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Les Garçons : Béla, 12 ans, a "glow up"

Apr 19, 202229 minSeason 3Ep. 7
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Summary

Découvrez Béla, un collégien de 12 ans qui navigue entre sa timidité et son désir d'être "bonhomme". Il partage ses réflexions sur son évolution personnelle, son style vestimentaire tout en noir, l'importance des mangas et des réseaux sociaux dans sa vie, et ses théories sur l'amitié et les premiers flirts, offrant un aperçu des masculinités de demain.

Episode description

Béla fait partie des garçons cools. Pas du genre à prendre toute la place, mais un peu détaché, mystérieux. C’est le nouveau portrait de cette troisième saison, Les Garçons.


« Je veux faire le bonhomme et tout, en mode : “Ouais, j’ai pas peur”, mais en réalité dans mon cerveau, j’ai peur. Et ce qui est bien c’est que mon cerveau, au lieu de faire des sursauts ou des trucs comme ça, il me lance juste des frissons. Comme ça, les gens ils voient pas que j’ai peur. »


Béla laisse pousser ses cheveux depuis la sixième, s’habille en « full noir » et se passionne pour les mangas. Récemment, il a « glow up », mais « genre un tout petit peu, genre un chouïa ». Pour lui, « glow up » c’est « gagner en maturité, en grandissant bien. » Il a toute une théorie sur la séduction au collège même si le couple, pour l’instant, ça l’intéresse pas… « C’est pas trop gratifiant, genre, je sais pas. »


Qu’est-ce que cela veut dire d’être un garçon en 2022 ?


Dans cette nouvelle saison de Entre, nous donnons la parole à dix garçons de milieux et de cadres de vie différents. Chaque épisode est une immersion dans leur quotidien et nous permet d’entrevoir quelles seront les masculinités de demain.


Cet épisode a été tourné et monté par Lena Friedrich. Il a été réalisé et mixé par Jean Thevenin. Maureen Wilson et Mélissa Bounoua sont à la production. La musique est de Sylvie Hoarau. L’illustration est de Lucie Barthe-Dejean.


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Transcript

Intro / Opening

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Béla, 12 ans : Son Univers et Sa Présentation

Louis. What does Bonhomme mean? The guy who doesn't fear. The guy who doesn't fear. And he's going. When I was a college, sage and emotive, J'étais très intimidée par les garçons cools du fond de la classe. Ils portaient des sacs à dos ispac noirs, gribouillés au Tipex et écoutaient Radiohead à fond dans leur Walkman. Yannick, Lucas et Alexis n'étaient pas rebelles.

just a little detached. He didn't talk a lot, what made him a bit of a mystery. A couple of years later, I met a garçon who is part of this same category. Bella has 12 years. He is a little reserved. This is not the start of the recreat, but it is indiscutable cool. The first time I saw it was in photo on the Instagram account of his mother.

And to her way to not smile for the photo, I immediately recognized this aura of the men who were discrets and sensibles who were intimidated at the college. Interviewing Bella, it's my chance to try to break the big mystery of the cool guys in the class. Sont-ils vraiment blasés ou juste un peu timides ? Se préoccupent-ils eux aussi du regard des autres ? Leur cool est-il naturel ou travaillé ? Et surtout, qu'est-ce que ça veut dire qu'être cool en 2022 ?

Les ados de la génération Gen Z, nés entre 1997 et 2012, comme Bella donc, ont grandi avec les réseaux sociaux. Je me demande comment TikTok, Instagram et Snapchat contribue à définir ce qui est perçu comme cool par les collégiens d'aujourd'hui. Je rencontre Bella chez son père. Nous asseyons, tous les deux sur son tatami. On entend le renvoiement de la machine à laver des voisins.

Je me demande qui est le plus intimidé des deux. Je suis Léna Friedrich et je vous propose d'écouter Bella pour ce nouvel épisode de la saison 3 de Entre les garçons. We are in the room of my father's room. There are floors, posters. On the floor there are books with figurines, a lamp there. Des dessins à moi, une base parce que c'est stylé. Devos au Star Wars. Un ballon de basket qui est dans le sac ici. Ma manga tech.

And the room is pretty, but in real... I think it's cool to have a small room. So it's style. I'm Bella. I'm 12 years old. J'adore dessiner, regarder des animés, lire des mangas, c'est ma passion. Tout ce qui est Japon, la culture japonaise, j'adore. Je fais bientôt 1m60 à peu près. My sport prefer to play basketball. And... I live in Paris, in the 10th district. I like all the culture, American rap, French rap, Korea, the South and Japan.

Asie, I like everything I like, apart from Russia. And since I have 3 years, my parents are separated. And here.

