KID INK & ASIAH COLLINS - Pizza That Toast!

hopefully you know the basics. Cheese. We have some turkey pepperoni, which I know isn't typical, but we don't eat pork, and some jalapeno peppers and those are pickled pickled, But which is interesting? I mean the sliced ones you get are pickled, like on top of your nachos. Oh okay, j I thought I had to look it's pickled instead

of fresh. Remind you this. This whole purpose is because obviously I can't order a pizza, so the next best this is trying to find whatever ingredients you have at home to try to make that piece of makes sense. So first you wash your hands, then you're gonna dress up your pizza, everyone grabs like, I'll grab one. So when was the last time you guys can remember actually

eating a meal like this? She was mentioned earlier. We still have to eat like this occasionally on the road because on the road, out out there, out the country, sometimes you have to, you know what I'm saying, get just as creative based on what you have available to you. But you find those things and then you mix it up and whip it up. A couple of noodles is one of the you know what I'm saying, still regular things on tour, the ramen any type of noodle work.

Everyone's humbled on sore when you're on a road trip or you're on the tour bus and your kid dry the year in the middle of nowhere, whatever that gas station is that you gotta stop at. Whatever they have is what you've got, unless you know what I'm saying, you stocked up at the grocery store, which is something we learned to do when we would get to cities

that would have the nice grocery store. Like if you're on tour in Europe and you get to you know, somewhere like the UK where you think it might be a lot more familiar imports than maybe Germany. You stock up over there, and then when I get to Germany, hopefully I still got a lot of that stuff left over. A whole plan. I feel like this looks real official it does. I feel like I'm treating it way better than I did when I was younger. Obviously I was

probably a little less. Can we add the llapenos after we cook? Absolutely? Can you can put it on top. I'm in a bake mine in. Will you pass me the little cheese with you being a chef Awesia. Yeah. Do you feel like you had a lot of fun eating while broke? Um? Yes, you know, we did have

fun eating while broke. We got really creative, Like we would go we would take the e BT and go to the Baiata and get you know, a bunch of produced for cheap and like you know, cheap shrimp like the little bay shrimps and imitation crab and make ours to chat for like all day long. You know, when I was a school by the time I was out of school and I was living on my home for real, it was probably a little bit more fast food. So

my fast food go to wasn't McDonald's. I do eat McDonald's from time to time, but it was El Boil Loco and she was I would live off these BRC burritos. There are dollars. I would live the mean and they used to have They don't have them anymore. That's why I don't eat Eloil Local anymore. They don't have the barbecue black beans they used to have, which were like crack. You would get this BRC with barbecue black beads, throw your sausa and cilantro in there for a dollar. I

got a whole burrito. I missed out because I didn't know it was they were living that good at Elpot Local. I was still like getting the burgers and just adding sauces to the to the regular double cheeseburger that didn't come with it, Like yo, can I get extra pickles and big max sauce and maybe whatever was only ten cents? Maybe extra your that you could do it your way and they didn't charge you extra. No, I would just

get all of it and still take stuff off. Let me get to let this on instrumatos, all that stuff just my burger look crazy, and then be like I don't even want that. So you can see the different worman as is in ours right away looks Brian looks beautiful, So I literally copied Brian so like I didn't look like I'm going to put them directly on the rack. Okay, when did you guys realize that you arrived? Like when was that moment where you realized, Okay, I'm no longer

living like this. Today we're gonna eat I guess lobster or whatever your favorite expensive meal would be. M M. I guess in that sense, like when would I have felt like that was? I mean, because you have those small moments that you think you made it, because there's always you think you made it, like this is it, and then something might not have been all the way there. It just wasn't that time. And then timing, you know

what I'm saying, I switched it up. I guess when I felt like there was no maybe turning back or the you know what I'm saying, face was high, that everything was moving in the right direction. Would probably be like my first tour because I got to actually see the money ahead. So like working in the meeting, what I'm saying, sometimes you're just working, you know what I'm saying.

