Glenn Harper [00:00:00]:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to another edition of the Empowering Entrepreneurs podcast. I'm Glenn Harper.
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Julie Smith.
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What's going on, Julie?
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I've been waiting for this podcast
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I know. A while. We got cut short the first time, and so we're gonna do, the first. Part 2. So we're excited about this because I think there's a lot of correlations. As I was thinking about this, there's a lot of correlations between what one must do for their health and those cause of it and what one must do in their business. And it's very similar, but it's opposite.
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Think oftentimes, especially for entrepreneurs, and we're going down a different rabbit hole already because you've got you've got that beautiful intro.
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But Already did that one, though.
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I think that, oftentimes, the business causes the health issues.
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That correct.
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Like, there's a
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lot of
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those things. In effect. Right?
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It's your pain. So we've got doctor Indi Vasquez here again today from live from Colorado, Denver. How are you doing?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:00:54]:
Hello. Good morning. Doing great.
Glenn Harper [00:00:56]:
Well, we're we appreciate that
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you wanna come back again. Bring our viewers up to date with just maybe do your summarized intro in case they didn't get to pass through.
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All or none. There is no summary. Well, then I have to
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put this on 1.5 speed so that you can hear it real fast.
Glenn Harper [00:01:11]:
Alright. I would like to introduce doctor Indigo Vasquez. She is a board certified doctor of natural medicine, BDDSM, MHCPT, hormone health sports performance, hair tissue mineral analysis practitioner, and a formulator. In her spare time, she's a best selling author with the most recent book, Optimize Your Gut, a comprehensive guide to gut healing, gut health and healing. She has made it her mission to diagnose the root problem of her client's health to solve for the cause instead of just treating the symptoms. Her approach to the body and health comes from her belief that it's a waste of time to treat systems this symptoms, as all that does is keep someone in the health care system becoming dependent on prescription drugs with no real chance of getting better. Why not take the time to properly diagnose the core issue and help the body reset and do what has done for 1000 of years, BP before pharma. Doctor Indi measures her success on having a pa patients heal and not need her anymore.
Glenn Harper [00:02:06]:
How crazy is that? Her passion is to educate and empower our clients so they may unlock their health potential so they can become the healthiest version of themselves. Understanding the body and how it operates creates this desire for our clients to open their minds and go to the journey with her to heal their body. We're excited to unravel the mysteries of not only the body, but how doctor Ini's journey has gotten her where she is today.
Glenn Harper [00:02:26]:
That was good. I'm glad you could do that time too.
Glenn Harper [00:02:29]:
Yes. That's a that's a lot of big words in there. Well, doctor Nee, our our last conversation, I think we got through some of your nomenclatures and what your what your have degrees in and what your, you know, your never ending in school, learning new things. And, you know, I think that I'll segue into this. I don't know if we got into this. It's just like an entrepreneur. There's so many opportunities out there. How does one pick 1 and go with it and become a, a specialist or an expert in that field? And you're an expert in 50 fields, and you keep adding to it.
Glenn Harper [00:03:01]:
So most entrepreneurs, they pick one part of business, and then they do 50 things, and they never get to do all of them very well because there's too many. How do you navigate that?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:03:09]:
So I like to say whatever you cannot stop thinking about. Right? If you if nutrition if you love nutrition and there's some sort of obsession or enjoyment, really dive into that and find and you really do have to commit. Right? There's 40 different programs to follow. You probably love them all, but you gotta pick 1 and you just gotta go with it. And I but I understand. I am I love to to dabble in all the things, but, you know, find what feels the best that that you're going to be encouraged to, you know, put energy into it for a long period of time and just roll with it.
Glenn Harper [00:03:50]:
So I have I have a question. So I I like that you say, like, pick 1 and go with it. But do you find that you yourself are like, well, I wonder because in order to do this one really good, I have to understand this one. And so do you find that although you've picked 1 and you're committed to it, do you find that you still have that curiosity for the rest of them to understand how the one you committed to works?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:04:16]:
Always. Yes. And that's how I kind of collected all of these different specializations and certifications is because I saw, okay. Well, if I'm gonna specialize in hormones, I, you know, went into a deep dive on on hormone study, but I find that most hormone dysregulation is due to mineral deficiency and nervous system stress. So that then encouraged me to do deeper study in, mineral analysis. Right? And that took a year plus to master. And now I'm getting into, you know, deeper central nervous system studies, that sort of thing. So it kinda, like, naturally progresses, as time goes, but you still have to listen to your intuition and it has to feel really good.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:00]:
In my opinion, it needs to feel good. Because when it feels good, you have that passion in you that is required to be successful and connect with people in a really, pure way, honest way.
