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Elon Musk REALLY hates this guy

Dec 05, 202525 min
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Block 3 is on us. It's coming. It's so crazy that this is actually happening. I cannot believe it. Block 3 which they will send people to the moon with and eventually things to Mars. But we have some moon updates today. We have some block 3 updates today. We have some Elon updates today. We also have some other like the interior actually of the the moon Lander, the HLS Starship is we're gonna talk about that a little bit. There's a little bit of information on that that SpaceX

released. And also there's a there's the crew display that they showed a little bit ago and we're gonna talk about that a little bit. But we also have to talk about something that's very important here. And this is that Elon Musk and Starship and company, SpaceX and company, I've been pushing for Starship HLS ever since the NASA director put back on the table that Blue Origin has been kind of put back in the mix with this blue moon. And look at this guy, Jared Isaacman.

What's up, buddy? What's up, Jared? Now this blue moon, look at how big this thing is, by the way, gold surrounded by gold royalty of Jeff Bezos standing at the base of this Lander. Now this is this is the key factor for SpaceX releasing what we just saw, which is all of this information about the HLS Lander on their website.

Because they don't they, they were told that they're going to be opening up the HLS Lander again for other companies to, to be part of this HLS demonstration and also eventually landing people on the moon surface. So SpaceX released a bunch of stuff. It's basically damage control, to be honest with you at this point. And this is a little bit ago. So they did release this a few weeks ago, but I wanted to this is this all leads into where we're at today. So this is all going to work out.

Now I want to show you this, what I was talking about earlier too, the interior crew display for Starship. OK, so these all touch screens for Starship HLS, not just regular Starship that's point to point or Starship that's going to launch cargo or anything like that. This is HLS Starship and this is the interior. And there's it's fuzzy. I got this off Twitter, but it's fuzzy. But you can see right here, you can see it's where my magnifying glass is down here, a crater on

the moon. You can also see a few things. Looks like a regular, like a regular display from an airplane or a jet or something like that. Altimeter tells you height, how far away you are from the surface, where you're going, how level you are. And also this shows you where you are. This is a cool part that shows you kind of where you are on the map of the moon as you're flying in. And also this is, it looks like it's a real time display of what's going on outside.

So there will be cameras on the outside of the HLS Lander. OK, so we know that we may be getting feeds, which is really cool. We may be getting feeds of the HLS Lander as it lands on the moon. Now, I'm not sure if that's going to actually happen because if the HLS Lander has a little incident, nobody really wants to see that, right? Like, I don't, I wouldn't want to see that. I don't want to see it tip over. I don't want to see people get harmed.

I don't want to see any of that. But I think it's really cool and it's important that we show people what's going on on the surface of the moon as it's happening because this is a huge, huge deal. Stargazer girl 79, hello, welcome back. We are happy that you're here. And we're going to get into the pole in chat as well, which is will Starship launch in January? I don't going to get into that a little bit too. How you been, Stargazer?

Now this is another post from SpaceX and this is about the HLS thing, right? Like many Americans were thankful for Mr. Brideson because Jim Brinstein just told told SpaceX in the world that SpaceX is not going to do this. Oh, Jim Bryanstein, I don't know, man. There's, there's parts of me that are like that. I love Jim Bryanstein and I think he's done a great job for all of NASA. He's done great stuff.

But at the same time, and I really see a video about this at the same time now he's he's a paid lobbyist. So what he's doing is pushing other companies that are not SpaceX to do SpaceX Y things like HLS and launch astronauts to the moon on other Landers. Now, the problem here is, is that SpaceX won the contract, right? They already won the contract. They know they won the contract. And the, you know, Jim Breinstein, he doesn't.

I don't want to say this because it sounds kind of rude, but it's like, in the grand scheme of things, he's a lobbyist. He gets paid to lobby for other companies. So he gets paid a lot of money to lobby for other companies and to push SpaceX down. And we don't want that. We don't want SpaceX to be pushed down. We want them all to be around. We want all these Landers to work, but we don't want them to cancel anybody because you don't agree with them. It doesn't make any sense.

