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Education Technology Society

Neil Selwynsoundcloud.com

Casting a critical eye over the world of digital education, education futures and EdTech.

 

Join Neil Selwyn as he talks to experts from around the world committed to new ways of thinking about digital technology and education

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Schools, datafication and the rise of EdTech ‘intermediaries’

Schools are increasingly reliant on data infrastructures and platforms – leading to the growing significance of various ‘intermediary actors’ now playing key roles in the governance of digital education. Sigrid Hartong (Helmut-Schmidt-University Hamburg) joins us to talk about this fast changing aspect of ed-tech. Accompanying reference >>> Hartong, S., Geiss, M. & Röhl, T. (2024). Intermediaries and the digital transformation of schooling: an introduction . Research in Education 12...

Jun 10, 202520 minSeason 2Ep. 16

Digital disinformation in the age of AI … what can schools do?

The growth of deliberately misleading and false information is one of the big concerns of the 2020s. Professor Olof Sundin (Lund University) has been researching students’ (dis)information literacy since the early 2000s. He joins us to talk about the latest developments in this area – particularly the trend of now using AI to both produce *and* retrieve information. Accompanying reference >>> Haider, J. & Sundin, O. (2022). Paradoxes of media and information literacy: The crisis of ...

May 26, 202519 minSeason 2Ep. 15

AI and the digital future(s) of universities

Where are universities going with digitisation and AI, and how does this fit with the views of staff and students? Dr. Magda Pischetola (University of Copenhagen) talks about her recent research into university policymaking around GenAI, and a survey of university teachers’ desired digital futures. Accompanying reference >>> Driessens, O. & Pischetola, M. (2024). Danish university policies on generative AI: Problems, assumptions and sustainability blind spots . MedieKultur: 40 (76):...

May 12, 202518 minSeason 2Ep. 14

Korea is pushing AI into schools … where might this end up?

Last year the Korean government announced its substantial commitment to AI and schools, launching an ‘AI Digital Textbook’ policy that promises to establish AI-driven customised learning across the education system. We are joined by Dr. Jina Ro (Sungkyunkwan University) to make sense of Korea’s recent ed-tech turn, and the wider motivations for investing so heavily in the promise of AI transforming traditional schooling. Accompanying reference >>> Jina Ro (2025): Enforcing unwarranted o...

Apr 23, 202522 minSeason 2Ep. 13

Getting Google out of Danish schools?

2022 saw a flurry of reports that the Danish Data Protection Agency was ordering schools to stop using Google products over the tech firm’s misuse of students’ personal data. We talk to Emilie Mørch Groth (Aarhus University) to see what has happened since, what this controversy tells us about the digital dependency of the modern welfare state, and the complexities of pushing back against Big Tech corporations. Accompanying reference >>> Morgan Meaker (2022). A Danish city built Google i...

Apr 02, 202520 minSeason 2Ep. 12

The digital transformation of higher education … for better and for worse

On the face of it, digital technologies are now integral to university teaching and learning. But to what extent have things actually changed … and are these changes wholly positive? Cathrine Tømte (University of Agder) talks about the impacts of digitisation on Norwegian universities, and why teachers and students should perhaps be joining forces to push for radically different technologies. Accompanying reference >>> Rómulo Pinheiro, Cathrine Tømte, Linda Barman, Lise Degn & Lars ...

Mar 22, 202516 minSeason 2Ep. 11

The cruel optimism of EdTech

Platforms are now an almost ubiquitous feature of schools. We talk with Lucas Cone (University of Copenhagen) about his work around teachers’ everyday engagements with platforms – in particular the benefits of using affect theory to make sense of teachers’ affiliations and relationships with these clearly problematic technologies. Accompanying reference >>> Lucas Cone (2024) Subscribing school: digital platforms, affective attachments, and cruel optimism in a Danish public primary schoo...

Mar 07, 202523 minSeason 2Ep. 10

What is ‘critical’ in critical studies of edtech?

There is growing interest in critical studies of education and technology. But what does it mean to be ‘critical’ of edtech, and how can this work genuinely make a difference in the world? Felicitas Macgilchrist (Carl von Ossietzky Universität Oldenburg) talks about the need to look beyond claims of transformation and novelty, drawing attention to marginalised forms of edtech, and the power of rageful hope. Accompanying reference >>> Macgilchrist, F. (2021). What is ‘critical’ in critic...

Feb 09, 202515 minSeason 2Ep. 9

What do ed-tech policymakers want from academic research?

Academics are increasingly looking to make an impact on policymakers, but critical ed-tech research often seems to fall on deaf ears. In this episode Dr. Cristóbal Cobo – currently a senior ed-tech specialist at a major international organization – talks about the types of evidence that get most attention in policy circles, and some approaches that might help critical researchers get their messages through. Accompanying reference >>> Cristóbal Cobo (2019). "I Accept The Terms And Condit...

