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Top “10” Fighting for Freedom Games: From Gods to Galactic Wars ep211

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Ever wondered what it’s like to stand up against gods, cartels, and imperial armies? Find out on "Entertain This," as Tom and Mitch dive into our top 10 “fighting for freedom" games that define the genre. We kick off with a blend of playful banter about the benefits of a two-host setup and a quick check-in on Hayden, before guiding you through our social media plugs and gearing up for an epic gaming discussion. From mythological showdowns in "God of War" to tactical military operations in "Delta Force Black Hawk Down," we explore the unique ways these games tackle the theme of liberation.

Journey with us through the adrenaline-filled terrains of "Ghost Recon Wildlands" and "Socom II: U.S. Navy SEALs," as we recount our most thrilling in-game moments and laugh about our long-distance sniping fails. Get ready to feel the intensity of World War II battlegrounds with "Call of Duty: World at War" and the "Battlefield" series, where gritty realism meets strategic gameplay. We also traverse the expansive universes of "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" and the "Halo" series, marveling at their compelling narratives and unforgettable characters.

In the final chapters, we take a nostalgic trip back to classics like "Dynasty Warriors" and "Assassin's Creed 3," celebrating their historical significance and immersive gameplay. Keep your ears peeled for some exciting news updates from Pixar, Marvel, and Netflix, including a tantalizing hint about Scarlett Johansson's role in a new "Jurassic World" trilogy. Whether you're a gaming enthusiast or an entertainment junkie, this episode is packed with passionate discussions and the latest scoops, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to get lost in the world of freedom-fighting games.

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Intro / Opening

Speaker 1

Are you ready , mitch ? I am Captain . I can't hear you . I was like I know I pressed it .

Speaker 2

Do the thing .

Speaker 1

Hello and welcome to Entertain this . It's a podcast about movies , tv shows and video games . My name's Tom , with me I got Mitch and you , the listener . Thank you for joining us today as we go through our top nine list of fighting for freedom games Games where you fight for some sort of freedom .

Now , I was a little diverse and wild on some of these , but I wanted to make sure these were ones that I played . But before we get into that , social media , mitch well , you can go to entertainthispodcastcom .

Speaker 2

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Our Instagram , which is entertainthis , or our YouTube and TikTok , which is entertainthis .

Speaker 1

I liked your . You went from Mitch to Mitchell . Yes , I know your NPR voice .

Speaker 2

Yes , well , when you have a cold , it helps . You have a little deeper voice .

Speaker 1

Yes , quite Indubitably Dude . So Hayden will be doing his Alan Rickman . Meh , meh , we miss you , hayden . Yeah , although it is nice not having to look over to my right , I can just look straight ahead .

Speaker 2

I don't have to turn my neck if it isn't a consolation , we did hear from him . We heard from him in voice mode in voice mode ? Yes , in voice mode , we heard him about things we can't discuss here , but we did hear from him .

Speaker 1

We did hear him . We know he's alive . We heard his voice .

Speaker 2

He's alive . I didn't hear bombs going off in the background .

Speaker 1

Or screaming .

Speaker 2

He seems okay .

Speaker 1

He sounded like he was okay .

Speaker 2

A little annoyed , but okay .

Speaker 1

Annoyed . He's very upset in his absence that this has now become the Tom and Mitch power hour and we're basically just running around doing whatever we want yeah . Talking about whatever we want .

Speaker 2

What can he do ?

Speaker 1

But we're having great analytics . Yes . That's the important thing , it's all about it .

Speaker 2

It doesn't matter how we're having great analytics or why , but we are .

Speaker 1

Let's not get bogged down on who did what . Let's not get bogged down on who did what , but let's talk about video games , where you have to fight for some sort of freedom .

Speaker 2

Now I'll preface this and say that I didn't choose games like call of duty , where you're literally fighting as a soldier I was I , I was good , I only picked one of them mine are a little more niche in the fighting front . I mean , some of them are like you're a soldier doing stuff , but it's different games .

I kind of avoided Call of Duty just because we talk about it so much . Anyways .

Speaker 1

I picked one Call of Duty .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 1

Just to give it its presence .

Speaker 2

Well , since I have 10 and you have 9 , I'm going to go first with my number 10 . I think you should . God of War , he's literally fighting for his freedom from the gods . Yeah , you know what ? That's kind of how I went with my list .

Speaker 1

I did keep this down , though for mine , these were games I have played .

Speaker 2

I've played God of War . I've played the original ones . I haven't played the newer ones . Hayden's played those but , like in the original ones , he becomes like a slave to the gods , essentially , and he has to fight for his freedom from them by killing them and taking their power . Yeah , he kills .

Speaker 1

Ares becomes the new god of war , gets betrayed and then decides all right , let me kill all of you then .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

And then systematically kills all the Greek gods and then ends up in Norway , runs afoul with the Norse gods and just goes like . I guess I'm coming out of retirement .

Speaker 2

You've got to kill them now .

Speaker 1

It's like I swear , I've heard this song before .

Speaker 2

But yeah , I mean for my number 10 , I'll pick God of War because he literally has to free himself from the gods and he kills all of them to keep them from subjugating all the other people as well . So that's a solid choice . So I said mine are a little more niche because they're not just straight up like wars and like that Most of them .

Speaker 1

I kind of kept mine like- .

Speaker 2

Well , I'd say they're not .

Speaker 1

Smaller scale , large scale , huge scale .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Okay , so my number nine is Delta Force Black Hawk Down .

Speaker 2

I've not played that Delta Force Black Hawk Down .

Speaker 1

I've never played that PlayStation 2 game about the Black Hawk Down movie .

Speaker 2

Game was awesome . Okay , yeah , tell me about it .

Speaker 1

I've never played that I mean there's a lot , it's more about the historical events of the invasion of Mogadishu or well , the invasion . Like you know , the UN responds into Somalia in the early 90s , in like 1993 .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 1

So I mean you start the game , you're a ranger , you go on a bunch of these missions you're doing really well , and then you get tabbed to go to Delta and then start doing cool stuff .

And then obviously , the last couple missions of the game is basically it's Black Hawk Down , Okay , so I mean , the scale of fighting for freedom is , you know , removing obviously the oppressive warlord regime that reigned over Somalia . Okay , I can't remember the guy's name , it's like Al-Farar or whatever .

Speaker 2

Sure , we'll go with that .

Speaker 1

It's been a while it's been a while since I've seen the movie or read about it , but that was one I picked Because it's a smaller scale fight for , I guess , freedom . You could say Okay , and honestly , it's a game I actually played and beat multiple times . Okay , because I just had so much fun with that game . It was on PlayStation 2 back in the day .

Speaker 2

I'll go for that . My number nine is Ghost Recon Wildlands , where you're fighting basically to repel the cartel , like I can't remember in Ghost Recon if you're I mean I know you're American military , but I can't remember if it's the whole mission .

Speaker 1

Like some like Sicario kind of deal , where you're like CIA kind of guys .

Speaker 2

Basically , you're trying to get rid of the cartel from controlling this land or whatever , but it's a game that it was a lot of fun to play .

uh me hayden , and one of our friends , booker , who's been on the podcast once , like the early like first year , but you know who , yeah but the three of us would play when we were all working together and we we would play missions and you know it's supposed to be like covert and we're just like crashing through the front gate Woo , stealth optional .

But I do remember there was one like what you do is basically take over different . It's almost like counties because the way they're broken up they look like a county based on a state map . But basically you take over different areas and you free them , but like , if you don't continue doing small missions in that area , it can be reinvented .