It was points where I was doing. I was probably on my third mixtape, and I wasn't like I was a celebrity system and you know what I'm saying, was occasionally booking a show We're here every couple of months or something like that for something small, just to get the show off and do it for Brandon. But I probably had you know, like three mixtapes in where people

probably thought I made it. Now, I was still at the crib broke section a e B T, living with moms, doing the same thing as everybody else, see what I'm saying, not really living any different, but I still had to keep up a energy and image and lifestyle, so I had to you know what I'm saying. Luckily at that time too, I was getting a lot of I was

making just you know what I'm saying. Connection with a lot of different people was helping sponsor because I wasn't out being able to go shopping and have stuff for music videos and stuff, so it would be people giving me clothes, and like, you know what I'm saying, the shout out back in the day was like young and reckless and villains and all these different people that I just knew at the time who were making clothes giving me all these brand new things to where I was

keeping up, but at the same time I didn't really have I was still going to the crib, you know what I'm saying, with a couple of dollars in my pocket, so you know what I'm saying. Those are somethings when everybody else thought I made it, and I could have felt like I made it in a sense of like in the game musically and branding myself and getting somewhere. But when I saw that first tour and it was like two months and I get how much your show is this? Man? I'm sure you ready? So I get

to just live every day? What do they call it? What do they call that daily allowance? Right right? Were you thinking like I'm gonna save this per dam and the check? At that point it was like, you know then I was living more so living day by day where it was like, yeah, whatever I got today, it

could go to zero because I gotta show tomorrow. That was a moment of feeling like you know what I'm saying, not having that care and feeling like I made it because it was like we had no responsibilities to I mean, we went from going we went from me completely broken and having nothing to look after all this money is pouring in. Do you feel like when you first got the money, where are you guys? Let's go shopping by

the nice car? Really? But I don't think it was you. Yeah, I think it comes as like the beach in the beginning. They knew my name at Sacks. Yes, but I didn't like to run into the story and like not first check the price tag, like if that makes sense. So I wasn't in there like Louis don't care how much it costs. I was still making a decision like this

one's five. You still do that? But that that wasn't like I didn't change in the sense where I was just like blow it, but gradually was still we would blow it in other senses of like what do you want to do? Whatever you want to do. As you're in it, you're not conscious to it can slow down maybe, so then when it slows down, then you have to sit back and go all right, so this is about to come in. How can we make sure that we

don't have to wait until that comes next time? Oh? Yeah, you get to like manage a cash fall better because you could see it ahead of time. You spend looking. It's just natural to spend the money that's on the way ready mentally because you see it's on the way, especially if you didn't have it before, you're like, I worked this hard, might as well. Yeah, I still you know,

it's crazy. I never people always saying that I never treated myself to something that I worked so hard, Like if that makes sense, like you never just gone and did that that you want to do because you felt like because in the first three or four years, I think I just worked world word work. There wasn't a moment where somebody was like, did you should sit down and enjoy it? I didn't. I don't think the first

three years I actually enjoyed having everything. It was still like all right, we still got to go get some more keep. Yeah, it's more worker, It's good. Yeah. One of the biggest challenges I think is momentum. You know, like you try to go into it without having false expectations and then you catch momentum, you know, for like the met spot, for say Smooth Skin Lounge and um, just trying to keep that momentum going because it's still

a new business. So you see so much money flowing in, but you have employees you have overhead, you have rent, you just have all these things. So, you know, just trying to keep pushing towards it being big enough to where you can really feel like, Okay, I did make it, and you don't think when you think about artists, you don't really think. And the more I interview people or the more entertainers I meet. At first, when I used to look at entertainers, you just think of them as

this is the face. You don't realize that they're entrepreneurs and they're they're making all these decisions on a daily basis. It's not just writing a song or producing a record. It's emails look crazy, So times I have to have moments and have someone and also it's like a business partner that I trust and my wife luckily, so it's like I have two business partners because I can trust that she'll understand, you know, what I'm saying certain things

when I'm locked in on the music. Just because even just recently, you know, wrapping up this album Alive, I was locked into the studio and it was so many other music business and things that I was getting emails for that my business partner, which I trust him to make certain decisions. But if it's like might lean a little bit more towards a little some branding or something personal that I might be like, YEO, why did you

do that? I felt like that was corny. This is then that he reached out to my wife and I could I can trust her to get that done because you have to. I can't think about that and do the creative music part and think that I'm going to give this a hundred percent and not look back on it later and be like, dang, I missed that, or