Jan 28, 202514 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Reading in the digital age

Digital books are now a common part of education, but concerns are growing around the problems of students reading on-screen. Marte Blikstad-Balas (University of Oslo) discusses the latest research around what it means to read on-screen as opposed to reading from ‘proper’ books, and why government bans on digital devices are not the best response. Accompanying reference >>> Jensen, R., Roe, A. & Blikstad-Balas, M. (2024). The smell of paper or the shine of a screen? Students’ readin...

Jan 11, 202515 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Australia thinks that it can ban young people from using social media … we have questions!

The Australian government has just announced that it will ban all young people under the age of 16 from using social media. Dr. Clare Southerton explains the background to this ‘ban’ and what it might mean for students and schools. Recommended reading >>> Lisa Given (2024). Australia’s social media ban for kids under 16 just became law. How it will work remains a mystery . The Conversation , 28th November....

Dec 09, 202417 minSeason 2Ep. 6

‘Nudging’ students to do the right thing

Digital technologies are now a key means of ‘nudging’ students (and teachers) to make better decisions. Mathias Decuypere (PHZH) talks about the coming together of behavioural economics thinking and digital education, and how critical ed-tech scholars should be looking for alternate ways of working with this concept of the ‘edunudge’. Accompanying reference >>> Mathias Decuypere & Sigrid Hartong (2023) Edunudge . Learning, Media and Technology , 48(1):138-152...

Dec 03, 202420 minSeason 2Ep. 5

The challenges of studying in the ‘platformised’ university

University life is now increasingly mediated by digital platforms. Joe Noteboom’s research looks at the everyday realities of studying through platforms, and how students’ dependence on these technologies can lead to a number of problems and vulnerabilities. Accompanying reference >>> Joe Noteboom (2024): The student as user: mapping student experiences of platformisation in higher education , Learning, Media and Technology , DOI: 10.1080/17439884.2024.2414055...

Nov 23, 202419 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Raising a generation of techno-skeptical students

Dan Krutka (University of North Texas) is on a mission to support students, teachers and parents to think critically and make informed decisions about the digital tech in their lives. Dan talks about the idea of the ‘Technoskepticism Iceberg’ as a framework to identify the technical, psychosocial and political dimensions of technology. Accompanying reference >>> Pleasants, J., Krutka, D., & Nichols, T. (2023). What relationships do we want with technology? Toward technoskepticism in...

Oct 29, 202419 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Students ‘cheating’ with Generative AI

Two years on from the initial panic around Chat GPT and student cheating we catch with Phill Dawson from Deakin’s ‘Centre for Research in Assessment and Digital Learning’. Phill reflects on what universities have got wrong in their responses to GenAI, and why this might be a good time to entirely rethink the notion of student assessment altogether. Accompanying reference >>> Bearman, M., Tai, J., Dawson, P., Boud, D., & Ajjawi, R. (2024). Developing evaluative judgement for a time o...

Oct 06, 202416 minSeason 2Ep. 2

What’s the problem with Google Classroom?

We talk with Sonia Livingstone (Digital Futures for Children, LSE) about the ways in which EdTech and data protection policies often fail to protect children’s rights at school. In particular we look at Google Classroom as an example of how policymakers, regulators and governments need to intervene more forcibly in the EdTech marketplace. Accompanying reference >>> Livingstone, S., Pothong, K., Atabey, A., Hooper, L., & Day, E. (2024). The Googlization of the classroom: Is the UK in...

Sep 12, 202419 minSeason 2Ep. 1

‘Digital natives’ … the concept that refuses to die

Pekka Mertala (University of Oulu) talks about a new exhaustive analysis of nearly 1900 articles that charts the evolving use of the ‘digital native’ concept in academic literature. We talk about the history of the idea of ‘digital natives’, why the persistence of the idea is damaging, and how we need to actively campaign against its future use. ** this is the final episode of Season One of ETS ... we will return in September! ** Accompanying reference >>> Mertala, P., López-Pernas, S.,...

Jun 10, 202418 minSeason 1Ep. 16

Emotion AI in education

Nathalie DiBerardino (Western University) discusses the growing take-up of emotion AI in schools – tech that claims to detect student attention, concentration, and even interest levels. What are the harms of relying on such tech in classrooms, and how might educators and students push back? Accompanying reference >>> DiBerardino, N. & Stark, L. (2023). (Anti)-Intentional Harms: The Conceptual Pitfalls of Emotion AI in Education . in Proceedings of the 2023 ACM Conference on Fairness...

May 14, 202417 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Banning mobile phones from schools

Jack Reed (University of Exeter) talks about the recent UK government push to ban mobile phones from schools in England. He fills us in on the motivations of UK politicians, why phone bans need to seen as a human rights issue, and the benefits of taking a postdigital approach to thinking about technology and education. Accompanying reference >>> Reed, J. & Dunn, C. (2024). Postdigital young people’s rights: a critical perspective on the UK government’s guidance to ban phones in Engl...

