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I'm so tired .
Me too . It's Thursday , it's 9 am . We've been awake almost 24 hours .
The beakers are mid-city . The beakers are lit . Gunnocles parade .
Dramatic pause . Still dramatic and Rohan will answer me . If you had cut in and entertained this elixir . That was a missed opportunity . Oh , we gotta do the whole thing . Is this the whole song ?
Why not ?
I know it is , but it's . Oh , I gotta listen to dead authority tomatoes . God , sorry , listener , I gotta stop it . Guys like destroying those tomatoes . It was a rip-it-chicken leg . That was loud . Why You're out of control ? You , sir , are out of control with these intros . You need to knock it off .
I just wait till we end .
We have been awake for a long time .
I've been awake 24 hours .
I'm seeing things . You have hair For now . You have more than I do you have the reverse . Combined , we'd have a full head of hair , don't worry , I'll just get rid of it all soon . Just hold that as long as you can , mitch , don't go back .
Can you get the big comb over ?
Oh , yeah , do that nice 80s schlatt comb over this one is a gust of wind , it pops up like a angry cockatoo . What are we doing this episode ?
Return of the King .
That makes sense based on what we listen to . I'm getting there . I guess , before we jump in , this is the last part . We're doing this lore of the rings deep dives scene by scene , thing that Mitch came up with .
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Find the old ones , like comment , subscribe , hit the bell and if you want to get a notification , he posts it . Yeah , yeah , yeah , so let's start with the 2003 cinematic epic master piece 2003 . Man , that was a long time ago . I know the Return of the King .
This was a .
I mean 11 . Oscars and it won all of them . Oh yeah , this is the same year Master and Commander came out . I mean , I think it was probably my favorite movie , but they had to compete against the Lord of the . I felt bad for any movie in 2003 . Going into the Oscars or whatever , because you were competing against the greatest fantasy film ever made .
I have to say that , like I really like , the Two Towers is my favorite , but this one's pretty close .
Two Towers is your favorite .
Yeah , just because I like the Battle of .
Helmsdeep .
Battle of Helmsdeep is great but , I mean yeah , I like the theater at this epic scale . It's good too , but I just , for some reason , I like Two Towers a little better .
So in this movie we open up with the scene where DGGL and Smeagol are still . They're called Stour Hobbits , Store Hobbits .
It's spelt weird . Why are they different than ?
They're hobbits , but they're like river hobbits .
Okay .
Hobbits in the shower like they can't swim . That's how Fredo's biological parents drowned . Oh , there was a theory that Gollum actually killed him Looking for Bilbo , and he found them because he heard the name and then he drowned them . That would make sense .
He's an aferious little fellow .
I guess that explains why Sam couldn't swim . Well , he was carrying the weight of Frodo the quest all the cooking gear .
How could you swim ? I'm talking about in fellowship .
Sam is the G . He put up with Frodo's crap , this entire film and Gollum Mm-hmm .
They had to fight Shilob , they had to fight the orcs .
This movie is epic upon epic moment .
¶ Gollum's Transformation and Saruman's Fate
Yeah , but we open with DGGL and Smeagol fishing . Dggl gets pulled into the water by a very large fish .
He's just holding on to it .
He finds the ring climbs the shore , smeagol comes to tend to him , sees the ring and is ensnared right off the bat . And then he kills DGGL for it , he jokes him out and takes it , and then you go through Gollum's transformation .
Yeah , as he's losing his mind and kind of morphing into the other thing over the years .
As he's slowly devolving into Gollum and then he goes underground for the next 500 years . Actually , I think I said in the first one we did for fellowship that he had the ring for like 2,000 years . That's wrong . I think he had it for like 500 , 550 .
Okay , yeah , I mean because that should look a little transformation , as he's like losing his hair and stuff .
I mean , he had the ring for 500 years Actually he I think I'd have to look , but I think he had the ring longer than Sauron actually had it .
Probably Because Sauron forced the ring . Yeah , he forced it and then he had the war he was yeah , he didn't have it that long Doesn't seem like .
Yeah , he was brought to Numenor , brought the downfall of Numenor , reestablished back in Mordor in the United Alves . Yeah , golem , I had the ring . The longest is gone . The real Lord of the ring . This is also the movie where you actually see someone have the ring and then give it back willingly .
Yeah which in the book he gives it , like they kind of do like a thing at the end when they're in Kyra Thungle and Sam has the ring because he thought Frodo was dead . Yeah , he's gonna hand it back , and you kind of see him like hesitate for just a second , yeah , before he just hands it to him . In the book he's just like yeah , here .
And for us , like Sam's like okay , chill out , buddy . Like you know , we're almost done with this . Well , you know we're gonna get there , come to come , come , cool your jets easy there , big shooter , but we pick up Frodo . They wake up like I guess they're hoveling like the sewer they are in like the sewer gate exit from Oskilieth .
Was a Santa Frodo .
San Frodo in .
Galicia . I watch a movie , but I'm trying to remember . It's like we said .
This is where golems leading them to the hidden stairs , the path that Menace morgill yeah which used to be menace ethyl and like nobody just notices , I'm going like I noticed .
Well , I don't know what part of the movie this was .
Well , they go to go do that and it's like , oh , the return of the king . And then you get the extended cut where you have the Fellowship , the remnant remnants of the fellowship . You got Gandalf , aragorn and Gimli , legolas , mary Pippin , or well , not
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Mary Well .
They're all together in the beginning with when they get the plant .
No , they find them there at Isengard . They find Mary and Pippin or Isengard and Gimli's like we ran all you . Craftware across the continent in like a day , just to find you sit and eating and smoking and they're just like the salt of course , particularly good and kill me . It's like salt , the pork food .
Huh , don't hurt , but you know , say it in a mirror and the rest of the squad from the victory helms you go to Isengard where they find it submerged and tree beard , salam and creamer . So they're ending and I'm gonna touch on this now because it doesn't get explored in the movie at all
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Okay where they meet the two of them at , or think Grima stabs our Saruman in the back , legolas kills Grima , similar deaths , but Happening happening at the very end of Return of the King during the scouring of the Shire , where tree beard is left in charge but he can't bear to have someone like locked up Because he's just a compassionate , even though Saruman's a
wicked evil person . He lets him and Grima leave . They end up going to the Shire . They Saruman becomes a gangster known as Sharky . He becomes a mobster . What oh yeah , they killed the sackville baggins is Grima's like feet , like eat , like cannibalizing people .
He's just like a wretch of a person because of Saruman , because he still has the power of the voice . It's Christopher Lee's voice will make you like run in the traffic if he told you to do it . His voice is that cool , it's that awesome and it's been him . He is Count Dooku and Dracula . He's a quite the guy .
But they end up going and then Frodo has pity on Saruman and like was gonna like get out of here , just keep going . Wherever you're going , just keep going . And Grima kills Saruman on the doorstep of back end and you actually see , like in the book , saruman spirit like Manifests because he's technically an immortal . Okay , like his physical body is destroyed .