So you're kind of like expanding your territory so you're having to fight , break those territories free from the the oppressor of the cartel , which is kind of neat , cause once you beat I think once you beat the boss of that area it's it stays free unless you just completely ignore the area completely .

But I do remember there was a couple of times where we were just trying , we were seeing how far we could shoot . So we would go out to like the Salt Plains desert area and we were backing up and we would just like take a bad guy hostage because like you could actually grab them and hold them in front of you while you shoot .

Well , we would take one and we'd drive as far as we could away , get them out of the truck and then we would hold it there and one of us would be as far as we could see with the sniper rifle , lay it on top of another truck and we'd hold it there and see if we could hit him , because there was no friendly fire .

There was no friendly fire , so we would just hold him still , and we got to the point where he didn't register on the screen , even with the sniper scope , but the bullets would still hit . We'd be like all right , take a step to the left .

Speaker 1

Up 10 , left 5 .

Speaker 2

Yeah Well , pretty much like our guy . The guy holding him hostage would like two steps to the left , left and we'd shoot again .

Speaker 1

That sounds awesome .

Speaker 2

It was fun and it was kind of like GTA , where if you did so much , your star level would go up and the military would end up showing up . To try to come kill you Because you caused too much problems . Yeah , but then eventually , if you have the right guns , you can just fight off the military and take their stuff .

Speaker 1

It's like I want this now .

Speaker 2

This is mine well , they came in atlanta with a helicopter , like a whole bunch of swat dude looking things , so we killed all them and took the helicopter . But it's a fun game it's . It's just a big open world where you can go around and , you know , you change your guy to look like .

You can look like , you know , joe schmoe , the operator , or you could look like serious Rainbow Six operators , depending on what you want to wear . It was cool because you could completely customize your character and your guns and your attachments and all that . If Call of Duty would make that much customization for characters , that would be pretty cool .

Speaker 1

They're not going to . They want you to buy stuff .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I know that was a fun game . That was my number nine .

Speaker 1

My number eight is socom , two us navy seals and that was for playstation 2 , that was playstation . That was like one of their greatest hits games .

Speaker 2

That game was huge if I remember , that was one of the early like tactical multiplayer you could wear the headset . Yeah , tell them what to do . Yeah , that's pretty cool . My cousin had that . I never got

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to play it .

Speaker 1

I had it for a while and I remember I played it and I would do the first couple missions and then I'd get bored or I'd die . I was young when I was playing it , so I didn't really get it yet .

And I came back to it a year or two later , when I was a little older and I just started running through the game and I was like this keeps freaking good and I'm just like murking dudes . I got the m14 . I'll kid it out . I'm just popping corners , blowing dudes heads off and I'm like yeah america . High five america okay , I mean , it's your standard .

You know , as you know you're playing as , like , a seal team and you know you're obviously chasing after . You know uns people , unsavory characters who of course get their hands on plutonium as they do .

Speaker 2

And you've got to track them down

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.

Speaker 1

You've got to fight them . You've got to wipe out all the guards , recover stuff . It's like oh well , this happened too and you've got to go over there and go do that , and you've got to go over there . And then , oh , russia , russia , russia , and go do that , and you go over there , and then oh , russia , russia , Russia .

Speaker 2

It's like the guy from the Aliens Aliens Russia If it's a military game .

Speaker 1

Russia , russia . So then you got to go and fight . I mean , the combat system was really good , it was third person . You had a lot of fun . It was a lot of stuff . Like you had to be able to do with the D-pad as far as , like , coordinating the three other guys , okay , and you could switch into each one of them .

Like you could kit everybody and you could switch into guys , yeah , so like if you were playing as one dude and you went down , you could switch to the next guy and you can control them and move around , yeah , and then you can , you know , coordinate where guys need to go and what they need to do , okay . So it was a very elaborate game it .

Speaker 2

That's where you had the headset . You could tell them like , hey , yeah , this is like one of the first games that actually had that , that's pretty cool .

Speaker 1

I think it was the first one .

Speaker 2

As far as I know , I think it was . Yeah , At least you know , like I said , for PlayStation 2 and stuff like that , yeah , and it was a huge success game for PlayStation 2 at the time . Mm-hmm , that did it for that Chad . Well , my number eight Assassin's Creed 3 .

Speaker 1

I had that way up at number one , just because you know we're still in July in America .

Speaker 2

I wasn't sure if you'd have Assassin's Creed on there for these or not , but I just thought .

Speaker 1

Assassin's Creed . It's the American Revolution . It doesn't get more freedom than that for us , does it ?

Speaker 2

Assassin's Creed 3 , because you're literally fighting the Redcoats . You're just like running from bunker to bunker trying to avoid shots .

Speaker 1

You're just running from bunker to bunker trying to avoid shots . You're doing like the Patriot with your tomahawk and your knife or whatever .

Speaker 2

It's like Mel Gibson-ing your way through the whole game . But yeah , I mean that game is a lot of fun . I'll save it . We'll talk a little bit more when it gets to your turn . But yeah , I definitely had that on there .

Nice Just because it's Assassin's Creed which it's in the revolution , so it which it's in the revolution , so it's pretty cool Fighting redcoats in the woods .

Speaker 1

It was pretty fun , it was pretty awesome , like I remember the trailer . Yeah , he got to George Washington , uh-huh , and then , like they see it , like they're like they reverse and like they charge it , and then it's just like America .

Speaker 2

It's like America .

Speaker 1

Assassin's Creed it's just like yeah talk more about that one .

Speaker 2

Uh far cry five I've never played any of the far cry games .

Speaker 1

This is the first one I played , okay I saw the last one I played .

Speaker 2

So what is the ? What is the objective of far cry ? I've never played .

Speaker 1

I have no clue , because each one they're not . I don't think they're linear . Oh , this is , this is a . Each one is its own , it's like in its own episode of whatever .

So , like this is like in the midwest , there's like a town that's isolated or a county , like you're a deputy and they're like this , like cult guy is running the show now , okay , in this town . Then they're pretty much just cut off from like the rest of the world and he's like a messiah kind of guy .

Okay , he's got like his family who were like ones like producing drugs and like they're being conditioned , and the other ones like doing propaganda and it's all stuff .

So like the townspeople basically get slave to this dude , yeah , and like you know , full tilt with them , and then , like you become sort of enslaved , then you break it , but then they play like a song and then , like you just go rampage mode . You're just running through with a shotgun and a knife , just killing dudes left and right and it's .

It was pretty good , for like the first far cry game I ever played . I think it had good reviews , okay , as far as I remember .

And then I beat , like you have sections like that that are controlled by a family member and then obviously , as you progress through the game , you take a section , you fight somebody , you do a bunch of missions , meet all these NPCs , do a bunch of stuff , and then you control that part of territory .

So eventually it's the last guy like the main dude , that's kind of what wildlands was similar , yeah and there's like dual endings , there's like there's a third hidden ending where you can just choose to do nothing okay at the very beginning of the game like that , you just don't know that you can do . So there's a lot to it oh , and I was just thinking .

Speaker 2

I mean going back to wildlands . There is , they did have a dlc where you had to fight predator , that's scary like you're in the south america .

Speaker 1

that's not fighting for freedom , that's just fighting for your life .

Speaker 2

They had a game mode where you fought Predator . You had to track down these different clues they're different parts and then you have to venture into the jungle and you and the other three operators have to fight the invisible . He's invisible . You can see the outline and you've got to fight him . We never could beat him .

Speaker 1

Didn't we play that ?

Speaker 2

We might have .

Speaker 1

I can't remember if you played it or not , we played some Predator thing .

Speaker 2

You might have played with us . I can't remember if you did or not .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it sounds familiar .