I wanted to take that out. I should have turned that down because I was trying to do that fast so I could answer this question, or just my mind wasn't So, you guys, it's definitely a you have to be a businessman. But you see it the music all the time. When people start getting real big at the business, then the music starts falling back a little bit once you get a little bit two hands on. I mean we can't get we can't get an album out of Rihanna.

I mean you're seeing and you start making big money other places. That's the exactly she's giving like, once you start doing this and it's like she's not made a quarter billion dollars and I didn't have to stress out. I'm busy this, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think she's going to go back to uh she eventually she will. She's busy. I mean you can't. Yeah, you

can't get mad at it. But you can see how you know some people, and you see how some people are you know, can sell millions and millions of records, go diamond and do all these things, but can't handle the business or can't come out with a clothing line. I can't because they don't have that. They're not everyone's not, for real, some people can do it. For this, it's

just different everyone. I wish everyone could run like that because it's hard to keep up with all these different things and you just got to find your flowing your balance. Now I'm curious, and this is going to go to both of you guys. So Asia, you're, you know, entrepreneur behind the scenes mainly correct and then Brian or kidding, you're in front of the scenes. So do you feel like one has it easier than the other, because and this is a serious question, and this is just playing

devil's advocate, not trying to start a fight. Out a topic. I think. I don't think that one is necessarily easier than the other because because I see some of the stuff that you know, they're just here the conversations, some stuff they have to go through. Even with today too, with how big social media is and how important it is to your brand, smooth Skins Instagram pages just as important as my Instagram page as far as keeping it up, making sure that the brand is still just as the

followers and the video content. Like I see her doing just as much video content for her their Instagram as it is for mine, and I'd be like Danny to catch up. He has to teach me how to make my little video. It's I feel like it's definitely nowadays, it's still more of a it's still more of a trade where you still gotta be a cool business just as much as you gotta be a cool entertainer. It

feels more like you guys, iron sharpens iron. There's a little bit of friendly like competitiveness, but not really because you guys share your insider secrets, right, You're like, well, I got this this post and this this is what I did too, So it's almost like on the tech side, you know, techie's kind of share their codes and then they build up. Who do you think has cried the most on the business side, Who do you think have

you actually teared up from business? Business is stressful tears, Yeah, when I was first coming up in the game, because you feel like it's not even tears, you know, sadness, it's tears of like real stress and anger, like you know why this ain't working and why that's not happening the way that I wanted it to happen at the time.

It's more so the time you start getting fed up with time, see, like this isn't doing what I wanted to do, and I've been putting so much work and effort into this, and you start getting stressed out, and then you gotta You know what I'm saying, I thought about that I'm someone who who can easily, when I was younger, easily fight and cry out of anger. So you know what I'm saying, it will naturally, I'll naturally

tear up just out of anger. So if I'm in a fight like when I was younger, don't let the crypt don't let the tears fool you. Yeah, don't let the tears fool you. For sure, and I know, I say, you just took a bite. But the first of all, this is amazing, So now I will I will be so good really yourself. Um, I wanted to say, honest, yeah, when was the last time you cried over your business? And what was it in detail? Mm hmm um, probably

a week ago. But honestly, I'm just very this is like my baby, and this is my first business that is actually like going. I've tried to do other businesses in the past, um, and they didn't work out, you know, and a lot of it was just immaturity, you know, being an experience, and so now it just it gets frustrating as a mom to the pool, having to pull away from being with your kids or being here at your business, you know what I mean. So I grabbed

