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People. Welcome the elan Ink, Bloomberg's weekly podcast about Elon Musk. It's Tuesday, May seven. I'm your host, David Popadopolis. Today, well into a mystery what happened to Tesla's one so lofty supercharging plans and what does it mean for the rest of America's auto industry. And then we're going to get into the next stage of Elon's free speech plan for x reinstating Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist who's been
banned from basically every social media platform. To go over all of this and then some we're joined by our usual superstar panel, Elon reporter Danahull. Hello, Dana Good, Afternoon and BusinessWeek Senior writer and editor Max Chafkin. Hey, David, Okay, So to be clear here, I know I said it's Tuesday, May seventh, but we're actually recording this a day earlier than normal on Monday. Because this is a special week
for us. Elon Inc. Is hitting the road. We'll be hosting a live taping on Thursday at the Bloomberg Tech Summit in San Francisco. Join us there. Links will be in the show, notesh. Well, let's get this started and talk about how Elon has done away with most or all of the Supercharger team. We touched briefly on this last week, but the details keep coming out.
Yeah. So Elon Musk is reorganizing Tesla and kind of really reshaping the company to focus more on AI and autonomy, and as part of the layoffs that he has been doing for several weeks now, he completely disbanded the Supercharging team that reported up to Rebecca Tanucci, who is one of the top female executives at the company. Tesla watchers will remember that she was one of the speakers at the investor day last year, and it was really surprising
because Supercharging it's like this awesome product. I mean, I think I've even called it Tesla's shrewdest product. And it kind of comes at a time when all these other automakers like Ford and Rivian and GM had like signed on to adopt the Tesla charging network as their own, and all of this injured raation work was underway before the summer driving season, so a lot of it is very puzzling. If you believe in the idea that EV adoption is slowing and that sales are slowing, it makes
sense to kind of throttle back your expansion plans. But it does not make sense to fire all five hundred people who worked on that team, because now who does GM call who? Like, all the people that were facilitating these partnerships with other automakers are now gone.
So then you know, the Tesla charging network is indeed very different than the charging networks that these other EV makers have they refer to as super charging stations. What makes exactly their stations different and better than those controlled by their rivals?
So I think the thing to really think about is Tesla doesn't just make cars. They really own the fueling infrastructure that is important for electric vehicle adoption, and they very early On knew that the key to getting people to drive electric vehicles was to make charging easy and seamless, and over a decade ago they started building their own stations,
and Elon Musk called them superchargers. And at first there were like six of them in California, and so you could drive from San Francisco to La or San Francisco to like Tahoe. Now they are all over the world. They are in China, they are all over the United States, they are all over Europe, and they are really easy to use, and they are often located off of highways near a place where you can stop and go get
a cup of coffee. I mean, the one in Kettleman City, which is on the way to La is like this amazing spot. It's open twenty four hours. There's coffee there, you can get a latte, you can buy Tesla merchandise. And the supercharging network has always been seen as Tesla's value add because Tesla is not just selling you a car, they also are basically owning and creating this fueling infrastructure.
But now what's happened is that Musk is trying to cut twenty percent of his staff, and he cut this entire team, and you know, the superchargers still exists, but there are just a lot of questions as to who's going to maintain them, and like what his whole strategy here is. My understanding is that the business unit was
close to being profitable. But maybe if you're reconfiguring your whole company to be about autonomy and the RBOTAXI, maybe you don't need to build as many as you had originally planned.
Yeah, so if the business was close to being profitable, max I would have to have imagined that this is the kind of thing you have a dominant position in that space, in the charging space, and for years, as more and more automakers go into evs, like this could have been a thing that just threw off cash for decades to come.
