¶ Welcome and Introduction
Welcome back to The Essential Astrocast. I am your host, Veronica Perretti, and this is the podcast you listen to when you want to know what's going on in the heavens, so that you can dictate your fate down here on Earth. Apologies if you hear some beeping in the background. I'm recording during the day, which I normally do not. I normally record at night because that's the most quiet time, So I recorded a really great podcast last week.
¶ Saturn's Influence and Recent Events
A lot of it having to do with Saturn. And then of course we were working with some Uranian energy. We had Sun conjunct Uranus a couple of weeks ago. You might have remembered when. The story about Joe Biden's cancer came out. That was, when the sun joined with Uranus. And then last, late last week, we had, mercury join with Uranus, and I had more unexpected things show up in my personal life. So everything is good. It's just, you know, it's hard to balance the whole householder.
Stay at home mom, still working thing. And I'm, I'm balancing it. I'm figuring it out. But all that said, I did record this long podcast for you mostly about Saturn last week. It was great, but it had a kind of down energy to it because I recorded it when Saturn was at 29 degrees Pisces. So one of the reasons I like recording the podcast. In real time and then editing and uploading it and getting it out right away is because I'm in the energy that you are in.
So it is really, helpful for me to do it that way. but of course that comes with the drawback of when life gets lifeing. The podcast doesn't go out, so I just didn't get it. edited and uploaded in time, and by the time it was ready to go, it felt stale. It felt kind of old and outdated because last week we had Saturn at 29 degrees Pisces, as I mentioned, which felt like we were standing at the threshold about to walk through the doorway.
So now we have walked through that doorway and the energy is quite different. And you might be experiencing this and noticing this yourself. So last week when we had that 29 degree Saturn at the end of Pisces, which we will see again because Saturn has injured Aries, it's very big news. Saturn has not been in Aries since the late nineties.
¶ Saturn in Aries: What It Means
We're gonna talk a lot about that today. But I just wanted to share first that you know that news about Joe Biden. We recently had the Pope pass away and the new Pope come in. A lot of the stories we're seeing, or that we were seeing the past few weeks, had Saturn at late degrees. Pisces written all over it because Saturn takes three years to go through a sign.
And so Saturn at the very end of Pisces, it's not just Saturn ending its time in Pisces or coming to an end in Pisces, but it's also coming to the end of an entire 30 year cycle because Pisces is the end of the Zodiac and Aries is the start of the zodiac. So we consider zero Aries. Zero Aries is when the sun hits zero Aries each year. That is the spring equinox. So that is the start. Saturn coming to zero.
Aries coming to what we consider a World Point is an incredible moment of initiation and a brand new 30 year cycle for the planet. Now, for those of you out there who were born with Saturn and Aries, you are now entering your Saturn return. And for those of you that have. A sun in Aries, like me or other planets in Aries, like the moon or Venus or Mars or whatever you have in Aries, Saturn coming to those planets is gonna be a very big deal.
And then for those of you who, maybe are Saturn and Pisces people, you are coming to the end of your Saturn return. So this is an exciting time. Saturn helps us really mark the chapters of our life. Saturn is a 30 year. Experience. every 30 years Saturn starts a new cycle. that's why the Saturn return occurs at 29 years old, and then you get another one in your late fifties.
they're very different flavors, but they're kind of the same thing in the sense that it brings us to a threshold and we step over that threshold into a new chapter of our life. And then every seven years we're getting Saturn transits. We're getting a square or an opposition or another square, or that Saturn return. So every seven years, Saturn is saying, Hey, just knocking on the door, what's going on? Are you following the rules? Are you honoring your karma and your dharma?
Are you doing your work in the world? What, how are you living? And are you taking responsibility for yourself? Are you taking responsibility for your purpose? What you're here to do, what you're here to contribute to humanity? Saturn is about responsibility. It is often a heavy burden. It can be. All the things that I consider adulting, you know, just being an adult and taking care of yourself and taking care of the things that you have to take care of. So Saturn is not necessarily fun times.
He's not Jupiter, but he's really important. He offers us the discipline and the structure and the boundaries that help us learn because how can you learn something if you don't have some sort of curriculum, if you don't have some sort of course, if you don't have someone teaching you, if you don't have some sort of system. I remember I had a teacher years ago who used to say creating a system is very hard, and one of the things that we're seeing collectively.
Is this drive to break down the systems that we have. And we're seeing that politically. We're seeing that with this administration we're seeing. The guts of so many of these systems because we just took for granted that they worked and those systems we took for granted that they supported us. Saturn is the systems and the things that support us, so Saturn is important and he's gonna be.
