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BONUS: Heated Rivalry Episode 3 Review

Dec 27, 20251 hr 1 min
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Summary

The Empty Netters podcast reviews "Heated Rivalry" Episode 3, focusing on the burgeoning romance between NHL captain Scott Hunter and aspiring artist Kip. The hosts discuss the challenges of Scott being a closeted player, Kip's supportive circle, and the episode's brilliant storytelling. They explore themes of communication, societal pressure, and the personal sacrifices required in a high-profile sports career.

Episode description

Holy smokes the Scott Hunter episode!! Did not see that one coming. This was somehow more emotional than episode 2 which we didn’t think was possible. So many GOATS in this one, it was hard to keep track. We need more of Kip’s dad!

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Transcript

Introduction: Episode of Goats

Okay, folks, we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Deep into episode three of Heated Rivalry, our new favorite show. I have a few things to say right off the top. Number one. I'm calling this the episode of goats. There are so many goats in this episode. I that's actually true. I didn't even know you were gonna say that, but that is actually true. Number two, and Sean, I think you agree. Absolutely my favorite episode so far. Absolutely my favorite episode so far. And finally

Scott Hunter: Character & NHL Nicknames

Scott Hunter, I fucking knew it. I called it from episode one. Did you say he was gay? I was like I was like Scott Hunter knows and I wouldn't be surprised if he's also. Okay, yeah, because I'm dealing with this. I didn't know that. But you were got you guys are way on that he knew. Clockin' it. He was clocking it. He's a seasoned pro. In more ways than one. I will say

In the Scott Hunter timeline. Yes.'Cause I I said to Sean, I had a little chat, Sean, before you got in, and I I was like a for a show that has flashed forward at an alarming rate. I could not believe When we started bringing backwards out of the thing. It's like a Tarantino movie. We're just jumping around constantly. We are it's like this is a combination of Tarantino and Nolan and we're just all over the place. This is f this is unbelievable. Uh we but Replace

the gratuitous violence with gratuitous romantic sex. Right. Now I guess we have heated rivalry. That's the formula right there. We didn't go back far enough. And I suppose this could still happen. Yeah. But now that well I've had this episode, I still can't believe the no I I thought at least in this episode we'd get the confirmation that it mattered that he was in the hotel room next to them.

And we still don't. You know, like I was like, Was that still a throwaway thing? Maybe in maybe eventually when sh when it comes out between Hunter and Hollander, he'll be like, I was in the room next to you. I fucking know. Yeah. Maybe that still happens. But right now I'm like, Well we know from this episode that he definitely does know from a certain comment he makes we'll talk about later. Yes. Yes. I also love All of the interactions with Scott.

Looking back on them now, he's making these comments intentionally. And I'd like to all the I'm not gay. And he's like I'd like to think that he's he's offering an olive branch to Shane.

By the way, I want to acknowledge and thank all of the people in the YouTube comment section, A, educ helping us, educating us on all of our questions, B just being along for this ride and being so wonderful. But people uh came out, I guess the rosy was a um captions I don't want to say error, but Rachel Reed apparently has has come out and been like, Shane would never call him Rosie.

And I'm here to say, I wish he did. Me too. Because I'll tell you what, my one I was gonna get into this later in this episode, but I'll just say it now. I think my one complaint with the show is the lack of NHL nicknames. We don't call people their name ever. Literally ever. Like i uh it is so rare for a guy to be called by their their last name or their first like it's always a nickname. And Rosie is such a good nickname.

Every everyone would call the entire team would call it. For Rosinoff. Like that is perfect. He I uh so I'd like to call him That's what I'm calling with permission. Yeah. I'd like to call him Rosie. Consent great nickname. Consent king. And also I really love like a I think Hollander could be like I mean, Holly is too easy, but like Hall's is a great one.

I was actually laughing, Dan. I had this same thought and I was like, Oh, why wouldn't they call him Holly? And I was like, Oh, he should have put Holly in the phone that would have been the good girl. Would have been great. But I was like, That might be too close to people be like, This is Ashley and Holly. But like Hall's shit, Holly, those are great ones too. Yep. So anyway.

Scott Hunter's Flashback & Controversy

We get this great shot, Scott Hunter's reaction. So we're like, we're off to the races. We flash back. Yeah. Holy shit. We've got Scott Hunter running down the streets of New York City, captain of the New York ad. Admirals? I think so. Yeah. Uh Unbelievable moment. I got pissed though besh He looks fucking ripped too. Kinda translucent shirt, bro. With only sweaty down the ab line. I mean That actually was that actually was sick. I wrote I was like, Jesus Scott.

Good lord. Uh that actually pissed me off though because I got to I watched late last night and you two had already chimed in on the thread saying it was your favorite episode. So I was like, no spoilers, so I was I knew I was going into something good and I got so pissed right away because

they go in the the radio or maybe it was Man on the Crease again. Yeah. But it was Man on the Crease again. Somebody was like, Scott Hunter has been bad. He hasn't scored in in six games or whatever. He has zero points to start the year. And They go They were like, and he's been named Team USA Captain. I did see that you mentioned this, and it's I think it's important to mention because it was rude.

Dude, the thing Sean goes. Little dig. Yeah. Little dig at the Yanks. They go they go, this year Scott Hunter has zero points through six games. After coming off last year, w his best year ever with seventy points. And he's now captain of team USA and seventy points, dude.

I was like, I'm Okay, well all right. Let's not let's not I if I had seventy points in the show, I'd be very happy with myself. Me too, but we will be respected and appreciated. We are just as good as Canada now and our best players. have a shitload of points. Yes. And that's that's all. That is all. That's all. That is all. Fuck you. Yeah. That's how I feel about bat. So I got off to a hot start.

Kip's Introduction: Smoothie Shop Flirting

So we got Scott running down the street of New Streets of New York as the captain of the New York hockey team. And he pops into strawberry. Is it called strawberry? Yeah, I think so. It was a straw plus berry or something. Yeah, like it's like straw something berry or whatever. But he j jumps into a uh a smoothie. And we see Kip sleeping on the job. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Only to find out, though, because Kip is working his ass off. Now.

Complete and utter hunk kip. Yeah. I mean, we've got just two rockets here. Unbelievable. But he comes in and immediately they start flirting. Chat. There's some good chat. Chat, chat, chat. Good banter. There's a little bit of tension there. And I absolutely love the decision here. No other patrons in the show.

Allows Scott to to be like let it fly a little bit. Like he's like, you know, here we go. I mean, this guy's cute. He's got good banter. Hunter think it's appropriate to walk into public stores in that shirt. Well yeah. I think I if if more than just Kip were in there, if more than just Kip were in there, I don't think he was allowed to go inside. That shirt's not that.