Now you would think, I mean building these superchargers and on a big scale and expanding the number that they have currently. That's also capitally intensive, and clearly like Elon Musk has as other areas where he wants to spend
that money. He wants to spend that money buying you know Nvidia, you know H one hundred's these like GPU chips to train these AI models, AI models For what I mean assumably for the Robotaxi, right, I should say the aspirational Robotaxi, because there is no Robotaxi yet, you know,
is going to use enormous resources. And Elon Musk, as Dana saying, has been trying to reorient the company towards that Tesla before when they were trying to come up with this twenty five thousand dollars car or moving more aggressively to other models, Elon must really seemed to be betting on a lot more scale, right, like more superchargers, lots of cars, And it really does seem like over the last few months he's changed his thinking there right
where the company is not trying to drastically increase the number of evs out there in the short term, it's it wants to essentially, you know, get rid of the conventional car altogether. It's extremely you know, it's a bold bet, and it also seems like, like you said, like maybe it's a foolhardy decision to throw away or or put the brakes on what has been a really good part of the company.
But to get rid of the conventional car altogether. Do you still not need more charging stations or is the idea, Dana that I guess, if just a handful of robo taxis are driving us all around, we need a limited number of cars.
So I think you have to really look at sales and ed adoption. And you know, Tesla had a terrible first quarter. They had like forty six thousand more cars in inventory than they could sell, and so you don't need to keep building new superchargers if your sales are slowing. And Tesla has a lot of superchargers. As of the end of the first quarter, they had over six thousand supercharging stations and more than fifty seven thousand connectors worldwide,
so you don't really need to build more. And what Musk said was, you know, we're going to We're going to focus instead on optimizing our existing stations. That's all fine,
that makes sense to me. What does it makes sense is firing all the people who were overseeing relationships with other automotive partners, like for GM and Rivian, Because the whole idea was that, you know, Tesla's network is the dominant network in the United States, and like Tesla got all of this money from the Biden administration through this program called the Nevy program, where under the Inflation Reduction Act. If you opened up the network to other automakers, you
got federal funding. And so you know, Musk has never been one to kind of turn down the spigot of funding. So all of these nevy projects that were supposed to be built using federal funds, I don't know where that stands, And frankly, I don't think anyone else does either, because all the people that oversaw the contracts are now gone.
Yeah, and Max, That's one of the things that jumps out at me a little bit here is when you're a small startup or a startup of any sort, like Kessel was for a while, you know, you can blow stuff up all the time and shut down departments and start other things, and you know that the broader ripples across the account of me and across the broader industry are small. I wonder if right now it's almost a little bit like Tesla and Elon aren't realizing their own
strength and might and power in this space. Is that they don't realize their strength or might or power. Are they just simply don't care?
I mean, it's very hard to disentangle like Elon Musk's strategy in terms of like the business strategy of the business case for slowing down superchargers or firing the team, and then the management style, which is to these like grand gestures in which you know, you fire entire teams
to prove a point. And my guess is it's it's probably a little bit of both, right, Like, there's been some reporting suggesting that the person who's running that team was hesitant to like cuts as deeply as Elon Musk wants. Elon Musk is trying to make this point that the company has to be extremely hardcore. I suppose what.
Better way to show that then to just set that person in the entire team.
Seems it seems crazy from the outside, and I'm sure if you're sitting, you know, in Detroit and you've been counting on these superchargers, it seems crazy as well. It does conceivably, I think, hurt other EV makers to have Tesla slow this down, because of course, this Tesla supercharger network was going to be an asset to the entire industry, and people who are buying a Hondai or a Kia or a Ford or whatever, we're also going to benefit
from these networks. You could see a situation where Elon Musk feels like, do I really want to be paying to build this massive infrastructure that is going to also be used by my competitors. Maybe I have this sort of modestly profitable thing, but like it doesn't serve the big goal, which is to be worth you know, to trillions of dollars and do all the crazy ambitious stuff that he wants to do.
Did they not hire anyone back? I thought they were hiring people back or no.
