Hello, and welcome to enlighten paths, your community for the awakened. Where we discuss Explore and connect with Fellow, Healer, intuitive and seekers. Welcome back to another Share light episode. And as I've mentioned before, it's been a while since I've done 1 of these, but I'm I'm excited to be back in the saddle with this. This is an opportunity for us to showcase people in our listening audience who are really stepping into their power, their light, their
purpose. They're here to make a difference and really do the work that resonates with who they are. And today's guest is is actually exe exemplified that beautifully. Her name is staff, and it's steph Camille. Steph is the host of medium in the middle podcast. She's a Rei master teacher, a spiritual and business mentor, a psych k facilitator, an intuitive psychic medium and an all around energy enthusiasts. She's based out of Bam, Alberta, and and she offices services
virtually and in person and. So welcome Steph, and thank you so much for doing this with me today. Thanks, Denise. I appreciate you having me on. Yeah. And this is... So we have a lot of mediums that listen. We have a lot of intuitive. But what I love is steph. And I mean this above in compassion is relatively young and has really stepped into her business with a passion. Her service work is incredible.
So could you tell us a little bit about how you started your business and what led you to becoming an intuitive medium? Oh, yes. So I did start young, and I do feel very grateful that I was able to step into this. I get told that all the time. So I started when I was around 28 years old. And I took a Rei course and then weird things started happening, and then I took Rei level 2, and more things started happening.
And that's really when my mediums ship ability started to open up, but I always joke that you don't realize your medium and Tlc calls you with the show ready to go. You have to do a lot of development, so it took me a few years to really get it under wraps to feel like I had my boundaries. And then it wasn't until Covid happened.
I was working at a restaurant, and I was side hustling for years always doing Ricky on my days off, always doing things, whether it was sub leasing, working at spas, working out of my home. But then when I was working in a restaurant, and I lost my job, I was like, okay, What can I do now? And I had a podcast medium in the middle podcast. So I had been doing the podcast for about a year and people were always asking for distance Rei and virtual services.
And then Covid kinda gave me the opportunity to figure out how I could go virtual. So I spent hours and hours trying to figure it out and building a website and testing it and having control groups and testing it on people that I didn't know and seeing if it worked.
And then I launched my business in 20 20, and it went off, and I thought it was because of Covid and everyone told me when people go back to work, your business is going to die when people go back to work, your business is going to die. And then somehow, year over year, we grow and grow and grow, and it put me full time within, like, 6 months. And then I am now just trying to find the balance in year 5 of working 6 days a week, 7 days a week, 5 days a week trying to figure out days off.
So that's really what happened is we... I lost my job, and I was stuck at home and people were asking, and I said, okay. Let me figure out how to do distance, Ricky. Let me figure out how to teach online. Let me figure out all of these things. And when school and university went virtual, I was like, okay. If people are learning how to be a doctor online, I can teach Rei online, and I can figure out what we need and what we
need to accommodate. So, yeah, that's what threw me into it was losing my job. But I love that because it's divine orchestrated, and you're able to reach so many more people, than you ever would have been able to reach just in your immediate geographical area. And I always joke and I say that Rei is a gateway drug for a lot of people to open up to other modalities. And you and I've chatted about this before that Rei is really...
That's your love. I mean, you're you're very very good at all your other modalities, but your number 1 is so could you talk a little bit about why Rei really resonates with you as a practice? Oh, yes. I also say Ricky is a gateway drug. That's so far. I think Ricky resonates me so much because I always like to explain it to my students and anyone that will listen to me Yammer about it.
It's the awareness that Rei brings So I always like to say that energy healing is, like a new set of glasses where you start to understand your body, you start to understand your energy you start to think like, oh, yeah. How often do I get these headaches? How often is my stomach upset? Why does my right hip hurt when did my right hips start hurting. So I love Rei because of the awareness that it brings into our own bodies And I find that now we're so fast.
The life is moving fast. We're doing so many things that we forget about our... I always call your own body your home. And we all need to start at home. We can't run out and clean someone else's house before our own house is clean. So I just love Ricky you so much because of the awareness and because we can work on ourselves. And because the more you work with it, the better and better you become I always compare it to riding a bike.
