Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast. This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The Boring Company, and Neuralink. I'm your host, Will Walden. Hello everybody. My name is Alex Toddling. I'm the second participant in the Neuralink study, but I'm here to count us down to the demo in 54321. Hi everyone, welcome to the Neurolink presentation. This is an update for the progress of the neural link team. It's been an incredible amount
of progress. This is we're going to start off high level, generally describing what neural links doing. And then we're going to get have a very deep technical dive so you can actually get an understanding of what exactly we're doing at a granular level and what we can do to enhance human capabilities and ultimately build a great future for humanity. So that's a that's a neural
inspiring. It's funny thing that me talking right now is a bunch of neurons firing that then result in speech that you hear that cause neurons to fire in your brain. Yeah, part of part of this presentation is about demystifying the the brain. It is a remarkable organ. I mean, we are the brain basically when you say you, that
really is you're the brain. Like you can, you can get a, a heart transplant, you can get a kidney transplant, but I don't know anyone who's gotten a brain transplant. So you are your brain and your experiences are these neurons firing with the trillions of of synapses that somehow lead to conscious comprehension of the world. This is something that we have only begun to understand. We're really just barely at the beginning of understanding of what is the nature of consciousness.
And I've thought a lot about what, what is consciousness? What is it? Where does consciousness arise? Because if you start at the beginning of the universe, assuming physics is true, the standard model of physics is true, then you have this Big Bang. You know the matter condensing into stars, those stars exploding. A lot of the the atoms that are in your body right now were ones at the centre of stars. Those stars exploded, recondensed. Fast forward 13.8 billion years and here we are.
And somewhere along that very long journey, to us at least, consciousness erodes or the the molecules started talking to each other. And it begs the question of what is consciousness is, is everything conscious? Maybe it's hard to say. We're along that line, that there's no sort of discreet point where consciousness didn't exist and then suddenly does exist.
It seems to be maybe you have a condensation of matter that has a, a density of like, we don't know what the real, the real answer is. We don't know what consciousness is. But with the neural link and the progress that the company's making, we'll begin to understand a lot more about consciousness and what does it mean to, to be along the way, We're, we're going to solve a lot of, a lot of brain issues where the brains get injured or
damaged in some way or didn't develop in quite the right way. But there's, you know, there's, there's a lot of brain and spine injuries that go so along the way. And I do want to emphasize that this is all going to happen quite slowly, meaning you'll, you'll see it coming. Sometimes people think that suddenly there will be vast numbers of neural links all over the place. This, this is not going to be sudden.
You'll be able to watch it happen, you know, over the course of several years and, and we go through exhaustive regulatory approvals. So this is not something that we're just doing there by ourselves without government oversight. We're we work closely with the regulators every step of the way. We're very cautious with, with neural links in humans.
That's the reason we're not moving faster than we are is because we're, we're taking great care with, with each individual to make sure we, we never miss. And so far we haven't. And I hope that continues into the future. Every single one of our implants in humans is working and working quite well. And you'll get to hear from some of the people that have received the implants and cured in their words.
So what we're we're we're creating here with a neural link device is a generalized input output technology for the brain. So it's how do you get information into or out of the brain and do so in a way that does not damage the brain or, you know, cause any negative side effects. So it's a very hard problem and generally the the reactions I've seen to this range from it's impossible to it's already been done before those those people should meet.
Actually the reality is that there actually have been limited range of computer interfaces for several decades. On a very basic basis, just what we're doing with neural link is dramatically increasing the bandwidth by mayors magnitude. So you can, you can a human bandwidth output is less than one bit per second over the course of a day. So there's 86,400 seconds in a day. It's very rare for a person to do more than 86,400 bits of
output per day. You'd have to be really talking a lot or typing all day and you might exceed that. So what we're talking about here is, is going from maybe one bit per second to ultimately megabits and then gigabits per second and the ability to do conceptual consensual telepathy. Now the the input to the brain is much higher because of,
especially because of vision. Depending upon how you count it, it, it might be on the order of a megabit or in the megabit range for input primarily due to sight. So, but even for input, we, we think that can be dramatically increased to, to the Gigabit plus level. And, and, and a lot of the, the thinking that we do is which we take a concept in our mind and we compress that into a small
number of symbols. So when you're trying to communicate with somebody else, you're actually trying to model their mind state and, and, and then take perhaps a quite a complex idea that you have, maybe even a, a complex image or, or scene or kind of mental video and try to compress that into a few words or a few keystrokes. And it's necessarily going to be very lossy. Your ability to communicate is very limited by how fast you can
talk and how fast you can type. And what we're talking about is unlocking that potential to enable you to communicate, like I said, thousands, perhaps millions of times faster than is is currently possible. This is an incredibly profound breakthrough. This would this would be a fundamental change to what it means to be a human. So we're, we're starting off with reducing human suffering.