If you don't agree with with Elon, if you don't agree with Spacex's plans, that's fine. They won the contract. They won the contract. They should be able to do this. They're already, they're kind of behind, but so is all of SOS, so is all of the HLS program. We don't even know what the space, if the space suits are done. We don't know anything else about docking mechanisms. We don't know anything about the Orion. The Orion Artemis 2 hasn't even launched around the moon yet.

We don't even know if we can get to the moon with people. We know that we can dock things, right? But we don't know if Starship can dock with an Orion capsule yet. So Jim Breidenstein is lobbying for other companies to come in here and take that spot, even though we have not even figured out if that is a a real thing yet. And it's gonna take a while. It's gonna take a while for Starship to get to a point where they can launch an HLS version of this.

We haven't even seen any really of the HLS other than what SpaceX had released in this document on their website. And they're showing renders. More renders, more renders. And I love renders. Don't get me wrong, I love renders. But here's an interior shot of the HMS. There's no actual photos of them working on this thing. There's no proof or no evidence. And Jim Breinstein is. There's one thing about Jim that

I can agree with. He says that SpaceX has fallen behind and that SpaceX is they're not going to make their deadlines for HLS, which it's possible they don't. But you know what, every single space program, including Apollo, there's been setbacks. Everything, every single rocket launch that's ever happened ever, you can, they never launch on time, for one. They always get, they always get pushed back. There's always some technical difficulties happening somewhere along the line.

So nothing's going to happen on time. I I And it's not because somebody doesn't like SpaceX. That's not because SpaceX isn't good. It's because that's just what happens with rocket. It's just rocket engineering and rocket science is really, really hard. So it's difficult. And the plan for SpaceX to launch humans to the HLS, it's kind of in stasis. You know, they keep building, NASA keeps building. NASA builds its SLS, NASA launches some people to the moon early 2026, or around the moon,

I should say, not to the moon. They're going to go to wish the moon around the moon, then come back down to Earth, but they're not going to land on the moon. So the, the plan for SpaceX is to continue building HLS, the version of HLS that they have right now. And also they can't. And this is the this is the thing with a prototype rocket that Starship is right now. They can't commit to a full design until they know that the current Starship Block 3 is

complete. Because if something goes wrong with the plumbing on the interior, they would have to RIP out everything in the HLS rocket if they're building it. If something doesn't work out for regular Starship, they're going to have to rebuild everything for HLS Starship. If everything doesn't go well with the exterior, if something doesn't go well with the exterior of Starship, HLS will

have to be rebuilt as well. So then building HLS in tandem with the regular Starship at the same time, it makes sense to a certain degree. And that's why we have renders, and that's why we don't have a completed HLS prototype yet. That's because we don't even have a completed Starship prototype yet. They haven't even made it to orbit, really. They made it to orbital velocity, but they haven't made it to orbit. And that's why we haven't seen HLS.

It's because there's no proof from the regular Starship that HLS will work. Now, granted, HLS doesn't have to come back down to Earth. HLS Starship just goes to the moon, docks with Orion, and then HLS goes down to the surface of the moon, comes back up, docks with Orion. Orion brings the people back down to Earth.

So they don't need all the other stuff around, you know, they don't need the panels, they don't need the heat shield around Starship. So the moon version is going to be different, but it's going to be similar but completely different, if that makes sense. And Next up, this is what Elon and SpaceX has said about Bridenstine and said basically like Jim Breidenstein, he's a shill.

Now he's lobbying called for a firm called the Artemis Group representing the host of aerospace companies vying for a NASA business. Then if you click through here open Secrets lobbying firm profile Artemis Group Oklahoma Look at all this money that goes to the I don't want donate this sorry open secrets can't donate to you, but they send money for lobbyists. Look at how much money these companies send to lobbyists to the Artemis Group in Oklahoma.

If we did all of this, we, if we count all this up, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe half a million dollars, 10/20/20 thousand 30,010 thousand 10,030 thousand 60,000 from Impulse space 20,000 and then you go on 60,000 Impulse Space Oklahoma Space Industry Devil Authority, Development Authority 50,050 thousand 30,000 and these are all companies that are vying for business from NASA and they're spending this amount of money.