We all start with our little tricycle, and then we get 2 wheels, and then we have your training wheels, and then do we move up from there. And eventually, you're riding your bike drinking a coffee, talking to your friend on the phone, waving even at the neighbors and you forgot what It was like when you were on a tricycle. But we all start off on the tricycle, like, it's universal, and, yes, some people go faster than others, but I love it because of the awareness
that it rings. And then once you have those awareness glasses on, you can never take them off. You can never... Oh, I don't wanna know anymore. I don't wanna be aware anymore. Oh, I don't wanna pay attention to my energy anymore. And I think being aware of your energy is just So so so important, and it makes life so easy and fast. And that's why I love Rei as well because I always want people's lives to be easier and faster. We don't have to take months or years
to learn a lesson. We don't have to take months or years to figure out what are the alarm bells of our body are trying to tell us. So, yeah, I could go on on but why, I love you So I think those are the top for sure top reasons. When there seem to be 2 schools of thought with Bra. I've always when I was trained with Break, I was taught that I was a vessel and a conduit for healing to come through me not from me which is something that I've applied to all of my work over the years.
And other folks feel that it's coming from their source light. Which when you do your trainings, which I know you have several coming up. Do you... How do you... What is your modality? How do you tell people to? To. Yes. We are the conduit do it. So I definitely agree with you. We are the extension cord. So I always like to explain we plug to Ra, and then we plug to wherever we're going. Nothing is being taken from you, Nothing is coming from you. You aren't being drained.
We are just the vessel. So, yeah, We definitely learn and teach under that school of thought. And 1 thing that I... People will want a Zoom caller, they'll want, you know, a regression or the want something. Virtually, and again, Covid did open up the world for all of us. Do you physically feel a difference when you're doing distance rei versus when you're doing Rei in person? Because you're right in someone's work field when you're working with them personally, or does it feel the same for you?
I it does feel different. When I do distance, I have to connect much stronger in person, I can touch you and connect with distance, you really have to go in and form that bond. So there's some things that my body does when I'm connecting distant to let me know that I am connected, so I do this like, weird yawn thing. And when I disconnect, it feels different.
But it is the same results. I've had people do in person and distance, and it's the same experience for them, so which is really nice to hear, minus my hands touching you. And I do kind of prefer distance because I can work a lot faster. I don't have to move a chair around your body. I don't have to walk from head to your toes and your toes to your belly and your belly to your toes and your toes to your head takes minutes.
So I always say I probably get between 4 and 7 more minutes of actual ra key in a distant session because there's not the formalities of you laying down on the table. You taking off your coat. You putting back on your c. Are you leaving all those things. So, yeah, It's it is a little bit different for me, but I do like that once I'm in, my process is the same whether I'm in person, whether I'm distance.
I still do my same process. It just feels a little bit different because I am connecting quite deeply with distance. I love that because it it's also everything is vibration and energy, so you can send that always equate it to, you know, sound waves. It's gonna still get to where it's going. But being able to direct that energy to someone and then on the receiving end. So... That's a really really nice description that you
gave. Thank you. And that you you're saying that you use your body as you call it home. And I always our body as a barometer. So when you feel things when you're doing distance rei you or doing Rei someone. Do you physically feel in your body? What is in... Like, how are you drawn to where to really direct your energy? Yeah. So when I work decently, I use my body as a surrogate. So I kind of imagine that I'm putting on, like, a wet
suit that's your energy. So from my toes up, I kind of imagine I'm going into Denise, so I'm... I'm denise. I'm Denise. I'm Denise from my toes to my head. And then as soon as I'm fully in your energy, I do a scan, and that's when I'm like, oh, what's going with your shoulder. Oh, and what happened to your knee And oh, Have you broken your collar 3 times. Then at the end of the session, I peel off your suit, and I push you away and I disconnect, and now I am
stuff again. So, yeah, I imagine that my body becomes your body, and then I work on my body because it's yours. So I do like the surrogate method when I do distance Rei, but there's lots of ways that you can do distance Rei, and I always try to stress you have to find the way that's easiest for you. For me, I have to do it on a video call. I find it that's the easiest way. And before we begin, I ask you I asked to see you from your
head to your toes. So you have to show me your hands, and you have to show me your toes. But it just helps me connect to your energy so much faster if I can do a scan with my eyes. And then once I'm into your energy, my eyes are closed, you lay down and we're in, but some people connect on the phone. Some people connect with voice. Some
people connect with a photo. Some people use a surrogate teddy bear So whenever I'm teaching distance, Ricky, I give, like, 14 different options of how you can connect distant instantly. And I always say, try everyone and see what you like best, and then try everyone again and make sure that whatever way is easiest for you is the easiest way for you.
That's excellent advice because that applies to all any other work you're going to do Based on intuition or mediums ship or connection is finding the way that it works best for you. I I agree with you a hundred percent on that.
