ET! THROWBACK: Exploring Fear and the Psychology Behind It

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Do you want me to turn the music back on ?

In some sort of remembrance way .

Reverse strategy Well hello everyone , welcome to Entertain this . An episode , uh , 36 yep , which is um . This podcast is about movies , tv show and video games . Guys , it's only been 36 weeks , um . My name is hayden .

And what movies are scientifically proven to be the scariest ?

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You should get all that tattooed to the palm of your hand .

It's probably about the only way I'm going to find that piece of paper .

It has all the passwords and everything on it .

I've only lost it twice .

We'll get it down . I mean we'll get it down I know it's at the house somewhere It'll be like the Pledge of Allegiance before you know it , you'll just have it memorized .

Stand up , salute , put your hand over your heart .

Mitch , plug the social media , all right . So , mitch , you got punished again . Surprise , surprise A grand institution on this show . Talk to us about your terrible , horrible punishment .

This horror of a punishment , Tom you struck out . It was really not that bad . I think you get it confused with like High School Musical or something .

All I know is I know you don't like musicals . I thought , this would make it , you know .

This they song and stuff in it , but it was more like just like a almost like a teen comedy Song song , sing songs , whatever Sing more like just like a teen comedy song song , sing songs , whatever sing-a-ling-a-ding songs . But uh , you know they sung a couple of songs that you know it was like 80s rock or whatever .

So they want to get the jock guy to join the club . You know .

Yeah , they said that to get people into the league club they needed popularity . Popular kids will follow other kids , or , you know , kids will follow the popular kids . So he hears this one kid singing like in the background somewhere , so he goes and looks and it's like the star football player . So he kind of asked him to join and he says no .

It's not something I would have chosen to watch myself , but it wasn't bad to watch you know it's a crappy punishment , like in hindsight , when whoever has to watch it becomes a fan well , like uh , there's one part where the husband goes home and his wife comes in .

She goes honey , I just can't work and cook dinner . I work three , four hour shifts a week at bed , bath and beyond and it's it's like a knockoff for the tv show , it's like a knockoff brand or whatever . But she's complaining about her three , four hour , or , yeah , three , four hour shifts a week that she has to work .

I just she sounds like a real winner yeah , I thought it was weird when I got here because I could just faintly hear you sing and don't stop believing in your car With no music . He was just going for it .

For the show . It started in 2009, . Ended in 2015 . Although it does kind of have a depressing thing about it . Three of the stars have died . I think one committed suicide I don't know if it was one or the other two were in drugs .

One had child pornography charges that he pled guilty to and then killed himself after that . Yeah , One died from . They called it a toxicology mishap . Basically , he screwed around with drugs and no deed .

And then you had the one female that died actually this year . Evidently she was out on a boat with her and her little three-year-old . They found the three-year-old on the boat . Evidently she had gotten drunk or high on drugs or whatever and fell into the water . It's kind of depressing .

I would be looking at those producers like what kind of environment are you guys fostering ? Are these ?

people like the 1994 Chargers or something . Yeah they were a little rough , but football fans out there , you know what I'm talking about .

Yeah , it wasn't too bad . Like I said , it's not something I would watch , but I gave it a five out of 10 because I'm a little bit All right next time you're going to watch Cats again .

In like French . Yeah , it went horrible .

You can see why it would be on TV and it would continue . How many seasons , I think it was six seasons Interesting . So All right , cool Punishment review done . If you have any horrible movies or TV shows or video games and you're better at this than Tom is um , throw it on our social medias and uh , we'll .

Tom's use the shotgun approach I've . I've gotten so many uh from him .

That's the problem . Like we punished you so many times , it's like I'm grasping for straws .

Some are bound to be not not bad punishments .

So you know , throw us a bone if you have any

Now , yeah , the remake , it was the only thing rams that's a good one .

So this , this one Army of the Dead is about a group of mercenaries that plan a LA heist no , a Las Vegas heist amidst a zombie outbreak . So there , that's the premise .

Why would you steal money during the zombie outbreak ?

Well , I think they were in the midst of stealing money and then zombies . So that's another thing is , people are always living their life in zombie films and then the outbreak like in shawn on the dead . He's like going through a breakup with his fiancee and then bam , zombie outbreak . Um , they've had some casting issues .

See , I would do that , but , like all the scenes where Chris D'Elia's character is with other people , I wouldn't change it . What do you mean ? I'd just leave him in the movie and do the standalone cuts with that other dude and just not explain it to anybody .

Oh , like , who's this guy ?

Who's that ?

Let's see here . That's basically it . The most famous person involved in the project is Dave Bautista . He's going to be the star . Next is Ella Purnell . I don't know who she is . She's from Miss Peregrine's movie . Some Peregrine , home for something . Children .