There's rumors that they could hire people back. I mean, Elon Musk has changed his mind before. I'm reminded of like in twenty nineteen, he like announced that they were closed all the stores, and then once he realized like, oh, actually we have like long term leases with all of these shopping malls, he like kind of did in about face, and they like they like recance it. So I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to hire some
people back. And I mean, to be clear, you know, there are still people that are going to like service the existing superchargers.
You know.
I recently Max was trying to drive from Miami South to Key West. My wife and I we were trying to rent to Tesla Avis had no Teslas for us. They gave us another EV, some fancy pants Mercedes EV. We said, okay, fine, it was not fully charged. When they gave it to us, Dan, we said, fine, I had forty seven miles. Like whatever, we'll find a charging station. We went by a zillion Tesla charging stations we had no access to, and then very quickly found ourselves down
to just a handful of miles left. And at that point we got to this charging station, there was nowhere else to go. We wound up waiting in a Walmart parking lot across by the way the road from a Murphy USA gas station where cars were just zipping in, filling up, zipping out. It took us four hours to charge. Wow, that sounds like a great It was awesome. It was awesome. And the thing that jumped out at me, though Dana, was it wasn't just idiot tourists like us stuck in
this position. And I do emphasize idiot tourists. They were also queuing up in the line behind us, waiting a half an hour, an hour, getting frustrated and driving off. There were also actual EV owners of Hyundai's and volkswagons.
Well, right, And that's why Tesla has had such an incredible advantage because the superchargers work, and like, if you have the Tesla app on your phone, you can see where the nearest supercharger is and how many stalls are open, and like you get like very real data on like what your charging time is, and like whenever I've rented a Tesla, I've used the superchargers, I've never had like
one problem with them. So that's why, like Tesla had such an advantage, and they really built like the best team in the industry, Like all of these people are like top flight talent. So now the market is flooded with like five hundred people and every other charging network is going to try to stap them up and learn from their expertise. But that's what's so amazing. No one
was able to replicate what Tesla did. And Tesla also has all this data about like where you charge, which ones are the most used, Like they have just a ton of information about electricity pricing and real time pricing and how much the average person charges. So I think the fact that Tesla is really throttling back what was this clear advantage at this pivotal time when EV adoption has very much slowed. It's like cause ripple effects throughout the entire industry. And if you go on LinkedIn, oh
my god, there's like this uproar. Like everyone in the charging business is like trying to figure out what's.
Going on, right, and they don't exactly know. But as far as we understand the deal that willow them and their cars to charge at these Tesla supercharging stations, it is not dead, correct, It is not dead.
I mean I have not heard of any automakers backing out of the deal. I just think that how the onboarding and the integration and the billing all works is just up in the air because all of the people who oversaw those details are now gone.
And it just feels like one of the ways in which these companies have not quite figured out how people are going to use evs and and how they're going to convince the kind of person who's watching, like you said, watching this giant line at a charging station on one side of the street and a gas station where dozens of cars amazing, it was amazing. It seems like it's
just not totally figured out yet. And that and that's a good reason if you're Elon Musk and you're you're worried about your spending, and you think that there's this amazing target called you know, AI that you should be aiming for. You could sort of understand why you would want to try to cut back.
The other person I want to quote here, while I waited in line forever at the charging station, was somebody, after they had finally finished charging and was clearly exhausted by the experience, has turned to me and said, is America ready for this? I think the answer, at least right now is looking like no. Okay, We're now going to talk about X and Elon's reinstatement of Nick Fuentes.
And to help us do that, we've got Kurt Wagner, who covers X for us here at Bloomberg and is the author of the book The Battle for the Bird about Elon's takeover of Twitter.
Welcome, Kurt, thank you for having me.
Okay, So, Kurt, I think it was on Friday Elon has reinstated. He made the decision to reinstate Nick Fuentes. Tell us to get this started, who exactly is Nickquente's.