Glenn Harper [00:05:16]:
Do you you know, one of the things about being an entrepreneur is you're gonna do a product or service or something of that nature. And the question is, well, how can you do it better than the other person? What is the thing that you have, or what is it that you're doing? The information allegedly is out there for all businesses. It's all out there. But certain people, entrepreneurs, will take a piece and specialize in that and good at communicating that and be able to charge a fee to do those things. But what what does one have to do to become, quote, that expert because there's so many things out there? How do you navigate that? I mean, as as, like, if I can go Google the stuff you're doing, but some of it's right, some of it's wrong, how do you become an expert in that? And as an entrepreneur, how do you decide which one you're gonna do?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:06:05]:
Mhmm. And I think a lot of that has to be through trial and error and listening to the feedback from your customer. Right? If if somebody is sitting in your seat and they're not resonating with what you're doing, let let let me learn, you know, how to better connect with you. Right? And there are many, many right ways to do the same thing. The same outcome is going to to yield good results. So, you know, you can't say, this is the only right way. I am an expert in this. The flexibility in knowing that, especially what I do in entrepreneurship is a science, but it's also an art.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:06:43]:
So we really have to say, well, many can be really good. The difference is is is do I energetically connect? Do people like what I have to say that they believe in you when they can energetically connect with you in an honest way, I feel.
Glenn Harper [00:07:00]:
Well, probably the other part of that too is the individual things on a one dimensional level, somebody can figure those out. But to be able to connect those at the next dimension and see those trends and whatever those things are, those total differences, that's what makes most professionals good at their job because they can look holistically at everything and be able to glean out the things that matter. Right? Is that is that probably a true statement?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:07:23]:
Accurate. Yes. Absolutely. And the ability to say, I actually wasn't right there, and let's cross that off the list that didn't work. But I think I have, you know, 3 other ideas that may work for us. So let's let's try these. So being humble enough to say, well, maybe I wasn't on the right track, but that's okay. Let's try these 3 three, you know.
Glenn Harper [00:07:42]:
Oh, we call that They
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got 2 kidneys. If one fails, we got another. It's okay.
Glenn Harper [00:07:45]:
We call that pivoting on on here. So, like, you say, like, entrepreneurs never fail. Right? Because they are never normally throwing in the towel quitting. They're just, like you said, humble enough to say, well, that didn't work out. What's next? How do we make that work?
Glenn Harper [00:08:02]:
You know, it's funny on this too, and this is one of the things I was thinking about, after we finished the last time, is as an entrepreneur, as a human, as just a person, you have to choose the things every day. And, like, last night, I had bread and butter, and it was amazing. And it tasted great. It gave me a high. But, boy, my stomach did not like that. And it still doesn't like it.
Glenn Harper [00:08:29]:
I want you to know that I
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18 hours.
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Did not have any bread. Good.
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18 hours later, I'm like, this is stupid. So but to go and actually eat healthy or eat, like, what you really are supposed to eat doesn't really taste good. It tastes okay today, but long term, it tastes better. Exercise hurts really bad today, but it feels good later. Mhmm. So entrepreneurs on the same thing. The things you should be doing give you pain today, but if you do them, you'll be better off later. If you put off those things today, you're gonna feel the pain later.
Glenn Harper [00:09:02]:
Like, why is it that every choice has to give you pain pretty much today or to actually work later? Why why is that? Why is health health stuff the same way?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:09:12]:
Yeah. I really feel like it's, you know, learning is not comfortable. It it is uncomfortable to the nervous system. Right? So we could kind of what I call swim downstream and just go with the flow with it, whether it's like, you know, I get to exercise. I am blessed that I get to move my body. And although it's, you know, not very comfortable, I could tell myself and and my my perspective of it can be a lot a lot more positive where I don't use have to use the words like this hurts and this sucks versus I get to do this. And and as a result, I am having so much fun and I'm not bored. I feel better.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:09:52]:
I'm encouraged. I'm moving towards a goal, which, you know, feels less painful. I think, at least for me, I hope for for most people.
Glenn Harper [00:10:02]:
Yes. Well, I think that's that whole adage that you gotta be comfortable being uncomfortable. Right. And if you do those things as where except eating bread even though that's comfortable, that is gonna make you uncomfortable, which is just bizarre to me. But, anyway, I think the the the premise of being an entrepreneur is that you're you're the discomfort of you you're gonna have to make hard decisions. You're gonna be in positions where you're you're not really sure what to do, but you still gotta go and do the hard things. And, eventually, it'll come back around. But you have to be willing to learn, and you have to be willing to listen.
Glenn Harper [00:10:37]:
Yes.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:10:37]:
And you have to be willing to be wrong because you in order to master something, you have to do it wrong a lot. Right? So I did we and we don't like the word fail in the sense of the classic definition of fail. It's like we really even a good painter I'm a painter, and I really have to I had to mess up a lot of paintings, and that was painful. But now out there, I could produce beautiful paintings because I put the time and the effort and the investment into producing this product that is now wonderful, but you have to put the time and effort in.
Glenn Harper [00:11:11]:
How hard is it, in your line of work when people come to see you? It's probably because they're at a point where the discomfort, the pain, the ups they they just don't feel good is that point that they're they have to make a decision, and they're willing to explore that. Right? That's probably the majority of your clients are that way. How does one get the message out to everybody else that, you know, if you just do a couple things now, you won't have to be miserable all that time. How do you in your line of work, and how do you create that awareness to clients to, hey, you should get this information and and process a little bit differently and sooner before it's a problem. I'd used to do something with that.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:11:54]:
Yes. So I I like to, build the the client up. I like to teach them to advocate for themselves, you know. So I'll give you the information, but I can't care about you more than you care about you. This is, you know, a healer or or or a doctor is not going to heal you. You have to do it. I'm just the messenger. And so teaching somebody that you can make all the decisions that you want.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:12:20]:
That's the beauty of of the the human condition. However, there is consequences and if you don't like where you're sitting now, you're gonna have to move this this direction. And, I I'm gonna encourage you to, and I hope you do. But if you don't, that's on you. I can't I can't force you to do it. Right?
