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Do you think like that?

Go O, know it did. My vendor light came on and I did that. But they went and they running across the yard. Not a good sight or nothing.

I looked like a man.

I don't know what it was across the yard.

It seems to be a big foot leaning against a tree in a wooden area. I have seen.

Plenty of people with big feet, but not bigfoot.

Tree minds and rush.

He sees about a seven and seven and a half foot tall sasquatch looking back at him, and that.

Kind of looks like a wolf, but not like a neighborhood dog. Pick these stores for what they are and hopes that maybe I, if it's out there, don't show me. Yeah, and says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra creature terrorizing his chickens. It's like a grunt and a knock.

It's like a oh.

I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people to want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster. Welcome to ecbro O Bigfoot Radio. Hey, guys. Danton Bin while here, founder of the e c b R O, the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization, and I'm gonna tell you what. Ecb R Bigfoot Radio has teamed up with Media Squatch and we're very proud and happy to be a part of that network. Media Squatch is located out of Bedford, Virginia. And also I'm here to tell you

Uh, Chad Lewis, Adam Davies, Bartonley h David Weatherly Uh.

Oh in this name. I know this name so well. I know who the guy is, but I'm probably Butcher's name, trying to pronounce it. Al Jander, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I've seen him on documentaries and everything.

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I'm yeah, tard knees Josh Turner, Lauren Coleman, and again this is by Kenny Irish. There is an introduction by for those who know mister Ronald Murphy. I think Ronald is based out of I could be wrong. I want to say Kentucky or Tennessee, one of the surrounding states, somewhere around there. But yeah, it's a pretty good The only part I read was the chapter about me. I want to see how it came out. So, yeah, that was cool. Were you surprised, Well, no, I knew I was.

Were surprised by what you read about yourself?

Oh yeah, I didn't know I did that or see that, or yeah, I just.

Was it just a paragraph for the sever pages?

Oh yeah, my well yeah, my chapter starts from page fifty seven up to sixty eight, so there's a few page design Yeah. So yeah, so yeah that was pretty cool. You know, there's another gentleman who did something I believe he did along similar lines. I'm not gonna try to remember his name, but on Facebook and even on Instagram he goes by the big Foot, the Bigfoot Influencer. I think that was part of the name of his book

He's good. He still has shows and occasionally you'll come on my show.

Okay, yeah, last time, I mean last time I've ever seen any of the thing from him is like, you know, he'll react to some of my post on occasions, but that's about it. I haven't spoken to him in a long time. Yeah, because back when we used to be on looking for Bigfoot News Hour podcast and uh with the what's the kid's name?

Sean?

Remember was it Shawn.

Sean, wasn't it?

No? I don't think it was Shane Shane. Yeah. I had a figure second think maybe it's somewhere close to Sean, but yeah, Shane Shane Bradbury. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know why he stopped doing that all together? If I recall correctly, I think he met a girl. And yeah, he met a girl. I think that was a big part of it, and he didn't want I guess he didn't want no connection to fall back or like you know, like, hey, I'm involved with Bigfoot podcast. You know I'm gonna leave

You know, it's a big community comes around, it's a big revolving so a lot of old hoaxes and a lot of old photos videos get pulled back into the community with a whole new storyline, with the whole new.

Place that you know it happened at. So it happens. It happens all the time. And and I just try to tell Nope, that's not what that is. That is our favorite Sonny Vader at it again. He's constantly having out there of that blue looking sasquatch he has, and you know, the same ones come up over and over again, Mark Anders and and a bunch of others, and it's just about I try to let them know, you know, hey, Nope, that's not what that is. And I have documents to

Are you.

I had I interviewed Rick. I was one of the first to interview Rick Dyer about his hoaxes and had him on the year after that, but he swore he was he was done, you know, he was done with the bigfoot stuff, this and that, And then TikTok came along and he started up again talking about all of his nonsense. And about a week ago I think now he says that he has he got his team Team Tracker back in full swing and he's already caught Bigfoot

Yeah, you.

Go ahead.

Oh I'm sorry. I was just gonna say, well, what's going to hurt him? If? I mean, it just goes for anybody that's likes to pull fast one. And I hope, you know, the hoax people, there might be an opportunity or a time where you might actually capture the real deal. But if you try to go to show for people, if you get if you develop a history of coaching, you know, it's like crying wolf, who's gonna believe you, you know, right, you know, that's the way I look at it. I mean,

Yeah, he's going on and throughout that. But yeah, he's confessed to all that. Of course, he says he really had a big foot, but it was taken by the men in black, Okay, So what they did was, you know, put that costume in the freezer and froze it and that's how that all happened. But he says there really was one. We found one of the you know, on the side of the creek there, and he says that

Today, oh yeah, that's.

Your your hard earned money.

You know.

I wouldn't really be given that to something like that.

But yeah, that one of the things you talked about. Like a lot of these what we're we've been familiar with. We've seen them on and off over the years. The name one or two. One of the ones I see repeating and come around again is the Beacon Bigfoot. Yeah, that shoal today at my news feed from a group that was posted and somebody shared this and and I simply commented, that's from a movie that's not real. That's all cost him blah blah blah, And they're like, oh

Yeah, come back around and everything, you know, I took a deep dive into that Beacon Bigfoot hoax and found out that it was Ron English who actually did that film, and it was just a student film for his son and with the family of Bigfoot, you know, of stuffed bigfoots. Okay, they were all fake and they just posed them out there in the wilderness and took a bunch of shots. And now people think there's a baby Bigfoot on mama's back.

Yeah, that well that reminds me, well you said, you see, yeah, he's got pictures of them in display cases. Well, you know, there's other images of all the Bigfoot characters using those images of film. Are also there's scenes of them in like a building, in an office or or like a studio area kind of you know. Yeah, so yeah, people need to see that too. But but talk about a Bigfoot with a baby, Oh, go ahead.

People, there'll still be people won't believe it. Oh, that looks that's not right or and I'm like, no, that's the same one. That's the same thing. He's got the whole family, mom, dad, the juvenile that everybody calls chaka when. And then there's another with the mom and the baby on the back, you know.

Yeah, well talk about yeah what was it? Was it the Independence Day or whatever? That one little video clip they show what appears to be a big foot holding running with its baby in its arms from behind the rock. Yeah, that's another one. I see that one popping up a lot lately too. And uh huh.

I was just gonna say that one got recent traction because of thinker Funker and to say the whole thing is real.