So or, or addressing issues that people have, say if they've been in an accident or they have some neural disease that's degenerative so they're losing capability to move their body or some some kind of injury essentially.
So enabling our first product is called telepathy and that enables someone who has lost the ability to command their body to be able to communicate with the computer and move the mouse and and actually operate a computer with roughly the same dexterity, ultimately much more dexterity than a than a human with working
hands. Then the our next product is, is blind sight, which will enable those who have total loss of vision, including if they've lost their eyes or the optic nerve or maybe have never seen were blind, even blind from birth to be able to see again, initially low resolution, but ultimately very high resolution and, and then in multiple
wavelengths. So you could be like Geordie La Forge in Star Trek and you can see in radar, you can see an infrared, ultraviolet, superhuman capabilities, Severnetic enhancement essentially. And then along the way, this should help us understand a lot more about consciousness. What does it mean to be a conscious creature? We'll understand vastly more about the nature of consciousness as a result of this. And then ultimately, I think this helps mitigate the civilizational risk of
artificial intelligence. We're, we are actually already, we're already sort of have 3 layers of thinking. There's the limbic system, which is your kind of your instincts, the cortic, your cortical system, which is your higher level planning and thinking. And then the tertiary layer, which is the computers and machines that you interact with, you like your phone, your all the applications you use. So people actually are already a Cyborg.
You can maybe have an intuitive sense for this by how much you miss your phone if you leave it behind. Leaving your phone behind is like, it's almost like missing limb syndrome, but your phone is somewhat of an extension of yourself, as is your computer. So you, you already have this digital tertiary layer, but the bandwidth between your cortex and your digital tertiary layer is limited by speech and by and by how fast you can move your fingers and how fast you can
consume information visually. So, so, but I think it's actually very important for us to address that input output bandwidth constraint in order for the collective will of humanity to match the will of artificial intelligence. That's my intuition at least. So let's see and, and what what this presentation is mostly about is attracting smart humans to come and work with us on this problem. So this is not a presentation to raise money or anything like that. We're actually, you know, very
well funded. We have a lot of great investors. Some of the smartest people in the world are invested in neural link, but we we need smart humans to come here and help solve this problem. So with that, let's let's proceed. Hey everyone, my name is DJ, my Co founder and president of Neuro Link. And as Elon mentioned, well, actually we're standing in the middle of our robot space.
We have a stage set up, but you know, this is actually where some of the next generation most advanced surgical robots are being built. So welcome to our space. It's important to highlight that this technology is not being built in the dark. This is not a secret lab where we're not sharing any of the progress. In fact, we're actually sharing, you know the progress very openly and as well as also telling you exactly what we're
going to be doing. And we're hoping to progress on that as as diligently and as safely and as carefully as possible. So to start off, 2 years ago when we did our previous fundraising round, we outlined this path and timeline to 1st Human. And we currently have a clinical trials in the US for a product that we call Telepathy, which allows users to control phone or computer purely with their thoughts. And you're going to see how we do this and what the impact that
this has had. And not only have we launched this clinical trial, but as of today, we have not just one, but 7 participants and we have an approval. And we also have an approval to launch this trial in Canada, UK and the UAE. So I guess before we dive into what this technology is and what we built, but I wanted to quickly share a video with you guys of when our first five participants met each other for the first time, so. Here you go. All right, we have everyone
together. What's up guys? Thanks everybody for joining. Definitely want to introduce all of you. Yeah, I'm Nolan, AKA P1. My name's Alex. I am the second participant in the Neural link study. I am Brad Smith, the ALS Cypler. P. Three, my name is Mike. G4 ALS like Francis. Yeah, I'm RJ, I'm P5, and I just, yes, I'm trying to do this one to the team here. So yeah, appreciate it. And all them Trailblazer, you know, somebody's got to get first, man. That was you. Appreciate that.
What's been your favorite thing you've been able to do with the neural link so far? I've just had a good time being able to use it as I travel flying and draw a little mustache on a cat. Had a lot of fun doing that. I mean, I've just had a good time playing around with it. Oh, you know what? I do know what my favorite BCI feature is? Probably not a feature, but I just I love web grid more than I love anything in my life probably. I think I could play that game
non-stop forever. Has to be Fusion 360. Being able to design parts, design the hat logo with the BCI. That's what's up. Pretty sweet. That's sweet. Yeah, yeah, I have a little Arduino that takes input from my quad stick, converts it into APPM signal to go to ARC truck. Cool Little Rock crawler. Well, with the BCII. Wrote code, can you? To drive the plane with the quad stick, that's awesome. The best thing I like about an airline is being able to continue.