all the time. I'm always frustrated. And then me and my partner are like brother and sisters, so we go at it and we do. I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate having you both come out and uh feed us this gourmet dish. I've eaten some pretty red dishes on this show, but I was really excited to be able to lay out all these options. Everybody in production was asking what we are making that has

this many ingredients? Do you feel like you've arrived or do you feel like that pivotal point hasn't arrived yet? I feel like there are I feel like I'm always becoming, first of all, like I'm still becoming. You know, I'm working on smooth skin and that's going. But we're still beginning. You know. I still would like to do more branding with cooking. Um, so it changes, like I think I had superficial ones in the beginning, like you know, my

first batons he bought me in Paris. You know, like then you know, you know there's things like you know, when we bought our first house, or I got to be featured in Vogue Pregnant, you know, like I've never let's be clear, I've never signed up with any modeling agency ever, so that for me, know, anything, any work I've done modeling or acting, I was doing myself. I never joined with an agency. So that was still really big for me to have that moment. Yeah, my mom

Vogue dot com. So that was nice, But you know, those things still I just feel like that's not it for me. You know, there's still more to come do you think that's because the bar is high, or is it because is playing Devil's advocate? Are you not taking that moment? And like how Kiddink was saying that he and I think that's what you were saying, that you never really got a chance to take it in, but no one told you to take it in. Keep you know what I'm saying, pushing the bar because if you

look at smooth skin, it's open, it's out. You can show like all these huge milestones. But you're like, well, I still you know, And I get it because I feel like most entrepreneurs feel that way. But I'm wondering, like what the root is. Is it because you're not taking it in in the moment or is it because you keep moving the needle forward? I think from the outside looking in to cut off, I think they definitely

in their business. I've had moments where I've seen them stress out or want to accomplish something, and I've been and I go, but you guys are killing it right now, killing it. It's cool. But I don't you know what I'm saying. It's not a bad I guess you know what I'm saying. Mindset to be in, but it's definitely moments where I'd be like you know what, or a business partner like yo, it's chill out stuff stressing, Like the numbers can be different from yesterday. Do you see

what they looked like all week? Like what I'm saying, you and think about like the times we're in you know what I'm saying, Those type of things that you have to come into play. But when you want just to it to be so big or do more, you know what I'm saying, it's I can't really help that. I'm striving for generational wealth. I think once you feel like that's why I have to worry. Yeah, I don't have to worry. It's one thing kids don't have to worry. And then I could feel like their kids might not

have to worry. Is I guess more of a mom? Look what I did. Yeah, you guys are looking for that sleep money that we don't have to get up and chase it everyday. Money I don't actually yeah, yeah, I still work for mine. I don't know. I'm still working from mine too. I don't know what it is. You know. Well, No, I'm not gonna say that I'm not blessed to have certain situations or you know what I'm saying, the right publishing sit worships where I do have you know what I'm saying, things that come in

that I go, oh forgot about? You know what I'm saying, right things doing things for movies, commercials, whatever the case may be. There are there are things that I have set in stone that will forever collect money. So I am definitely blessed and appreciate that for sure. But you know, and you know I j C no, It's still a level that I would like to accomplish mentally. So yeah,

my bar might be set super high than most. But at the same time, you know, I still won't say that at the end of the day, when it's all over, that I won't feel like I was successful. But right now I still have to not be stagnant with that. I gotta want to push for more or I think it will just go backwards. How many years total have you been in the game prior to everybody knowing who

you are? I know you started as a producer, So I probably started making music for fun when I was fifteen, like, thinking like I could make music for other people, Like I think I knew how to make music and play account was the first time you got paid for the first time I got paid for music was probably like a I think it was like a reproduction for uh, it was a reproduction for Alice Cooper record that Sean

Kingston was redoing for some promo. Like it wasn't like a single or anything, but it was like something that I think was special for Alice Cooper anniversary and he was redoing this song Cameron with the name of the song was I was mad young and then you know probably pay me, like but how did you get it?