Oh yeah , foster's Home for Imaginary , friends , yeah that .

But that's basically it .

Everybody else is kind of Dave Bautista's been in a lot of stuff recently . He's been busy .

He's chasing a rock and a whole . Like I can do everything

That's because he officially retired from wrestling like two years ago , so now he's fully into his acting yeah With his being Drax and Stuber .

We'll see where they go . You know is the zombie film , is that ? Is that ran out ?

is dude you know , is anybody tired of that ? Yet not , if it's done , well , what is ?

well , though I mean like , are we like ?

you can't have like the cheesy effects and all that . If I see that it's like immediately time to turn it off . It's got to be , you know something , all right . So it's got to be something decent , it's got to have some substance .

Here's my problem with zombie films . They've become so prevalent in our culture . Everybody knows what a zombie is . Kids know what zombies are . They're in cartoons , they're in Minecraft , they're in movies , tv shows , are

They can't be at home . Like you remember the , the movie with owen wilson where the no escape , where he's in like china or taiwan or something yeah , I think I know you're talking about .

I think that eventually it's going to get played out Like the Marvel the MCU and all these Marvel movies and comic book movies . I think that you know they're going to go on forever , because comic books are just another form of medium that you can explore different ideas and characters .

And there's different versions of stories , different things you can tell Zombies . It's that's that's just .

It's its own story and eventually you can only tell it so many times before it gets redundant yeah you know , and the most self-damning thing about the zombie franchise is it's a . There's a trope in film where you cannot call zombies zombies . It's considered cliche at that point . You know , except that one movie .

I don't think so . I don't remember what they called them in Dawn of the Dead . Like the Walking Dead , they're walkers .

I just want one dude to walk in and say to the Walking Dead and be like , oh my goodness , a zombie and everybody's like what ?

I want them to say it , and then everybody just kind of go zombie .

Zombie , that just kind of go zombie . Zombie , that's an appropriate word . All right um the movie .

I want to review tucker and dale versus evil .

The reason why , the reason why I chose this movie is because it's a comedy horror movie , and the reason why it's so funny is it plays entirely off of the tropes of horror film . One of the another version of tropes is that there's always a bumbling dumb redneck who is either the killer or a victim . Okay , and is it Tucker ?

They just want to hang out .

And next , thing , you know , they get so creeped out that just a series of events happen and the kids accidentally start killing themselves While trying to kill them . They try to kill them . They trip and fall on their own spear .

The kids do everything to themselves .

They think it's the murder , the other people trying to murder them .

These kids are trying to kill themselves , these poor rednecks .

Dale is played by Alan Tudyk . If you see his picture he's like hey , it's that one guy .

It's the pirate guy from Dodgeball .

Yeah , steve the pirate , he's hilarious .

A knight's tail .

Yeah , yeah , he's hilarious . He , he is a knight's tail . Yeah , yeah , he's hilarious .

They're like I've got your friend , she knocked herself out it's a hilarious movie .

It's not over the top too . If it's over the top , it's to poke fun at gore

So great movie . It's on Netflix right now . I think . I don't remember it was last time I watched it , so I don't know if it still is you could probably watch it anywhere , and if it's , it's super cheap .

It's a um 2010 film , so , um , uh , directed by you like grass , yeah and uh , they're talking about doing a sequel . Uh , according to Ellen Tudyk , the sequel script sucked , so I don't know if it's going to happen or not .

Knowing most of our listeners , though they would probably like this if they haven't seen it .

The premise for the sequel was Good .

Will Hunting meets Texas Chainsaw Massacre . That's a combination , that's .

Oscar material right there . But yeah , we'll see Great movie . I give it a 9 out of 10 just because the way they spin on your idea of horror troping it's great . All right , cool . That's it for movies . Who's got TV ?

I do what you got . Well , I'll go with what I'm reviewing . First , I tried to watch the Haunting of Bly Manor . Starting off , it's about an au pair . The manor had an au pair that had a tragic death . So they hire this new American nanny to come and look after the orphan little boy and girl that lived there .

Are you saying that there's a creepy physical location like a hotel or a man or or a insane asylum that has a heinous crime that happened in history that somehow has imprinted itself on present day people ?

it wouldn't be the first , would it ? Nope , that's that's called a trope right , it's , it's got the same or well , not not the exact same , but it's got a pretty much similar cast because it's an anthology series with the the haunting of hill house , it's the netflix series , but it's just , I don't know , it's too blah .

It's a lot of people talking and a lot of people like , oh no , my tragic history and you're just like . This is episode four and we're just discovering this mess . This is going slow .

