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Just a comment because I've heard similar comments from other members of your party and of course I love working with you guys. When when Elon Musk or Doge or or the president look into some of the federal employees around here and we all know federal employees around here because maybe we have relatives, we have friends what not work in the
government. We hear some scare stories about people doing and there are many, many hard working federal employees and glad we have good federal employees. But we hear anecdotal evidence of people doing very little. If President Trump is the head of the executive branch and he discovers some employees doing very little, your position is apparently that we must keep these people going through the next budget or what have you and keep doing very little.
It is obvious to me that both President Trump and the American public, upon discovering people who are doing very little work, should ask that those employees be terminated. It's not something he does joyfully, but that is what you do if you are running the executive branch. And it is ridiculous that we have to have President Trump attacked and the Republican Party attacked when an effort is made to find employees who are doing very little.
I am glad that President Trump is assigned people look into this. And I, I, I, they're, they're critical things you can say about the Republicans, but I wish you'd focus on that rather than trying to claim that every federal employee here in this town is necessary. Would you yield for a question? Sure. Well, because you're bringing up that it should be OK and you see no problem with the Trump administration and with DOGE doing this mass firing because, quote UN quote, people are doing
very little. How are they figuring out who's doing very little? I'm just curious. Well, you'll have to ask them. Right. I'll have to ask them. So you're OK with being behind a, well, something that's happening? Mass Congressman Groffman's time. The president is in charge of the executive branch. I would assume at any given time people are being hired and being fired, probably more than have been the last 50 years around
here. But they are they are are not going to report to Congress every time they fill a position is unnecessary that would. Be sure, gentlemen, yield this time to Mr. Gosar you know, Glenn, I'd like to ask you about wasn't wasn't there. This is not novel. Having somebody like this wasn't the Ezekiel Emanuel part of the Obamacare. And I don't know what's more personal or our personal financial or our personal. No, all presidents have unconfirmed advise.
Thank you. That is not a new thing either. Where the gentleman yields. Chair, gentleman yields back right. Is it your position that the president can file delete any agency? Credit Oh yeah, Joe, who yielded his time back chair, goes Mr. Kristamorte from Illinois. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I, I just to very briefly address Mr. Grossman. I, I, I take you at, you know, as being serious about wanting to improve efficiency in government and so forth.
I think the issue is when you fire or give a pink slip to 200,000 probationary workers at one time, regardless of their efficiency, I think that's where there's a serious concern that's raised. But I want to just address one other issue, Mr. Comer, and that's the US Postal Service.
On December 14th, 2024, the Washington Post reported that the Trump administration was considering at that time a move to privatize the Postal Service and push thousands of federal service employees out of their jobs in favor of a broad privatization of the agency's essential services. Then just last week on February 20th, the Washington Post stated that the administration is preparing to quote, dissolve the leadership of the USPS and absorb the independent mail
agency into his administration. As you know, the Commerce Department potentially throwing trillions of dollars of e-commerce transactions into turmoil. These reports are beyond troubling and I respectfully request that you have a hearing again on the USPS. You had a very good hearing the other day where we're we were able to grill Mr. Dejoy and I learned a lot. I think a lot of our members on both sides learned a lot. I think we need to have a hearing on this particular
issue. As you know, the USPS is the foundation of our $1.92 trillion mailing industry, LED courageously by numerous veterans letter carriers who deliver 44% of the world's mail. More importantly, no private sector entity provides universal service across the nation, and without these letter carriers and others, more than 51.5 million households and businesses, especially in rural communities, Mr. Chairman, would have no guaranteed delivery.
As a member of this panel tasked with oversight of the federal government activities, including the USPSI believe it's essential, it's imperative that we have this hearing. Sir, I know that you and the and the Ranking Member care deeply about the USPS and what the administration is proposing to do with the USPS, in my opinion, is illegal. It is against the framework of the USPS and we need to look into it. I yield back.
Gentleman yields back before I recognize Miss Green from from Georgia I'll just responded when we see a proposal something we will have something either a briefing or a committee hearing or subcommittee hearing or or something I'm interested as well to see what you mentioned potentially throw it into turmoil. Some would argue the Postal Service is already in turmoil right now with the the the delays in certain mail sorting facilities.