And really, really good point that you made about making sure you connect from the person that you're working with when you finish, and even though you're being a conduit for healing energy, if you're stepping into my virtual Or field, by by doing this process, then you're going to have to step out of it or there's gonna keep a connection. And I think a lot of times people forget you have to disconnect with any of the work that you're doing. Yeah. It's the most important step.
So you... That feels I can feel your passion for this, your level of experience and expertise, and you So you were doing Rei people and then you started to get more intuitive hits and more medium ship hits during a a Rei session, which I think happens for a lot of people. Mh. Yeah opens that door up. Yeah. It is very common. And I think because Ricky gets you into that space of neutral of nothingness. You're letting the energy flow. You aren't thinking about your laundry list. You
have to buy eggs. You'd pick up the kids at 04:00. Your mind should be clear when you're working, It allows for everything else to drop in, and we know with all spiritual work. You need that clear mind. You cannot be thinking. And that just allows everything to drop in so much easier. So, yeah. Like, you said it's the gateway drug because when you're in that zone, it's like, oh, and who's Bob? Oh, Bob's uncle. Oh, and who's this? And, oh, what's going on with this?
People are always like, how do Know? I'm not making it up? It's like, why of all the things to think about, Why are you thinking of that? Why would you ramp think about some man named Bob? Or why would you randomly think of a grandma making blueberry muffins or why would you randomly think of purple slippers? Like, You would randomly think, I gotta buy eggs. Oh, I forgot to take out the laundry. Oh, dead the dog has to pee. Those are random thoughts. Fine.
But when it gets to, like, spirit and drop in, I don't know where the school of thought of, like, I'm making it up came because I wish people would just trust it more and trust themselves. Maybe you are making it up, but you're probably not. And what's the worst case scenario and and there's a spot 80 to it, it it just... It's there. And mh.
There... If there was a catalyst for it of coming in, as you mentioned, the the logical things in our everyday life, but the intuitive hits come in, they come in out of left field often and we'll talk a little bit more about the mediums ship in a minute. But another modality that you offer is psych k. And what is that? Because I don't think a lot of people are familiar with it. Yeah. So I love Site k. Site k rewrite your
subconscious mind. So if you have limiting beliefs, what we do is we go in, we find the limiting belief, and then we find the new belief that you want, and we kind of reprogram your mind like a computer to take away the old belief and bring in the new belief. But we do it with energy, So it still feels like a ra release. Your body still feels like it's processing, and it feel like it it's working. But what you're doing is you're finding your
limiting belief. So I like this to explain it as you're trying to find the whole. Your brain is very smart, and we're trying to find the word that you're like, I don't like that. So for example, you can say I am abundant, and that can test positive and you can say, yeah. I am abundant. But then only say, I feel abundant. Your body's like, oh, no. I don't feel abundant. I am abundant, but I don't feel abundant. So if you are abundant, but you don't feel abundant, now how are you gonna act.
So whatever you believe to be true is how you act. I can save money, you'll save money. I can't save money. You won't save money. So we try to find your limiting beliefs and we try to be very specific about what are, find the opposite. So if I if the limiting belief is, I can't save money. We swap it. I can save money. I easily save money. I want to save money. I prioritize saving money. What is the word where you're like, no. I don't prioritize
saving money. No. Once we find that belief, we reprogram it, and we release the old belief, bring in the new belief, and then you start to act that way immediately because now you believe that. So just as a very simple example, because I can say k myself, I said k the smallest things. I hate taking out the recycling. It's... I will take it, and I'll put it by the door, and I will trip over it for a week because I just
hate taking out their recycling? I was like, why do I have to walk this across the street? So I just arcade myself, I enjoy taking out the recycling. I want to take up the recycling. So now when my recycling bin starts to fill up. There is something in my mind that goes, soon we can take out the recycling. And my conscious mind is like, why am I thinking that like, who in their mind thinks, Woo who I get to take out the recycling.
But because I've reprogram that, every time the bin gets full, it's like, Woo I get to take out their recycling. So it's interesting with Site k because there are layers, then there was a period of time where I stopped taking out the recycling, and I was like, well, why? Am I not taking out their recycling? I wanna take it out. I like to take it out. And then my brain says, well, you don't have time. And I was like, oh, a new belief. I don't have time to take out the recycling.