Style, Évolution et le Concept de "Glow Up"

And you're in which class? In the fifth grade. Can you describe me your style? How do you feel? How do you feel? How do you feel? In fact, I'm in black. In black, with jogging or even... The baggy, the jeans pretty thick. The O, I'm wearing sweat, black, classic. Since when you're wearing a black? For about a year. Do you have many friends who are all in noir? In any case, they have the majority of their vêtements in noir. But I'm wearing full noirs. I like it.

Why? Because it's my favorite color, and I think it's black clothes. Do you always have the hair long? No. In fact, I started to leave my hair since the 6th century. since the beginning of the 6th century. I wanted to push my feet because I saw a photo of myself when I was 8 years old. And I had my feet long and everything. I was so stylized, so I wanted to... I let my hair push like before. And so, well, here. Tell me about a photo of you a few years ago. I have one in CO2.

Wait, I'm here. Yeah, thank you. I was like that at 8 years old. I had really a head of kappa. What do you mean kappa? It's a yokai? It's a yokai, it's a kind of genou. But with a mouth like this. Like this. Like this. And I can even... I don't know... I don't know if I have a few years ago, because I have a little bit of a year. In fact, I saw them because they were a little gênant photos. Why are they gênant? Well... I was little, so when I was little, I was more gênant.

Well, I wasn't gênant, but I was a little gênant. In fact, having this photo, if someone sees it, it's a little bit of a malaise, so there are some I'll see. But there are some I'll see. What was gênant? How was it? It was two years ago. I had a drink or a bowl or something like that. I didn't really like it. I didn't find it very beautiful. And you changed a lot in two years? Not really, but I changed a little bit. I feel better in my physique than before.

Because before, I didn't put my shoes on it. So, I let them push. It's really the best solution for me. So, to cut them, it's not crazy. But if they're too long, I cut them a bit. So, I let them push. And yeah, in terms of taste and all that. Because before I was dressed in... with blue pants, yellow pants, and stuff like that. So it wasn't cool, it wasn't really cool.

Gestion de la Peur, Virilité et Influence des Réseaux

Depuis avril et tout ça je pense que j'ai glow up un peu. Ça veut dire quoi glow up ? Genre un tout petit peu, genre un chouïa. Bah en fait c'est gagner en maturité, en grandissant. Genre en grandissant bien genre. And do you feel more adult? Not more adult, but more mature. Yeah. Where do you feel more mature? In the brain, normal. What kind of films do you prefer? The genre of films that I prefer? The horror films, the action films I like. But especially horror films.

I would like to watch Shining even though my mother told me that I was too scared. Sometimes when I'm too scared, I put my eyes like this, even if it doesn't work. I put my hands like this. I put it like this and then I open it a little because I want to see. When you watch movies with your friends, do you put your hands on your eyes? No, because I want to be a good one. I'm not afraid, but in reality, in my brain, I'm afraid.

And what's nice is that my brain, instead of doing something like that, it just makes me feel like that. So people don't see that I'm afraid. It makes me feel like that. So people think that I'm insensitive, so it's a bit like a good thing, so it's cool. Would it be a shame to have a fear with your friends? No, because they also have a fear.

But you tell me that you need to be a good one. No, it's just me who want to be a good one. But why do you want to be a good one? Well, like that I don't have fear. Except that I'm afraid. So you want to seem to not have fear to impress your friends? Yeah. And do you think girls are afraid? The girls are afraid. In fact, my girls are not afraid. There are films of horror and everything.

Do you know what it means, virile? Yeah, it's like a good man, right? Yeah? Like a strong, strong, in fact, it's the rock. That's the best definition, it's Zurok. Yeah. And that's a model? What does it inspire you? In real life, I'm a little bit. It's just for impressing me, I don't know. But is that, for example, those guys who are not afraid of anything, who don't have their feelings, is it something that you admire or not? No, because in fact, you have to have feelings, not to be fixed.

And that's your phone? Yeah. Since when did you have a phone? First I had a 5 phone. And then I had an iPhone 7. And I had an iPhone 5 for 10 and a half years ago. Because my mother gave me it. And I had an iPhone 7 since... I'm on TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat. And I'm not sure Twitter and Facebook, because Facebook is a bit for the old ones, for the old ones. And Facebook is for the anniversaries, as we say. And Twitter, I don't know.

between Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok, what do you prefer? I spend more time on TikTok, but for speaking, I use Instagram and Snapchat. And the stories that I really like are the stories of drawing, editing, animation, such as people who edit well. They take a lot of... the passages of the manga, and they make a montage. So that's it. That's Zoro. That's Killer. So that was his fight, his fight against Killer and Zero at Wano. And TikTok, do you spend a lot of time on TikTok?

Yeah, in fact, I spent a lot of time, but there, less. In fact, I scroll and everything, but in this moment, I don't have a lot of content. And in addition, I'm Shadowban. What? Shadowbone. In general, I have no visibility on my videos. Would you like to have a lot of visibility? No, I'm a little bit, but go ahead. Would you like to like it or not? Yeah, it would be cool, but I don't care about it.