What he's saying that was real. Yeah, all right, this is just my quick two cents on that one. I mean, I've watched that video clip numerous times. But to me, there's a red there's a red flag, and that red flag to me is okay may or. First of all, maybe that big put was trying to hide and panic and decided I'm going to get up and run. To me, it was like a movie scene, like action. Okay, yeah, now time to be seen. Let's go run and show

So if you really look at the film, you can see the camera lead off before the Bigfoot even starts to run right, well, you know, kind of indicates that. And somebody you brought it to my attention that they can see me the velcrow right here on the front of the Bigfoot where the hand is supposed to be for the baby, right, and it does. It looks like a strip of velcrow right here on the on the front. And oh there's a yeah, that are red flags about that thing?

Yeah, that one there. I mean, as far as taking it, I don't know to pick that up it was. It's blurry. It's kind of blurry for me to really notice all that. So I don't know. That's interesting that somebody was able to on their own pick that out. I don't know. Interesting. Well, let's see TWT I have. I've had trail cameras out for twelve years. Never a hit put out vintage thirty five millimeters mechanical cameras with fish line trip wire at

Yeah, we need at least two man teams to go out to be mind, I think be perfect.

At least at least two man teams or women.

And yeah, the more teams who have out there and more coverage, so you know, the better success might have on coming up with something or at least something a little different. After after dark, especially all hours of the night like that by himself, bears or anything like that. But you know, we do have the snakes and everything else that come out after night pretty much when they're prowling around hunting for the prey and everything. But two man teams that

Oh for sure. I think the big starting point, David, is at the gate where where the park lot is at the gate. Maybe go up on that little ridgeline there. I think that general area right there might be a good starting point conservating. That's where was it Paul what's what's his name, Paul his white Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah where she had said she seen what she saw there, and of course yeah, so yeah, Nikki, you give you

To the lake.

She was looking over her shoulder. From what I recall and the way she worded it, she was looking over her shoulder as her husband was parking and over at the gate She's looking at what she saw was a bear by the tree, and all of a sudden she saw it run across the forest road into the woods

Yeah, uh yeah, real quick, I just showed them where the gate was where they need to park to walk about maybe three quarters of a mile to the lake, which is a gravel road surrounded by the George.

Warston the National Forest. As you go to the lake.

We just got finished packing up man tolist them and they had come back from that walk and we stopped by to say just say bye to them and stuff, and her husband, uh, Paul says, yeah, well we just back there and we've seen a bear when we was pulling up the parking area and uh, she got to describing it. His wife did, and she was looking over her shoulder after the cab of the vehicle where the truck they were had they were driving in and seen him by the tree, and she was getting out of.

The cab of the vehicle.

Uh.

It took off.

Running across the gravel road from once from her left to her right and went down to a ravine to where there's a stream bed, and she her first impressions was it was a bear. Now she got nervous. She told her husbands she had just seen a bear run across the road. He got what he needed to get for protection wise, but they went on to continue to make the hike and when they come back, they when we met up with them when I was ready to leave, they gave us that little bit of description, and I

Or two? She says two? And then her her husband looked up.

And said, you didn't tell me that part was running on two legs, And she said, yeah, it just run on two legs. It probably covers roll about maybe three or four steps. Then I got to looking at her and I said, sure it was on two legs. She said yeah. And the bears don't run on two legs. I mean, they can stand up, they could semi hobble on two legs, but they can't run like a person on two legs. And when they do it's only for

They don't have the hip structure to be able to have that heat that human does.

They go from side side when they walk and you see in the affairs and all that other stuff, and they have bars for entertainment. And then she got this grid look on her face, and he got to asking her more questions, got a little bit more descriptive about what she had seen to where you just seen. She became flush because now she can't believe what she thought she may have seen may not have been what she.

Thought she had seen.

And we can only go about what she was saying as far as that, but I could tell by her expression that she's now had she.

It phaced her?

Is what had done? Now a little bit of background on them, I think she's either FBI retired.

FBI wanted her to.

But against She says she wasn't well versed on wildlife and a lot of their behavior and stuff. But now her husband's in the Bigfoot research and stuff like that, and I think he might be part of the FBI too, or retired.

They both might be retired. I can't remember about that aspect.

So yeah, I know he's military. I know he's former military.

Military you are, and he's level headed about stuff like that. I mean, he's not one to go running around looking at every bush to send it's a big foot or every shadow stuff like that.

I mean, he MutS proof too.

He wants to keep logic behind it like we all do out there and stuff, because if you don't have to defend the proof, you have nothing. But if you think you find stuff, you gotta work backwards. He'd come to a conclusion, was it or was it not? A lot of times you may come up with well, we still don't know. But she couldn't get over that. I mean, she really became flushed after she had told us that story and said, well, I don't think it was a

But now that evening they've heard something. They've been there. I think it was the second or third night there we had left.

Yeah, they had something camp.

Yeah, yeah, by their camp where the where they had their trailer up on the ridge line where Daniel had walked earlier as far as that part, but they couldn't describe what I mean.

It could be anything. We got deer, we got beer, We've got a lot of stuff back there.

But that made him a little uncomfortable that even though it's forth what they're hearing, because they really couldn't say it sounded familiar, it was different, and that's all you know. They could go by as far as that. But it's just amazing as some things come about out of the blue and we're all packed up and ready to go. We just spent a week out there, and it's all primitive out there. You don't have a lot of people. It's not like some of these other lakes and stuff.

Maybe do it a couple of nights, you know, as far as.

That, Oh absolutely, oh for sure.

But we gotta have the people. But yeah, I would like to have somebody back at base camp. Uh yeah, I mean, if nothing else, just to watch the camp, because you do have some thieves that come back here and now and try to rape places. But we get into communication aspect. I would get with Daniel more on that as far as setting up a relay from base camp and then one up there by the gate that way off because the radio transmissions don't communicate through rock

That we triangle is what it is.

That way, you got full coverage as far as being able to communicate with each other at that.

One point is where it gets kind of spotty.

That's the rocks.

So yeah, we'll go out and test all that anywhere. We're going to do it because you need to go out and test it. You got to be prepared forgot the best to set up that triangulation for clear communications with everybody further out may not hear a base camp. Base camp can't hear further out, but they can hear that middle person. They can relay information as need be. But we'll talk about all that later for as a Oh, for sure, I think we need to do that.