Reprogram. I like taking out the recycling. I always have time to take over the recycling. And now my recycling doesn't sit by the door, but we have to do that in our lives. Again, the awareness. What is it that you feel. I am. I know. I feel. I like. I prioritize. I want to. What are the words where your brain and your body are like, oh,
no. I don't like that. So part of the work is figuring out where the limiting belief is and then we reprogram it using site k. So Is just an easy and fast way that you can reprogram limiting beliefs. It's not the only way. There's lots of ways that you can do it. I think the cool thing about is we don't need to know where it came from, the limiting belief. We just need to know is it there? Or is it not there? And if it's there, we fix that. And if it's
not there, we move on? So we don't have to go, like, when did you start feeling that you couldn't save money? What happened in your life? That made you feel like you did save money. We don't have to go into the therapy of it or just, like, do you believe you can save money or not? You don't? Okay. Let's fix that. So it's amazing. Is it a semi h not state? Is it a collaborative effort? How how do you reprogram?
Yes to both So I do surrogate it for this too because it's a lot faster if I do the balances for you, and then we can move through more statements. But, yeah, It is... The more I work with it because we have to me as the practitioner, I have to say certain things to you. And it does feel like h sometimes, I'm always, like, listen to my voice, follow this. But because of my Ra background, I can balance very fast because I know how to move energy.
So when we're doing balances, I will explain to you where it sits. So for example, I'll be like, oh, your jaw is cl. Oh, this sits in your job... Oh, this makes sense that it's sitting in your job because you have a problem speaking your voice and it's sitting in your job. So when you are done k, You'll feel those spots released. So you'll feel a lot lighter and more expansive. Obviously, we don't choose our limiting beliefs. They just happen based on things that happen in
your life. But once they're removed, you're like, oh, yeah. I don't feel that weight on me anymore. So I love it as an energy exercise. The limiting belief part is amazing too, but it's really interesting to see what you believe. And again, the awareness of starting to realize where your limiting beliefs are. That's fascinating because I think so many people are wanting to do the work but they don't wanna dr up with the old stuff. They don't feel a need to revisit.
I read something recently, and it was saying, oh, these are you know, indicators of childhood trauma, and I read them list and I thought... Yeah. Well, Dan will tell me something I don't know. I mean, III know it's in there I'm working you know... So the fact that you're able to say, where are you hearing now? What do you wanna shift and let go of? That's incredibly empowering. And
as you mentioned, it's quick. It's easy. You can work through a lot more than having to start from, And I'm not discounting the need for traditional therapies or practices it... Because there is a place for that as well, but we're talking about how can I move forward with my life and get my recycling taken up? Yeah. Well, and I think because of my Ra background, and I can understand your energy when I go into it and then because of my too background.
You can come to me and say, oh, like, I'm having a limiting belief about eating healthy. And We'll talk about it for, you know, a few minutes, and I'm like, that's not your belief. It's actually about you prioritizing yourself. And the person goes, oh and I'm like, yeah. So we're gonna balance prioritizing your and eating healthy has nothing to do with it. So I also feel like why I'm good at say, k is that I can mix everything together.
We're in a 45 minute session. We work through about 10 statements, and we get to the bottom of things. It's not about Oh, I don't prioritize, you know, working out or eating healthy. It's like, well, actually, the limiting belief isn't about working out or eating healthy. It's about. Do you make... You making time for yourself, you putting yourself So I'm good at kind of calling people out on that and being like, this isn't the thing we need to do. This is.
So it may be 1 session for 1 person and 3 sessions for someone else to really solidify those or can it Well, no. Yeah. So you can... So Canadian of me. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. It depends like, obviously, we all have a lot of limiting beliefs. It depends how many you wanna work on. So you would make 10 limiting beliefs. We would work through those And then if you had 10 new limiting beliefs, you could book another session. If you find 10 more
limiting beliefs, you can book another session. But usually, 1 to 2 sessions, you're gonna kick off your big ones, and then you can start to get into the nitty gritty. So if you start to find things that are more specific, but the more specific the better. The other cool thing about your limiting beliefs are there like Domino's. So for example, if you don't believe you're abundant, You're probably not calling an abundant. You're probably not saving money. You're probably not making money.
You're probably not all the things that come with not feeling abundant. But as soon as you feel abundant, it triggers all those other things. So 1 limiting belief can domino a lot of other things because they're all wrapped up and you not feeling abundant. You not putting yourself first. You not prioritizing your your care. So once you prioritize your care, well now you're working out. Well now you're eating healthy. Well now you're going to bed
early. Well now you're drinking water, we'll now So if those weren't limiting beliefs, those were just by byproducts of you not putting yourself first. So it's also interesting to understand the mind and how it works because Sometimes it's not a limiting belief that I can work out every day. It's the learning belief that, oh, you deserve the time to work out every day. So we can cover many different subjects, self love, you know, grief, so many things I'm blanking right now. Spiritual.