Just how did I get it? I think it was more so you know, still when I was sixteen, I was always moving around seeing who the you know what I'm saying, who the new rappers were, always moving my beasts around, always staying just I think in the mix. And it's not it's not that it's not hard, but you know, in l a can know where to be at the right time, or know how to meet certain people or be like yo, listen to this and this and that, or you might have a relative that's like, yo,

here's an opportunity. So I think it was just I can't remember how the opportunity came, but it was just somebody said, hey, you got one of these, and they you know, knew they could get it for me for cheap, so they were like, I might have to pay this guy five thousand. I can pay this guy four dollars or if that was leaping what I got. And he's cool with that. So you know what I'm saying, They got that done and I can't remember who the business was with it. But then after that, you know, that

opens up the doors. So then I meet different people or you know, at the time, because that's us. My mom made it moments. That was my mom made a moment for sure, and then go back to the to the hood, and then it's like, all right, we're back to regular. And then I get the record that I made for Nipsey Bullets. Ain't got no names. And then that you know, he gets the deal off that that blows up another Mama made a moment, made my first check for five thousand dollars. Again, it took three months,

but you can't do nothing about that. So imagine, you know, all right, and that's not anyone from his team's problem. That's the labels, you know what I'm saying, Like I said, labels work, So he was with Sony, I think at the time, and they're not like thinking about me, like, yeah, we gotta make sure we get him the bag I think I had already. They flew me out to New York.

I hung out, I was making all kind of bees, doing this and this and that, and then they got to a point where I was in New York like, yo, man, you get paid because I'm running out of money. So you know, my mom only gave me like two dollars for like two weeks trying to figure out what we're doing here. And then I ended up from that moment leaving New York, going back home and back to regular

lifestyle again. So then like that was another almost made a moment, and then you know what I'm saying, but that opened up the doors for me, you know what I'm saying, going to the studio with Nipsey and then meeting young Bird Hitmaker now and then you know that opened the doors for me me dj ill Will, which opened the doors for me dropping my first mixtape, which then trickled down to where we are now. So I think, you know, it's different moments where I was like I

made it and then it turned around. But then I see how that turned into something else, always becoming. So, now, was there ever a point where you felt like you had to choose between the nine five? Now? I know your mom, so I know she's all about, you know, fight for your dreams and go after what you want. I don't think she has a settlement plan ever for

any of you guys. But was there ever a moment where you thought prior to the four hundred, because I'm sure that was like, That's what I'm doing forever, right? So yeah, So I think my my first like real job that I went out and got was retail. It was easy to go to the mall, to a bunch of applications to who hired you. I worked at the Gap and then I I always knew I wanted to do music, so I always had this mindset like, all right, when you work in nine five, though, make sure it's

something that's not going to hurt your future. You know what I'm saying. When they bring it back up and they're like, yo, why were you doing that though? So you know what I'm saying, Retail with something I was always in a fashion. I got the easy job at the Gap. It wasn't really my vibe as far as you know what I'm saying, just the work that they had us doing, I felt, you know, just like I was just folting T shirts all day and wasn't really selling any clothes or any clothes that I was into.

So then I moved from there and got a job in Northroom because I knew some smarty who worked in North rooms. They hooked me up. And this is all prior to your passion for music. Yeah, well know, I always made music. So it was like when I was fifteen, before I had a job, I always made music. I think my mom, like every not like every boy. The normal l A kid thing from the too is you're gonna do some extra work and do some acting, so

you know, just throw me in to the acting. We get an Asian, they have you do a couple of things here, and you know, and then whatever and then some people making some people don't, I guess, But for me, uh, you know, I did the acting thing for a minute, but then I start getting tattoos when I was sixteen, and then that kind of took away from me trying to be able to do any Disney any vibes that was gonna be like your music has played in Disney movies,

and you know, I see how there were certain things that not for sure I have I don't know something kids movies, kids Disney single yet there, but I think, you know, the there's certain things that I started to realize came from me just doing what I loved and what I had a passion for, and other stuff was just start to come just from being good at you know what I'm saying this, and then they might open up doors for other opportunities for me to get into that.