Glenn Harper [00:12:40]:
How does that you know, how does the you know, like, I do for a living, it just some people seek you out because they're like, hey, I think I need one of those or I got I need an account. I need a CPA, whatever. Like, they they will search you out. Other times, people just don't know that they should have somebody like yourself or there is a different way. Is is the responsibility of the is it the traditional medic community, your line of work? Is it, you know, the Department of Health? Like, who should be out there promoting these things? And if they should be, why are they not? And are you in a position in your line of work where you get to you can be an influencer, if you will, for that?
Glenn Harper [00:13:19]:
Well, I think this is gonna take on a whole different thing too. Oh, yeah. As, you know, you're one person. And as we know, there's a ton of mega corps, an entire industry influencing the health care, the food, all those things. So I'm gonna take it a step further. How does someone like yourself being 1, how can you help and advocate to impact the world we live in today?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:13:45]:
Mhmm. So I use my social media platforms. I I post, like, little teaching tools that that help people kinda think, right, about, you know, maybe what I'm consuming is not maybe the best food. Because even in even in the the big corpse, right, we are kind of told that, well, this is a good diet or these foods are healthy and they're really not. So the best that I can do is is affect as many people in my chair as possible, then they go tell their friends and their friends go tell their friends. So you have that referral network of like, woah. We have a simple healing protocol here that is very powerful. And then, of course, the social media platforms, you know, like, your little tidbits of like, did you know you should take the vitamin d before bed to help you sleep? And that's the best that I can do.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:39]:
I think that it's working right now.
Glenn Harper [00:14:43]:
It's it's funny. The, I saw something. I was scrolling through something, and it was like, if the healthy food section in the grocery store is the healthy food, what's in the rest of the store? And I was like, what the heck? That really that
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:56]:
just and that was like I saw that. It was like 5 seconds. Right? Yeah. And just that 5 seconds reach how many people to say, woah. Hold on a second. That's yes. Hold on a second. Right? And that's how we make, you know, brand changes as a community.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:15:15]:
These tiny little seeds planted into people every single day, little by little.
Glenn Harper [00:15:23]:
So entrepreneurs have a ton of habits and routines. Right? And they really stick to them. Something that I know you focus on is, like, how do you do a different habit, a different routine? How do you get your clients to be able to make those changes? So, like, Glenn Glenn sees, you know, this thing on wherever you were scrolling. But the next time you go into the grocery store, like, are you going to make different choices? Seeing someone like doctor Endy though, that's what you're doing is you're trying to get people to make, you know, different better choices. How do you get people to buy into that? Because it's hard.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:16:00]:
It is hard. And so I start with the big three. Right? So I say, okay, let's give you 3, you know, relatively simple things to change that are sustainable. We're not gonna upset your routine too much. We're gonna practice these, you know, you know, I love breath work. You know, I love my hydration with with salt. Right? We're doing a little bit of digital detox. Okay.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:16:25]:
I want you to go home and practice, you know, cutting the processed foods. We don't have to go on a crazy diet. For right now, let's just practice for 6 weeks not eating pizza.
Glenn Harper [00:16:37]:
And at Pizza? Sounds pretty radical to me. But, I mean, can we do it for, like, a day, or does it 2 days too much? Yeah.
Glenn Harper [00:16:46]:
Okay. Right?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:16:47]:
Or even if it's, like, 4 4 weeks is not I mean, that goes by really fast. So I generally give people, okay. You're gonna practice these three things and really just give it an honest shot. Please just give yourself that time. It's gonna take 5 minutes in the morning to do to do your routine and it's gonna set up your nervous system for success. People become self aware. They realize that I'm holding my breath a lot during the day. I'm not drinking that much water.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:17:15]:
I'm really kind of ruminating on negative thought patterns, you know, so that self awareness is the first skill that we have to build so that you can be more successful, at the later parts of the the healing protocol.
Glenn Harper [00:17:30]:
So I think what you're saying is we have to learn to say no.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:17:33]:
Yes. But I
Glenn Harper [00:17:34]:
also wanna know why I my I when I saw you, I I got, like, mine was real deep. I didn't get 3 things. It was like
Glenn Harper [00:17:41]:
Oh, you're special.
Glenn Harper [00:17:43]:
It's like, you just laugh because I'm like, you know, it was it was hard. But I think when people probably get to you, they've reached a point of they feel so bad that they can commit to something much bigger. Right? And so I think that's true with entrepreneurs too. Right? Like, they become an entrepreneur because there's a pain or because there's a goal or there's something much bigger than whatever that is that they're willing to create those habits and routines for something much bigger, which is exactly what you're doing.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:18:12]:
Right. Right. And and it kinda depends on where they're at. Right? So if you because you came to me and you're like, I don't just tell me what to do. Right? Now sometimes people are
Glenn Harper [00:18:21]:
Everyone listening to that is like, how did this lady get you to say that? She never says tell me what to do. She wants to tell everybody else
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:18:28]:
what to do. I'll do whatever. I'm like, okay. Well, let's go for it. Right? So we have to decide, oh, you know, the preparedness mentally. Where are you at? Right? You know, that dictates how you progress.