It starts off like it's going to be good . I thought it would be , because it's pretty creepy to begin with , and then it just kind of delves into this love story and all the horror stuff kind of takes a back seat to it .

I just wasn't a fan . Yeah , it seemed like they didn't have enough material for I don't know how many episodes this season is , but it seemed like it was pretty slow .

So you know , I'm kind of over it now and I've only seen the first four episodes , but it almost almost makes like the characters . I personally think that some of them are ghosts and they just don't know it Probably the way they act and stuff . But you know , like I said , I don't know .

Some like sixth sense kind of deal .

Yeah , I've only seen episode four , so you know I might be right , might be wrong , but that's just the way it seems because they just act weird and I don't know . It seems because they just act weird . And then supposedly the series is influenced by the book the Turn of the Screw , which is supposed to be a big horror genre writer .

I didn't like the first one either . I thought the first one was stupid too . It did really well , but it's more of the same . It was just a lot of people talking and whining

That's it . I want to say this IMDB gave us like a 7.6 , but I would say probably a four , unless you just want to watch stories If you're in the anthology series and you like American Horror Story , you probably wouldn't like this either .

American .

Horror Story , just kind of like foregoes , like plot and reasonable story for just bananas crazy . This is a little bit more grounded and and reasonable . It's just slow . It's like reading like a jane austen novel or something , but um you know , just because it's a lot of people talking about their feelings and you know , whatever , all right .

we'll move on to my uh , my , news . I recently meant or well , I don't know if it's recent but I've mentioned that the rest of evil is getting a netflix series not too long ago . Well , now we kind of have a little more information about it .

They want to , you know , scare you , which is interesting because the games are actually based off of a Japanese film from the seventies .

Oh yeah , called house .

I believe that's deep in the recessive my movie knowledge .

But I might be right . So they want to . I guess they want to get that , that feel of the original kind of games back into the show . It's not going to be anything like the the movies that they're going to have all characters from the games . It's not going to be a bunch of made up people , some of the cast . They're going to have a Kaya Scandalario .

That's what you call me . It sounds like a disease that she gets .

She's going to be Claire Redfield , that's what you call me . It sounds like a disease that you get .

Crappy movie sequels . That's another horror trope .

There you go you're gonna have Hannah and John came in , which will be Jill Valentine . She was the villain in Ant-Man 2 that played like the ghost character oh , okay , she's alright . Robbie Amell will be Chris Redfield , which he was Firestorm in the Flash .

He was a dick on tarly in game of thrones um uh , I know he talked about he's talking about him and his dad , like the last season where they get burned alive by the dragons the dad was just going to take the hit so the son was Dickon Dickon he says his name and , like what's his face ?

He was also luther in umbrella academy , if you've seen that no , I never watched that well , I had to watch that for a review , but you also have uh even yogia or yoga this is netflix , right ? Yeah , he's gonna be leon kennedy . He was , uh , if you've seen zombie land double tap , he was the one that played Berkeley .

Refused to fight . He was a pacifist . That's funny . If you're used to these characters from the video games , they could be a completely different person you know , because it's a Netflix casting . If that bothers you , that might be a thing .

Leon Kennedy is the only one that I don't think he fits like the look of the character . But I mean , yeah , with makeup and a wig .

I love when they say like you know , we're getting back to our roots With like all these things . It's like we're getting back to our roots . It's like . What does that mean ?

it's like you're just trying to capitalize on stuff we really liked a long time ago and hoping we'll like this right and then , uh , the last person they have is a neil mcdonough oh yeah which is uh , he's dr birkin for the tv series damien dark . Yeah , arrow he was in minority report as one of the officers that tried to arrest Tom Cruise .

He was

Yeah .

He's doing all that stuff .

He's going to be Dr Birkin , which is like a virologist , so he's going to be one of the scientists .

Dr Durkin . So , and then the only other news I had was you know everyone that likes the mandalorian . Season two comes out october 30th . Yeah , it's about time . My son's super excited about it . Um , the baby yoda show , yeah , um , I don't know . Uh , I think a video game . Uh into tv movie adaptations .

I think that that's uh , I think it'd be better than movie adaptations because they can flesh out the characters and the stories a little better , hopefully .

Especially like 90s video games .

There's not a lot of plot to them . I mean , there's a lot of story in Resident

There is now , but it's based off of an origin that's just kind of stretched out to begin with . Maybe they can revamp it somehow . I'm not saying I know for a fact , but it's just typically in the past . Yeah , so video games , I play them , yeah .

So my review is something we've talked about briefly , but I want to bring it up because of new consoles and et cetera is coming out and they postponed release dates .