But his spirit is the same with like Gandalf yeah and I like he turns and looks to the west and then a gust of wind from the West , blowing east , launches him out like nah , you have to up , you have to up hardcore . You ain't coming over here , buddy , you're done . You can go over there for that for eternity .
And then Grima runs away and he's shot down by Hobbit archers .
Hobbit archers , mm-hmm , there's a whole battle .
Oh , at the end that's not in the movie , okay , because I mean it's it's not as much of a happy ending , gotcha , I mean there's a lot of stuff that happens like they have like the seeds where they got from Galadriel .
They like replant the Shire and like restore it to like a beyond glory of what it was Okay and it's , you know , obnoxiously picturesque and wonderful and you want to live there . And then you know the gray havens at the end .
But in the movie where they Saruman is stabbed in the back About to reveal information by Grima , legolas shoots Grima , Saruman falls and pales himself on the spiky wheel thing of doom and he drops the plant here that Pippin picks up in the movie Grima throws it Out of the window okay . And he misses Saruman and Gandalf .
They're like he couldn't choose between which one of the two he hated more . So he just hope for the best . Maybe he had ricochet off Saruman's head after a KO'd him and picked Gandalf in the forehead or something . He's going for the you know , he's over there playing Angry Birds . But so Saruman is killed and they , they deduce that .
Well , they don't deduce , they send word that you know Saruman or Saruman's obviously plotting the next stroke , especially because he lost Eisen guard as an ally . But he already knew that Saruman had already turned on him anyway and gone rogue .
We got cuz Saruman was trying to take over his . Mm-hmm very pretty much just trying to take over everything Sauron wanted .
Yeah , he was trying to become the Lord of the Rings , but me even the Nazgul were on to him . Like they came and saw that Eisen guard was in ruins and then reported back . Yeah , cuz I mean other than they get up and gets the Palantir , they end up going back to Eteros big party , everybody's high-fiving .
We did it , we kick some butt and then Pippin being Pippin Can't help himself takes the Palantir from from sleeping eyes open Gandalf . Yeah , he's just like jars , like Indiana Jones with the bag of sand Idol he's like .
And then you know , pippin obviously like goes in like a seizure holding it , he starts freaking out he does squirm it all around because in the book Sauron talks to Pippin . He doesn't know he's Pippin . He thinks he's one of the captured hobbits .
Yeah that's our man had , yeah , before he's told what happened to Eisen guard and he's like you know , he's like , why have you neglected to report for so long ? Like questioning , like he thought he's gonna talk to Saruman . Then he's like , oh , and like they describe , like seeing , like Sauron's eye , like looking at him and hearing his voice .
Look , you don't hear his voice , but in the movie you see like the movie .
You do hear his voice In several bits and his voice sounds like super cool , like way cooler than inside of the hobbit .
Okay , I didn't hear it or didn't notice it , but I did see like his eye pops up , because they're like you know his eye like red reading flame , like you know , with eyes Like a cat , you know when a pit and the guys , like you know , a window into nothing . This is Sauron's eyes , which most people couldn't like .
Stare Sauron directly in the eye , like very few people could actually maintain eye contact with him , just because he daunted people that much because of it .
So Ergon grabs it from him , he passes out , he's like again they'll throw us the blanket and then when they question Pippin , they realize what Pippin saw was the burning Tree or the , the white tree of essentially they got lucky because Pippin saw stuff and didn't reveal anything . Yeah , he didn't say .
He's like Well , in the book , saruman's like he's like what are you ? And he and Pippin's like a hobbit and and so on just starts laughing at him . He's like a hobbit , ah , ah . And he leaves . He's just like , yeah , well , that was a fuck it . That's some of the hobbit , that's cool . He's like I go back to you know , try to take over the world .
I don't have time for this trivial conversations .
He just feels are inconsequential . Okay .
So then they find out that's what's gonna happen , and then in the movie they're like oh , sauron thinks you have the ring because he talked to him .
Yeah , cuz up . Mary mentions that to him when I have to split up .
Mm-hmm , and then they're gonna take him to Gondor . So , gandalf , you know Preps everybody , like yo , I ride the Gondor . And then he tells Ergon , like you know , it's like you might come to Minnesota by a different route .
And then they like , hinted , like the corsairs of umbar , which umbar is a city south of Gondor , okay , south of Mordor , when they were also a new Minorean . They were like a colony when new Minor was still a thing . Okay but they allied with like the east and were influenced by Sauron got first yeah and they're called , like the black , new Minorians .
Okay , yeah , cuz I saw something like doing some research . I saw something about that , but I didn't know what like . What's the difference ? So , just because they're just bad new Minorians .
Okay , okay , that's really just it . Okay , that's really it . So they make all their grand plans .
Gandalf heads out and I believe we cut to Faramir at the siege of Osgiliath , where the orcs , like D-Day style , storm , storm at the other half of the city start quietly with the rowing boats and then they see it's like shoot and they're like they're coming from the river which is crazy because orcs don't do water .
Yeah , so that was actually like that was pretty good , and they had their little D-Day boats with the ramp falling down and , pardon me , is I'm like , why'd you let him get past ? You like that ?
Many of them Watched half of them run past and then jump out at the other half .
It's kind of strange , you know it's like the Japanese tried that and it didn't work .
Yeah , because they're just surrounded yeah it's just like , oh crap .
And then you know they lose the city .
Yeah .
We're gonna very , very quickly and they have to run for it , but by that point Gandalf had already made it .
Yeah , cuz he's there when Faramir shows up .
Yes , he's already there .
Gandalf makes it to ministereth , meets Denethor and Even like , as they're walking in Gandalf's just like , don't say anything about Frodo the Ring , don't say anything about Aragorn , don't tell him anything about his beloved son's death , and then he goes , in fact don't say , just don't talk , just be quiet , like I know it's impossible virtually for you , but just bite
your lip and just shut up . Then in true pippin fashion where he comes in and it's like you know he's Denethor's holding , holding Barmur's horn that was cloven in two he's like oh crap then .
And then swears to become yeah , like his guard or servant or something he pledges service to Denethor yeah .
We should . And then Denethor is like on his like weird Mind power trip because obviously he's grief-ridden . Yeah at the loss of his son . He has a Palantir and even though he's stronger willed and most it doesn't get word of the movie there in the books he has one okay .
Yeah , they don't show the movie , but in the books he does have one okay where he's like shown images by Sauron .
That's what kind ?
of like the destruction of gondor and like the enslavement of the world and that's nothing that they can do .
That's why so kind of paranoid and stuff .
Yeah , okay , he's just kind of slowly been whittled at and he's just on like the edge of madness .
Okay , it makes a little more sense for his character on why he would be that way , so Mm-hmm .