Apr 28, 202419 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Digital technologies in early childhood education

Antti Paakkari (Tampere University) talks about his research on digital technologies in Finnish early childhood centres – from digital portfolios to activity trackers. We discuss how these technologies are changing the dynamics between children, educators and parents, and leading to increased assessment of children despite the expectation that early childhood centres are assessment-free. Accompanying reference >>> Paakkari, A., Paananen, M., & Grieshaber, S. (2023). Activity-trackin...

Apr 15, 202419 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Digital technologies and the commercialism of education

Faith Boninger talks about how digital technologies are increasingly implicated in the commercialism of education. We talk about Faith’s involvement in the long-running NEPC reports on virtual high schools, the NEPC’s fight against personalised learning systems, and why tech companies have an insatiable urge to ‘fix’ education. Accompanying link >> The National Education Policy Centre at the University of Colorado...

Apr 02, 202415 minSeason 1Ep. 12

Is there a place for facial recognition technology in education?

Recent reports of facial recognition technology being developed for use in US classrooms has attracted widespread criticism. We talk to Charles Logan (Northwestern University) about the problems that facial recognition poses for students and educators. >>> Accompanying reference: Inside Higher Education (2024). Facial Recognition Heads to Class. Will Students Benefit? Feb 27th....

Mar 10, 202419 minSeason 1Ep. 11

The history of educational computing in Europe

Michael Geiss (Zurich University of Teacher Education) talks about a new edited book looking at how computers came into European schools from the 1960s to 1990s. We talk about the importance of ‘pioneer’ teachers in paving the way for EdTech markets to develop, why critical scholars need to ‘follow the money’ while also paying more attention to national political structures, and why the EdTech agendas of international organisations like OECD shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Accompanying referen...

Feb 27, 202422 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Is it time to rethink how we teach Digital Citizenship?

Jack Webster (University of Auckland) talks about the need to update how schools teach the topic of ‘Digital Citizenship’, and how post-digital thinking might revitalise this often-overlooked aspect of digital education. Accompanying reference >> Jack Webster (2024). Updating Digital Citizenship Education for a Postdigital Society. New Zealand Journal of Educational Studies https://doi.org/10.1007/s40841-023-00305-3

Feb 10, 202416 minSeason 1Ep. 9

AI technology in primary classrooms - a Swedish perspective

Katerina Sperling (Linköping University) talks about her ongoing research into the realities of AI use in Swedish primary classrooms. Accompanying reference >> Katarina Sperling, Linnéa Stenliden, Jörgen Nissen, Fredrik Heintz (2022). Still w(AI)ting for the automation of teaching: An exploration of machine learning in Swedish primary education using Actor-Network Theory. European Journal of Education , 57(4):584-600 https://doi.org/10.1111/ejed.12526...

Jan 24, 202417 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Why the digital disruption of higher education might be a long time coming …

Claire Murray (University of South Australia) talks about research looking at the claims made by EdTech companies and investors about the ‘digital disruption’ of universities. She talks about how the EdTech sector is limited by its focus on the economic value of higher education and promises of enhanced efficiency, acceleration and scalability. In contrast to promises of micro-credentials and nano-degrees, Claire’s work suggests that elite institutions, students and families continue to value th...

Dec 10, 202314 minSeason 1Ep. 7

The de-digitization of Swedish schools?

In August 2023, the Swedish education minister Lotta Edholm surprised many people by announcing her government’s intention to reverse the country’s previous bold commitment to the digitisation of schools. With more details now emerging of an official commitment to textbooks, hand-writing and other ‘analogue’ methods, we catch up Prof. Anna-Lena Godhe (Jönköping University) to find out what is really going on … and whether this is the beginning of an international political backlash against digit...

Nov 26, 202315 minSeason 1Ep. 6

The political and economic agendas behind EdTech

In this episode, Dr. Lulu Shi (University of Oxford) talks about the her new research around the economic and political agendas of tech firms and policymakers driving the digitalisation of education in the UK. Lulu’s work is already raising interesting findings. Amongst other things, we talk about the influence of effective altruism on UK government thinking around tech, and the ambitions of firms such as Duolingo to profit from testing and accreditation. Accompanying material >> More info...

Nov 15, 202315 minSeason 1Ep. 5

AI and education – making sense of the hype

Wayne Holmes (UCL) has been working around AI and education *long* before it became fashionable! In this episode, Wayne looks back over the recent hype around Chat GPT and generative AI and offers some suggestions of where the field of AI and education might be heading next. We also get up to speed on how international organisations such as UNESCO, OECD, the EU and Council of Europe are beginning to push distinct agendas around AI and education. Accompanying reference >> Wayne Holmes &...

Oct 23, 202314 minSeason 1Ep. 4

AI and education in China

Reports of ‘what China is doing’ are a key part of the hype around AI and education in Western countries. But how is AI actually being developed in China, and how can we make sense of the complex politics, history and culture of Chinese education? In this episode we hear from Jeremy Knox (University of Oxford) about his recent book ‘AI and education in China’. Accompanying reference >> Jeremy Knox (2023). AI and Education in China: Imagining the Future, Excavating the Past . Routledge http...

Oct 04, 202317 minSeason 1Ep. 3
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