The .

Master chief collection , specifically halos one and two , okay , which we had talked about the other day . Halo one and two was pretty much like the Genesis of greatness for most of us in our video game playing careers . Yeah , it was like the introduction to first person shooters for a lot of people .

No , I haven't .

I , just I've played the remastered .

I've played them . I think I just Remastered and whatever , I'm not all about it . I'm playing through them with my son right now because he's super into it . So when I get to Halo 2 , I'll take more note .

I like playing Halo 2 . I think that's the only one that I haven't beaten , though .

Halo 2 . Halo 2 is like the hardest one to beat .

I just haven't played it all the way through .

In my opinion , it's the best out of all the Halo games . It is the best .

Because I was playing it with Pez , because he had bought it , and we were playing Halo 2 , and we were playing some of the stuff from Halo 1 , and it was like this is amazing and I want to play this all day . I want to get back into this . That was a big part of our lives .

Halo 2 definitely felt like it was a little bit more serious well , that's the story , with the arbiter and all that .

Yeah , that was a good halo .

1 was just stupid like captain keys .

You know , give this man a weapon , you know and he gives him his pistol , he goes I don't keep it loaded . It's like why do you have it ? It's a paperweight .

It's the stupid lines that people say Holy crap , it's the Master Chief .

Can I have your autograph sir ?

Yeah , halo , 1 was just like it was funny and fun as a kid , but like as an adult , you're like ugh .

Oh , it was just like the little grunts that run around going ahhh .

Trying to run away Halo 2 , the story was really , really good . There's a lot of backstory and stuff they introduced . This is why things are happening . I think that was probably the best Halo game . Halo 3 was like a cruise control . Let's just finish out this little series of plot that we had .

Yeah , I don't remember Halo 3 at all . I beat it probably twice , but I think the most I remember out of Halo 3 is multiplayer 3 is where they introduced the brutes , isn't it ?

Or was that 4 ?

I think it was 2 . That's 2 .

Oh , okay , Well yeah , I played that far too so .

Because the boss in 2 was a brute right , yeah you have to beat .

Dude with the hammer . Yeah , they got the gravity hammer .

Okay , so Do you have to beat the guy with the gravity hammer .

I'm pretty sure Tartarus , tartarus Brutus Maximus Aurelius .

Tartarus , mars , chieftain of the brutes , commander of the big ape guys , hey , do you ? Mind . Hey , you want to put your phone on silent , sir .

I'm sorry that 678 never called me . I don't know who it is .

But if you live under a rock and have for the last 20 years and have not played Halo 2 , go out and buy it . Get the Master Chief Collection , play it . Play 1 and 2 . You can play 3 . 4 , just don't even bother . Delete it from your Xbox . You On to ? News Came out yesterday , or actually today , didn't it ? Warzone Zombies . It's back , so we have played .

It's out . Same thing it's out . Let me release . It came out on Monday actually . Let me release , I played some of the multiplayer .

So in the multiplayer now , like the Halloween thing um night modes , ghosts and stuff is going around , enemies got like flaming pumpkin heads . Yeah , they , they really went all out with some of that .

Yes , it's a free like if you have warzone it's this this is free and this is by far like the best part of call of duty right now , like bot or not , you know , so it's . It's the most fun . I've had playing a video game in a long . It is startling it , the they and they get you like it because , like you , play warzone .

You're pretty much like Hancock around the map .

So your strategy , your used-to strategies of this map is just out the window . You can't be like we usually play get up high , get isolated . You know that doesn't work anymore , Because they can fall from the sky .

They can just jump up , because I mean we were losing it . We fought in prison yeah , I mean there's ghosts going around . I opened a loot crate and there was like a jump scare thing , like a ghost like came out of my screen .

I almost dropped my controller well , I saw I was fixed to ask you did , how was that , uh , that ghost that appeared ? Well , I saw a blue circle and I was like what is this blue circle ?

and it comes to me . I'm like all right and face go and .

I'm like just shooting into the ceilings and stuff . It's like what are you doing ? It's like ah , it's a ghost .

You can't even explain that to your friends , you're just like I don't know .

It happened to me opening a loot crate and it didn't happen to you right after .

I was just like you understand now .

Now you know why I just All of a sudden almost dropped the controller . It was quite frightening . So it's kind of similar to Warzone . It's almost like Mini Royale , but it's what ? 150 people , it's still 150 .

Yeah , it's still 150 people .

It's packed , just a smaller area .

Yeah , you land . If you die , you come back as a zombie , but you can't , obviously kill your own teammates . And if you kill humans or humans die , you can pick up two syringes and come back as a team member , or they can buy you back . And if you die as a zombie , that's it . You can just be bought back .