Speaker 2

It was difficult , we never beat him .

Speaker 1

I think that was around the time when Hayden claimed me as a friend .

Speaker 2

He's like you , join us .

Speaker 1

You are now my friend . Here's your decoder rig .

Speaker 2

Anyways , continue on before I cry .

Speaker 1

I mean it's you know , fremont , I guess you know a small scale is like a county and you're just like a deputy , Okay , going through . But then there's like a lot of stuff going on , like where he's like prophesizing , like you know , apocalypse . So there's certain parts of the game where , like , missiles are going off .

Okay , like was this dude right the entire time ? Like did we F all this up ?

Speaker 2

Like there's a lot of interpretation and there's multiple endings for the game , but it was Depending on what you've done through it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't even think I beat it all the way . I think I got like 80% of the way through and then some other game came out that we wanted to play .

Speaker 2

Okay . Because I don't think you played Far Cry 5 .

Speaker 1

I .

Speaker 2

If Hayden was playing it too , it must have been him , I don't remember when it came out , like I said , I've never played any of the Far Cry games , so what's your next one ? My next one is Homefront Did you ever play that ?

Speaker 1

I didn't play Homefront , but I figured that would be on this list . Homefront , there's a game called Freedom Fighters . Yeah , I've never played .

Speaker 2

Freedom Fighters . I didn't look into that . It was basically like Red Dawn yeah .

Speaker 1

We're invaded by North Korea .

Speaker 2

They do some . I think they end up making it China in this one and basically the West I don't want to say it's the West Coast it's hit by an EMP and something happens and they're cut off to where they can't just have reinforcements past the Rockies or whatever .

So the West Coast is basically having to fight it out with China and you're fighting literally suburb to suburb , which was actually really cool . It was a fun game to play , but it was kind of open world . You had a path that you needed to go , but you could choose how to get there throughout the subdivision and all that kind of stuff .

So it was a fun game and , like I said , you weren't soldiers , you were people that just had had guns , you know , and you met up .

Speaker 1

On the West Coast .

Speaker 2

Well , you met up with other people that were soldiers and like they were , like happened to be home or whatever when it all went down , because basically it's like the US forces were just taken out by surprise and then it's all just like tough people that were still alive , going from house to house Tough people . I mean , that's just what it was .

Speaker 1

Hey , all them sissy people . It's like you're not you know when the push comes to shove .

Speaker 2

Well , like because the whole story , like they were talking and they're trying to figure out how to , you know , to fight a military force throughout the story , which is pretty cool and you know your guns aren't to the same level as the other , so you kind of have to be more tactical with what you're doing , because they've got fully automatic weapons and the only

way you can get one is by killing them and taking it yeah and then it had to multiplayer just like call of duty and all them have , which was actually pretty fun because it was all basically like you're in the middle of downtown on top of a Burger King fighting guys or you're in the suburbs .

Speaker 1

The ice cream machine's broken and you shoot somebody through the drive-thru window .

Speaker 2

Well , I mean , one of the maps was basically just a suburb subdivision and you're climbing on roofs , you're shooting through the second-story window out of this kid's bunk bedroom . You're just fighting back and forth , dang .

Speaker 1

I kind of wish I played that .

Speaker 2

It was interesting , it was fun because I mean it was it was like you're fighting on US soil , just back and forth . So it was a fun game . I enjoyed it . It didn't do very well , especially when it came out with the second one , because it basically just did the same stuff and didn't approve anything .

And it was like six years later and they just didn't change anything . So the franchise kind of died .

Speaker 1

But the first one was fun .

Speaker 2

I remember seeing like the first one and then it was just kind of like yeah , and then it was like alright , yeah , because the first one was on 360 and the second one was on Xbox One and they just pretty much didn't change anything , didn't upgrade graphics , nothing .

Speaker 1

Waste of dang money .

Speaker 2

Yeah , anyways , continue on .

Speaker 1

Call of Duty World at War .

Speaker 2

World at War .

Speaker 1

I understand that the World War II the ultimate fight for freedom , the fight against the Empire of Japan , and Nazi Germany yeah . And slugging it out with the Nazis and the Japanese .

Speaker 2

I understand that . That's kind of along the lines . I had Battlefield 1 and was it 5 ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , 5 was World War II . Battlefield 1 was World War I .

Speaker 2

Yeah , those two were my next . I put them both together , but those were my next ones , just because of the World War kind of front .

Speaker 1

I mean I picked World at War just because it it's Call of Duty's best World War II game .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Call of Duty 1 , 2 , 3 , call of Duty 2 , the Big Red 1 , all take place during World War II . You jump into Modern Warfare and then basically this game was Modern Warfare back into World War II .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Dudes' heads are getting blown off with shotguns . Dudes are getting lit on fire . It wasn't like the vanilla dude just gets shot , he just had the little pfft of white smoke and they just go , ah and eat it . It was getting real . There were some horror moments in that game , which is like the music , the tone .

Fighting your way through Stalingrad , you're just Molotov-ing , surrendering Germans , japanese are bonsai charging you through the grass and there's flamethrowers coming out of nowhere . You're just like , oh my god .

Speaker 2

And the reason I'll just go ahead and talk about mine at the same time because it's World War II . But the reason I chose Battlefield 1 and 5 was because with those games it is a lot more back and forth because of the way the Battlefield games are .

You have to push forward , for objectives to take forward , and the game will just keep going until somebody controls it .

Speaker 1

Well , they limit it , they cut the time limit .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but Because that was front lines was the game mode in Battlefield 1 .

Speaker 1

That game could last two hours yeah .

Speaker 2

But that's what I'm saying . The game does kind of push forwards and backwards depending on who's taking over what , but that's why I picked those games as well . For the next one , battlefield 1 was such a great game it was . It was a lot of fun .

Speaker 1

The campaign wasn't really anything . The campaign was like no , we're playing this for the multiplayer . Yeah , I've never played the campaign , even the multiplayer graphics still are beautiful . I'm like how come Call of Duty can't look that ?

Speaker 2

I feel like there was one gun that was .

Speaker 1

Oh , there was . Originally there was like the Hell Regal yeah SMG that had like a 60-round mag . That thing was off the chain when that game came out .

Speaker 2

But you could still get sniped one shot .

Speaker 1

I got really good at head-shotting dudes with those pump-action slug shotgun .

I remember like me , pez , garmin , mearholtz , like all of us would play and like I was the shotgun guy and Mearholtz was our medic , medic , medic , like he had more points than all of us combined , just rezzing us Like because we would all dogpile into an objective like flag and I'm just dropping dudes with a shotgun , garbage-shooting dudes .

Pez is running around screaming and he's just like I'm everywhere and screaming , and he's like they're everywhere and he's just getting lit up and then Muriel's just laying down like in a corner . He would see one of us go down and he'd just run and just that and throwing out medpacks .

Speaker 2

He's just eating medpacks .

Speaker 1

I think Arnold was like a heavy so he's just eating ammo . There'd be like a tank would come through and I was the assault guy so I had , so I just started eating all the grenades and it was like and like we're just like holding it down . It's like saving Private Ryan at the bridge and we would just be going nuts and we played that for hours .

It was so much fun .

Speaker 2

All right . Well , moving on from our , from Battlefield 1 , 5 , and then Call of Duty , World at War , what was your next one ?

Speaker 1

Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic , because you're fighting for freedom from the Sith Empire .

Speaker 2

Okay , Okay . Well then , I'll kind of include mine and we'll talk about it at the same time . I chose Star Wars Battlefront .

Speaker 1

I was thinking Battlefront .

Speaker 2

That was my next one on the list , so you know I went with Knights of the Republic .

