As president.
The criticism that I've seen I'm sure you've seen regarding Elon must and your beautiful bill. Once your reaction to that, do you think in any way it hurts passage in the Senate.
Which is, of course, what is you're seeking. Well, Clock, you know, I've always liked Elon and it's always very surprised. You saw the words he had for me, the words and he as I said anything about me that's bad. I'd rather have him criticize me than the bill, because the bill is incredible. It's the biggest cut in the history of our country. We've never cut. It's about one point six trillion in cuts. It's the biggest tax cut tax You would say people's taxes will go way down,
but it's the biggest tax cut in history. It's we have. We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable. And would you look at what we're doing for small businesses, for people, for middle income people, all of the things that we're doing. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. And you know, Elon's upset because we took the EVL and which was a lot of money for electric vehicles and having a hard time the electric vehicles and they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy. And you know,
I Elon knew this from the beginning. He knew it for a long time ago. That's been in there, that's been I would say it, j Ad, that hasn't Jay just been right from the beginning, mister I think, mister secretary, that hasn't changed it all right from the beginning. But I know that it disturbed him. He wanted and rightfully, you know, he recommended somebody from that he I guess knew very well. I'm sure he respected him, but to run NASA, and I didn't think it was appropriate. And
he happened to be a Democrat, like totally democrat. And I said, you know, we won we get certain privileges, or one of the privileges went not to appointed democrat. NASA is very important. We have great people. General Chaine is going to be picking somebody with our will be we'll be checking him out. But he wanted that person, a certain person, and we said no. And yeah, I can understand why he's upset. Remember he was here for
a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the oval desk, and even with the black guy. I said, you want to learn the makeup, we'll get you in the makeup. But he said no, I don't think so, which is interesting and very nice. He wants to be who is so you could make that statement. Two, I guess. Look, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we will anymore. I was surprised because you were here. Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had a
wonderful send off. He said wonderful things about me. You couldn't have nicer, said the fascinate he's worn the hat truck was right about everything, and I am right about the great big beautiful bill. We call it a great, big beautiful bill because that's what it is. And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere. We'd never done anything like it. Business is spur and I don't know if you've seen the numbers, but the
numbers came out. Even the CBO, which is run by Democrats, said that we're going to be doing you know, I'd like you to discuss it. The two point eight billion a triton that CBO. This is a group of people that are Democrats, they're very hostile to us. They just came out with phenomenal numbers. What it does you want to mention?
That's yes, sir. So what we've seen is we keep hearing from the CBO that there's going to be a worse deficit from the bill, which we disagree with. But using the CBO scoring, they came out and scored the tariff revenue. We think it'll be the minimum of two point eight trillion over the ten year window, which actually puts the bill in surplus. If you include the tariff revenue, which they won't do.
It gives you a tremendous surplus. But we're not allowed to use that for some reason, they say scoring. Nobody knows what scoring means. Maybe a couple of people, but nobody. Somebody sits in the background they say, well, I'm not going to allow that. They're not allowing other things that we have that are tremendously profitable for our country. But if you saw they remember eggs, eggs, we weren't going
to buy another ink for the next twenty years. There was so expensive, right, Remember you guys all hit me about eggs. Eggs have come down four hundred percent. Everybody has eggs. Now they have an eggs for breakfast again. But if you look at gasoline, very important, I think always the most important because if the energy is a big the biggest factor. That's what happened. He screwed up our energy policy and everything went up because energy went up.
But now energy is way down and they have states were you at one dollar and ninety eight cents a gallon for gasoline, so the costs of weight have come way down. And one of the things I ran on was that I ran on the border. We have the best border in the history of our country. Ninety nine point nine nine percent. It was last week three people came in, two of them for medical reasons. We let them in because one of them had an art attack. I think it was a nice thing to do, and
one of them had something else. So we've never had I had very good numbers for four years, but we were really top there. And I want to thank Christy and Tom Holman. They've done a fantastic job, but nobody mentions that anymore. Remember a few months ago, the boarder was a total disaster. People were coming in by the hundreds of thousands of people a day, a week, a month. I mean, we had a month two million people came in in one month. The border was being overrun and
a lot of bad people, criminals, murderers, drug dealers. We had some of the worst people in the world coming in from all over the world. It's totally close and you know what. People are coming into our country, but they're coming in legally, so we've done a great job. Elon knew that. Elon endorsed me very strongly. He actually went up in campaign for me. I think I would have won SUSI would say I would have won Pennsylvania easily anyway, even if the governor read the real governor,
not the governor from Minnesota. Who's I mean, he's a sick puppy. That guy that pulled I feel sorry for but they made a bag of choice with him. But if you picked Shapiro or anybody else. I spoke to him recently about his you know, his house being set on fire, which was terrible. But if they picked Jim, I would have won Pennsylvania. I want to buy a lot, but I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here, better
than you people. He knew everything about it. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem. And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the ev mandate, because that's billions and billions of dollars, and it really is unfair. We want to have cars of all times electric. We want to have electric, but we want to have a gasoline combustion. We want to have different we want to have hybrids, we want to have all.
We want to be able to sell everything. And when that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it, he became a little bit different. I can understand that. But he knew every aspect of this bill. He knew it better than almost anybody, and he never had a problem until right after he left. And if you saw the savings he made about me, which I'm sure you can
get for he's it's very fresh on tape. He said the most beautiful things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next. But I'm very disappointed in you, and I've helped you a lot and a lot.
Did he I just want to clarify, did he raise any of these concerns with you privately before he raised them publicly. And this is the guy you put in charge of cutting spending. Should people not take him seriously about spending? Now he singing this all sour great Now.
He worked hard and he did a good job. And I'll be honest, I think he misses the place. I think he got out there and all of a sudden he wasn't in this beautiful Oval office and he was. And he's got nice officers too. But there's something about this when I was telling you the Chancellor, this is where it has. People come in here, even from Germany. They come in and they they walk into the Oval Office and it's just a special place. Its World War One it started and it ended here in World War Two,
and so many other things. Everything big comes right from this is beautiful space. It's now much more beautiful than it was six months ago. A lot of good things are happening in israelm And I'll tell you he's not the first people leave my administration. And they love us, and then at some point they miss it so badly, and some of them embrace it, and some of them actually become hostile. I don't know what it is. It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it,
but we have it with unders do they leave? They wake up in the morning and the glamour's gone, the whole world is different. They become hostile. I don't know what it is. Someday you write a book about it. You'll let us know.