There's also cool stuff they have littered throughout kind of like Easter egg stuff , like kids laughing creepily .

There's like specters in the sky . Hands will come out of the ground and try to grab at you .

Sometimes when you go indoors . There's one where there was a pool of blood .

It was just going into the ceiling . But the coolest part , I think , besides the fun gameplay , is there's collectibles . There's 13 collectibles scattered throughout the map . Is it 16 ? 16 . Okay , and if you collect them all , you get a special gun or whatever .

I got three .

But it's pretty fun . You'll , because like you'll , you'll be like you know . Oh man , there's a billion people over there killing each other . A billion people over there . There's the chest . My priorities , like a mad dad .

Yeah , so it's like we were the death . What I thought was like we were playing . We're on top of the prison on the four towers , and I looked at there's two guys on a team , like two enemy guys . They're shooting each and I'm just watching a horde of zombies running at them . And I was just looking down . I was like they have no chance .

Well , that's what Hayden was asking me . He's like do you think people would just band together to fight off the zombies ? I was like no , I already proved that I was watching these two guys fight zombies . I was like shoot them in the back .

I would probably do the same , even if we fought together , just surviving on a lot of zombies , I'd be like bap .

I'm taking my advantage .

Mo down to Horde , just like switch to the AA-12 . Bop , bop , bop , bop , bop , it's over .

So yeah , I mean it's a fun game and it's interesting to see how much work and energy they're putting into this game at the end of its year , because Black Ops is coming out .

Unfortunately it only lasts until November 3rd , though .

I think the dark map might stick around for a little bit .

Yeah , they might do like a realism dark mode . You know actual MVGs and having to use lasers and all that kind of like in the uh campaign , but I will say warzone , I think has now become the best battle royale oh yeah they've beaten .

I don't want to level this gun up through the Warzone experience . I just kind of want to buy the game , enjoy a different multiplayer experience and level up the gun that way and it makes sense and plus the game's probably pretty cheap now anyways . But we've got to move on . So there you go . There's our news and reviews section .

The magic's gone at that point .

So you know , but you do learn a lot about yourself and what gets to you and what doesn't get to you , so that's why I like enjoying and exploring these aspects of how horror , or some emotional derivative , can come out of an art medium . The most important thing to learn about this , though , is that it's very relative , so it's just like art in general .

But , uh , we'll start off with like number one that they , you know , in this article that we've looked at . It talks about negative space , which you know negative spaces . It's like you're looking at , like you're looking at the uh , the movie . You see the main character and then in the background , unless you're looking closely , you don't notice .

If you notice it Well . So the way I interpreted it was negative space is you are looking for something that is probably not there to attack your protagonist , your victim . So somebody walking through a hallway and they're just you see just all shadows . You have no idea what it is . Okay .

One example of this that they described was the movie it follows . If you've seen it , there's , you know , in the movie you have like the , the friends or whatever they're in a setting , and you know you see other characters in the background and you you know that the character like the , the villain of this .

Yeah . Or another example is like that common shot of somebody running through the woods and they're looking around . You don't know where the monster's going to pop out , of what tree In the foreground background , whatever , and you see a claw on the tree right in front of the camera or a branch move in the far background . You don't know what it is .

We got number two on the list was subliminal , which you know . It's something that unconsciously unsettles you and you can't necessarily put a finger on it .

Yeah , unconsciously you unsettles you and you can't necessarily put a finger on it . Yeah , I think cosmic horror is a really good sub genre that does this , because there's so much science fiction crap happening in a space movie that you you don't understand how the technology or whatever it is is going on is happening , but you're creeped out for some reason .

Just cause it's . It's a setting that you can't identify with . It's yeah .

Yeah , uh . 2001 , a Space Odyssey is really good for that . You don't know why these dudes descending into a lunar crater is bothering you , but the music shrilling and them moving really slowly and being concerned about what they're walking towards none of that individual aspects would bother you , but all of it put together does .

Or like the first Alien movie .

Yeah , the first Alien movie . Well , this also kind of blends into the Uncanny , yeah . But yeah , we can talk more about that in a little bit .

go ahead and we'll go on to the next one . Yeah , yeah , number three would be the unexpected like . So it's not necessarily a jump scare , but it's . It's something that you wouldn't expect in a scene like , uh , in insidious .

He's just there yeah , jump scares , I think , are considered a cliche because they the some of them are like the ones where the dude's walking in the hallway and you're waiting for something to come out and grab him . It's just they're . They're dragging that out and they're they're .