To provide for my family and continue working. I think my favorite thing is probably been able to turn on my TV. Yeah, like the first time in 2 1/2 years I was able to do that. So it's pretty sweet. But I like shooting the hobbies. That's that's kind of nice. Excited to see what BC is got going on. I got a question. What's your shirt say? I said. I'd do a thing called whatever I want. Now, one of the major figure of merits that we have is to keep track of monthly hours of
independent PCI use. Effectively, are they using the PCI and not at the clinic but at their home. And what we have noticed and this is a plot of all of the different participants, first five participants and their usage per month over the course of the last year and a half. And we're averaging around 50 hours a week of usage and in some cases peak usage of more than 100 hours a week, which is pretty much every waking moments.
So I think it's been incredible to see all of our participants demonstrating greater independence through their use of BCI. Not only that, we've also accelerated our implantation cadence as we've amassed evidence of both clinical safety as well as value to our participants. So to date, we have 4 spinal cord injury participants as well as three ALS participants with the last two surgeries happening within one week of each other. And we're just beginning. This is just tip of the iceberg.
Our end goal is to really build a whole brain interface. And what do we mean by whole brain interface? We mean being able to listen to neurons everywhere, be able to write information to neurons anywhere, be able to have that fast data wireless transfer to enable that high bandwidth connection from our biological brain to the external machines and be able to do all of this with fully automated surgery as well as enable 24 hours of usage.
And towards that goal, we're really working on three major product types. Elon mentioned earlier that our goal is to build a generalized input output platform and technology to the brain. So to afford the output portion of it, which is extremely slow through our meat sticks as as Elon calls them, neat hands that are holding the mics.
We're starting out with helping people with movement disorders either through where they lost the mind body connection either through a spinal cord injury, ALS or a stroke. Be able to regain some of that digital as well as physical independence through a product that we're building called Telepathy. And this is our opportunities to build a high channel read and output device. On the input side of things, there's.
Opportunities for us to help people that have lost the ability to to see be able to regain that site again through a product that we're calling blind sight. And this is our opportunity to build high channel right capabilities. And last but not least, be able to also help people that are suffering from neurological debilitating dysregulation or psychiatric conditions or
neuropathic pain. By inserting our electrodes in reaching any brain regions to be able to insert them not just on the cortical layer but into the sulk eyes as well as deeper parts of the brain. The so-called limbic system to really enable better opportunities to just regain some of that independence. Our North Star metrics is 1. Increasing the number of neurons that we can interface with.
And 2nd, to expand to many diverse area any parts of the brain, starting with microfabrication or lithography to change the way in which we can actually increase the number of neurons that we can see from a single channel. And also doing mixed signal chip design to actually increase the physical channel counts to increase more neurons that we can interface to, to, to sort of allow more information from the
brain to the outside world. And then you know, everything we built from day one of the company has always been read and write capable. And with telepathy, our first product, the focus has been on the read capabilities or the output. And we want to hone in on our write capability and also show that through accessing deeper regions within the, the, the visual cortex that we can actually achieve functional vision.
Let's. Go. So now just to step you through what the product evolution is going to look like in the next three years. Today what we have is 1000 electrodes in the motor cortex, the part of the small part of the brain that you see in this animation called the hand knob area that allows participants control computer cursors as well as gaming consoles. Next quarter, we're planning to implant in the speech cortex to directly decode attentive words from brain signals to speech.
And in 2026, not only are we going to triple the number of electrodes from 1000 to 3000 for more capabilities, we're planning to have our first blind side participant to enable navigation. And in 2027, we're going to continue increasing channel counts, probably another triple, so 10,000 channels and also enable for the first time multiple implants, so not just one in motor cortex, speech cortex or visual cortex, but all of the above.
And finally, in 2028, our goal is to get to more than 25,000 channels per implant, have multiple of these, have ability to access any part of the brain for psychiatric conditions, pain dysregulation and also start to demonstrate what it would be like to actually integrate with AI.
And all this is to say that we're really building towards set of fundamental foundational technology that would allow us to have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of channels with multiple implants for whole grain interfaces that could actually solve not just these debilitating neurological conditions, but be able to go beyond the the limits of our biology. And this vertical integration.
And the talent and team that we have at Neural Link has been and will continue to be the key recipe for rapid progress that we will be making. Just to recap real quick, Neural Link is implanted with precision surgical robot. It's physically invisible and one week later users are able to see their thoughts, transform into actions and to share more about what that experience is like. I'd like to welcome Sahej to the station.
