Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast. This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The Boring Company, and Neurolink. I'm your host, Will Walden. Man, that is a big crowd and they are not here for me. How you guys doing? Nice vibe this year right after the best month we've ever had. Nice to see you all. Thanks for coming out. Good to see you. I'm not going to kill any more time. Let's bring out Elon Musk one second.
Hey guys, we've got we've got one more. We've got one more surprise. In case this wasn't enough, I'm going to let Elon do it. Who else is here? Well, President, President Malay has a gift for me. Javier Malay from Argentina, you guys know where that is, right? Why don't we bring him out? This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy. Church saw all. Right. I love it, Mr. President, thank you so much. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. Nice to meet you. I love it. We love it. We love it.
All right. They told me to put this. Right, where should we put it? They want it right here. All right, great. A little stage prop. I love you guys too. Thanks guys. Have a seat. So. That was something. I am become meme, Yeah, pretty much. I'm just, I'm living the meme. I'm it's like this living the dream and there's living the meme and it's pretty much what's happening, you know? You're like, I think you're. Bigger. I mean, doge started out as a meme, think about it.
And now it's real, isn't that? Crazy it is. It is crazy, but it's. Cool. Let me ask you this. A year ago, if someone had told you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to absolutely shred the government, the swamp, whatever you want to call it, would you ever believe that? No. No. Me neither, but it's cool. This is awesome and and I just want to say, you know, thanks
for your support. I mean, guys are, you know, so I mean, we're, you know, we're trying to get, get good things done, but also like, you know, have a good time doing it and, you know, and have like a sense of humor, you know, So like, I mean, the, the, the sort of the left wanted to make comedy illegal. You know, you can't make fun of anything. So there's like, comedy sucks. It's like nothing's funny. You can't make fun of anything. It's like legalize comedy. Yeah, legalize.
Comedy and we we've, we've shifted the entire culture in just the last few months, the whole culture of this country has shifted dramatically just because of that election. Yeah, exactly. You know, freedom of speech, having, you know, having fun again, it seems like we should have, we should have a good time, you know? It, I mean, it's a great time. Everybody in this place is so excited, and I haven't. I mean, when you talk to conservatives, everybody's happy.
Yeah. And everybody feels this great sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four years. It really felt bad, especially toward the end. It felt really bad. Yeah, I, I mean, I, I thought we, I, I thought we were sort of heading for a point in no return really, you know, until that's why I was so essential that President Trump win the election and and that there, there be a Republican majority in the House and Senate, which thanks to you with that, that has been
accomplished. Yeah, Yeah. I want to ask you one of the biggest questions I have for you is and you've been, you know, politically, you weren't really on one side or the other for a long time. You're a businessman. A lot of people, they stay away from it. Now you're on a side and you've chosen to side. You're sitting here in a MAGA hat. What's how did that happen? What was the moments like you? Know dark Gothic Magas. That's a good one. What?
Was there a specific moment? Was there a moment that it all changed? Yeah, when I realized it was a fool. But no, I I was, I guess, Yeah. I mean, I'd say like I was probably politically neutral for for quite a while, you know, you know, leaning a little Democrat, you know, how do you go from this? Yeah, No, no. Well. Did they go crazy? Yeah, they did. They did go crazy. Yeah, they went crazy.
No, I mean that whole cancel culture and and you know, it's trying to stop freedom of speech and infringe upon just in general infringe upon people's personal freedoms. You know, they just want state control, state control what you say they want to, you know, take away your your guns and the reason I want to take away your guns, so like there's nothing
you do to oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know, I just, I just like, we just need to restore the fundamental elements of what made America great, which is freedom and opportunity. We're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the West. It's, it's not just about America. We're watching, we're all watching Europe and knowing that they're about 5000 years ahead of us, right? Because they got an early start and we're watching how they're
devolving. And you're trying to save it from happening here. I mean, in Europe they put people in prison for memes, you know? I'm like, that's insane. And they're collapsing. I mean, there's a society is it's a collapsing society. It feels that way. It feels like. France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today. Yeah, I don't think you can question that. Yeah, so. But yeah, I mean really. Thanks. I love you too.