Yeah, Nick Fuentes is I believe about twenty five years old. He's labeled a white supremacist, anti Semite. He's basically a far right sort of media personality. He's got his own talk show and he has a conference, and he shows up sort of in the far right circles of you know, folks who support basically Donald Trump, and then sort of came to light during Donald Trump's presidency, and so a few years ago he was banned from what was then Twitter permanently.
This is by the previous the pre Musk team.
That's right, this is you know, Twitter one point zero, if you want to call that, and had still been banned on what is now x up until obviously just a couple of days ago, even though Elon has brought back several other people, but he is now back. He went on a Twitter spaces over the weekend with it was quite the crew. I believe Alex Jones was there, Andrew Tait was there, Mario knopfol who's sort of like a you know, Elon I don't know fan, I guess, and.
He's like the Larry King of this word.
Yeahs of journalist.
I just check him before he hopped on. I believe that it's up to one point eight million viewers. Or listens for that spaces. So this crew, many of whom were suspended or banned on X until you know, Elon took over, now has quite the quite the audience.
That's one of the things I was going to ask you, Kurt, So, how many exactly controversial people has Elon reinstated since taking the company over a couple of years ago.
Yeah, I don't have the full number, but I did jot down a few examples because it's an interesting list. There's the obvious, you know, President Trump, right is the most high profile.
Well, President Trump, ex President Trump. He has been reinstated, but he has turned X down right, he has not come back.
Actually, yeah, I believe he's only posted one time. He posted his mug shot you may remember, and used it to try and thunderraise. So president, you know, ex President Trump is the most high profile. But Nick Fuentes is one we were talking about. Alex Jones is obviously a very you know, notorious far right personality that's been brought back. Andrew Tait is another. There was a guy Ali Alexander who you know, helped organize the Stop the Steal campaign.
He was brought back and I think he was actually re suspended. I think Fuentes might have been as well. I think he and Ali Alexander were brought back in the very early days of Elon's takeover and then almost immediately suspended again, and now Fuentes is now getting to come back again for a second time under Elon.
So Max, what were you said, Where does FA's rank in terms of extreme on the extremists scale among those rehabilitated, He's pretty far.
On the far end of the extreme scale. You know, after the election of President Trump, you had a lot of the kind of quote unquote remember that the term alt right. Those were the kind of online supporters of Trump and Trump is a lot of them kind of backed away from the movement or were banned or faded away, or sort of embraced the fact that they were in power, and you had this kind of new wave of even further right personalities, of which Pointe is probably like the
most prominent example. The main target of his ire, besides you know, blacks and Jews and minorities of any kind and gay people, is the Republican Party and the right right. It's like going after the mainstream for not being you know, pro American, pro white whatever. Enough and you know, we talked about this, and others have talked about this. One of the difficulties of operating social network is like where
do you draw the line? And even if you're a free speech absolutist, there are going to be part kinds of speech that are going to kind of mess up your network. And Musk two has kind of struggled with this.
He banned them, he unbanned him, and I guess Kurt to a certain extent in his post rehabilitating him again, you know, he kind of tries to sort of caveat it a bit. The post said very well, he nick flant, this will be reinstated provided he does not violate the law and let him be crushed by the comments and community notes.
Yeah, this sort of aligns with what Elon has said in a few different situations. You know, sunlight is the best disinfectant kind of thing, right, And his point here is like, instead of letting these terrible viewpoints kind of fester away hidden, let's let them out in the open and everyone can see how terrible they are.
And is that working?
Kurt Wagner, I don't think that's sort of ever worked, right, especially the way social media works. The people who have the most extreme viewpoints often find their communities, and people get empowered by that, they get radicalized by that, they get excited about it. And the fact that this space yesterday with that crew I mentioned, got one point eight million viewers sort of tells the story, right.