What's up guys? My name is Sahej, I'm from the Brain Computer Interface team here at Neurolink, and I'm going to be talking about two things today. The first thing is, what exactly is the neural link device capable of doing right now? And the second one is how does that actually impact the day-to-day lives of our users? Very Simply put, what the neural link device does right now is it allows you to control devices simply just by thinking.
Now to put that a bit more concretely, I'm about to play a video of our first user. His name is Noland, if you remember from DJ section. And what Noland is doing is he's looking at a normal off the shelf MacBook Pro. And with his Neurolink devices, you're going to see he's going to be able to control the cursor simply with his mind. No eye tracking, no other sensors. And what's special about this particular moment is this is the first time someone is using a Neurolink device to fully
control their cursor. This is not your ordinary brain controlled cursor. This is actually a record-breaking control literally on day one, beating decades of brain computer research. And I'm about to show you the clip on day one, Nolan breaking the BCI world record. Oh well done man, He's a new world record holder. I. Thought it was higher. I thought I would have to get to 5 or something. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
It's pretty cool, yeah. Another really fun thing you could do with the newer Link device, outside of controlling a computer cursor, is you can actually plug it in through USB through a lot of different devices. And here we actually have Nolan playing Mario Kart. Now, what's special about this particular clip is Nolan is not the only Cyborg playing Mario Kart in this clip. We actually have a whole community of users, as mentioned
earlier. And this is literally five of our first users of Neuralink playing Mario Kart together over call now. Yeah, Mario Kart is, it's cool. You know, you're using one joystick and then you're clicking like a couple buttons to throw items. What would be even cooler is what if you could control 2 joysticks at once simultaneously with your mind? What I'm about to show you, and I think this is for the first time someone playing a first person shooter game with a brain
computer interface. This is Alex and RJ playing Call of Duty controlling 1 joystick to move and then the other joystick to like think, point your gun and then shooting people as a button. Here's the larger Here's Alex shooting another person. 'S bikes. Oh dear God, I know I do and I. Want him to freaking. Choose long. When I do, I know he's shot me
in the face. Now that we have a bit of a sense of what the BCI can do, a very important question to answer is how does this impact the day-to-day lives of the people that use it every day? So I'm about to show you a clip going back to Nolan for a second where he talks. We simply just asked him randomly during a day how he enjoys using the BCI couple months ago and this is his
candid reaction. I work basically all day from when I wake up. I'm trying to wake up at like 6:00 or 7:00 AM and I'll do work until session. I'll do session and then I'll work until, you know, 11:12 PM or 12:00 AM I'm, I'm doing like I'm learning my languages, I'm learning my math. I'm like relearning all of my math. I am writing, I am doing the class that I signed up for and I just I wanted to point out that like this is not something I would be able to do out like
without the neuro link. Next I want to talk a bit about Brad. You guys may already know him as the ALS Cyborg and Brad also has ALS and what separates him from other users is he's actually non verbal so he can't speak. Why this is pretty relevant is he relies at least before the neuro link on an eye gaze machine to communicate and a lot of eye gaze machines you can't use outdoors. You really need like a dark room.
So what this means is for the last six years since Brad's been diagnosed with ALS, he's really unable to leave his house. Now with the Neuralink device, we're going to show you a clip of him with his kids at the park, shot by Ashley Vance and the team Guys ready. No, absolutely. I am absolutely doing more with Neuralink than I was doing with eye gaze. I've been a Batman for a long
time, but I go outside now. Going outside has been a huge blessing for me and I can control the computer with telepathy. Dad's watching. OK, He's. Watching on the camera, did he? Lose. One of the arms the last user I want to talk about is Alex. You've seen some clips of him earlier. What's special about Alex to me is he's a fellow left-handed guy who writes in cursive all the
time. And what he mentioned is since a spinal cord injury from like, 3-4 years ago, he's been able unable to just, like, draw or write. And he always brags about how good his handwriting was. So we actually got to put in a test. We gave him a robotic arm. And I think this is the first time you tried using the robotic arm to write anything. And this is a spotted version of writing at the convoy trial and
drawing something now. Yeah, controlling A robotic arm is cool, but this one has a clamp. And what would be cooler is if you could decode the actual fingers, the actual wrist, all the muscles of the hand in real time. Just in the past couple weeks we were able to do that with Alex and you're about to see him and his uncle playing a game. Rock, paper, scissors shoot. Rock, paper, scissors shoot. Rock, paper, scissors shoot rock. Paper. Scissors. Shoot. Cool. Controlling.