I mean. I really, I really just wanted to do useful things like, you know, basically build products, you know, provide products and services that that are that are good and that that I wasn't really like that interested in being political. It just like there was at a certain point no choice. So. Yeah. Can I, can I ask you what it on the same side of that coin? What's it like from going neutral to being vilified, largely vilified by the media?
I think you're what? No. Really. I mean, turn on some of these channels, brother. I mean, they don't. They're angry. Does it? Bother you at all this little good to you, I. Mean when they're chanting for my death, I suppose that's a little, you know, not good. And then, like, the song's not even that good. And it's like, like you call that a death chant? That's nothing, please. They've been singing a lot. Even good music. There's a lot of music lately. It's not good music either.
Yeah, I would say that they're, you know, watching what you're doing with Doge. Is is just that people love it. I mean, I I've always looked at the government and I've, I've always looked at the government. I've seen this big machine that and you just know that they waste because they don't care. Nobody could just more money coming. They don't care. You're cutting all this out.
Everybody in this country knows that the government is full of waste, fraud and abuse and you're doing the work and the Americans love it. Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't believe how bad they are at responding to this. I don't know how you're going to sit there and and scream and complain because they're cutting waste out of the government and try to win another election. How do you how do you try to win on that?
Well, I'm at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how much of the left is even real, you know? How much was propped up by our money, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like literally, you know, you see like these these sort of fake rallies where there's like hardly any people and the media will like frame it and like, you know, get all six people, you know, in the frame. But it's like nobody else is there. Like just it's, it doesn't have
popular support. But but but there's but, but then you, then you, you learn that like there's hundreds of billions of dollars going to be so-called NGOs that, that, that and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are fundamentally anti American. And, and they're propping up their narrative. Yes, a lot of that government money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as
strong as they made it seem. In fact, a massive amount of of your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies directly from the from from the. Government. The government wants to take over media. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. That's why we have X. Yeah, and that's. That's why you spent $44 billion. I mean, there's a lot of money. I mean. More than it was probably worth, but it had a There was a message. Freedom is priceless.
Priceless. Yeah, probably one of the most important investments this country's ever seen. If you got to protect the 1st Amendment, it's not much more important than that. Yeah, I got a lot of criticism and people said, well, that proves he is a huge idiot from a, you know, like, look, you know, you voted for whatever, $44 billion and now it's worth like $0.08 and. It's not worth $0.08. But but, you know, there's that. But but the yeah, it was it was essentially to, you know, buy
freedom of expression and. Yeah, that's gone. It's all. Over. Yeah, it's all over. Yeah, into tyrannies really quick after that. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's all the all the sort of federal money going to media companies is what what helps explain why the legacy media all says the same thing at the same time. Yeah. Like isn't it like it's like weird, Like you can put them up where it's like, you know, like when they. They're mouthpieces for for the state. For the state, yes.
And that's that's what we've come to know. Yeah, scary. And and I like that that mean when they whether because they're always saying like threat to our democracies, that threat to. But if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, big threat to the bureaucracy. That's exactly right. Let's talk about, let's talk about these DOGE dividend checks that everybody's talking about
this week. And I know you tweeted out that you're going to, does everybody want like a $5000 check in the mail? It sounds kind of good, right? And and the best part about it would be knowing where it came from that that's 5 grand that you sent them last year. Totally. It's it's, it's, it's money that's taken away from from things that are destructive to the country that and from organizations that hate you to you. That's awesome. Is it does it seem like, I mean, have you talked?
I mean, that's like glorious, but this is, that's like the spoils of battle, you know? I like that. Is there? Is there traction on that? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah, I took the president, he's supportive of that. And so it sounds like, you know, that's something we're we're going to do. Yep. So as as we're finding savings, that's going to translate directly to reductions in tax. So yeah. I mean, I think they fired 6000 people at the IRS today.