Speaker 1

Just because it's more , I mean , it's a really good game , but there's also like it's a very big scope , and this is before battlefront .

Like this was kind of like you're going to multiple planets and like trying to stop the basically the sith from taking back over the galaxy , because they've already seized like half of it right so I mean it's a big fight , it's a galactic scale fight for freedom and I picked battlefront just because it it's you're fighting to liberate these planets .

Stay , Keep the Sith or the droids away depending on what's which Battlefront the new , new ones or the original two .

Speaker 2

I just said , star Wars , battlefront , the series

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I mean the newer ones feel more like Battlefield . But the old ones it was . I mean , it felt like you were fighting a planet because there was a lot more ships and stuff .

Speaker 1

I feel like in the old ones in the yeah , because the second one that was the best one , because you'd be fighting in space and if you flew with the planet , you landed on the planet , right , it like cut scenes , you like real quick into a transition , you were landing and then you could just get out and just start slugging it out , yeah , with droids or

storm troopers or rebels or whatever you wanted to do you're taking over the galaxy .

Speaker 2

You were liberating it , whatever you wanted to do , yeah that , that's what I remember that one playing , Was it PlayStation or Xbox , I had the first one I had on PlayStation 2 . Okay .

Speaker 1

I remember that was the first game I ever pre-ordered

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Okay , Because I mean that game was wild . I remember like the plan it's like do-do-do-do-do , brr , do-do-do-do-do , and then like the mission would start .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And then the second one . Like that campaign was really good because it was like the Stormtrooper narrations with , like , the guy who plays Jango Fett and the clones .

Speaker 2

Tamira Morrison . Yeah , he was like the narrator , okay .

Speaker 1

For , like the diaries , like the clones , as they're going through the Clone Wars , that's pretty cool . So that was really cool , and then the space battles were awesome .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I did like the transition where you could fight and you could fly up into space . Those were really cool . Nice little Republic . I don't know as much about that as I probably should , so why did you choose that one ?

Speaker 1

It's a galactic scale fight for freedom . This is the old Republic . This isn't the Empire who did seize the entire galaxy . This is the Sith who came out , came out of nowhere , like from deep space , okay , and basically just reconquisted their way through the galaxy . With Darth Revan and Darth Malak , okay .

And then you know , malak betrays Revan , thinks he kills him . The Jedi take Revan , who used to be a Jedi , mind wipe him and basically reteach him how to be a Jedi Knight . Mind wipe them and basically reteach them how to be a jedi knight .

and then you know , you go fight your way , because the whole the thing of the game is to find um the star forge which is like a dark force , you know energy mass production weapon that basically you just give it the materials and it consumes stars , or like a star for power and it just produces whatever you want on obnoxiously masculine Capital ships , whatever

you want . It's just like churning it out , like Ford turning up Model Ts . It's like I need a whole fleet of battle cruisers . Give me 20 minutes .

Speaker 2

Okay , well , what's your next one ?

Speaker 1

Ace Combat 4 .

Speaker 2

I didn't think about those . So why Ace Combat ?

Speaker 1

Because that was the first one I played . I mean , obviously you know Ace Combat 1 , 2 , it was just kind of like you know .

Speaker 2

I remember playing those games . I just didn't think about them for freedom fighting , kind of stuff .

Speaker 1

So Ace Combat 4 , just because it has a good story , where it's being told as , like you know , whatever the continent is , you know , rival Eurasia or whatever it is , you know , before they attacked there was a huge threat Asteroids were going to impact the planet . So all the nations teamed up , built this super weapon called Stonehenge .

This gigantic intercontinental railgun system of multiple cannons that basically will shoot asteroids out of space .

Speaker 2

Shows how far away I've been in Ace Combat . I remember playing the originals where it was just jet versus jets .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so they build that crap , the evil Eurasian people basically launch a surprise attack , capture Stonehenge because they can shoot it continentally and basically drive all like the coalition force that you fly for out of the continent to like an island .

And it's like you guys are like on the last , you know the last thread okay and you come up as a fighter you know fighter , jet pilot , you know stop . You know the first attack and then there's like a bombing run that's going to come through and destroy a bunch of stuff . So you intercept them , take them down .

Then you start doing missions and working your way across the continent . Then eventually you go and fight Stonehenge .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 1

Or you have a mission I mean that was like the coolest mission because you have to like drop to the deck , because you're watching these things like go flying over you yeah , you know the rounds and like planes are just exploding because they weren't low enough .

Speaker 2

That's pretty cool .

Speaker 1

So then you have to go against Yellow Squadron , which is their elite fighter squadron , and all this is being told is a narrative of a little kid .

Speaker 2

Why .

Speaker 1

So he's not narrating the whole thing , but the cut scenes between missions is the story of how he lived in a place and he was watching a Yellow Squadron fighter fighting some other fighter and he downs him and he's like and he crashed like into his house , okay , like he , like he killed his whole family , yeah , so he gets taken up , the occupation forces come

through . So you see , it's like you know he ends up tagging along with them , with the fighter , the yellow squadron guys , and just be , basically , you know , living the war on through a child's innocence eyes . Okay , as you , as you're flying , blowing stuff up , yeah . And it cuts to him and like , oh , they moved here . Rations are getting shorter .

Speaker 2

So it gives you a scale and depth of a conflict . Okay , well , that's interesting because I hadn't played the Ace Combat probably since Ace Combat 2 at the most .

Speaker 1

I really wish they'd remastered Ace Combat 4 .

Speaker 2

Anyways , moving on to my next one , I have Gears of War Because they're basically just trying to survive . The locusts , from the locusts , yeah , and then , especially with the E-Day coming out , where it's like the quiet day , or the quiet ones , day one or whatever . This is E-Day , the first day the locusts just show up .

It's going to be coming out , but Gears of War , because you're like the last beacon of hope for humanity , as these underground dwellers that just showed up have wreaked havoc on humanity .

Speaker 1

The first one was so cool . Yeah , because there was nothing going on like that in video games .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

You can like the blood , the gore . You're chainsawing dudes .

Speaker 2

I guess the gameplay ability where you're running . At that time there wasn't a whole lot where you run from cover to cover like that , yeah , so it was really cool . It was a lot of fun , and definitely the chainsaw gun .

Speaker 1

Or like the krill , like you couldn't fight at night .

Speaker 2

Right , because you get annihilated . Yeah , you had to stay in the spotlight . I'm interested to see how E-Day is . I mean , I'd be interested in playing it .

Speaker 1

A worthy addition to your list .

Speaker 2

All right , what's your next ?

Speaker 1

one Halo 2 .

Speaker 2

My next one is Halo Reach and ODST , so I will include that in the conversation I figured , because I was like well , Halo 2 .

Speaker 1

And I was like you know Halo 1, . You know you find Halo , you land on Halo , you figure out what Halo's for yeah , so you blow up Halo .

You know Halo 2 starts , you know award ceremonies , you know good job , Chief Promotions , high fives , Covenant , come , come out of slip space and it's like you know they're going after earth , yeah , so then you have to go and fight on earth to free the planet from the covenant . And then you have to come back , yeah , and kick the covenant off earth again .

And you gotta come back and kick the flood off of earth or can till kill all the flood before it .

Speaker 2

You know they will destroy the entire planet well , I chose halo , reach and odst because they kind of happen at the same time , except for you're getting two different points of view . But I mean , you're essentially . You don't even get to be Master Chief , you're just Spartans .

Speaker 1

All this stuff's happening and you go Halo Reach happens , then Halo 1 happens , and then Halo 2 and ODST happen , like at the same time right , but I mean , basically you're having to defend the earth as it's being invaded for like the first time , essentially .