Yeah, that's pretty dope. I don't know. And controlling A robotic hand on screen is obviously not super helpful for most people. Fortunately, we have connections with Tesla, who have the optimist hand, and we're actually actively working on giving Alex an optimist hand so that you could actually control it in his real life. And here's actual replay of the end of that video using Alex's
neural signals on an Optus hand. Sean, if you want to play that, Yeah. Actually, let me maybe add a few things to that, which is so as we advance the neural link devices, you should be able to actually have full body control and sensors from an optimist robot. So you could basically inhabit an optimist robot. So not just the hand the whole, the whole thing. So you could like basically mentally remote into an optimist robot and and be kind of cool. The future's going to be weird,
but but but pretty cool. And then now I was. Another thing that could be done also is like for people that have say, lost a limb, lost an arm or a leg or something like that, then we think in the future we'll be able to attach an optimist's arm or legs. And so you kind of like, I remember that scene from Star Wars where Luke Skywalker gets his hand, you know, chopped over the lightsaber and he gets kind
of a robot hand. And I think that's the kind of thing that we'll be able to do in the future working with the newer Lincoln Tesla. So, so it goes far beyond just operating a robot hand, but replacing limbs and, and having kind of a whole body robot experience. And then I think another thing that will be possible, I think it's very likely in the future is to be able to bridge the, the
where the damaged neurons are. So you can take the signal from the brain and, and transmit that signal past where the neurons are damaged or strained to the rest of the body. So you could reanimate the body so that if you have a neural link implant in the brain and then one in the spinal cord, then you you can actually bridge the signals and you could walk again and have full body functionality. Obviously that's what people would prefer.
To be clear, we realized that that would be the preferred outcome and and so that even if you have a broken neck or you could. So we believe I'm, I'm actually at this point I'd say fairly confident that at some point in the future we'll be able to restore full body functionality. Yes. So hello, hello everyone. My name is Nir and I'm leading the BCR application group.
And I think the videos just that Sahel just shared with you, I probably watch them maybe thousands of time, but still I get the goosebump every time I watch them. And I think this is one of the cool perks here at New Orleans when you get a job is that you might get goosebump every week or maybe every few days in good weeks. And, and this is really fun as an engineer, it's really cool because you can build a new feature.
You can build a new machine learning model and use software feature and test it on the same day with the participant and get feedback. And you already saw with our first device Telepathy that we can address a very diverse needs of the different users that we have for moving a cursor to playing games, to move a robotic arm with multiple fingers. And we could not have done it without the neural link device.
The neural link device gives us something that no other device can give us, which is in a single neuron recording from thousands of channels simultaneously. The telepathy products is basically recording the neural activity from the small area in the motor cortex that involve an execution of hand and arm movements. But if we go only about two or three inches below, there's another brain area that's involved in execution of speech.
And with the same device, with the same machine learning model architecture, the same software pipeline, the same surgical robot, we can have a new application and we can do it very quickly. It's really interesting that if we can decode someone intention to speak silently and non vocal communication, we can use that to revolutionize the way we interact with computers, with technology and with information.
Instead of typing with your finger or like moving the mouse or talking to your phone, you'll be able to interact with computer with the speed of thoughts. It will make this interaction much more, much faster and much more intuitive. The computers will understand what you want to do. And we can also expand that to AI. We can now build an interface with AI that you will be able to achieve information, will be able to store our thoughts anywhere, anytime, privately and
silently. Again, because we build a fundamental technology, a platform, and we do everything in house. We own the entire stack from neurons to pixels on the user's computer. Now I'll pass pass it to RUSE to talk about UI for Visa. Thank you, NIA. Each spike that our implant detects goes on a fairly remarkable journey to ultimately form a pixel on a participant's display.
And that experience starts with, of course, unboxing, the very first time that a participant pairs to and meets their implant, this invisible part of their body, and sees their own spikes materialize across the display. From there, they'll go into body mapping and actually imagine moving their arm again and get a feel for what feels natural to
them and what doesn't. And they'll take that into calibration, using one of those motions to actually move a cursor again, iteratively refining their control as they go throughout this process, until finally they're teleported back to their desktop and can experience the magic of neural control for the very first time. And our control interfaces is where the OS integration that we do really shines, letting us adapt both control and feedback for every interaction.
So for familiar interactions like scrolling, we can surface an indicator over the scrollable parts of the display, add a touch of gravity to automatically pop a participant's cursor onto that indicator as they approach, show the actual velocities that we decode inside of it, and add a bit of momentum to those velocities to carry them forward as they glide across the page. There are also unique interactions that we need to solve for in this space.