Yeah, David, you just made me think of something else too. One of the things we could do out there too, because you know, when you approach to the lake area, you know you're coming up to the top of the little hill and you're overlooking you got the lake there, and then off to you far right, it's a lot of open ground up you know, you know, you've got the whole I mean, you're surrounded by all the on the forest here, but there's a lot of open area

Well we have to check it out. I'd be a good feeding area for deer too. And of course if you've got feeding area for deer in an other wildlife in.

That area, because they know that's where they can go to. Uh did their hunting right as far as that.

So yeah, the other thing too, you know, with with Ryl's story and what she claimed the scene and after we got the understanding, okay, what she saw was on two feet. I feel that that area was credible. I mean, not not the area, but her story. I feel like there's truth there because giving the history that I've learned from others in that area or have been through the area or in the surrounding area, because that general area

I'll tell Naked too is when listen. First, we've we've always been interested in paranormal We both had paranormal experiences growing up and.

Stuff like that. We've always been interested in cryptis on the side.

The stuff that we met Dan, you know about five years ago, we got worked up with them, Uh give us opportunity to go out and learn more about the crypt of that aspect of Bigfoot and such. And when we put on Facebook that we got involved with this group to go out and do this, we knew it was gonna get flag or feedback. I mean that's fine. You know, people's gonna you're gonna have your nay theeries. I mean I haven't seen one yet, but you're gonna have those's gonna make fun of it. We're gonna have

I mean, that's just another aspect. Well look at it too.

People want to get with you privately and they don't want to be out there in the open talking about it. I think it just gets a bit more credibility to what may be going on. So that's why I look at.

It, and yeah, absolutely, With that being said, one thing I would make mentioned. It seems like there's some big activity kind of stuck the flare up in Virginia itself. Within a week's time. I've had two separate reports recently. One individual has been trying to get in touch with me. They finally reached out to me and they sent me it might as well be a book. What the email they sent me with the details and the information they sent me. I mean, you probably write a book from this story.

You know.

However, probably about a week before that was another story of a sighting. Now keep I re mind you the location. It is down southwest Virginia, but it's in Virginia. But the locations are probably no more than a half hour or forty five minutes apart on the north you know, again is southwest Virginia. So there is other reports, uh, like the one the one gentleman who I met his fiance She works at the bank that I go to. Uh,

Wine Brandywine area?

Yeah, right, So yeah, like I was talking about, this is kind of like, you know, you got the Alaskan Triangle the review to time. Well, you know, I kind of like I'm developing this cluster of a lot of activity that either what I've experienced and all the little notes and reports from other people, it's all happening within a certain perimeter here in Virginia. It seems like there's a I don't know, maybe it's not quite a triangle, but it almost looks like if you look at each

Two things that struck me from that, when Dave came out and I came back from the house to get more firewood stuff for us, he was there. I didn't know he was coming. I get the impression he took his time to come meet with Daniel to tell his story because something happened that made him uncomfortable. Yeah, he

That they can't explain right? And I find that I find that interesting as far as that aspect.

So that's two things that's you know, that jumps out at me on that to where.

It keeps the interest there.

You know what's going on out there, you know, and we're all looking for answers and with stuff I guess just keeps coming forward. It just makes you want to keep getting out there to research, do your own investigations.

Oh, absolutely, absolutely real quick to answer, Harold Dtton, This is Donald for those who don't know, his name is Donald Denton. But Harold, to answer your question. The two most reported sightings that I got in southwest Virginia. One was probably down around that's the area. It begins with a. I used to deliver down there quite a bit with my old company.

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I'll have to come back to you because I have having the hardest time today remembering locations. I know where it is. But uh, yes, thank you, Josh, thank you Abingdon. Yes, uh one of the reports were really just on the western part of Abington, thank you. Abington, Virginia is where I used to go down to all the time to deliver. But yeah, if for those who know Abad in Virginia, you guys know how royal and how wooded and country it is out there. One of the reports were right in that general area.

Uh.

The other location was probably a little bit south of Abington, a little bit from the south of Air, which is both of these location are south of Taswell, Virginia and Taswell Virginia has had reported sightings in some other weird, strange activity over the years. There's the old report where supposed you a gentleman has shot and wounded a big foot where it got drug off by another big foot, and supposed the MB showed up at that location.

I don't know.

I haven't really looked into that story in a long time, but yeah, the whole southwest Virginia has got some history. It's some weird crap goes on down there. But as far as the two sightings, this is recently. This is within a week apart, a week apart. And locations if you look on a map of these two locations, I have all the information and exact locations, but I don't

Yeah? Yeah, I went and had my first Daniel Sasquatch dig there at Saint Helens in Washington.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

We camped down right there with Thomas Steamberg, Rent Dill, Jay Birch, Michael Gallaher, a couple other people showed up and it was great. It was a great time. Five days. On Saturday Mountain, which was the last night, that got a little crazy when all the big guys had already left. Why why does that that's a whole thing right there. Why does stuff happen on the last night when all your cameras are full, all the batteries are dead, everybody's gone.

Well, that's the way the cookie crumbled because, like you said, some of the people had already left and broke camp and you're there with whatever. How many people will left, so the the area that can't become less intimidating for those who might want to venture in, to get curious, to come out.

Curiosity.

Yeah, when everything quiet down, after all the activity and stuff, even things out there, they may want to come in.

It was there, but I think I don't know, it seemed pretty dead for the first four days, and then that last night we were hearing grunts and and uh motion And then something walked up to my tent that night and chot at me, and uh, I don't know what animal does that without sniffing, scratching, making any other kind of noises. And of course that's the first time that's ever happened to me. And you never know how

Ha ha interesting. Wow.

The bipedal walk up to my tent and then the chaw and then it stood back up and it walked back to the garbage.

M Now, when everyone else left, who was all there besides you that was left over? It was it just you and a couple others or one.

Four of us still there? It was me and one tent and the and the tent. I it wasn't real tent. It was one of those ice houses where the bottom is there's no bottom. Oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm also thinking something was going to reach its hand up underneath the camp. Yeah, I was frozen. And then right next to me was Jennifer excuse me, Jennifer Watkins. And then there were a little bit of trees, and beyond that was oh my god, I forgot his name, another guy.

Oh yeah, one, but like was it like a teardrop camper.

One of the older and older model, uh.

Little, yeah, a little mini vintage camper. Yeah.

I knew where everybody was because his trailer door made wanted noise when it opened, So I knew they were in there, you know. And I knew jen was right next to me because I could hear her and oh it almost his name almost came to me, Dakota. Dakota had a sleep apnea machine out there, and so I knew where he was, and we didn't have our radios on. Everything was dead. We had been out there for five days already. All of our cells and our power sources

The tent. In thought every.