It's a big group of people in terms of numbers, but as a percentage of the population and so on, it's small. And like that's kind of the problem, is that like this this belief system, the will you know, white supremacy, or in the case of Alex Jones, it's you know, conspiracy theorizing like it is not and never is going to be a mainstream anything. And so so the more time Elon Musk spends it clearly seems like this is taking up a huge part of his you know,
mind space. It almost looked looking at his X page, it almost seemed like he was sort of badgered into doing this, or you know, there were a lot of replies from from Fuentes's you know, allies and so on, suggesting that he do this.
It just it's like it's like he's he's off in a.
Corner that is he's going to making me, you know, far right very happy, and meanwhile, like X itself continues to sort of go sideways. Right, this is not going to address any of the big problems that that X has.
Yeah, Dan, to that point, there is a sort of or seems to be something of a spur of the moment, not necessarily super well thought out element to this decision, a little bit of like, I guess this is the way Elon always rolled at Tesla when he was tweeting there, Right, it's not necessarily all been properly vetted and such.
Yeah, I mean, I think Elon makes impulsive decisions, and you know, the fanboys are like, oh, he's playing four D chess or five D chess, and it's like, no, he's just like, you know, he's just like whatever, He's just impulsive. He's tweeting, he's on his plane, like he's just following his gut. And I don't think that we
should read too much into it. I mean, I think that fundamentally he wants X to be, you know, like the water cooler, and and he wants engagement, and like, you know, everyone who covers social media knows that like, anger drives a lot of engagement. So even if you think that Nick Fuentes is like a horrible person. You still click on the tweets or read the tweets or quote tweet the tweets to show how awful they are, and that's still driving engagement. So I think that that's
a big that's a big part of it. I mean, he is courting the right but also just really trying to drive up his numbers. And Kurt, I don't even know what metric he's using now. Is it like unregrettable user minutes? Is it He's like making up all these new metrics.
Whoah, well, what is that unregretted user minute? Oh and so and vise a v regretted? Like what is that? How does that work?
That's sort of the thing one no one really knows, like what is an unregrettable user minute? It's not a metric that I've ever heard, you know, I've covered social networks for ten years, many that have failed along the way. I've never heard that statistic before. But that's sort of the idea, right, And I guess I would echo just
really quickly what Dana said about the impulsiveness. You know, when when Elon first took over Twitter and book plug here I cover this in the book, but like he shows up and the battle for the Bird about the Twitter takeover, and when he shows up, there were employees who were really excited to work with like this visionary, right, this guy that they thought was going to, you know, fix everything, and were shocked to find out how frequently it seemed like he was just flying by the seat
of his pants and sort of making these decisions on a whim. And so I think it's very possible that the Fuentes reinstatement falls into that same bucket.
Not good for the business.
So obviously, if you're trying to lure back mainstream advertisers, probably not so good. And CEO Linda Yakarino is probably not loving that. But Kurt as Dana was just saying he has the rehabilitation of Nick quent This has given the thing, you know, a jolt of I think customer engagement. I guess that Twitter spaces that x space has had. You were saying like one point seven million people tuned in. Is that not monetizable some way somehow, well.
Just monetizable, but not all traffic is created equal, right, Like it's number one, who who are you reaching? And number two? What is the I think Twitter's case, what is the risk of reaching those people?
Right?
And so if you're an advertiser going to X, you have to say, Okay, maybe there is an audience here.
That would be great to reach, but at what cost? Right? The cost is that.
You're doing business with Elon who is openly, you know, supporting in platforming a white supremacist or several white supremacists, right, And so the trade off for a lot of brands, I think is that, well, yeah, sure there are people there we'd like to reach, but they're not worth reaching if it means, you know, we have to associate with
what X has sort of become. And I think that is the bigger issue, is that there's a lot of discomfort around what Elon has become, what Elon is starting to represent, and what they would sort of be labeling themselves as as advertisers on that platform.