But and then Denethor knows about Aragorn . Oh , yeah he's like . You know we're not gonna bow to some ranger from the north and Gennels like authorities not granted you to deny the return of the king .
He's like . Point of you being here is to wait until the king got here .
You're literally the steward . You are not the king . You are the steward , you are placeholder , while king is about doing stuff .
And you have to wonder , like he's a steward , his little throne to the side , but how many times is he actually sitting ?
I mean he's got like a chair like that's like two steps up , yeah , and then there's like a staircase to get to where Aragorn would sit if he was there . Like he's in the nosebleeds sitting up there on his chair . He needs the binoculars on the stick . Look at the opera . So look down and go . Who's that ?
talking what
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He's like I can't tell who it is from all the way up here . So , many of them .
So , but now my question is why is the steward so dead set against like , killing his son Faramir , like he wants to send him off late . Well , so I guess we're jumping a little ahead of , but he wants to send him off later . And then he wants to light up a fire . But why is he so dead set against our said set to do that ?
I mean , he and the den of Thor had always favored Baramir . Baramir was more alike Denethor yeah but it's a little much to want to kill you , baramir was a great warrior , yeah , experienced commander , held us gillieth with nothing Except his own strength , and you know , obviously , his squad , his boys .
Baramir was like the perfect guy , but it would be like you know one of our parents , one who's like all right , well , y'all are so good , we're just gonna kill the youngest one . Yeah , it's like what .
It was basically Denethor , just like looks at Faramir , like you're not nearly as good as your brother , is that stuff ?
And .
Faramir is like a very capable swordsman an archer , a ranger , like he's a cat he's . He's not a slouch . Like he survived the storming of us gillieth . They managed to get as most of his men back , or at least half or something , maybe like a third , I don't know , I don't know how many . They didn't give me a casualty report , my movie so .
But once a fair mirror retreats and Gandalf's arrived , what's the Baramir looks at Pippin like oh , another one .
And Gandalf's like you see , that's right , a hobbit before . And he's like yeah , two days ago . And he tells him that they're taking the road through to the morgill veil , to Minas morgill .
I .
Thought you're about to say something .
Some of my questions here that I had before you . I'm trying to mark off the one that I already asked .
I'd find it , though , mm-hmm and then we got what's going on . There's so much in this movie . Yes , that's going on and I'm trying to . I mean , I've seen this movie like 30 times , if not 50 , and I've read the
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book several times and listen to the drama multiple times . But the book version of events in the movie version events similar but different orders . So Fermi updates Gandalf . Gandalf knows that Frodo , smeagol and Sam are still have the ring .
They were in a Thillian two days ago and they've been through us Gileath already and they've made it to the morgle veil when I believe we cut to Frodo and Sam , where they come to the gates or the causeway to get to the city that's right dead city and Frodo's , you know , having one of his moments .
He's holding the ring and like walk towards the gate with his hand out like
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hello , and they got to like grab him and retch him back and and they start making their way up the stairs and then the witch king appears and then marshaling the army .
Nobody sees them crawling up the side .
They crawled those stairs for like an hour . Well , yeah , in the movie , yeah , and that mark that army kept moving . There was just dudes keep coming .
They were still marching at the end of like the last 100,000 orcs okay five at Palomar fields . I mean , they there's Granted . You know also , the bridge is not that wide , so you had to narrow like four to five across , you got a and they're like condensed the army , condensed the army . But as they're . I mean , why are they called the state ?
So I know this is a dumb question , but why are they called the stairs , when they had to climb the entire thing ?
and the hobbits are tiny . If they were full-sized people , they probably would have used it as true stairs . They're half the size of me and you but the Nazgul's and the witch king .
They fly over them .
I thought they they fly past them because they're like the staircase is concealed , like nobody really knows it's even there .
But I thought the Nazgul's stuff they could like sense the ring .
Yeah , the witch king pauses .
Okay , and then this messes it .
This is like nobody would be this close . There's no way . It's just not . And it's like nah , you're wrong . You're falling asleep on the job . Buddy , you need to go a little bit more , like you did in fellowship . I Need to sniff it out . So Gandalf , I believe , then has pippin like the beacons .
And then we go through like the epic two-minute montage of beacons getting lit across the continent , and then you get the beginning part of our intro where Aragorn sees the beacons . He's all excited runs in runs in and then because , like the whole time , fate is just like why should we ride to the aid of those ?
It didn't come to ours , yeah , and then the beacons can get lit and you know the dramatic pause , and he's like and Rohan will awesome .
Then the music kicks in every say yeah , well , they go on like their little journey where Mary Pippin will , mary and you ones hey , I'm here . Hey , no , the girl a one a one where she picks him up , they all know that's later , that's later . I thought well , this is like after , this is where they start going out looking for other people .
Well , they marshal the army , yeah , and to assemble Aragorn ever . All the way goes with them and they meet at Dunn-Harrow . Okay , yeah , it's different because they marshal , they meet everybody . Eric , the great company , arrives .
What's the great ?
company , the Rangers of the north and the sons of Elrond . Oh okay , one of the Rangers Barragond is his name , and it's like we receive word from Galadriel that Aragorn was in need of his Kingsman , his kinsmen , basically his relatives . Yeah who are Numerian descendant , warriors like Aragorn but they're not in the movie , are they ? No , they don't show them .
I was gonna say , cuz I don't remember anything like that , but yeah they come to him and tell him from Elrond .
Well , you know , if you're in need of haste to get from point A to point B , you know , take the paths of the dead . Yeah , and that's Aragorn and them air and Legos and Gimley leave , not like in the movie .
So yes , they leave a little earlier , like I separated a little early .
Okay , they go first . They got .
They got a lot of distance to cover it would have been neat to see some of the the great company Like fighting .
Yeah , it was like a 30 man squad .
Just see it , just see the watch them go like run through the orcs Just cutting down people .
That would be pretty dope awesome . So they depart for that ? Anyone thinks they're dead because they went to the paths of dead ? Nobody ever .
Has ever come back when they mentioned that in the movie that nobody ever returns . So yeah .
So they're like well , we're screwed . So then the orcs assemble that . I was gilly . If you got Gotham , I did it with all the rotten crap on his face .
No , if I remember right , in the book he's only like mentioned like once or twice , but here he's like the general leading the army and the book Gotham , I guess the Lord of all the Bell Rugs .
Well , no they , they created Gotham I as like an orc , like in charge kind of figure , like they did with lirts .
Well , I'll show you , I know got one was the Lord of the Bell Rugs and like some really in . But I thought like if there's an orc called Gotham I that has like a one-line mention that he's just like In honor , like named the same , or something like that probably . Some names are .
A lot of names are reused .
Well , I was just thinking that maybe I read that somewhere , but he's just like a one-line , like he's leading the army .
Well , the witch King is , well he's leaving the orcs on the ground . He's , he's on the general command stuff . Yeah that the witch King is supreme allied commander in the field .