And I think what Nick said last night that he, they're talking about shutting down the IRS. And I think it's fair. I think people should realize this is, I mean, the amount of money that we said we send Washington like 5 or 6 trillion a year, that is such an ungodly amount of money. I mean, what are they? They say like a trillion seconds is like 30 years or something like that. I mean, that's how much we send them. And they seem to never have enough. There's must be a lot you can cut.
No, absolutely. People ask me what's the most surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC? You know, we're in DC and I said, well, the most surprising thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually how easy it is to with a just just what when you add caring and competence where it was absent before, you can actually save billions of dollars sometimes in this in an hour like it's it's wild. And then they scoff at it and say, oh, a few billion here, there.
I mean, the way they're talking about it, they, they, you can see they don't care. It's, it's so it's such little money compared to how much they're used to wasting. That's what's really scary. Yeah, no, I mean, it's exactly, but obviously it's, it's, it just shows that they they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard, paying, paying taxes. And then and then they say, oh,
$1,000,000 doesn't matter. I'm like, I think it matters a lot people, you know, So what are you talking about? I'd like to have it. Let me ask you a question. I, you know, I know the president fairly well. Watched him survive 2 assassination attempts. The second. Had the first one not happened, the second one would have gotten him. You know, it was very because without those extra guys, they would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the
golf course. I saw the crew that you the. Crew that you mind blowing that this has happened. I mean it just and and what by the way, why do we still know nothing about that guy in Butler? What's going on? But he's. He's. Cash is going to get to the bottom of it, yeah. There you go. By the way, yeah. Confirm, confirm just a couple hours ago, but I I saw that the security detail that you had come in is, is enormous. That enormous.
Maybe it should be bigger. I think you could probably afford it, but I mean, how concerned are you about your safety dealing? I mean, it's you are you are a wanted man. Are you? Are you enormous? So I look, I'm open to ideas for improving security. I have to tell you, like, I, I don't actually have a death wish. I think I, but, but you know, it's not that easy.
So yeah, I mean, yeah, but, but I have like I've had even like people like President Buchelli from El Salvador who, who managed to put in prison like like 100,000 like murderous thugs. And and he was like, he called me. He's like, I'm worried about your security. I'm like, you're worried about my security. I'm like, what? OK, you know. I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down there. I mean, yeah, totally.
And and survive. I'm like, I was like, how did you put all those thugs in prison without dying? Because it seems like that would have been not easy, you know? Well, there's a the, the, the president has one of his top attorneys is now investigating, I guess Chuck Schumer for threats against SCOTUS congressman on the Democrat side who's saying, you know, basically saying you're going to bring a war to you, like a fight to you.
I mean the rhetoric. You guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to be messed with. And we're fighting the Matrix. A lot of people that really don't want that to happen. Yeah, we're fighting the Matrix big time here. Yeah, but it has got to be done. Yeah, and are. Are you? It certainly does. What's what's going on with tell us about Fort Knox? Yeah, is Kentucky. It's a military base. It's a ton of gold. Tons and tons and tons of Gold 5. 1000 tons of gold.
Or 5000 or 10 are there in the ground and like this I mean it's a very secure thing you. All want to see it you. Know I'd love to see. It like this is your gold, by the way, it's the public's goal do. You think it's not there? I don't know, but I think. Just want to see it. Yeah, we want to go see it and just make sure like somebody did a spray paint some lad or something, you know? Yeah, like is this real gold
bite the bar, You know, didn't. But I think honestly, you know, part of this also is just like, let's let's you know, let's have some fun. And and and you know, like, like I said, this, this oldest gold at Fort Knox, it's the public's gold. It's your gold. So like, I think you have like a right to see it. You want to take a tour, You know, Yeah. I think we should have it, do it, do it tour. And the president last night was like, that's all.