And this is not like news to anyone who follows media industry, but you know, it's dangerous for advertisers in two ways. One is that you know, someone sees a ad for like Campbell soup next to a Nick Fuents, you know, racist meme or something, and that's embarrassing to the advertiser. The other is that advertisers, you know, care a lot about who they're reaching, right, and they want
they want like C suite executives. They want people with influence, with huge amounts of disposable income, with with long term plans to spend that money. Nick Fuentas is a self described in cell he is you know, I mean like he is he so sorry, that's an involuntary celibate. That's that's somebody. It's it's a sort of subset of the men's rights movement.
When you look at like.
Who his audience is, it is like the opposite of what a normal corporate advertiser wants. Like it's it's just completely, if not counterproductive, it's very close to it. And and to the extent that Elon Musk is talking is using the name Nick Fuents responding to people talking about Nick Foents.
It's bad, right. It may be engagement, but it's not the kind of engagement they want. It's the opposite of the convenation that they want.
I found it interesting to these sort of like, hey, we may lose advertisers over this isn't isn't going to be good for business? To me, it's almost cover at this point, right, Like they're already losing advertisers.
It's already a.
You can't once you get this zero, I guess it's hard to go like you know.
Yeah, now he has something to point to, right, he can say, well, business is bad because I'm supporting free speech over here, and it's like, well, business was kind of already bad, but this might just be you know, an added example.
Okay, So Kurt, there was other news over the weekend, which is that Jack Dorsey, formerly the head of X Twitter at the time, has he's left the Blue Sky board and he's now praising X again. Remind us again what exactly Blue Sky was, and how do we interpret all of this?
Sure, yeah, Blue Sky it's a little bit tough to understand. But the simplest explanation is it's a social network that looks and feels very much like Twitter, but it is you know, decentralized. So this idea that it is not owned by any single company or any single investor in theory would never like go out of business so long as you know, someone's pain to keep the servers running.
And the idea started while Jack Dorsey was still at Twitter as a way to sort of create a you know, solution to the fact that these companies are beholden to you know, investors, or they're beholden to advertisers or all these things where they have to make a business decision that you know, means they might have to kick someone like Nick Foyintes off the platform.
That kind of stuff bothered Jack Dorsey.
So he said, hey, let's create a different network that doesn't have any owner, that has none of these pressures around Wall Street. It's not publicly traded, and you know, that can be sort of the solution to all this stuff. And he funded it while he was at Twitter. He joined the board after he left Twitter, and now he is sort of, as far as I can tell, like abandoning this this idea, at least this version of this idea, and has started to I saw him post it on X quite a bit over the weekend.
Matt Max, you seem to have a theory.
Yeah, well, I mean it just it's like there were all these ideas about sort of what who's going to take the mantle after you know, Elon Musk, when Elon Musk was firing you know, eighty percent of his.
Staff at Twitter.
At Twitter now X and doing all these things that seemed somewhat destructive to the brand, like letting, letting the likes of Nick foante Son, and you know, it just seems like Twitter, even even a reduced Twitter, even a Twitter that is somewhat has been somewhat taken over by crypto schillers or you know, weird you know, alt right types or whatever, it's still Twitter. And maybe Jack Doorsey,
just like the rest of us, he just can't. He just can't get off of it, even if he knows, he knows in his heart that there was there's a better thing out there, It's just it has a pull on him.
We're going to go into our final segment, Max, We're going to have you break down and analyze critically some advice that Elon had for jk Rowling, the author of Harry Potter Max Well.
Jk Rowling, as many people know, in addition to being the best selling author of Harry Potter and a bunch of Harry Potter spin offs, has for some time now been on something of a kind of anti woke kick has posted many, many posts about what she sees as sort of overreached by in terms of trans rights, and many people feel like she's expressed, you know, bigoted, anti trans statements. She's been sort of fighting this battle on social media for some time, and more or less out of nowhere.
Elon Musk replied to.
One of her tweets it was like a month old tweet, suggesting that she might want to try posting sort of more positive content.