But yeah , so they line up , they start , you know , marching towards , oh well , now they assemble in the city .
Faramir gets sent that's with the rest of his men to try to retake the city when you get the Most disgusting display of someone eating in a movie Since Faramir to his death yeah well , he doesn't die , but everybody else does . Yeah , he's and then they fair me his horse .
Dragged him by Leonard .
I'm gonna say the horse's name was Leonard .
Seriously no .
Oh , leonard , leonard , the horse is general redond's horse from .
Elden ring .
Oh yeah the horse's name is Leonard , the scrawny little steed .
I did not know that .
Just a side note . If you're favorite you heard that in trivia you could tell us you heard it here first . If you didn't know , he brings it back . The army then departs Osgiliath to Ministereth okay which I mean , you could see it , they're very geographically close To begin the siege and eventual destruction of Ministereth .
No and that's when Denethor , like they bring Faramir and they're like , oh , he's dead . And Pippin's like he's just , he's really unconscious , he's in a coma , he's been shot with multiple arrows and one of them was poisoned . He needs medical attention , he needs a doctor . And and Denethor has his like meltdown .
Then he like looks over the wall and sees all the orc army in the distance , in the drums , and he's just like , yeah , and Gandalf comes up and just beats the crap out of him with like a one , two , three combo .
Just like when he turns around again , I'm just like crack , like hits him right the forehead .
He's like oh , and then he checks him in the gut and he's like wow , and it's like nope , we're fighting this out .
Yeah , they think . I think Gainor get on his horse .
He's like running down to the gate trying to get all the men turn around like they're like launching the Heads of the guys that they had just killed into the city .
Yeah , that was pretty gruesome .
Yeah , I was like , oh , and then they start launching with the Trebuchets and taking stuff out of an asco , fly in and just rip all the Trebuchets out . Yeah , it's like that was a , that was a dick move .
You have the one , it's not .
how dare they have air support ?
Well , before they take out the Nazgul , take out the Trebuchets . You have the one that gets . I mean , they throw a bunch of stones and stuff that but you have the one where God just stands there and tells everybody not to move .
And it's like coming right out when they all just are standing around him like like they look like everybody fans off of him and he's just like .
That's all orcs . Look at him like .
He's like , yeah , it's bits on it . And then when I believe we cut back to Frodo salmon go where they're going up and Sam ain't having it anymore . He's fed up . A go , well cuz it . Yeah , it was a false , is he ? Hears him ? He was asleep , falls asleep . Golem steals all the lumbus bread they had left . Sprinkle some crumbs as evidence on Sam's hood .
I didn't find this very , very dumb that Frodo believes it , but I know he's under the influence of the ring .
Yeah , I'm gone , we you know . Just in his ear the entire time . So they have their pow , wow , meltdown . Frodo kicks Sam out off the team ,
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which is like he is the team exactly like . Realistically , we should have just gave the ring to Sam .
Well , yeah , he wouldn't have made it if Frodo doesn't argue that Sam doesn't literally carry from literally exactly .
Like the weight of the world was on Sam's back and he was chugging along happy as can be . So yeah , mr Sam , so we go through that . They make it through the to the tunnel when golem just like golem shakes Frodo and then he finds the webs and then she lob , yeah .
And then Frodo's like yeah , you know , with the light , swinging a sword wildly like a lunatic , and then he stumbles his way out , meets golem . They fight Frodo like somersault , kicks him off the mountain . Yeah everything and disappears no question , real quick .
She lob , she's in the shadow of war game and she or shadow of Mordor , yeah . Does she actually have that power to transform ? Okay , no , I think I got all the games you transform the actual person . Yeah , but no , I wasn't sure she turns like a smoking hot .
It's like Sauron's like you know side piece . Yeah , no , no , no , no that . None of that . None of that in the book , no , that in the movie . And then you get like the eerie crap where everybody's got to sit there like on edge because you're watching .
She lob like , come out like Like super stealth , yeah , and just stalk Frodo and they just turns is like Like who's that ? Then ? Is someone prowling around here oh , must be the wind and they turns Defocated on himself .
That scene went on a little too long , with him doing the foamy mouth .
He just drops , yeah , and she's like oh .
I hate spiders , you just see oh yeah .
And then you hear like the epic fellowship music you know like , and Sam comes out with the phyla Galadriel like gleaming like a lightsaber and Frodo sword , and it's just like let him go . It's like everybody's like Sam , yeah . So Sam fights , she lob beats , she lob Sam is like I would have cried I'm not fighting a giant spider .
Oh , yeah , yeah , of course I mean .
I mean , if I had like a flamethrower or like a minigun , like Blaine and predator , maybe the minigun give me that . Or like give me like a light machine gun , though you know , I got him 60 belt fed .
Oh , I was gonna ask is real quick how does golem know she lob and where she's at ?
They had met right previously . Golem had mm-hmm , they had like a loose agreement . Golem lure Like orcs okay there when he was looking for the ring .
But that's not the movie , right ?
like you don't see that like golem , went to morto to look for the ring . Yeah just to try to find it , see if it was there and steal it . Okay , but that hit .
He had already had a prior Relationship with she lob okay , that's why his plan is just like you know , oh , she lob will kill him and then when she just spoke , like she's not gonna eat the clothes or their bones and all that stuff . It's like you'll just search the clothes in the corpse for the ring and just get it that way .
Okay , what's on my mind ? I was like how he just knew where she was . It everything about her .
I mean I did miss the part where Sam's going down the stairs and he finds the lembas bread , yeah , and the leaves , and realizes what golem did and he like looks up . He's like , shows up , saves Frodo's bacon . Defeat . She lob Sam . Thanks for those , dad .
Sam sees the sword glow blue , which you think you'd be glowing blue the entire damn time at this point . Yeah , exactly , they're in Mordor like you're in , like work New York City . So Sam takes the sort , takes the file , takes the ring .
Cuz he assumes it Frodo's dad .
They don't show Sam take the ring in the movie , yeah , but Sam takes it . The works are like oh she love got another one's like , but he's not dead . It's like unconscious . He's in like a coma . It's like bring him back to the tower . And then they absconded Frodo and Sam's like not dead , damn it .
We say cuz the orcs like you Was something like a .
Fish or something like that but yeah with their sound when they move the cheese . The latter you watch me . The more you can hear it , the more prevalent it is like Nasty , nasty beings . Then we believe we cut back to air going .
Third in the gang were there like add the Cliffs , overlooking like the encampment for the Calvary , for Rohan , for the row here , and you see , like a shadow we figure riding up air goons having a dream it's not going well . He's out in a nightmare .
Oh , yeah , yeah about a our way .
He sees the even star necklace drop and explode and he wakes up pulling a dagger . It's just like a guard outside , like the king . The king wants to talk to you .
He's just glad that he wasn't standing closer .
And he goes in and , like air going , walks in and they didn't talk into the hooded person who you don't see yet and he looks at air goons . Just like I take my leave , he just walks out of his own tent . It's like I don't like you get out to .