The big. That's that's the beauty of it is because if someone came in with wanting to take their career or their business to the next level, but they're not seeing themselves as worthy or capable or I don't have the the right degree. Or I don't have this, but they have passion and the drive to do it? That seems like something you could work with that would help them say, okay, why are you holding yourself back. You know... Oh, yeah. Like Am worthy is the number 1 but the statement that we do.
I am worthy. I am enough. I am deserving those are massive statements that can... When you feel deserving, now you feel deserving of everything. When you are worthy, when you are enough, now you're are worthy for everything in your life. So, yeah, there's really big blanket statements that you can do that can change a lot. So how did you come up with the name for your podcast, the medium in the middle?
Setting on a bar, And so I knew I wanted to make a podcast for months, and I bought the equipment and I post practicing recording, and I was trying to find the spot where It wasn't echoing, and it was months and months and months, but I didn't have a name, and I was like I can't start until I have a name.
And I had a friend visiting that I used to work for at work with at Lulu Le back in Ontario, and she was visiting Ban and she came to visit me when I was working at the restaurant and we went downstairs to the bar to have a drink. And I was like, I just can't think of
a name. Like, stuff the medium, medium stuff, stuff, them, you know, you're doing your flow charts and you're writing all your words and you're trying to find them and you're going online to the word creators, and we were just like, kind of ad living and talking about it. And I was like, I can't start till, I have a name. And then she turned to me, and she was like, what about medium in the middle? She was, like, like, Malcolm in the middle,
but you're... The medium in the middle. You're in the middle, and I was like, Oh my god. That's it. I, like, paid my bill, and I went home, and I was like, I can now begin, like, medium in the middle of. Mh. And it's just Yeah. It's perfect because I'm in the middle. Like, whether you're medium, whether you're doing Rei key, what no matter what I do I am in the middle. Stuff is in the middle. So even though people are like, well, you don't even do mediums ship readings. I was like,
I'm still a medium. Whether or not you do mediums ship readings. Are still a medium. Fyi, everyone. So Right. When I first saw medium in the middle, what I thought was oh, she's the conduit. She's between the realm. She's between spirit and here. Which made perfect
sense. That was perfect. And you're... You've been really open about that this isn't a a time in your in your career and in your work where you wanna do 1 on 1 readings, but you're exactly spot on or bang on for the Canadian that you you really don't have to be practicing that as a medium to b 1 because it's something intrinsic to all of us. And I really believe it comes more naturally to some people, but we all have the capability to
connect with spirit. Yeah. I agree. And I connect with spirit all the time, Like, this morning, my mom was getting her nails done and the woman's son's passing away, and I'm, like, giving her a reading over text message. You know, I was doing a Rei master's course last week and the woman's daughter was passed away. We were talking to her daughter. Like, I still use mediums ship all the time. But do I wanna be sitting in front of someone 1 on 1 for 10 readings a week every week? No. That's not my
passion right now. Do I do mediums ship all the time? Yes. Does it happen all the time. Yes. I teach about it. I help others. I host circles. I love mediums ship, but for me to do it 1 on 1 as my full time job. It's... I have so many other things on the list of things that I'm obsessed with. Just like it's not number 1, and it's not number 2, so something has to give. And if it's something that you're meant to do more of an... In your practice, spirit will make sure you know that. Oh,
yeah. Because we all grow and evolve in in it it shifts and changes. The longer you do this. So I I absolutely love that you respect that. But it seems like the focus of you work is to empower people with their own ability to connect with spirit and to gain confidence in how they perceive the information coming through. Yes. I always joke. My grandma hates on me for this. I wanna put myself out of business. I don't want people to think that they need people like me and you.
You know, it's beautiful for the help. It's beautiful for the support, but eventually, I don't want you coming to me. Eventually, you have your own glasses. You understand. You know these things. You have the ability to do it on your own. So I like how helping people at those beginning stages, getting up on their feet to be like, okay, you can do this. You can, you know, connect on your own. I can teach you how to do everything I do and then getting them up and running, but
I always joke. I wanna put myself out of business. I wanna teach everyone how to do this on their own so that they are confident that they don't need people like us. Brett, I agree with you a hundred percent, and I also think that it is... There's more than enough to go around. So when I see people in this work who are being competitive or fearful or well, I can't promote someone else because it's gonna take away from me.
That's not the way it works. Where we're trying to cast a wider or net and so many people right now need a helping hand. There's there's a lot of grief. There's a lot of he, something that you don't offer, but I know about you, which I love is that you're incredibly astute with business. So do you do... I know you do mentor our work? Do you encourage other people who are already doing this work, do you mentor more for skill set, What is that part of your business like?