It's just an underarmo shirt. Well the He looks like he was swimming in it. He looks like he was swimming in it. I will say I don't think it's appropriate for anyone else except for people with a Scott Hunter body. Yeah. It was a I mean If you are a sweaty boy, which I think Scott Hunter clearly is. Uh, and you're running in that white shirt. You have to be aware.

Yeah. Yeah. But I do I think Sean's right. I think when you're ripped up like that you're like Yeah. Who am I? If I was that shredded I'd do like a reverse Winnie the Pooh thing where I just I'm never wearing clothes from the waist up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I would hey, I wouldn't blame you. Yeah. I wouldn't blame you. So he goes in there, they're letting it fly a little bit. He gets the blueberry smoothie with extra banana because that's how Kip likes it. We love to see it.

And I love Scott flexing the NHL money. Gives him a big fat tip. Kim is like, whoa, can't accept this. And he's like, Yeah, you can, dude. Yep. I got you. Now we've got the coworker, drops the girl on. She's like, girl. God damn. So I thought That was sick when the kid came in after too. That was really awesome. Cause we needed it for Kip to to know who it was. But I also loved that comment, acknowledging like that was there was tension.

But also we've got a we've got a friend. Kinda like Svetdy. Did you guys know ahead of time? Or I guess you maybe guess, but uh it like'cause clearly in that combo with Kip, I was like, oh shit. Scott's gay I I wrote in my gay Well that's why that's why I wrote at the very top with his look. I was like Scott is we are about to get Scott's gay storyline because I was like Scott is gay.

I was I I was clocking it episode one, dude. Yeah. I was like Scotsky two. I thought it might have been like a red herring thing, like that was gonna be the drama of this episode. Is that

Scott was giving gay vibes but wasn't gay. Yeah. But and then that was gonna be like the heart wrench of it all. But it didn't go that direction. I'm very glad that it didn't go that direction. I was sh I was stunned and I also said to s to Sean before you got in, I w we both love how this show takes every opportunity to do the gayest version of the story beat. So like in the smoothie They c it could be any ingredient. But it's gotta be extra banana. But he's like a s extra banana?

Hell yeah. Yeah, right. Like I really appreciate that for the show. You know, it could have been like, oh, I added blueberry to this smoothie and it's like boom. Yeah. Genius. Added some raspberries. No. Yeah. No. Pass. Well, raspberries are kind of cute. Giving people raspberries up and down your belly. Add a fucking frozen banana. Yeah, come on. That's great.

Uh I uh uh I think I mentioned this in episode one, but this this was a cool moment for me with these two here. Again, kind of being Scott, the only patron there in the store. Um, here another question to to the listeners. We talked about gaydar and I uh gay guys and like they're like acknowledging each other. I wanna know like is that a thing? Like even if you're closeted, like is it

Is banter moments like that prevalent?'Cause like I was I thought it was awesome. Attention, I was like, Oh fuck. Like

Kip's Life & Community Representation

Like I said, again, being the only guy in there, you could feel that Scott was like, I got an opportunity here. This guy's fucking a babe. I gotta make it I gotta make a play. I have something to say about that layer. Okay. So we get the uh reveal from the the other person comes in, he's like, Holy shit, was that Scott Hunter? Then we see uh Kipper reading the newspaper. Yeah.

I I I get that's twenty fourteen, but I d there was something I loved about it. I was like, I don't think I was reading the newspaper in twenty fourteen, but I think it works for Kip, because Kip's kind of a classic man. Yeah, he's a he's a Finder Things club. Yeah, he is. And I was like, this is I l I loved the newspaper so good. We get uh him and his friends in the this ga w uh gay bar, gay sports bar. Yeah.

Awesome. And uh what did he say it was called? I've got the name written down later, but it was a great it's a great name. I can't remember. Um I'll get to it. I'll get to it. But something I wanted to know uh clock see if you guys clock. Kips with Elena in the bar. And They are they order Chinese food from a different place, go to their favorite bar where their friend is a bartender at. And eat the Chinese food in their favorite booth.

I uh if there's anything on planet Earth that I need in my life. It's my local watering hole that lets me bring Chinese food in because I'm homies with the boss tender. Yeah. That was the thing. That was like I was like fucking holy hell. And that let me put on let me put on whatever I want on TV. They're like, here's the remote. That was awesome. But I don't know if you guys

c felt this or clocked this. We have Kip and Scott with a nice flirtatious moment. Yep. Kip's reading the newspaper, seeing that he had hat trick. Then we see him watching in the bar. I felt like Kip was the representation of so many people in this community. watching and loving heated rivalry and now watching and loving the NHL. Yeah. Like that I th I was like, this is incredible. Like the the kip kip is representing so many.

Right now. And it was just great. That's such a good call. That's exactly what was happening. Right? It was just so cool. It was so well done. Subtle, but also like made total sense that Kip's like just hockey. This guy's fucking hot. I'm like, we had a vibe. I'm gonna watch him play. This is great.

Scott and Kip's Second Encounter: Banter

So Scott comes back in. He and Kip are flirting again. Uh, we have Scott being like, Do you mind if I answer some emails here? They have their little serial killer b banter. Yep. I learned something there. Spree killer. Didn't know the spree killer. Really, really bold move for like one of your first flirtatious encounters to bring up like serial murders. That's special. That's that's that's my fastball. Yeah. I get it out of the way. I I get I gotta I've gotta rip that bandaid off.

It's important. I love that he was a reader though. I was into I was into like Scott. I s I wrote I was like I gotta get Scott in book club dude. That that's w that he's my time to play NHL guy. They um they they I feel like we established like a lot of shared interests early here with the two of them. But so as they're chatting, you know, Kip's kind of cleaning up, we get the we're talking about the superstitions, they bring up playoff beards.

Kip says you guys look like hot hot lumberjacks. We get a brief moment, a brief pause. Oh, Kip's like, fuck, I went too far. But then He invites him to moment of vulnerability that was just awesome. Like felt like a miss. He was like, fuck. We were vibing. I took a swing. It didn't work. But then you buddy, you hit it out of Here's my qu here's here's the first issue of uh first um instance of my questions to the comments in this episode.

I have always heard that the gay dar is a thing. So I I completely buy it when I'm watching these shows and they're just like immediately flirting because I'm like, how? But it's because I would never do that to a girl. At the like the smoothie place, you know, like we're in one now. It's like no. But I so I completely buy that Gator is a thing and they are going. But I've always wondered. Eventually though, you have to

Take a shot. Take raise the flag. Right? Like I know you think and you're like, Trust me, I know. I can tell I can tell he's gay. I can tell we're vibing. But surely at some point you have to go Say a thing that you're like, I'm gay. Yeah. Whether it's that or this. So I always wonder how to navigate that moment. Yeah. Is this accurate? Because I loved this where he's like, plus you look like hot lumberjack. But I'm like, Okay, so you're gay.