You go out there and talk now , why doesn't this hooded person which is Elrond , why don't I got understand ? Like I know they plan on leaving , but why don't they fight ?
Because I don't want to their strength was so depleted by that point , like a lot of their look , we need numbers . Like a lot of their power was like leaving them , but they need numbers doesn't that I have the top to time of the else was over man . This was the legless this is the maker break . No , I mean , it was leaves eventually .
Yeah , but he stays in fights .
Yeah , he's part of the fellowship , but the most are the else , the other leave a bitch , that's just . This is what it is , except the fact .
But they needed the help .
Yeah , we know , we gave , we gave , we donated heavily last time and for the three ages before this .
Another question what would the dwarves doing during this whole time ? Because I know game limit mentions something about , like you know , if we had some dwarves , yeah , I think it's some of the Legion of dwarves fully on to filthy . Well , yeah , Well . What were they doing ?
They're fighting at the lonely mountain in Dale .
Yeah , but like all of them .
Yeah , they're besieged like day nine , foot killed . They're having their own full-scale military operation happening out there . Okay , just wondering and then Eragorn , you know , stand in there and Elron stands up . I don't know where he was hiding the sword because he's sitting and he stands up . You can't tell .
I don't know where that thing was , yeah , and then he tells , he tells Eragorn the movie about the paths of the dead and he's like murderous traces , like the answer to no one . And then Elron , you know , swooshes the Cape , pulls out the sword . He's like the answer to the king of gondor .
No , and then I was nothing else . I asked you .
Eragorn already had the sword at this point . Eragorn's had the sword in the books since fellowship other than like prophecy ?
What was so special about the Sword ?
was a sword that cut the ring off Salron's hand . I mean that's , it's like it didn't have any and it was reforged by elves , for you know , it's Plus 10 . Okay like buffs .
What was later on the sword , because later on , like the ghost , can't strike through it .
So I was just wondering which doesn't happen in the book .
Okay .
Eragorn goes through when they leave . They go to the paths of the dead . They find the gate Eragorn Legals and give me go inside . They meet the dead king Person and it's like we suffer no one but the king of gondola . We suffer no one to pass and everyone's like you're gonna suffer me today . And he goes to swing out and he catches it with his actual .
He catches the ghost sword with his sword and then gives him the business . But in the book they marched through an Eragorn like tells them like who he is in the oath and the fun . Then they march and the dead follow them out .
Okay , so it's a lot little , lot less back and forth in the book .
Yeah , there's a lot less back in them . There's . There is no back and forth . He shows up and like the ghost , I go like release us . That's like , and he commands them to follow him and he'll release them .
And then they're like the journey that they had to go on from where they were to how they got and intercepted the fleet To steal the fleet and sail back to minister it . That was like . They're like no journey of weariness had ever been seen or accomplished .
Well , I do like that in the extended version you actually see them go after the fleet and get the ships , because in the regular version you just see them arrive in the ship . Yeah but so , speaking of the ships , what are the black ships Like ? Who were they ?
Those are the black and orange .
Okay from umbar okay , I want sure , because , like in the movie , they just say they're black ships .
I didn't know . The corsairs of umbar is what they're called .
Okay , so they just basically steal their fleet .
Okay , we cut back to the defense of ministereth , when they're fighting all day . Fight rages on at night . They you're just watching piles and piles of orcs die in front of the gates of ministereth . Yeah , and then they're like . You know , I bring in the big day . It's too strong , nothing will breach it . And God's mark turns , it goes . Grond will breach it .
And then , like and like , they all smile . It's like bring up the wolf's head . You just use gigantic thing like this wolf with flames coming out of its mouth and claws being pulled by Lord knows what the hell those things were .
And not all the orcs are just like chanting like I hit in the ground with their weapons , going like God , and they Gandalf looks someone goes , damn it .
So Then they breach the gate and in the movie they , when they breach the gate , on the third hit the gates , fly open , and then Gandalf stand there pepping up the boys and then the armored trolls come running in with maces .
Yeah , and even again I was like oh crap . Like . Just like swing their clubs and wipe out like five men yeah it's like not fair not fair .
Yeah , then the book they're a little overpowered . In the book , the witch king is the first one who walks in okay , well , yeah , then the screwed bed way too .
He comes in first and Like is at that point , like in minister's history , no enemy had ever set foot where he was and he shows he has the crown because he's a witch king and where his head is his flames . Yeah which is cool .
Okay , so not just like a dark abyss in the eyes , stuff is like a flaming .
It's basically flames with a crown on it . All right robed in black and armor on a horse .
Well , cuz like in the movie , pippin tells Gandalf that the they're about to kill Faramir and they run off . And that's when the witch king shows up and like challenges Gandalf , right there .
Yeah , so in the book that happens there and then that's Pretty much close to when God Rohan shows up in the movie . They fight to the next day . I mean , which King still doing which King stuff ? Well , I don't fight through the night . They're fighting to the day . They basically they lost the first level of the city of seven .
Um Denethor loses his mind , he's gonna burn Faramir alive . Pippin has to fight his way down to the city to get to Gandalf to tell him Gandalf has to rush to go . Do that . I Believe he's sitting . I doesn't say farmer . First they're going to go and then that's when he runs into the witch right .
And then which King destroys which ?
came , pulls out the sword . His sword catches fire , and then it's
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like it was almost like a black hole , like air started getting sucked into it . Yeah and then Gandalf , staff explodes , yeah , and it's like , ooh , which King tough .
But then when the when Rohan shows up , I like how they're their calvary sight runs through the orcs . That's the coolest thing .
I , I cry every single time . I watch that whole scene .
I mean , they just I don't like sob , I tear up they tear , tear through them until like the big oh , oh , because you hear the horn and like the witch King , like stops and he hears it again .
He like looks over his shoulder , he like looks back again , duff , like I'll be back . He's right there , he flies away . You see the horns , yeah , and like even gasoline horns . And then it's like and you see the on the crest of the hill , them show up thousands of . And then Fanny gives like the best speech in the entire trilogy .
Oh , yeah , they all start chanting death , death .
Yeah , they're also shouting death and then charge , and then the road here , music kicks in and they're like you know , the orcs will like you know , all right , yeah , we got our spears ready and they're like all right , fire . And they're like Fire , it will keep you fire , oh , faster .
And they're right , they just cut to a mirror just like screaming , like a maniac with a spear in his hand , and it's just like yeah , and then just Smack right into him and it's the coolest thing and they're doing . The whole theater was ready to run through the wall .
When I saw it they're doing well . Until the the all was , they're called the elephants , right that comes afterwards this bit we have the offense . Hadn't shown up yet . What's I'm saying ?
the , the harajam , hadn't shown up yet .
The wrong Rohan soldiers and stuff that I mean they're just tearing through them , oh , they were owning until eventually .