Rocking and Roland and Aries, and for those of us that were around in the nineties, you may remember what that felt like. And for those of you that weren't here in the nineties, this is your first experience of Saturn. And for those of you that have been around longer than that, you've seen Saturn and Aries a few times. But we'll get more into Saturn and Aries in
¶ New Moon in Gemini and Setting Intentions
a moment. I wanted to share that this week in particular. So I'm recording this on May 29th, but this week, starting with May 26th, we had a new moon in Gemini and that New Moon was completely unencumbered. There was no, challenging transits impacting that new moon. So this new Moon really feels like a fresh start. Especially because it's the first new moon that we're experiencing with Saturn newly in Aries.
So if you've not had a chance to do, some intention setting around this new moon, you can still take advantage of. This energy, you can still work with it this week. You can still set an intention. And on Tuesday I sent an email out with some journal prompts to help you do just that. So if you're on my email list, if you didn't see it, go check your inbox. There is an email with the journal prompts for the New Moon in Gemini, which occurred late Monday night Eastern time.
And for those of you in other parts of the state states, west of me. It was early Tuesday, the 27th, but we're still in the New Moon energy, so take advantage of that. Do some intention setting. Gemini, we are in Gemini season 'cause the sun and the moon met up in Gemini. Gemini is a sign that is about self-expression. It's about expressing our truth. It's about curiosity. Following our threads of curiosity, allowing ourself to follow the things that inspire us. It is sometimes a multitasker.
I think of it as the singer-songwriter archetype. You know, the woman who is singing the words that she wrote and she's playing the guitar at the same time. And that's because Gemini rules both the hands and the lungs. So I really like to use Gemini seasons since it's so associated with words. It's ruled by Mercury.
Mercury is the ruler of both Gemini and Virgo, Whenever we're working with Mercury, we're working with expressing ourselves, particularly through language, particularly through words.
So for me, I'm a journaler, so this is a time of year where I'm like, okay, I really have to make sure that I'm sitting down with my journal and getting my thoughts out because I know that getting my thoughts out, writing them out, it's going to be really helpful for me to get to my truth and also just to feel like I am expressing myself. Joan Zion, I'm going to. Butcher this quote, but it was something like, I don't know how I feel until I write it. And I often feel that way as well.
When I feel disconnected from myself, I know that I have to sit down with my journal and free write or just ask myself how do I feel and write about it because I don't know how I feel until I write about it sometimes. Now, mind you, I have a mercury ruled Moon. I have a moon in Virgo, so. That might be why that works for me. But Gemini season, we all are living under the, the beams of, of the sun being ruled by Mercury. So Mercury is also in Gemini right now.
Another reason that this New Moon was so nice is because Gemini is not only the place that is housing the sun at this time, but. Also Mercury the ruler of the sign. So it just feels extra Gemini ish. And we also have Jupiter there. And Jupiter is at the last late degrees of Gemini because Jupiter will be moving into cancer in June, on June 9th.
So I'm not gonna talk about that today, but that's a little teaser for you that one of the most exciting points of this year, of the astrology of this year. The astrology of this year is wild. It's crazy. All the planets are change. All the big time planets that take years to go through a sign are moving signs. So big astrology this year, it's a big year. As I said, we were waiting to cross over that threshold and we have now officially crossed over the threshold into this new era.
with that said, Jupiter moving to cancer is one of the really sweet, Transits of this year. So we'll talk more about that next week. But today I wanna talk mostly about Saturn. So I was thinking about the podcast and you know, rerecording this podcast, if you will.
¶ Personal Reflections on AI
And I was thinking my, I've been using the Spotify DJ function. So many of you probably have Spotify and are probably listening to this podcast on Spotify right now. I should say, if you're on Spotify, please rate and review the podcast. You can also leave me comments there. And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts on your iPhone, you can go and rate and review the podcast there. And I don't ask that enough. I should ask it more.
But that would be really helpful 'cause it helps new astrology enthusiasts find the show. So I've been using the Spotify DJ function, which is like an AI function and it basically, you know, aggregates a lot of songs that you like and then picks similar songs. So, of course I listen to a lot of like yoga music, you know, like Ton and that kind of stuff.