And so I have three. I did not sleep that whole night. I heard, I listened to this thing walk around the camp, It went down to the creek, it came out, and finally about four or five in the morning, everything got quiet. I fell asleep, the sun started to come up, everybody started to get up. We came out. We all, uh well, the three of us in the tents had experiences that night, but the trailer no nothing from the trailer, and we walked to where the creek was.

Oh wow, I had one hundred.

Percent thought, I'm gonna wake up, I'm going to find that garbage just strewn everywhere, and it wasn't It was just a few foil packets out of there, and I'm like, there's an open box of sugar cubes sitting right there on the table, and cookies and a bunch of other crap. Because we were so tired, everybody just went to bed. We didn't even think about picking up nothing. We hadn't seen any animals all week, so we got complacent and we left that garbage sitting out there full. And I

Huh uh.

But not opened, not messed with. There wasn't any fingerprints on it. There wasn't. It was just the bad they're sitting there, not crushed or messed with.

Yeah, because you think if there was a raccoon or even a bear they were shred of that thing or open, I would have hurt something.

And if it was a bear that came up to my tent, where was the snorts, where was a you know what? Where was that? There was none of that something We've all been camping and in the tent and you somebody's on the other side of the tent. You can feel that or see kind of feel that darkness that comes towards the tent. That's what happened, you know. I could feel that something was had walked up and stopped,

M Now night, wasn't it? You remember what about what time that was?

Uh?

Yeah, I have all that documented. You can find all those videos on my channel, Sasquat's Secret. If you go to the video section, you'll find the night the what did I call it? I don't know if I did call it the Sasquatch Player Night videos or something. All the times we time because every time I was talking to the video, I was uh, indicating what time it was, So I have a pretty good timeline of exactly when stuff was happening. And Jen, at one point I heard something.

Well.

At some point I thought I heard her moving her suitcase because it sounded like something dropped, and I thought, oh, what she doing moving her suitcase right now? And she thought the same thing of me the next day when I said did you move your suitcase that line? She goes, no, But I thought you moved your suitcase. And that's when we dawned on us. That we weren't hearing the suitcase.

Yeah, I was just about to break that up because you shared with be those footprints.

If I recall and remember correctly from what I've seen, I would have to go back and look at that, back at what you said to you.

But you know, my first and this was Loot. When I first glanced at him, okay, oh, they got those are bears. But then I started looking at the full images. Then then what I was paying attention to. When I started focusing more, Wait a minute, don't look like bear tracks. Those look more humanoid.

But they look like they were small. They were maybe nine nine inches I think ten.

What do you know of right? What you would know?

Think?

Okay, that you know that would probably be about a three hundred pounds bear if it wasn't bear. But they did look very humanoid. But because when I first looked down, yeah, I would think it's there. But then I started questioning my mind, like no, wait a minute, yeah.

And then I had one where it was a wet track, so wet from when it came out of the water. Yeah, I wonder if I have those right here? Hold on, let me Oh wait, you can't do it that way because oh maybe I can. Let me see how far down this goes. Oh no, I don't have it there. How can I do this? Let me go to here, hm hm m m and those would be shindig Oh my god.

Here?

Yeah, yeah, are you able to pull them up on here? We'll do.

But let me see if I can.

Uh.

I'm trying to find where I put.

Them, because if you do a free share of them on here, I don't know, well, I don't know if is there anything I can't remember. I haven't had the deal in a while, so it'll pop.

Up down at the bottom, just like somebody's coming into your show and.

Then oh I've got here.

Yeah, it's not not coming up. Hold on h.

M hm hmmm, and.

My pictures aren't coming out. Mhm m.

Hey real quick, Well, Nikki's looking for that, David. I want to ask you real quick, the first initial gate out there by where we camp at, uh, is that gate currently locked up right now? Till when? Up till April? They don't open that up to label right.

I'm thinking until April fifteenth. Okay, I know it's I came from April first or April fifteenth. I have to look at that email I got from the Park Service.

Okay, yeah, I was trying to do some research. I was going on to the forest Service area for that location, and I was gonna trying to find learn all the information I can about that area as far as when the gates open it. I couldn't find. No, they don't specify location information on are on the on the Department of Gaining Indeficialies, nothing, you know.

Like that's what I had to send them an email as the content. Yeah, the gates only closed for vehicle traffic. It's open all right.

That's long war, right right, Like I told you. That's what happened the first year I ever camped there, several years ago. I had to That's what I had to do. I had to park up there at the overlook area and hike all myself down to the camp area where we were camp from there, which I don't mind doing that. But the reason I'm asking, I just want to make sure because this weekend I'm gonna have some free time to come a weekend, I want to camp somewhere. It's

So yeah, I don't know why loading is just empty. It's like a white I probably have too much stuff open right now.

Mm hmm. This is interesting. On the live Chare Dishes for Life said, I've had items completely disappear for hours and then reappear back where I left them out alone by myself. That's interesting. Hmmm mm hmm. I can't say I've very had ever had that happen.

Yeah, hm, well, the hell that happened, but none out in the woods.

Yeah it will happen. Wow. Interesting yeah, mm hmmmm. Harold Dan, stop talking about trucks focused on the podcast, not just joking.

Maybe I think my Google somewhere let me check my driver. Oh I shouldn't have gone to.

Photos instead.

Mhm.

Yeah. If I do decide to go down towards the Falk Running area, I might just uh I might just do that. I might. I might park at the gate there at the overlook area, and uh I might I might try to set something up there, and you know, during the off season when that gates closes. I mean, do you do you think people will ride down there or you.

Know, I don't know.

Because a lot of people know that gates closed back here, a lot of people.

Are going and some people.

Yeah, I mean that's like anywhere else areas like that, probably more so because knowing that nobody's will be going back there and may go back here for more interfarious reasons.

Right, That's that's my concern, because like if I go back here, I don't need a roof raft going over there in parking near me and doing their whatever they do because they know they're private back there and nobody's gonna see them do their whatever exactly.

Yeah, I mean I to say that, but yeah, I mean when when you go alone like that, Uh, I don't know.

I mean I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean there's other area. Yeah, there's other areas out there that I know of. Uh, there's like I said, there's other areas in the surrounding era I know of that. I can't that before, not in that particular area, but

Uh.