But uh , the unexpected is like there's no buildup to the scary , it just happens Like dude just spontaneously gets it . We talked about , like you were talking about , the six cents where the you know the kid gets into the tent and he , you know , everything's fine , he's safe . And then he looks to his right .

One poor use of unexpected nowadays is like the dude that is ranting and raving , breaking up with his girlfriend or whatever , walking out into the street and then gets ran over by a bus out of nowhere . Nowadays we can see that coming a mile away because we've seen it happen so many times in film . So they're like oh , don't go on that street .

No , you got hit by that school bus . Those kids are traumatized , all right .

Number four is the grotesque , which doesn't necessarily mean like just .

Gore .

Yeah , it doesn't necessarily just mean like blood , guts , but just stuff that unsettles you , because it's just like a Pleasant to look at . Well , it's like arachnophobia , like when you're just sitting there you see these dead people and all of a sudden a spider comes crawling out of his nose , and that that also I mean it could .

Gore in itself is something . It can be a self-damning tool or a very like useful tool , like I think a poor example would be slasher films where they just show just needless brutality for for no reason whatsoever and it's just kind of eye-rolling if they shock you , especially early on in the film you're kind of like out of it .

I guess a bad version of grotesque . If you look at A Nightmare on Elm Street where he pulls him into the waterbed Also he's got a geyser of blood it's like why do you need that much ?

I think it was because they're blurring the reality between dreams and , uh , you know , whatever but he was dying in like the real world , I think a lot of . It's just like that shock value yeah you know and like , uh , is it carpenter ? John carpenter , is he the one that nightmare on the street ?

I always get him , and that was um west craven okay , craven .

He always said that he wanted the audience to never really know if they're in a dream or if they were awake in the movie . So that might be one of the reasons why .

I just like the overabundance of blood for some characters , like if it was Dracula dead loving it , where he stakes the girl , and then they just make fun of it because it's just blood everywhere . It just continues .

It's like the human body doesn't have that much blood in it .

Directed by Quentin Tarantino . But all of these opinions that we have , anybody could argue into the favor of anything and we could find reasons if we really want to play devil's advocate for one or the other . It's just , there's a reason why a movie does good and there's a reason why a movie doesn't do good .

uh , it's like you know , like we , you know there's something dangerous in this hallway , like it's just as long dark hallway . Something's going to happen . You expect it to happen .

Yeah , that that foreboding , that hopelessness experience , and it doesn't have to just be like the anticipation of something terrible about to happen . I think a good example of dread would be the end of the movie the mist , where Thomas Jane you know that's a rough ending , but it's definitely dreadful .

It's hopeful .

It's hopelessness at that point , you know , and people love that movie or they hate that movie because of that ending . It's a very bipolar ending . Um , you know , it's the dead gives off that sensation and I think the movie did decently well .

But for it to end the way it did . Do you think it would end the same way if he hadn't done what he did ? Do you think maybe that's the catalyst , that sacrifice ? But yeah , I don't know .

Oh , you're saying that the story would be different .

You think maybe that's why the mist clears .

Maybe I don't know , I have no idea that's . That's an interesting theory I don't know .

I think that's reading in really deep on this .

I think that the film wouldn't be as popular if that's what happened if that's what , if it had a happy ending ? I think people like dreadful stories .

Sometimes there's like a tv show about that , like penny dreville , I don't know , yeah , but uh , they mentioned that a lot of the found footage stuff goes along with this like a paranormal activity where you , you know stuff keeps getting worse and you know in the movie , you know what nighttime comes .

Yeah , blair Witch , you don't even know why . It just gets creepier for some reason . They're just screaming in the woods . At some point You're just like why is this bothering me ?

Because at no point is it a good idea to be lost in the woods in the dark with a flashlight .

No , ever , no Ever .

No matter whether you're with people or not .

A lot of nostril upshots .

Yeah , snot leaking out .

I'm so startled . Alright , what else you got ?

Number six is the uncanny , which it's something that's normal but just slightly altered , that you can't understand why , but it bothers you .

So semi supernatural .

Well , I would think that a subliminal would be . There's something in this room I don't know what it is that bothers me . Okay , um , but about I'm ? I'm in this presence and I am disturbed for this scene for some particular reason . Okay

Well , like we had mentioned , like in the Omen , you have the black dog , which it's just a dog , but the more you look at it , the more creepy it just kind of throws you off .

It is yeah .

And then another one they mentioned in the article that we were reading is the movie . I think it's , I don't know if it's chapter one or two , but you had the little chubby kid sitting in a library and over his shoulder you see the librarian with just this big creepy grin on her face the entire time . And she's like you know why , Libraries are creepy .