No, dude. Yeah, that yeah. Well I was gonna say maybe not a hundred percent, but you're yeah, you're probably right. If you're vibing with this dude and then you go, I like how the hockey players look like hot that is him going, I'm I'm attracted. I would lean in to kiss that guy if I was straight. And if he went like this, whoa, I'd be like, What, dude? You are you insane? No, yeah, I think you I think you gotta I think you gotta take a shot. I mean Scott coming back

You could play it like he says, he's like, you know, I if something goes well in my game, I I obsess over it and blah, blah, blah. So it's like sure. But then him being like, I'm gonna stay and answer emails, like Scott's throwing vibe too.

Yes, for sure. So yeah, I think you got it. Yeah, you take a swing. I I g I g assume, right? Because I g I suppose you could not. I suppose you could be like, no, I trust my instincts in this. But I think that's person to person. Yeah. You know, it's like I don't think that's necessarily uh, you know, that's just person to person.

Game Day & Shane's Frustration

But I love that the both of these guys, they went for it. Now we get Kip and Elena at the game. I was blown away with At the game, we're during doing warmies. Yep. Scott's buzzing around out there, gives him a nod. And Elena's like, whoa. Yo. Keeps the books behind him. Then buzzing around gives him a wave. And Elena's like fucking wave back and Kip's like Oh my god, waves back and Scott Scott does another route, waves again.

Loved this moment. It's just like you can see how happy Scott is. He's starting to play well now after meeting Kim. It's great. The one thing I wanted to point out, could you imagine? How hard the hockey girlies of twenty twenty five would be all over this. No, no, no, no. I'm talking all like we'll we've we've become so close with uh this the San Jose Sharks girlies and like the Kings girlies, like uh the

uh these like young female fans of hockey, they're capturing everything. Yeah. Like they are videotaping everything. They're noticing every little thing. I don't know if you noticed after Quinn got traded, someone posted his first game in Minnesota. They were like, Hey, Quinn Hughes fans, I'm new here. Is this normal? And it was a when Quinn just goes ghost on the bench and he's like

Like they capture everything. Yeah. And I'm saying like in twenty twenty five, if this were happening, they'd be like Who is the fucking hot dude that Scott Hunter is waving at? Like it would be crazy. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. I also think they'd be like jealous of Elena because it Elena? Yeah. It was just but like The tension. God, the tension. I loved that moment, but I also thought it was a little based on what I would come to learn about Scott.

I was surprised looking back that he would do a double pass wave. Well, I think yep, we'll get into that. I think I lo I I loved it for a couple of things. One, I love that Elena was there. Because I feel like that's a safety blind. Yes. Anyone could be like, he's waving at Elena.

So you can wave a friend, you can wave at your friends. I'm just saying based on what your boy is I was like You can nod and wave at your boys. That was my next point. Like it doesn't matter. Like that's his boy, dude. He's just waving at his like his homie. Like if We went to a game to see Sway and he saw us in the stands. Like he might be like this, What up? Yep. Safety but I I but I the safety blanket was there. Loved it.

So we then get, you know, a little bit of a montage of games going on and we have a moment where New York is playing Montreal. Hollander, what I believe Shane, certainly as he's established a nice relationship with Scott, gives him a little. Maybe next time we play you can show up. Yeah, I loved how ghast Scott was at the whistle. Yeah, he was talking it's five one. Well that's why Scott's the best dude. He's busting his ass even when the game is over.

He was gassed. I was like, dude, this game is long over. Like Yeah, you're fine. He was gassed. But uh right off of a a little bit of a a quick snippet of Rosie giving him shit.

I loved the rosy when the boys were coming off and he's a big thing. I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. That that's the Rosie I want, dude. Like his pregame cup speech, I was like, chill, dude. But this one, I love it. And also that's act like we we would do that. I'd say I'd love you to make that. That was awesome. Incredible. So Shane gives I I again, what I believe is a friendly nudge because Shane is like the Scott and I have a good relationship at this point.

And h Scott says, You're starting to sound like him. Yeah. And that's what you were talking about, right? Yeah. Oh boy. Shane does not like that. Shane did not like that and a fight ensues. Well th that's the problem. A fight doesn't ensue. They the players, the teammates are holding them back. Yeah. And b I was like w I kinda wanna see what happens when Shane and uh and Scott drop the globus. Yeah.

I don't know if they would ever drop the gloves after a game. You're right. Like uh uh what that would have been a crazy fight. But yeah, like after the game I think they're just like kind of scrumming it up. But that was intense. That was very intense, and I was kinda like Shane God, I mean poor Shane, dude. I I know some I feel like I know Shane so well now. But it's crazy'cause This this is Olympic year, right? It only went back four months. Yeah. Like this is the Olympic year.

It must be so frustrating for Shane to hear that'cause Shane's like, I haven't heard from this motherfucker in sick you know, he's like, I'm barely talking to him, dude. Fuck you. You know? Yeah, well that's I think that's why he gets fired up. But also like I I you know w I can't fucking wait for episode four and beyond because like I think that was a great scene to include because There have been so many comments here and there where Shane is almost certainly like Scott is on.

So that's a rattling thing to hear. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah. I didn't even think about it from what as Chris said, like he he hasn't been like spending a lot of time with them because it's been in that there's been nothing. We need to make a timeline. We do need to make like a timeline. Well the relationships and how they connect.

Kip's Support System & Catering Job

Uh, we then see Kip watching this game and watching that dust up uh at home with his dad. Remember guys, episode of Goats. Kip's dad. Goat. Goat. What a beauty. Just Loving, amazing dad, supportive dad. Love to see. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense why Kip is so. So that was great.

He wakes up in the morning uh at his dad's house. He's freaking out. He's looking for his tucks. Kip's Kip's dad is like, I've got it dry cleaned. It's hanging in the closet for you. Amazing. He goes to this event. We get the sense here. We've learned that Kip uh is applying to school. Yep. He's incredibly intelligent, artistic, trying to get into school, working all these crazy jobs like the smoothie shop and now like this catering job'cause he needs the money for school, et cetera.

Goes to this catering job, shows up late, he's a little flustered, gets his first tray, apologizes to his boy, and is like I'm fucking so sorry, immediately crashes into some strapping handsome man. Bang. Bang. Unbelievable. Well how about that bitch in the scene? What bitch? Fuck was that? Just an ass. New York used to have real way

No, they just hire models. Which is like the nicest burn. Like if I fucked up and I was ready to buy my job and I heard that, I'd be like, Well Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Appreciate that. Sean, the friend, also a beauty. Another ghost. Oh oh oh the the guy who hired him. Yeah, yeah. Like he com he does that, comes in and apologizes and not only is Sean like deep he's like, I can't get fired, he's like, dude.