Because the first night, like I said, when he took you there, we camp there. We had this grunt real close to camp, you know, at nighttime and uh yeah, which he declared, yeah, that was that was a bear. But the night I camped there, which I've shared this a few times, I kept there by myself, you know.

How far away where are you from the power line?

The power lines, Oh, they were right over above me.

Yeah, aside from the tree cracking and stuff like that. Uh, power lines will play havoc on your psyche because of the amount of power that they're generating.

Right, Oh, I get that. I get that. But these were like clearly, like very close sounds of something like a big tree being cracked and half a side.

Yeah. Aside from that, I understanding everything else.

The way you were feeling and discomfort depending on the amount of power and how big the paralynes were place havoc with your psyche as far as that, because your body can actually feel it, and then you're hearing the tree cracking just probably amplify that feeling within itself, right.

Yeah, I mean, like I said, I didn't know what to think of it. I mean, if it was at bear, it was awful bold, It wasn't shy. I mean, I mean I made the noise from after the first crack of the tree I heard, and you know, I didn't know what to think, especially hearing it right behind my tent that the second time, Yeah, put me on edge. I felt very vulnerable.

I mean, yeah, the cracking didn't sound natural, I know, just breaking olden stress and all that other stuff.

Because like I said, it was no wind no sound. It was dead silent up to here and no two cracks. And I didn't know what to think. I like I said, even though I had my side on my head, I had a forty four, not a forty four. I had a forty five with me that time, and which is a pretty good knockdown thing. But I just felt intimidated. I just, I guess again, feeling vulnerable and not knowing

Harmed me, you know, and learn to make sure you get all your equipment charges up.

But that's what gets me because yeah, I mean, I mean that power. That's that's another thing I thought about too. Because I was like I, you know, I grew up there was all my stuff charge you know. Uh no, now you don't know me. Now, I keep extra power sources to keep charging my stuff up. But I was just out there for one night. Yeah, because you.

Know it's funny when I got when I left that area, I left my The only thing that was left near there was my tent.

I came back about two weeks later. Of course my tent was untouched, nothing messed with it, so I was able to pack up my tent, you know. But yeah, because when I got back, that's the area. Yeah, I'd love to take you guys out there.

Yeah, because I grew up in Fox Trin.

I grew up in fol run there right, and I would I have a.

Feeling I know where you're talking about that I would have to see it.

Yeah, it depends on how high the water. The one area you have to enter to come up the mountain, Like I said, there's a concrete uh slab where you have to drop down and drive through the creek to come up back onto the road. Well, yeah, you guys, see my car I drive right now. I don't know how that would handle through that little bit. I mean uh, last time we have a Toyota, oh yeah, and a Dodge Yeah. So yeah this time of year.

As to say, even back at Slate Lake that the weather we've had, I mean the clearance you got on the bomb of your car. Uh, just been careful going back here and you wouldn't bottle Mountain get stuck. Oh yeah, very We have't been back there since the camp. I don't know that role might have been washed down any due to the weather and stuff right now.

But yeah, I mean I've driven into Yeah, I've driven in small cars before out on the fourth Roads before, you know. I mean, you know, like out there where we camp that in October. I think that road, I think my car would be okay. But again, I don't know. It's not a state they can road, so I wouldn't.

You know, I'm saying pretense because the way that's laid out back here is it does.

Wash out a lot.

And if you were turning back here, you's seeing that big mound of gravel on the side of the road just off to the side. Yeah, they use that to repair the roads with a lot. That's why they keep so much back there.

Oh yeah, yeah, that's.

What that's for they're trying to keep a level out and graded as much as possible, so they do get a lot of washouts to cause to the lay of the land.

So yeah, that's kind of up around at Elkhorn Lake on the on the fourth road. Ears that are not paid they have. I mean, the worst case scenario when when you get a lot of rain is you got

Yeah, they're down there at the bottom.

Oh down here at the bottom. Hold on, I'm not seeing no way to pull them up.

You just click on it.

Uh wait, where do I click on it? What do you mean? I don't see nothing showing up on my end.

You don't see them down at the bottom where my face is. And then next two.

Uh no, all I see if I click on your like if I click on your name or your picture.

If so, it's on its own. It's all by itself, like as.

If Oh yeah, I got I got it right here.

Yeah there you go, there we go.

Okay, I was.

Coming out of the creek and yeah, I didn't the tape measure with me. Like I said, we were getting ready to leave and everything was just a mess and that morning.

So yeah, it does look a little wet.

Where there shouldn't be no way, so it didn't rate, you know, there wasn't anything.

There was a weird kid mark, and then uh we thought maybe something feed there because it kind of trickled down back to that creek.

Right. That is interesting though, that's weird. I mean that in person, that's what it looked like, Like it look like a stream of wetness or like it looked like a like almost like scraped to ground.

Yeah, it was like a scrape originally and then wetness and then it was crazy. Let me see if I can find because I know what I'm looking at It's so horrible. How pictures of footprints don't look as good as.

You see in person. Oh, trust me. I say that all the time because I see stuff that you can see clearly in person, but pictures, pictures and stuff like tracks never do justice. I get that.

Yeah, corner where was walked up, This was the corner of that I was at. And yeah, you can't you can't see what I see. Okay, so this is let me move to the next one, this one. If you look at the right side, you can see the toads yep, right there, they're very round. And where that big rock is that is kind of like where the mid Tarsl break would be.

Oh okay, and.

Then it goes a little further down. But that's my phone, my phone, somebody's phone, I don't know above it. So it was small, there was They were not big feet walking around barefoot out there.

Uh, there's a possibility it made have been a young adolescence that was curious, because they say a lot of the young ones are more mischievous and curious than anything else.

Now, Jenson saw bigger footprints on the other side of the truck. I don't have those pictures but uh so she was. You know, we were thinking, well maybe it was an adult looking out of you know, over a juvenile possibility anyway, right, hmmm, yeah, See these just don't look they're not great. It really hard there to find footprints because of the terrain and the substrate, right, It's just really that was our I think that was one of our feet. We were testing to see how hard we could make a print.

Right now, Was that a normal step or did you try to put some weight on it to make it print?

To put weight on for that one right there? Yeah, we stomped like a stomp, you know it was and there was little bits of wetness everywhere when we didn't know what that was huh, far away from you know, because that was just right there next to the Also that night I had heard we had all our chairs, you know, in a circle, because you know, when you get together with everybody, you huddle around the camp fire.

Usual.

Let's see.

So there was a lake in the area where you guys are at.