That wouldn't happen . I mean , maybe she thought of a funny joke or something , I don't know , but there's no reason for that situation to happen , juxtaposed with the music and everything going on and , honestly , like these , uh , very nuanced sensations that we're describing .

They condition you to be scared of it in the movie .

They want you to sensory input without knowing that you're taking in this information and , for some reason , your blood pressure is raising .

So yeah , uncanny , you talked about the ring yeah , yeah , like just the well yeah , the fact that when she's coming out of the well , it's just like that's not supposed to be there . It's like .

It's not supposed to be like that . Why is that bothering ?

you know seven days and then , uh , the last part we have is the unstoppable , which is pretty self-explanatory . You have this unstoppable force , like Michael Myers or Jason , that's just constantly pursuing you and there's nothing you can do to stop it .

It's something based on the reality of our situation . You shoot somebody seven times in the chest , you're expecting them to hit the ground and whatever you do , what would be beyond considered mortal wounds to humans and completely fatal to these characters ? And it doesn't stop them . It doesn't . I mean , it might slow them down , but they just they'll go down .

Like at some point watching michael my get shot 15 times , sometimes in the face , you know your suspension of disbelief is slowly stretched further and further out and then eventually you're just kind of like okay , this isn't a real movie , this could not be based in reality anymore . It's now a supernatural film . Yeah supernatural film .

These things Exactly .

Instead of just like some you know , these things Exactly , instead of just some jack creepy dude wearing a mask running around the Halloween movies .

they got worse and worse and worse and worse as they went on . In the first one , I think he gets poked in the eye with a coat hanger .

That would hurt .

Stabbed with a sewing needle , he gets stabbed in the neck-ish lat area With a knitting needle Probably not that far in either . He gets stabbed with that and then he gets shot six times in the chest and then just Sequel after sequel after sequel . He gets lit on fire , shot with shotguns . They blow him up with dynamite .

They try to reboot it , the Rob Zombie stuff , and try to make it better , and then it gets dumber and dumber . I think that they should do like a Sharknado 15 , but they cast an A-list . Cast Like they have Brad Pitt .

Tom Cruise , robert Downey Jr , sam Jackson , the .

Avengers . They pick it right up after Sharknado 14 to 15 to just recast with all these A-listers . They don't explain anything , they just pick it up Like they've . They've been doing this the whole time .

I want that movie , but I want it like all these people . But I want Halloween , like 15 or whatever it's going to be now , but I want Michael Myers to be the good guy . Oh yeah , I want him to be the protagonist . Have you guys seen this ?

YouTube video called the Michael Myers of Decatur .

No .

I don't think it's Decatur , georgia , but there's someplace . My wife was talking to me about this that there's this guy who just dresses as Michael Myers . He just drives around in a station wagon . Well , like he terrorizes his wife essentially , so like ,

I saw that video on Facebook . When I was a kid , neighbors on the street used to do this crazy big haunted house at their house . It was like the front yard , the garage around the back , and it came out and they had a life-size mannequin model of Michael Myers and periodically , throughout the day , they'd move it around . Nobody was really paying attention .

He's like I made two kids crap themselves today , today well , when I was in college , we , you know , I lived in the dorm rooms and I'm I'm not a small person really for anybody listening I thought you were a midget I'm a very fairly large individual and my roommate was .

You just heard his keys jiggling , trying to get into the room that's like you start walking , just like slowly tapping the machete against the door handles .

It's like glink , I think I got a part-time job in a haunted house when I was in college and they had me be the zombie in a meat locker . And so the tour guide that takes him through the haunted house . He walks him into this meat locker , but the lights are off .

And just start screaming .

There was this big like seven-foot dude next to me and I was like rah . And I was like oh , this dude screamed like a girl you know , he screamed , he was like eh .

I made that large manly man piss himself like a little kid .

So we could talk about these horror stories that we've all experienced . But to get back on topic here and maybe it's not too far off topic these sensations that we experience through these specific categories may have some sort of personal connotation to you . You may have been terrorized in a hallway okay .

What's that ?

called that noise thing that people have when I don't know anyways . So you may have some sort of noise , uh sensation , when the lights are out , that that terrorizes you , and then what's ? A very dark scene in a , in a horror movie .

I've never watched it . I'm scared of spiders . I'm not going to watch it .

It's a challenging movie , so they find those things that terrorize people and they exploit them , and they do it through these specific categories .

You never see the raptors , you just see Sam .

Jackson's arm . Yeah , you never see the raptors . She just runs out into the jungle , panicked . And like Steven Spielberg knew . He's like we don't even have that raptors . The audience is just going to be terrified just knowing that she could be pursued right now . And that's true .

If you're lonely , watch a horror movie , you won't feel alone . You want to talk about our , the scientifically proven yeah yeah , what's the scariest .