The ekes was from Elon was, while I heartily agree with your points regarding sex and gender, may I suggest also posting interesting and positive content on other matters.
It's weird how a guy who like just types mostly memes and like one word things will then suddenly string a sentence that almost seems like it was written by you know, chat GPT or something. But anyway, as you can imagine David, when I saw this, I had one thought, which was feud.
God, Danna. He can't he can't help himself. He sees this guy sees feuds everywhere. Dana is this if he's going to take this into feud territory? Are you okay with that?
I'm okay with it. I just think it's so funny that like Musk is now the tone plus, like mister free speech is tone policing. JK Rowlings. This was Grock doing his why why why? And is he trying to steal thunder from the bigger beef of the weekend, which, let's face it is really Drake and Hendrick and Molamar. That was the beef that everyone on the internet was paying attention to.
But Max, we stole the mic from you, so we're gonna give it back.
You were saying, as I said, this is you know, I'd say it's a very delicate form of criticism, but as Danna says, coming from Elon Musket, you know, kind of crazy for a guy who ekes is you know, seven thousand times, a guy who had mostly about culture war stuff, for a guy who the SEC had signed a Twitter sitter two to that supposedly every single eks he made. So yeah, also okay, So so JK. Rowling
did sort of respond. The following day, she did another post with a profile of hers and it said something like, some people have suggested I need to post more positive material through you. This is not a response to that, but everyone who's watching knows. Of course, shots fired, basically going straight to a Drake Kendrick situation, and then Elon quickly de escalated. He actually then posted later something to
the effect of JK Rowling is awesome. It seems like he realized all of a sudden he was not ready to you know, beef with the world famous best selling author Harry Potter.
No, I see, so it's not a feud.
It was a feud.
Well on my power ranking, which I maintain it is. It is at number ten, so it's at the very bottom of the power ranking.
Climbing up the leaderboard.
But I'm keeping it.
Yeah, I'm keeping it on there because you just never know where these things are going to go.
Kirk to wrap up here is this, Do we think this is a bit of a window into the new elon on X that periodically he's going to want to try to play the hey, let's moderate tone guy, or no, this is just some random one off.
I think it's a random one off.
I mean this is all coming within what twenty four hours of him, you know, bringing back a pretty well known white supremacist, right, So it's like he can't really be the guy who's setting the tone on Twitter and telling people to clean up their act and you know, hey, let's be a little more positive and then at the same time like bring back the guy who you know is all about white Christianity and think that those things are going to be fine.
So I just I don't know.
I don't really see this as anymore than just maybe someone sent it, someone maybe tagged him. He came across it randomly and chimed in and moved on with his day, and he.
Was in a particularly mellow.
Mood at the time.
Jeez, there's a lot of controversial content on this platform. It does feel like he it's a attempt to correct, right, It's like, my guess is like he spent a lot of time, you know, letting this white supremacist on the platform, and maybe is trying to do something to not at the fact that, you know, there are other kinds of content beyond controversial content and when especially, it would.
Be much better if JK.
Rowling was talking about wizards all day on Twitter rather than you know, beefing with the left.
Very good. So, listeners, you heard that Max mentioned a power ranking. Yes, it's true. He is now compiling. He spends hours and hours and hours a week compiling, pouring over his feud power rankings. We are not ready to release them to America yet, but they are coming soon. So you will have to stay tuned for that, Max, Dana, Kurt, thanks for joining.
Me, Thank you, thank you, thanks for having me.
Always a pleasure, great to be here.
This episode was produced by Stacey Wong. Naomi Shaven and Rayhan Harmanci are senior editors. The idea for this very show also came from Rayhan. Blake Maples handles engineering, and we get special editing assistants from Jeff Grocott our supervising producers Magnus Hendrickson. The Elon theme is written and performed by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Brendan Francis Newnham is our executive producer, and Sage Bauman is the head of
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