Yeah. So I do a mentorship program where I take people on for 3 months at a time, and we work together. My focuses are Ricky, mediums ship development and business development. I always say those are my wheelhouse, and that's what I'm best at. But I've had people do the program for different things. I had 1 woman who worked for Nascar, and she was a consultant, and she hired me because she had just
said I like your business sense. You know nothing about my industry, and it'll be interesting to get your perspective on my problems. And we work amazing together. She was, like, okay, This is what's going on? And what do you thinking? And I was like, is this possible Is this possible? Could you apply this? And she was, like, Wow. Great idea. Never thought of it that way. So I have an application process to make sure I believe I can help you. Again, that integrity piece, I'm not just gonna
take your money. I'm not just gonna work with you if I don't think we're a good match, especially 3 months at a time. We have I have to think I can help you. We have to vibe. We have to get along. So, yeah, Rei development, medium ship development. And then if you're starting or growing a business, I love business. I'm so double capricorn that I love procedures. I love numbers and I know you're like this too. I love tracking. I love year over year growth. I love
figuring go out to make money. I love And while, I don't like to talk about that side of things because if you're in this industry to make money, you are doing it for the wrong reasons, and you will not be successful. Just point blank period. So Mh. I can never lead with the money portion because, yes, I love making money, I'm good at it. My business is very successful, but that is not why I do this. And as soon as money becomes your focus,
you will fail in spirituality. You will. I'm guaranteeing you. Spirit does not support that. Spirit supports abundance and Spirit support being in integrity and working for the right reasons and having a greater cause, that's not money. Does the money come? Yes. So I really watch how I market my business stuff because I don't wanna say, hey, work with me to make 6 figures. Hey, Work with me to be you know, fully sold out. Hey, Work with me to... Well, know. If you don't have your your base.
And if you're not in integrity. And if you're not doing this for the right reasons if you're not ready, and if you haven't done the work, none of that stuff comes. And no matter what I can teach you, you're not making 6 figures in this business if you're not doing it. For the right reasons. Or you're not going to have a consistent client base or you're not going to continue
to grow and evolve. Yeah. No. And you and I are on the same page with that as far as ethics and integrity and taking the high road and and often people think... You know... I've been quite open that there are a lot of people that are doing this for different reasons than what I perceive as is service work. And they struggle or they're they're successful, very successful for a short period of time, but I've never seen it sustained.
No. And especially going into year 5 of working full time, and I work 6 to 7 days a week, so there's lots of business to be at. I tell people not to give me money probably more often than not. Oh, you don't need this course. Oh, no. You don't need to do again Oh, you've been trained once. You don't need to train again. Oh, no. You could do that on your own. The amount of messages and Dms and emails where I say, no. You don't have to book that. Or no. You don't need that. Come
on. You know you don't need that. It's just that's what keeps me abundant is I am honest. So same thing with my mentorship. If I don't believe I can help you or if I don't believe I can take you to the level that you wanna go, I will say that. I'll say, hey, don't think I'm the greatest fit. I think you probably need someone else. I think, you know, I don't wanna just take your money and waste your time.
I will refund people. I just had a woman where she was, like, wanting to build a business and then 3 sessions in as we were building and building and building. She was, like, I don't want this. She's like, I didn't. I had no idea what wasn't it and I can't do... Like, no. I've I thought about it, and this isn't what I want. And I was like, okay Great. Do you want me to refund you for the rest of the program because I don't wanna waste your time and I don't wanna
take your money. She was like, what? Like, oh, integrity, Like, it's so simple. Yes, I will send you back that money. I literally made it back 4 times 3 days later. Right, Because you're taking the high road and you're doing it. In collaboration with spirit. This isn't a... It always knows. But oh, hell, yes. You just have to listen. Listening the hard part. But especially in this the the the energies right now are a little bit
more fear based. There's a lot of stress and anxiety about finances abundant security, stability. So for us to both sit, you know, get out of the way, trust spirit, do it for the right reason, highest and invest. I gift a lot of work, and I don't advertise that. Same. I will never... You will never hear me talk all the work I do for free. No. Because it's nobody's business, except the people that I'm choosing to give that too. Yep. But it also is keeping that that cycle
going. It's it's the abundance there's plenty. I don't have and I do the same thing if someone comes to me... Said oh, I wanna take this class, and I already know in my heart that they've far surpassed what I'm gonna be able to offer to them why would I encourage them to do it? That that's not right. It's up morally. Right? Yeah. And I think that leads into a really good point about the ego work of this.