You're not fired. Yeah. I know you need the money. Also, you're my friend. Deep breath in, deep breath out. Here's a quiche. They're dry. Yeah. You're gonna be fine. Okay. Just another goat. What a great circle that Kip has surrounded himself by so Drew. So he comes back out. Scott gives him a wink, dude. Dude gives him a killer wink. Again. Scott, what I gr what I lo what I know about you now. These are crazy moves. I think questions. Questions It's because we know.

But at this point, they're throwing and catching vibes. Yeah. Scott is like Kip knows I'm hitting on. I know I just people see their eyeballs everywhere. No, not w because we we're watching a show. We're not on to them. No one's on to them yet. Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful, dude. So they chat. Scott invites in invites him to grab a bite, grab some Mexican wheel.

L also love Kip's response to that. He was like, Would you do like Mexican? He was like, Yeah, I'm not a serial killer. Serial killer callback. Also, appreciation for Mexican cuisine. Pimp callback. One of those that was a move by one of those pips, dude. Dude, I couldn't believe that callback. That was awesome. Incredible. But to your point, ballsy. This was this I mean, more so than inviting him to the game. Do you want to grab a bite with me after this? At this point, that is Scott's kip.

Yeah, uh we're doing this. Now guys, Kip comes out after he's done with the shift, they check out the line at the Mexican joint, the line is around the corner. Here's my question for you both.

Scott's Apartment: Hookup & Dynamics

Was that his plan all along? I got the sense it was his he knew about the spot and he knew that it was gonna be a line and this is gonna be his Interesting. Interesting I think it was his plan all along. Was Scott gonna go sit down? B I I think this is this is cheese. This is romance. This is it's it's

A you're not being a dog and going, come back to my place right away. Yeah, I offered. I offered restaurant first. Yep. But that was I think that was a sh I think that was a cheeky moment. I thought the scene was gonna be To get to let Scott do a flex of like cut the line. You know, he's like, Oh, the lines up through and he's like, Hold on, bro. I'm Scott Hunter. And then he was like, Do you want to go upstairs? And I was like, Oh shit.

They go, let's order in. They go to Scott's place. They get in. Kip can't believe how nice the place is. He's walking around looking around in The background of the shot, we see Scott removing his shirt. We get to see those abs for the first time. Thank God. Good God, the man is like if I were on Scott's team, I'd be like, Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Relax. Yeah. Relax. Favorite line of the episode, bro. From both of them.

Again, Scott is so ballsy. Yeah. Drops that shirt and he goes, Do you want the full tour now? Or and Kip goes, Or. I choose or. Yeah. Incredible. That is guys, that's like That's all time That's how you write dialogue. That's just all time fun, cheeky, cute, romantic, hot dialogue. There's a there was a joke during COVID that was going around Instagram where it'd be like

It was a dude listening to a cho a choice and it was like, uh, pick one of the following two options. A, you spend the next, you know, the rest of COVID quarantined with your wife and kid. And he goes, B, be Ha ha ha. This is yeah. That's that that's what's it. Scott goes, Kip, would you like to B B B whatever B is. I want that B. Did me D D I'll take D. D. Skip over B and C That was fucking awesome. That's an incredible moment. So we get our hookup. Again, consent king.

Scott asking if stuff's okay. Frankly, tame hookup as far as episodes one and two, I think. I couldn't tell if it was tamer or if I've just gotten used to it because we've got fair point. Other hookup scenes were so crazy. Yeah. I was like Have I just been desensitized to how like how spicy these hookup scenes are? Yeah, it's possible. Possible. It is possible. Also For fuck's sake, just a couple of hard bodies rolling around.

And and a a couple other I'll tell you what, dude, Kip could play hockey. He's got an he's got a rump on him as well. Kip so shredded? He why is everyone in this universe shredded? They're hot dudes. I that is gay culture though too. Yes it is. Like they uh From my experience in of of in in my gay circle. Like the guys stay fit. We're in LA. There's it's a little bit more. But he sees he sees Scott with his shirt off.

And it's supposed to be like a wow, are like this guy's so shredded. But he's just a shredded Kip's like, just wait till I pop this puppy out. But we saw it when he was getting ready for the catering event. When he's running around, he's underwear. Yeah. Relax, son. Making me look like an asshole. You're right, Dad. Like I don't know how they don't start a fire.

when they're together. It's like two pieces of flint just chipping off of each other. The whole apartment building's gonna go up. There's a funny what I was gonna try to find is there's a funny picture of like male bodies and it's like in gay culture and it's like the dude who you can only see

four of his abs, it's like obese. And you're like, correct. Unbelievable. So Wait, my takeaway from that hookup was it it was actually awesome and a great choice by everyone involved in the project because I legitimately felt the difference. in two dudes getting down that it wasn't their first rodeo. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like watching the other watching the two kids hook up.

was li genuinely different than watching these two dudes like as it would be. And I was like Yes, that was that was wonderful. All of the d dynamics were totally different. I mean, first of all, I think Kip is our first openly gay character. Yeah, true. Yep, that's correct. That's right. That's right. He has like a circle around him where he's able to like communicate things with. Which was so important to this episode. Oh my god. Yeah. So I wanna say too Um the uh this fucking episode.

Morning After: Romance & Smoothies

as we were talking about being our favorite episode so far, few times have I seen an episode of television introduced More or less with Scott, two brand new characters, and I know everything about them. Like uh we're not even halfway through this episode, and I feel like I know both of these human beings like I've known them my entire life. Just brilliant stuff. So they hook up. Scott wakes up to Kip getting dressed. He's like, I was gonna sneak out, you play Insane.

Why? You would leave. Dude, if you banged You're out of your mind. Austin Matthews. You're out of your mind. You got Team USA, captain of Team USA, just asked me upstairs, and I have the night of my life and I'm going like this. I gotta get out of it. I would have my mail forwarded there by morning, dude. Your I would be fucking living. Are you insane? No.

But I don't think that that I think it's again, Kip is just such a gentleman. Like he's like this was such an incredible gentleman don't leave in the middle of the night, Dan. Unless you are trying to protect your man. Unless you're trying to be respectful and understanding of his situation, which is exactly what he was doing. He literally says that. He goes, Uh you uh you play later. I I I don't want to mess up your routine. I was just trying to sneak out and let you.

He's a gentleman. And then Scott. is like, will you please stay? Lovely. So fucking lovely. So he stays, they sleep the night, and Scott wakes up and comes out to find and Kip making the blueberry banana smoothie. The roller coaster of emotions this episode is. So, like first fourth, we're riddled with tension. Just like. Heated, passionate tension. Now this we are we are in the honeymoon phase of like just Adorable romance. But then the whiplash I got here. He makes it, Scott comes around.