They were about to drive to the other side , to the , to the seat until eventually .
The giant elephants show up with their people .
Which I mean they just come guns blazing Duke . You know Butch casting the Sundance kid style , taking out everybody cleaving their way through , and it's going great for him . And then we got it . You know Gimli , not gimme . Who am I talking about ? Gandalf and Mary Pippin bust in stop fair mirror from being burned alive by his father .
He's like standing , he's got a pile and , like Pippin's , pushing him into the fire . Finally heave him over the edge and he gets . Fair me out , puts him out . Denithor is also partially on fire .
Like I don't thought , it's just like standing there willing to die in the place . Yeah , you idiot .
You are a whack-o and he was bringing life . He runs from there , from the sedative , all the way across like that gigantic spike or spire On the top of minister earth , and he eats himself off .
I should have had the wheel hum , scream .
And then it cuts to the row . Here I'm just kicking butt out there , taking everybody out , and then you hear , like the they're the big floods . And you hear , like them , the harajam chanting , and it cuts a fade and he's like yeah . He's like make safe the same thing . They hear you like Like one of the offense , doesn't an elephant noise ?
And like , as the sword crosses his face , his face falls and then it cuts to like the coolest crap ever , whereas , like you see , like all the elephants in the best horn I think they had best horn sound they had . As they start marching , and then they're like oh he's like what , what ? I don't know what that is Like . I don't know what that is .
I'm scared , I don't know what that is . And then Fed is like you know reform the line , and then they charge .
And now , who were these guys , though ?
The .
Harajra , yeah , where I guess they were .
They're from Haraj , the Eastern Eastern .
Look at the map . I'll put my glasses back on there . Okay , so they were just just south of Mordor , yep , okay .
So yeah , just south of uh , I don't know , there's the mountain of ash or the mountains of shadow .
Yeah , okay , that's them .
Gotcha . That's where they done came from . And then the Ali fans start wrecking them .
Yeah , well , yeah , cause they're literally like building .
And then the one dude who's , like you know , piloting the Ali fan . He's like just taking dudes out and he's like getting into it , yeah . And then air mirror like looks at him and he like flips the spear in his hand , yeah , wham . And just nails the dude in the chair Like that is a throw .
Well then he falls . He's like pulls on the air .
Yeah , the pulls like the other one , like the leash or the harness and , like the elephant , crashes into another one and takes down two and it's just like nice , nice , and then they're dealing that whole big fight . Try to remember what happens with the Frodo and Sam at this point . Well , they take Frodo to Kira Thungle .
Yeah , the orcs taking him up the staircase .
Not the thing . They strip him naked . His hands are all tied up , yeah . And they're arguing over the shiny shirt .
The shirt , the Mithril shirt . The little orc takes it and the big orc's like that's mine .
Yeah , orcs being orcs .
And then he like launches the dude down the stairs and he's just like the scum tried to knife me , kill him , and like everybody just pulls swords , like no questions asked , like fight , and then , like the gore bag is the guy's name , he literally jumps in the air , double kicks the dude in the chest and yeets him out the window and then he falls crashing into
a bunch of other orcs that were down there . They bump into each other and it's just like a bar fight .
It's just like there's nothing you can do .
And then they all kill each other . And then Sam shows up and like with the ring , like when they show him like come up the stairs Like in the books , the ring made him look like far bigger .
Okay .
And like his swords look like they were on fire or something .
Well , like when he's come up the steps , you just see a shadow , he's like , and the orcs are scared for a minute , no , I uh oh .
And then they just it's like , huh , it's a midget , get him . And then they're messing with the G .
Yeah , the Sam G .
The Sam G , the Samwise Gam G . Sam drops all of them , fights his way up , kills Gorbag , frees Frodo , gives him the back , the ring and Frodo's like it's mine .
Give it to me , give it to me .
I need it . Like a heroin , or like a heroin addict , I should say . So they go through that nonsense and I think it cuts back to the fight at Pelinor Fields . They're fighting all the people . The Witch King takes down Thed and A , when shows up , fights him , gets her arm broken because of the mace that's like the size of someone's chest .
Was it you that told me that when they were making this mace for the movie , they , like he , kept bringing it like the yeah , and Peter Jackson's like bigger , Like when in the scene where he lifts it up and you see like the chain go taut as he's lifting it off the ground , there's somebody laying out of frame at the bottom pushing it up .
I have exactly Like there's a crane pulling it out .
There's like there's a dude pulling it up and a dude at the bottom pushing it , like that thing was huge . It was the most obnoxious , ridiculous thing that they had made as a weapon , but it looks so great for the scenes they fight . He takes down A when or he breaks her shield , which explodes and , like breaks her arm .
And then Aragorn and the gang show up with the ghosts . Where the orcs are waiting for him . Yeah , and it's just like late , as usual .
He's like come on .
It's like there's enough work here that he's doing . And then it's just like you hear Aragorn like yelling , like jump off the ship as the fellowship music kicks in .
We see him and all the orcs are like oh , it's just three of them .
And then Gilmy's like there's plenty for the both of us , let the best dwarf win . And they start running . The ghost come flying out from behind him in the ship and the orcs are like yeah .
And they're like ah , it looks like a river of green that starts just traveling out . Now for the the ghosts like or did they fight like ghosts ? Like the fact that the orcs can't hit him , or something like that , or no ?
this is just gone right there on this .
So basically , there's nothing they could have done .
No , there was nothing they could have done . It was they could die . And then we have the huge fight where Pippin ends up stabbing .
You mean Mary ?
Mary stabs the witch king in the back or the back of his leg .
When he stabbed him . Why did the sword just like disappear ? Because he stabs him and then the sword just like vaporizes .
You kidding me ? It's the witch king . Okay , well , I'm sure it's magic , it's magic , okay , it's magic .
Well , I didn't know if it was a special .
The only reason it wondered them is because it was one of the swords forged by , like the men of the West . Okay , that's why it hurt him , and that's why because the prophecy was like the witch king wasn't going to be killed by a man .
Okay .
It's like , you know , there's no living man who could kill him . But he met a hobbit and a woman .
I find it very convenient .
Yeah , it sucks for him , but wrong place , wrong time .
They said no man .
But it could have been dwarf or an elf or a man Well , mary didn't kill him , he wounded him . And then a one just drives the spear right into his face .
Yeah .
Or her drives her sword right into the dude's face and rips it out and he's like crumples , like a big face . And it basically like implodes , yeah , like a crushed up soda can , and that's the end of him . And then we get the montage of Ergon , legolas and Gimli just running , trained through orcs .
Legolas comes slide .
Yeah , ollie Fletchron , it's the most like ridiculous thing , but it's like believable almost . You watch him do it and he's like , and Kim is like , just staring at him like it's still only counts as one . And he gets bad in their fight . And then they win . They win the battle , ergon .
I mean Ergon really should have been like look , I promise , but you guys can take Mordor down in like five minutes .