Speaker 2

So I thought I included those . I thought it was cool .

Speaker 1

Cause , like , even like the lore of the game were like after reach you know obviously Cortana the chief , the whatever they make it onto the pillar of autumn and they were going to go back to earth to escape . But they have the thing called like the cold protocol , where basically no one knows where Earth is .

I mean , senior commanders know how to get back , they all know where it is , but they're not allowed to go if they're around an enemy force , so they'll just do a random jump and keep jumping until they get away from everybody . Then you can go back , because they want the Covenant to figure out where Earth was . And then eventually they figured it out .

Speaker 2

I mean , I liked Reach because you got to , I didn't play Reach , you didn't play Reach , I didn't play Reach .

Speaker 1

I played ODST . You really should play .

Speaker 2

Reach my brother had . Odst , me and him played and beat it on like Legendary or whatever . On co-op , reach is pretty cool because you get the point of view from these different Spartans that spoiler . They each have their own last mission and it's really cool because they don't go out with a whimper . They all have their own last mission .

It's a lot of fun , especially when you're doing the sniper guy's missions , and then you have the guy with , basically , the minigun . His missions are pretty cool , um , but then I had odst , because it was .

It was a different take , because you couldn't just fight an enemy , you had to be strategic on how , what you did because you're human , you're not the chief and then you had the uh , the live action commercials those were really cool .

Speaker 1

Those were awesome . If they made the halo show look like that , it probably would have did good exactly like we could , like we could have did this in what 2006 ?

Speaker 2

You could have a whole Halo ODST TV show and I would watch it .

Speaker 1

Because it made it look like the Chief , because the Chief , I think , was in a couple or one of them .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But he was like a mythical figure to them . They were all like , oh my god , it's him , and you just see the scale of how big he is compared to normal people . Yeah .

Speaker 2

Let's see .

Speaker 1

He's like what ? Eight feet tall or something like that , or like seven foot something .

Speaker 2

Trying to find the guy that's on here that I'm friends with on Twitter through our stuff . But his last name's Ford . But he's actually trying to make an ODST TV show . He's been working on it . He's trying to get it approved . But it's not the Ford that's been on our podcast , but it's another guy named Ford that's .

He's been on like Teen Wolf and stuff like that . He's trying to actually make a Halo ODST TV show . I'm hoping it gets approved . He's shown like short quote , unquote trailers of stuff he's worked on . It'd be really cool to see .

Speaker 1

I'd watch that Definitely more than the actual Halo show .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the actual Halo show is kind of boring .

Speaker 1

The Halo show sucks .

Speaker 2

Yeah , sad .

Speaker 1

And it's like why does the Chief not have a helmet on ?

Speaker 2

I mean the last season the Chief barely even wore the armor , much less the helmet .

Speaker 1

Everybody knows the armor . Yeah , it's the Chief . Yeah , the reason they didn't . Like they wrote , like he does not take the home deals and expose who it is . It's like , yeah , he's got a name and a number , but like , even that , it's just like you play the game like you could be that guy .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

That's the point . Yeah , it's just armor . It could be you in it .

Speaker 2

But you know , guy , but the master chief instead I forgot .

Speaker 1

It's the , the tanto guy , what's his name ? From 13 hours that plays master chief , oh I forgot his actual name .

Speaker 2

Yeah , he doesn't . Yeah , I mean , if he would leave the armor and the helmet on , it'd be cool . But you know , I mean he's a good actor and everything , but it's just , it just takes . It takes you out of the element of the game . I mean that show to halo is what , like the rings of power was to lord of the element of the game .

Speaker 1

I mean that show to Halo is what , like the Rings of Power was to Lord of the Rings , yeah , which also apparently released a trailer . I haven't seen it yet because I don't want to see it , but anyway , my next one Destiny , Destiny . I thought about including that and I wasn't sure . It's a fight for freedom for the human race .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Especially because you have the last city .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I didn't think about the last city , but yeah .

Speaker 1

You gotta fight what the ?

Speaker 2

I will say the , the .

Speaker 1

Fallen the Lord the Vex .

Speaker 2

The Lord to the game is a lot better than what they presented as Like .

Speaker 1

I mean you do a bunch of stuff in the game and stuff , but Destiny 2 did a lot to salvage and build what Destiny 1 was , if you actually go in and read the lore books that are in the game .

Speaker 2

You go , click and learn more about the lore behind a specific gun , like the last word . The story behind the gun is really cool . Too bad they don't share that with you . You just get the gun for doing a mission . But's pretty cool . And yeah , I mean I didn't think about destiny . But yeah , you are the last city fighting off .

Uh , it's not the covenant , that's not the , the not the uh the fallen , the fallen the vex the cabal .

Speaker 1

The cabal , yeah , and then who's ? Who's the space guys from the moon ?

Speaker 2

The Hive , the Hive .

Speaker 1

You got to fight four different factions Big turtle guys , scary zombie dudes , robots , beep bop boop and then , like you know , super aliens .

Speaker 2

And I haven't seen the like what all the last .

Speaker 1

The last shape , the final shape .

Speaker 2

I haven't seen all that one yet . My cousin that I was talking about in the other episode , when we were talking he said it's pretty good they actually have a 12 person kind of like raid thing that you can do . Now it's not matchmaking , so you gotta have 12 people .

Speaker 1

Oh my god so wow , we would never be able to do that no , it's an act of Congress getting me , you and Hayden online at the same time these days .

Speaker 2

But yeah , I mean , I didn't think about Destiny . Destiny would be a good game for this . Why did you choose it , though ?

Speaker 1

I mean , just besides the it's the ultimate fight for freedom , fight for the freedom of the human race . Okay , against aliens , aliens and Russia . Against aliens , aliens and Russia , because you're in Russia .

Speaker 2

I didn't think about that too .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah . Isn't that where like Destiny 2 ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , because you're at the Cosmodrome .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , you know , I think the story of Destiny is really cool .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I agree , it just got very repetitive in the gameplay .

Speaker 1

I mean like the lore behind it , Like you know , earth , and then like the thing called the Traveler shows up and then all of a sudden , like you know , the human life expectancy triples . We basically enter into the golden age of humanity .

Speaker 2

you know , exploring colonized planets , bases , you know I would be down to watch any version of a Destiny show , whether it be animated like I don't want to say animated . Animated I mean like an adult animation .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Like a .

Speaker 1

I mean live action probably .

Speaker 2

Live action they had some live action commercials that were really good .

Speaker 1

The commercials were really good . The game for the first Destiny game was not . Did not live up to like where they're going to go , like they see , like all like the hive coming at them .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And it's like , hang on , let's play music . It's like play something classical . And and it's like , hang on , let's play music . It's like play something classical . And then it's like you know immigrant song by Led Zeppelin .

Yeah , it's like , and they're just running through the , the Titan jumps in the air , just punches the ground , blows this huge crater and kills them all .

Speaker 2

And they're all like nice it would be really the Halo route , where you had to focus on them outside of the suit all the time .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't care about it . I want to see cool armor , I want to see cool moves . I want to see aliens getting blown apart , exactly . I want to see Vex getting picked up , ripped in half by a Titan , I mean .

Speaker 2

I don't mind them in Destiny taking their helmets off and talking , but you've got to be in the suits doing stuff . So as long as they didn't go the Halo route , it would make a great show We'll go the Halo route . Yeah , I don't know , of course they would . But my second to last is Dynasty Warriors . Have you ever played that ?

Speaker 1

I had it , remember , in some game magazines you get like a demo CD and there'd be like seven games on there , and all these games you never heard of you were not going to play , they were just like what is this ?