Picks up Kip, ki legs wrap around his. And Scott then says, Can I fuck you? Horny moment, bro. Horny moment, but I'm gonna say that can I fuck you was so fucking romantic, but also not as horny as the pickup. The the pickup made me audibly guess. W I was like sweating with that pickup. Again, these two hard bodies, one of the most Just adorably romantic gestures of all time making that smoothie. And then that p I w I literally went, oh Scott. Like I was like, oh my god damn.

I really liked how uh how Kip was like apologizing for all of the things that m that Scott might have been offended by, like going through his fridge and everything else. I'm like, Kip's such a a thoughtful But also like worrisome character. Yes. That's kinda nice to see. Like he's worries when he's at the waiter job. He's worried about like everything else.

It's nice to see like everything's kinda coming up kip. Yes. Sean, agree. I also wanna say sorry and I know you have a thought. I do wanna say, and this is a a question for the listeners, I felt That it was a really nice touch. Again, I feel like a lot of shared interest with these two. But when he was t apologizing and being like, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to snoop, but like you're very organized.

Yeah. I thought that was a nice touch because again, a lot of my gay friends very organized and like very they meticulous with their setup and all that. And I was like, that was a really nice touch. And I w I wanna know if that is like what was a good clock or it's like, uh no, not all the time. But that was great. That was awesome. I my thought watching that scene was that was one of the great moves.

I've ever seen. By Kip. Uh oh well the spaking this movie was amazing, but Scott no, I'm talking about the Scott swoop into Can I Fuck I was like, this that's the one of the greatest, most dominant plays I've ever seen. I need to add this. Yeah. And then I was like

Scott's Confession: Why He's Closeted

Is this is that just a guy thing? No, dude. If I scooped a girl up and said, Can I fuck you? And she'd go like this, holy shit. I think so. Okay because I wanna add it. Think about everything that's happened. Yep. If all of those amazing moments, lovely things and gestures happened, absolutely I think that'd be a good idea. But do I need it'em all? Did she have to try to sneak out in the middle of the night? I've asked her to stay. Yeah.

Okay, well then that's never gonna And think she's gotta make the smoothie? Too many things that have to lead up to me scooping that allow the possibility of romance into your life. Yeah. I just wanna be able to scoop the scoop and can I fuck you. I think that that could totally happen. Dude, that was that was all time. Hottest time. I could not believe that. Now we have a great conversation at the kitchen island here. I think is the most important scene of the show. Ooh.

So I thought this scene was amazing. So here we get Scott's big request. He's like, Hey, I I love I I I want you to be here when I get home from practice. I want you to be here when I get home from my game. I've never done this, but I want you to be a part of my life. I'm more excited about you than I have been anything in a long time. But he then get

Kip gets the explanation from Scott about why he's not out and how coming out would be too complicated for so many people that he cares about, people that he takes care of, his family. And I just thought The show needed this moment because It come it makes so much sense coming from a vet. Like this guy is a captain of a team. He's been in the league, captain of Team USA.

And this show shining a light on the fact that there are very possibly, if not certainly, gay guys in the NHL and being like, This is why people aren't out. Yeah. It's it's too complicated. And the way Scott explains it, was beautiful. And again, episode of Goats. The way Kip says he'd love to be there when he gets back was fucking chills. Just like the understanding

was beautiful. It's why I love Kip and I w love these two relationships. So as I talked about the roller coasters of emotions in this episode, we're now in the like Oh w I feel like we're all completely in love with these two as they are in love with each other. Yeah. I like I finished the the second episode. We it it ends on a cliffhanger. Yeah. And I wanted to know what was gonna happen with our two protagonists.

when I realized that this was gonna be an episode that wasn't gonna include them at all I was like, Oh, I kinda wanted to know what happens with it. But after going through episode three, I don't really care about our two main protagonists now. I wanna see more Kip and Scott. I know. And if like if this show doesn't spin off into the Kip and Shot Scott show, I'm gonna be devastating. And it's nice to see I think like going through so much drama.

uh in the first two episodes, it's nice to see two characters who are like actually able to communicate. I know. So like actually able to communicate their problems, their feelings and like understand it.'Cause I hate when drama derives just from miscommunication. Yeah. It's like it's I love it when it's like the the communication is there, but the drama is an external factor. Sharp from show yes. Sharp sharp analysis there. Like going from the two episodes of just

Not being able to say what you feel, constant miscommunications to these two just putting their fucking hearts on the table, putting it in the blender, hitting frappe and putting a blueberry banana smoothie is just incredible. Absolutely incredible. But guys, the direction Uh

Art Gallery Incident & Relationship Tensions

on the couch reading with glasses on was the best. Like the costume designer hit it out of the park. Like I've never seen someone look more at home. Yeah, I live here now. Yeah. I was like, God, this is incredible. There was one too many serial killer joke callbacks in Kipp's response to Scott's speech. We had the incredible one already. Yeah. And I was like

Well done. And then we went another one here and I was like, Okay, we didn't need that one. And then he just said it again in the same speech. And I was like, We've we've exhausted the serial killer callbacks. I loved it. I loved the first one. We're done here. Thank you so much. Yeah. Everything else was perfect. Uh then we get a nice little montage of the boys just living. Living, hooking up, loving each other, amazing stuff. The uh extra banana in the shop was was nails.

Um and in this moment, Kip tries to say that Scott is straight and she does she gives him the girl line again. Um but just like we're now in it of these two just like being together, living together then. This was my first, ooh, interesting moment. We get A little discussion about art. Kip wants some art. Scott's like, maybe I should buy some art. Could use some stuff for the apartment. And Kip's like, All right, here we go. So they go to this g gallery, you suppose.

And this part kind of confused me a little bit.'Cause they go to this art gallery, they've been out and about, they've done some stuff, and Scott's like glasses on, cap on, and Kipps being very

uh understanding he's like, Are you good? Like what's you know, like uh how how we doing here? And they go in, they look at something, someone working at the gallery comes up and is like, Can I help you out? Are you two looking? And that was a good line. It was like, Are you two looking for something for your home or this or that? And Scott's like, I gotta So he he pieces out Kip goes out really like how you know.

Scott apologized. He's like, I'm so sorry. I wanted to be able to do that. And Kip, amazing, amazing Kip. He shows him g g gives him the grace to understand and forgive him was just like so lovely. Why do you guys think that the gallery was such such a trigger? I was thinking that too. It wouldn't be weird to like

go to an art gallery with your friend. I don't think that that would be an indication that you're a couple. And so it's weird that Scott was like, this is what's going to out me. Like after like the waves and like all the stuff, it felt I was surprised. So may I my po qu asking the listeners, I wonder if in the book

Maybe there's something more intense about that, maybe something there was that we missed. But I was like, oh, it's weird that this is the one where he's like shit. Dude, funny you two reacted that way because I am so 180 with you where I was like I cannot believe He was down to wave. I cannot believe he was down to wink.