So I agree with what you said. I know you're sincere and I think Ranking Member Connelly and I have demonstrated we, we want to support the Postal Service. And so when we find out more, we'll we'll do something immediately, have a briefing or a or a subcommittee hearing or full committee hearing. OK, Chair, recognize Miss Green from Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Democrat colleagues across the aisle are complaining and pitching tantrums over Elon Musk and his Dodge teams cutting waste, fraud and abuse from the executive branch and the federal government. Claiming this is unconstitutional is an outright lie. Article 2 of the Constitution clearly states that the executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. President Trump exercised that power by appointing Mr. Elon Musk as a special government
employee. The President, via executive order, created the US Dodge Service within the former US Digital Service to implement the President's Dodge agenda by modernizing federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity. Dodge has been brought in exactly like the US Digital Service during President Obama's tenure. This is not unconstitutional. 72% of Americans. This is on both sides of the aisles. You guys, these are people in your district.
These are people in my district. Agree that we need to cut the ridiculous amount of waste, fraud and abuse because Americans, all of us together are $36 trillion in debt, $36 trillion in debt is what should be unconstitutional. Not doing everything we can to save the American people. They're hard earned tax dollars. You can protest all you want outside of departments of this government. You can protest all you want, but the American people disagree with you. You're protecting the
bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is not a business. Those are not real jobs producing federal revenue by the way. They're consuming taxpayer dollars. Those jobs are paid for by the American tax. People who work real jobs, earn real income, pay federal taxes, and then pay these federal employees. Federal employees do not deserve their jobs. Federal employees not do not deserve their paychecks. And these are jobs that can be fired at will.
But you want to know why the American people can't pay for it anymore? We cannot afford it, $36 trillion in debt. If you want to make that your platform, your hill to die on, go ahead. Because 72% of Americans agree with DOGE, agree with cutting the waste, fraud and abuse, and agree with what this committee is supposed to be about oversight. So continue, continue your temper tantrums. I would love to win the midterms.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back. Title A yields back chair guys, Mr. Frost from Florida. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate it. You know, in the in the mission statement that you've put out for this committee, it says it's ensure that the economy, efficiency, effectiveness and accountability of the federal government, which I think we all agree on. We all want to combat waste fodder and abuse. But The thing is that y'all are
all looking in the wrong places. You want to talk about making cuts to things like Medicaid, which by the way, over 35% of all the children in this country are covered under Medicaid. Over 100,000 people in my district are covered under Medicaid. People like the grifter in chief, Trump and President Musk are openly using their public offices to enrich themselves to the tune of billions of dollars.
So if we want to look at waste, fraud and abuse, which I'm down to do, why is there complete silence on the other side of the aisle about looking at the complete grifter that the is the president of the United States and the richest man on the earth, which is looking into things like. Social. Security and. Different things like that. Why don't we investigate out of order the real? Corruption. Hold off, hold off. Point of order. Time. Point of.
Order, Mr. Chairman, Hold off, hold off, hold off. There was a point of order when you said something. Who? Who, who asked for it? Mr. Higgins. I can refer to Elon Musk as the president. I don't think the First Amendment has been suspended in this committee yet. Yeah, y'all were fine with with. Suspend for a second. Just a. Few weeks ago. But before Mr. Frost. Mr. Frost, right? After being elected President of the United States. Mr. Frost, before we proceed on. All of this, Mr. Chairman.
You like to hold on. I'm the, I'm the chairman. I'm recognize, Miss Frost, and we'll recognize recognize you. Would you like to revise your remark with respect to improperly identifying the President of the United States? I'll say President Musk and grifter and Chief Trump. Hey, Mr. Mr. Chairman, point of order. If I wanted to challenge someone to a. Fight they would know it thank you there's. There's an extra fundraising video for her.
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, I don't believe that Mister Musk is protected by the rules of the House or the Committee and and and. No, we're, we're looking at the disparaging the president now. But I don't believe Mr. Frost disparage the president. I believe he disparage Mr. Musk. Well, he did disparage. Mr. Chairman, if Mr. Musk actually team here, then maybe the. Rule all right. I heard no disparagement. I'll say something else. We'll save a lot of.
Time I'll say something else. OK, All right. We're going to let Chair recognize Mr. Frost. You still have 349. You're going to maybe revise the the disparaging comment about the president because that's supposed to be our decorum here. And. It is supposed to be President Musk and the President of the United States, Donald Trump, who is engaged in grifting of the American people often use their public offices to enrich
themselves. Someone on the other side was just asking how would you feel if you called someone else from? Hold off, Hold off, Rich Frost, hold off. There's a, There's a pending motion for disparaging the president. The, the so the motion was words taken down about disparaging the president.
And the chair finds the words for the gentleman from Florida are not parliamentary because they constitute personalities toward the president, which if you sit in the House floor, that's always uttered by the presiding officer on the House floor, you cannot disparage the president. I'd say so. Mr. Chairman, would you please read back to us the words that were disparaging because I didn't hear them if. You're willing to request unanimous consent to withdraw the disparaging president?