I think he's in favor of it. That would be cool. And then we, like, should be like a live tour. Like you can see what's going on, open the door like what's behind it. Well, and there's, you know, I think. I'd watch that. Oh, are you kidding? Yeah. I mean, what is? What is 5000 tons of gold? What is? The big is it? Is it? Is it the size of this? Got to be pretty big, you know? It's got to be a lot of. People, there's some other stuff in there, like it's walk around.
Like, I don't know, maybe I got some other stuff in there. Are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well? Which is obviously, Yeah, sure. Regular regulatory economy. I I imagine you think the waste has got to be. Everywhere, yeah, no waste. Waste is pretty much everywhere. People ask like, how can you find waste in in like in DC? I'm like, look, it's like being in a room and this target, the wall, the roofs and the floor are all targets.
So it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction. You can't miss, you know, So it's, it's, it's pretty wild, like like you just push on things a little bit and, and you save billions of dollars, like just a little bit, you know, it's. Wild. It's scary, isn't? It that's why I say like it really is underrated. If you add caring and competence, how much things
improve. Yeah, and, and, you know, and we said we just find so many totally crazy things at which, you know, we're obviously we're sharing with the public. We post everything we learn, you know, just, you know, so you can see it, you know, what do you, It's like, isn't it Like it's totally wild. Like we did just, we just did like a check the database on Social Security, like says how many a lot Americans alive, Americans eligible for Social
Security are there. And according to the database, it's over 400 million. And we're like, wait a second. And how many are getting open again? Yeah, and and then like we found like one person in there is like 360 years old. I'm like, what did they know been? 100 years for the Revolution. Yeah, you know there's America didn't exist before at that time like so I so. Yeah, we were colonies. You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
I don't know. But are there indications that those that there were checks going to those people or any of those people? Well, yes. I guess the question right this, I mean, I get the Social Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these people? Are they that dumb? I don't know. A bunch of money is going out for the Social Security Administration and in fact, from all entitlements programs 70. 2 billion in waste in like 7 years. That's ten billion a year.
Well, I I think the the. Fraudulent payments. The the rough or estimate from general Government Accountability offices on as over $500 billion a 40 year. If I. 500 billion. And how long at the time? Of per year. Per year on on Social Security. No, no on on all. On all government. On all entitlements. All entitlements. All entitlements, yeah. Yeah, it sort of actually makes sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say like, OK, the $7 trillion was spending by the government.
What percentage do you think is fraudulent? OK, exactly. Like a conservative estimate of the 7 trillion would be 10%. Conservative, probably a little higher than that, you know, exactly. Feels like 1/4 out every dollar. Right. But if if the fraud's only 10% of 7 trillion, you've got $700 billion of fraud. Yeah. And by the way, it's like really easy to take advantage of the federal government. It's very easy. Very easy look at COVID. Yes.
Everybody got rich during COVID. I mean, look at all these scares. I mean, it's unbelievable. We. We, it looks like for, in terms of the COVID payments, there was something like $200 billion of, of COVID payment fraud taken by fraudsters out of the country. That's like, I think, listen, if there's going to be fraud, it should at least be domestic. So you know, but they managed to get $200 billion out of the country. I'm like, what? Didn't we notice that?
Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second. You know, there's this move now that the Trump's latest thing is that he cut, he's going to cut funding any kind of money that ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants. So if you're funding these sanctuary cities and states, that's how right, right. They're paying for these hotels. That's all federal money. If you got a hotel in your city in New York, you got all these hotels full of migrants.
That's not state money. That's the feds are covering that. He's going to cut all that. It's really hard to deport 15,000,000 people. And it seems like the move now is let's see if we, especially at the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is let's make it so that they leave on their own. If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go back, especially if there's no work.
Well, I think it's really important for people to understand that the the Biden administration sent any possible money that they could. They could if if there was money they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal immigration, they sent it OK. They took money from FEMA meant for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York. That is a an outrage. They actually did that.