What I was going to say , why ? I mean , granted , you know he's just holding his into the bargain . Why does he release them then and not after they finished the fight ?
altogether . Finish the job , yeah , yeah .
That's just one battle . There's a whole war to win .
Yeah , that was a tough sell . I would have been like they'd like what are they going to do ? Yeah , you can release them , you're fine , it'll . That'll take them 10 minutes . They've been undead for hundreds of years . Yeah , but thousands of years .
Another week's not going to hurt him 10 minutes .
It's ain't nothing . Just go over there . If they look like orcs , kill them . If they look like tiny kids with curly hair , don't . All you got to do . Tell us where you found them . Tell them we know we're on our way and then you're good . That's it , You're done . Ghost handshake . You know by guns , be by guns .
Yeah , it was kind of strange that he just like let's go of his
¶ Lord of the Rings Storyline Discussion
most powerful weapon that he could have had .
No , it is what it is . All right , that's the movie , it's the story .
Yeah .
It's the story . He cuts them loose . Frodo and Sam decide to cross the plains of Korgoroth , and it's the land and mortar disguises orcs .
Oh , that's right . Yeah , they put on the whole outfit .
They find a win , realize she's hurt . Aragorn goes in the city , heals him , heals Aelyn and Faramir , restores them back to health . And we got to go through like that whole little like , oh like montage of Aragorn being a healer , which , in the butt , like the side of the retain of the King , is that he's a healer .
Okay , and because Aragorn's , you know , awesome and a very skilled man of many things .
Gotcha . Okay , sorry , lost my train of thought . I was going to ask you uh , why can only a woman kill the like ? Kill the witch king , like what I mean ? Just it was prophesied by , by Glorfen , though I mean just because it was prophecy , or yeah , it's the prophecy .
Okay , it's the prophecy . I wasn't sure if it was like it's like his death won't come at the hands of man .
Okay , I wasn't sure if it was like something special , like Sauron made it to where I want , you know , because he wouldn't assume women .
I would women have swords . Yeah , it's ridiculous . There's men , there's elves . Obnoxious , ridiculous , preposterous , outrageous .
And then I'm going to ask you earlier , when uh uh , aragorn and Elrond talk they're talking about that are ones like he says , like didn't he say like she's dying , or something like that ?
Her life force is fading . I mean obviously because she's went from immortal to mortal but like he's like her , life force is tied to the fate of the ring .
Exactly , that's what I'm saying . Why was it ? Why is that the thing ?
Like . While the ring survives , her health will wane . But why ?
How is she tied to the ring ?
I don't know . Okay , I really don't . I think it was looking like a movie thing .
Okay , well cause I was wondering . I was like what , what connection does she ?
directly have to the ring . So they don't talk about that in the book .
Okay .
That's just some moving on sense . So then Aragorn reveals himself to Sauron on the with the Palantir in the book you actually like . Rip Sauron from it , okay , where he can't sub , subjugate anybody to it to his will . It's under Aragorn's will now Okay . Cause they're rightfully his . Yeah , he reclaimed . It's my bow and I'm going home .
And then the other even start necklace like unclaps itself magically and falls and explodes on the floor , like in his dream . And then they have their you know war council where they know , like you know , frodo is inside Mordor and it's like you know , it's like we can't beat him with strength of arms .
Like yeah , we can draw Sauron's attention long enough for him to cross the planes and make it to Mount doom and like , oh , a diversion or a diversion . And Kimmy's like certain do death , small chance of success . What are we waiting for ? And then Aragorn like suits up and kingly stuff now , Cause he's accepted that he's going to be king .
You know it's a very bad plan , Cause they don't know .
No , this is going for they had no idea where Frodo was .
They have no idea .
But I mean good timing , good timing Just just saying , oh , that's a bad plan . Frodo and Sam are pretending to be orcs . They get roped in with the rest of the orcs . They start a fight , they escape or they slip away , cause orcs love a good fight , and then they make it ditch their stuff and they start walking to Mount doom .
And then Frodo collapses cause they're like you can see like the ring , like the necklaces , like tearing into his skin at this point cause it ring weighs so much , and then he collapses .
Sam carries him up the hill and .
Sam carries him up the hill , which is like the coolest thing ever , and so they may get Aragorn and the gang meet the mouth of Sauron
¶ Lord of the Rings - The Ending
, who's a black Numenorian .
I was like that was one of my questions , like who is like what ?
Yeah , even the books . This is like his name's not remembered any tell cause he's he forgot him himself .
Okay .
He's just a mouth of Sauron . He's Lieutenant of Baradour . He was actually supposed to take over Orthank once Sauron won and Saruman was given the move because like he's in this one scene that's all you ever see the character , but he seems like he's in the book . Aragorn doesn't kill him .
He like , runs away and then assumed to be killed during the destruction of Mordor .
Okay .
Whereas he's talking crap , Aragorn walks up and he's given Aragorn the business and Aragorn just cuts his head off . Then they get surrounded at the black gate and Aragorn the gang . You know Aragorn gives a good speech . Yeah , it's a good speech . It's not fade in speech . Everybody was enchanting death .
Cause . Then they knew death was coming .
Sam's carrying Frodo , aragorn's like standing at the eye Sauron , and the eye Sauron's like standing by and he's like what is this ? He's like his oldest thing . And then Aragorn turns and looks , and another tearjerker , epic moment .
And he just turns and looks at all of them and goes for Frodo and then charges as the music's like , and then the first two to follow him are Mary and Pippin , who take off running , and then everybody else like I guess if they're going to go , we should all go . So they begin the big fight .
Sam , still carrying Frodo Golem , shows back up and tackles them . Frodo suddenly , with strength to move , starts going for the the he's like the .
He's like the granddad out of Willy Wonka .
Yeah .
He's just all of a sudden .
Yeah , now it's a golden ticket . He starts going . Sam slashes Golem across the abdimentary and tries to catch up to Frodo . Catches up to Frodo . While they're in there , aragorn and the gang are fighting it out . Times are desperate . The Eagles show up .
Finally they're taking out all the Nazgul , or part of the Nazgul , back to Golem and Aragorn , or back to golem , sam and Frodo . Golem shows up chaos . Sam upside the head with a rock and knocks him out . Frodo claims the ring , puts it on and they're like Sam's like . No , no , golem tackles them , bites off his finger .
Bites his finger off .
And once Frodo puts on the ring and claims it as his Sauron , you know his eyes like bug out and he suddenly turns and looks at the at Mount Demgz , realize like and the book is just like it was the culmination of thousands of years of planning it just suddenly ripped from and like the sheer panic and terror that suddenly went over him as he realized what
had happened and how much danger he was now in it's like . It's like you are screwed , buddy , and the remaining Nazgul go hauling you know , but try to get there . Golem bites the ring off of Frodo's finger , or bites Frodo's finger off and takes the ring , doesn't put it on , he's just happy he's got it . He's holding him and Frodo wrestle for it .