It's an edit that I made, but it's a little bit, so it's not crazy. But I got 1166 likes, so it's the video that was the most rentable. It's professional level, right? It's fine. It's fine. Bella, do you know...

La Passion des Mangas et les Liens d'Amitié

What do you like in the manga? Why do you think it's interesting? The stories are good, I love the drawings, it inspires me for what I would like to do later. It's Japanese, I love Japan. It's like a BD, but for me it's more interesting because there's more stories, things like that. Everyone likes the manga, so it's great. So I can talk to the community and make friends.

How do we become friends with the manga? Well, as we have the same interests, we can talk about manga and then we can easily become friends because we have the same kind. So it's cool. I made a lot of friends like that. Some friends that I didn't know, or that I didn't know. And we had the same passion as a friend of mine. We had to be friends, so it was cool. And how did you think you had the same passion? One day, we did a course of orientation and all that.

I was in the same group as her. We talked about manga, we talked about other things, about life, about family, etc. A little later... We changed the numbers. And so, here we go. Thanks to the manga, it gave you more confidence? No, not really. It gave you more discussion topics. This holiday season, connection with the kids we love is the best gift of all. Right now, kids on average are spending between five to nine hours a day on screens.

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And who are the most popular school in your school? It's my wife that I told you. She is really sociable. She is with the 3th, the 4th, the 5th. She can really train with everyone. And do you feel that for a few years, your friends with girls have changed? A little bit. A little bit. Because before I was more approached, I was a little timid, but it was a little improved. But after I was still a little timid, I had limits.

In fact, it's not only with the kids, it's also with people more than me, like the fourth and the third. I don't want to approach them too, even if there are, I'm becoming friends with them. And as I have a friend who is very introverted, I can make friends with him, without being timid, because we work together, and so it's cool. And he's really nice. To whom do you give yourself your confidence, your secrets? I don't like to reveal secrets.

So you don't give up your friends? When I was a girl, I was in love with my friends in elementary school. I don't really care about this kind of stuff. Maybe it will come, I don't know. But for example, if you have feelings for a girl, do you not speak to your partner? I don't have feelings for a girl. Do you think it's an event? Do you think it's an event? Or do you think it's an event? No, I tell them. But I trust them. They haven't told them. So... Do they give you their secret?

Yeah, but there are no more in this moment. But in the primaire, we have secrets, so that's why I trust them. Because there are some I know from the primaire. And even from the maternity. What were the secrets in primaire, for example? I don't know, we were a bit of a catfish. We were in love with everyone. So we gave them secrets. You were what? You were a catfish.

Sharo, it's someone who is amoureux of plenty of people. Is it Japanese? No, it's a Russian language. Yeah, so... So we're on a bunch of girls.

Les Codes de la Séduction au Collège

Now you're in the fifth grade. There's less crash. Yes, yes. Yes, towards me, towards my friends. No, not too much. Yes, there are. But not me, in any case. And not my friends. In the relationship of seduction, in general, are they boys or girls who do the first part? For me, it's the boys. Because... In fact, I don't know. because I don't know too much. But in any case, I know that most of the time, for me, it's the boys. So when there's a girl who likes it, they'll tell you, they'll tell you.

Yeah, they'll ask her snap or her number, to try to drag her a little bit, but at the same time, not to be friends with her. After, she's too friends, so it's almost impossible. But in any case, find a good way to drag her. But not drag her like you think. But drag her in the way that the girl loves her. How do you do it? I don't know. For me, it's just the boys who say, I love you first. To you, you've already said I love you?

It was a first year, but since college, I just told you that I have feelings for you. Like that, it's not really that I love you, but at the same time, it's a little... But not too much. I have just feelings. So if you want, it's fine. If you want, it's cool. And that was when? A little before the vacances of the day. And who was the girl? That was the girl that I told you about. She was sociable. Because in fact, I was a little crocheted on her. But now she's just friends.

But it was just like that, to test it. But she said, she said, I'd prefer that we're friends. And I didn't care about it, because it was just a little bit of a feeling. That's not a pain? No, I don't know. And friendzoner, that's something that happens often? Yeah, it's still frequent. And it's more the girls who friendzoned or it's more the men? Well, I've never had the opportunity to go to friendzone because I've almost never been in a couple even if sometimes...

during the holidays, in primary or in maternelle. In maternelle, I had 4 at the same time, so it's normal too. But it's the maternelle. The college is the most interesting. Because the first time you had to say to a woman that you go fast and that you could give her a bill. And then you won't win. So the college is more interesting. How did you go to college? I told you, you have to have...