And by the way, look at this United Mother Effing Launch Alliance. Look at this. Jim Bridenstine is a rich man. Now the NASA salary wasn't enough. Look at this 300 two 3230. So that is 700 some odd $1000 just from ula going to his group that are positioning themselves as a group that can help you lobby to get your company in front of Congress. So they will send you to the moon and then you'll get that

big ass contract. You get that billion dollar contract from NASA or numerous contracts from NASA. So Artemis Group, Oklahoma, University of Arizona sending of 30 thousand 60,000 via set via set of $0.00 whoops down here via set of 0. They're like, hey, by the way, we're just checking out our our accounting at $0.00 there, 80,000 there. And then our last page as a few others too, 60 thousand 20,060 for Voyager Space Holdings. I wonder how much of this is just people just figuring out a

way to pad their own pocketbook. I mean, for a lobbying group, you have a nine to five job, right? How much money do you think you need in a year to be comfortable? If you're Jim Bridenstine, let's just say it's $250,000 a year. That's just, and that's good, like quarter $1,000,000 a year, right? That's really good money. You just take one ula paycheck, brother, right there, 2:30 right there. That pays Jim Bridenstine for one like one guy, right?

And how many lobbyists do you need to get all these people to get all these companies in the good graces of NASA? Do good work. If you do good work, that's what they tell you, right? That's what they always tell you. It's like you do your best work and somebody will figure it out. Somebody will find you. But you know what? It all tracks down to money. It's all money, $230,000 could go straight to you. Jim Bridenstine. But what if Jim? Jimmy Jam? I used to call him Jimmy Jam.

I thought he was a great guy. I think he still is probably a good guy. But if I were him and I had a family and I'd be like, you know what, All I got to do is some paperwork and I got to talk to some people, shake some hands. He's a politician too. And I'm not here to rag on Jim. I'm just telling you how it is. I like, I think Jim's probably a stand up dude, probably a good guy, but when you get offered the position of being a lobbyist and they just go, you know what

Jim? Not just 2:30, we're going to give you this. We're going to give you 500,000 a year. I'm going to give you half $1,000,000 a year. You do this every year. We're going to guarantee you $500,000 a year for the next 4 years. So you're going to make $2,000,000 off of this, then also probably have other gigs going on because anything that's a lobbyist, if you're a lobbyist, you have other people that work for you. So this other money goes to people that help you out too,

right? So this $500,000, quarter million or half, $1,000,000 goes a gym per year, every year. And then the other money goes to a few other people. They spread it out amongst a bunch of different other people and everybody's making a making bank. If you're a lobbyist, you make bank and especially if you're lobbying the United States government. And this is open secrets. So these are, if I were to put all of this money, I'm just going to add this together and

ChatGPT real quick. OK, so page one, let me do some ChatGPT add these totals together. We're going to do this together. I haven't done this yet, so I think I think it'll be interesting to see how much money this whole lobbying firm brings in, right? That's 2:30. That's zero. Let's get down here. Come on, ChatGPT, don't fail me now. Don't hallucinate. And that's what's great about ChatGPT and all these LLMS is that they will sometimes be very, very useful for you in

situations like this. But I think let's see how much it's going to bring up some wild number and then let's see what in Open Secrets if there's any other information here. So it's evaluating the $60,000 entries just OK, so they made 2.365 million dollars, $2.365 million. OK, So 500,000 of that, let's just say that goes to Jim, right? And then the rest of it goes to, I wonder how many people are lobbyists for Artemis Group Oklahoma? How many people work there?

Lobbyists. Let's see 5 lobbyists. OK, Jim Bridenstine, Christopher Ingram, Mark Pelant, Gabe Sherman and Catherine Wall. All of these people are making some bank, right? OK, so how much was that? 2.365 million / 5? Divide that by 5 by 5. So this isn't the actual salary they're going to get, but OK, so that's $473,000 if they paid everybody equally in this lobbying Group 4, 173. So my guess was right, because you don't need overhead for this, right?

There's some, there might be like some plane trips and stuff, but everything's virtual now. You get on the Zoom call with the senator. Sure, you got to go to some whatever, you got to go some meet ups and whatever, but that's, that's negligible compared to your half $1,000,000 a year salary because you're lobbying for ula and you're lobbying for all these companies.