There is so much self work and checking yourself and making sure that your ego isn't surpassing things or you're doing things for Ego, and I think, yeah, the people who give things away for free and promote it. That's ego. You're doing that for yourself. Hey. Look at me, look how great I am.
You should be doing that work in integrity because, like, you like the way you say, like the work of service, Like, you're always doing this in service, and it's true if you're doing it in service and not for the show and not for the publicity Again, your integrity, you're gonna be abundant. Your business is gonna thrive. Everything is gonna flow. If it's not flowing. Have a look at yourself in the mirror. And see.
Right. And that transfer is also into if all of a sudden you're not feeling like yours clear conduit it or you're not getting the messages that you usually get or it's a struggle to bring through the energy through a Ra session For me, that's always a red flag of, u, have I gotten my own way and have I forgotten who I work for here? Yep. So yes, I'm self employed, but I work for spirit. Yep. And and and I think that abundance can present
in a lot of ways. And for me, abundance is when I can get out of the way and let those messages come through. And people say, oh my god. That's amazing. And I'll say, no. It's not me. I I sit here like a hand puppet. And and it comes through me not from me. But you made a really good point a few minutes ago is that you've trained. You've done a lot of training, a lot of certifications, a lot of work to get yourself to the level where you can be such a clear conduit.
And that's a really important factor. And I like to remind people how long that takes because I know it's easy to see me now in your 5 of business but that's year 5 of full time business. That's not the years before of I can't stress enough how long I worked 7 days a week. I cannot stress that enough. I don't have kids, and I don't have a partner. So when I say I work 7 days
a week, I really mean it. And that was years and years and years of working a full time job and having 3 part time jobs, working a full time job and doing Rei after work on my days off before it work. I used to know that about my, like, internal clock was every 6 weeks. I needed 1 day off, so I didn't burn So every 6 weeks, I would take 1 day off, and then I would keep going
on the cycle. So the comparison trap, I like to warn people do not compare your chapter 1 or 2 to someone else's chapter 20. When you've been doing this for 10 years, yes, It's easy. When you've been doing this for 6 months? Yes, it feels like work. I like to compare it to learning piano. And if you bought your child, piano, a piano, what end piano lessons? What would you say? You better practice 20 minutes every day after school because how are you gonna get better
at Piano. I didn't buy you that piano for nothing, and you would make them practice every day because how do you get better at piano? You practice. You go to your lessons. You'll do your titles. Spirituality is the same thing. What do you gotta do to get really good? You practice every day for 20 minutes you meet other people who play Piano, You go to Piano titles. You talk about Piano, when you're bored, you do Piano. That's how you get good and you're not
good in your first 6 months. Some people are. The some people are. But you're good in year 3. You're really good in year 5, and then there's people like you where you're the masters where I'm like, you can tell. You've been doing this for years, and I go to those people, go to the people who have been doing this for 20 years and watch how they work, watch their... Structures, watch how dialed in everything is, that took 20 years.
So I never want people to compare themselves to me or other people because don't know how long we've been doing this and practicing. You are exactly where you need to be. You are developing at exactly the rate you need to be developing at, who You are perfect just where you are, just keep practicing your piano 20 minutes a day. And if you forget for a month, okay. Just practice when you remember. So, yeah. That's American trap is dangerous.
That's a beautiful beautiful way. It's to describe it and to also really bring it home that do it your way, Practice your way. Don't But with the social media with the compare... With all the the... You watch a show on Tv or Netflix that has a medium show that has been so highly edited that they hit everything. Everything... There's no way to ever miss anything. And no disrespect to any of the folks that do that because there are some incredible public mediums at and intuitive that do this work.
But there's also a lot of really good sometimes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. People are really good at the story of things. But you're right. It's it's any muscle that you that you work is going to improve. Yeah. And that's something that I try to share in my Rei level 1 course. So I try to share all the things that took me yours to learn. So for example, boundaries and disconnecting. It took me about a year and a half to realize I could shut this stuff off.
It took me a year and a half to realize I could go to the grocery store and not have noise that I could sit in a yoga class and not feel overwhelmed. That I could go out to dinner and not have to hide in the bathroom in the middle of dinner because I didn't know what was happening, a year and a half I don't want my students sticky year and a I have to learn boundaries and how to shut off. We're learning that on day 1, but that's also the the thing of, like, okay. It took me a year and
a half. Hopefully, it doesn't take you a year and a half, but it might still take you 6 months. Might still take you 3 months. So also, those lessons that take time to figure out what you need. But that goes along with, those are important things to share with people. At the beginning of their journey that you had to figure out on your own. That's
a huge step up. That's a huge hand you know, helping someone step into this more Because when people said, I can never shut it off, and I'm thinking you're gonna either burn out or you're not being honest because you can't sustain at that level. No. And I know I think there's also a fear around o I shut it off. I'm shutting off my gifts. And they'll never come back, and that just makes me laugh because all of the people who are in this work, were we're like, we're always off.