But I also listen to a lot of, obviously we have kids music on there for Jeremiah, but I listen to a lot of music that probably makes me seem like I'm a 15-year-old girl living in 2010. So I, keep getting the song Natasha Bedingfield unwritten when I use the DJ function on Spotify. And I think that's really funny. Because first of all, of course, it was the opening song from the Hills.
if those of you that are my age, remember The Hills, it was the show that came on that came after Laguna Beach and Early Reality tv, and Lauren Conrad and Heidi Montague and the whole thing. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, just ignore me. But the song was this. The opener to the hills, and you saw Lauren Conrad getting in the convertible and she's listening and you know, the song is playing. Feel the Rain on your skin. It's unwritten.
And she's driving down the Pacific Coast Highway in California and there's just this overwhelming feeling of freedom. that's kind of how this feels right now. If we allow ourselves, we could be feeling that energy of driving down the Pacific Coast Highway blasting Natasha batting field in the convertible, because we have all these new energies. Now, of course, we have. at that time when that show was on the air, we were living in a much more peaceful world.
We did not have the rise of authoritarianism here in the United States of America. We didn't have quite so many worries, at least not as young people living in the United States. but I know we have some listeners from outside the us. Majority of you are here and this is a different era. So while this could. B, how we're feeling. We're probably not feeling that way 'cause there's a lot of heavy stuff going on. The area's energy is a little bit like, I don't give a F, but I do what I want.
I look out for myself. So that's kind of like the unwritten driving down the highway in the convertible. But the other side of Aries is the fighter standing up for what's right. The underdog standing up for the underdog, standing up for the person that doesn't have the courage. And one of the things that I saw coming up the past few weeks that really was evocative of the astrology of this moment was Ms. Rachel.
¶ Advocating for Yourself and Others
So if you're not familiar with Ms. Rachel, you don't have a toddler, but my son loves Miss Rachel and she's a saint in our households, and she very vocally has been coming out. To speak up for the children of Gaza, and she's getting a lot of flack for it, but she's also getting a lot of people saying, miss Rachel has a stronger spine than anyone in the media, anyone in the Congress, any of these elected officials all over the world. And I thought that was really powerful. Rachel's chart.
To me, her speaking out at this time, even though she's been speaking out, but just not as prominently. She did a big interview with Medi Hassan last week Her coming out and speaking up. I was like, oh my goodness. This is Saturn and Aries. This is speaking up for those that have no voice, that cannot be heard right now. So we have an opportunity with Saturn and Aries and with Neptune and Aries to get in the convertible and say, I don't give a, or we have the opportunity to, stand up tall.
And with a strong back and a soft front with a open heart and firm convictions to speak up for those who maybe don't have voices that are being heard right now. So much to talk about today with Saturn and Aries. one of my favorite news stories that evokes this shift of this threshold that we've walked through, and I've already shared a few that I've been considering, but one of them was the Pope, of course, he passed away when Saturn was at Lee Pisces.
And now we have this new Pope Pope, Leo, of course, he took on the name Leo. And Leo is of course the fixed fire sign and. He is going to be having a broadcast, June 14th, which is the day of Donald's birthday. And Donald is having a big boy military parade in DC And of course, Pope Leo was like, I'm doing a mass in the afternoon and broadcasting it to the US and I'm assuming he'll be speaking in English. He speaks many languages. So that's another example of someone using their power.
maybe it's petty. But it's also really smart and it's strategic. And guess what? That's because Saturn and Neptune are in a trine to Pluto in Aquarius. One of the other things that we're seeing, we're seeing a lot of stories the past week about how AI is the, the drawbacks of AI and all the negative. Things about ai, and of course many of us knew that, but it's getting more attention, not only the environmental impacts one. AI AI search uses two bottles of water supposedly, but also.
How these, there was a story about, one of the platforms which I actually use, Claude for philanthropic, threatening to reveal someone's affair. 'cause the per it had was being used as an email, an AI email assistant. Oh my goodness. So crazy stuff happening with ai. We're seeing the. Results of our actions. We're seeing the consequences with Saturn because Saturn is all about showing us the consequences and showing us the way forward, the right way forward.
¶ Saturn and Aries: A Deeper Dive
Okay. Saturn and Aries, let's talk about it. Saturn moved into Aries on May 26th. And he will dip back into Pisces when he retrogrades. But for now, we're feeling the initiation. We're feeling that strike of the match because Aries is fire. It came out of the wet ocean of Pisces. It shook itself off. It got a towel. And it belied up to the bonfire to the fire. maybe it's the fire that's just getting started and it's trying to warm up and dry out.
we'll be working with this energy of Saturn and Aries from now until April 14th, 2028. this is a period of time where we will be working with stepping into our own authority. We will be working with, the themes of authority and authoritarianism. We will be working with, taking on responsibility directly, taking action on our responsibilities, taking action on the things that, perhaps our burdens so that we can change them. there's gonna be no more hiding from adulting.