And this scene was the scene I'd been waiting for all episode where I'm like, No way would you go to this gallery with him? Okay, so you did feel like are you in the And then when he went there with his hood on, I was like, You need a bigger disguise. Like you need to have

the m the the mustache glasses combo thing. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what are you talking about? And I love the show for Uh you had said something like this earlier, Sean, but this was so clearly here comes the scene where Scott says something so mean about Kip in public to look

not gay. Yeah. And they didn't do that. And then he ap he says the most lovely apology I've ever heard where he's like, That was not he like Kip's like it's okay. And he's like, it's not okay. Yeah. And I know it's not okay. I was like, oh my God. King dude. Like literally my heart was melting. I've said it.

I actually thought it was completely expected and I and this is like such a testament to the culture, so I hate that I'm even saying this, but I thought Kip should have gone, should have done something like, oh, I'm his art. Can so when she goes, Are you two looking for something? I was like hit.

Fucking help help your boy out here, dude. Be like, oh I'm uh he's a obviously a famous hockey player, I'm just his art consultant. And then I wanted Scott to later go, you don't have to do that, or whatever. But I was like, that needed to be the trajectory because I completely get why Scott left because she's asking questions like Is this for your two joint home? And Kip goes, Yeah, we're just browsing. Yeah. Which implies, like, yes, this is for my home. So then Scott runs out and I was like,

I'm sorry that this is the way of the world, but th th that is what would happen. Yeah. And so yeah, I was kinda ready for that. I suppose you call her an art seller? Does she call does she say four-year joint or does she ask like are you buying or are you browsing? That was a good line and they reply and he replies with weak.

Specifically. I just remember Skip saying the word wheat. Yeah. And I was like, Oh fuck. Yeah. Scott's about to leave. And then he Yeah, no, like the way they both reacted, incredible. Um So we then get Kip, uh he's mailing what we presume is his application to college.

He then sees in a bodega something that he wants to get for Scott, grabs him the banana socks. Amazing. Just like so frickin' cute, amazing. And then we also get the call back, can I fuck you? This time Kip. Dude, and and another kind of kind of callback, big window. Big windows. But they're high. Shane didn't care. Or Shane did care. Yeah. Scott, no kidding care. Big windows. All good. Uh also

Wonderful comment section last episode review where I was like, is you always at top? And people were like, Some are some are both. I think it's a verse. Verse, verse. Some are reverse, some are sides. We're learning. I think these guys are verse. 'Cause'cause Scott said can I fuck you? and then Kip was like, Can I fuck you? And then we got verse going which is just fucking beautiful. I like verse. Verse makes me hot shaper because I'm like, dude. No, I think verse is the way to go. Yeah.

Get mix it up, baby. I think it'd be f it'd be fun to be too like deciding who Well also wouldn't it be cool like you go into the bedroom every night. It's almost like a coin flip. I I I was gonna say you should have one. Oh, that'd be cool. You know? Like literally there's just a coin next to the bed and you're like you get a custom coin. You get a custom coin with two f your faces. So now your butts.

It's just each of your butts. Yeah. And you're like, who's the biggest? But you'd know by then you'd make that's that's God. I can pick that butt out of a lineup of a thousand, dude. You i again if it were Rosie's butt, we need a bit coin. Yeah. We need one of those novelty comedy coins.

Gala Event: Elena's Intervention

So Even as cute as the banana socks are, uh this is this is the new loop in the roller coaster of this episode. We're now in kind of the like Okay, things are getting complicated. Yep. And we get that with Elena has a conversation where she calls Kip out for being in love and he's like, I'm in love. They're watching the game. He's like, I've never been happier. I know it's complicated. We see him talking to his dad.

There's so much love there. He's waiting for the college application. He's like, I haven't seen you in a while. But you know, like I yeah, I miss you and and we're starting to feel the tension of like Kipps being like, damn, like this is intense. So he talks to you or he gets a text from Scott and Scott's like there's something waiting in the closet. He goes home, opens the closet, there is a tux there, waiting for him.

I was certain he was gonna open the closet and it was gonna be just space cleared out. Oh being like, That's lovely like move in. That's waste and dude, I thought that I that was about I was genuinely guys, like I was gr My knuckles were clenched. because I was like, that is going to be a haymaker'cause you could kind of feel where this train was going.

Of like event they're gonna have to have this con and I was like, if this fucking comes on the heels of Scopping like move in with me, I was about to die. But although like they're kind of like living together already. The implication is that he's like his dad hasn't seen him, but like you c y I'm not sure if all of his stuff is there. So I thought that was going to be like this haymaker gesture. But it's the it's the tuxedo.

I have something to say about that. Okay. He took a long time to look in the closet. He took I wrote that down too, Chris. I go, I can't believe he waited this long to go in the closet. Especially after all the serial killer talk. It could be someone's skin. Yeah. Leaving the store, I think. Yeah. I have a surprise for you in the closet. And then it c we cut to him like on the couch.

Like looking at the text again or something. I'm like, you the first thing you did with the city. Maybe we can assume he was talking to his dad when he got up. It was a long time. And then uh I empty space is amazing. I thought it was gonna be the art piece. Oh that's a good thing. Oh, that would have been nice. I was actually gonna bum but it was the tux, honestly. I was like a tux? Well you have a million tuxes. This is bullshit. But they're at this gala event. Scott and Elena meet, but

Scott is cool about Elena knowing. Kip's like she found out and like I had to tell somebody and he's like, Yeah, dude, like that's cool. Uh they dance and Elena gives Scott a speech about keeping Kip a secret and she's like, dude Skip is amazing, he's brilliant, and he deserves all the love in the world. And at first I was like

overstepping here a little bit, Elena. Like Scott or Kip literally just told you that he's in love and the happiest he's ever been. This could blow everything up. But then she hit Scott with the and so do you. And I was like Episode of Goats. I was so ready to be like Elena, chill. No, she knows. No, I didn't I didn't like that. I didn't like that. She was which I get.

Oh, I didn't like that line either. That specific line. That's why like at the beginning I was like, Yeah, Elena, come on. I'm like, it's been two months. Yeah. He you're asking somebody to come out after they've been closeted for so long. And I know that's like tough for

for Kip, obviously, but I'm like, Kip also got the golden ticket here. Yeah, yeah. He's in the penthouse, everything he could ever want with the this absolute stud. Yeah. Uh I'm like I think Kip's a stud too. Kip's a stud too. I'm like, I

I just don't think that when you're being like protective of somebody that you necessarily need to antagonize the other person. Yeah. I think that there's a way of doing it that I didn't appreciate how Elena was doing it. But and then you know what, Sean? I hear that. I I like I I like for me She landed the plane a little bit or a lot of bit for me personally with the and so do you.'Cause it was like that that that so do you meant a lot. Like a lot of different things.