For example, when a participant is watching a movie or just talking to somebody next to them, the brain is very active still, and that activity can actually induce motion in the cursor, distracting them from that moment. So when a participant wants to just get their cursor out of the way, they can push it into the edge of the display to park it there. And of course we add gravity to sort of hold it still, but they can push it out with either just a firm push or in this case, a gesture.
And of course, it's when it goes without saying that all of these control interfaces are designed hand in hand with our participants. So huge shout out to both Noland and Brad for helping us design these two. And those control interfaces, of course, extend typing.
We have a great software keyboard that does everything you'd expect it to, popping up when a participant clicks on a text field, giving them feedback about the click on the surface of the key, and supporting both dictation and swipe. Hi everyone, I'm Harrison and ML Engineer here at Neural Link. And I must say, being an ML engineer at Neural Link is a bit like being a kid in a candy store.
When you think of the inputs to most ML systems out there, you might think of pixels of tokens or of a user's Netflix watch history. The input to our systems is a little different. It is pure raw brain power. And when we think about the ML systems we can build here at Neuralink, really we're limited by our imagination and our creativity. There's no reason our ML systems can't do anything that the human brain can do, such as controlling a phone, typing, or even gaming.
Right here to my left is actual footage of Alex, one of our participants, playing a first person shooter against RJ, another one of our participants. Now, for those unfamiliar with first person shooters, this is not a trivial feat. It requires 2 fully independent joysticks or 4 continuous degrees of control, as well as multiple reliable buttons. Now contrary to popular belief, the neural link does not simply read people's minds, it's simply reading neuronal activations
corresponding to motor intent. So one of the fun challenges with this project was figuring out which motions were going to be mapped to the joystick. We started with the typical left thumb and right thumb, but quickly found that the dominant hand overshadowed the non dominant hand. My personal favorite is we had one of our participants imagine walking for the left joystick and aiming for the right
joystick. So in game, they were simply doing naturalistic motions like you might do in virtual reality in Ready Player 1, and that was really cool to watch. What we ended up on was the thumb for the left joystick and the wrist for the right joystick. And I challenge the audience to try to replicate their emotions. I'm really in all of them being able to pull this off. I want to talk a bit about the progress to our cursor
calibration experience. To my left, here you can see RJ completing his first ever cursor calibration with a redesigned Open the Flow, where he first gather information about his intent and how to map the neural activity to the first time he controls a cursor, to the final product where he has smooth and fluid control of his computer. And most remarkably, this experience took only 15 minutes from start to finish, 15 minutes from not 15 minutes from no control to fluid computer use.
Contrast that to a year and a half ago with P1, where that was multiple hours to get to the same level of control and several engineers standing around a table pulling their hair out. There was virtually no need for neural link engineers to even be at this session. This was basically an out-of-the-box experience for our participants. And even more remarkably, we're continuing to smash day one records, with RJ being able to achieve 7 BPS on his very first day with a neural link.
Now such an effective and efficient calibration process is only made possible by high fidelity estimations of a user intention or labels. And to briefly illustrate just how challenging of a problem that is, this is an animation of myself trying to draw circles on my desktop with a mouse. Now the task was simple, draw uniform circles at a constant speed, repeatedly. And as you can see by that animation, I am horrible at that. Even though my intent was pretty obvious, unambiguous, the
execution was really poor. There is a ton of variation in both speed and the shape itself. To visualize this a little differently, each row here is one of those circles unwound in time with synchronized starts, and you can just see how much variation there is in the timing of each circle as well as I'm doing at any given point in time. Orthogonal to the labeling problem is neural non stationarity, or the tendency of neural signals to drift over time. And I think that's honestly a
beautiful thing, right? If you if your neural signals didn't drift, you couldn't grow. When you wake up the next day, you're not the same person you were the day before. You've learned, you've grown, you've changed, and so too must your neural data change. This animation.
Here is a simple illustration of the learned representation by the decoder and how it drifts the further away we get from the day it was trained on. This is one of the key challenges we need to solve here at Neurolink to unlock fluid and product level experience for our users. Hey everyone, Hey everyone, my name is Joey. Blind Sight is our project to build a visual prosthesis to
help the blind see again. Users would wear a pair of glasses with an embedded camera and receive an implant in their visual cortex. Scenes from the environment are recorded by the camera and processed in the patterns of stimulation delivered to the brain, causing visual perception and restoring functionality. Now blind sight will be enabled by placing our implant into visual cortex. This is a new brain area for us, and this brings new
opportunities and challenges. So the surface of the brain for visual cortex represents just a few degrees of angle in the center of the visual field. Larger fields of view are represented deep within the cortical folds of the calcarine fissure. Our threads are able to access these deeper structures, providing the possibility of restoring vision over a functional, useful visual field.