And and not only that, even after president signed an executive order saying it has to stop the FEMA the the the sort of whatever deep state bureaucrats still still pressed send on $80 million last week to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that they've got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be restored. It's like the gumption you. Think you think they're creating a new voter classes?
Would you think that was the goal when they open up the orders for four years, create a new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in. Yeah, 3 cards vote. A lot of these things like you don't actually have to assume some grand conspiracy. You just need to look at basic incentives, benefits. So if the incentives, the fundamentally if the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some point, whether it's a, you know, cheating, but eventually that can become citizens.
But if the probability is like 8090%, just look at California which is super majority Dem and then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals in the country. That is why the Biden administration was pushing to get in this as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many because every one of them is a customer, everyone is a voter. So the whole thing is a giant voter importation scam. Pretty obvious.
Very obvious. And then they moreover then they, they, they actually created the CVP 1 border app thing where they were, which is like where they could, they would literally fly people in. It's not like like at the point at which you know, people being flown in at, at your expense. Sending planes. Building a wall up doesn't. Fly them over the border. Yeah, they're literally flying them in. No other, no other country in the world would do something like this.
Nobody is this stupid. Yeah. And, and then we found that it was like $100 million contract given to some guy in London actually oddly enough for the CVP One app. So, so then so they're flying illegals into the swing states. Yeah. And, and if you've got like a margin of victory of maybe 20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that state, it's not going to be a swing state for long. Change the numbers eventually, yeah, maybe in four or eight
years you're exactly it's. Just a matter it's a. Long game it's. Just a matter of time. Yeah. So it might take like a year for a sound secret or something to get on the to get get a green card and then five years for the citizenship. It's it's it's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off. Yeah. Just a question of when. They all remember who brought them in and who left them here. Exactly, exactly. I want to go back. I want to talk. About big deal.
Like, I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate that this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of democracy in America. It's. Treason. Treason. Yeah, one more Biden question. I I remember when, you know, when when they would do the electric car stuff, they would always try to box you out even though you have the only
electric car anybody wants. Yeah, you you said, I think this week that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save them, make NASA look bad, make the private sector look better, make you look good. You believe that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So of course. I kind of agree. I mean, I why would he want to let you help them come down when you're supporting? The president, the Biden administration was was attacking
me next level. I mean the Department of of Justice or injustice under the Biden administration was I mean, there was suing SpaceX. There's they're suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers and we're like, but it's actually illegal for us to hire up silent seekers because we're rocket technology is covered under ITAR rules, which is that means it's an advanced weapons technology. And so we can only hire permanent residents or green or or orchestra citizens like so.
So we're damned if we do it, damned if we don't. We said like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so? But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice or Injustice case about this against SpaceX. So obviously it was an antagonistic situation. And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8 days, and now they're up for eight months.
Does that make any sense? And, and, and we, we obviously could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it to, didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to look good basically. Yeah, that's the, that's the,
that's the issue. The, a lot of them are saying right now that the reason that you want to get into Social Security, that you want to get into all of these different, into treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for personal information and you're trying to make more money. Yeah, I I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less about money in my life. Every time I hear a story about you, you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that
you could buy the entire thing. Yeah, I'm not I. Don't think you care about money, do you? No, actually, I mean listen like if I if I steal some Social Security I can finally buy nice things. And, and, and on that same question, they're also talking about you guys are going to end Social Security, you're going to end Medicare, you're going to end these things. I, I don't imagine that conversation has been had with the president and that's, that's the plan.
No, in fact, the actions that we're taking with the support of the president and the support of the agencies is what will save Medicare, what will save Social Security. And and it's it's because if the country goes insolvent, if, if, if all the if all the money is just spent on paying interest on debt, there's no money left for anything. Yeah. So that's that's the reason I'm doing this is because I was looking at the big picture here. And it's like, man, our debt's getting out of control.