I wasn't even expecting it. It almost surprised me because the rest of her speech was so hard. I have something to do about this but I'll save it for a discussion at the end. Yeah, we're we're we're wrapping up here. But in that scene, I couldn't believe when she go you know how she goes, I'll go get drink. And Yeah. I cannot believe that they Kip and Scott were spy talking in that scene.

I was like, talk normally. Dude, why are you two spy talking? You look weird as a spy. I quite like that too, yeah. Literally just speak. You're like at the gala you're like, hello, this is a person at the gala I'm talking to. I thought it was more because it was such an intense conversation, they couldn't if they had looked eye to eye, it would have been too intense. I'll buy that they would have started crying. Yes. But I think if I saw two people spot talking at the gal, I'd be like,

Something something going on over here. What the hell's going on with that? And this is Scott's event. Like I What the fuck?

Birthday Dilemma & Kip's Family

Uh so here Kip invites Scott to come to his birth his birthday's coming up. He wants him to come to the Kingfisher. Kingfisher's the name of the game. King, yep. Uh and he's like, you can just come stop by, say hi as my friend, it would mean a lot. And Scott's like, I can't do that. I'm so sorry. And then he also gives him he's like, Hey, like

I'm in this with you. In a few years I can come out and we can have a normal life, but like it's gonna take a while. And Kip, again, the goat is like, dude, Th this is back at the place and he's like I totally get it and I get when you made your speech. You're protecting your family. But I have a family too. I miss my dad. To like to literally and this is how every relationship should

Just say how you fucking. I wrote both these guys have been so reasonable and respectful. Yes. Like it's actually it's just and and Chris, this is such a great example of in TV and film you can do this and everything can be great stuff. Yeah. You don't need all of this.

Oh, I c don't know how to communicate. I don't know how to speak. There's just as good of drama and just as good of emotions if you just say how you fucking feel. Scott planned surf and turf. It's not like he was like, I'm not doing anything for your birthday. He's like, I I wanted to do something. Unbelievable.

Um so Kip is like, dude, I love you. They both say I love you, which I was like, Oh, me too. That was a great one. That was a great L bomb, so smooth. But he says he misses his family, misses d his dad, and he heads home. We then cut back to hearing Scott's story. of how cool when he was twelve, his parents died, got hit by a drunk driver, he was taken in by this uh presumably church or charity, and he has gotten involved in this charity because they gave him hockey and they gave him a Amazing.

The end of the episode two two moments. Three moments actually. Kip gets home, his dad has mail for him, and he's like, it's he feels pretty big. Implication that he's gotten into school. And Great subtle acting by Kip's dad there of he's being a little like not as lovey because he's like, Fucking hey, man, where you been? Yeah. Then he sees Kip is sad. They forget about the male. All he's worried about is taking care of his son. His boy. Incredible. Truly incredible.

Scott's Backstory & Episode Ending

We then see Scott watching Kip at the Kingfisher. Like, catch me if you can, Vines. Like he's just like he showed up in his own way. In the Groucho M in the heat In his art gallery. Yeah, he's like he's a creepy guy outside. But then we flash to Sochi. We're now now back to the timeline of the show. Scott's still wearing his banana socks. Gold medal game. Cute as hell. End of episode three

Did Canada win? I can't remember if they said that. Um I don't know. I don't remember actually. He says he's like, Hey, it's a gold medal game. So USA's in the gold medal game. Yep. That'd be cool if we got a retroactive gold medal. Amazing, dude. Yeah,'cause we came fourth in twenty fourteen, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

So we'll get into our awards and final thoughts, but I think you had one thing to say first. Yes. The cause I said Sean, I was like, I l I left that up. You guys had primed me, that was so sick, and I left that episode kind of reeling in a lot of ways where I loved the ep, but it was there was so much depth, so much more depth in that episode than the other two by a m my miles. Yeah. But I was also missing

like the boys, like my light hearted boys. It was like so fun watching them navigate and like be funny and mean to each other, whatever. Um And I I I like Christ. There like there was almost

Sadder. No, the God, the ending of this one was so sad too. It was equally so sad. I I was not prepared for how much this show is going to break our and I don't know if you guys have been seeing the comments on the YouTubes. People are like, wait for episode four boys. You think your hearts are broken now. And I was like, Fuck me.

Post-Episode Discussion: Reactions & Challenges

Fuck. Um but i to go back to the Elena speech and just in general, and I think obviously I skew towards Like I'm biased towards the hockey player in this story, right? As like we're navigating the story and a ton of fans are watching the show not as a straight hockey player, right? Sure. It is hard. I I think to take right now, this is 2014, right? But take right now the

The waves, the ripple effects, if an NHL player right now, a a star was like this. I'm openly gay by the way, this is my boyfriend, would be insane. What oh what how it would ripple through the the league, the world, the community, everything.

And I just sometimes I'm like, man, that is is a massive thing that you are asking of Scott. Like in this point. Like not only is it just a person who's closeted and she's like, please, like, do this for him. He he wants to be shown off and you deserve it too. I'm like, This is an outrageous act. You would you would you would

be jeopardizing his career. Like his entire livelihood. Yeah. And I sometimes think that's not appreciated enough in this. Where like in this drama, they're like, come on, Scott. And I'm like, no dude. That's like I actually watched a show being like, he literally can't. You're asking something he literally cannot do You're s you're stealing one of my awards here. Okay, sorry. Uh let's get into two horned up.

Chris, why don't you start? Okay. I I had a few. This episode is crazy. I guess I have to since I'm going first, I'll just do the uh the carrying, the pick up can I fuck you? Like I I literally was like, oh my god, dude. That was incredible moment. That's incredible game. That that I'll I'll go, Sean,'cause that was mine. The the the the the first pickup after the the banana blueberry banana smoothie. Holy shit. I I'm I'm not kidding you guys. I audibly shouted. Yeah. I was like, oh, Scott.

I was like Yeah. Whew That was hot. Actually you go'cause I don't want to say this in case it's yours, but I thought you were gonna say something else. What's yours? Um It maybe not what you're expecting, but I really liked the the ore.

I choose or. That was horny. I thought you were gonna say that. That was horny. That was the whole interaction. Yeah, yeah. You want the full tour or the shirt on again. I choose or I choose or was really my thing. That's who lagged the the shirt in the first scene. Like him just walking in with that shirt. I was like he's a sweaty guy, dude. He's a he's an elite athlete. I loved that, dude. Um my I don't even know what to do here. Why, what are we doing here?