There's no way to hide when Saturn's an Aries. It's gonna make all of us that have all of our, childish behaviors are gonna get kind of pointed out, whether it's from someone else or just within ourselves. Saturn is the elder. it's the wise elder of the zodiac. You know, you can think of it as like the grandparent. Archetype. and Aries is the youth. It's the first sign of the zodiac. It's the equivalence of the infant being born. So Aries has a vibe of.
naive optimism sometimes and idealism, because it's like the fool in the tarot. it has no idea that there's danger out there, so it just walks off the cliff. And that's not bad. It's just something to know, right? So Saturn coming into Aries, the places where we are naive, the places where we are maybe having some childish innocence, which is beautiful. We might lose that. Okay, so it is Saturn and Aries. It's resourceful, it's determined, it's filled with purpose.
So if there's something or someone that you want to speak up for, you're gonna feel that passion drive you. Saturn is a planet that likes to go it alone, and Aries is also a sign that likes to go it alone. So Aries wants to be the leader of the pack. It doesn't wanna be held back. It likes to be with other people as long as it's not feeling hemmed in or held back. Saturn like solitude. So. I am concerned about the Saturn Aries period amplifying the loneliness epidemic.
So really important during this time to ground into your community and the people that make you feel cared for and nurtured, because there's gonna be a feeling of, I can do it, I can take it all on. I don't need anyone's help. I can bear the weight of all the responsibility. But we know that that is not wise and not healthy. So there's a pioneering spirit on the other side of this, which is, you know, Aries is kind of like the cowboy of the Zodiac.
It's a little bit like there's something out there and I want to go see it, and I'm not scared and I can do it alone. So there's a pioneering spirit, but Saturn is pragmatic. So this can be a great combination. You can be. entrepreneurial or creative, and then also have the pragmatism to be like, okay, I need to take this step by step. I do this and then I do this, and then I do this. I don't rush till the end, which is something we as Aries like to do.
We like to rush into something and we don't necessarily do as well with the follow through as we do with the starting. But Saturn and Aries will really help us take the thing we started and bring it to the finish line. we're gonna get a lot of lessons and anger and frustration because Aries is associated with those feelings. We are going to probably experience a lot of fear of failure because Aries like to be successful at things and they like to do it with ease.
So if something doesn't come easily, we like to quit. I think that we're gonna have a fear of failure with this one because Saturn really likes us to see things through. So you might be like, Ooh, do I wanna start that? What if I can't finish it? you're gonna have to work through those feelings of fear of failure, and that's okay. Failure is how we learn. There's a combining of wisdom with passion with this energy because Saturn is the wisdom.
Aries brings the passion and the desire to initiate, planning with initiative is kind of how I'm thinking about this. So that's, those are some themes for Saturn and Aries. I think we're going to see a change of order. You know, we see a lot of older people in our elected officials. I think there's gonna be a lot more new, younger people coming up. I mean, hopefully they have to, right? but the other thing to keep in mind about Saturn being an Aries is that he is co-present with Neptune.
So while Saturn is a builder and wants to build things that last a long time, Neptune wants to erode things. He wants to dissolve things. So I think of Neptune. Neptune is the Lord of the ocean, right?
And I go to the Jersey Shore a lot in the summer, and I remember back when we had Hurricane Sandy years ago, The sand, the beach was actually eroded because the ocean was so powerful with the storm surge that it took away like half the sand on the beach and the beach is pretty big, and they had to import sand to fill it in. And for a very long time you could see the line where the imported sand. began and the native sand, ended.
So I think we're going to see this push pull of old ways, dissolving, old systems dissolving the things that we have relied on, perhaps dissolving, but new energy coming in. New ways of thinking, coming in, new systems, new responsibilities, new people in charge. So there's never, it's never black and white start and stop with astrology. These cycles, they overlay each other, they thread together like fabric being woven. So it's never, oh, we're doing this. So now it's this.
No, we're gonna see both these things. You're gonna see places where things that once were are no longer because of Neptune dissolving. And you're gonna see new systems and new communities and new ideas and new projects and businesses pop up. And that's kind of what we're seeing with ai, right? We're seeing like this new technology and we're also seeing it dissolve. Old jobs, we're seeing it take away people's jobs or we're starting to see that, or we will be seeing more of it.
but it's also creating jobs for people. So it'll be interesting to see how that all shakes out. And of course, we're part of it. And something I wanna say is that, I know I'm talking very big picture today, and sometimes when we go and we talk big picture like this and I bring in more of the collective stories that are playing out, it can feel a little overwhelming and it can feel like, oh my God, I have no control. But you and I, we chose to be born at this time.