The the interest payments, the interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire Defense Department budget. A. Trillion a year in interest just to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year. That is unbelievable. And rising rapidly. So. So like it's, I mean, the country's not different from a person country overspends, country goes bankrupt, same with the same as a person who overspends goes bankrupt. So it's it's not like optional to solve these things, it's essential.
So we're going to go bankrupt? Yes, we are. Couple minutes left here, Russia there's a huge push from. The Oh yeah, yeah. People like, sort of like to end this war, say like, you know, I, I'm, I'm a, I'm a bored asset of Putin. I'm like he can't afford me. Yeah, I think, I think you're worth more than Russia. Think about it. So what we're you're trying to end, you're trying to end a war. It's all any war always means. You have to compromise. You have to negotiate with an
enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is. And right now, they are lambasting the president for trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able to end for 3 1/2 years or three years. They, you know, they're saying Trump's blaming Zielinski for the invasion. How do you how do you process all of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war? Well, first of all, I think we should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines. That's the most important thing.
And people have been dying. You know, it's like, how many more years is this supposed to go on? And imagine if that was your son, your father, you know, what are what are they dying for? What exactly are they dying for? That line that has the line of engagement has barely moved for two years. There's a whole bunch of people dead in trenches for what? And I'll tell you what, for what it's like for the biggest graft machine that I've ever seen in my life. That's for what it's, it's
unreal. Like the amount of money that is that is being taken in Grafton bribery is, is disgusting. And, and so what's actually happening is that those, those, you know, people, those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on and it needs to stop. And that's, I mean, that's it, it seems. I mean, Trump is so pragmatic on this. It, it just, he's just looking at it and he's saying it's Ukraine. It's not our country, it's not a NATO ally.
I just want to see people not dying. I want to see on both sides just I mean, think about how many young, so many young men have died in Ukraine that the army is starting to age out. The military is aging out. You got 40 and 50 year old guys fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not killed or maimed in their 20s. That's the reality of the think about how many people that is. If you're a humanitarian at all, you just got to end the war.
Like no matter what, just get it over with. Yes, people, they need to stop dying and and and the gruff machines got to stop, you know, so and I think people it they don't a lot of people out there don't realize like the president has a lot of empathy. He really cares, you know, he's a good, he's a good man, so. I got one more for you. I've been fascinated by you for a very long time. Thanks. I've just, I just, I've never seen anybody that can, you know, do so many things at the same
time. I mean, you've got the Rockets, you got the cars. I've always wanted to ask you, what is it like inside your mind like this? Is it just 1000 miles an hour? I mean, are you. Yeah. Is it just not. I mean, this. Does it ever stop? Do you sleep? How much do you sleep? What's paint us a picture of inside of of the mind of a genius? Like, how do you. How? Do you do all? This can you answer that question? It's not an easy question, yeah. I mean, my mind is a storm, so
it's a storm. But but I mean, let me maybe tell you something like you didn't ask the question, but but I think it's worth kind of nonetheless, maybe just just elaborating on something, which is, you know, I grew up in in South Africa and but my morality was informed by America. I read comic books, you know, play Dungeons and Dragons and, and I watched American TV shows and it like, it seemed like America cared about being the good guys, you know, about doing
the right thing. And, and, and that's actually pretty unusual, by the way. It's like, it's like in the world. It's very unusual. Yeah, it's not like actually. Those countries don't do that. No, they don't. No. And so I was like, yeah, you know, you, you want to be this good, you want to be on the side of good, you want to care about what's right. And, and yeah, so that's, that's, yeah, what I believe in, you know, so. I gave you, I gave you a tough one at the end. Yeah. So yeah.
That's great. That's great, Elon Musk. All right, Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. I appreciate it. Thanks. Hey, thank you so much for listening today. I really do appreciate your support. If you could take a second and hit this subscribe or the follow button on whatever podcast platform that you're listening on right now, I greatly appreciate it. It helps out the show tremendously and you'll never
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