter Jackson, the owner and CEO of Miller Industrial, as he shares his remarkable journey from the world of Wall Street to becoming a key player in Main Street entrepreneurship. The discussion delves into Peter’s diverse career experiences, from corporate finance to his pivotal role at Groupon, leading up to the acquisition of Miller Industrial in 2018. Explore the challenges, triumphs, and lessons learned as Peter navigated the complexities of self-funding, search...

Jan 31, 202432 min

From Finance to Innovation: A CEO's Journey

This month’s episode of the ETA Insider Podcast features Marc Shiffman, MBA ’94, Former President & CEO of SMS Assist. In this episode, we explore the dynamic career journey of a finance professional who transitioned into the realm of innovation and leadership. Beginning in New York with McAndrews & Forbes owned and operated businesses, Marc played pivotal roles in iconic companies like Revlon, Coleman, and Sunbeam. The narrative takes a turn with a move to Chicago and a decade plus-long...

Jan 03, 202445 min

Decision Making Moments in ETA

This month’s episode of the ETA Insider Podcast features Manvendra Saxena, Founder and Chairman at Mars Energy Group. Manny discusses navigating the challenges of moving across continents to his experiences in corporate America and the startup world. Through this discussion, you learn the pivotal decision-making moments that led him to embrace ETA and why the sponsored model became a risk-mitigated path for his ambitions. Manny discusses the importance of confidence, emotional intelligence, and ...

Nov 30, 202338 min
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