The comments about President Trump, I guess you can disparage Elon Musk if you want. I will withdraw Drifter in Chief, and I will. I will say the president's grifting because you spent the last two years like president word you can say, I can say that Trump is drifting. What I will withdraw is calling him drifter in chief. That is what I would. Share sustains the point of order, and the words in question are ordered stricken from the
transcript of this proceeding. So the member is barred from further participation. I, I, I challenge the ruling of the chair. Challenge the ruling of the chair. I moved. To table move the OK, we have a motion to challenge rule in the chair. And then Mr. Gosar made a motion to table the second Conley Conley's motion. So there's a motion and 2nd to table Mr. Conley's motion. The motion is not debatable. As many as are in favor of tabling signify by saying aye, aye.
All those opposed signify by saying no, no in the opinion. Mr. Chairman, I ask for a recorded. Vote A recorded vote is ordered. The clerk will call the roll. Mr. Jordan? Mr. Jordan votes yes. Mr. Turner. Mr. Gosar. Mr. Gosar votes yes. Miss Fox. Mr. Grossman. Mr. Grossman votes yes. Mr. Cloud. Mr. Cloud votes yes. Mr. Palmer. Mr. Palmer votes aye. Mr. Higgins. Mr. Higgins votes yes. Mr. Sessions. Mr. Sessions votes aye. Mr. Biggs. Mr. Biggs votes aye.
Miss Mace. Miss Mace votes aye, Mr. Fallon. Aye. Mr. Fallon votes aye. Mr. Donalds. Mr. Perry. Mr. Perry votes aye. Mr. Timmons. Mr. Timmons votes aye. Mr. Burchett. Miss Green. Miss Green votes aye. Miss Bobert. Miss Bobert votes aye. Miss Luna. Mr. Langworthy. Mr. Burleson. Mr. Burleson votes aye. Mr. Crane. Mr. Crane Votes aye. Mister Jack. Aye. Mister Jack votes aye, Mr. McGuire. Mr. McGuire votes yes, Mr. Gill. Mr. Gill votes aye, Mr. Connolly. Nay.
Mr. Connolly votes nay, Miss Norton. No. Miss Norton votes no, Mr. Lynch. No. Mr. Lynch votes no. Mr. Krishnamoorthy no. Mr. Krishnamoorthy votes no, Mr. Khanna. No. Mr. Khanna votes no, Mr. Mfume. No. Mr. Mfume Votes no Miss Brown, No Miss Brown. Votes no, Miss Dansbury. Absolutely not. Miss Dansbury votes no. Mr. Garcia. Mr. Garcia votes no Mr. Frost No Mr. Frost votes no. Miss Lee. Miss Lee votes no. Mr. Kasar. Miss Crockett. Insulting people's. Appearance as well as trying to
fight them isn't a problem. Point of order, it's a yes. Or no, we're so. Sad, but for those, no. That our order. Yes or not. Just skip our. Skip our. Skip our here, skip our. Go to the next one, go to the next the MSNBC anchor, go to the next one. Don't count that. Go to the. Next one, Miss Randall votes no. Mr. Subramanyam. Wait. Mr. Subramanyam votes no, miss.
And sorry, Mr. Bell. Mr. Bell votes no. Miss Simon. Miss Simon votes no. Mr. Min No. Mr. Min votes no. Miss Presley. Miss Talib? Nope. Miss Talib votes no. Mr. Chairman. Yes. Mr. Chairman, votes yes. Mr. Chairman, how is Miss Crockett recorded? Let's let's let's try this one more time. How is Miss Crockett voted? Miss Crockett is not yet recorded. No all. Right. I thank my colleague. Miss Crockett votes no. Mr. Chairman, how is Mr. Kesar recorded?
Mr. Kasar is not recorded. Mr. Kasar votes no. Mr. Chairman, on this vote the ayes are 20. The nays are 19. Aye, the the motion to table passes. I now recognize Mr. McGuire. I want to say it's despicable that this committee is going to silence me for bringing the Ross. Mr. Frost. Mr. Frost. Speak for the rest of the hearing. Making millions of. Dollars. Mr. Frost, Mr. Ranking Member, I'm going to have the Sergeant armed remove him if he doesn't refrain.
All right. Chair recognizes Mr. McGuire. Mr. Chairman, parliamentary inquiry, parliamentary inquiry. Mr. McGuire. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I'd. Like to. Hey, thank you so much for listening today. I really do appreciate your support. If you could take a second and hit the subscribe or the follow button on whatever podcast platform that you're listening on right now, I greatly appreciate it. It helps out the show tremendously and you'll never
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