You have to be a little friends, but not too much. You have to make sure that she likes you and things like that. And then you admit that it's either not, it's either yes. Or it's either I don't know. In your class, there are many people who are in a couple? No. For me, it doesn't work. For the moment, it doesn't work. It's just like that, but after all, it's very good that it won't work, so it will take a few months. For me, it's really useful for the moment.

For me it's not too gratifying, I don't know. Do you want to say in fifth grade? Yeah, for the moment. At what age do you think it's interesting to be in a couple? I don't know, after...

Regards sur l'Adolescence et le Projet Professionnel

I have 15-16 years. Do you have 15-16 years? No, I'm good. 13 years, it's cool. 13-12 years, for me it's good. 14 years old. What's the most difficult thing when a kid has 12 years old? The most difficult thing is to eat all his food at the restaurant, I don't know. And in your opinion, it's easier to be a girl or a girl? I don't know. For me, it's easier to be a girl. At 12 years I think. But...

To be a boy, I prefer it. Why is it more simple to be a girl? I don't know. I've never been a girl, so I can't know. Do you think that the girls are more mature than the boys? The boys are mature, but I think that the girls are perhaps more mature. At this age-là, especially when they pass their class before, but it's not a sign of maturity. In all cases, they are more large, the girls at this age-là. Since the college, they have been growing up in Thai.

Since the first year, I was quite small in college, in the sixth grade, the last two years. It was much bigger, almost like my size, so I didn't see what happened. So I thought, how did she grow up? Do you think it's what is most difficult for a girl at 12 years? There are some who want to be more beautiful than others. I don't know. Do you want to be adult? I don't know, I don't know.

Yes or not, yes. But as I'm going to spend my age, I'm going to spend my age behind me, but I don't care about it. And then I'm going to grow up, and when I'm adult... I will see photos of myself when I was 12 years old and things like that. And so that will make me nostalgic. And when I'm adult, I would like to do the dance and do the job that I would like.

For me, it's the most important thing. And you would like to do what kind of job? I would like to do a drawing. I know I would like to do a drawing, but I don't know what kind of job. It's not my gaga because it's complicated. You have to make your manga work to gain your life. But I really want to do something in the drawing because it's something that I like.

I like to play basketball, but I don't think about it. But for me, it's mostly drawing. And since when you've been drawing? Since I was little. When I was little, I was painting with my grandfather. So that's where I started to draw my drawing. And then, I drew a little bit from time to time. But since the sixth grade, a little bit. I started to draw a lot more, to improve, to evolve in the drawing. And you draw during the courses? Yeah.

In fact, during the courses, I draw at least every day. But it's just like that, because of the courses, it's really hard to draw. The other day, during the course, we studied a BD of... of Marjone, I don't know how to do it. So, at a moment, she cried on people. I was redesigned and I had to eat my math with the skin everywhere in the zombie. It was really good, there was the skin everywhere. The math? Yeah.

He hasn't seen it. The teacher wants to search the door. He speaks like that. That makes me laugh. I don't know what he has. In any case, he talks like this. I search the equation of x². What is the value of x²?

Remerciements et Crédits de l'Épisode

What's the most difficult in the interview? It's not very complicated. Well, it's still. No, but it's fine. Thank you. You just listened to an episode of The Girls, season 3 of Hand. I did interview and montage of this episode. Jean Thévenin has done the realisation. The music is of Sylvie O'Haraud and the illustration of Lucie Bardegen. Hand is a podcast in media. And this season was produced by Maureen Wilson and Melissa Bounoua.

This holiday season, connection with the kids we love is the best gift of all. Right now, kids on average are spending between five to nine hours a day on screens. And studies link heavy use to rising anxiety and depression, with social media being at the center of it all. That's why Gab makes kids-safe phones and watches. No internet, no social media. Just the right features for their age, with Gab's Tech & Steps approach.

For an exclusive holiday offer, visit gab.com slash getgab and use code getgab. That's G-A-B-B dot com slash get gab. Gab. Tech in steps. Independence for them. Peace of mind for you.

You know Hannah and I love a good bed rotting session, reality TV, snacks nearby, and now I've leveled up with my self-care game with this Shark Beauty Cryo Glow, the number one skincare facial device in the U.S. Wait, I'm obsessed with it. I've had it for... while actually and it's the only mask that combines high energy leds infrared and under eye cooling

I really need this because nothing wakes me up in the morning. You could do four treatments in one. Better aging, skin clearing, skin sustain, and my favorite, the under-eye revive with insta-chill cold tech. You put it on and it just... It feels so good under your eyes. Like, I actually feel like I got eight hours of sleep. It's truly like a luxury spa moment while you're literally horizontal. It's perfect for post-workout, Sunday scaries, or when you just want to glow while rotting.

So treat yourself to the number one LED beauty mask this holiday season. Go to SharkNinja.com and use promo code GigglySquad for 10% off your cryo glow. That's SharkNinja.com and use promo code GigglySquad for 10% off your cryo glow.

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