So the N1 implant has had experimental stimulation capabilities for quite some time, but our new S2 chip is designed from the ground up for stimulation. It provides over 1600 channels of electrical stimulation, high dynamic range recording capabilities and a wide range of micro stimulation currents and voltages. We can achieve these capabilities because we are vertically integrated and we designed this custom ASIC in
house. Similarly, we design and fabricate our electrode threads in house, and here you can see one of our standard threads designed for recording in an electron micrograph for blind sight. Our requirements are a little different, and our vertical integration allows us to rapidly iterate on the design and manufacturing of these threads for this new purpose. So here I'm using Red Arrows to highlight the electrode contacts, which are optimized for stimulation.
And as you can see, they're a little bit larger, which results in a lower electrical impedance for safe and effective charge delivery, which is important for blind sight. Now, how can we calibrate our implant for blind sight? So here's one way we stimulate on the array, picking say three different channels. The user perceives something, say 3 spots of light somewhere in their visual field and points
at them. We track their arm and eye movements and repeat this process for each of the channels on the array. And here's what a simulated example of a blind sight vision could look like after calibration. Now I showed you how for blind sight, we need to insert threads deeper into the brain than we have previously, and doing this requires state-of-the-art medical imaging. So we worked with Siemens to get some of the best scanners on Earth.
We built out our imaging core from scratch in the past year. Actually, it was faster than that. It was about four months from dirt to done. Since bringing the scanners online, we've scanned over 50 internal participants, building out a database of human structural and functional anatomy. What can we do with the imaging information from these scanners so medical imaging can be used for surgical placement?
It lets us parcel it out brain regions by their function and we use our imaging capabilities to refine the placement for telepathy. It also gives us the capability to target new brain regions for future products such as blind sight or speech prosthesis. And we're working towards more capabilities. So one click, automated planning of surgery from functional images to robot insertion targets. Here you can see a screen capture from one of our in house tooling to do end to end
surgical planning. You can see a region of motor cortex known as hand knob and the thread trajectory plans that will be sent directly to the robot. This is a really incredible degree of automation that's only possible because we're controlling the system from one end to the other. My name is John and I lead the robot mechanical team. This is our current R1 robot. It was used to implant the first 7 participants. This robot works really well, but it has a few flaws.
One of which is the cycle time is rather slow. So to insert each thread it takes in a best case scenario 17 seconds. And many cases external disturbances cause us to have to retry to reinsert, grasp that thread and then reinsert it. To scale our number of neuron or neurons access through higher channel count, increased numbers of threads, we need to have a much faster cycle time. So let me introduce our next generation robot, which is right
here. Through rethinking the way that we hold the implant in front of the robot, by holding it directly in front on on the robot head, we will achieve an 11 times cycle time improvement. So each thread takes 1 1/2 seconds. We also scale up a lot of surgery. Workflow process improvements through deleting the separate operator station and implant stand. Now the outside of the robot looks pretty similar between the two, but it's what's inside that
really counts. Each system has been redesigned from the the ground up with the focus on reliability, manufacturability, serviceability and using a lot of our vertical integration techniques. It's enabled us to have a lot more control of the system end to end. Now that fast cycle time doesn't mean much if it's not compatible with a significant portion of
the human population. Prior to each surgery we scan our participants anatomy and ensure that they will be compatible with the robot and vice versa. Unfortunately, the robot isn't compatible with everyone so we had to extend the reach of the needle in the next generation robot and now we're compatible with more than 99% of the human population. We've also increased the depth of the needle can insert threads.
Now we can reach more than 50mm from the surface of the brain, accessing and enabling new indications. We have to produce a ton of custom sterile components for each surgery. We actually supply more than 20 of these parts. Many of these parts are made through traditional CNC manufacturing capabilities, which we do just on the other side of this wall actually, and some custom developed processes like this femtosecond laser milling used to manufacture the tip of the needle.
Now these processes take quite a bit of time, effort and cost. So let's take a look at how we're going to reduce costs and time for one of the components. So the current needle cartridge has a total cycle time of about 24 hours and the machine components cost about $350.00. The final assembly is performed by a set of like highly skilled technicians. They have to glue 150 Micron diameter Canyon onto this wire EDM machined stainless steel base plate.
