The nine Enneagram types tell us a lot, but the Enneagram subtypes descriptions offer an even more nuanced view of the personality types, shedding light on our most unconscious level of functioning so we can become more self-aware. The Enneagram describes three centers of human intelligence—the head, heart, and body. Each triad then divides into three to create nine interconnected personality types. These types also each have their own triad—the third level of three—the 27 subtypes. Subtypes are...
Jun 27, 2025•1 hr 18 min
In this week's episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes interview Christy Kennedy, founder of Culture Conscious — a company that integrates the Enneagram with storytelling to unlock the full growth potential of leaders and teams. In addition to her professional journey with the Enneagram, Christy shares her personal growth story, offering beautiful and meaningful insights on the centers of intelligence and her lived experience with each one. Learn more about Culture Conscious: https://www.cult...
Jun 13, 2025•59 min
In this week's Episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Urânio Paes interview Desta Goehner, a spiritual director who has helped several spiritual workers and leaders improve themselves in their journey using the Enneagram. They also discuss her personal growth journey as a Social Two, highlighting how the Enneagram is a powerful tool that can help in your own personal, psychological, and spiritual work. Desta also shares her experience with CP Enneagram's inner work retreats! Sign up for our newsletter o...
May 29, 2025•1 hr 4 min•Season 4Ep. 8
In this episode, Bea and Uranio sit down with psychotherapist Karen Carlsen to explore how the Enneagram can be integrated into deep healing and therapeutic work. Karen shares her approach to using the Enneagram as a map for understanding personality defenses, the power of knowing her clients' Enneagram types, and transformation in psychotherapy and coaching work. Together, they discuss real-life applications, the importance of presence in the healing process, and how the Enneagram can support b...
May 05, 2025•59 min•Season 4Ep. 9
Beatrice Chestnut has a conversation with Dina Elbadry about the power of recognizing and accepting trauma. The act of sharing personal stories with a group of people has a profound effect on self-development. Learn how being vulnerable in a group of people who validate and resonate with pain can help release the power trauma holds. Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to k...
Apr 17, 2025•35 min•Season 4Ep. 8
All Enneagram types have a particular thing that they focus their attention on (often unconsciously). Understanding each of these points of focus is one of the best ways for people to learn about the Nine types and the 27 subtypes. People tend to become very good at the thing they pay attention to, but they tend to miss the bigger picture. For inner growth, it’s essential to expand your vision and to be able to shift your focus to things that your personality tries hard to hide. Bea and Uranio o...
Apr 03, 2025•1 hr 18 min•Season 4Ep. 7
In this episode, we dive deep into the psychological layers of the Enneagram’s three instincts: Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual. We explore the profound influence of parenting dynamics on the dominant instinct, uncovering how caregivers shape our instinctual survival strategies. How does a parent’s role reinforce or distort an instinct’s expression? Why do some of us become hyper-independent while others seek belonging at all costs? And what happens when our core needs feel unmet? Join us ...
Mar 20, 2025•54 min•Season 4Ep. 6
Each of the three Centers of Intelligence has upsides and downsides. Being a Body Type, Heart Type, or Head Type plays a big role in our daily experience and how we navigate the world in collaboration with others. Some adaptive strategies that come with Anger, Sadness, and Fear have some pros, while other traits have a negative impact on daily life. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes explore this topic and shine light onto the upsides and downsides of ego regarding Centers of Intelligence. Sign u...
Mar 06, 2025•55 min•Season 4Ep. 5
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes both have experience applying the Enneagram to business teams. In this episode, they discuss how the three dominant instincts, Centers of Intelligence, and each of the nine Enneagram types influence the way people work with others. In the team building process, it is important to keep these influences in mind, as they can bring both benefits and challenges. Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of mon...
Feb 20, 2025•1 hr 17 min•Season 4Ep. 4
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes, who studied the Enneagram collectively for over 50 years, continue their discussion of time management of each of the Enneagram types. In this episode, they talk about their experiences with heart types, Enneagram Type 2, Type 3, and Type 4. In general, these types’ perspectives of time are elastic, which can be heavily influenced by the colors of emotions. However, each Enneagram type of heart types has its own unique relationship with time and, therefore, uni...