Glenn Harper [00:18:44]:
So in, you know, sometimes I'm having a weak moment. I might go to the grocery store and smell the bakery and just, you know, squeeze the bread and just and then just walk on by. But I need that little fix to be like, okay. It's here if I want it, but I'm gonna choose not to do it. And as an entrepreneur, it's it's like that every day. Like, I I should be doing this. Alright. Let me just taste this over here.
Glenn Harper [00:19:07]:
Then I go check this over here. It's the human condition is so bizarre to try to reprogram something that what what is is this in our DNA that we're programmed this way? Is this something we learn as kids? Is this from our parents? Is this, you know, social media, TV telling us? How do we get these bad habits?
Glenn Harper [00:19:24]:
Wait. I just read this thing this morning about this exact thing. I don't remember what it was like the like, what it was proving, but it basically was like our children are born with 0 like, there's no genetics to saying, like, you love M and M's. There's no genetics to say that you love bread. Unfortunately, for us, our parents teach us our eating habits, and their parents taught them. And they try to usually, they try to do better There is is what this was saying that, like, we are not at a point where we are not poisoning our children with the food that we're giving them.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:20:03]:
Well, if you look at formula, look at the first ingredient on most formulas and that's corn syrup solids. Right? So we get the sugar addiction. It's the it's the customer for life there as soon as possible. You know? So it is it's all it's programming. You know, go look at a, I don't I don't generally watch TV, but when I do, when the television's on, how many commercials in the span? Like, each commercial's 15 seconds. They're all, like, Domino's, the new Domino's thing or the, the beer, the oh my gosh. It's inundation with with food. And never it's not ever like, hey.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:20:46]:
Have this great salad from you know what I mean?
Glenn Harper [00:20:50]:
Yeah. It's and it's and again, it it's like, society has made everybody so busy that, like, why wouldn't we give our, you know, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 year olds, chicken nuggets and french fries with, high fructose syrup? And, like, that's just what we've because it's easy.
Glenn Harper [00:21:06]:
Back in the men, like, I just read and you can confirm this, and I have to stop reading. But I'm I'm down these rabbit holes a lot. But, like, the McDonald's chicken nuggets, they were like, let's say, I don't remember. It was like 1989. And there was like 4 ingredients in the McDonald's chicken nuggets. Today, there's 42. And again, I'm I'm messing up my numbers, so no one fact checked me. But it the delta is huge.
Glenn Harper [00:21:29]:
And they are just saying that even just so if I was brought up on, you know, McDonald's chicken nuggets, what I eat or what I ate is way different than what my children would be eating.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:21:41]:
Yes. And if you think, well, you know, people will tell me, well, Chick Fil A is the healthy alternative. I'm like, well, not really. That, you know, the little the little coating on that chicky nutty that you love has 55 ingredients that are all designed to make you hooked. Right? It's it's not a healthy alternative. So it's a constant inundation with wrong information where it's really the foundations that are actually really simple. The foundations are simple, but it's the constant choice to stay in that, you know, whole foods, you know, staying away from processed beverages and this that is the hardest part. It's because it's boring.
Glenn Harper [00:22:25]:
So doctor Indy, what is your guilty pleasure when it comes to eating?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:22:29]:
I love Mexican food.
Glenn Harper [00:22:33]:
Me too. But you changed me. I'm a little I'm a little resentful about that.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:22:39]:
Sorry. But when I even when I go, you know, we have we go out once a a week for date night. And even then, you know, I'm doing, you know, a good fajita salad, and it doesn't have I mean, it's still got seed oils and things in it, but still having a healthier version and I'm not eating the chips with salsa. I had posted something on Instagram. I don't know if you saw this, but I had put 4, chips together and it created a one whole tortilla just to kinda show, you know, visually, like, how many of these are you eating before your meal? Are you eat like, you're hammering back 6 tortillas before you, you know, dive into your your meal. So sorry. I went on a tangent there. But
Glenn Harper [00:23:25]:
No. I just was curious. Guilty. Yeah.
Glenn Harper [00:23:27]:
I mean The free chips and salsa, you eat 2 baskets before you get your meal.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:23:31]:
Oh my gosh. Yeah. You want a refill? Yes. What?
Glenn Harper [00:23:35]:
And all you can eat? Oh, please give me some more. Yes. Well, you know and again, the one of the goals of this podcast is, you know, to share the the challenges one's journey as an entrepreneur. And you've had your ups and downs, and you're doing what you do. But from what I understand it, you're busier than you've ever been right now. So you're trying to juggle, you know, personal life. You're trying to juggle patients. You're trying to juggle their continued education.