They have to Electro Polish a 40 Micron wire into a sharp taper and then they have to thread that 40 Micron wire into the a 60 Micron hole in the Canyon. This is done manually and then they finally have to laser Weld all the components together. Next generation needle cartridge takes only 30 minutes of cycle time and $15 in component. We were able to delete the wire EDM machined base plate and the Kenya gluing step by switching
to an insert molded component. So we get a box of these base plates with the Kenya was already installed for like 1000 of them for like a couple 5-10 dollars a piece. We also deleted the Electro polishing step with the revised needle tip geometry, which is also compatible with inserting the threads through the dura. We have a few revised manufacturing techniques to delete the manual threading through a basically a funnel. Rather simple, but it has been a
big impact. And then we're able to delete the laser alding through using crimping. Hi. Hi. I'm Julian. I'm one of the leads on the implant team. So the way humans communicate today, if they want to output information, is by using their hands and their voice, as I'm doing right now. And if you want to receive information, you use your ears and your eyes. And of course, that's how you're
receiving this very talk. But we've built this implant and this implant is very special because it is the first time that we're able to add a completely new mode of data transfer into and out of the brain. If you look at this device in a nutshell, it's really just sampling voltages in the brain and sending them over radio.
But if you zoom out and look at the system from end to end, what you actually see is that we're connecting your brain or biological neural net to a machine learning model or a silicon neural net on the right hand side. And I actually think this is really elegant because the machine learning model on the right hand side is in fact inspired by neurons on the left hand side. And so in some sense, we're really extending the fundamental
substrate of the brain. For the first time, we're able to do this in a mass market product that's a very, very special piece of hardware. So these are some of the first implants that we ever built. There are electrodes that were made with our in house lithography tools. We have custom ASICS that we also designed in house. And this was really a platform for us to develop the technology that allows us to sense micro level volts in the brain across thousands of channels simultaneously.
We learnt a lot from this. But as you'll notice in the right to images, there are USBC connectors on these devices. These were not really the most implantable implants. This next set of images are the wireless implants, and it was a complete evolution that we went through to add the battery, the antenna, the radio, and to make it actually fully implantable. Once it's implanted, it's completely invisible.
It's very compact, it's modular, and it's a general platform that you can use in many places in the brain. Going from that top row to the bottom row is very challenging. The implant you see on the bottom right here is in fact the device that we have working in seven participants today, and it's augmenting their brain every day and restoring their autonomy. But getting to that point involved a huge number of formidable engineering
challenges. We first had to make a hermetic enclosure, passing 1000 separate conductors through the enclosure of the device. We had to figure out how to make charging seamless and work with very tight thermal constraints in a very, very small area. And then we also had to scale up our testing infrastructure so that we could support large scale manufacturing and very safe devices and have confidence in our iteration cycle. So what's next?
We're going to be increasing our manufacturing so that we don't just produce, you know, a certain like a small number of implants per year, but thousands and then eventually millions of implants per year. We're also going to be increasing channel count. More channels means more neurons are sensed, which means more capabilities. In some sense, We often think a lot about the the Moore's Law of neurons that we're interacting with.
And in the same way that Moore's Law propelled forward many subsequent revolutions in computing, we think that sensing more and more neurons will also completely redefine how we interact with computers and reality at large. I want to leave you with one final thought. When I was a child I used a 56 KB modem to access the Internet. If you remember what it's like, you would go to a website. You're lucky. You're lucky. Bastard. Yeah, When I was a child we had acoustic couplers. Oh yeah, OK.
So just beep. Just beep at each other. Yeah, the the first modem was the acoustic coupler, incredible device honestly. But then if you, I guess if you're my age, you started with 56 K bit modem and you, you would go to a website and and like there would be an image and it would, it would scroll like slowly it was loading pixel by pixel on the screen. So that that's what it's like to be bandwidth limited. Now imagine using the current
Internet with that same modem. It it's like it's inconceivable. It would be impossible to do so. What broadband Internet did to the 56 KB modem is what this hardware is going to do to the brain. We are trying to drastically expand the amount of bandwidth that you have access to, to have a much richer experience and superhuman capabilities.
So I guess just to kind of close out and to recap today Neurolink is working reliably and has already changed the lives of seven participants and making a real impact. And our next milestone is to go to market and enable scaling of this technology to thousands of people and as well as expand functionalities beyond just the movement to enable robotic, sophisticated robotic arm control, speech, vision, give sight back and even getting to the speed of thought.
I, I hope you got a good sort of sample of our technology stack and the challenges that we have and I'd like to hand over the mic to Elon for any closing remarks. Well, we're trying to give you a sense of the the depth of talent at Neurolink. There's a lot of really smart people working on a lot of important problems. This is one of the most difficult things to to actually succeed in creating and have it work and work at scale and be reliable and available for millions of people at an
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