I've always wanted to go to X games my old life. I got to perform at X games. I always wanted to go. I always wanted to go to a wrestling match. My first wrestling match. I got to perform at WrestleMania. Like these are things that I probably never thought I was ever going to be able to do unless I did certain things or met certain people, or I didn't

think like raps gonna get me in WrestleMania. But if if I was younger, I probably would have been even more into it, like what raps can give me WrestleMania? But I didn't. I didn't know. But when I saw how it all worked out, I was like, Yo, that was pretty cool, Like that was something that happened right, Like it was definitely manifested, and it was something that again I just didn't I wanted to do, but didn't know that that was going to bring me to getting

to that place. So you know, and I have a WrestleMania chair in my house that I didn't have to you know what I'm saying, hustle for on eBay the examply Now before we close out, I'm just curious, since we are on the topic and manifesting came out, what do you think are like three secrets to success? Um going from being broke in your living room around naysayers or or or whomever to where you are at now? What what's consistent the most in your everyday life? Would

you say? And towards the goal of success, there's not a ceiling you have, Like everyone puts some type of expectation of when they need to feel successful by or how much money they have to be to be successful. There's no ceiling. Once you accomplish one, you're going to go onto the next, or if this one fails, you're going to go on to the next. There's no ceiling.

Keep going, keep doing it, even with musicians. Maybe you won't be the next rapper, but there are musicians making a living off of music in hundreds of different fields. You know, Like yeah, that I and I think that the thing that you realize most of course, like speaking things into existence, speaking things out of existence. It's important. Mean, some people can you know, you're definitely always supposed to have those moments where you can vent and get things out,

but you always gotta have that confidence there. And I think you know that confidence is what you see a lot of people strive from where you go, how did that person do that with no talent because they walked in the building. Like when they say, when you're walk in the build, no one's gonna ask you where if you're supposed to be there. If you got the right confidence,

I'm going to steal that. You gotta be that when you walk in the building and be exactly you know what I'm saying, what it is, and not have any I guess you know, insecurities on that behalf and people look at you the exact same where you know, even with smith skin, when i feel like I'm going to like pull my hair out literally and just run away from it all, I get dressed up really nice. When I go on the office the next day. You know, it just makes me feel clothing. It makes me feel like,

I ca baby, I'm here. I could be at home in the home studio, and I can tell that if I was at home, locked in and sweats for a week, that just that one Friday, even if I wasn't going awhere, that I got mad, dressed up through all my chains on and went to the backyard to the studio. The energy is going to be different. It's gonna be a little bit more of feeling myself when I'm in there instead of just working. I think it's a little rap

and more of it's more of an energy. Or you look at it's like, look what I got, Look where It makes sense. I never even thought of that, yea, to be honest, but it does make sense. Like, you know, when you look good, you feel good, and your confidence is that you feel like, hey, I guess I learned that the hard way, and she already had it on point. When you're in the gym. I didn't used to care about what I was wearing in the gym. I would

just go to the gym. But once I started getting matched up, like I was like, are you matching shoes too? And then I would get messed up. I could understand, like I look in the mirror, like we're gonna work out today, Yeah, we work Looking at the shoes is blue. They're gonna see me running And it's a whole different mentality than if you're just going there in the mid feast joint you like, I'm working on my wife beater today, and that is what it is. Well, thank you guys

so much for coming out, especially on your birthday. So today we're gonna close out. I got you a couple of different cake options so we can all gain weight, so you guys can compete in the work original. I don't know if it's vanilla in there, best vanilla chocolate hair. Yeah, yo, man, appreciate you guys for chilling with us. You know what it is eating while broke. Yeah, this amazing piece of toast. And I hope y'all learned something new today. Yes, with

kidding and Assia, we had awesome pizza toast today. Thank you for more eating while broke. From My Heart Radio and The Black Effect, visit the I Heart Radio, O app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows meaning while broken, H