So here just give us the top five .

This was actually like a scientifically done study . This is on nerdist um . So they had people watch like hundreds of hours worth of horror films . You know all the good classics and once this thing actually wants to work , damn it yeah well , what had happened was ?

Mm-hmm .

It did that to the list . But I mean they tested people's heart rates , blood pressure , through all these and they actually scientifically correlated it . The resting BPM was 65 beats per minute . The highest spike was 131 , which is like's double that plus one . But you almost give somebody a heart attack . A lot of your bigger ones , you know .

The Babadook . The Conjuring 2 , it Follows .

Paranormal Activity , hereditary , the Conjuring , insidious and the number one scientifically proven ultimate horror movie , sinister With Ethan Hawke and the bad guy looks like he should play bass for Slipknot , which I watched that movie and they tease you with the jump scare , like when he's doing the camera thing and you see him and he moves and then all of a sudden

It's a dude just like saying I'm going to slap you in the next hour and a half . You just don't know when it's going to happen , so you know , racing for impact , your mother where , uh , uh , what's his name ?

It's like they're at an event or whatever . It's like yeah , yeah , yeah , Bam .

It's two .

It's like damn it .

That's exactly what it's like in the movie . When they jump scare you , you're just like , oh yeah , I forgot , you're going to do that so one thing I thought was weird , though these top 10 films , these are recent movies . Yeah , a lot of them are .

That stupid car commercial where the car's going down and all of a sudden Everything had a jump scare at a certain point .

Nowadays people are a little bit more creative and tasteful . I do think that horror is going to inevitably get better , as long as they get away from this indie crap .

Where people are just wandering around . It's not good .

Yeah , your film festival horror movie sucks . Just stop it . You suck . Keep it as a short film .

Kind of like Blind Manor where they're just talking , just wandering around .

I feel disdain today .

It's like a handsome , dirty French guy smoking a cigarette isn't the plot of a movie .

All right , cool , cool , there you go . Uh , this is a lot of heavy conversational stuff that we pretty well kept contained . Um , if you have any opinion on any of this , please , uh , talk to us on whatever mitch's social mediums are , and we , I could talk about this stuff all day . I love film theory .

If you like us talking about this more than so , than just like a top 10 list , let us know . I will put out kind of a poll to see you know what your opinions are right , see what you want to hear more of .

So well , it's that time , nikes , while tom pulls up his list .

Uh , his uh wheel of death um mitch . Tell us your first scary movie experience probably blair witch . Yeah , that's the first horror movie I remember seeing . That scared me . I mean , I was a kid so it made me like I was big enough to where I wasn't sleeping with a nightlight anymore . I was wearing big boy pants .

I need my blankie .

I don't remember what age I was , but like I wasn't big enough where I didn't sleep with the closet light on or nothing like that anymore . This movie made me sleep with the light on for two weeks , just because as a kid that was a fear I had , because my dad would take us hunting and he'd go all right , go find the stand .

I've got a gun . That seems rather irresponsible .

Eh , I mean , I've been doing it since I was five years old .

You turned out alright . He didn't die , so it all works out Alright , hit that wheel .

It was a real life scare .

This is a real life scare .

Yes , damn , it .

Yes , by .

Hayden from the movie Good , it's about time .

Number five out of 36 .

You have to watch this movie okay , if it's arachnophobia , I'm not watching it .

It's not arachnophobia , you have to watch this movie , all right , and you can't do this whole . Oh , I watched 20 minutes of clips on YouTube thing . I don't care if you have to spend 100 bucks to watch this movie , all right . This is only your fifth punishment in 36 episodes . I think he's feeling some kind of way you will watch this movie .

Normally he makes me look the shit up .

Las Vegas , when anything goes . Enjoy it while you can here .

I'll put it here .

My name is Aaron Brand . I always thought I was doing the right thing and preparing for life . I was the first in my class in college in computer science . I joined the military and became a plunder pilot . I won many medals in the state of service . I'm now a covert agent Mercenary . I don't need much to live on anymore .

I think we get it .

I don't know what's going on .

This movie is called Double Down .

It's not just a guy on YouTube with a camera , is it no ?

This was made in the past 20 years .

Was it really yeah ?

It is written , directed , produced , produced and starring this guy ?

who is that guy his ?

name is neil brennan brennan and he , he loves himself so much he's made movies off of whatever he does , you know . And he , I think in reality he's like a financial accountant or something like that he's just like you know what I going to make a crappy movie .

Mitch bye .

Goodbye from Me , tom Bye , goodbye everybody .

Yes , it's not me . No , it's not you this time . Thanks .