They fall off the edge . Frodo's still holding on , go Falls into the lava .
He's happy because he has the ring as he falls oh .
Yeah , finally he got it back . After all this crap he had to go through , he got it back . He had to bite someone's finger off so he falls . He eats it . Ring is in the lava now . He helps Sam helps Frodo get out .
The ring melts , siren starts freaking out and all the orcs are like oh , they take off running well , I like how , after this happens like everything starts collapsing around all the orcs because they couldn't destroy the foundation to Baradour while the ring was still intact . This bit of like get rid of it all .
And then and then also like the Sauron's Tower , just like a green blast that shoots out . Oh , this was a little earlier , sorry he should . I'll ask you about that .
one get done , because I was out , I'm I mean the tower collapses , sauron's eyes like wigging out , and then it like and explodes and launches everything Okay and then like yeah . Yeah but he's cheering . The orcs are running away and falling in the giant pit of despair , and then the volcano explodes and they're all like ooh , Oregon , Oregon , Oregon .
Oregon , washington .
Eric , or seeing you . Basically they all see like exploding and they all kind of get sad like oh .
They died for a great cause and then turns out they live , they're on the rock , they get rescued , they get .
People say could have just flown them there .
Finally show up and take them back finally , yeah , the Eagles go , they rescue them . They brought multiple Eagles . There's three Eagles one for Frodo , one for Sam and one for Gollum .
Oh , we're gonna save gollum .
They didn't know if gollum was gonna , like , be Smeagol or if he was gonna be gollum . He chose to be gollum , but they brought him a ride , just in case he was there . Okay , it's been like .
There's nothing we could do .
It's too late , Well you do us and call duty . I didn't get a blush . There's nothing we could do , nothing , nothing at all .
Look , I do what I have to .
So the detriment of the entire team . Anyway , they get brought back . They get nurse to hell they have , they're all . Yeah , we're all back together again , except Barma , he's dead . He didn't come back .
I like how , with when Frodo wakes up and looks at Gandalf , he says like this kind of creepy laugh and not like head shaking nods I don't laugh .
I'm like we did it . I can't believe that worked . Like wow , this was a , this was a hell of a 13 months and legless .
Looks at you know , frodo , for , like , maybe the third time .
Yeah , frodo , the two of them never talked to each other . Well , that's what I said somebody except for when Legos directly tells him Like , you have my back .
Like words and he speaks directly to Frodo literally . I'm just funny yeah .
Eric orn's coronation . He's made king . They all show up with Liv , tyler or Arwen as like a wedding present . Yeah , eric orn's Lee , that's a great present they make out . They're walking down .
You know everybody's bowing like yeah , yeah , things are gonna be good , I have to say , this whole scene is like this one .
This is me a little when they get to the hobbits and they nail and then Eric orn's like no , you don't need anybody . And then they Neal to them for what they did and then they go back to the Shire . Sam gets with the blonde hot hobbit girl bartender .
When she's actual wife . No , I thought now what he's holding like the kid .
That's his actual kid .
I knew somebody was his actual family members .
I don't remember which one was Okay and then Frodo departs with Gandalf , shadow facts , elron Kelleborn , galadriel Curedan and the three remaining rings of power to the undying lands , gotcha , and then later in the Sam , I think is the last one to go .
We'll talk about that later . Okay , so that's pretty much the end of the movie .
That's yes , and they sail off . That's it . Roll credits Okay or no . Sam gets back and it's like you know I'm home again , like it's like he goes and closes the door to back in and it's like the end .
Okay , well , what I was gonna ask you when I was talking about there's a green blast that goes out of Sauron's Tower . It's when they are getting ready to .
Like the beacon that , it's like the signal time to go the signals .
Go time boys like in the interceptor . Go , go , all right . And also , I was gonna ask you the witch king , what made him better than all the other Nazgul , like , just what ? Like , why'd he get labeled ?
It's like the witch king of anymore . He's like the most brutal , sadistic Okay , lunatic evil person .
I wouldn't share like there was ?
he was the commander of the Nazgul . He was in charge .
Okay .
He was the most powerful of the Nazgul .
Well , cuz like nothing really in , at least in the movie . Nothing separates them . Until that one point to me . So I wasn't sure . And Then another thing I was gonna ask you is like it seems like the elves at different points , can they , can they tell the future or a possible future ?
Well , Ron has the gift of foresight .
Okay , well , cuz Legolas acts like he kind of does too , and they can kind of like .
I guess it's kind of looks like they can kind of see like events that might happen . Okay , I Like this could go well , this could go bad . They see kind of like all of it .
Okay , I know , was when Legolas they're walking into the city of the dead area , mm-hmm , he kind of like mentioned stuff , like he knows what's going on and he could see things the others can't stuff .
I well , yeah , I was can . Okay , see like .
I was just wondering that's that's what I was gonna ask him in a different way . And then why was the , the dimholt mountain , considered evil just because that's where the that's ?
where the mountain kingdom guys lived . They had sworn fealty to a seal door is that where they were before they died ?
Yeah , okay .
And to help Gondor and in time of need , if a seal door called for them and he did , and Then they were like no , we're not going . And the seal door cursed them to Never rest until they fulfilled their oath to Gondor .
And then I already kind of asked you why , why the elves were so ready just to leave Middle Earth , all the danger that was coming .
Yeah , they were done . They didn't have the power to fight them anymore and have the numbers that they had before . Okay , like you got first-age elves , mm-hmm , and that's like Goku , like Super Saiyan , god , ultra Instinct , kyo-ken on steroids and coke .
Let's tell that Elron and Gledreel .
That's two people . They had armies of millions . These are the dudes that fought Balrogs and one . Now I mean , you know they , they weren't ready for this .
Yeah , no other question I had was like a one when she , after she , kills the witch king , what she ? It's like she's almost dead when Ereborn shows up to heal her .
Like what happens like a , like a sickness that she gets from fighting the witch king .
Okay , well , I was sure I was like she's just like all of a sudden kind of dead when she was fine , after she stabbed him in the , you know , in the scene . So Okay , that's all the questions I had , okay . I had a lot less questions than this one , than I did the other one .
It's been an hour and ten minutes . I feel like we I mean we got through a four-hour movie in an hour . That's not bad .
Well , if you watch the extended version , which I would recommend , only watch the extended editions .
Yeah , there's no reason to watch theatrical versions anymore .
You watch the extended editions and it's 12 and a half hours .
In nonsense .
But they're worth it Are they , though .
They are kind of sort of .
I mean it's a good movie regardless , but it's even better it is .
It's so much better . It's just chef's kiss . But I guess that was it for this episode . Yeah , I've entertained this . I'll be on I'm Tom .
I'm .
Mitch , and we'll see you next week . Bear bear I summon you to fulfill your oath . None but the king of gondola command me . I'm so sharp that line was broken .
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