We chose to be here on this planet at this time. Saturn is associated with dharma and it's our purpose, right? So one of my favorite astrologers, Ann Orley, she says, do your Saturn. So we have a purpose in being here at this time. We have a reason that we incarnated to be present on the planet at this moment. We've got work to do.
So whatever your purpose is, whether it is taking care of your children or doing your job, or just being a source of kindness and light in the world, as you move about your day, whatever your purpose is, showing up and living it is what you're meant to do. And of course, we can all do more, right? We all can take on. We can all look out there and see who needs help and speak up for them. That's the essence of Saturn and Aries, right?
But just know that, while it can feel like we don't have control in this moment, as I always say, you dictate your fate and we were meant to be here at this moment, so we have something to contribute to. This collective experience we're having, which is being human beings on the earth in 2025. what else did I wanna say
¶ Upcoming Astrological Events
today? I wanted to say that, Venus and Chiron will come together on Sunday, and that is gonna be an opportunity to heal some deep wounds and advocate for yourself because Venus and Chiron will be joining together. In the latter degrees of Aries.
So again, more Aries energy and Aries energy is always about advocating for yourself, standing up for yourself, standing up for the underdog, so you have an opportunity on Sunday perhaps to have a conversation with someone that you're in relationship with, A family member, a friend. A neighbor, whoever it is, maybe there's something going on and you need to advocate for yourself, then this might be a day that that conversation happens.
it could happen, you know, a few days before, a few days after. Again, astrology. It's not black and white. Sometimes we feel these energies a few days before, a few days after. we have that Mercury, cazimi, the Sun and Mercury joining together in Gemini on Friday the 30th.
So that is a day where we might experience some clarity and really take those, intentions and ideas from the New Moon and start To work with them a little bit because whenever we have a Mercury cazimi, whenever Mercury enters the heart of the sun and is purified by the sun, we have an aha moment of like, oh, it all is coming together. I understand it now. Or, oh, I see something that I wasn't seeing before, but now I see it.
Or, oh, I get a message, I get an email, I get a text, and now I understand what was happening. So. Look for moments of clarity on Friday and the days around there. Next week, we will have some nice aspects on Wednesday, Thursday. So June 4th, June 5th, we'll have Venus working with Jupiter, which is always lovely. Venus will be late degrees of Aries and Jupiter is still in Gemini at that time, late degrees of Gemini. When the benefics talk. It's always useful. It's always helpful.
And uh, Thursday the fifth we'll have Mercury connecting with Mars, and they are in Gemini and Leo. So both those sex tiles are occurring in air and fire, which means that it's gonna be amplifying and energizing wherever you feel passionate. So if there's something that's making you feel a sense of passion. If there's something that wants to be expressed, if there's something that you wanna take action on and you feel very strongly about it.
Those transits on June 4th and fifth are going to help you do that.
¶ Conclusion and Announcements
So I'm gonna leave it there for today. I talked a lot. I talked a lot of big picture stuff. Couple quick things before I go. I was going to be doing a Saturn and Aries workshop on June 1st. The last couple weeks have kind of thrown me for a turn with lots of twists and turns coming up, and things I had to manage thanks to Uranus. He really. Threw me for a loop. so I'm gonna be moving that Saturn workshop further back into June.
I'll announce when that's gonna be soon, but just make sure you're on the email list. If you're not, you can go to veronica peretti.com and you can sign up for the email list there. I will also be opening up some slots for. Readings over the summer because I know there's so much happening and people's lives are probably really amping up right now. And I know you must be like, what's going on? How is this impacting my chart? So. I'm gonna open up some readings, slots as well.
So just make sure you are on the email list so that you get the updates on all those things. And I will be back next week. I'm not sure what day I need to get back on a schedule over here, but I will be back next week and we will talk about Venus moving into Taurus, which will happen on June. Sixth and we will mostly be talking about Jupiter moving into cancer, which will happen on June 9th. So stay tuned for that.
And if you're still listening and you love the podcast, please send this podcast to a friend who might appreciate it. That is the best way to help us grow. And. Find more people who are interested in tuning into the cosmic energy. Okay, I will talk to you next week. Bye.