But Dynasty Warriors , like eight or something , was on there and I'm just a runner and like you could like they were like time limited demos yeah , but if you you could get as far as you could like it wasn't like you know , only to an area and you have 50 minutes in it . It was you could do as much as you possibly could in 15 minutes , yeah .

So like we're running around , like you know , bo staff and the crap out of people and I was just like this game is wild .

Speaker 2

I had one or two of the dynasty games . I can't remember what , like what numbers they were , but I had one or two of the games and it's fun just because there's a narrative . And then basically they just drop you as a general into this army . That's fighting another army and fighting another army . And you just go out and you fight them .

It'll tell you in the bottom oh , they need help over here because they're losing ground . Well , you get on your horse and you run over there . You fight that wave of people coming in and their general that's leading them Like , oh , you need help over here . So you have to run down to this other spot .

Speaker 1

Fight them over there .

Speaker 2

Fight them , to get them back across the bridge , to keep him away . So I mean , it was , it was a fight , you know , army against army . It's a lot of fun and I thought it fit this narrative of freedom . Freedom Because they're coming after your castle and you've got to defend it , or you've got to go get their castle before they took our germs .

But no , I love those games because you were just basically just a warrior that would take out 20 soldiers at a time you were like Jet Li , bruce Li , on steroids .

Yeah , but it was a lot of fun Because you would fight all of them and then their general would come in and you had to fight him in the middle of all of it and you'd be fighting their soldiers , but then their general would come in and when you would fight they'd hit and your weapons would clash .

You'd have a small cinematic for a second , and then they separate and you keep fighting . You'd be fighting their soldiers again and you all hit and clash Another little cinematic and you separate . It was a lot of fun , I mean because there was no real story other than defend this castle or take this castle . Yeah , just fight , fight more .

You could see on the map the red , red , the blue , like going left and right , kind of like Battlefield . Yeah , but it was just , you know , on foot soldiers .

Speaker 1

I didn't think about that game so what's your next one ? Assassin's Creed 3 .

Speaker 2

Assassin's Creed . Yeah , yeah , because I mean I thought it was really cool that aren't there also missions where , like you , had to destroy British ? Yeah , you had to go in . One of the missions was dumping the tea in the harbor you had to go Boston Tea Party . You had to go there and basically defend the guys that were dumping the tea .

You had to fight off the soldiers that were on the boats that were trying to invade while they were trying to push stuff into the harbor , so it was a lot of fun . And then you had the cannons going off and you have to move from like bunker to bunker , getting closer so you can take out the cannons so your soldiers can get closer to their soldiers .

That was a fight for freedom .

Speaker 1

That game . It took a while to get into it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Because it was like eight hours of like prologue before you finally got into the game and then it was a little different because , as opposed to being like ancient cities where you're going in , you would have to travel through the forest and stuff to like a town . So it wasn't quite as populated as the other , but it was a bigger scale .

Speaker 1

Yeah , because you're in like New York , boston , philadelphia , and then it's like Lexington and Concord or something . Yeah , you're all over the place it was a big scale game .

Speaker 2

It just wasn't as populated as the cities in the originals . That's why I think it got a little less credibility , because it did feel more sparse and a lot more downtime kind of feel to it .

I mean you would come across like carriages of men kind of like in the Patriot , where you'd be the ghost in the middle of the woods which was kind of fun to be , and just really . You guys don't even have a chance . I'm Bill Gibson . What are you talking about ? You're all going to die Going with your hatchet . I'm going to do Blade .

Scary words yeah , I mean , I enjoyed that . That was your number one . Yeah , well , my number one Today . Hold on , wait , on , wait . Which one of these ?

Speaker 1

this is breaking hell divers . I knew it was gonna be hell divers democracy , super earth , our home .

Speaker 2

Prove to yourself that you have the strength and the courage to be free join the hell divers for democracy , for democracy , for democracy yelling this game makes you feel like you are just out there serving the world , serving the universe .

A grand I'm serving a fake government with more , like you know , enthusiasm than my actual well , just like doing doing the missions and stuff , you'll be out there and you can just like set off a nuke in the background and salute this game is just nonsense . It is . You're fighting off bugs and robots , but it's just so much the propaganda .

I mean , it's all satirical , it's like Starship Troopers . It is , it is , it's just like it , because you'll have the propaganda playing in the background when you go to these little settlements that you have to defend from the bugs . There's one where , like they had , like the , the something in end news network , but they're basically spread lie .

You know they say , oh , they're spreading lies on the . You know these are traitors , so you gotta disrupt their signal because get out of here fake news for you gotta disrupt the signal for plot , you know whatever there's a plot , yeah whatever , but I mean it was just so much fun and it is where you're .

I mean you're fighting for freedom because different sectors of space there as you're playing , like you , the community has to work together because the , the bugs and the automatons are on both sides , moving closer to Super Earth or back , depending on how much you work together and defend the galaxy .

Speaker 1

How's everyone doing then ?

Speaker 2

Well , because they've had trouble with new content and stuff . Not well , we're losing a lot of players and causes .

Speaker 1

A lot of territory .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it makes it hard to defend territory when you lose half your army because they decide not to show up .

Speaker 1

I think basically what's going to happen is they're going to . If I were them , I would do an ad like Super Earth is now in danger , like everyone needs to come back and defend the planet now Because it hasn't happened . I'm guessing in the game .

Speaker 2

They haven't gotten to Super Earth yet . They're getting closer , but they haven't gotten there yet because people were still fighting fighting for freedom and democracy .

Speaker 1

Like you ? Yes , because I won't play it .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , because you won't play on Steam . But if they would add it to Xbox , I guarantee .

Speaker 1

If it was on Xbox , I'd play it . Yeah , If it was on Xbox , I'd play it , yeah .

Speaker 2

If it was on Xbox , I mean , that alone would double the numbers , because right now it's on PlayStation and Steam and that's it . If you add it to Xbox , there's a whole other console of people that can play , plus the people that are , you know , on cross-console can play together .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I'm not as affluent or well-off as you are , mr I-Can-Play-On-Steam or .

Speaker 2

PlayStation 5 . You are , you're just more finicky .

Speaker 1

That's why I have money , because I don't like spending it .

Speaker 2

I got my Christmas money and that's when I bought it back in February , nice . But I mean it's a lot of fun to play , Like I said , because of the propaganda stuff that it just puts in there satirical in the game , it makes you feel like you're fighting for freedom .

The music in it Righteous freedom , I mean the music that I played for the little goofy part there . I mean that's playing the entire time or some version of it , making you feel like you're just fighting for the right of the people of the world of the universe , of super earth ?

Speaker 1

Yes , down with . What do we do with the ?

Speaker 2

bugs , kill them . All it does . It makes you feel like you're fighting for the world . Yeah , fighting for . Protect people , america .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Super Earth In a world . But yeah , that's my top ten fighting for freedom games .

Speaker 1

Nice .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . So have you watched anything ? I know we've already talked about Elden Ring in the last episode .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I talked about Elden Ring , have you watched anything recently ? Well , I did want to say I saw something while I was going to the bathroom . There was something I saw about Elden Ring where people were complaining that it's $40 for the DLC or it's like $49 . It's the price of a new game .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Which , I mean it pretty much , is its own game .

Speaker 2

I mean , helldivers was $40 , and Shadow of the Earth Tree is much more in-depth .

Speaker 1

Yes , just saying and then the new Star Wars game , that's coming out , it's yeah , it's like , let's say it's $60 for the game , yeah , or you could pay $99.99 , you know , $100 for the bonus content you get one extra mission .