Like, 98 percent of the time we're off unless we're sitting in front of a client doing this work. So Yeah. Trust me, you can be off all day every day. And when you want it on, spirit will show up. It's just about finding that balance and knowing that you do not have to be on all the time and that is how you will easily sync. And it allows you to enjoy being a human being on the planet. And without I everything else up on the sponge.
Yes. I find that's another big mistake people make because they wanna skip the human step. And I'm like, oh, no. No. No. Your heat form doesn't disappear. We're still gonna make mistakes. We're still gonna do human things. We're still gonna have to learn lessons. They're still the hard path. We can never skip the human ness. Know what's fun up there with spirit and the fairies and the rainbows, but you have to come back down to earth when you're
done work. You're still gonna have dishes in your sink no matter how spiritual you are. There's laundry to do, so just finding that balance takes years. Years. Yeah. It and it... You're right. It does take balance and it takes boundaries, and it takes and for me, reminding myself every day that I really feel lucky that I get to do this. Alright. I've got a lot of jobs for a lot of users. Like, this is great. It pays my bills. It takes care of things. I can give my
kids a a quality. I But when you wake up and you realize as well, this is what I get to do today, it's a nice feeling. Oh, yeah. I love. Really nice feeling. I love my work. I love the people that I work with. Like, again, you're sitting in so much gratitude that everything flows really well when you're in doing the right thing. You're doing what you're supposed to be doing and if you're not doing something. Or if you're doing something you're not supposed
to be, Spirit will tell you. There'll be a roadblock, there'll be something in your way. That's right. So you do have an upcoming online rei training in July? Yes. I do Rei trainings every month I teach Rei level 1 and Rei level 2. In July, the course is the 20 seventh and the 20 eighth for the next Rei level 1. And that course is actually special because it is my 80 fifth time, 80 fifth time,
teaching level 1 and level 2. So That doesn't count all of my masters trainings in my advanced courses, but I've taught right now 5 times online. That also it doesn't include your person. So, yeah. So them every month, They're very popular, and I love teaching Ricky. So is it an all day? Event, the 2 days actually. Yeah. So it's the weekend, because you receive the att, you can own... I teach Sue Rei, so we have a lot of rules to follow.
But, you can only receive 22A day, and they do have to be spread out So Saturday, you'll get 2 att minutes, Sunday, you'll get 2 att minutes. So we're Saturday, 1 to 05:30 Mountain Standard Time, and Sunday 1 to 5. And then you'll receive all your att on that weekend, and we cover everything I wish I knew in level 1 and all the helpful tip I've learned over the years doing Rei. So it's my favorite course. Level 1 is a new set of glasses, a new perspective
on the world. So it's such a gift to give to yourself to want to be aware of your energy to want to understand what your body is telling you to want to understand your alarm bells and try to make your life easier and faster. So, yeah, I hold that course very dear to my heart. And I host the monthly. They're very popular. They sell out. I only accept 11 students to your make sure that everyone has a chance to share and talk and get to know each other. And also for the att, it's a lot. I do
22 2 minutes a day. So but that is a lot. That is a whole lot. So if people want to contact you or more information about z what you have to offer, your classes, your podcast, where would be the best place for them to find you? Yeah. My podcast is available anywhere you listen? Medium in the middle podcast. It's available for free on all streaming platforms. And then my website is the medium in the middle dot com. Has my courses, my medium chip circles, my sessions, I work in person in Ban
Alberta, and virtually, But... And then on Instagram, I'm at medium in the middle. Tiktok medium in the middle. I'm medium in the middle everywhere. You can find things. Pinterest, Youtube. We're all over. Well, thank you so so very much for doing this with me steph. You really, I can feel your passion for this work, and I'm sure your students feel very supported and inspired and know that they're incapable hands. So thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me on, and I hope my students
feel that way. That's the cool. But I appreciate it. I lose lovely conversation. Thank you. Yes. And for those of you that are listening, remember, there is something special that you came to share and just take a minute and look within and say, what is it that I'd like to would I like to grow and evolve and enjoy my time here. So thank you for listening, and we'll be back with another Sure your light. Pretty soon. Bye.