Glenn Harper [00:24:01]:
You're trying to make an impact. You know, how do you navigate that? What do you have to say no to? Or and what would you recommend, like, for yourself, at some point, you're gonna be too busy. And if somebody's gonna come and see you and they can't see you until 6 months from now, well, that doesn't help them at all. Well, that's not good. Are you gonna try to scale your business? You're gonna say no to more things? Are you gonna add more people? You know, just without getting too in-depth because we don't wanna tell you your trade secrets. But, you know, what what does that journey look like for you? Because it looks like you've reached that point where something has to give.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:24:32]:
Yes. Now I am a huge advocate for people taking care of themselves first. You have got to take care of your mind and your body in order to execute the the demands that you're asking your body and your mind to do well. Right? So that means, adequate sleep, adequate hydration in the morning. I I make sure that I do not miss my lifts. I do not miss a good breakfast. I do the self care or breath work, you know. I connect with my family and then I'm able to show up for the day where everybody who comes in contact with me deserves the absolute best
Glenn Harper [00:25:17]:
for
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:25:17]:
me because it's their life that we're talking about. Right? And that takes a lot of energy. So I better give back to myself first. And that allows me to juggle all of these things. The the supplements, the, you know, bodybuilding teams, my practice with patients. And and then I do that again in the evening. And that's something that I feel like a lot of entrepreneurs might be be missing is that we have, not enough time for ourselves and we're not giving ourselves enough central nervous system support. So we're running, you know, on all 12 cylinders as as hard as we can until we reach a burnout phase and now that our health is affected.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:25:58]:
So that's some of the biggest thing, you know, I can recommend is for someone to really protect that time, and not give an excuse of, well, I gotta get this done. No. That really like, the dishes are never gonna get done is what I like to say. They will never be done. This, you have got to do.
Glenn Harper [00:26:17]:
You know, it's funny, as a professional, what patients or clients or whomever don't realize it's an implied, perception or thing that happens, but they don't realize it's kinda like if you're a, you know, rock star, country singer. You're expect to go on stage every time, and it's the first time anybody's ever seen you. Even though you just did this show the last 300 days straight, you show up on stage, you gotta be at your best. And if you're not in your best, it's all goes capoey. Right? And Right. Is it and what's hard for us entrepreneurs doing whatever is that thing that we do, it's not the same concert every day. It's not the same song. It's the client has a whole different set of things that we're trying to learn on the fly, and we have to dig deep and figure those things out.
Glenn Harper [00:27:05]:
And you have to be at your best, and you can't do that if you don't have your brain, your body, and all your mind all put together. Right? You're not gonna give your best service to your clients. Right? And Right. That's the hardest part. And that's what you're saying when you start off the day like that. Because they're they waited all day for, you know, 6 months to come and see this one meeting. You cannot be giving them what they you gotta give them your best. Right? Or you're not gonna have any business.
Glenn Harper [00:27:31]:
So how do you keep your energy up? Red Bull? Well,
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:27:38]:
honestly, I've I struggled for quite some time because I have, an illness that drives fatigue. But since I've implemented a mineral balancing program a couple of years ago, and this is why I push it so hard, my energy systems are fueled beautifully. So I I supplement strategically, protect my gut health, and then I make sure that, you know, you're stopping in the middle of, the work day to eat. And that's a lot of things that a lot of entrepreneurs may not do. It's like, oh my gosh. I just went 6 hours and I have not had a meal. Right? So it's you gotta make time to fuel the body.
Glenn Harper [00:28:19]:
And think what's important is you're not going through the Chick Fil A drive through.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:23]:
No. Once a week, you do a little something you want. So you
Glenn Harper [00:28:26]:
Would do a drive by, but maybe
Glenn Harper [00:28:27]:
you won't get it. Yeah.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:29]:
Yeah. Sometimes, you know, you're gonna have fun. I say once a week, you know, you have a celebration with food. I think that's important. But most of the time, it's business. Right? You you body you're asking your body to do a lot and your body is working so hard to give you the output that you're asking of it, I better take care of myself. Right? That that is a love that I need to give my body because my body loves me so much. It's worked so hard for me for so long.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:57]:
It's brought me through so much trauma. I better have some some self respect. Right?
Glenn Harper [00:29:04]:
I think you just said something that I hadn't even thought about, but I'm like, oh, that closes that loop. And it may resonate for some of our listeners as well is you said you treat your body like it's a business. Mhmm. And you fuel it so that you can do what you need to do. And, like, that's so foundational. It seems so simple, but I don't think we think of it like that daily.
Glenn Harper [00:29:28]:
No. I I think most people punish their body for whatever the reason is. I I don't I don't understand it. Like, in attack season, like, I am extremely hard on my body. Like, it is not not rational for what I do, but for the greater good.
Glenn Harper [00:29:44]:
Chocolate that you eat or Everything.
Glenn Harper [00:29:46]:
If I have sleep, sitting and not moving for 12 hours, your brain's flying up. You don't breathe. You know, all the things. But I'm, like, I justify by saying, well, it's only until this deadline's over. Then I can get back and say but, like, why does one make we all entrepreneurs make those choices. Like, the high performers, they probably have a workout or something, but they still
Glenn Harper [00:30:04]:
aren't someone telling them.
Glenn Harper [00:30:06]:
Perhaps. But most of them, they don't have the time to take care of themselves, and they punish their body first. Is that a what is the reason for that?