I have one that you are gonna love. Oh, really? Yeah. My what are we doing here? Uh they're so minimal because I thought this episode was just fantastic. Uh I mentioned it. I I did love the newspaper. I felt that the newspaper was just like It's twenty fourteen. Like we were already on our phones and shit. Um my okay, and I I might have forgotten something, so I need to ask, and maybe you guys remember. Yeah, yeah. When he goes

Uh hey, I come to perfect my game so I have the same smoothie. Yeah. Kip goes, Are you crazy superstitious? Or there's one scene where he's asking about crazy superstitions. Scott.

starts listing his. Do you remember what they are? I don't quite remember all of them. Okay, me neither. And I should have I was watching, it was like two in the morning when I was trying to finish this, so I should have gone back. Cause something happens at the very end of the episode that is either the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen or

A listed superstition. The socks over the banana socks? He put socks over, yeah, but but it's beyond that. Oh. And I thought you were gonna fucking lose your shit. I couldn't believe I didn't have a text from you. Do you know what I'm gonna say? No, what is it? Dude, he puts his

He has the banana socks on and he's like, Gold metal game, dude. And I was like, Oh cool. And he puts his right sock on and then he pulls his left sock on, and that's the last shot of the thing, I think, or or one of them. And he is wearing a sock with an R right on his left sock. Which you fucking hate. Oh my gosh, I didn't clock that. I was like

Did you just put the right sock on your left foot? And I can't remember. Before the comments l kill me. Fuck. I can't remember if at the beginning he goes, Yeah, I'm not that bad. I wear my I wear opposite socks. If he does, incredible incredible shot and intention to detail. If he doesn't say that at the beginning, then you need to be shot into the Disagree. Disagree. Because what if and he says when something goes well for him he needs to do it.

What if one game he accidentally put them on the wrong foot and he played great? But I would like to know that before I zoom in on the R. Sure. There was a And w they might have, they might have. I just can't remember. I can't remember. Specifically zoomed in on the R or just like on the shock? It's on the sock. He's like pulling his sock over and you can see the R on his left foot and I was like, Oh no.

Yeah, comments. Guys, let us know if that's mentioned. Because I don't I didn't clock that. My other one in case that was a great moment. Oh wait, let Sean go. Well this oh yeah, yeah, fair. Um Yeah. I mean it wasn't a lot of hockey in the end. Yeah, there wasn't a lot to be upset about in the end. There wasn't a lot to be upset about at all, except for

Scott being so out of breath while everyone else looks like they just came back from lunch. It looked the it looked like that was a scene implying that Scott can't hang it. Yeah, he was so out of breath in a five one loss. I was like, Why are you getting a little bit too old? But he's only like twenty seven.

Yeah, I think he's right. I know it's it's Kip's twenty sixth birthday. Yeah. And he doesn't look too much older yet. No, no. Scott is uh Scott is young. Like he's a vet, but he's not he ain't old. Yeah. Uh him being so bad on the road was They were like they were trying to show that like Scott likes kept so much that like away from New York. Scott is horrible. He's fine. He's fucking it all. He's a team captain. Um okay, and then my Do I love this? Yep. Was

what you were alluding to and what I made a point to to mention was my favorite part was Scott's explanation of why he can't come out. Again, thought it was so important to the show, so important to this whole story and world. And it was so beautifully done. Every piece of intense conversation in this episode was perfect. Magnificent. Yep. The way the way Sc everything Scott said and the way Kip took it in and the way he responded just. I well, I really liked Kipstad.

Oh, I'm not sure. He might be my favorite character in the show. I want to see more of stat. I'm fearful that we won't see more, but I want to see a lot more. Utterly brilliant. Um but yeah, I think that that again, it's like two episodes in a row, the endings just hit so hard. Haymakers, man. Yeah. Fucking heartbreaking haymakers at the end of these fucking episodes.

Future Predictions & Show's Impact

Uh mine was this is very esoteric one, but uh it was in that moment. And I've just made my speech about h how I feel like what they're asking of Scott is very hard. In that scene post-gala with the old fashions, both dudes. Stood firm. on what they believed they need in this moment in their lives. And I'm not like I I wish they didn't need some of those things. I wish Scott could just come out. But Scott was like, I can't, dude.

But I love you and like I will do things for you and I and I'm presenting a plan. I'm not just going like It'll work out. Like he's like, dude, uh, this is what I need and please be with me. Yeah. And then Kip also going, I need more than that. to feel v you know, vindicated and validated in my life. So I am going to go I'm going to leave and see my family. You know, I just b I was like, oh man. No one caved. No one no one no one caved and no one reacted meanly. Yeah. It was just like

We both love each other and this is what we need and they're not aligned right now. I know. And I was like, Oh my god. What what do you guys think is gonna happen? Do you think that they're gonna have to break up because the timeline's too long for Kip? Or do you think that It's going to force Scott to come out and deal with whatever ramifications that are. I think both, but I think down the line.

Because I think we're gonna see Kip in school. Yes. Again, I don't even want to say this because I will also say this guys in the comments. Don't try not to spoil it. No spoilers. There have been a couple spoilers in the comments and I love you and I love your passion. But we're again we're we didn't read the books and we're we're watching these as we review. So don't don't spoil it. I think they're gonna have to separate for a bit. I think Kip's gonna go to school.

Uh yeah,'cause I I bet it's g far. Like they brought up Boston. Remember, he's like, I know we hate Boston. I was like, Oh fuck, I bet he's like I go to school in Boston. And then maybe Scott's on the road sees him wherever he is on the oh my god. Anyway, Is this a cautionary tale for

for Shane and Rosie, where even if they are super, super commutative and super, super healthy, they still need to be honest with themselves and the public eye for them to be truly happy. I think so. Especially Shane. I think he's gonna be like, this cannot be, dude. You know? Can you fucking relax this episode? This guy's emotional comfort. Dude, do you think I also I also hadn't even thought of this. If this flashes. Like when we go I was also dying thinking about us going.

Like, is this was this written in two thousand nine? And I'm like, did she predict the Sochi Olympics? It never occurred to us that I'm like we're so fucking dumb. We're like, I think you they wrote this in two thousand eight. She's like, Yeah, the elections are gonna be in Sochi. Like, whoa dude, that's amazing. But it occurred to me where I was like, Oh, if she started it in oh eight

w written in twenty nineteen, she probably brings it to twenty nineteen. Like I bet it goes all the way that far. So I was like, holy fuck, dude, now like we're gonna have like full on adult Shane and and Rosie. And that's gonna be a fascinating look you know, I'm I'm so excited to see. and uh and Scott after Scott comes out of the MLH yeah and they

become out that will change that'll make it what a sick prediction that would be awesome. Scott retire we get far enough in the timeline that Scott retires, even though I think he is probably too young. But but but but if we got far enough in the timeline that Scott retires for Kip

Yeah. Yeah. And then it w gave them the c the confidence to do it. That'd be actually a sick ending. Cause some of these books I know um Icebreakers like flashes way forward. I think Pucked goes super far. So some of these books from my experience have like very big big jump endings to get to put a bow on it. So I'm fucking fired up, dude. It's unbelievable. That, folks, is our review of episode three of Heated Rivalry.

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