Yeah, down, yeah, a little a little ways, a couple of miles down there was a there was a lake. But it is beautiful for sure, really beautiful out there.

You know.

Going back to that truck right quick, they had those prestls in the bed of it.

That's an Almo truck, right yeah, like those.

Eyes ram thinking you have to have to be able to reach over to the bed of the truck just to manipulate the back of prestels.

That's a long reason, yea.

Even for a big man to be able to lean over to do that that long arm.

Right like me, I'm six foot tall. Still, like even like standing up against your truck, David, Yeah, you would have to kind of like reach down, like. Yeah, it is a good reason because the way you pick up trucks set up or now like yours.

Okay, you see where the oil bottle is right well to the right of that is like a mustard bottle or something down there by the the end of the four okay, yeah, right behind that is where that pretzel bag is.

Okay, I ain't got that kind of long arms without getting to.

Pull it to me.

Yeah, all this stuff was pretty much not there. And but all the stuff on this table that was right next diet, it's good for them, No, go ahead, watch.

That's making me hungry.

L He made us meat loaf out there that was like to die for it.

Yeah, as best we can, wow.

Se if we can still see that back there.

Camping?

Okay, see the table back there, how messy it was, how we had a bunch of crap on there. That stuff stained out there all night and it wasn't it wasn't knocked over. It wasn't nothing was touched. There was cookies, open, sugar cubes. Nothing.

There's Jen with Bear's been opportunistic. I don't think that was the barebacker. It had to be something else.

I just and Jen can tell you too. I think we both thought we were gonna wake up to having a mess out there, and all that stuff was still there. It was just there.

You know.

Interesting thing is there was a game camera laying on the table in the far corner. Yeah, down the game camera and it was sitting there on the table.

Wow, was it activated or just sitting there?

No, we had taken it down already.

It was oh okay, it's.

A weird thing that happened. And and oh you can almost see the pretzels there now behind that bottle. It's a light blue. It's a very light blue. Yeah, package back there. Anyway, it was, you know, interesting little trip for sure.

Oh yeah, but you know, well, definitely get we got to get you out here to Virginia. I know you've been out here in the Virginia with your aunt that come out to my event, but you need to come out cancel with us one day for sure.

You know, it's just hard when traveling, you know, and having to borrow gear and everything and not having your own stuff, and.

Right, oh I get that.

Yeah, because so last year I ended up having the shindig up in British Columbia. So I flew to Calgary and Mike, who who I just pointed out a while ago, picked me up in Calgary and we drove across the Canadian Rockies all the way to British Columbia to Sasquatch Provincial Park, where we stayed for five nights there. And that was amazing, a lot, a lot of history. We went to the Chapman Farm, we went to the famous oh my gosh, what's his name? I can't think of his name now?

Well who was he?

Well, the boy, the Squatch boy, what was his name? Oh my god? Helped me out, Jim again, think any more. I've been up since for three to thirty this morning.

Oh my.

Yeah, I had the early shift today. So we did all that. It was wonderful experience. I got taken around all over and this coming July, I really want to get to Bluff Creek, Jacko, thank you Jacko. Yeah. I got to go to the rail railroad tracks right to where he was supposedly climbing the side of the wall there the mountain. But all that is on my channel as well, if you want to see all that has been documented. And I want to go to Bluff Creek. I want to go to Bluff Creek, but I want

Ah yeah, yeah, so.

I got a couple of things in the works, but I don't know if we'll have to see it's soon to say if I can make it happen.

Well, for future reference, if you ever want to join one of our campus we hold them every spring and fall, usually around May in September. So if you ever want to plan ahead and it's like, okay, Daniel, I want to come to your spring or fall. Came about one of the dates, you know, just let me know and I'll throw them out there for you.

Cool, absolutely, thank you.

Yeah yeah, so yeah, sounds pretty adventurous. You've been getting around, you know.

Yeah, yet you know that was the whole point of me, is trying to go to all these popular places. I want to go to the LBL one time.

I want to.

I almost had an opportunity to go to Florida, but it was just such late notice that I couldn't make that happen because I was saving all my money for Canada. Right, I just have to kind of pick and choose. Right now, you know where I want to go?

Now correct me if I'm wrong. You go. When you go off on these adventures, you go by yourself.

Right.

The Javier stays home.

Don't he eats camping?

Yeah?

He didn't.

He ever do camping when he was in the marine. She's a marine. He should love the camp.

That's why he hates it. He goes. They made me camp for twenty six years. I ain't never camping again.

He yeah, not a different time of camping though.

Yeah he might. That's what I'm saying. He might actually like doing what you do.

Took him once and that was enough because I had and I had planned to go over to the Mogian Remend Blue camp out. And yeah, he took me to that because he knew my heart was in it. I was so ready to go, and he says, I'll take emergency leave. I'll take you out there, and so he did. He took some emergency leave. He took me out there, and he could not wait to get out of there. He wow, he himself, Okay, he made friends with all my friends, but he still couldn't wait to leave. Yeah,

Yeah. Well, you know, I know, I'm assuming both of you and your husband both have concealed carrier permits and everything the background.

He does, of course, but I don't. Yeah, he trying to get me to do mine, but I don't have it now.

The reason the reason I was asking or bringing that up, because I know, because of your background and the military background, I don't know if you guys like have certain like I know some states like here in Virginia, I have to pay attention to, like if I travel, what states allow me to have it in their states and whatnot?

Be taking bear spray around, you know, I couldn't take any Canada, of course, nothing. So I was borrowing from people. And then here in Texas we can open carry and we can have our you know, license or whatever. But I I don't hunt. I don't investigate here in Texas. I investigate in New Mexico. So I travel to New Mexico a couple hours. I'm right on the border. I'm literally right a mile from New Mexico, a mile from Mexico on the little squiggly lines that's where I.

Ah.

Yeah, So I go up to New Mexico and you can't have guns there. So and then a lot I kind of bordered the Indian reservation. So that's another reason I can't have a weapon there. Because I.

Was gonna say, you're also I'm assuming you're not far from Oklahoma as well, are you?

Yeah? No, I am far far from Oklahoma.

Oh you are, Okay, Okay, I'm just trying to picture there because for the reason I bring that up, Yeah, yeah, because Shane Carpenter and uh who is Shane Carpenter and Brian Hulan. I hope I ain't getting two names. I know they've done a lot of investigations and uh camp outs of their own in Oklahoma, and they've had a lot of kivy there in the past.