Feb 06, 2025•43 min•Season 4Ep. 3
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes, who studied the Enneagram collectively for over 50 years, continue their discussion of time management of each of the Enneagram types. In this episode, they talk about their experiences with body types, Enneagram Type 8, Type 9, and Type 1. In general, these types are prone to routines and are drawn to following an order or sequence of steps. They can be too controlled by the concept of time, causing stress and inefficiency. However, each Enneagram type of body...
Jan 23, 2025•46 min•Season 4Ep. 2
Each Enneagram type has a default mode in how they relate and manage time. In this episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes, who studied the Enneagram collectively for over 50 years, explore how Enneagram type, and even subtype and instincts, affect the way we perceive time. Bea and Uranio offer tips that can not only help you manage time more intentionally but can serve as a catalyst to being more conscious. Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to ...
Jan 09, 2025•56 min•Season 4Ep. 1
By definition, the nine Enneagram personality types are problematic, and issues related to the ego affect close relationships. It's easy to see how the other person brings problems into a relationship, but it's much harder to see how we bring challenges, too. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes explain the challenges that each of the nine Enneagram types creates in close relationships. Bea and Uranio are giving a workshop called Art of Conscious Connection: Healing Through Dialogue in January and ...
Dec 12, 2024•35 min•Season 3Ep. 25
When you own your Enneagram shadows, the parts of yourself that remain unconscious, it helps ease pressure on the collective Enneagram shadows in society. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes discuss what shadows each Enneagram type has that can cause roadblocks to connecting with others. When facing these unconscious shadows, we can see a path forward to bridge the divide in increasingly more challenging times. Links to related podcast episodes: S2 EP17 Individual Shadows - Body Types(1 of 4) http...
Nov 27, 2024•37 min•Season 3Ep. 24
Join Bea and Uranio as they share their ideas of Enneagram types of fictional characters in movies and TV shows. This episode could broaden your concept of what Enneagram types look like while having some fun. Let us know if you agree with our choices! CP Enneagram Academy offers a course nearly every year that goes into depth about behavioral patterns and the motivations of each of the 27 subtypes. They also share clips that have characters Bea and Uranio theorize to be one of each of the 27 su...
Nov 14, 2024•18 min•Season 3Ep. 23
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes discuss how early childhood development is impacted by Enneagram types. As adults, if we make the connections between our current struggles to unattended needs that come from childhood, it can make behavioral changes easier. This valuable theme is taught in the CP Enneagram Academy’s professional Enneagram Skills workshop, which is offered online each year. They reference Sigmund Freud, Claudio Naranjo, Karne Horney, and many others who have paved the way to und...
Oct 31, 2024•1 hr 28 min•Season 3Ep. 17
In this episode, we revisit one of the most-listened-to episodes of our podcast. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes discuss why subtypes are so important when figuring out your type or even typing your clients. They also go through all 27 subtypes in the enneagram and talk about how Bea brought to light the important work of Claudio Naranjo through her book, The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge . Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community o...
Oct 17, 2024•1 hr 24 min•Season 3Ep. 21
This episode addresses the challenge of accurately identifying Enneagram types by exploring how childhood behaviors and arrow movements provide key insights into early personality formation, offering a framework for more precise typing and pointing to transformative, psychological growth paths. Join Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes in this deep dive into how children access Enneagram arrows. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and par...
Oct 03, 2024•1 hr 28 min
Humility is an important concept in inner work according to many spiritual traditions. In some ways, it’s a key part of what the Enneagram is about, which is disidentifying with ego. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes will discuss how humility is commonly understood but also how we might understand it when we are using the Enneagram for inner work. They discuss how pride shows up in all nine types and all three dominant instincts, and how humility can help us discern the difference between ego an...
Sep 19, 2024•1 hr 29 min•Season 3Ep. 19
Enneagram teacher and psychotherapist Beatrice Chestnut has a rich conversation interviewing an Enneagram Social Four, Elizabeth Cotton. As a SO4, Lizzy shares her experience using the Enneagram with her clients as a psychotherapist and how she sees the power of this ancient tool, especially when working with couples. She also opens up about how understanding her own Enneagram subtype helps her dissolve her attachment to sadness and reside in her deeper nature of pure joy. You can learn more abo...