Yeah , and like a character skin , yeah , that was it , and you could play three days early , which is Bull , because it's basically when the game already releases for another .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it comes out on Steam .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

But you can play on PlayStation and Xbox three days early , just like Steam plays .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

For no extra charge .

Speaker 1

And it's like well , that's why everyone's or all the developers are mad at FromSoft , because they basically just were like hey , yeah , it's $40 , but you are going to get your money's worth . Right , I got worth right , I got my money's worth out of that game . I haven't even beat it yet .

I still gotta play and fight , but definitely , um , what have I watched ? Uh , getting more caught up on house of the dragon , new episode comes out tonight . This is episode four yes , it's been okay .

Speaker 2

I mean like I've watched them too , but I feel like the last episode kind of was a letdown at the end .

Speaker 1

I'm trying to remember what happened the last time .

Speaker 2

Remember she goes and meets the queen .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2

I was like eh , Eh .

Speaker 1

I feel like , well now if it's Game of Thrones style .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

You get , you know , intro , you get like ooh , and then now it's going to be like all right , now we can pick it up and then it'll probably go , because I don't know if they're doing a season three . I don't think they are . I think this is it right .

Speaker 2

Well , I think it just depends on how well the season does . Are they going to do a different ? Spinoff of some other story . Well , I mean , I don't think the war or the Targaryen stuff will be , finished in this season because it's only going to be what seven or eight episodes .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so this is when they've got to pick up the pace .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean either they've got to really pick it up or there'll have to be another season , as long as it's good .

Speaker 1

A lot of Lord of the Rings channels are bashing the crap out of the trailer for the new season of Rings of Power . Oh yeah , because it's just nonsense .

Speaker 2

Well , all of it is .

Speaker 1

It is stupid nonsense . And there's like one channel that like they're like all about like anything , lord of the Rings . It's just like they defend Rings of Power . And then I watched . I was like I watched and I'm like you're not convincing me Because this is garbage . This convincing me because this is garbage . This show sucks .

This is the most expensive flop ever of a tv show . And there's like other channels that like they just light up that show and I'm like , yeah , you tell them , because I mean the showrunners , they should be dragged in the street and flogged . But I digress . Uh , the boys . New episode came out on season four .

Speaker 2

Did you watch it somewhere ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , I watched the whole thing . Homelander's just an idiot .

Speaker 2

His reaction . He was like His reaction when he gets .

Speaker 1

He got the hot .

Speaker 2

Spoiler alert . Spoiler alert when he gets sprayed with the breast milk .

Speaker 1

With titty milk His reaction was priceless .

Speaker 2

He was just like so mad and I was like and he's like , he's just like , he's like . Like he just didn't know what to do , like he was so excited .

Speaker 1

Disarmed , he was done .

Speaker 2

He was like , ah , what happened ? That's a great day of my life . That wouldn't be me , but he was , he was happy . He was happy and shocked at the same time .

Speaker 1

I like how he tries to give the speech to the world leader people yeah , you know , like the seedy underground of politics and they just start lighting him up with questions and he's just like ah , and that's a great point you bring up .

Speaker 2

I was waiting for him just to kill everyone , I was like , oh God . I was like he's just going to laser beam everybody .

Speaker 1

Because he's just , and then .

Speaker 2

Yui to be stuck in the thing . Oh my .

Speaker 1

God , that was horrible . Oh my God , Just when you think the show just can't get grosser , they come at you and you're just like get ready , it's getting awful swampy . It's like we've already had flying superhero goats .

Speaker 2

Yeah . Yeah , I mean I enjoy watching the show , but sometimes I take it a little far , like okay alright , that person got picked up by a superhero goat and they're getting ripped apart blood and entrails everywhere . I've been watching also the Acolyte show on Disney Plus for Star Wars . There's a lot of people that complain about it .

Yeah , there's a lot of complaining about that show . I mean I've enjoyed it .

I like what they're doing To each their own , but they do make it very interesting for the early days where basically the guy that's playing the Acolyte he's kind of hinting at the development of the Rule of Two for the Sith , because before that they were just Because in Star Wars canon originally there was just tons of Sith .

Speaker 1

You had the Jedi and then they split . They had the great Jedi schism and they went to the dark side and they became the Sith . It was just the mirror image of the Jedi Order .

Speaker 2

Well , at this point , all that's still myth , because they're all evil .

Speaker 1

They were killing each other and fighting for power all the damn time . So Darth Bane instituted the rule of two .

Speaker 2

Well , and that's where this one is kind of like all that's already happened and he's wanting to reinstitute and bring it back During the High Republic kind of era . And this guy , he's basically trying to get an apprentice . And that's where the twins that are good and bad kind of come into play .

But they introduced the cortosis armor or metal , which people were like , oh well , you can't just be headbutting lightsabers and stuff . Well , the cortosis armor .

Speaker 1

Listen to lightsabers .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , that , and I had to research . Basically it shorts out the lightsaber if you touch it with it . So , like when these guys were going to swing and hit him , he would just headbutt the like the hilt and it would short it out , which I thought was really cool and they're like ah . Because at first , I was like that's so stupid , what's happening .

And then when they explained it and I looked it up in research , I was like , oh , that makes perfect sense , so it's pretty cool . I mean , the one dumb thing they have done is they've made a lightsaber whip . This one girl that's like the leader of the Jedi at the moment .

She has like a purple whip , like it's a lightsaber , but then she can like flip it and it whips out . She cut a flying bug thing in half , which I don't know how I feel about that . We don't need lightsaber whips .

Speaker 1

A dual blade is enough . Yeah , dual blade was enough . I mean , dual blade was cool . And then we had the stupid crossguard crap from Kylo Ren .

Speaker 2

And it was kind of like nah . And now the main bad guy so far .

There was one scene where spoiler if you haven't seen it yet he's fighting and then he basically takes it apart and he has almost like a knife and his blade gets shorter like his big blade , and then he also has a little knife that he's still blocking with one and it stabs her three times with the knife size and then puts it back together into a full sword ,

which I thought that was kind of cool . That was pretty cool . A lot of people were like oh , that's it that defeats the purpose . If they could have done that back , then they could have been doing it all .

Speaker 1

That's like aria stark doing the , the knife drop , yeah , and just go .

Speaker 2

And it's like well , basically at this point this guy's fighting a padawan that's just decided to . I don't know why . She thought she was gonna fight a sith by herself , but basically she jumps in there and he's blocking and she goes to swing and he just like pulls out the little thing and stabs her three like and you're seeing her back with him in front .

So all you see is three little holes of like the lights there pop through and then she just falls . It was pretty cool . I'm just saying I've enjoyed this show . To me it's one of the better Star Wars shows , because the Book of Boba Fett was okay at some points and then just dumb at others .

To me it's not as good as the Mandalorian or Andor , but it's still pretty good . I mean , to me it's not as good as the Mandalorian or Andor , but it's still pretty good . Or Kenobi , yeah , I mean , like I said , I enjoyed those other three a lot and I think this one's okay .

I mean it's not bad and it's nowhere near like people are complaining that it's woke and all this . I don't get that vibe . I mean I feel like they're telling a very interesting story .

I mean I feel like they're telling a very interesting story and they tell a story that is different from , I guess , the natural canon of , like all the books and stuff , but it's its own story that merges over with TV stuff you know the movies and things like that Because you have Sol , which is the good guy .

Jedi , and I forget the bad guy's actual name , tim . Well , the bad guy , he's like , you know , like any bad guy would just like Plagueis did to Anakin .