You know, from what I re call, all of East Texas is squatchy, all the way up into Oklahoma and Arkansas. You know, yeah, yeah, that's all squatchy. But that's two days drive for me. Remember, Texas is really big.

It is.

Yeah, You're right, it is. And I've never been down there, but you know, I can imagine so.

One drive to San Antonio.

Yeah, being on the talking about the eastern part of Texas, I know there's been a lot of there's a lot of big foot research along that ear too, especially in the southeastern parts of Texas. Uh. Back from when I used to you know, I associate with Baldimar and there's others that actually do research and stuff down there that have big reports from those areas.

Yeah, you are uh huh the Big Thicket area.

Okay, it's good.

National preserve or something. And then you've got that whole Houston area down there.

Uh.

I can't remember the name of it now.

Yeah, I'm trying to think is it one of the one of the rivers down there or somewhere near a water source? I know Baltimore Baltimore had pointed it out and I've seen it on documentaries. But is there supposedly some of the river beds down there that have old dinosaur tracks fossilized into the river beds or creek beds down there? Yep, Yeah, I always thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah. Uh,

Just I don't know, were there to be what dinosaur.

Bigfoot or anything large. Yeah, I mean, I guess foot, but I've heard rumors in in the past where people think that there could be some kind of remaining large I don't know, living dinosaur possible today. I don't know.

I don't think. I don't know, Yeah, for sure, I don't. I don't think so anymore. I think I've already discovered that. You know, they do say that the chupacabras all in that area too, but everything points to that they're just seeing mangy you know, koy dogs and coyotes and wolves and stuff.

Yeah.

Mm hm, of course. You know, you you ever watched documentaries about you know, I watched a lot about Alaska, the Alaska Triangle, uh, you know, big foot reports, And of course there was one documentary I watched which I found very interesting where the scientists and so, you know, they they they measure movement off of their sonars and stuff off or whatever they call it. But something is causing these I don't know, cause I don't know the

But I don't think I think that's a possibility anymore either. I do know that they are going to create mammis right now. They are creating mammos. They have the DNA sequenced and they're gonna make a baby.

Oh yeah, I mean that's right. They have found full intact remains of a small ones, you know.

Yeah, they have the whole sequence for that.

Wow, that would be interesting.

I think there's that now. You know, we always say that up there in Alaska, Canada, that the Sasquatch are probably a lot larger in those areas because it's colder, it's a colder area, harsher climate. They're probably bigger, they're you know, more hair, longer, bigger coats, just like we Florida they have coats because it's why.

Yeah, well that and you would think that that, you know, there's should be, assuming that there should be plenty of food source for them.

They shribe and live healthy up there.

Yeah, bigger animals, you know.

Right, Look the moose, the elk, the bear, the massive up there. I mean yeah, I mean they don't smell. They don't sell small calibers for nothing. I mean large caliber rifles and shotguns up there in Alaska for nothing. Uh.

I think it's possibility there there. I don't I haven't studied the witness statements for that area, so I don't know where all the witnesses are seeing this thing. I don't know, you know. But as before I go into an area and then you start really investigating and seeing what's going on and stuff like that and getting the actual sightings. The claim is is that the LBL area

Yeah, I agree, that's anywhere right. I mean, it's like you know, in my main researcher I can tell you. I mean I've had my experiences there, but to find evidence period what we would considered evidence personally, I mean, it's here to miss. I've gotten into these years numero times and I find nothing. I mean I found things that could be possibilities, but never anything to me that would be definitive or like, hey, I can say this is what this is or what I believe this could

But Jennifer Watkins, who was just in the chat a little while ago, She's like, Hawkeye man, things in the track that I just walk over, you know, Like right, yeah, I was just there. But I'm truly to the point in this journey of mine where I don't think we're gonna go out and find them. I think they find I think who is We need to go out there and make ourselves available, you know, put ourselves in situations where they might run into us. And that's how it's

Now, I had tried that back in twenty thirteen, well thirteen, uh yeah, we were out the twenty thirteen times. I recall this one area to bring up his name, mister Fred Canny, me and him for camp in this one area where we got whooped at one night, real close to camp. Well, this very safe here, huh go ahead?

Was it thirty feet tall?

Now we didn't see what whooped that does, but we heard it very clear as day. He was sitting next to me. Yeah, we had two small little dome tents and well we had Yeah, we had the fire going. It was probably about ten o'clock or so at night. We're sitting there. His jeep. He had his old jeep that he used to have, his old or whatever I forget his old, big, old military jeep and he had a trailer hooked up to it. Now I recall he had his he had his uh pair of ball Mike

Yeah?

I hear it. It's like it sounds like it's happening on the other side of his jeep. And after we heard that, it's like, oh, man, Like I was excited because, like, I know, we have that recording. Long story short, No, his device was never set on record. It wasn't doing nothing. It was just sitting on his being dead. I was like, are you shitting me? You know what that was back in twenty thirteen. Long story short, I've camped in the same location multiple times now. I've camped in with just

You know.

It was loud enough to where it got picked up on the recording. And again, I had a cheap I had back in twenty thirteen. I had a cheap junkie phone, but it still picked up the audio, you know. And so I thought that was interesting because you know, there's I feel like there's something that passes through or goes through this area because David, Melissa, this spot that I'm

The campsite, you know.

So I know there's like there's been definitely some movement and some activity in that location. And but that whole general area that keep in mind. I tell people I had which I need to get a new one put together, the other ones lost or gone. But I had a full map system of the whole location and I used to document every time I would have an experience or

You know.

You can't guarantee activity or anything anytime. It's just we hope for it. We can only hope for it.

You know.

So.

But yeah, going going back to the Obo right quick for for Nikki, there's a lot of history there, uh to research if you ever do make that trip. Way back in the day, people did used to live back here early nights somewhere thereabouts. The government came in and moved everybody else because the government built bunkers and stuff back there. Doing what they the government did back her way back in the early days. But anyway, seven April nineteen eighty two, look his story up when you get

Research that.

Look it up, make your own conclusions what you might think about it. But it's something interesting. Since we're all into this anyway, you know, coming up with answers and going out looking for things. I don't think they ever really find out who did it or how or what people speculate. Dog man, Yeah, I know you heard a dog man. I don't think there's wild cats in that.

Part of Kentucky. I was raised to Kentucky.

I've never known any and this is southern Kentucky LBL. But I've never heard of any mountain lion or a thing like that that would do that. I mean, I think they could certainly drag a child up in a tree, but I think it might have been a family for I believe. So some was found inside the RB that was murdered and bodies tore apart, and then one of the children was actually found up in a tree. So

Interesting streaking.