Sep 05, 2024•45 min•Season 3Ep. 18
Our personality is a defensive coping structure to protect us from pain, including traumatic injury. This defense mechanism was necessary when dealing with trauma at the time, but afterward, we tend to have problems that flow from that defense that block our growth. It becomes like a wound that hasn’t been healed and creates challenges for change. Uranio Paes and licensed psychotherapist Beatrice Chestnut share specific cases they had with clients of each Enneagram type when healing trauma. CP E...
Aug 22, 2024•1 hr•Season 3Ep. 17
It's important not to judge people for not being interested in the Enneagram or self-development in general. If your family and friends are not interested in the Enneagram, you could try to grow your social circle to include people who are interested. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes share advice on how to get people in your life curious about this powerful tool for inner work. One way to grow your circle is to join one of our workshops. Go to https://cpenneagram.com/live-courses to join an onl...
Aug 08, 2024•58 min•Season 3Ep. 16
Today, our interview is with Jennifer Culverhouse, a Sexual Three. During the interview, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in her personality that are common among SX 3s, which helps in understanding key differences between the three subtypes of Type Three. Like learning about the Enneagram? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://le...
Jul 25, 2024•1 hr 9 min•Season 3Ep. 15
How do Zellennials think about the Enneagram? How do they discover the Enneagram and how do they use it? In this episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes interview Maddy Dray, a young Millennial who relates to aspects of Gen Z, and they discuss the Enneagram from her perspective. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online members...
Jul 12, 2024•53 min•Season 3Ep. 14
The whole process of working with the Enneagram to grow and transform is based on observing what’s really happening to us. Self-observation and self-reflection sometimes sound simple, but as a psychotherapist, Beatrice Chestnut knows from working with clients that it doesn’t come naturally to us. People are often very surprised at what they find when they intentionally try to observe something in themselves. The Enneagram helps point out patterns in our personality that we can intentionally obse...
Jun 27, 2024•53 min
Pulling from the theory of Claudio Narajano, Bea and Uranio share some common myths and misconceptions about Enneagram types when subtypes are not understood. When referring to subtypes, they are not referring to Wings. They use instinctual subtypes, which describe the mix of the passion of the type and dominant instinct, which is either self-preservation, social, or sexual. It is easy to think people of the same type are similar because they share a common passion. However, the dominant instinc...
Jun 13, 2024•1 hr 21 min•Season 3Ep. 12
This is a fantastic interview with Milton Stewart, a SP 7. He shares how he discovered the Enneagram and the ways he used this powerful tool to understand himself and help others better their lives. He discussed stories of overcoming his growth challenges as a Self-Preservation Seven. During the interview, Beatrice Chesnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in his personality that are common among SP 7s, which helps understand key differences between the three subtypes of Type Seven. Milton is...
May 30, 2024•50 min
Body Intelligence is something that is widely overlooked and undervalued around the world. Beatrice and Uranio Paes explain what it means to activate this Body Center, and how all nine types can benefit in understanding the value this can bring to our lives. One of the key pathways for inner work and personal development is to rebalance the three Centers of Intelligence. This is the third episode in a three-part series that focuses on activating the three centers. The Top Five in this episode is...
May 16, 2024•1 hr 18 min•Season 3Ep. 10
This is a rich interview with Nancy Hunterton exploring the experience of being a Sexual Four as a child, a mother, and a grandmother. During the interview, Beatrice Chesnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in her personality that are common among Sexual Fours. Nancy shared stories, including the time she was in elementary school and stood up to her disrespectful teacher saying “Why don’t you pick on someone your own size?” Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live mo...
May 02, 2024•1 hr 1 min•Season 3Ep. 9
In this episode, we are playing our most popular episode, which across all podcast platforms has over 55,000 plays! It is important to know that as we dive deeper into the Enneagram and learn the complexities of the tool that helps us better understand ourselves and the world, the fundamentals are the most important concepts to understand. It's easy to overlook the passion of each of the types when we are thinking in terms of instinctual sequences or cultural influences on personalities. But the...
Apr 18, 2024•1 hr 34 min•Season 3Ep. 8