Glenn Harper [00:30:15]:
I mean, not pure how to treat your pain?
Glenn Harper [00:30:17]:
Yeah. But not pure strength. But, like, how does why is that? Why do entrepreneurs constantly neglect themselves first?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:30:25]:
So I always am going to first question your self worth. Right? Your worthiness. You know, because oftentimes, we tend to put ourselves on the back burner because we feel like I need to focus on this first. I need to focus on this first. And that tells me why why do you feel like you're not worthy of putting in, you know, 30 minutes of self care into let's talk about that. Right? Why are you avoiding what you need to do? You know you need to do these things so that you are feeling better, but why are you not doing those? You're not too busy. Right? We tell ourselves that we're too busy, but but and I know and I get and I do I do know that there's a lot of pressure on time, but you can make the time fit if it matters enough to you. Right? So if you know, okay, I have to rationalize with myself.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:31:19]:
It's all rationally emotive behavior therapy. I need to rationalize with myself that I I I I have to I cannot abuse my brain like this. It even though it's a short term burst of, stress, the the damage on your nervous system is significant. And if you're not working and and and trying to to bring your nervous system back into balance, you're gonna teach your nervous system that it needs to be in the spider flight state even if it's a subconscious, you know, behavior and you just don't feel good. You're tired or you're kinda down or you don't you know, you don't feel good. So I'm gonna say that's my long winded answer of, like, you know, is it a self worth issue that you don't feel like you deserve that that time? What do you think about that?
Glenn Harper [00:32:05]:
I I think it's just that you put you're doing you do the same. We all do the same. We put our clients first because we're most entrepreneurs are so passionate about their clients. They wanna do good. They wanna help somebody. Mhmm. They can't say no, and they will literally the clients don't realize what, you know, their service providers or those people do. We don't realize what a coal miner does every day to get us coal we just don't know.
Glenn Harper [00:32:32]:
You know, deep sea divers that fix, you know, these rate we don't know what they go through. Mhmm. But there's this call to say, I wanna do good, and I wanna really help other people. I don't think you'd you're try I don't think I'm intentionally trying to not take care of myself. I just think, oh, I gotta take care of this first, which is opposite of what you're selling me.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:32:53]:
Well and and that's the thing that kinda goes, you know, deeper in what I'm saying is that, well, yes, why are you putting the the customer first? I understand why we want to, the greater picture. But in order for you to show up for that that patient or that client, you have to put yourself first. Right? We have to fill our own cup up so that we can operate from an energy expenditure. I have energy in the savings account. Right? So that self worth is saying, no. I'm gonna set a boundary and I and I do wanna do really good for for every single person, but that requires me to put me first. So so
Glenn Harper [00:33:33]:
Maybe I need to do more caffeine and more nicotine. Maybe is that how you do it?
Glenn Harper [00:33:36]:
That's definitely not what
Glenn Harper [00:33:37]:
you're trying
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:33:38]:
to do. You're trying you're trying to give me any palpitations.
Glenn Harper [00:33:43]:
No. You're right. I I think it just comes down like we said at the very beginning. It's like, you gotta first build your calendar. What is your what are you trying to do for yourself first? Put that on, and that's it. Those are nonnegotiables. I think
Glenn Harper [00:33:55]:
that's called boundaries.
Glenn Harper [00:33:57]:
Right. And then you say no to everything else that makes you sacrifice that, and then you're gonna probably be in a better position.
Glenn Harper [00:34:03]:
But I think, like and this is something I've went through in probably the last, you know, 9 months is what are your priorities and rank them? And then as you go through that and you have to make the decisions, and I'm not perfect. But, you know, okay, my kids are my number one priority. How does this decision affect that? Oh, nothing changes in there. Okay. Okay. Number 2. You know? Okay. Well, what and, again, I'm just giving things that I've coping mechanisms, whatever you wanna call them, that I've learned in my life to try to say no more and to say, you know, I wanna fall within these boundaries.
Glenn Harper [00:34:39]:
And so I think really being intentional
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:34:41]:
learned Yeah. Yeah. In my practice, I used to be afraid that if I wasn't all the way all the time, I'm on on on all the time. You know, it's not it's not I'm not gonna my business is not gonna be successful. But when I learned that if I don't if I don't set the boundary, I'm actually making myself sicker and sicker and sicker and I'm showing up for my people less and less and less. I started gently sending the you know, setting those boundaries where I stopped answering text messages at 5:5:30 at night. I won't I won't check back in until, you know, 6, 7 in the morning. And that used to give me a lot of anxiety, but but that boundary people respected.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:35:23]:
Right? I still show up beautifully. They still show up beautifully, but I'm able to set myself up for success. And I feel like that is, a a common concern for entrepreneurs of, like, if I don't say yes all the time, if is my business going to to suffer. Right?
Glenn Harper [00:35:43]:
Well, I think it's having that moment and not having to feel guilt for not feeling that moment. Like Mhmm. Well, I have 10 minutes. I could do this.