Yeah, very.

I'm just curious because I have this comment posted up on the screen. The Hunter he said, I'm out in the woods a lot and didn't hear all this stuff. Love to know the area you're in so I can go and check it out myself. But the Hunter, if you're listening, I'm just curious to know where you're located. Where are you from? Are you willing to share your full identity? You are safe with us, share away. So Melissa,

I go on March third, where they're going to do the CT simulation and that's where I'll get the tatting done. Oh a week later when I'm supposed to start Marshall radiation treatments.

Okay, so gotcha, Nicki. If you have any questions, NICKI might know some questions for you. She's a nurse.

Give you here to midnight Internet research and the stuff. You're driving me crazy.

Pa, I work with Terry.

Oh okay, Oh lord, well, Nikki provides some territory of food with me. I'm a diabetic, help me eat healthier. I know, right, I enjoined the quarter quarter cheese, French fries and Dr Pepper Oh mine. Ah, so yeah, you know I gotta get That's another one, Nikki. Have you ever met William Nighthawks before? I spoke with him before, I don't believe. So, oh yeah, you would love him. He's also Native American. Uh, and he is full of information and knowledge. To have you on with him, Uh.

The strangest podcast channel thing down so I could go look it up later.

Yeah, he's a walk con dictionary.

Yeah, he has a lot of information. He Yeah, it's like his mind. You bring up a subject, He'll tell you anything you want to know about it. It's like he knows you know. Uh, he's full of knowledge and wisdom. Uh. He knows a lot of history of Native American. You know. Again, he's Native American himself. On Facebook. You find him on Facebook, it goes by, you know. His name is William Nighthawk on Facebook. So yeah, he's a very incredible guy. Uh. He lives local to us and hopefully he's up to it.

You know that Daniel dagnavit.

Oh, I didn't give Nikki don't know the background the story behind the donuts. David. So they're retired, but they worked at Christy Kreme, you know, for exercise, you know, you know, fined money. But I joked with David because you know, I went in there one day and I caught him wearing an apron, so you know, he has his manhood estate. So I and at the last camp I presented him with a new apron it's a big but holding that, don't it?

So?

You know, so maybe he'll wear it at the next camp. I don't know. There we go, Hey, Melissa, hold it up one more time. There we go. That's the apron I got for David David's donuts. That yeah, did you have that special? What's that? Do you have?

That made special?

I designed it? Uh yeah, I presented the image up on well. I ordered it through Amazon. Yeah yeah, uh oh. Williams said, I will need a ride to camp out. My legs are not pretty enough to hitch hike. What about Stacy? I mean, Tracy doesn't Tracy. Tracy can drive you out there, can't she? But so if you're if you're able to get out there, we'll find a way to get you out there.

William so, oh yeah, oh.

Yeah. Hey Santra Piper, I know that name.

Yeah, in Florida. She follows me everywhere I go and I'll love her.

Well, I'm offended because she used to follow me.

I'm just joking because I haven't done a live video in a long time, so that's why some names I've I recognize names, and I just haven't seen.

YouTube names in a while. So it's all good. Yeah mm hmmm, oh man, So yeah, I know I actually thinking. I mean, May is not that far away, and I'm excited for us to get back out there. You know. But like I said, this weekend, I'm looking at the weekend, I'm looking at the weather, and I'm itching to get back out here. I don't care if it's for just overnight or whatever, but I'm watching the weather and the temperatures. Like I said, I'm determined to go out there this weekend.

It's not my.

Yeah, she's a girl from Dunky Donuts, not Christy Kreen. Thank you, Sandra. Sandra said, I have an awesome laugh. Awesome. Well, I'm glad I can bring some joy to some people with my laugh. I always thought I had a goofy sign and laugh, but I laughed the way I laugh anyway, So it's whatever. Thank you. H My company does a lot of work in Virginia, oh, what kind of work do you do? I'm curious. Oh yeah, I love to hear about your What kind of work does your company do?

Yeah, oh yeah, we outs away.

Yeah, well, we do get occasionally, we do get a passam at big giant possum that will come around every once in a while, but most of the time it's the raccoons or the skunks late at night they come around. We have a lot of skunks that come around, but they're slowly starting to diminish in their quantities because Dad sets up us trap in the backyard. We hate the skunks around here. One they stink up the area. Two they will they are hogs when it comes to the cafoo.

But it's mating season right now for the skunks. They need all the protein they can get with that cat food.

Well yeah, well that means, say, well, the temperatures warming up. I'm starting to you know, because the temperas are warming up enough for them to come out and about now, so they're more I see them on the sides of the road because they're being hit left and right, you know. So because when the temperatures become a certain you know, when they get warmer, like they are starting to get now. Uh, yeah, they're more. They're on the move more and more down

Well, thank you.

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Nice. Nice. I'm gonna respond to the question to pop up your YouTube user Dishizzle for Life is asking when I am coming back from Pennsylvania again. I'm actually going to be there the first week in June. The Forest County Bigfoot Festival happening June sixth and seventh and Marionville, Pennsylvania.

I think we're I'm good right now, good talking of making tonight. Definitely say what people about and what experienced a little bit. I've seen a couple of your other podcasts in the past and I found very interesting and stuff. And we try to spread ourselves out and watch several different podcasts, you know, between working schedules.

Yeah, there's a lot out there.

Yeah, we try to limit now.

I try to stay with the ones is more on my mind, that logical, realistic. I can't get out there with all the Outlander stuff. That's not helping the calls when when you do that, right, I agree?

Awesome, Oh absolutely, Nikki, thank you for coming on. I mean, we definitely have to have you on again, as long as you don't mind our craziness. Fun. It was fun for sure.

You could always have a good show. We can always do that.

Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I only try to I'll try to give you guys enough time in advanced you know, because like I said, Nikki, I know you cover a lot of topics and stuff on your podcast, and you know, so I love what you do. Uh, you know, because there's been I mean we've been on podcasts together in the past, and you know we've covered all kinds of different topics. Nothing, right, we come back to certain topics, you know, some things need to be brought back up.

As you know, you know, and.

Yeah, I mean.

Stacks of shows that I've done. I haven't even filed this stuff away yet. And but I've really taken the show, you know, to a different level than when I first started, but ran it still is Bigfoot, you know. So it's hard to come up with new topics and trying to turn things around and think of things in different ways. So matter of fact, that was my show for last

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