He's like , well , you know , telling the good girl , the good twin , telling her like , yeah , well , all the Sith and the Jedi are is perspective on what side you're , on , which that's exactly what Plagueis did to Anakin . People are like oh well , sorry , yeah Sidious , that's exactly what he did . But people are like oh well , you can't say there's two sides .

It's just open to interpretation , that's . I mean , that's kind of how they explained it . That's how you convince someone to go to the dark side . It's a matter of perspective .

Speaker 1

Or what do you want ? Also start taking like Mach 4 tests for the Machiavellianism ?

Speaker 2

Well , actually they do have a test that the Jedi make the two twins take , and one girl takes the test and lies .

One girl takes it , it tells the truth and that's kind of where it diverges from the very first episode , because one wants to be a jedi and one wants to stay with the , uh , what essentially would be like the night sisters the like the early version of them or something like that . So it's interesting .

It's it's interesting because it forms along with Ahsoka , where you can see where the Nightsisters , and that could have come from these years and years later . So it's really interesting . Really good , I've enjoyed it .

Speaker 1

I might check it out .

Speaker 2

You should Like I said it's Star Wars , but basically it's a whole story that has no connection other than a few little .

Speaker 1

It's like the Skywalker saga .

Speaker 2

Well , I mean it's got a few connections here and there to normal canon , but because it's so far in the past , you don't have to worry . Oh , it's going to affect the way you see Luke Skywalker . It doesn't have that kind of long-lasting effects , but there's that . And then I've also watched Beverly Hills Cop Axel F .

They madea new Beverly Hills Cop movie on Netflix . It's got a 6 out of 10 on IMDb . I think it deserves at least a 7 . It's really funny . Basically the synopsis is after his daughter's life is threatened , wisecracking detective Axel Foley teams up with a new partner and some old pals to turn up the heat on a conspiracy .

Speaker 1

In Beverly Hills .

Speaker 2

Yeah , he has to go back to Beverly Hills . He's being a cop in New York and he has to go back to Beverly Hills .

Speaker 1

Well , he's in New York .

Speaker 2

He was in detroit for like the first three movies , right he ? But he has to go . I won't say he's in new york in the very beginning of this movie , but then he has to go back to beverly hills where his daughter is there .

Of course there's drama with between them because , you know , he , he wasn't a good enough father , his , uh , his wife left him and took the daughter back to beverly hills . So there's that whole drama . But I feel like he does a very good return to this character , like the very first scene when he goes back to Beverly Hills .

There's these guys that are inside this lawyer's apartment or whatever , just rummaging through stuff , going through trying to find what they want . He just walks in and he's like they're like , who are you ? And he's they're like who are you ? He's like what do you mean ? Who am I ? Who are you ? He's like did they send you up here ? Who sent me up here ?

Beck , yeah , beck sent me up here . He's like yeah , yeah , beck sent me .

Speaker 1

He just sent me . This is us lying . Yeah , of course he did . What are you stupid ?

Speaker 2

And then , while they're all so , the guy Beck comes up there and goes who are you ? You said you were with him . He's like oh , he takes a fire extinguisher , sprays him , hits one in the face and runs off . He just does a good job . Going back to his character , the other characters that were in the other movies are all there as well , in different roles .

It's really funny . I've enjoyed it . So far I haven't gotten to see the ending , because every time I try to watch it something comes up and I don't get to finish it been trying to finish but it's a good movie . It's definitely worth the watch . Like I said , it's got a 6 out of 10 on IMDB .

I think it should be at least a 7 to a 7.5 from what I've seen so far . I've really enjoyed .

Speaker 1

I might check that one out because I like the first two . I didn't like the third one . I don't know if I've seen the third one , third one . The first one is still , I think , my favorite . The third one is just so funny . Do you have any ?

Speaker 2

news no , not really Okay news ?

Speaker 1

No , not really . Okay , that's not because we talked about the Doctor Disrespect thing . That was like the biggest gaming news that happened .

Speaker 2

I do have a little bit of news here . Pixar has announced its next few movies that they're working on . It'll either be in theaters or on Disney+ , but they have Moana 2 , which is coming out November 27th of this year , which my kids really love . Moana they're going to have Mufasa , the Lion King , so Mufasa's story before the Lion King .

It comes out December 20th . They're going to have a Snow White live action remake , which that's had some drama with the stuff going on with . The actor or the actress you know want to tell her story that Snow White was not a princess , that needed a prince . She said all that in an interview . She was an independent woman who didn't need no man .

So that said , it's drama about it .

Speaker 1

It's like just tell the story like it's supposed to be told , damn it .

Speaker 2

We'll see how that goes . There's something called Elio , which I don't know what that's going to be , but it comes out June 13th next year . You got Tron Ares , which is the next installment of Tron . Which , what's the main bad guy ?

Speaker 1

I don't know I never saw the Tron movies .

Speaker 2

Oh , okay , the guy that played him in the most recent one . Is it Jeff Bridges , who ?

Speaker 1

played him yes .

Speaker 2

He's actually going to be back in this movie in some capacity . Then you got Zootopia 2 , which will come out November 26th next year . There's going to be a Moana live action movie that they're coming out with . It's supposed to start filming next year . It'll be coming out in July of 2026 . You got Frozen 3 in 2026 and Toy Story 5 in 2026 .

Speaker 1

Toy Story 5? .

Speaker 2

Yes , jesus . Marvel also has a series called Agatha All Along , which Agatha Harkness is the one from the WandaVision and it's supposedly it says it's going to be a genuine horror apparently . So she's dealing with all the horror elements that are in Marvel .

It's actually going to be based on scary stuff and not just some kind of goofy , Because her character was kind of goofy in the series as far as personality . So supposedly the Marvel Studios head of TV and streaming , brad Winderbaum , called it really scary . So whether it's actually scary or he just thinks it's scary , we'll see .

But I'm interested to see it , to see that , to see that version or that side of the marvel universe . Uh , stranger things . Season five , uh , it comes out . I won't say it's supposed to be later this year , I think yeah , and the uh maya hawk which plays um , what's her name ? uh , robin .

She said basically it's going to be like eight movies , because each episode is like an hour and a half long , so it'll be eight episodes . But she said it's basically like eight different movies , nice .

Speaker 1

So we'll see how that one goes . Good content for everybody .

Speaker 2

And then Netflix has a Terminator Zero which is coming out , which is basically it's going to be an animated , like anime style Terminator show , and Rosario Dawson is awesome , and then Timothy , timothy Oliphant will be the some of the voice cast for it . So I'm interested to see that , because I'd be more interested in that than anything .

I saw a little bit of like the anime from a commercial and it looked pretty cool . I mean , it's like futuristic Terminator , not like Arnold coming back , but it's based in the future , oh sorry . And then also Scarlett Johansson confirmed she will star in the new Jurassic World movie .

They're doing another one , they're doing another set of three movies and I don't think it's a continuation , I want to say it's almost like a reboot kind of thing , and she's going to be the star of this next three series . So that's all I got .

Speaker 1

What does that say Jurassic ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , the new Jurassic World movie , but supposedly it's like another set of three movies that aren't directly tied to the most recent three .

Speaker 1

All right , Looking out for all it's worth aren Alright .

Speaker 2

We'll see how that goes .

I did see another thing where she said that she's been wanting to be in a Jurassic World movie or Jurassic Park movie since she was little , and she said that she told him that she doesn't care if she dies in the first ten minutes , she just wants to be in one of them , but supposedly she'll be like one of the stars of the next three movies that they put

out . That's all I got .

Speaker 1

I guess that's it .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Another episode Gone , goodbye , goodbye , we'll see you later , bueller .

Speaker 2

Bueller , end it Bueller , done it Bueller , duh .

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