Glenn Harper [00:35:55]:
Well, not only that, but the way technology is, like, back in the day, you could maybe do I'm making up a number. A 100 tax returns a season. Now with technology, you can do 500. Well, you so and the ability to communicate is so fast. Back in the day, you, you know, you send a letter. It may get there in a month. You're on a ship. I don't know.
Glenn Harper [00:36:15]:
And, you know, you you send a a phone call. They take a message. They'll maybe call you back. Now it's instant on everything. So it just feels like you're doing more and more of that with the technology is supposed to help. It does help in some ways, but it definitely is hurting us. So you're I think you're right. Like like, like, when you say, when you're done at work, the electronic device is off.
Glenn Harper [00:36:34]:
Like, from a health standpoint, just it's over in the corner. Maybe there's, like, 2 people that can call you, puts an emergency that goes off. But, I mean, that's probably one of the first things you would recommend. And us relaxing is not looking at our device. It's not listening to something on the it's away from the device. Right? Right. Totally.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:36:52]:
And then also not being guilty about, like, it's you can you can sit down. I I I'm done with work. But then the mental aspect of you are you beating yourself up about it? Are you thinking about it? Are you get your I have to get back to you. I have to do this, the email. Oh, hold on a second. I am you are done. I am thinking about reading my book. I am coloring in my coloring book.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:37:11]:
I am making my soap because I'm into making soap right now. I don't think about any of that as a gift to my to my patients because it restores my ability to handle very high cognitive output during the time of 7 AM and 5 PM.
Glenn Harper [00:37:32]:
Well, I think that's the point. Like, if you just don't touch your device, there's nothing gonna alert you that something's happening. So if you just come in, put in the and just don't work on it, I find I can detox pretty good. But the second I look at it, like, here we go. I'm back engaged. Back engaged. I set it down. 10 minutes later, look at it.
Glenn Harper [00:37:50]:
Like, I'm guilty, guilty, guilty.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:37:52]:
Yeah. And women are I mean, there's there are studies on this. Women, our brains, don't do that. So we have to also like, when we're sitting down on the couch, we're thinking about a, b, c, d, e, f, g for the next 4 weeks. Right? That's that's how we tend to operate as, the female brain works. So, you know, I do I do have to, you know, kinda coach my women a little bit more of, like, you know, let's relax the brain. You're not guilty for not doing the dishes or, you you know, don't have guilt for not doing the dishes is what I'm trying to say. You know? So it's it's all come back coming back to rationally mode of behavior therapy where you have to rationalize yourself into not feeling guilty or not being present or on all the time.
Glenn Harper [00:38:37]:
I gotta tell you, I'm glad I'm a guy and I can only do one thing at a time. It's an absolute blessing.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:38:42]:
It used to make me mad. My husband and I'm like and then I did a bunch of studies, you know, read a bunch of study and I'm like, oh my gosh. You're literally designed that way. I can't be upset with you.
Glenn Harper [00:38:53]:
It's it's evolution. I what am I gonna do?
Glenn Harper [00:38:55]:
It's still upsetting. But I think for our listeners out there, you know, our entrepreneurs, they're curious and they wanna know, and you've given some really great tips along the way. But if you could give a couple myths that are out there that you'd like to debunk for our listeners, what would they be?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:39:13]:
Myths? So tell me in what category? I don't know.
Glenn Harper [00:39:17]:
Something that you I guess, I'm going really broad here. So but something that you
Glenn Harper [00:39:22]:
Food pyramid. Wish
Glenn Harper [00:39:24]:
well, we know that's not correct. But well, but something you wish more people knew that it's, you know, you're like, oh, this is, you know, this is easy. This is a myth, but here's the fact. And we're all like, oh, that makes sense.
Glenn Harper [00:39:36]:
Everybody believes it, and you're like, no. That's just, like, the simplest thing that people say all the time. Like, how can people still believe this?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:39:43]:
Yeah. And are we talking so I have what about in in, like, natural medicine? Myths and natural medicine?
Glenn Harper [00:39:50]:
Or is that some yeah. Whatever. What you want.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:39:52]:
So my biggest pet peeve is around salt. So if we're gonna talk in in, like, medicine, we have been taught in this culture in the United States that salt is the enemy, which is crazy. Yes. Salt is, you know, I'm not talking about table salt, processed food, garbage salt. Right? So we're salt is the lifeblood of the of the South. Right? So the biggest myth that if I could say if we're talking in natural medicine is that you need to be, hydrated. You need to take salt water. You need to do electrolytes.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:40:28]:
You need to salt your food with high quality salt. Right? And that's gonna help fuel your brain and your body, for success. Don't restrict salt. Now I'm not talking about blood pressure in the sense of, you know, salt sensitive blood pressure that's you know, we're now we're getting to the deeper parts of medicine, but, one big myth is salt.
Glenn Harper [00:40:48]:
Good one go. I switched to Celtic salt here not too long ago, and it is incredibly flavorful more than regular table salt. But is that a is that a good one you're talking about?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:40:59]:
Yep. Yes. Celtic sea salt. I love Redmond sea salt. I love Baja salts, black lava salts. You name it. Those are it was currency in the ancient times. Right? That's how precious it is.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:41:12]:
So, you know, take your salt.
Glenn Harper [00:41:14]:
What about smelling salts? Is those bad? I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding.