And I, you know, somebody like Impulse Space and Red Wire Space, they don't have a lot of money to talk to and they don't have the resources to talk to NASA all the time. They, they just don't. So somebody like Jim and his crew here, they obviously have, they serve a purpose. They have these people's ears, right. So this lobbying group is important for for these aerospace companies. And I'm just looking at Department of Defense. Yeah.

And if you get a Department of Defense contract, one of these companies, dude, this is going to change your, your whole company. And these are all the companies. All the companies here that do everything. So groups that have retained Artemis Group in 2025. So let's see here. 200,000 and these are just the ones that they know of right now. But there could be more State of Oklahoma, the state of Oklahoma Ula $760,000. All of this, all this money goes straight to the lobbyists.

And you know what? I don't think there's anything wrong with people communicating, right? I don't think there's anything wrong with anybody doing what they do because I think that if you're a small company like X Labs who can only give $10,000 but does that, you know you sell a package, right? I do consulting. I get it, I get it. I do consulting. I consult for business to business brands that are trying to break their way into social media.

So they pay me because I have expertise in this. I've been doing this channel for a long time. I haven't done live streams in a long time, but I've been doing this channel and other channels for a while. So I have an expertise in it. I've been doing it for a very long time. I know this hardware, I know the software, I know the, the, the way things work. So you pay me money to do this. I'm a, I'm that guy. I'm a consultant and that's what these people are.

These consultants though, they talk to people with a lot more money than than I talked to. You know, I've, I've worked with big companies. I worked with Silicon Valley backed start-ups that are worth 1,000,050 million, $60 million. I just worked with a company that is worth 40 million

dollars, $50 million. And the fact that these people and these lobbyist groups, I get it, you make a lot of money doing what they do. And all you, all you have to really do is talk to a few people that, you know, like, hey, you know, I got this company Astro Net XPBC and you know, they got this really cool product.

I want you to take a look at it. And here's what it is, you know, and then Astro Net X gives you 50 grand to talk to somebody and the consulting space 100% you can make a bunch of money. If you do it right and you find the right clients, you can make a bunch of money. I have some people that I know that are making $300,000 every month doing consulting, not for this, not for aerospace, but for business to like large businesses, 300 grand and they have a couple clients.

It's incredible. It's insane the amount of money people make. It's insane. I don't make that much money, Not as much, not $300,000 a month or I'd do it. If I was making $300,000 as much, I'd be month, I'd be way too busy to do anything else. But if I also made $300,000 a month, I'd work for like a year and then I'd be like you know what? I'm done. Worked for like 2 years and be like you know what, everyone's good, all my friends and family

are good and then I'd be done. But these little companies that can give them $50,000 or X Labs here to give them $10,000, they have no chance. You know, X Labs has no chance to get in front of the people that they need to get in front of in Congress and people, decision makers, the people at the top of these companies, so or at the top of these agencies. So I get it. I totally get it. But SpaceX was like, you know what, don't do it to us.

He deserves credit for spearheading the creation of the Artemis program. That's great. After departing NASA, he created a lobbying firm called the Artemis Group. So he saw an opportunity. Jim Breidenstein, smart guy, saw an opportunity. So Jim created this lobbying firm called the Artemis Group. Maybe he takes a million because somebody else 250,000 because somebody else 250,000 and then he takes a million per year. Works four years on this, makes $4 million.

Him and his family are good, but they represent a large amount of companies. Their campaigning against our ship is either misguided or intentionally misleading. SpaceX was selected to design and develop a HLS for Artemis along with Blue Origin Dynetics during Mr. Bryan's tenure as NASA administrator. We know this. We all know this. And then he's trying to. It was confirmed repeatedly following protest and litigation from the companies not selected, which delayed the start of work

on the contract for many months. Yeah, so it's it's a really weird situation to be put in, I'm sure for Jim, because he probably thinking he's doing the right thing because these small companies are trying to get in there and they just can't because they don't have the resources to space XS.

Elon has all the money. And when you have the money, you have the power, you have the resources, you have the freedom to do whatever you want to do. And Elon is just too powerful for anybody to to fight against, right?

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