Glenn Harper [00:41:20]:
He can't stand point.
Glenn Harper [00:41:21]:
I I yeah.
Glenn Harper [00:41:22]:
Anything any other myths, that you could think of that you'd wanna throw out there?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:41:27]:
Yeah. In business, and I love to help, you know, people who come into my life and are afraid to start a practice or start a business or or live out their dream. I think the biggest myth that I wanna talk about there is that it it is hard to do in the sense of like, oh, that's just for the top 1 percenter. Right? The myth is is wrong. You if you have a business idea, you are I mean, if you're thinking about it nonstop, you have got to execute that. Your soul will not leave you alone until you you do it. And the myth is that you can't be successful or it's very hard to be successful. Right? It is yes.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:42:10]:
Self self employment is hard, but it's so wonderfully challenging that we're we're making our dream successful. Right? So so I always love to advocate that, you know, push past the fear of being told that we need to be working for someone our entire life.
Glenn Harper [00:42:31]:
Do you feel on that and this is this is a great, great question is in my opinion. Do you think that fear is, like, the person because we get to see it all over the place on on premise. We see them all the time, like, the self doubt or confidence, or is it the judgment of others, what if I fail? Mhmm. Like, what is the worser fear or hold back? Why do people not do it that you see in in your line of work?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:43:01]:
So I say that well, I I believe fear is actually a a superficial emotion for anxiety. I think that you're actually anxious that you're gonna be fail you know, you're gonna fail or you're gonna be judged. I think the the biggest, fear is is failure. You know, I don't I don't know if, you know, there's huge amount of fear around, you know, others judging you in that regard. I hope not. I'm of the camp of, like, who cares what other people think? Just do it. I mean, we're gonna we are here for this much time. We might as well try and have fun because the human condition is not that comfortable.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:43:38]:
So the fear around to possibly failing is crazy to me because we are born failing. Right? We fall on our butts to learn to walk, like, that is a failing forward. We are progression progressing. So, you know, I think that a lot what holds us back is that fear of failure and it and it bums me out because, man, we could do some really cool things if we didn't care about that.
Glenn Harper [00:44:01]:
Can you imagine, from a mindset if somebody is they got the proper gut nutrition, they're taking the right minerals, they're sleeping, they're exercising, and they are at their a game, that fear of failure is probably gonna be very diminished versus if you don't feel good, you're just like, what the heck? It just doesn't matter anymore. So as entrepreneurs out there, get yourself in the best position to be successful by taking care of yourself and doing all those things.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:44:31]:
Yeah. And study some of the top CEOs. Right? Look how how fantastic they take care of their body. You know, when you study the most successful people, they're up at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. They don't spend time on the television. They're not scrolling. They are making their time count, and that doesn't mean that you have to be productive all the time. But if they're doing their self care, they're getting their exercise in, they're taking care of their guts, they're doing all of these things.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:44:57]:
Right? So study some of the most successful people in in the industry and see emulate what they're doing, and it's always taking care of themselves first.
Glenn Harper [00:45:07]:
Agreed. Well, wow. Well, I hope the listeners, enjoy this part 2. Again, our first one, so that's exciting.
Glenn Harper [00:45:15]:
I know. Can you give a plug, for our listeners if they would like to find you?
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:45:20]:
Yes. Find me on Instagram. My Instagram is atdr.indigovasquez.
Glenn Harper [00:45:26]:
Gotcha. And we will make sure all that gets linked in the show notes. But I think it's been a great informational session just not getting to know you more, but also being able to learn more about, you know, taking care of yourself and little things that can, you know, perpetuate to big things.
Glenn Harper [00:45:44]:
To make the entrepreneurs better, which is the goal of the show. So, doctor Indigo, appreciate you being here, and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. And thanks again.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:45:54]:
Thanks. Thanks for having me on. Drink your water.
Glenn Harper [00:45:56]:
You know it. Thank you. This is Glenn Harper.
Glenn Harper [00:45:59]:
Julie Smith.
Glenn Harper [00:46:01]:
Right. Thank you.
Glenn Harper [00:46:02]:
Thank you. That was a little different than what we normally do, but I wanted to know all, like, your tips and tricks. So
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:46:09]:
Yeah. Thanks for having me on again.
Glenn Harper [00:46:11]:
Yes. Well, I'll be a patient. So Yes.
Glenn Harper [00:46:14]:
That'll add 2 more to my thing. Not that this is a competition, but I I I need to
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:46:18]:
start paying you.
Glenn Harper [00:46:19]:
No. Start giving you. No.
Glenn Harper [00:46:20]:
Oh, god. No. We believe in the cause. We would like to do it. So, yeah, we're looking forward to that. And, I'll I'll reach out to you as well and see where we could do that.
Glenn Harper [00:46:28]:
And I'll send you something linking with my mom too. So
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:46:31]:
Perfect. Yeah. I would love to help. Yeah. Well, I hope you guys have a great day.
Glenn Harper [00:46:35]:
I know that you do the same. Take care.
Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:46:37]:
Bye.
Glenn Harper [00:46:38]:
Thanks. Bye.
Glenn Harper [00:46:39]:
Bye bye.